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[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]
AUGUST 3RD, 2026 AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE ANNA MUNICIPAL COMPLEX COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 120 WEST SEVENTH STREET.TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN OPEN SESSION AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT THE SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM AND TURN IT INTO THE CITY STAFF BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS OR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ANNA PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING FOR AUGUST 3RD, 2026.
WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND.
HEAVENLY FATHER, GUIDE US WITH WISDOM AND BLESS OUR DISCUSSIONS AND THE WORK BEFORE US TODAY.
[3. Neighbor Comments.]
ALSO, AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THIS MEETING AGENDA.EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A NEIGHBOR'S INQUIRY, OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.
I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD. MISS SHARP.
BECKY SHARP WILL GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
BECKY SHARP 10282 COUNTY ROAD 288. ANNA. I'VE SPOKEN TO THIS COMMISSION MANY TIMES.
THE BAD NEWS IS I'M HERE AGAIN. THE GOOD NEWS IS I WANT TO FIRST THANK YOU FOR THE EXCELLENT JULY 6TH COMMENTS THIS COMMISSION MADE IN REGARD TO THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, RESULTING IN A SEPTEMBER PUBLIC HEARING WITH CURRENT AND PROPOSED POLICIES COMPARED. MR. KANTNER'S JULY 6TH COMMENT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.
SO I'M STARTING INPUT TONIGHT, AND I ASK YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THE POLICIES.
I'M GOING TO SUGGEST NOT ONLY GOING FORWARD, BUT INCLUDING ITEM FIVE C TRINITY CREEK FLEX CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH YOU CAN PULL AND ASK QUESTIONS. ALL OF YOU WEREN'T HERE THE LAST TIME THAT WAS APPROVED.
HERE ARE THE POLICY SUGGESTIONS. DISCONTINUATION OF TREE WAIVERS.
HEAVY INCREASE OF TREE REMOVAL FINES AND URBAN FOREST PROPOSAL ADOPTION.
DESIGNATED DARK SKIES, LIGHTING AND SOLAR LIGHTING.
NATIVE PLANT REQUIREMENTS. GREEN ROOF CONSIDERATION.
PERMEABLE CONCRETE. SUSTAINABLE COOLER ROOFING MATERIALS.
TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED GUTTERING. ALL WATER CONSERVATIONS WE BADLY NEED SOLAR CANOPIES AND ELEVATED STRUCTURE, PROVIDING SHADED PARKING AND GRID SUPPORT FOR SOLAR PRODUCED ELECTRICITY RESULTS IN LOW UTILITY BILLS FOR THE BUSINESSES AND CAN INCLUDE DRAINAGE SPOUTS, REDIRECTING RAINWATER INTO SYSTEMS FOR
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REUSE, AND THIS MITIGATES THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECTS.BUSINESS SOLAR CANOPIES WILL NOT ONLY SAVE THE BUSINESSES MONEY, BUT PROVIDE A FANTASTIC MARKETING TOOL, WHICH IN TURN COULD RESULT IN HIGHER SALES TAX REVENUE FOR THIS CITY.
I'LL BE PRESENTING RESEARCH AND EXAMPLES OF EXISTING SOLAR CANOPIES.
I HOPE AT EDC THURSDAY NIGHT CONSTRAINTS KEEP YOU FROM RESPONDING TO SPEAKERS.
YOU'RE CAUTIONED THAT YOUR ACTION CHOICES ARE LIMITED, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS ASK QUESTIONS TONIGHT, EVEN IF UNANSWERED. EVEN IF THE QUESTION DOESN'T RESULT IN BETTER DEVELOPMENT, PLEASE PUT QUESTIONS ON RECORD.
I ASK THIS BECAUSE WE ARE AT A CROSSROADS. NOVEMBER.
MAJOR BOND ISSUE. DOWNTOWN DESIGN, BRANDING, ETC..
BETTER AIR QUALITY. WATER CONSERVATION. NECESSARY FOR US ALL.
TRINITY. FLEX METAL BUILDINGS SHOULD PRESERVE TREES.
DO SOLAR CANOPIES AND USE NATIVE PLANNING. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES UPDATE
[4. Director's Report.]
BY MR. KINTNER.COUNCIL. YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKETS THE THE COMPLETE STAFF REPORT THAT GIVES THE BACKGROUND OF THE LAST DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE SINCE YOUR LAST MEETING, AND THOSE THAT ARE COMING UP. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE HAS ON ANY OF THESE OR ANY UPDATES YOU'D LIKE? ALL RIGHT. ALSO, THIS TIME I WANT TO INTRODUCE ONE OF OUR NEWEST PLANNER.
TODAY IS ACTUALLY HER FIRST DAY. ASHLEY SAUCEDA IS OUR NEWEST PLANNER.
AND SHE WILL BE YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE OF HER COMING UP ON ON PROJECTS AS THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO HER.
SO JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE HER. THAT IS ALL UP FOR THE REPORT.
THANK YOU. WELCOME, ASHLEY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS.
[5. Consent Items.]
I'M GOING TO PULL CONSENT ITEM AYE. THE MINUTES NEED TO HAVE CORRECTIONS MADE TO THEM BEFORE THEY'RE APPROVED.DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO PULL ANOTHER ITEM? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR B THROUGH E? OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE B THROUGH E MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'LL SECOND. CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE.
[a. Conduct a Public Hearing/Consider/Discuss/Action on a recommendation regarding an Ordinance amending the Sherley Farms Planned Development.]
AT THE TIME AND PLACE OF ANY PUBLIC HEARING HELD DURING THIS MEETING, ALL PERSONS WHO DESIRE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD IN OPPOSITION TO OR IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE, APPLICATION OR OTHER PROPOSED ITEMS. ITEM A WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER.THE THE QUESTION REGARDING SOME CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES ON ITEM A THAT WAS PULLED SEPARATELY.
WHAT ITEMS WERE ON THERE THAT WE NEEDED TO BE SURE TO CORRECT? ONE OF OUR ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS WAS PRESENT AND HIS NAME IS NOT SHOWING MR. WISE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:43 P.M.. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SHIRLEY FARMS. AND OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. SO JUST A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.
THERE WAS A PRE ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN 2020 FOR THE ANNEXATION AND ZONING CASE IN 2025.
THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT CHANGE ANY OF THE LAND USES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
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IT JUST IS AN AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION, ALLOW SEGMENTATION BY AWARD AS AN APPROVED MASONRY FACADE AND JUST GENERAL CLEANUP OF SOME OF THE TEXT. SO THE FIRST BIG ITEM IS THE AMENITY CENTER.WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ITSELF, THERE WAS A CONFLICT BETWEEN PORTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THE AGREEMENT. THE APPLICANT IS RESTRICTING THEMSELVES TO THE STRICTER OF THE TWO THAT WERE LISTED IN THERE.
THE SECOND PART OF THE REQUEST IS PRIMARILY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CEMENTITIOUS FIBER BOARD.
THERE ARE SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUILDING ARTICULATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD PARTICULARLY WITH OLIVIA CLARK HOLMES. THEY'VE ALREADY PRESENTED ON THEIR WEBSITE, A FEW OF THE OPTIONS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD IN SHIRLEY FARMS. AND BASED ON HOW THE WORDING IS TODAY, 75% OF THE TOTAL HOMES WITHIN THE SHIRLEY FARMS DEVELOPMENT IS RESTRICTED TO ONLY BEING ALLOWED TO USE NO MORE THAN 50% MASONRY FIBER BOARD.
AND THEN 25% OF THOSE MAY BE 100% CEMENTITIOUS FIBER BOARD IF THEY FOLLOW SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
AND ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS WAS A WRAP AROUND PORCH.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT TERMINOLOGY MEANT.
AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE EXAMPLES ON THE SCREEN, NONE OF THOSE PORCHES WRAPS AROUND, BUT IT SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEEDS THE 150 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM THAT WAS REQUIRED. ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO ADD THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS THE FOLKS FROM JAMES HARDIE HAVE APPROACHED ALL THREE OF MY DIRECTORS, CITY TWO CITY MANAGERS.
I'VE EVEN GONE OUT TO A PRESENTATION THAT THEY DID IN FRISCO.
THEY HAVE BEGGED US TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENTS.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE, WE HAD A MASONRY REQUIREMENT OF 80% FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL, AND IT SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED CEMENTITIOUS FIBER IN THAT 80%. AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAVE INCLUDED THAT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, IT IS STILL CONSIDERED A MASONRY PRODUCT.
AND IF YOU HAVE PARTICULAR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, I'LL SEND IT OVER TO CALEB.
BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE CEMENTITIOUS FIBER.
YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO VINYL AND WOOD, IT'S SUPERIOR IN ITS FIRE RESISTANCE, EXTREME DURABILITY AGAINST HAIL THAT WE HAVE HERE IN IMMUNE TO THE WOOD EATING PESTS. AND IT ALLOWS FOR MORE FACADE ELEVATION OPTIONS THAN BRICK CAN GIVE US.
AND THEN ON THE CON SIDE OF IT, IT IS EXTREMELY HIGH MATERIAL AND INSTALLATION COSTS INVOLVED.
AND THEN THE THIRD MAIN CHANGE IS IN REGARDS TO FENCING.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN AS A CHALLENGE THROUGHOUT.
ANNA. AS TO WHEN YOU HAVE A, WHAT'S CALLED A REVERSE CORNER LOT ADJACENT TO A KEY LOT THE CONCERN IS IF SOMEONE HAS THEIR DRIVEWAY, AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, THAT A FENCE WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO SEE AS THEY COME IN AND OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY. AND TO COMBAT THAT, WE HAVE A STRICT RULE THAT IF YOU'RE ON A REVERSE CORNER LOT, THAT BOTH THE SIDE YARD AND THE FRONT YARD HAVE THE SAME SETBACK AND THAT IS APPLIED TO FENCING AS WELL.
AND SO THE CHANGE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. IS TO ALLOW FOR OPEN FENCING.
THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN OUR ORDINANCE FOR FRONT YARDS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE ON THE SCREEN, IT ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THROUGH THE FENCE.
AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO FENCE A LARGER PORTION OF THEIR YARD.
WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES OTHER THAN JUST A HANDFUL OF PHONE CALLS.
AND THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH, I HAVE A FEW FOR THIS ONE. SO LET'S SEE.
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WITH THE AMENITY CENTER TO NOW BE COMPLETED WITHIN 24 MONTHS, WAS THE DEVELOPER FALLING BEHIND OR ON THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE OR IS THIS PROACTIVE, PROACTIVE TIGHTENING FOR THEIR PLAN? THIS WAS IT. IT WAS A COMBINATION OF PROACTIVE ON THE DEVELOPER'S BEHALF.BUT THIS LANGUAGE IS ALREADY EXISTING IN THE DA TODAY.
IT'S NOT CHANGING IT. THE, THE SECTION THAT'S BEING CHANGED IS THE 300TH BUILDING PERMIT IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BUT ALL OF THE TEXT IN GREEN IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PART.
OKAY. IS THERE A PENALTY? IF THEY MISS THE 24 MONTH DEADLINE.
IF I HAD MY COMPUTER I COULD LOOK THAT UP. TYPICALLY IN THESE SITUATIONS, IF THEY DO NOT COMPLETE IT WE WITHHOLD BUILDING PERMITS ISSUING, YOU KNOW, MORE BUILDING PERMITS.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT PART FOR YOU.
AS FAR AS THE MASONRY MASONRY WHAT PROMPTED THIS FOR THE BUILDER STRUGGLING UNDER THE OLD STANDARD? OR ARE THEY WANTING MORE OF A BROADER MATERIAL COST? SO IT'S KIND OF BEEN TWO PARTS THE HOME BUILDERS THAT ARE COMING TO SHIRLEY FARMS. WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LANGUAGE IN PARTICULAR.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WE'VE HAD THE FOLKS FROM JAMES HARDIE WHO HAVE CONSTANTLY COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF WANTING US TO REDUCE THE STRINGENT REGULATIONS THAT WE HAD ON CEMENTITIOUS FIBERBOARD.
I KNOW IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY COUNCIL THAT THERE WAS A STRONG DESIRE TO SEE MASONRY PRODUCT EVERYWHERE, BRICK, STONE, AND A LIMITED AMOUNT OF STUCCO.
JUST BECAUSE OF HOW THE GROUND SETTLES HERE AND THINGS SHIFTING.
BUT CEMENTITIOUS BY REWARD HAS IMPROVED OVER THE LAST 5 TO 10 YEARS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT MORE OF IT.
A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAW IN HERE IS THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY PUT ON THEMSELVES AS THE DEVELOPER.
AND THEY REALIZED WITH SOME OF THE BUILDERS THAT THEY HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY PLACED ON IT DOESN'T FIT THE CATEGORIES OF THE HOME BUILDERS THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO IT IS KIND OF A LITTLE DIFFICULT AS, AS FAR AS HOW THEY WROTE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND SO THIS IS JUST TO HELP CLARIFY THAT AND GIVE A BROADER SCOPE OF WHAT CAN BE USED AND GET THE SAME EFFECT THAT THE CITY WANTS OUT OF THAT PLAN, WHICH KIND OF GOES INTO MY NEXT QUESTION.
SO LOTS LOT TYPES A AND D ARE THE 25% IN E THROUGH H WAS THE 35% OF THE CAPS? WHO'S TRACKING THIS THAT'S GONE AWAY.
I'M SORRY THAT HAS GONE AWAY WITH THIS CHANGE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. A PORTION OF IT IS BEING STRUCK OUT, BUT WE HAVE NEW PLANNING STAFF WHO WILL HELP ME IN TRACKING THIS INFORMATION. THAT IS ONE THING THAT INTERNALLY WE ARE WORKING ON IS THE PLANNING STAFF WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR PERMITTING STAFF. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND HOME BUILDERS TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH HOME BUILDERS YOU KNOW, THE ANTI MONOTONY STANDARDS. AND THAT'S WHERE THIS WILL COME IN IS HAVING PLANNING BE INVOLVED IN TRACKING THAT.
OKAY. IS THERE A WAY THAT LIKE, AS THAT GOES DOWN THE ROAD THAT YOU COULD COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF WATCHED OVER? CERTAINLY. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT. THANK YOU.
IT SAYS THAT THE EXTERIOR FACADE OF A MAIN BUILDING OR STRUCTURE EXCLUDING GLASS WINDOWS AND DOORS SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED OF 75% MASONRY, BRICK, STONE, THE CEMENT FIBER BOARD, OR STUCCO.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE PICTURES THAT YOU SHOWED 100% OF THAT FRONT FACADE WAS.
THE CEMENT, LIKE WHATEVER THAT WORD IS. FIBERBOARD.
YES, FIBERBOARD. LET'S GO WITH THAT. SO ARE WE SAYING 75% OF THE NUMBER OF HOMES CAN HAVE 100% OR
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75% OF THE FACADE. SO THIS IS SAYING THAT IT CAN BE 100%.IT'S SAYING A MINIMUM OF THE FRONT HAS TO BE MASONRY.
SO THE OTHER 25% COULD BE VINYL, WOOD, METAL, OR ANY OTHER PRODUCT THAT'S NOT MASONRY, BUT ALL OF IT COULD BE IT COULD BE 100%, IT COULD BE 100% FIBER BECAUSE THAT'S CONSIDERED MASONRY.
AND SO INSTEAD OF BRICK, THEY WOULD USE FIBER.
BOARD. CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. YES. AND THAT'S WHAT THE CHAIN COULD NOW BE 100% HARDIPLANK OR SOME OTHER MANUFACTURER OF CEMENT IS FIBERBOARD, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO IT COULD BE 100% HARDIPLANK.
THE RESTRICTIONS ON CEMENTITIOUS FIBERBOARD HAS EXISTED.
THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT DOESN'T HAVE SEEM TO HAVE THE RESTRICTION IS A CREEKSIDE IS THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IN THE PAST DIDN'T HAVE QUITE AS RESTRICTIVE 80% MASONRY, MEANING BRICK, STONE OR STUCCO WITH STUCCO ALSO HAVING RESTRICTIONS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT MORE IN DFW.
I THINK WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE, A LOT OF THE REGULATIONS WERE STILL IN PLACE FROM THE 1986 ZONING ORDINANCE, AND THAT MASONRY REQUIREMENT HAD JUST STAYED EXACTLY THE SAME SINCE THEN.
OKAY. THANK YOU. RANDY. YEAH. ON THE THE HARDIE BOARD, YOUR COMPARISON IS TO VINYL AND WOOD, BUT REALLY IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO BRICK.
IT IS TO KEEP THE CALIBER OF THE HOMES UP. VERSUS AN INFERIOR PRODUCT.
AND SO THE QUESTION IS, IS WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY IN MAKING THE CHANGE? I MEAN, CLEARLY THE HARDIE MANUFACTURER IS GOING TO MAKE MORE MONEY.
IF THEY HAVE MORE HOUSES, THEY HAVE MORE ON IT.
WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO US? THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY IS, IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE STURDINESS AND THE PRACTICALITY OF BOTH BRICK OR STONE OR SOME INCHES FIBER BOARD IT ALL IS THE SAME AS FAR AS THE THE OVERALL MAKE OF IT. SO IT WILL GIVE US THE SAME LONG LASTING MATERIALS THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF BRICK AND STONE. YOU CAN GET THAT OUT OF CEMENT FIBER BOARD AS WELL.
THEY'VE IMPROVED SO DRASTICALLY OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.
REALLY EVEN LONGER THAN THAT. IT'S JUST, IT'S A DIFFERENT PRODUCT THAT HASN'T BEEN USED VERY OFTEN IN A LOT OF PLACES, PARTICULARLY HERE IN THIS AREA IS, IS WE'RE SEEING MORE OF IT IN, IN OTHER AREAS BEING USED.
AND AS FAR AS BUILDING CODES AND MATERIALS GOES, IT'S ALL IN THE SAME CATEGORY NOW.
IT'S NOT SEPARATED. SO THERE'S NO OTHER THERE'S NO CITY REQUIREMENT, CITY CODE REQUIREMENT THAT REQUIRES A PERCENTAGE OF A HOME TO BE BRICK OR STONE. NO.
RIGHT. SO STATE PREEMPTED THE CITIES FROM ADOPTING AND OR LOOKING AT MATERIALS.
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN LOOK AT MATERIALS IS IF THERE IS A INCENTIVE, AND THAT IS INCLUDED WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT IN THIS CASE, IF IT'S A PIT, ISN'T IT CONSIDERED AN INCENTIVE? AND IN THAT WE CAN THEN HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MATERIALS.
THAT'S FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S REALLY COME DOWN TO IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT EXISTS.
TYPICALLY BUILDING MATERIALS IS PART OF THAT.
THERE ARE SOME OLDER PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS THE WALMART ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ER WHERE THEY RECEIVE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES, WHERE THEY STILL, WE CAN STILL ENFORCE THE 100% MASONRY REQUIREMENT.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THE FALLS, CREEKSIDE, AVERY POINT, ALL OF THOSE, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO THE MASONRY LIMITS ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE STATE LAW.
SO THOSE FROM WALMART UP TO THE E.R., WE CAN ENFORCE 100% MASONRY.
BUT NOW WE'RE SAYING MASONRY IS HARDIPLANK. RIGHT.
WELL, THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE SHIRLEY FARMS. BUT WHAT CALEB WAS SAYING BEFORE IS THAT THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL THEY DEFINE CEMENTITIOUS FIBERBOARD AS
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MASONRY, THAT IT'S CONSIDERED THE SAME PRODUCT.SO WAS THERE AN INITIATIVE FOR SHIRLEY FARMS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, OR IS THIS GOING TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO WANT TO MATCH? WELL, ACTUALLY, IT'S INTERESTING. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE FOLKS AT HARDY BOARD.
SHIRLEY FARMS IS ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT WE STILL HAVE THIS RULE.
THERE AREN'T VERY MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT HAVE THE RESTRICTION ON CEMENTITIOUS FIBERBOARD.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, I THINK ANACAPRI MAY BE THE ONLY OTHER ONE.
A LOT OF THESE REGULATIONS YOU'LL SEE IS THAT THE DEVELOPERS PUT SOME OF THESE THINGS ON THEMSELVES AS THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, MORE SO THAN WAS THE CITY FORCING THEM TO DO.
AND AN HOA, I ASSUME TOO. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FIBERBOARD? I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU SAID IT'S COMPARABLE TO BRICK MASONRY, RIGHT.
WHICH TYPICALLY LASTS UP TO 100 YEARS. BUT THIS IS LIKE A 30 TO 50 YEAR WITH A LOT MORE MAINTENANCE.
RIGHT? IT STILL HAS TO BE PAINTED, RIGHT. AND THAT'S EVERY 5 TO 15 YEARS DEPENDING ON THE PRODUCT.
YES. OKAY. SO SPECIFICALLY FOR THE HARDIE BOARD, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? NO, NO, IT JUST DEPENDS. HARDIE BOARD IS A BRAND.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CEMENT FIBERBOARD. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO HARD TO SAY IS BECAUSE IT'S IT'S IT'S WE DON'T WANT TO SAY A SPECIFIC PRODUCT, BUT YEAH, CEMENT FIBERBOARD. IT DEPENDS ON THE PRODUCT ITSELF.
THERE'S SOME THAT ARE NEVER NEED PAINTED. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, IT'S INGRAINED IN IT LIKE BRICK, THE COLOR OF BRICK LIKE CONCRETE STAINED CONCRETE.
OKAY. BUT WE'RE NOT SPECIFYING WHICH BRAND THEY HAVE TO USE.
WE'RE NOT. YEAH. IT'S NOT BY BRAND. IT'S NOT BY IT'S JUST CEMENT FIBERBOARD.
AND THAT, THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT THEY USE, SOME REQUIRE PAINTING, SOME DO NOT.
RIGHT. THE LIFESPAN THOUGH IS STILL HALF THAN IT IS A BRICK.
OKAY. WELL, I THINK MAYBE EVERYBODY ELSE IS THINKING THE WAY I.
FROM WHAT I'D SEEN, I EXPECTED SHIRLEY FARMS TO BE HIGHER END.
AND I'M NOT SAYING HARDIPLANK OR CEMENT FIBERBOARD IS NOT A GOOD PRODUCT.
IT JUST SURPRISES ME THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE SO MUCH OF IT POTENTIALLY IN SHIRLEY FARMS. I HAD A QUESTION ON THE FENCE CHANGE. ARE THEY REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE SETBACK ALONG WITH THE CHANGE IN THE FENCING.
SO THE WORDING THAT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT IS THAT IF IT IS A SOLID FENCING, THEN THEY WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO THE 30IN IN HEIGHT WHICH IT CURRENTLY IS TODAY.
THE WAY THAT A TYPICAL INTERIOR LOT OR A CORNER, A TWO REGULAR CORNER LOTS ARE BACK TO BACK.
THEY'RE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE SETBACK ON THE HOMES THEMSELVES.
NO, NO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? DO THEY WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JUSTIN CRAIG HERE REPRESENTING THE TELUS GROUP.
MY ADDRESS IS 883 BLOOMFIELD ROAD, VALLEY VIEW, TEXAS.
TO KIND OF ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. BUT AS WAS NOTED PREVIOUSLY, WE DID COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND IN OUR DAY, WE DID INCLUDE A MUCH HIGHER STANDARD, MUCH MORE ROBUST REQUIREMENT.
AND THAT OUR LARGE LOTS HAVE TO BE 75% MASONRY AND THE SMALLER SIZE IS 50% MASONRY.
AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WITH THESE CHANGES, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND CONSTRUCT 100% CEMENTITIOUS ON ALL THESE PRODUCTS. IT REALLY BOILED DOWN TO HOW IT WAS IMPLEMENTED FOR TWO SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.
AND THE WAY THAT THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WAS LAID OUT, YOU COULD DO 100% ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT THEN YOU WERE LIMITED TO 50% ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH WAS KIND OF AN ARBITRARY WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, WHERE THE DESIGN REQUIREMENT WAS DRIVING THE DESIGN RATHER THAN THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION BEING A HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION AND DRIVING
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THAT. AND SO REALLY WHAT HAPPENED WAS AS WE STARTED WORKING WITH OUR BUILDER PARTNERS AND PUTTING TOGETHER OUR OWN BUILDER DESIGN GUIDELINES.AND WE ARE 100% COMMITTED TO COMING OUT OF THE GROUND WITH A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE PROUD OF AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN OUR IT'S INCLUDED IN THIS PACKAGE, BUT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT APPROVAL PROCESS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
HOW DOES THIS AFFECT PRICING FOR THE HOMES. IS THIS GOING TO INCREASE THE PRICE OF THE HOMES.
IT WILL PROVIDE MORE VARIED ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.
AND SO WE HAD A HIGHER 75% MASONRY REQUIREMENT ON THE LARGE LOTS.
AND THEN THE SMALLER LOTS HAD A HAD A 50%. AND SO THAT'S INTENDED, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE A, YOU KNOW, SEGMENTATION ON THE PRICING TO APPEAL TO DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, BUDGETS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOR THIS ITEM.
MR. BENNETT. MR. BENNETT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE COMMISSION.
SURE. HI, MY NAME IS LARRY BENNETT AND I LIVE ON FM 2862.
I'M THE ONLY NEIGHBOR NEXT TO TELUS THAT JOINS PROPERTY.
JUST FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION. ORIGINALLY, WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN FOR MASONRY IN THE CITY OF ANNA, IT WAS 50% ON ANY ONE ELEVATION AT 70% OVERALL.
WELL, THAT'S DONE DURING PLAN REVIEW. SO WHEN IT'S WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH AND THEY'RE SETTING LOBS AND SETBACKS, THEY CAN STAMP 50% ON ANY ELEVATION IT'S REQUIRED AT THAT POINT BEFORE THE PERMITS EVEN ISSUED.
AND I THINK OUR WE ALL UNDERSTOOD IT WAS GOING TO BE IN CONFORMANCE OF THE 5070 REQUIREMENT.
AND HARDIE BOARD'S NOT A PERFECT PRODUCT. IF YOU CUT IT IN HALF AND STICK IT IN A BUCKET OF WATER, IT'LL SWELL OVER TIME. AND IT DOES NEED PAINT.
AND THESE ARE TWO STOREY PROPERTIES. AND WHO'S GOING TO CLIMB UP THERE AND PAINT THEM.
SO I MEAN, I WISH THEM NOTHING BUT SUCCESS, AND I HOPE IT TURNS OUT TO BE A REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
SEEING HOW I GOT TO LOOK AT IT ALL THE TIME, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO START OUT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME AND BEING HERE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR APPLICANT? SO I'LL MAKE A COMMENT. I THINK IT IT GETS DOWN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO BUY.
AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO BUY A HOUSE THAT'S 100% HARDIPLANK, THEN THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT, I GUESS. SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:06 P.M..
WITHOUT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM SIX A? YEAH, THIS ONE'S TOUGH BECAUSE LIKE WE YOU POINTED OUT, LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO LOWER THE STANDARD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND WHAT WE WANT THE CITY TO BE AND WHAT WE WANT THE, THE SUBDIVISION TO BE WITH IT BEING SUCH A BIG SUBDIVISION OVER HERE.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF GET LOOK, THINGS HAVE COME A LONG WAY WITH THE, THE FIBER BOARD AND, BUT ESTHETICALLY, LIKE, HOW IS IT GOING TO LOOK COMPARED TO BRICK? SO I FEEL LIKE BRICKS ARE A NICER LOOK. BUT LIKE YOU POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO PEOPLE WANT TO BUY?
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YEAH, THIS, THIS ONE'S HARD FOR ME. SO. I THINK I MIGHT, I MIGHT MOTION TO TABLE THIS AND DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH ON IT. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM SIX. A DO I HAVE A SECOND I SECOND.SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE ITEM 8AM6A I'M SORRY.
OKAY. AND JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, WE WILL TABLE THAT TO OUR NEXT MEETING, CORRECT? YES. TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING. DO YOU NEED US OR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION TO YOU? YEAH. IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF ON THIS, I'D APPRECIATE THAT.
GET WITH THE DEVELOPER TO PROVIDE THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. COMMISSIONERS.
THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO SIX B CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.
[b. Conduct a Public Hearing/Consider/Discuss/Action on a recommendation regarding an Ordinance related to amendments to the Anna 2050 Comprehensive Plan.]
CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTIONS ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE AMENDMENTS RELATED TO AMENDMENTS TO THE ANNA 2050 COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:09 P.M.. SO THIS ITEM IS FOR AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO I WANTED TO GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY OF HOW ANNA HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST 26 YEARS.
OR NOT 26 YEARS. SORRY. BUT THE PREVIOUS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2010 WHEN ANNA HAD A POPULATION OF JUST OVER 8000. THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A ANNA, 2050 WAS ADOPTED IN 2021 WHEN WE WERE AT ABOUT 2000.
AND OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE UPDATED THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN THREE TIMES, AND WE HAVE REPEALED AND REPLACED THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. AND IN 2024, WE DID THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND PLACE TYPE UPDATE.
WE DO EXPECT FOR THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO BE SCHEDULED ON AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.
SO WITH THIS ITEM, AS WE HAVE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL OUR HOUSING REPORT AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN AROUND THE CITY FOR PARTICULARLY MULTIFAMILY IT HAS COME TO A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO LOOK AT MAKING SURE THAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS REFLECTING HOW WE WANT TO SEE DEVELOPMENT IN ANNA.
BECAUSE THERE IS THE DOWNTOWN PLACE TYPE WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO AMEND THE PLACE TYPE FOR DOWNTOWN TO SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN RATHER THAN OUTLINING THE USES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE AND GUIDING PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN INSTEAD.
AND THEN EITHER REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS AS A PRIMARY USE TYPE WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN THE DOWNTOWN, THE REGIONAL CORRIDOR AND THE URBAN LIVING.
OR ALTERNATIVELY, WE COULD REMOVE THE LAND USES FROM ALL OF THE PLACE TYPES AND LEAVE THE LAND USES TO ZONING RATHER THAN WITHIN THE PLACE TYPES. ADDITIONALLY, YOU COULD TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING WHEN WE WILL HAVE THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN READY FOR YOU TO REVIEW. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH, I GOT SOME AGAIN. DOES REMOVING THE ALL LAND USE FROM EVERY PLACE TYPE MAKE THIS PLAN LESS USEFUL AS A CHECK ON ANY USE OR NOT? MULTIFAMILY. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? YEAH. SO JUST REMOVING ALL LAND USES FROM EVERY PLACE TYPE THE WORD PLACE TYPE, MAKE THE PLAN LESS USEFUL.
OR IS IT MORE SO MULTIFAMILY? COULD I ADD CLARIFICATION TO THAT? MAYBE. ARE WE SUGGESTING THAT YOU REMOVE THE PLACE TYPE FROM JUST THE DOWNTOWN PLACE TYPE OR ALL PLACE TYPES IN THE MASTER PLAN. YEAH. SO MORE SPECIFICALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO DOWNTOWN, REMOVING THE SECTION ABOUT THE LAND USES,
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BECAUSE THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS MORE SPECIFIC.IT'S A SMALL AREA PLAN OF DOWNTOWN. THEREFORE IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO LIST THE USES IN THAT PLAN RATHER THAN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THE CHANGE WOULD JUST BE TO THE DOWNTOWN PLACE TYPE, NOT ALL PLACE TYPES.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON. LIKE DO YOU HAVE THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE, THE ONE OF THE PLACE TYPES AS AN EXAMPLE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE IS IN EACH ONE OF THE PLACE TYPES, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL FAMILIAR IN YOUR BOOKS, IT HAS THE FOR EXAMPLE, REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER AND IT HAS THE CHARACTER AND INTENT OF WHAT THAT AREA IS SUPPOSED TO BE OR TO DEVELOP OUT AS.
AND THE, THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN, THE GENERAL PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT SETS A GUIDE FOR WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE AREAS.
SO YOU SEE THIS EXAMPLE IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, EVERYTHING THE CHARACTER INTENT OF THAT AREA TO BE.
WE HAVE LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT AMENDING THOSE OUT IF THEY INCLUDE A, A PLACE, A SPECIFIC TYPE OF USE THAT'S IN THERE. AND SO THOSE WOULD BE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT TO FOR EXAMPLE.
IF IT SAID IF IT HAS IN THERE THE TOWNHOMES, DUPLEXES, CONDOMINIUMS AND APARTMENTS.
SOME OF THESE ARE REPETITIVE IN EACH OF THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS.
AND WHAT WAS THE DIRECTION WAS WHEN WE FIRST PRESENTED THE HOUSING STUDY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL, AND WE SAW WHERE WE WERE WITH OUR NUMBERS, THE DIRECTION THAT CAME TO STAFF WAS, IS THAT THE COUNCIL WAS RECEIVING FROM THE PUBLIC WAS, IS WE WANTED TO PUMP THE BRAKES, IF YOU WOULD, ON APARTMENTS AND MULTIFAMILY RENTAL IN GENERAL COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE OVERALL NUMBERS THAT WE'RE HAVING IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ALL THE SERVICES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE FOR THIS TYPE OF HOUSING. AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO BEFORE WE CAN MAKE ZONING AMENDMENTS IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FIRST. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
IS IS DO WE WANT TO WOULD YOU RATHER US REMOVE THE REFERENCES TO THE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS? IN THIS SECTION? JUST REMOVE THAT FROM THAT SECTION OR REMOVE THE LAND USE TYPES THAT ARE LISTED IN THIS, WHICH WOULD BE THE LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS THERE.
REMOVE THOSE SECTIONS I BELIEVE IS WHAT THE THE REQUEST IS BEFORE YOU IS, IS JUST ON THE DOWNTOWN.
NO, THIS WOULD BE IN EACH ZONING DISTRICT THAT HAS MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS OR CONDOMINIUMS LISTED, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION WITH THE HOUSING STUDY IS THAT WE WANT EXTRA ATTENTION PUT ON.
NOW, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT A DEVELOPER CANNOT COME IN AND REQUEST AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO AMEND THAT AND ALLOW THE CHANGE OF CHARACTER INTENT OF THAT, THAT AREA OR LAND USE TO ALLOW BACK APARTMENTS OR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THERE. SO WOULD MULTIFAMILY ENTITLEMENTS BE GRANDFATHERED IN? OH, YES. EVERYTHING THAT'S ENTITLED IS ENTITLED.
SO THERE'S THAT IN ORDER TO CHANGE THOSE, THOSE TAKE INDEPENDENT ACTIONS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL IF THEY WERE TO PURSUE REZONING OF THOSE. AND RIGHT NOW ALL THOSE THAT ARE ENTITLED THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THOSE ARE ALWAYS WILL BE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT COULD COME FROM POTENTIALLY MODIFYING THOSE.
WOULD THERE BE ANY RISKS IF WE HELD ON? TABLED THIS TO THE NINTH OF ANYBODY COMING IN? LIKE, WOULD THIS HOLD ANYTHING UP? NO, THERE'S THERE'S NO HOLD UP ON THIS.
IT'S JUST JUST WITH EVERYTHING. ANYONE. OUR DEADLINE FOR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING IS THIS WEEK.
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SO SO IF ANYONE CAME IN AND HAD AN APPLICATION PREPARED, THEN THEY WOULD FALL UNDER THE CURRENT REGULATIONS THAT ARE THERE.OKAY. SO AS FAR AS WE KNOW, AT THIS POINT, THERE IS NO NO DESIRE FOR ANY OF THOSE CHANGES.
NOT ONLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IN THE AREA IN GENERAL.
SO ONE MORE QUESTION. IN THE HOUSING REPORT, IT SAID IT OPENED WITH A STATISTIC.
84% OF ANNA'S COMMUNITY COMMUTERS TRAVEL OUT OF THE CITY FOR WORK EVERY DAY.
AND THAT'S KIND OF PRESENTED AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR REVISITING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT IS THAT THE DIRECT LINK? LIKE, HOW DOES REMOVING MULTIFAMILY ADDRESS THAT? LIKE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? SO IN THE OPENING OF THE HOUSING REPORT SAYS 84% OF ANNA'S COMMUTERS TRAVEL OUT OF THE CITY FOR WORK EVERY DAY.
THAT'S PRESENTED AS PART OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR REVISITING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THE DIRECT LINK BETWEEN RESIDENTS COMMUTE ELSEWHERE FOR JOBS AND REDUCE THE REFERENCE TO MULTIFAMILY HOUSING ISN'T SPELLED OUT.
SO I'M CONFUSED WHAT THE CORRELATION IS WITH THAT.
IS THAT IN THE REPORTS? I MEAN, I, I SEE THAT IN THE, THE SECOND PAGE OF THE BUILDING REPORT.
ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE REPORT, THE STAFF REPORT STAFF PRESENTED IN THERE? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT PAGE OF THE STAFF REPORT.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT THAT THE 84% REALLY, REALLY REALISTICALLY TELLS US AS A COMMUNITY IS, IS 84% OF THE COMMUNITY COMMUTES OUT OF THE CITY.
AND SO I BELIEVE THIS, WE HAVE A VERY SMALL PERCENT THAT ARE WITHIN THE AREA THAT COMMUTES.
SO OVERALL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEMAND AND NEED FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND RENTAL HOUSING, WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE COMMUTING AT THAT POINT, THE QUESTION IS, IS WHY DO WE OR WHY DID WE ALLOW SO MUCH MULTIFAMILY TO COME IN KNOWING THAT WE'RE KIND OF A BEDROOM COMMUNITY WITH THAT HIGH OF A POPULATION OF WORKERS COMMUTING OUT? AND SO THERE WAS NO CORRELATION OR ANYTHING DONE DURING THAT TIME FRAME OF WHEN ALL OF THIS MULTIFAMILY CAME INTO THE CITY OF. OF HOW MANY WERE ACTUALLY COMMUTING VERSUS WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE DO NEED A MIX OF HOUSING THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE A GOOD, STRONG COMMUNITY, YOU NEED A MIX OF HOUSING FROM PRICE RANGES FOR OWNER OCCUPIED TO RENTAL PROPERTIES FROM FOR ALL PRICE RANGES TO, TO HELP FEEL, FEEL THE MARKET THAT IS THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, AND I, I'M NOT SURE IF THE OTHER REFERENCE AS FAR AS IN THE STAFF REPORT TO THE JUSTIFICATION WITH THE 84%. I MEAN, I CAN ALWAYS EMAIL YOU GOT EMAIL YOU OR SOMETHING AND SHOW YOU THE.
YEAH. PARAGRAPH. NO WORRIES. WE WHEN I READ IT, IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
AND SO I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE CORRELATION OF WHAT THAT HAD TO DO WITH ANYTHING.
YES I AM. I WAS LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT TRYING TO FIND THAT THAT STATEMENT ON THAT.
SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY.
AND IT SAYS, AND EITHER WE REMOVE REFERENCES TO MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS. I GET THAT, OR WE REMOVE ALL LAND USES FROM ALL PLACE TYPES.
SO WE WOULD BE REMOVING THAT IN THE C ONE, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT.
FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS IS WE WOULD BE REMOVING ALL OF THAT. IS THAT THE SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE URBAN LIVING AREA HAS PRIMARY LAND USES AS TOWNHOMES, DUPLEXES, CONDOMINIUMS, APARTMENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL, OFFICES, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE IS WHAT WAS LISTED ON THERE.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ZONING, ALL OF EACH OF THE LAND USE TYPES THAT ARE IN,
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IN HERE. SO WE STARTED OFF TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.THAT KIND OF GOES INTO DETAIL THAT THAT WE'VE ADOPTED AND WE'VE ADOPTED DOWNTOWN ZONING FOR THAT.
BUT WE HAVE A SECTION THAT GOES INTO DETAIL ON THAT AND WE'RE SAYING, TAKE THAT PORTION OUT AND REFERENCE GO DIRECTLY TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN SPECIFIC THAT BREAKS IT DOWN EXACTLY HOW YOU GUYS HAVE ADOPTED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THAT AND LOOKING AT ANY OF THESE OTHER PLACE TYPES THAT HAVE LISTED APARTMENTS, DUPLEXES, CONDOMINIUMS, TOWNHOMES THAT FALL INTO THAT SAME CATEGORY. BASED ON WHAT THE THE COUNCIL HAVE REQUESTED US TO DO BASED ON THE HOUSING REPORT. SO IS IT AS SIMPLE AS JUST. INSTEAD OF HAVING THE DOWNTOWN PLACE TYPE REFERRED TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND FORGET EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE GOT ON THIS PAGE.
YEAH, I AGREE TO DO THAT WITH THIS COMMISSION ALONE JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO ME.
SO TAKING THE LAND TYPE LAND USE TYPES OUT OF ALL THE PLACE TYPES I'M OPPOSED TO.
OKAY. AND I THINK I HEAR THAT I'M NOT PUTTING WORDS IN MY I THINK I HEAR THAT HERE.
PERFECT. I DON'T SEE I DON'T PERSONALLY SEE AN ISSUE WITH JUST SAYING INSTEAD OF A DOWNTOWN PLACE TYPE, WE GO TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS MORE SPECIFIC FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA? CORRECT. SO THERE'S NO AND EITHER IT'S JUST REFER THE DOWNTOWN PLACE TYPE TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
WELL, THE OTHER PART PORTION OF THAT IS DO WE WANT TO REMOVE THE REFERENCES IN THESE OTHER PLACE TYPES TO THE MULTIFAMILY AND APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS? SO I HAVE A GOOD EXAMPLE. I CAN SEE ON THIS PROPERTY THE ENTRANCE TO ANNA TOWNE SQUARE, WHICH WE KNOW IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL WITH MULTIFAMILY IS IDENTIFIED AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND URBAN LIVING.
JUST UNDER WHERE THE MOUSE IS. THAT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY FOR SALE.
CURRENTLY BY RIGHT THOUGH, IT'S ZONED WELL. SO YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS.
BUT, BUT IT'S NOT ENTITLED TODAY TO DO MULTIFAMILY.
IT'S CURRENTLY SINGLE FAMILY, LARGE LOT. OKAY.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO THEY WOULD COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO REZONE THIS, BUT IT'S IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO YOU SHOULD APPROVE IT. YES. OKAY. I'M SO SORRY THAT THAT MAKES SENSE.
THEN I AM OKAY WITH REMOVING REFERENCES TO MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS. THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. OKAY. AND THAT THAT'S HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS CLARIFY WHAT ALL PLACE TYPES.
YEAH. FROM ALL OF THOSE PLACE TYPES THAT, THAT HAVE THAT LISTED IN THERE.
AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL, IF IT MAKES YOU MORE COMFORTABLE TO DO THAT, WE, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN MAKE ALL THE CHANGES AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU ON THE NINTH. SO WE CAN KIND OF COMBINE ITEM ONE WITH A AND TWO BY TABLING IT TO THE NINTH. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO CLARIFY IT.
YES. FOR THE NIGHT. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS ITEM AND HOLD.
HOLD IT TO THE SEPTEMBER 9TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. AND STAFF WILL PREPARE BASED ON THE REMOVAL OF OF THOSE SPECIFIC TIMES TYPES. OKAY. AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK FOR YOU.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY LONGMEYER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.
THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED.
MOTION CARRIES 100% TO COMMISSIONERS. HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS? ANY FUTURE ITEMS WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
[7. Future Agenda Items.]
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE CURRENT OCCUPANCY RATE ON THE EXISTING APARTMENTS IS IN TOWN? WE DO NOT. EACH OF THE APARTMENTS WE WOULD HAVE TO GO AND FIND THAT OUT.A FEW OF THE APARTMENTS JUST OPENED UP. AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR OCCUPANCY RATES ARE, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND THAT OUT, BUT WE COULD SEE HOW MANY WE COULD FIND OUT FOR YOU FOR THE NEXT MEETING THOUGH.
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IT'S A CURIOSITY QUESTION SO YOU CAN FIND IT.GREAT. IF NOT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERS? DO YOU HAVE A CURIOSITY QUESTION AS WELL? I KNOW THAT TECHNICALLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, ALL HOMES THAT ARE LEASED ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY. IS THAT CORRECT? OH. ALL LEASES.
YES, YES. OKAY. IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT OVERSEES THAT OR.
YES. AND BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES I KNOW IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE PEOPLE ARE JUST LEASING THEIR HOMES, BUT THERE'S NO LIKE FOLLOW UP WITH THE HOA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHICH I KNOW IS A SEPARATE ISSUE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF WHO BASICALLY IS LIKE, OH, THIS HOME JUST WENT UP FOR LEASE.
SO NOW THE CITY IS ON IT. THAT'S IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES NOW MANAGES THAT.
WE HAVE CURRENTLY OVER, I BELIEVE, 2700 REGISTERED RENTAL UNITS INSIDE CITY LIMITS.
AND HOW OFTEN IS THAT UPDATED? THEY HAVE TO REGISTER EVERY YEAR.
SO THERE'S A $300 FEE. YES. YEAH. I JUST DIDN'T WE HAVE ONE QUESTION.
THE MINUTES WERE NOT OFFICIALLY APPROVED. DO WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH.
NO, THEY THEY WANTED TO MAKE US HAVE THEY HAD CORRECTIONS FOR US TO MAKE.
AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? MEETING'S ADJOURNED. THANK YOU EVERYONE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.