[00:00:02] THANK YOU. [1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.] GOOD EVENING. THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANNA WILL MEET TUESDAY ON APRIL 14, 2026 AT 6 P.M. IN THE ANNA MUNICIPAL COMPLEX COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED AT 120 WEST 7TH STREET TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN OPEN SESSION AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT THE OPINION SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM AND TURN IT INTO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS 6.09 P.M. FOR THE RECORD, WE DO HAVE A FORUM. THE ENTIRE COUNCIL IS PRESENT. I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILMEMBER CARVER IF HE WILL DO OUR INVOCATION AND PLEDGES. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING. IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN A PRAYER. LORD, WE COME TO YOU, AGAIN, JUST GRATEFUL TO BE HERE IN THE CITY OF INDIANA. I PRAY THAT TONIGHT'S BUSINESS BE PLEASING TO YOU. GIVE US WISDOM AS WE HEAR ALL OF THE INPUT. BE WITH OUR FAMILIES THAT ARE GIVING UP OF ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS AS WE CELEBRATE ALL OF THEM TODAY. TO HELP MAKE THIS A BETTER CITY. I PRAY THAT ALL OF OUR EFFORTS BE BLESSED. CONTINUE TO WATCH OVER US, OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF US. ALSO BE WITH OUR NATION AS WE'RE PREPARING TO CELEBRATE OUR ANNIVERSARY SOON. I ASK THAT YOU GUIDE OUR POLITICAL LEADERS WITH THE OTHER COUNTRIES AND INTERNALLY TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR US AS A PEOPLE. IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT WILL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, [3. Neighbor Comments.] NEIGHBOR COMMENTS. AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM ON THIS MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. ALSO AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT IN THE MEETING AGENDA. EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A CITIZEN'S INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY. WE HAVE EVERYTHING OVER THERE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER HURDEN, AND SHE'LL READ OFF SOME UPCOMING THINGS OF INTEREST FOR YOU GUYS. FOR THE SPRING LITTER CLEANUP THIS WEEK, APRIL 13TH THROUGH THE 17TH, YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN KEEP ANNA BEAUTIFUL CLEANUP AT YOUR OWN PACE. ALL SUPPLIES NEEDED CAN BE PICKED UP AT THE ANNA COMMUNITY LIBRARY DURING STAFFED HOURS. THE DOWNTOWN AND REDEVELOPMENT WORKSHOPS FOR EDC THIS WEEK, APRIL 13TH THROUGH THE 16TH AT THE ANNA COMMUNITY LIBRARY MULTIPURPOSE ROOM. TUESDAY, APRIL 14TH, WE HAVE OPEN STUDIO FROM 5 TO WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15TH, ANOTHER OPEN STUDIO 5 TO 7. AND THURSDAY, APRIL 16TH IS A PUBLIC PRESENTATION FROM 6 TO 7.30. THE THIRD ANNUAL MULTICULTURAL EVENT IS FRIDAY, APRIL 17TH FROM 5 TO 7.30 AT ANNA HIGH SCHOOL. EARTH DAY CELEBRATION IS SATURDAY, APRIL 25TH, 10 A.M. TO 1 P.M. AT THE ANNA MUNICIPAL PLAZA. HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE DROP-OFF EVENT IS SATURDAY, APRIL 25TH, 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M. AT THE ANNA MUNICIPAL COMPLEX. AND WE HAVE THE DRUG TAKE-BACK EVENT SATURDAY, APRIL 25TH, 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M. AT THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX ENTRANCE. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND MAKE EVERYONE AWARE THAT APRIL IS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE SURVIVORS AND THE ONGOING NEED FOR AWARENESS, PREVENTION, AND SUPPORT. I ALSO ATTENDED THE TURNING POINTS FOURTH ANNUAL CELEBRATION ON SATURDAY, WHICH IS A LOCAL NONPROFIT SUPPORTING SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE WITH THE REST OF OUR PROCLAMATIONS. IT CAME IN A LITTLE BIT LATE, SO I'M GOING TO READ THAT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME. CITY OF ANAHEIM, TEXAS PROCLAMATION, CULLEN MCKINNEY DAY, APRIL 18, 2026, WHEREAS CULLEN MCKINNEY WAS BORN ON APRIL 17, 1766. AND WHEREAS HE WAS LEGENDARY NAMESAKE OF COLLIN COUNTY AND THE COUNTY SEAT, MCKINNEY, AND WHEREAS HE WAS ONE OF FIVE MEN TASKED WITH DRAFTING THE TEXAS DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND A DRAFTER OF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, AND WHEREAS HE WAS NOT ONLY THE LAST SIGNER OF THE TEXAS DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, HE WAS ALSO THE OLDEST SIGNER, AND HE WAS... WITH THE QUILL AND INKWELL USED BY ALL SIGNERS. [00:05:01] AND WHEREAS IN 1846 HE SETTLED IN ANNA, THIS BECAME HIS PERMANENT RESIDENCE. AND WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE NEIGHBORS OF ANNA, TEXAS RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE REAL AND LEGENDARY MAN HE WAS. AND WHEREAS 2026 MARKS THE 260TH BIRTHDAY OF COLIN MCKINNEY, AND THEREFORE BY THE VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANNA, ON BEHALF OF THE NA CITY COUNCIL AND ALL NEIGHBORS HEREOF, I DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 18TH, 2026 AS... COLIN MCKINNEY DAY. WITNESSED THIS DAY OF 14TH OF APRIL, 2026, AND CALLED TO MY SEAL AS A FIXED PETE CAIN MAYOR. WHERE TO PUT EVERYTHING? ALL RIGHT. [4. Presentations.] NEXT UP, I HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING POLICE CHIEF DEAN HABEL. I SEE YOU OVER THERE. HONORING THE RETIREMENT OF POLICE CHIEF DEAN HABEL, WHEREAS DEAN HABEL HAS FAITHFULLY SERVED THE CITY OF ANNA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR OVER FIVE YEARS, DEMONSTRATING EXCEPTIONAL DEDICATION, PROFESSIONALISM, AND INTEGRITY, AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT THEIR TENURE, HE HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ANNA POLICE DEPARTMENT, MOST NOTABLY LEADING THE DEPARTMENT TO ACCREDITATION THROUGH THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, WHILE ALSO EXPANDING STAFFING AND SPECIALIZED UNITS, STRENGTHENING LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, ADVANCING TECHNOLOGY AND OPERATIONAL CAPABILITIES. FOSTERING REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS, ENHANCING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND PROMOTING OFFICER WELLNESS INITIATIVES, LEAVING A LASTING LEGACY THAT WILL BENEFIT COLLEAGUES AND THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME. AND WHEREAS DEAN HABEL HAS BEEN A SOURCE OF INSPIRATION, MENTORSHIP, AND FRIENDSHIP TO THOSE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK ALONGSIDE HIM, AND WHEREAS THE COMMITMENT, COMPASSION, AND LEADERSHIP OF DEAN HABEL HAS ENRICHED THE LIVES OF MANY AND STRENGTHENED THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF ANNA POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOW, THEREFORE, I, PETE KANE, MAYOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF ANNA, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND COMMEND DEAN HABEL FOR HIS OUTSTANDING SERVICE AND EXTEND HEARTFELT CONGRATULATIONS ON HIS RETIREMENT. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT WE WISH DEAN HABEL A FUTURE FILLED WITH HEALTH, HAPPINESS, AND THE FULFILLMENT OF LONG-CHERISHED DREAMS. THANK YOU, CHIEF, VERY, VERY MUCH. I'LL SAY IT OUT LOUD WHILE THE MAYOR IS MAKING HIS WAY BACK UP. CHIEF, I JUST PERSONALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I MEAN I'VE BEEN UP HERE LONGEST THROUGH ALL SEVEN OF US AND I'VE SEEN WHAT YOU'VE DONE FROM THE START. AND I APPRECIATE IT. THE CITY IS MUCH SAFER BECAUSE OF YOU, AND THAT DEPARTMENT IS IN GOOD HANDS BECAUSE OF YOU. AND LEAVE IT, AND I JUST APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP I'VE GOT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING BOARDS AND COMMISSION SERVICE. WHEREAS THE STRENGTH OF OUR CITY, THE STABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE PROMISE OF OUR FUTURE DEPEND LARGELY ON THE DEDICATION OF CITIZENS WHO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AND TALENTS TO SERVE ON VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND WHEREAS THESE DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS PROVIDED VALUABLE INSIGHTS, EXPERTISE, AND LEADERSHIP ON CRUCIAL ISSUES, INCLUDING URBAN PLANNING, PUBLIC SAFETY, PARKS AND RECREATION, CULTURAL AFFAIRS, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND WHEREAS THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD, EXCUSE ME, ENGAGEMENT AND INCLUSION ADVISORY COMMISSION, PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAVE DEMONSTRATED OUTSTANDING DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT, DONATING COUNTLESS HOURS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF ANNA, AND WHEREAS 35 INDIVIDUALS HAVE SERVED THIS COMMUNITY THROUGH THEIR DILIGENT SERVICE, WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. NOW, THEREFORE, I, PETE KANE, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANNA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 14TH AS CITY OF ANNA BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPRECIATION DAY. AND I ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING AND THANKING THESE INDIVIDUALS FOR THEIR EXEMPLARY SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND WITNESS WHEREOF, I HAVE HEREUNTO SET MY HAND TO THIS 14TH DAY OF APRIL 2026 AND CALL THIS SEAL TO BE AFFIXED. PETE CAIN, MAYOR. CARRIE, AM I GIVING THIS TO ANYONE? NO. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A PICTURE, MAYOR, IN COUNCIL WITH THE ONES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE? THAT'D BE GREAT. YOU GUYS ALL RIGHT WITH THAT? YEAH. [00:11:20] ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK, WHICH IS APRIL 19TH TO APRIL 25TH. WHEREAS NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK IS A TIME FOR RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING THE COUNTLESS HOURS OF SERVICE AND DEDICATION THAT VOLUNTEERS CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS VOLUNTEERS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN STRENGTHENING OUR NATION BY ADDRESSING CRITICAL NEEDS, ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL, AND PROMOTING A SENSE OF CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY, AND WHEREAS THE... ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT OF CITIZENS IN ANA IS NEEDED TODAY MORE THAN EVER TO RENEW OUR BELIEF THAT SOCIETAL PROBLEMS CAN BE SOLVED AND STRENGTHENED TO STRENGTHEN OUR SENSE OF COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS IT IS FITTING FOR ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN IN THE CELEBRATION OF OUR RICH VOLUNTEER HERITAGE AND RECOGNIZE THE DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS AND VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS THAT CONTRIBUTE IMMEASURABLY TO OUR COMMUNITY. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF ANA DOES HEREBY DECLARE THE WEEK OF APRIL 19TH TO THE 25TH AS NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK IN THE CITY OF ANA. AND URGE OUR FELLOW CITIZENS TO OBSERVE THIS WEEK BY RECOGNIZING THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MADE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR LIVES. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I HAVE HERE AND TO SET MY HAND TO THIS DAY, 14TH OF APRIL, 2026, AND CALL THIS TO BE AFFIXED. PETE CAIN, MAYOR. ARE THERE VOLUNTEERS HERE? ALL RIGHT. NOW, ANNA ISD MULTICULTURAL NIGHT, APRIL 17TH, WHEREAS ON MAY 7TH, 2024, ANNA ISD HOSTED THE INAUGURAL MULTICULTURAL NIGHT AT ANNA HIGH SCHOOL IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF ANNA, AND WHEREAS THE EVENT'S CONTINUED SUCCESS HAS BEEN THE RESULT OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ANNA ISD STAFF LED BY FIRST GRADE BILINGUAL TEACHER AT ROSEMONT SHIRLEY ELEMENTARY, ANAYELI ADAME, SORRY. WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FEDERAL PROGRAMS BILINGUAL ESL, LINDSAY JOHNSON, ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE ESL DEPARTMENT STAFF, AND THE DUAL LANGUAGE TEAM AT ROSAMOND SHIRLEY ELEMENTARY. AND WHEREAS THE EVENT'S MISSION IS TO CELEBRATE THE BEAUTY OF THE DIVERSE AND VIBRANT CULTURES THAT MAKE UP ANNA'S COMMUNITY, FOSTER CULTURAL APPRECIATION AND ENCOURAGE CROSS-CULTURAL COMMUNICATION AND UNDERSTANDING WHILE PROVIDING A PLATFORM FOR ATTENDEES TO SAMPLE FOODS, TRADITIONS, AND CUSTOMS FROM AROUND THE WORLD, ALL WITHIN THE FAMILIAR SURROUNDINGS OF OUR CITY. AND WHEREAS THE EVENT FEATURES FOOD VENDORS, LIVE PERFORMANCES, A CULTURAL FASHION SHOW, AND A VARIETY OF INTERACTIVE CULTURAL EXPERIENCES AND DISPLAYS REPRESENTING COUNTRIES FROM AROUND THE WORLD, AND WHEREAS THE THIRD ANNUAL MULTICULTURAL NIGHT WILL TAKE PLACE ON FRIDAY, APRIL 17TH, FROM 5 TO 7.30 P.M. AT ANNA HIGH SCHOOL. NOW, THEREFORE, I, PETE KANE, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANNA, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM APRIL 17TH AS MULTICULTURAL DAY FOR THE CITY OF ANNA. I ENCOURAGE ALL NEIGHBORS TO CELEBRATE BY ATTENDING THE MULTICULTURAL NIGHT EVENT. IN WITNESS THERETO, I HAVE SET HERE UNTO MY HAND TO THIS 14TH DAY OF 2026 AND CALLED THIS SEAL TO BE AFFIXED, PETE CAIN, MAYOR. WHERE AM I? ARE YOU ALL OVER THERE? LET'S COME UP HERE. [5. Work Session.] [00:15:43] VERY GOOD. THAT'LL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS WORK SESSION. ITEM A IS SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT UP FOR THE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT DOING. WE DO NOT HAVE A SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S A SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION THAT'S UNDERSERVED, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CHANGE THAT. SO I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ANYTHING YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SAY. WHAT WOULD THE DUTIES OF THIS COMMITTEE BE? I THINK IT'S JUST FOR THEM TO GET TOGETHER AND THEN MAYBE QUARTERLY COME IN AND TELL THE COUNCIL WHAT CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE COMMUNITIES, WHAT KIND OF HELP DO THEY NEED, WHAT CAN THEY DO TO HELP US, THAT TYPE OF THING. SO THIS COMMITTEE, HOW WILL THEY IDENTIFY THE SENIORS? IS IT 55 AND UP, 65 AND UP? WHAT IS THE AGE DEMOGRAPHIC? I DON'T HAVE THAT ALL YET. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TO THE COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO DO. IF YOU HAD IDEAS, IF YOU WANT TO PICK A NUMBER. I'M OPEN. JEFF OR MARK MAY HAVE TO WE HAVE SENIOR ACTIVITIES FOR OUR PARKS AND REC, RIGHT? AND IT'S 55 AND UP. YEAH, 50 AND UP. SO MAYBE FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD DO WOULD BE, HEY, WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK ON THESE ACTIVITIES? SHOULD WE ADD SOME OF THEM? SHOULD WE ADD THIS? I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WELL, ONE TELEPHONE MEETING, ONE IN-PERSON MEETING. AND I'VE HAD THINGS COME UP, LIKE THE SENIOR OLYMPICS. DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT IS? I HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS, SO I'M JUST NOW GETTING EDUCATED. A BRIDGE IS AN OLYMPIC ACTIVITY, BY THE WAY. YES. RIGHT? THAT'S WHO I LEARNED IT FROM, RIGHT THERE. WHERE? RIGHT HERE. MISS CAROLYN RIGHT THERE. SHE EDUCATED ME THE OTHER DAY, SO I APPRECIATE HER BRINGING THIS UP. AND, YEAH, I'M WIDE OPEN ON THIS. I'M REALLY WANTING TO HEAR WHAT THE COUNCIL THINKS ABOUT IT, WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD THINK WE COULD DO, WHAT WE MIGHT DO. INSTEAD OF CALLING THE COMMITTEE, COULD IT BE LIKE SO WE CAN WELCOME? ALL SENIORS JUST SAYING WE HAVE A ROUNDTABLE AND THEN WHOEVER SHOWS UP, THEY SHOW UP. I'M OPEN TO ANYTHING, ABSOLUTELY. MAKE HER HAPPY. THERE YOU GO. I CAN TELL YOU IN PREVIOUS WHEN WE LOOKED AT TRANSPORTATION AND ALL THAT, THIS WILL GIVE US A FORMAL WAY TO ENGAGE THIS COUNCIL BEFORE WE TRY TO DO EMAIL SURVEYS. INDIVIDUALS IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE TRYING TO DO EMAIL SURVEYS AND IT'S HARD TO GET THE KIND OF TRACTION YOU NEED WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO REACH A COMMUNITY AS BIG AS WE ARE. RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP AS WE FIGURE IT OUT. WHETHER IT'S A ROUND TABLE OR A COMMITTEE, I LIKE THE SOUND OF IT. I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO DIE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MAKE IT FORMAL ENOUGH TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WELL, MAYBE THE FIRST COUPLE NEED TO BE LIKE A ROUND TABLE AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE CAN FORM A COMMITTEE. OR A SECOND COMMITTEE TYPE DEAL. BUT BEFORE I FORGET, MY BRAIN IS LIKE CRANKING OVER HERE. RHONDA, WHEN WE DO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND YOU ALL MAY AGREE, IF WE DO THE FIRST ONE, WE HAVE MR. TUCKER SITTING OVER THERE, MAYBE SOME KIND OF TRANSPORTATION TO MAKE SURE WE REACH EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED, IF THEY NEED IT. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND THEN ALSO WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE HARD TO SAY IT THIS WAY, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA GROUPS THAT ARE SENIORS. WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO GET THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN SETTING THAT UP. IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO OFFICIALLY FROM THE CITY AS A COMMITTEE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY THAT WOULD PERTAIN TO IT IS AT LEAST AWARE THAT IT'S HAPPENING. BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE AREN'T ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THEY'RE STILL DOING TELEPHONE. WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER AS A COMMITTEE VERSUS A BOARD? I MEAN, AS FAR AS BINDING A BOARD, IF WE CREATE A BOARD, IT WOULD BE LIKE HAVING ANOTHER P&Z, BUT A COMMITTEE, I THINK, IS MORE FUNCTIONAL. WELL, THAT IS ANOTHER THING I HAD IN MIND. I MEAN, COMMITTEE, BOARD, COMMISSION, THEY ALL CARRY DIFFERENT AUTHORITY AND DIFFERENT TASKS. FOR THIS, I BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE A BETTER FIT. YEAH. AND MAYBE MR. TUCKER CAN HELP US, BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE HAVING A SILVER'S COYOTE FICTION START [00:20:01] WITH THE ISD. THERE'S THE INFORMATION. THERE'S SOME INFORMATION RIGHT BACK THERE. SO WE COULD GET A LOT OF PARTICIPANTS IN THIS COMMITTEE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM AS WELL. CAN WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE, STEPHANIE? CAN WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE? YEAH, SO MAYBE WE GET TOGETHER WITH THAT BUNCH AND WORK IN TANDEM, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY GOT IT ORGANIZED, AND CLEARLY I DON'T. GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE, RIGHT? THERE YOU GO. WE'RE RUNNING THE SAME GUTTER. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DEFINITELY HAVE A CONSENSUS UP HERE. WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND SEE IF WE CAN'T PUT THIS THING TOGETHER. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S REAL VALUE IN THIS, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE COMPONENTS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SOME OF OUR MULTIFAMILY, TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE, YOU KNOW, 55-PLUS ACTIVE COMMUNITIES. THIS ALSO ALLOWS US TO CREATE A DIRECT FEEDBACK LOOP BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A MULTIGENERATIONAL COMMUNITY, WHERE SENIORS, MIDDLE-AGED PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE, EVERYONE CAN LIVE AND THRIVE, THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE A SAY. AND THIS IS A GOOD WAY FOR US TO GET SOME INPUT ON SOME OF THESE SENIOR TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL. MAYBE THERE'S THINGS WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT. MAYBE THERE'S THINGS THAT THEY PREFER IN SOME OF THAT SERVICE. AND IT GIVES US SOME OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GET SOME CLARITY. SO I LOVE THIS. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ON THIS, GUYS. RHONDA, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO GET IT GOING? SO I'M SEEING A LOT OF HEAD SHAKING. I'D LIKE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO PROVIDE STAFF THE DIRECTION TO COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE TO BE DETERMINED BY YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO FORM THIS COMMITTEE AND OUR OUTREACH PROCESS AND OUR WHOLE PLAN OF ACTION, UNLESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE ACTION ITEM TO DO. IT CAN BE STAFF-LED OR IT CAN BE COUNCIL-LED. I THINK I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE IT TO BE STAFF-LED. I THINK THEY HAVE A BETTER... BETTER WAY TO APPROACH IT, I'M SURE. AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T GET IT TO MAYBE THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE. DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME, DO YOU THINK? IT DOES. I APPRECIATE THAT. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, DO WE HAVE THE STAFF CAPACITY TO DO THIS? WE'RE GETTING THERE. GOOD TO KNOW. MARK'S SAYING YES. WE HAVE TWO RIGHT THERE. A LOT OF YOUNG LADIES UP FRONT WANT TO BE A PART OF IT. AWESOME. OKAY. IS THAT GOOD, RHONDA? THANK YOU, COUNSEL. THANK YOU. [6. Consent Items.] OKAY, THAT'LL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM SIX, CONSENT ITEMS. THESE ITEMS CONSIST OF NON-CONTROVERSIAL OR HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW. ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUEST PRIOR TO A MOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. DO I HAVE A MOTION OR IS THERE ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL OUT OF THIS? IF NO ONE'S GOING TO PULL ANYTHING, I WILL MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS A AND B. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [7. Items For Individual Consideration and Public Hearings.] THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM 7, ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IN PUBLIC HEARINGS. AT THE TIME AND PLACE OF ANY PUBLIC HEARING HELD DURING THIS MEETING, ALL PERSONS WHO DESIRE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR. OF THE ORDINANCE, APPLICATION, OR OTHER PROPOSED ITEM, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE 7A, CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THOMPSON GROVE, DA 25-0003, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICE, CALEB KINTNER. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKETS THE COMPLETE STAFF REPORT REGARDING THIS REQUEST. THIS IS FAMILIAR, I BELIEVE, WITH ALL OF YOU. AS IT HAS COME BEFORE YOU BEFORE IN REGARDS TO THIS, I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER IN DETAIL, BUT LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING IS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU'VE HAD TO REVIEW. THIS IS A PREVIOUS, BASED ON PREVIOUS DIRECTION THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US, STAFF FROM THE COUNCIL, REGARDING THE CITY'S PID POLICY. STAFF IS UNABLE TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF THE PRE-ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH INCLUDES THE REQUEST FOR PID FUNDING, WHICH IS NOT WITHIN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATIONS, AND THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO A DATE CERTAIN, APPROVE THIS ITEM AS SUBMITTED, APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS, OR DENY THIS ITEM AS SUBMITTED. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE, AND THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL, DO YOU WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR SEE THE PRESENTATION? I'D LIKE TO SEE THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. [00:25:08] I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANTS. SO YOU GOT TO GIVE ME A TRIAL RUN. MAKE SURE I RUN IT FIRST. YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. CAN I GO BACK? NO, KEEP GOING FORWARD, I BELIEVE. THERE WE GO. PERFECT. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. KELBY GOLDEN, ONYX DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. I'M ALSO HERE WITH MY BUSINESS PARTNER, BRITTON CHURCH. IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS SINCE WE'VE GOT TO CATCH UP AND TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. I'M EXCITED TO KIND OF DIG INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS. SO AGAIN, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF ON THE, I THINK Y'ALL KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, RIGHT, AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, BUT JUST KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE I SET THE STAGE ON WHERE THE PROJECT IS AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE'RE AT. SO THIS IS 18 ACRES RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF TAYLOR AND FERGUSON. AS YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP HERE, I KIND OF WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME JUST TO REORIENT KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. SO YOU SEE FERGUSON, AND I'M SORRY THE MAP'S KIND OF CUT OFF. YOU SEE FERGUSON IS JUST ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT. WHITE STREET'S JUST NORTH. TAYLOR'S JUST SOUTH. GENERALLY, TO OUR WEST IS OCALA ESTATES. THAT'S A PD THAT WAS SF 6.0. TO OUR WEST IS I'M SORRY, TO OUR EAST IS LAKEVIEW ESTATES. THAT WAS A PD THAT'S SF 6.0, 7.2. SO THOSE ARE LIKE 60S AND 70-FOOT LOTS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PICTURE, THERE'S ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT TOO. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK YOU ALL ARE AWARE, YOU CAN SEE THE DOTTED LINE POTENTIALLY ON THE MAP. THIS IS THIS PROJECT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, SO THIS IS CURRENTLY IN THE ETJ. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT WAS LAST SUMMER. THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE WERE REALLY POINTING, THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO US. THE FIRST THING IS, OBVIOUSLY A PROJECT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, THERE'S SOME REASONS WHERE YOU HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO NEGOTIATE, RIGHT? WHETHER WE DO A COUNTY DEAL OR A CITY DEAL, BUT WE ALWAYS WANTED TO COME TO THE, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE CITY FIRST. THE SECOND THING IS THE CITY HAS THE CCN HERE, SO THE UTILITIES TO SERVE IS, SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE ON THESE ETJ DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. IT'S LIKE, WE HAVE TO GO. FIND AN ALTERNATE UTILITY PROVIDER. AND THEN THIRD IS JUST IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING USES, AND I KNOW THAT WE PROPOSED A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS TO STAFF IN THE SUMMER OF WHAT WOULD BE 2025, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT, GIVEN THE SURROUNDING USES, SHOULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND SO IF YOU REMEMBER FROM LAST TIME, I MEAN, I'VE LITERALLY WATCHED COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. AND TOOK A LIST AND I SAID, I WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER AND PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD AND LET'S SEE WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE COUNCIL. A FEW OF THOSE THINGS ARE THERE WAS CONTROL, RIGHT? THE CITY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE ETJ, THAT THEY CAN NOT HAVE A DEAL WHERE IT'S A MUD, WHERE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A PARTNER IN THE PROJECT, RIGHT? THE SECOND THING IS THE QUALITY OF THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT. I SAID THIS IN MY WORKSHOP SESSION IN NOVEMBER. CURRENTLY, THERE'S BEEN 5,900 PERMITS PULLED IN THE CITY OF ANNA SINCE 2015. Y'ALL ARE FEELING THAT. WE SEE IT. IT'S A LOT OF HOMES SINCE 2015. THE MEDIAN INCOME VALUE OF THOSE HOMES IS $420,000. FOR ME, THAT'S A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY. AND I HEARD IT FROM Y'ALL TOO. IT'S LIKE, WHY CAN'T WE GO BUILD SOMETHING A STEP NICER? IT HELPS ME DIFFERENTIATE FROM THE PAC. OF MORE OF THIS KIND OF ENTRY-LEVEL TO STARTER HOME PRODUCT. AND IT HELPS ME KIND OF COME TO YOU GUYS WITH, LIKE, LET'S HIT A DIFFERENT MARK HERE, COMPETE IN A DIFFERENT MARKET. AND SO WE MET WITH STAFF IN THE SUMMER OF LAST YEAR, AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE GAME PLAN. SINCE THEN, WE TOOK A FEW STEPS FORWARD TO KIND OF GET, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON MAKING SURE WE WERE INCORPORATING. SMALL THINGS LIKE ELEVATIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF, WE HAD A LOT OF HELPFUL FEEDBACK ON WHAT ELEVATIONS YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE AND WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE. AND SO THAT TOOK US A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME, BUT WE ENDED UP GOING TO, IF YOU REMEMBER, WORKSHOP IN OCTOBER 2025. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A PRETTY HELPFUL WORKSHOP. GOT SOME GREAT FEEDBACK FROM EVERYBODY. AND THEN WE ENDED UP GOING TO P&Z IN NOVEMBER. THAT P&Z WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. AGAIN, AS KAYLA MENTIONED, THEY DON'T HAVE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE THE PIN. WE'RE TAKING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THROUGH AND WORKING THROUGH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, THE ELEVATIONS, THAT SORT OF THING. BUT WE GOT GREAT FEEDBACK. WE HAD TWO STAFF COMMENTS [00:30:02] AT THAT P&Z. FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THAT WAS THAT THEY WANTED US TO DEFINE OUR HOME ELEVATIONS AND HAVE HOME REPETITION. SO I'LL GET BACK TO THOSE STAFF COMMENTS AND P&Z, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF OUR PLAYBOOK. AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED, GIVEN THE STRUCTURE WITH THE CURRENT PID POLICY, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRYING TO PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD TO BECOME A BIG... A GOOD PARTNER FOR THE CITY AND WORK OUT A DEAL THAT MAKES SENSE FOR EVERYBODY. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. THE LAST TIME WE TALKED WAS P&V IN NOVEMBER, AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE DEAL AGAIN AND TELL YOU GUYS WHAT WE'VE CHANGED. SO THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL. AGAIN, NONE OF THIS CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL DEAL. SO, AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS 18 ACRES. IT'LL BE BETWEEN 75 AND 76 LOTS. THEY'RE 50 BY 120. WE WOULD CREATE A PD THAT WOULD FOLLOW THE BASE ZONING ORDINANCE, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS OF SF 6.0. IN EXCHANGE, AS I MENTIONED, THAT THIS PROJECT IS IN THE ETJ, WE WOULD REQUEST THE CITY CONSENT TO A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND THE PROJECT WOULD BE ACCESSED OFF OF FERGUSON ROAD, WHICH WE WOULD DEDICATE OUR PORTION ALONG THE PROJECT. THE BASIS OF THE PD THAT WE PRESENTED TO P&Z WAS, AGAIN, BASE ZONING OF SF6.0. WE REQUESTED A WAIVER ON THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. I THINK YOU ALL ASKED GREAT QUESTIONS ON THAT LAST TIME. THAT WAS TO ALLOW, IF WE NEEDED IT, TO DO A FEW SINGLE-STORY HOMES TO MEET A DIFFERENT SIZE OF THE MARKET. THAT'S REALLY THE DEPTH OF THAT REQUIREMENT. WE REQUESTED TO REMOVE THE ADDITIONAL 10-FOOT LOT DEPTH ALONG FERGUSON. WE HAVE ONE CUL-DE-SAC THAT DIDN'T MEET THE MINIMUM CUL-DE-SAC LENGTH. AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE ONLY HAD 70% WELL, BASICALLY, OUR PD JUST SAID, HERE'S OUR ELEVATIONS, WE'LL AGREE TO DO 70% MASONRY, AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE NICE HOMES. WE PUT IN THE PD WHAT OUR AVERAGE STARTING PRICE WOULD BE, WHICH AT THAT TIME, IT STILL IS OUR GOAL IS $580,000 AVERAGE STARTING PRICE. BUT, UM... THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS PRESENTED TO PD WAS, WHAT TO P&Z WAS IN 70% MASONRY. AND THEN THE LAST THING WAS CITY OF ANNA HAS A LANDSCAPE CHECKLIST THAT IS VERY HARD TO FOLLOW ON A SITE THIS SMALL. BASICALLY, IN MY OPINION, IT REQUIRES YOU TO BUILD AN AMENITY. I THINK WE HAD HELPFUL DISCUSSIONS THE LAST TIME. WELL, WE DIDN'T THINK AMENITY IS A GOOD OPTION HERE. THE MAINTENANCE COST, THE CARRY COST FOR THE HOA DUES FOR 76 LOTS. PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE. SO HERE IS, THAT WAS THE BASE DEAL THAT WE PRESENTED TO P&Z AND THE WORKSHOP, AGAIN, LATE LAST YEAR. AND I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH WITH STAFF ON ADDITIONS IN TOP OF WHAT WAS APPROVED AT P&Z. THE FIRST STAFF COMMENT WE HAD FROM P&Z WAS THAT THEY WANTED US TO DEFINE THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, THE HOME TYPES, THE HOME ELEVATION TYPES. I PRESENTED MY HOME ELEVATIONS, AND WE'LL GET TO THEM HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WAS HOW DO WE DEFINE THESE TERMS SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THESE HOME ELEVATIONS ARE AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO GET BUILT, RIGHT? AND SO WE TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT, AND CALEB WAS SUPER HELPFUL IN HELPING US NEGOTIATE AND FIGURE THAT OUT. WE DEFINED CRAFTSMAN STYLE, TRANSITIONAL, TEXT AND VERNACULAR, AND MODERN FARMHOUSES LIKE A HOME TYPE, RIGHT? IT IS NOT PERFECT, RIGHT? BUT IT IS AS CLOSE AS WE COULD TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING AND THE PD KIND OF CORRESPONDS WITH SOME OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME VARIABILITY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SEMI-CUSTOM BUYER, BUT THAT THE QUALITY WOULD MATCH WHAT WE'RE SHOWING. WE ALSO AGREED THAT EACH ELEVATION IS REQUIRED TO HAVE CERTAIN UNIQUE FEATURES. I'M GOING TO GET TO THAT WHEN I GET TO THE ELEVATION SLIDE, BUT BASICALLY THIS WAS THE COMMENT OF, LIKE, LET'S MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONOTONY THAT YOU CAN LOOK AND FEEL DRIVING THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION THAT THIS IS A SEMI-CUSTOM HIGH-END DEVELOPMENT, NOT SOMETHING THAT THERE'S THREE HOMES THAT WERE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT. WE REQUESTED THE INCREASE ON, OR WE PUT IN THERE THAT ALL ROOF PITCHES ARE REQUIRED TO BE 812TH'S ROOF PITCH. SOME OF THESE ELEVATIONS HAVE HIGHER THAN THAT. I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THAT AT THE WORKSHOP. I THINK JUST THE AESTHETIC FEEL WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET FROM A 612 TO AN 812 IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND SO HAVING THAT PRIMARY ROOF PITCH BE A LITTLE BIT STEEPER I THINK HELPS A LOT ON THE CURB APPEAL OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. INCREASED FACADE, ARTICULATION REQUIREMENTS. BASICALLY, THIS IS INTERESTING, BUT WHEN YOU THINK [00:35:01] ABOUT A HOME, THERE'S A WAY TO BUILD A HOME WHERE THERE'S ONLY ONE DISTINCT. ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENT. LIKE THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S JUST A FLAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO VERTICAL INTEGRATION THAT DOESN'T POP OUT OR ANYTHING. SO WE, WHAT YOU DON'T WANT IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN A STREET, IT JUST, THEY ALL LOOK IN LINE AND THERE'S NO VARIATION. AND SO EVEN, EVEN IF THE BRICK COLOR CHANGES OR THERE'S STONE, THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS DON'T POP OUT. AND SO WE WANT THERE TO BE VARIATIONS IN THE VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL PLANE OF EACH HOME. WE WOULD DO THAT ANYWAYS, IT'S JUST PUTTING IT IN THE WRITING. WE ALSO ADDED ADDITIONAL GARAGE DOOR ENHANCEMENTS. I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT LATER. STAFF HAD REQUESTED THAT WE ADD A REPETITION STANDARD, WHICH I THINK WAS A GREAT COMMENT. CURRENTLY CITY OF ANNA REQUIRES THAT EVERY HOME CANNOT BE REPEATED EVERY THIRD HOME. IT REQUIRES THREE HOMES BEFORE YOU CAN REPEAT THE SAME ELEVATION. WE CHANGED THAT TO FIVE. WE HAVE, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER CARVER, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ELSE, THAT ONE OF THE COMMENTS I GOT AT WORKSHOP WAS, IS THERE A WAY TO DO A PARK? LIKE, YOU NEED SOMETHING HERE. AND IT'S REALLY HARD ON AN 18-ACRE SITE, BUT WE HAVE ADDED A POCKET PARK. WE FEEL, WE'VE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT. I MEAN, THE SIZE OF THIS POCKET PARK IS... IS SIZABLE. WE WON'T HAVE THE GREEN SPACE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN A NORMAL PARK, NORMAL CITY PARK, BUT WE'LL HAVE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, THE SHADE STRUCTURES, YOU KNOW, AND FOR A LITTLE ENCLAVE DEAL, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FIT REALLY NICE FOR THE RESIDENTS. WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 76 CANOPY TREES. SO WE BASICALLY DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT ARE BEING REQUIRED TO BE PLANTED ON EACH HOME. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING. NOT ONLY THAT, WE WE STATE THAT THE SIZE OF THE TREE MUST BE SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN WHAT CITY OF ANNA REQUIRES. WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 12 THREE-GALLON SHRUBS INTO THE FRONT YARD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT KIND OF A SEASONAL COLOR OR LIVING SCREEN ON THE FRONT OF THE ELEVATIONS. AND THEN THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY A BIG TOPIC WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST WORK SESSION. WE PUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'LL HAVE A RENTAL CAP. WE'LL HAVE A RENTAL CAP ON THE PROJECT AND THAT NO MORE THAN 3% OF THE UNITS CAN BE RENTED AT ANY TIME, AND THEY CAN'T BE OWNED BY ANY MORE THAN ONE OWNER. IF WE CAN GO BACK AND DISCUSS THAT, IF YOU REMEMBER, I KIND OF OUTLINED WHY I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK I'VE TOLD I'VE DEVELOPED ABOUT 9,000 LOTS ACROSS THE METROPLEX, AND THIS IS KIND OF THE FOOLPROOF METHOD TO MAKING SURE THAT YOU PROTECT. THE INTEGRITY OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT STILL GIVING SOME DISCRETION TO HOMEOWNERS WHEN LICE HAPPENS. AND SO I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS, AND I HEARD YOUR COMMENTS AND JUST WANT TO SAY WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO INCORPORATE EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD. SO THIS IS THE SCREENING PLAN. THIS IS PRETTY SIMILAR, ALMOST IDENTICAL TO WHAT I'VE SHOWN YOU ALL BEFORE. THE SCREENING WALL WILL BE ALONG FERGUSON. THIS IS A STONE WALL. I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS. OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF STONE. THE TREES ALONG FERGUSON ARE 2.4 TIMES REQUIRED, WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO BUILD ALONG A RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE KIND OF ENVISION THIS, YOU HAVE THE NICE SCREEN WALL, BUT ALSO HAVE A LIVING SCREEN. WE WANT THE, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER-END COMMUNITY, IT NEEDS TO HAVE THAT WINDOW THAT REALLY POPS, RIGHT? AND SO ADDING THAT LIVING SCREEN IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. THIS IS THE... ENTRY MONUMENTATION, THIS SITE, SO WE'LL HAVE ON THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE OFF OF FERGUSON WILL BE A DIVIDED ENTRY. THIS IS A SMALLER ENTRY MONUMENT. I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE 20 FEET TALL. I THINK THIS ACTUALLY FITS MORE LIKE A LITTLE ENCLAVE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS PRETTY MODERN. YOU CAN SEE THE USE OF CAST IRON. IT WILL HAVE TWO PILLARS IN THE BACK, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SEASONAL COLOR IN BETWEEN WHAT WE CALL THE SPLITTER ISLAND, WHICH IS WHERE THE DIVIDED ENTRY IS. SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY WITH THIS. IT'S KIND OF A RUSTIC MODERN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT TERM IS, BUT WE'D LOVE FEEDBACK ON IT IF Y'ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT WE'RE EXCITED FOR HOW IT'S TURNING OUT. THIS IS THE POCKET PARK. Y'ALL HAVE NOT SEEN THIS YET. AND FORGIVE ME FOR CALLING COUNCILMAN CARVER OUT. I THINK IT WAS YOU, BUT I THINK THERE WAS A FEW COMMENTS ON THE PARK. SO, AND AGAIN, IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIGURE OUT. LIKE, IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO GO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEDICATE A 10-ACRE PARK RIGHT WHEN YOU HAVE 18 ACRES. BUT WE THINK THIS WAS A REALLY [00:40:01] GOOD SOLUTION WHERE WE LOSE A COUPLE OF LOTS. BUT WE CAN OFFER AN AMENITY FOR A SMALL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S, ONE, NOT THAT HARD TO MAINTAIN, BUT IS A REALLY NICE ADD. AND IT'S UNLIKE AN AMENITY, WE CAN HAVE THE HOA MAINTAIN THIS, BUT IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT A KEYPAD TO GET IN. AND SO THIS WILL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PLAYGROUND STRUCTURES. WE MEASURED THE ACTUAL EQUIPMENT SIZE OFF OF THE PARK NEXT DOOR. AND SO... THE SIZE OF THE ACTUAL PLAYGROUND AREA IS VERY COMPARABLE. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE GREEN SPACE OUTSIDE OF THE PLAYGROUND AREA, BUT WE'LL HAVE A SHADE STRUCTURE. WE'LL DO PICNICS. WE'LL WANT TO DO KIND OF A WE'LL TRY TO STICK WITH, LIKE, THE NATURAL THEME. THERE'S ACTUALLY A HUGE TREE CANOPY IF YOU KNOW THIS AREA, SO I THINK IT WILL PLAY WELL TO TRY TO UTILIZE SOME OF THAT EXISTING TREE CANOPY. SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I THINK IT WILL BE A NICE ADDITION TO THE DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, THIS IS PROBABLY SIMILAR TO WHAT I'VE SHOWN YOU BEFORE, BUT JUST THIS IS A, I ALWAYS LIKE TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, WHAT IS IT IN, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS IN THIS FOR THE CITY? SO AS WE'RE PROPOSING, THIS IS GOING TO BE BETWEEN 75 AND 76 LOTS. WE PROBABLY WILL LOSE A LOT ON THE SOUTHWEST DETENTION SIDE, THE DRAINAGE SIDE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE CALLING IT 76 LOTS. WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT ABOUT OUR 580,000 STARTING. PRICE, WHICH WE THINK IS A GREAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW. OBVIOUSLY, AS THE COMMUNITY KEEPS GOING, THAT NUMBER WILL GO UP. AND SO RIGHT NOW, OUR CURRENT PROPOSAL, WHICH WOULD BE ANNEXING INTO THE CITY, WE GIVE THE CITY AD VALOREM TAXES. THOSE TAXES ARE ABOUT $7.6 MILLION. WE WOULD ALSO PAY ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES OF $1.3 MILLION, SO THE TOTAL SAVING REVENUE ON THE TOP LINE SIDE WOULD BE JUST UNDER $9 MILLION. THE DIFFERENCE IS IF WE STAYED AS AN ETJ DEVELOPMENT, OBVIOUSLY YOU COULD DO SOMETHING WAY MORE DENSE, BUT THERE'S NO AD VALOREM REVENUE. THERE WOULD BE SOME IMPACT FEES OWED. I JUST LIKE TO COMPARE THE PICTURE. I THINK IT'S ABOUT AN $8 MILLION DELTA WIN FOR THE CITY FOR THE ANNEXATION. SO I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THESE ELEVATIONS. I KNOW WE HAD GOOD FEEDBACK ON THESE LAST TIME, BUT JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR ON WHAT WE'VE CHANGED. AND SO, AGAIN, I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE PUT IN THE PD THAT EVERY ELEVATION IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO DISTINCT FACADE PLANES. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S TRANSITIONAL OR FARMHOUSE. THEY HAVE TO IT CAN'T JUST BE A MONOTONOUS FACADE PLANE. IT HAS TO BE BROKEN UP. AND THAT'S PRETTY RARE IN, LIKE, A PRODUCTION HOME BUILDING. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THAT. I MEAN, SO THAT'S A YOU KICK OUT A LOT OF PRODUCTION HOME BUILDERS BY THAT REQUIREMENT RIGHT THERE. WE REQUIRE THAT ALL GARAGE DOORS MUST BE ENHANCED AND CANNOT EXTEND THREE FOOT PAST THE FRONT ELEVATION. I'M A LITTLE BIT NITPICKY ON THIS. GARAGE DOORS SHOULD NEVER BE THE FOCAL POINT OF A FRONT ELEVATION. IT IS CHEAPER TO PULL THEM FRONT TO PUSH THEM CLOSER TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT A GARAGE DOOR, PEOPLE LEAVE THEM OPEN, ESPECIALLY ON FRONT-ENTRY HOMES. WE WANT THE OTHER PART OF THE HOUSE TO BE THE FOCAL POINT. LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TUDOR-STYLE HOME, THINK HOW MUCH DIFFERENT IT WOULD LOOK IF THAT GARAGE DOOR PROTRUDED SEVEN FEET. YOUR EYES WOULD BE DRAWN TO THE GARAGE DOOR AND NOT THE HIGH BEAMS, NOT THE HEADER THAT I THINK REALLY MAKES THIS ELEVATION STICK. SO I THINK, AGAIN, IT'S JUST ONE OTHER THING THAT KIND OF DIFFERENTIATES THIS PROJECT. I TALKED ABOUT THE HOME REPETITION. THE BIG THING, AGAIN, IS WE HAVE NOW DEFINED. ALL THESE ELEVATIONS, THAT THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PD. FURTHER, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THAT NOW, SO YOU HAVE TO DEFINE IN OUR PD ONE OF THESE FOUR ELEVATIONS. WE STILL WANTED TO HAVE THAT SEMI, YOU KNOW, SEMI-CUSTOM, RIGHT? LIKE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE STARTING FROM SCRATCH, BUT YOU'RE ALSO NOT GOING TO BE PICKING SOMETHING OFF THE SHELF. AND SO WE'VE ADDED WHAT WE CALL THREE DESIGN ENHANCEMENTS THAT... A BUILDER HAS TO APPROVE, BUT IT'S ALSO IN THE PD, WHICH I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT THAT WE AGREED TO IN THE PD THAT BUILDERS HAVE TO, THAT A HOME BUYER WOULD HAVE TO PICK FROM, FROM THE PD. SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE 100% DIVIDED LIGHT ACROSS THE ELEVATIONS, EXTENDING THE FRONT PORCH OUT TO EIGHT FEET. SO JUST LIKE A MORE LIVABLE FRONT PORCH. METAL SEAM ON FRONT ROOFS, AN ADDITIONAL DORMER OR GABLE, THE SPLIT KIND OF CARRIAGE STYLE GARAGE DOORS, AND CEDAR TRIM. THERE'S PROBABLY 30 OR 40 OF [00:45:02] THESE THAT I THINK ARE JUST ENHANCEMENTS THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE NORMAL ELEVATION WOULD BE. AND OUR INTENT THERE WAS LIKE, LET'S GO ONE STEP ABOVE AND SHOW THAT LIKE, EVEN WE CAN STILL DO THE SEMI-CUSTOM THING, BUT STILL REQUIRE THESE HOMEOWNERS. THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A BUY-IN, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY NICE PRODUCT. SO, AGAIN, THAT WAS THE OH, I'M GOING BACK. THERE'S THE TRANSITIONAL TUDOR STYLE. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THESE ROOF PITCHES. THAT ONE ON THE RIGHT IS NOT 8-12THS. THAT'S 10-12THS. I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE. I'M VERY BIG ON ROOF PITCHES, SO I DO HAVE A SLIGHT LEANING TOWARDS A TRANSITIONAL ELEVATION, PERSONALLY. THIS WILL BE, YOU WON'T SEE AS HIGH CONTRASTING COLORS, A LOT MORE WHITE BRICK, DIVIDED GARAGE DOORS, USING A LITTLE HIGHER CONTENT ON THE WINDOWS, ETC. THIS IS MORE TRADITIONAL. THIS WOULD FOLLOW PRETTY CLOSE TO TUDOR, BUT YOU WOULDN'T SEE THE SAME ROOF PITCH THAT YOU WOULD SEE. SO THESE WOULD ACTUALLY BE 812 ROOF PITCH. THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST AFFORDABLE ELEVATION WE HAVE RIGHT HERE. BUT I STILL THINK IT LOOKS VERY NICE. YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF THE CLASSIC WATERFALL. ON THE SIDE, THIS IS CRAFTSMAN. WE'VE AGREED IN THE PD THAT THESE WON'T EXCEED 15%. I THINK I TOLD YOU ALL LAST TIME THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE LUCKY TO SELL 5% OF THEM AS CRAFTSMAN HOMES. BUT IF WE DO, IT WOULD BE A BIG WIN. IF I CAN GET THREE OR FOUR OF THESE ON EACH STREET, YOU CAN TELL THEY LOOK VERY DIFFERENT. AND JUST TO BREAK UP WHAT I CALL THE MASONRY MONOTONY. I THINK IT WOULD LOOK REALLY GOOD. MY FIRST DEVELOPMENT, WE ADDED THESE IN. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO SELL 50% CRAFTSMEN, AND THE MARKET JUST WASN'T THERE FOR THEM. BUT THERE ARE SPECIFIC BUYERS THAT REALLY LIKE THEM. AGAIN, ON THESE, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE LAP SIDING. THE GABLES USUALLY USE TRADITIONAL SHAKE-STYLE SIDING, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT. I THINK THEY DO LOOK REALLY NICE, AND IT OFFERS A LITTLE BIT MORE VARIETY THAN THE REST OF THE HOMES. THIS IS TEXAS VERNACULAR. THIS IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE ELEVATION. THESE ARE KIND OF, I THINK, WHEN I THINK OF TEXAS VERNACULAR, THIS IS HILL COUNTRY INSPIRED. AND SO, LIKE, DEFINITIONS ON THE PD WILL BE, YOU KNOW, STONE INCORPORATED AS THE MASONRY. YOU'LL SEE THE METAL SEAM ROOFS ON THE FRONT PORCH. THESE ARE MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE STONE, THE MOST EXPENSIVE ELEVATIONS TO BUILD. AND THEN LASTLY, THE MODERN FARMHOUSE. THIS IS DEFINITELY THE MORE USE OF THE VERTICAL BOARD AND BATTEN, MORE OF THE CEDAR TRIM, PROBABLY A WAY MORE HIGH CONTRAST OF COLORS. I THINK WE DID OUR FIRST MODERN FARMHOUSE PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS AGO, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A COMPLETE FAD, BUT PEOPLE ARE STILL BUYING THEM. I THINK THEY LOOK REALLY NICE. YOU DO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY ON THE BOARD AND BATON VERSUS THE MASONRY, BUT IT'S STILL A PRETTY EXPENSIVE HOME TO BUILD. AND JUST TO SUMMARIZE THIS UP, I DID THIS LAST TIME. I THINK ONE THING THAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL THAT I'VE APPRECIATED FRANKLY, LIKE I SAID, I'VE LITERALLY WATCHED THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING AND WHAT YOUR INPUT WAS BECAUSE I VIEW THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE GUY THAT SHOWS UP AND DEVELOPS AN ETJ DEAL AND WE DON'T EVEN GET TO TALK, RIGHT? THAT'S THE LAST THING I WANT. ONE THING I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IS THAT A QUESTION THAT YOU GUYS ALWAYS ASK, AND I SAID THIS AT MY WORKSHOP, IS THAT HOW DOES THIS BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF ANNA? AND I THINK AS... FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO END BY ANSWERING HOW I VIEW IT. I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO THREE MAIN COMPONENTS, FINANCIAL, CONTROL, AND QUALITY. FINANCIALLY, I THINK THIS DEAL, AGAIN, THE DYNAMICS OF THIS DEAL IS WE'RE IN DTJ. THERE'S A CCN. WE WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS AND WORK WITH YOU GUYS EITHER WAY. BUT THERE IS A BIG BENEFIT FROM THE AD VALOREM TAX REVENUES FROM ANNEXATION. THE SECOND THING IS CONTROL. WELL, I KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD IT FROM THIS COUNCIL SEVERAL TIMES, AND WE CAN APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE IT'S A CONCERN A LOT OF CITIES HAVE. BUT JUST BEING ABLE TO HAVE CONTROL LIKE WE'VE GOT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT YOU COULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE IF IT WEREN'T. AND THAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THINGS LIKE RENTALS. CALEB DID A GREAT JOB PRESENTING PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AGO ON THE MULTIFAMILY STOCK. [00:50:02] I THINK IT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO. AND SO TO ENABLE TO PROTECT THE CITY ON THESE ETJ DEVELOPMENTS, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH A DEVELOPER. AND SOMETIMES THOSE TERMS MAY NOT WORK OR THEY MIGHT, BUT I THINK IF THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT, I DO THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL PIECE TO CONTROL THE AMOUNT OF INCOMING RENTAL PRODUCT. LASTLY IS QUALITY. AS I SAID, AND I GET EXCITED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF GROWTH. I THINK I SAW ON THE EDC'S WEBSITE, ANNA'S THE FIFTH HIGHEST-GROWING CITY IN TEXAS. IT'S WAY UP THERE IN THE NATION. THERE'S BEEN A LOT COMING ON IN ANNA. WE JUST, I THINK AS I'VE HEARD IT FROM YOU, COUNCIL, IS LIKE, Y'ALL WANT TO MAKE GOOD DEALS, SMART DEALS FOR YOUR RESIDENTS, AND Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE QUALITY PRODUCT. THIS IS THE MOST, THE HIGHEST DESIGN QUALITY PD I'VE EVER PUT TOGETHER IN MY DEVELOPMENT CAREER. BUT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE APPROVED ANYTHING LIKE IT. I THINK THAT BY OFFERING A NICER PRODUCT ABOVE WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, LIKE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO REALLY WELL. AND I'M EXCITED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE PATHS AND START BUILDING THAT LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU GUYS. JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BACK UP AND SPEAK AND LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH. YOU SAID THAT YOUR HOMES WOULD BE 70% MASONRY. YEAH, SO THAT WAS WHEN I WENT TO P&Z BACK IN NOVEMBER. WE'VE UPDATED THAT NOW TO INCORPORATE ALL. THE 70% MASONRY WILL STILL REQUIRE, BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY REQUIREMENT I HAD AT P&Z IN NOVEMBER. SO SAYING THAT, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE REQUIRED ON SOME OF YOUR HOMES? THE FARMHOUSE. THE FARMHOUSE IS ZERO MASONRY, AND THAT CAN ONLY BE 15% OF THE HOMES. YEAH, BECAUSE THE CRAFTSMEN DIDN'T HAVE HARDLY ANY AT ALL. LIKE THIS ELEVATION, AND I... THIS WOULD NOT BE A DEAL KILLER TO ME AT ALL, BUT THIS ELEVATION, WE SAID, CAN'T BE MORE THAN 15% OF THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT. BUT THIS WOULD NOT OBVIOUSLY QUALIFY BECAUSE OF THE USE OF BOARD AND PATENT. OKAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PERCENTAGE BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THERE'S A 3% RENTAL CAP? YES, MA'AM. YOU REALIZE THAT'S ONLY 2.28 HOMES IN THAT AREA? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ENFORCE THAT? THROUGH THE HOA. I DO THAT ON EVERY PROJECT. YOU'RE GOING TO INFRINGE ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS. IF THEY WANT TO BUY A HOUSE, THEY CAN BUY A HOUSE. YOU CAN'T TELL THEM THEY CAN'T. NO, NO. ALL I'M ASKING IS 3% WITHOUT BOARD APPROVAL. LIKE I SAID, THE BOARD WILL WHAT HAPPENS IN ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS IS THAT I GET INVESTOR-OWNED PEOPLE BUYING HOMES. WE'RE DEALING WITH IT NOW. MY POINT IS YOU, AS A DEVELOPER, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THIS 3% CAP. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO THE HOA. WELL, THESE PEOPLE WHEN THE HOA GETS THE BOARD, THE HOMEOWNERS BECOME THE HOA BOARD. THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE THIS. YEAH, I WILL SAY, AND IF YOU WANTED IT TO BE 5% OR 10%, WE COULD DO THAT. 3% WAS A COMMENT I GOT FROM YOU ALL. WE HAVE DONE 5% ON EVERY OTHER PROJECT I'VE DEVELOPED. AND ALL IT DOES IS SAY, YOU CAN'T GO RENT YOUR HOUSE OUT UNLESS YOU COME TALK TO THE BOARD IF WE'RE ABOVE OUR CAP. I'M JUST SAYING THAT I DON'T SEE A REAL WAY TO ENFORCE THIS. WHETHER YOU'RE DEVELOPING, YES, I CAN SEE THAT YOU COULD DO THAT. BUT ONCE YOU HAND IT OFF TO THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE HOMEOWNERS BECOME THE BOARD, I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING ENFORCEABLE. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE AN HOA MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I WILL BE THE DECLARANT UNTIL THE LAST LOT IS SOLD, WAY DIFFERENT THAN MOST DEVELOPMENTS, RIGHT? LIKE SOMETIMES IT'S 50%, BUT I'M ON THE DECLARANT BOARD UNTIL THE LAST LOT IS SOLD. AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT. OUR INTENTION ALWAYS IS TO PROTECT HOMEOWNERS' PROPERTY RIGHTS, AND SO IT'S VERY CAREFUL HOW YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO STOP ANYBODY FROM BEING ABLE TO RENT OUT THEIR HOME. WHAT WE DO WANT TO STOP IS INVESTORS BUYING OUT BLOCKS AND BLOCKS OF HOMES, AND THAT'S THE WORST THING FOR YOU ALL AND FOR ME. YOU'RE SHOWING US ALL THESE PRETTY PICTURES OF THESE HOMES, AND THEY'RE GORGEOUS HOMES. I'M NOT GOING TO LIE AND SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT. WILL YOU BE WILLING TO PUT THIS INTO PD? I THINK IT'S IN THE PD. I DEFINED THE PD AS CLOSE AS I COULD POSSIBLY DO IT. I DON'T SEE THE PICTURES IN HERE. CAN WE GET STAFF TO STEP UP FOR A SECOND AND MAYBE CLARIFY THAT? [00:55:02] YEAH, THERE ARE NO IMAGES IN THERE. HE HAS DONE JUST STRICTLY DESCRIPTIVE IN THE WRITING OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS FAR AS THAT GOES TO DESCRIBE THE HOUSES. AND THE DETAIL OF THE ARCHITECTURE IS ALL IN WRITTEN FORMAT. IT'S NOT IN IMAGES. WHAT IS THE CONCERN? WITH NOT PUTTING PICTURES IN THERE, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW? SORRY, CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? WHAT IS THE CONCERN FOR NOT PUTTING THE PICTURES BUT SPECIFIC WRITTEN DESCRIPTIONS? MY BIG CONCERN IS WE HAVE TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO MANEUVER, RIGHT? LIKE I HAVE A HOMEBUYER THAT COMES IN THAT WANTS A DIFFERENT PAINT COLOR. THEY WANT TO THERE HAS TO BE A MARKET COMPONENT TO DOING THE DEAL. I'M NOT AND MAYBE TAKE A STEP BACK. I'M NOT A BUILDER, RIGHT? SO I SELL THIS TO MY BUILDER, THE FINISH LOTS. WE AGREE ON THE ELEVATIONS, WHAT THEY'VE PRODUCED. BUT WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE SEMI-CUSTOM WHERE THESE AREN'T COOKIE CUTTER, THIS IS YOUR PLAN AND THIS IS AN ELEVATION. THIS IS YOU GO TO A SHOWROOM, YOU HAVE INPUT. WE HAVE A LIST OF AGREED, LIKE THIS IS THE REQUIREMENTS. BUT THERE'S NO WAY FOR, AND I WOULDN'T WANT IT TO BE THAT THIS IS THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE TO OFFER. YES, BUT IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN CLARIFY IN THERE THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE SPECIFIC PICTURE. IT'S MORE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT YOU USE AS A REFERENCE POINT. YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT OF CHANGES THESE LAST FEW MONTHS, AND IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LOT CLOSER. I THINK WE'RE ALMOST THERE. WE'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS. JUST TO FOLLOW UP WITH, SO IF STAFF WOULD MIND JUST STEPPING UP HERE FOR A REAL QUICK SECOND. SO HELP US WALK US THROUGH WHAT ARE, GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT INTO WHAT THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTIONS ARE AND THEN WHAT THE REQUEST WAS FROM STAFF AS WELL. OKAY, SO REALLY I WANT TO BE SURE, NUMBER ONE, WE'RE STAYING FOCUSED ON WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, WHICH IS THE PRE-ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT'S IN THERE THAT... FALLS SHORT IN THIS AS FAR AS STAFF'S ANALYSIS OF WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS AS OUTLINED IN THAT THERE ARE FIVE ITEMS THAT DON'T MEET THE PID POLICY AND WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED THAT HIS POLICY IS IS THEY WANT TO USE THE PID POLICY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT PID POLICY OR USE OF THE PID THEN THEY DON'T WANT TO DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECT. IN THE CITY LIMITS AS AS IT'S BEING PROPOSED TO YOU AT THIS TIME WITH THAT WHEN YOU JUMP INTO THE WHAT IT DOESN'T MEET IN THERE I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF GO OVER THAT MAYBE THAT HELP PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT AND THEN I CAN JUMP INTO SOME DETAILS ON ON THOSE BUT NUMBER ONE IS IS THEY DOES THIS PROJECT GENERATE UH ECONOMIC AND SUPERIOR DEVELOPMENT BENEFIT TO THE CITY BEYOND THAT OF A NORMAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD GENERATE THAT'S A CONCERN THAT STAFF HAD AND BASED ON WHAT'S PROVIDED IN THE AGREEMENT, WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED ALTOGETHER, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT DOES. ITEM C IS PROVIDE FOR ENHANCED IMPROVEMENT TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. THIS BEING EXAMPLES OF ENTRYWAYS, LANDSCAPING, FOUNTAINS, SPECIALLY LIGHTING, ART DECORATIVE AND LANDSCAPED STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES, MULTI-USE TRAILS AND SIGNAGE. THE ISSUE IS, IS THIS IS ONLY 18 ACRES, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PID POLICY IS THAT IT HAS TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND. IT'S INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO FIT THE AMENITIES THAT THEY NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ON SUCH A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S NOT THAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE DOING WOULD BE THAT BAD AS FAR AS STANDING ALONE, BUT IF IT WAS LARGER, HAD THE ABILITY TO PUT THE AMENITIES AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT... THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT YOU GUYS HAVE REQUESTED A STAFF TO LOOK AT. WE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER ABOUT PARKS, FOR EXAMPLE, AS IF WE WERE TO USE THE PID ON THAT. COULD WE USE, WE WOULD SET ASIDE PID FUNDS TO ADD ON TO ADJACENT PARKS BECAUSE WE HAVE A PARK ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS, LITERALLY WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, THAT THE PID FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR. EXPANDING THAT PARK AND THE FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE. THAT WAS NOT AN ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY CHOSE TO DO ON THAT. THERE WAS ALTERNATIVES FOR... INCREASING THE LOT SIZES, WHICH IS A GOAL OF THE COUNCIL, DIVERSIFY OUR HOUSING STOCK AND PROVIDE FOR THAT. [01:00:01] BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS YOU HAD THE REPORT THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU, THE STAFF PROVIDED FOR YOU. WE WENT THROUGH THAT. A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS THE EXACT SAME LOT SIZES, WHICH IS ACTUALLY YIELDING THE SAME END RESULTS IN THE SAME PRICE RANGES AND THE SAME HOUSING, WHICH ISN'T A BAD THING. BUT YOU ALSO ALL KNOW. WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR NUMBERS WELL INTO THE FUTURE, OVER 20 YEARS WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION AVAILABLE FOR THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE STAFF'S CONCERN IS BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DIRECTED STAFF. WE'RE TRYING TO DO BETTER. IT DOESN'T MEAN ALL THE PIDS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST ARE AT THE LEVEL THAT YOU GUYS WANT THEM TO BE AT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO THAT LEVEL. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THAT PID POLICY. WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE ON A TIMELINE. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A TIMELINE AND THEY NEED TO GET AN ANSWER AS THEY MOVE FORWARD. BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THESE, MEETING THE COMMUNITY NEEDS, ENHANCED DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, PARKS AND OFF-STREET PARKING, FACILITIES, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, WASTEWATER OR WATER OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS. BECAUSE THIS IS SO SMALL OF A PROPERTY, THERE ISN'T THAT. GREAT DEMAND OR NEED THAT IT'S GOING TO HELP THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY OUT IN THOSE AREAS. THE INCREASE OR ENHANCE CITY'S MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION OR ROADWAY PLANS, IF THIS IS ON AN EXISTING ROADWAY THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE PLANS THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS AND THAT THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR AS THEIR PORTION OF THOSE COSTS. AND THE LAST IS EXCEEDING DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY, AND PARTICULARLY ENHANCED ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. GIVE THEM CREDIT. THEY'VE WORKED WITH US ON THOSE. THEY HAVE UPGRADED SOME OF THOSE. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT HITS THE LEVEL THAT I HAVE BEEN DIRECTED FROM THE COUNCIL AND FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN UPPING THAT FROM, I THINK, THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU SAW THAT. SO IN PUTTING IT TO MATCH THE PICTURES THAT THEY HAVE. BUT AGAIN, THERE IS SOME CONCERNS ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN. ALL OF US HAVE AI AVAILABLE TO US NOW. YOU CAN PLUG IN THESE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND ASK IT TO GIVE YOU WHAT THEY THINK THAT WILL LOOK LIKE OR OPTIONS BASED ON VALUATIONS. AND YOU CAN GET A DESCRIPTION, A REALLY GOOD DESCRIPTION OF WHAT DIVERSITY THAT COULD BE PROVIDED WITH THAT. LIKE I SAID, THE DEVELOPER IS A DEVELOPER OF THE LAND. THEY'RE GOING TO SELL THAT TO A DEVELOPER WHO ACTUALLY BUILDS THE HOMES TO THESE SPECIFICATIONS THAT THEY'RE ASKING TO FOLLOW. ENHANCED AMENITIES. THERE ARE REALLY NO AMENITIES THAT ARE ENHANCED ON THE PROPERTY. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT ENHANCED AMENITIES ON THERE. AND PROVIDE FOR A SUPERIOR DESIGN OF LOTS OR BUILDINGS. AGAIN, THEY ARE BUILDING LARGER. HOT ON OUR EXISTING STYLE OF SMALLER 60 FOOT LOTS. AND SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY STAFF WENT THROUGH THERE. AND WE'RE JUST, FOR THE PID POLICY, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FIND A REASON THAT THE PID COULD BE USED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. IF THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THE USE OF A PID, THEN I THINK WE COULD BE ALL FOR THAT. BUT YOU HAVE REQUESTED STAFF TO BE AT A HIGHER LEVEL WITH THE USE OF PIDS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE... TRYING TO REPORT TO YOU AS WE REVIEW THESE AND COME BEFORE YOU. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERED SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. AND IF YOU'VE GOT MORE, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER. NO, I THINK YOU LAID IT OUT PRETTY CLEARLY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, DEVELOPER. SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT STAFF HAD, HELP US WALK THROUGH THE GAP AND WHAT'S MAYBE SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS ON FULFILLING SOME OF THOSE. HOW DO WE GET CLOSER? I THINK THEY LISTED FIVE THINGS. I GUESS THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CONTENTION POINTS. HOW DO WE GET OVER THAT HURDLE? AND MAYBE GIVE US SOME INSIGHT INTO WHAT'S PREVENTING YOU. YEAH, AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE PIT POLICY IS, I THINK, BEING UPDATED, AND THIS IS COMPLICATED WHERE WE STAND. BUT I'LL GO OFF THE LIST THAT WE WERE GIVEN. SO GENERATE ECONOMIC AND SUPERIOR DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS TO THE CITY. TO ME, THIS IS AN ETJ. I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE USING PITS FOR. Y'ALL, THERE'S NO REVENUE TO BE GENERATED FROM THIS DEAL IF I GO DO THE ETJ DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? AND SO BY ANNEXING, THE NET TAX MARGIN IS RIGHT AROUND $8 MILLION. SO LET ME FOLLOW UP ON THAT. YEAH. WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR AVERAGE HOME PIT FEE IS GOING TO BE? CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? YOUR AVERAGE HOME PIT FEE? YEAH, YOUR ASSESSMENT FOR EACH HOME. SO IT'S CAPPED OUT AT $558,000 [01:05:01] A YEAR. SO WHAT DOES THAT WORK OUT TO EVERY MONTH? $490,000. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. I WENT AND DID SOME RESEARCH IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DO HAVE PITS. ONE THAT COMES UP IS THE WOODS AT LINDSAY PLACE. RIGHT. THEY HAVE A $240 PID A MONTH EXTRA FEE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE PAID OUT OVER 30 YEARS. NOW, TO THE HOMEOWNER, WHAT BENEFIT DO THEY HAVE? IF A HOMEOWNER WERE TO PUT $240 EXTRA INTO EVEN JUST A BASIC CD OVER TIME, BASIC INVESTMENT, THEY WOULD EARN A LOT MORE OF A RETURN VERSUS WHEN YOU HAVE A PID. THERE'S NO AMENITIES THERE. WHAT ARE THEY ACTUALLY PAYING FOR? SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY WE'RE APPROVING A TAX INCREASE ROUNDABOUT ON THESE HOMES. YES, THEY'RE NICER, BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT ARE THEY PAYING FOR? AT LEAST IN SOME OF THESE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE PID FEES, YOU GET AN AMENITY CENTER, YOU GET A PARK, YOU GET A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS ADDED THAT PART. IT'S ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. BUT IT'S A HARD HURDLE TO COME OVER WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO HOW DO WE... JUSTIFY IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENTS A POTENTIAL FOUR OR FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR ASSESSMENT FEE AND THERE'S NOTHING THERE RIGHT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE YOU KNOW THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS WE APPRECIATE THAT BUT BUT THAT'S THAT'S REALLY IT FOR ME BECAUSE I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR HOMES WHERE I HAD TO LEARN HEY WHAT'S A MUD WHAT'S A PIT LIKE WHAT ARE ALL THESE THINGS RIGHT AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS I UNDERSTOOD THAT HEY A MUD CREATES CERTAIN ISSUES FOR ANY HOMEOWNER A PID HAS ITS VALUE IF IT'S A HIGHER-END PID. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ONES IN PROSPER, SOME OF THE CELINO ONES, THEY HAVE THEM. BUT IT ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO WHAT ARE YOU PAYING FOR? AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ASKED ME, HEY, WHAT AM I PAYING FOR $240 EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW, FOR 30 YEARS? WHAT AM I PAYING FOR, FOR EXAMPLE? AND THAT'S A HARD QUESTION FOR, I THINK, ANY OF US. TO REALLY BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY, SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR, AND IF YOU CAN HELP US KIND OF WALK THROUGH, HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE CITIZENS? I'LL LEAVE THE FLOOR TO YOU. WELL, AND BEFORE HE ANSWERS, I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE PID FEE, YOU ALSO HAVE AN HOA FEE, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE PROPERTY TAXES. THE PID FEE? YOU MEAN THE PID FEE THE CITY CHARGES? OH, THE ASSESSMENT. OKAY, I GOT IT. YEAH, YEAH. FIRST OF ALL… JUST SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDIDATE. I LOVE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS. I THINK IT'S HEALTHY AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUE, RIGHT? ONE IS THAT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN A WHOLE RIGHT NOW DOES NOT MAKE SENSE WITHOUT ANY FINANCING DISTRICT. IT JUST DOESN'T. AND SO IT MAKES A PROJECT WHERE A DEVELOPER WOULD GO BUILD HIGH DENSITY BTR. OR MULTI-FAMILY BE ABLE TO DO SINGLE FAMILY. IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE LAND PRICES ARE VERSUS DEVELOPMENT COSTS AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH HOME VALUE, THERE'S NO DEALS REALLY GETTING DONE WITHOUT A DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S NOT ME TRYING TO PROJECT OR ANYTHING. THE PIT IN ITS BEST FORM IS THAT WE CAN LOWER OUR COST TO THAT HOME BUILDER, THAT HOME BUYER, THAT END BUYER, AND WE'RE FINANCING IT. OVER A 30-YEAR PERIOD. THEY ARE FINANCING IT OVER A 30-YEAR PERIOD. NO DIFFERENT THAN IF Y'ALL LOOK JUST PUT THIS OFF THE TABLE. I WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH YOU GUYS. IF Y'ALL CAN DENY THIS REQUEST, I'LL COME BACK UP IN TWO MONTHS AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND GIVE YOU MY LET YOU GUYS TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT. LIKE I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE LIKE A THAT'S JUST NOT HOW I DO BUSINESS. Y'ALL HAVE BEEN GREAT, SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. THE DIFFERENCE ON THE PID, THOUGH, IS THAT IT IS A WAY FOR ME TO LOWER MY LOT PRICE TO THE HOME BUILDER, TO THE HOME BUYER, BECAUSE WITHOUT THIS PID, I WOULD HAVE TO BE SELLING THESE HOMES AT PROBABLY $750,000. SO WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO A RESIDENT THAT SAYS, WHY ARE WE SUBSIDIZING A DEVELOPER? WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ANSWER TO THAT, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY? WELL, I WOULD SAY, WHY ARE WE SUBSIDIZING? YOU ARE SUBSIDIZING THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO ALLOW IT TO BE SINGLE FAMILY. NOT THE DEVELOPER. YES, COMING BACK TO MANNY'S QUESTION, IT COMES FROM THE SAME QUESTION THERE FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE, AND THIS IS NOT ON ME, BUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU MARKET THAT TO SOMEBODY? I MEAN, I'VE KNOWN PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT HOUSES AND FOUND OUT AFTER THEY GOT IN, THEY READ THE FINE LINE AND FOUND OUT, OH, WHAT, I'M IN THE MUD, NOW THEY'RE ALREADY IN, WHATEVER. THAT'S A TOUGH PILL [01:10:01] TO SWALLOW, BUT YOU GO AND YOU DEVELOP THE LAND, THERE'S A PIT, IT'S BUILT OUT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE LAST FEW HOMEBUYERS COME IN AND NOW THEY'RE COMING TO COUNCIL. IT'S LIKE, WHY AM I PAYING, YOU KNOW, $5,800 A YEAR EXTRA THAT THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET IS NOT PAYING? I THINK I WOULD, IF I CAN ANSWER THAT IN MAYBE A MORE CALCULATED WAY, IF YOU TAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT, AND CITY OF ANNA SAYS, PAY KELBY IN BRITAIN, NOT THE RIGHT TIME FOR US, LET'S SHAKE HANDS AND WE'LL WALK AWAY OR WHATEVER, RIGHT, AND TAKE THIS FOR, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TOPS AND GROVES, TAKE IT FOR ANY DEAL. WHAT I'M GOING TO GO DO UNDER THE RIGHT SCENARIOS, WHICH IS PROJECT METO SCENARIOS, BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT'S 100 ACRES. FOR ME TO MAKE THE DEAL DEVELOPABLE, I'M GOING TO GO CREATE EITHER AN MMD OR A MUD. NOW, THAT TAKES ME TIME. I PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME INTO IT, BUT USUALLY PIDS ARE QUICKER TO GET PROCESSED BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY. I WOULD GO CREATE A MUD. I WOULD HAVE SET ASIDE THAT TAX RATE. THAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IF THEY WERE ANNEXING INTO YOUR CITY LIMITS VERSUS BEING IN MY MUD, AND I'D PROVIDE THEM. PRETTY MUCH THE SAME SERVICES YOU WORK. WE WOULD PROVIDE THEM TRASH, WATER, SEWER. WE'D HAVE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT. SO WE WOULD CONTRACT ALL THOSE THINGS THROUGH THE MUD, AND THEIR NET EFFECTIVE TAX RATE, THEIR TAX RATE EQUIVALENT, WHETHER IT'S AN ASSESSMENT VIA A PID OR A LEVY VIA MUD, WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER COMPARABLE MUD DISTRICTS. SO RIGHT NOW IN NORTH TEXAS, OUR AVERAGE TAX RATE IS $302 ALL IN BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE MUDS. CIAO. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT FROM AN ASSESSMENT STANDPOINT, THAT PART ALONE, I GUESS I THINK ABOUT IT AS LIKE YOUR TOTAL TAX STACK OF WHERE WE ARE TO COMPETING DEVELOPMENTS, AND IT'S THAT $3 PER 100 AV THAT WE WANT TO BE WITHIN. I'LL BE HONEST. IT'S A BIT OF A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE. I THINK A LOT OF THE DIFFICULTY IS IN JUST THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IF THIS WAS LIKE A $300, $400, $500, THIS COST WOULD BE SPREAD, THERE'D BE MORE ROOM FOR AMENITY AND GREEN SPACE. I THINK THIS WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT WITH US. WE APPRECIATE IT. I MEAN, THIS IS HONESTLY ONE OF THE BEST ENGAGEMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH DEVELOPERS, AND WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. WE'VE LEARNED A LOT, AND I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CREATE A 360 WIN HERE. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO HELP US WALK THIS LINE A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE THE UNIQUE. YOU KNOW, FIRST TIP OF THE SPEAR ON SOME OF THESE CHANGES, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU WANT OUR HELP ON SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, PIT FEES, OR IF YOU WANT US TO CREATE A PIT, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS HAVE TO FLEX IN SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER WAYS. I MEAN, THERE'S VERY LITTLE JUSTIFIABLE ROOM FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND THIS PUBLICLY, RIGHT? AND, AND ALTHOUGH THE DEAL IS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC THERE'S NEGATIVES ON THAT. IT'S JUST THE DEAL IS NOT BIG ENOUGH. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REAL INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD UP FERGUSON. I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SHARE IN THAT, RIGHT? OR IS THERE VERY LIMITED? NO, WE DO. I JUST, AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A SHARE OF FERGUSON. FORGIVE ME, YES. AND, JOSEPH, YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT THE LATEST RIGHT-OF-WAY. FROM WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN NOVEMBER, THE ISSUE WAS NEITHER ONE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS ARE OBTAINED. SO WHAT WE SAID IS... NORMALLY, WE HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS. WE CAN EITHER BUILD A PORTION OF FERGUSON THAT CONJOINS, THAT HITS BOTH RIGHT-OF-WAYS, OR WE'LL DEDICATE OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH IS IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE, WHICH WOULD BE AROUND $230,000, AND PAY THE IMPACT FEES, WHICH PUTS US ABOUT 150% OF OUR ROUGH PORTION OF SHARE. WE WEREN'T TRYING TO GET OUT I DON'T WANT THE EXPANSION OF FERGUSON TO STOP THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'M I WANT TO BE ALL EARS ON LIKE HOW DO WE FIGURE THAT OUT. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT WAY IS GOING TO BE OBTAINED. CAN YOU PULL UP THE SLIDE THERE WITH THE LOCATION WHERE IT SHOWS FERGUSON? SO BLUE IS OBTAINED. YELLOW IS WHAT I WOULD DEDICATE. RED IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED. WILL YOU BE BUILDING ANY OF THAT? OR WILL IT BE GIVING ANY MONEY IN THAT WAY? SO I THINK THAT SO THERE'S TWO OPTIONS HERE AS I SEE IT. I'M REALLY BAD ABOUT TALKING. SORRY. YOU'RE DOING GREAT. I GET EXCITED. SO THIS POINTER'S NOT WORKING. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO THE FIRST OPTION WOULD BE WE BUILD THE YELLOW, WHICH IS OUR PORTION OF FERGUSON. BUT IT'S JUST A DEAD-END ROAD TO BOTH SIDES BECAUSE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY HASN'T BEEN OBTAINED ON EITHER END. THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION WHERE OH MY GOSH, WHOOPS, SORRY. I THINK WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS [01:15:03] LAST TIME, BUT THERE'S A BIT OF A PREMIUM ADDED ON TOP OF IT TO OFFSET ANY INFLATION OR ANY OTHER WELL, THE SECOND THING IS WE COULD CIRCUMVENT THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY AND MAKE OUR CORNER ENTER IT LIKE SO WE COULD CIRCUMVENT THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THEN COME BACK. THE POINTER'S NOT WORKING, BUT IT WOULD COME BACK LIKE THIS. BUT THE ANGLES DON'T IT'S NOT A SAFE ENTRANCE. IT'S NOT AN EXECUTABLE PLAN. SO TO ME, IT WAS EITHER WE BUILD THAT PIECE OF FERGUSON. IT DOESN'T DO ANYBODY ANY GOOD RIGHT NOW, OR LET ME GIVE YOU THE FUNDS VIA THAT MECHANISM, AND WE BUILD IT WHEN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY GETS BUILT. I MEAN, MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS I JUST DON'T WANT THE I WANT TO BE IF WE WANTED TO DO THE ENTITY DEAL, I WANT TO I WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, RIGHT, AND EITHER NEED HELP ON THE RIGHT OF WAY OR WE GIVE YOU ALL THE MONEY TO HELP. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE REALLY CLOSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW, JUST ON JUST MY TWO CENTS, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL IS GOING TO REACH THE THRESHOLD FOR ME TO GET OVER THAT HURDLE. ONCE AGAIN, I DO WANT TO ADD, I THINK IF THIS WAS A BIGGER DEVELOPMENT, IF THERE WAS MORE LOTS, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE REST OF COUNCIL HERE, BUT AT THIS POINT I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY BIG HURDLE FOR ME TO CROSS. BUT, GUYS, I THINK YOU'RE THERE. I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. IT'S JUST, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ONE IS JUST A BIT OF A PICKLE. AND JUST TO, IS YOUR ISSUE MOSTLY ON THE SIZE? IT'S JUST HARD FOR US TO GET THE OTHER THINGS IN OUR HEAD. YEAH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PETS PERSONALLY. IT'S JUST WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY IT. AND THE JUSTIFICATIONS HERE ARE JUST VERY LIMITED. AND ON TOP OF THAT, IF THIS WAS SPREAD ACROSS 300 HOMES, THAT $400 OR $500 MONTHLY ASSESSMENT IS SUDDENLY $200. I'M JUST DOING MATH OUT THERE, RIGHT? BUT IT CHANGES THE DYNAMICS OF IT, AND IT ALSO CHANGES THE MONTHLY. BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, JUST LIKE THEIR CARS, THEY BUY THEIR HOMES ON MONTHLY PAYMENTS. RIGHT, RIGHT. WHATEVER THEIR BUDGETS ARE. SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE ONCE WE START ADDING $500 ONTO ANY AVERAGE MORTGAGE FOR THAT TYPE OF HOUSE IN THE CURRENT MARKET, I MEAN, YOU'RE CHANGING THE TYPE OF DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE TYPE OF HOMES. IT ADDS A LAYER OF COMPLEXITY ON IT. BUT I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ON THE RIGHT PAGE. I MEAN, PLEASE JUST DON'T BE DISCOURAGED BY THIS, BUT IT'S JUST AT THE CURRENT MOMENT WITH THE LOCATION THAT IT'S AT, IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME. YEAH. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. I REALLY DO. AND I WOULD JUST SAY THE ASSESSMENTS ARE A MAX NUMBER. WE INCLUDE BASICALLY ALL IT IS IS WE'RE HITTING OUR 580, AND WE'RE PUTTING IT AT THE PID RATE. SO 580, 5800, A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT. WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE BUDGET TO GET THERE. IT WILL NOT BE 5800. THAT'S JUST THE MAX. AND IT'S PROJECTED IN THE HIGH THREES TO LOW FOURS. THAT'S A COMMENT I FEEL LIKE WE COULD GET THERE ON, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR ANCHORAGE COMMENT. RESPECTFULLY, JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT. YEP. I APPRECIATE THE CANDID CONVERSATION. YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOU FELT LIKE THE CITY WASN'T GOING TO MEET YOU, I GUESS, NEAR TERM, HALFWAY. AS FAR AS HAVING A PID FORMED FOR THIS, THAT YOU WOULD SEEK OUT PUTTING IN A MUD, MUTUAL UTILITY DISTRICT. WHAT'S THAT? I MEAN, CAN YOU SHOW US OR EXPLAIN TO US HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALL THOSE UTILITIES RUN TO IT, SEWER WATER, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF? WELL, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS SITE WE WORKED ON A HIGHER DENSITY SITE WITH STAFF FOR PLAN B JUST BECAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE OPTION IT MAY NOT THE THING WITH THE MUD IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST $20 MILLION OF ASSESSED VALUE TO ISSUE AN ASSESSMENT. AND IF YOU DO A RENTAL PRODUCT, MUDS DON'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE YOU CAP IT AT A 5% RATE. AND SO THAT ASSESSMENT, EVEN WITH A PIT LIKE YOU SHOULD NEVER PUT A PIT OR A MUD ON A RENTAL PRODUCT WHEN YOU USE A CAP RATE. THE UTILITIES ARE AND HONESTLY, THIS IS WHY THIS DEAL IS VERY UNIQUE. SO THIS DEAL IS IN THE ETJ. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK YOU ALL ARE AWARE I CAN OPT OUT OF THE ETJ IN 45 DAYS. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT A THREAT. THAT'S JUST LIKE THE WAY IT WORKS. SO THEN I WOULD GO TO THE COUNTY AND FALL UNDER THE COUNTY, BUT YOU ALL STILL HAVE THE CCN, WHICH IS THE OBLIGATION TO SERVE. SO WE WOULD WORK OUT WHAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE A NON-STANDARD, WE DO THIS A LOT, A NON-STANDARD SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE CITY OF ANNA TO STILL SERVICE THE PROPERTY AND THEN ALL OF MY PLATTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD GO TO COLLIN COUNTY. I BELIEVE I WILL STILL NEED A DRIVEWAY PERMIT FROM THE CITY OF ANNA ON THAT CONNECTION TO FERGUSON BUT THE PLATTING EVER THE JURISDICTION WOULD FALL OVER BACK TO THE COUNTY. [01:20:03] SO, YOU HAVE A DEADLINE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO HIT, RIGHT? IS THERE A DEADLINE, SORRY, THAT YOU HAVE TO, IS THERE SOME TYPE OF MARKER THAT YOU HAVE TO GET AN ANSWER BY? DID YOU SAY A DEADLINE? YEAH, SOME TYPE OF DEADLINE. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE AN ANSWER BY X ROUGH PERIOD? IT WAS MARCH. WE HAVE A, OUR CO-OWNER HAS BEEN VERY, AND WE'VE EXPLAINED TO HIM, BASICALLY OUR STORY, I'M ON PUBLIC, HAS BEEN CITY OF HANNA'S UPDATING THE PID POLICY, WE NEED TO GET THAT UPDATED. AND THEN WE KNEW THAT THAT WASN'T QUITE GETTING THERE. AND SO HE'S BEEN VERY GENEROUS. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT TO, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO SECURE OUR ENTITLEMENTS BY MAY FOR US TO CLOSE. SO, BECAUSE IF YOU GO, LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, MUD, AND NOW YOU'RE ON A TIGHT DEADLINE, YOU PROBABLY HAVE CARRYING COSTS. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE $20 MILLION IN ASSESSMENT ON THAT FOR SPECIFIC MUD. YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A RISK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE TO BE VERY BLUNT, IT'S JUST NOT. AND IF YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS TIME, TRYING TO GO FOR A MUD IS GOING TO DELAY YOU, ADD MORE LAYERS OF COMPLEXITY. I MEAN, IT'S IN EVERYBODY'S INTEREST, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DO HOLD THE LEVERAGE IN THIS CONVERSATION. SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWERS. YOU KNOW, IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY ANSWERS OR ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU GUYS. I DO. I'M LOOKING OVER YOUR DA HERE, AND YOU'VE GOT FOUR DIFFERENT STYLES OF HOUSES. AND I'M READING EACH TRANSITIONAL TWO-DOOR, AND I'M JUST PULLING THE TWO-DOOR STYLE OUT. THE VERY LAST SENTENCE SAYS, EACH TRANSITIONAL TUDOR-STYLE HOME SHALL IMPLEMENT A MINIMUM OF THREE OF THE FOLLOWING DESIGN ENHANCEMENTS. AND THERE'S 12 TO CHOOSE FROM. YES. CONSIDER RAISING THAT FROM THREE BECAUSE, I MEAN, THAT LITERALLY HOLDS YOU TO JUST THREE OUT OF 12. RIGHT. AND YOU GET TO PICK THOSE. WE DON'T. YEAH, THE DISCRETIONARY ONES. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT THERE. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING WE ADDED ON OURSELVES THAT WE DEFINE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD, WHICH IS HERE, AND THEN WE ADD ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS. BUT I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD WORK THROUGH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE MINIMUM THREE ON ALL OF THEM. FOR THE VERNACULAR, YOU HAVE 11 CHOICES. CRAFTSMAN, YOU HAVE 10. AND FARMHOUSE, YOU ALSO HAVE 12. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO CONSIDER RAISING THAT. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN. I KNOW YOU ALL CAN'T SEE IT, BUT SEVERAL OF US HAVE HAD THEIR. HAND ON THE TRIGGER TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE MICROPHONE, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE IT MEANS WE'RE HAVING GOOD COLLABORATION. YES. BEFORE I TALK WITH YOU, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO OUR STAFF AND CITY MANAGER. SIR, YOU DID A FINE JOB. OUR STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL HAS, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE A SAYING THAT WE THREW AROUND, YOU KNOW, WE START WITH YES AND WE TRY TO END WITH YES. AND REGARDING THIS PIT POLICY. I WOULD SAY THAT THIS STAFF HAS PUT IN AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF TIME TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THE CHECKLIST. OLD PIT POLICY, NEW PIT POLICY, CONCESSIONS, THAT SORT OF STUFF. IT DOESN'T FIT THE PIT POLICY. IT DOESN'T FIT ENOUGH OF THE PIT POLICY, EXCUSE ME. SO, COMMENDABLE. KEEP DOING YOUR JOB. IT MAKES OUR JOB, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, A LOT EASIER AND THAT'S COMMENDABLE BEHAVIOR. IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE AGAINST OUR DEVELOPERS, THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB. HOW LONG DO YOU SEE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TAKING TO BUILD OUT JUST A PROJECTION? LIKE THIS PLAN RIGHT HERE, PROBABLY IT WOULD TAKE ME 18 MONTHS TO DO THE HORIZONTAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN THEY WOULD TAKE, WE WOULD BUILD 20 HOMES PER QUARTER. I MEAN, IF YOU ADD ALL THAT UP, YOU'RE TALKING THREE YEARS. OKAY. YEAH. YES TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER. IT WAS ME. I KNOW OTHERS HAVE GIVEN YOU A LOT OF INPUT. I SEE IN YOUR PRESENTATION WHERE YOU'VE TRIED TO INCORPORATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS. I THINK IT'S AN INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT. IT'S ONE I'VE BEEN HOPING FOR FOR A LONG TIME. AND I LOVE THE ENGAGEMENT. I HOPE YOU WILL STAY ENGAGED WITH US. THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WHETHER WE APPROVE OF IT OR NOT, AND FOR OTHER PRODUCTS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU ARE BRINGING TO [01:25:03] US WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THAT, AND I'VE HEARD YOU SAY IT ON THE MICROPHONE EVEN TONIGHT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP WORKING WITH US. I HOPE THAT YOU WILL, NOT JUST THIS PROJECT BUT OTHER ONES. IT'S SLIGHTLY PREMATURE. YOU FEEL IT, WE FEEL IT. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE COMPONENTS OF FERGUSON IN PLACE TO ALLOW YOU TO BE FULLY SUCCESSFUL WITH YOUR PROJECT. SO THAT'S BEEN VOCALIZED PER SE UP HERE, BUT WE HAVE A STRONG CONCERN THAT, AS YOU SAID JUST A MOMENT AGO, HOW TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T WANT TO ARTIFICIALLY ACCELERATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T SUPPORT TO THE QUALITY THAT WE WANT. I AM GOING TO CORRECT YOU ON ONE WORD. IT IS NOT CONTROL. SAY THAT AGAIN. IT IS NOT CONTROL. YOU SAID THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AN ATTRIBUTE IS VISION AND A STANDARD. THAT'S GOOD, YEAH. YOU'RE TRYING TO SUPPORT THAT VISION. YES. I SEE IT. IT'S PLAIN AS DAY. HE'S ALSO TRYING TO GET A DEAL DONE, AND THAT'S OKAY, TOO. I'M GOING TO END WITH THIS. IT DOESN'T FIT OUR PID. I WANT YOU TO STAY AT THE TABLE IF WE VOTE NO ON THE PID. I SEE YOU BEING FREE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, GIVE OUR STAFF OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND OTHER WAYS TO HELP YOU GET THIS PROJECT DONE, SOME CONCESSIONS, SOME VARIATIONS, THAT SORT OF STUFF. YOU GOT A LOT INVESTED IN THIS. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN, BUT YOU'RE THE KIND OF DEVELOPER I HAVE WANTED AT THIS PODIUM TRYING TO WORK WITH US, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE WHETHER I'M HERE OR NOT. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND DOVETAIL OFF WHAT TED. STAN SAID THERE. I APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS. THE PROBLEM THAT NONE OF US CAN FIX IS THE FACT THAT THIS IS LIKE 18 ACRES. IT'S JUST, YOU DON'T SHOVE SO MUCH IN THERE. AND AS A POTENTIAL RESIDENT COMING IN TO BUY A PLACE, TO FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING NEARLY $400, $500 A MONTH IN EXTRA TAXES, THAT THEY BASICALLY GET NOTHING THAT SOMEBODY ACROSS THE STREET IS GETTING, THAT'S A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW. THERE'S GOT TO BE AN ANSWER. WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THIS. THERE'S GOT TO BE AN ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. I WISH I DID. BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THERE. I JUST DON'T SEE IT GETTING THERE. AND I DON'T WANT TO SET A STANDARD FOR ALLOWING THIS PIT AND THEN THE NEXT DEVELOPER WHO'S GOT 13 ACRES OVER HERE OR THERE'S 21 ACRES OVER THERE. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE STANDARD. I DON'T KNOW THE SOLUTION. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING IN HERE. I THINK WE'RE SO CLOSE. I MEAN, KIND OF, TO ME, I KNOW THIS IS A VERY SMALL 76 HOMES, 75 HOMES NOW WITH THE PARK, BUT WE ARE, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD WE DON'T HAVE, RIGHT, WITH THIS MANY DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS, AND THEN, UNFORTUNATELY, THE SAME NIGHT WE WANTED TO REVAMP OUR PID POLICIES, THE FIRST NIGHT YOU CAME HERE, SO YOU ARE HAVING TO SUFFER FROM THAT, AND, UM, THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND THE RESEARCH, AND I'VE TALKED TO BRITTON SEVERAL TIMES, AND HE LISTENED. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING, WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR? BUT THEN THE REST OF THE COUNCIL LOVED IT AT THE VERY FIRST MEETING. AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING, AND COUNCILMAN CHING, I GET. WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM WITH HOW DO WE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'VE ALL ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS. BUT I ALSO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE BUILDERS TO EDUCATE THE HOMEBUYERS. THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN OTHER CITIES AND MAYBE EVEN THIS CITY IN THE PAST, THEY'RE FINDING OUT ABOUT THE TURNS IN THE BIDS, WHENEVER THE TAX BILL COMES IN, WHATEVER THEY SHOULD BE FINDING OUT ABOUT. THERE'S AN ADVANCE FEES WHENEVER YOU BUY THE HOME. AND SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND THEY HAVE MET THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, TO ME. IT'S GOING TO STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA, IN THE BLOCK OF ANNA THAT IT'S IN. [01:30:02] BUT EVEN A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW IN ANNA, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST THE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS. THE REPUTATION THAT Y'ALL HAVE INCREASED, THE PITCHES OF THE ROOFS. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE HURRICANE CREEK HAS IT A LITTLE BIT WITH THE PITCHES. BUT NO OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THOSE TYPE OF PITCHES. IT BRINGS THOSE PITCHES LIKE ADDS SO MUCH. YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT. BUT AND JUST A DIFFERENT I'VE ALWAYS WHENEVER YOU FIRST Y'ALL FIRST STARTED COMING UP HERE AND I WAS ASKING FOR THE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS BECAUSE I'M IN AND I'VE ALWAYS I'VE BEEN I'M IT'S WEIRD, BUT I LOVE TUCKER HILLS AND MCKINNEY. THIS FOR MY THIS ISN'T EXACTLY TUCKER HILLS, BUT IT'S CLOSE. IT'S LIKE AN ANNA VERSION OF TUCKER HILLS, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL TOOK AWAY ONE OR TWO HOMES AND ADDED THE PLAYGROUND. AND THAT PLAYGROUND'S NICE. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING ELSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE I DON'T THINK THE ENTRANCE THING ARE WE REQUIRING IT TO BE 20 FOOT TALL? BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WEIRD. I THINK THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE POINT SYSTEM IS 15 FLOORS. I WOULD LOOK OVER HERE. THE ENTRANCE ALONE. AND THE DOUBLE WALL, THE ACTUAL BRICK WALL, THE NICE BRICK WALL. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A PART OF A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT I'VE LEARNED SOME BAD LESSONS FROM. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE HAD TO ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF BLAME TOWARD, AND I'VE TAKEN IT. BUT YOU LEARN. AND THE TREES, THEY'RE PLANTING, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE MORE WE CAN ASK FOR, BUT THEN ALSO, I DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE, I'M AFRAID, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A MUD, BUT IS THERE GOING TO BE ANOTHER CANVAS FOR FOSTER CROSSING AND LEONARD, YOU KNOW. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO CANVAS, THAT'S HOW CANVAS APPEARED, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST DIDN'T, THEY WEREN'T HAPPY, IT NEVER EVEN, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY NEVER EVEN MADE IT TO COUNCIL. STOPPED AT STAFF, AND THEN THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT RIGHT THERE. AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. I WANT TO SEE THESE NICE HOMES. AND ANOTHER THING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD AND IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY GIVES US CONTROL OF THAT IMPORTANT STRETCH OF FERGUSON. NOW WE HAVE THOSE OTHER TWO LITTLE PIECES. IF YOU GO OFF AND DO ANYTHING ELSE... WE LOSE CONTROL OF FERGUSON. SO, AND FERGUSON IS IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY, FOR ANOTHER NORTHWEST OR NORTH-SOUTH THIRD AREA. AND WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO HAVING TO BUILD FERGUSON FROM RIGHT HERE TO THE OUTER LOOP. SO, LIKE COUNCILMAN CARVER SAID, AND EVERYBODY SAID, THE RELATIONSHIP, THE RESEARCH, WE'RE NOT USED TO THAT. I'VE BEEN UP HERE EIGHT YEARS, AND I WANT TO JUST BE STRAIGHT UP. DEVELOPERS DON'T DO THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND WHY. YOU'RE NOT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU FIND YOUR BUILDERS, SO YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO PROMISE TO DO SOME PICTURES. BUT I HAVEN'T READ IT, BUT I'M SURE IT DOES. I JUST DON'T SEE YOU GOING AGAINST WHAT YOU PROMISED BECAUSE YOU PUT IN SO MUCH RESEARCH, UNLIKE ANYONE ELSE. BUT AND I JUST ASK THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF BRICK AND WE DON'T I NEVER WANT TO BUILD ANOTHER I WON'T NAME THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TOWN. I'LL NAME WHERE I BUILT IN PROVIDENCE VILLAGE. IT WAS ALL LAP SIDING, CONCRETE LAP SIDING. YOU KNOW RESORT OR COASTAL I FORGET WHAT THEY CALL THAT TYPE TYPE OF STYLE OR YOU KNOW IT'S CONCRETE BUT IT'S IT'S IT'S BRICK MIXED WITH SOME OF THAT 80 BRICK 90 BRICK 50 YOU KNOW WHATEVER KIND OF THROW IN A LITTLE BIT OF MIXTURE BECAUSE IT JUST ADDS THAT CHARACTER THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS IT JUST IT'S A SELLING POINT AND I YOU KNOW SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT, AND I HAVE BEEN, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE, IT'S JUST SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT GIVES US CONTROL OF FERGUSON. I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL BUILDING A PLAYGROUND FOR STAN, OR COUNCILMAN CARVER, I APOLOGIZE. BUT, AND JUST THE, YOU KNOW, THE... THE CONCRETE WALL, THE LIVING [01:35:02] WALL, AND EVERYTHING, I MEAN, YOU'VE KIND OF GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. AND, YOU KNOW, BUT I DO GET COUNCILMAN SEEN'S THING. AND TO BE HONEST, COUNCIL LADY HERNDON, WE DON'T LIKE RENTALS. AND IF THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, THEN IT'S ON THEM. AND IT'S ON THEIR HOA. AND, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER... AND I HAD TO READ A HOA PACKET WHENEVER I BOUGHT A HOUSE. RIGHT. SO IF SOMEONE BUYS IN THAT HOUSE, ARE WE GETTING INTO PEOPLE'S INFRINGING ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS? YES AND NO, BUT NOBODY OWNS THESE PROPERTIES YET, SO WE'RE KIND OF NOT. BUT AND THEY'RE GOING TO THEY WON'T BUY THE PROPERTY IF THEY DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA. SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT, AND SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THANK YOU. I'LL JUMP BACK IN HERE REAL QUICK. CAN YOU BRING UP THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE FINANCIALS TO MUD, TO NOT MUD? THIS ONE? YEAH, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. NOW I REALIZE THAT $8.9 MILLION LOOKS VERY FAVORABLE TO US. YEAH. IN A LOT OF WAYS IT IS. SO YOU AND I UP HERE ON THIS IN THIS FACILITY HAVE HAD A VERY HONEST CONVERSATION. RIGHT. IF WE WERE TO TABLE THIS VERSUS DENYING THIS, WHICH IS A POSSIBILITY, WOULD YOU WORK WITH OUR STAFF TO SEE IF WE CAN COME TO SOME KIND OF CONCLUSION TO GET YOU GUYS GOING, EVEN IF IT DID NOT INVOLVE A PIT? YEAH, YOU PUT ME ON THE SPOT, AND I APPRECIATE IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD WE WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY AGAINST THE TIME FRAME, AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT GOING AWAY. I APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL. IF Y'ALL HAD LIKE WHAT THAT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE THE ECONOMICS WITH NO PID VERSUS PID. BUT I'M LOOK, I'M IF WE COULD I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE MY PARTNER, BRITTON, WAY IN. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S A TOUGH CALL. YEAH. AND THIS ISN'T THE TIME TO PLAY POKER FOR EITHER OF US. MATTER OF FACT, COUNCILMAN TOTEN HAS BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT TONIGHT. YEAH. IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, IT DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT THEM. AND THE PATH FORWARD, JUST TO CLEAR SOME CONFUSION, IS NOT TO GO AND GET A MUD IF WE DON'T GET THE PIT. WE WOULD DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT'S A DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPE. BUT DO IT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. AND SO IF THIS DEAL DOESN'T WORK WITH THE PID, WHICH WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DECISION, THEN THE SECONDARY PATH IS AN ALTERNATIVE PRODUCT TYPE THAT'S EITHER HIGHER DENSITY OR A DIFFERENT USE THAT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS WITH NO ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL VEHICLE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO WHEN HE BROUGHT UP THE MUD, IT WAS MORE AROUND... A HUNDRED ACRES, LIKE A THEORETICAL HUNDRED ACRES, A MUD OR ANOTHER FINANCING VEHICLE DOESN'T WORK ON THIS SITE. THE PIT IS THE ONLY VEHICLE THAT WORKS ON THIS SITE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY. FOR, LET ME COME BACK TO THAT. ONE THING ON THIS RENDERING RIGHT HERE, SEE THE APARTMENT RENDERING? SEE ON THE LEFT HERE THE DETENTION AREA? THIS CAME WIRED, SO ON THE FIRST RENDERING FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM THAT THERE'S A DETENTION AREA? YES. AND NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE, THE DETENTION AREA HAS PRETTY MUCH APARTMENTS OVER IT. IS THAT AN OVERSIGHT, OR ARE YOU JUST COMPLETELY DELETING THAT RETENTION AREA? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE BUILDING A PARKING LOT OVER THE RETENTION AREA ON THE SECOND ONE. NO, THAT'S DETENTION. THAT'S A DETENTION AREA. ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THAT'S DETENTION. THEY'RE PULLING PARKING THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I FIGURED IT WAS JUST LIKE A RENDERING ISSUE. FOR LEGAL, WOULD THEY NOT NEED TO REQUEST ANY TYPE OF DE-ANNEXATION BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OH, YOU GUYS AREN'T IN THE CITY LIMITS? YEAH. OKAY, SO IT'S ETJ. SO EVEN TO, WOULDN'T THEY NEED PERMISSION TO REQUEST TO EXIT THE ETJ ANYWAYS? YEAH, SO, I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GOING UNDER THE RING OF ROSIE, RIGHT? CAN I GET THE ENGINEER UP HERE, PLEASE? ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. I WANTED TO CLARIFY AN IMPORTANT POINT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. [01:40:03] THANK YOU, SIR. SO IF THIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T GO FORWARD, IS THERE ANY RISK TO FERGUSON? NO. EVEN IF THEY GO THROUGH A PLATTING PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO HOLD BACK AMOUNT OF A CERTAIN AREA FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF FERGUSON. AS YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE BRINGING HERE IN THE NEXT MEETING OR TWO PLANS TO BEGIN THAT ACQUISITION OF THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE EASEMENT DOCUMENTS. SO THE COUNTY WILL STILL COME AND ASK US ABOUT IT AT THE CITY, AND WE WILL SAY THAT WE WILL NEED THAT AREA TO BE HELD BACK FOR THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY AT FERGUSON. SO WE MAY HAVE TO BUY IT INSTEAD OF IT BEING DEDICATED. ONE OTHER CLARIFICATION I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION IS NOT IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE. THE BUILDING OF FERGUSON WOULD BE IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE, BUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION WOULD NOT. PERFECT. THAT'S FANTASTIC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THIS DEAL GOES THROUGH, ONE OF THE BIG KEY PAIN POINTS FOR US IN THE CITY HAS BEEN SOME OF THE ARTERIAL ROADS, FERGUSON, ROSEMOND, AND REGARDLESS OF WHICHEVER WAY THAT THIS DECISION GOES, FERGUSON IS NOT AFFECTED. WE'RE STILL GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. THERE'S STILL OTHER OPTIONS FOR US, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN. YES, SIR. JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION. MAYBE THIS IS FOR CLARK, FOR THE ATTORNEY. ARE WE SETTING ANY KIND OF PRECEDENTS IF WE DO THIS? DOES IT FORCE US INTO ANY KIND OF CORNER OR SOMETHING ELSE COME DOWN THE ROAD? LEGALLY, NO. WE'RE NOT SETTING PRECEDENTS, NOT LEGALLY. COUNSEL LOOKS AT THESE DEALS ESSENTIALLY ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SITUATION WHERE THE ETJ LINE KIND OF TAKES THAT WEIRD TURN THERE, AND IT CREATED THIS SMALL 18-ACRE SLOT THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE THAT IT SHOULD BE IN THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT. I'M AFRAID IF WE APPROVE THIS ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE ELSE OUR ETJ MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, 10, 20-ACRE LOT THAT'S KIND OF THE SAME SITUATION. I JUST DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT. IF EVERYONE... IF EVERYONE'S, YOU KNOW, PUT OUT THEIR COMMENT HERE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. HANG ON. I'LL GO FOR IT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PID POLICY. SO WE'VE HEARD TWICE THAT THE PID POLICY STARTED WHEN THIS STARTED. WOULD THIS PASS THE OLD PID POLICY? NO, THIS DOES NOT PASS THE CURRENT. WE DON'T HAVE A NEW PID POLICY THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE YOU YET. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT BEING SAID, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IF I HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THAT IS TO DENY, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO THAT MOTION FAILS THREE TO FOUR. HOW ABOUT THIS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MAYBE TABLE THIS, GIVE STAFF A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, AND WE'LL GIVE IT ONE MORE ROUND. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I CAN GET A SECOND FOR A TABLE. I'LL SECOND THAT. HOW MUCH TIME? 30 DAYS. NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. WHAT DO YOU THINK FOR STAFF? 30 DAYS. DO YOU MIND IF WE ASK THE DEVELOPER? SURE, YEAH, IF THAT WORKS WITH THEIR TIMELINE. IS THAT AGREEABLE TO YOU? AND HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEED? IS THIS AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? SORRY, THE MOTION IS TO TABLE THIS TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? EITHER NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR WITHIN 30 DAYS. SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO GIVE YOUR STAFF... AND OUR STAFF TIME TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS VERSUS A DENIAL. YEAH. YES, WE'D BE OKAY MOTIONING IT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. I WOULD RECOMMEND FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE THAT WE MOVE IT TO THE 12TH OF MAY, NO EARLIER. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT [01:45:05] TO THE 12TH, IF I CAN GET A SECOND, IF THAT'S CORRECT. I'LL SECOND. THAT'S MAY 12TH. YES. THANK YOU. DID YOU WITHDRAW YOUR PREVIOUS MOTION? YES, IF I CAN WITHDRAW MY PREVIOUS MOTION, IF THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THE TABLE IS TO THE MAY 12TH MEETING. AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THAT PASSES 6-1. THAT'S TABLE TOOL 5-12-2026. ALL RIGHT, THAT TAKES US TO ITEM B. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER DISCUSSING AN ACT ON AN ORDINANCE REGARDING DISANNEXATION OF A 12.472 ACRE TRACT ZONED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LARGE LOT, SFE, AND A 21.613 ACRE TRACT ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT LOCAL COMMERCIAL, PDC 1, ANX 26-004. MR. CRINTNER. YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING REAL QUICK. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING AT 7.55 P.M. GO AHEAD, SIR. ALL RIGHT, YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKETS THE COMPLETE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS REQUEST FOR DISANNEXATION. AND IN THIS REQUEST, AS BEEN DESCRIBED, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 34 POINT... ACRES THAT IS BEING REQUESTED, TWO LOTS. THOSE ARE DESCRIBED IN DETAIL IN THE STAFF REPORT AND YOU HAVE THE ZONING. THIS IS THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO DIS-ANNEX THE 12.472 ACRE TRACT, WHICH IS SHOWN AS TRACT ONE AND A 21.613 ACRE TRACT TWO FROM THE CITY LIMITS. WE'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH AND GIVEN THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF STAFF TO MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND HE'S REQUESTED THIS DISANNEXATION. AND IT IS HIS INTENT TO ALSO HAVE HIS PROPERTY REMOVED FROM THE ETJ AS WELL AS PART OF HIS PROCESS. AS FAR AS STAFF, WE'RE UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS DISANNEXATION. JUST BECAUSE THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE HAVE ON LAND WITHIN THE CITY, AND WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR DIRECTION FROM THAT POINT IN ACTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. WE DO HAVE ONE CARD ON THIS ITEM, 7B, AND THAT'S BRAD NIBBLE. WHO WOULD COME ON UP, SIR, AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BRAD NEVILLE. I RESIDE AT 11637 COUNTY ROAD 509 IN ANNA, TEXAS. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD, SIR. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME THIS EVENING. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEN, MEN AND WOMEN, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING A THANKLESS TASK IN A LOT OF CASES. AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I'VE BEEN IN ANNA FOR FIVE DECADES. I GRADUATED FROM ANNA HIGH SCHOOL BACK WHEN KIDS RODE THEIR TRACTORS TO SCHOOL. AND THAT LITTLE BUILDING OVER BY THE TRACKS, I TOOK A GOVERNMENT CLASS AND A HISTORY CLASS AND WAS TAUGHT THAT GOVERNMENT EXISTS TO PROTECT AND SERVE AND HELP CITIZENS. AND THAT'S WHAT I NEED THIS EVENING IS SOME HELP. AND SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE QUICK VERSION OF THIS. BACK IN 2010, I HAD A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF ANNA. IN 2012, I PULLED A PERMIT FOR CONSTRUCTION ON A BUILDING WITH THE CITY OF ANNA. ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, I GOT A KNOCK ON MY DOOR FROM A COLLIN COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL. THE COLLIN COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL SAID, I NEED TO SEE YOUR BUILDING PERMIT AND YOUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. I SAID, OKAY, NO PROBLEM, COME WITH ME. I CAME AND I SHOWED HIM THE... CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT WAS ISSUED TO ME BY THE CITY OF ANNA AND THE BUILDING PERMIT, ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT I HAD WITH THE CITY OF ANNA. AND AT THAT POINT WAS INFORMED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL THAT I WAS NOT IN THE CITY OF ANNA'S JURISDICTION, THAT I WAS UNDER HIS JURISDICTION, AND THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND PERMITS WERE NOT VALID. THIS WAS NEWS TO ME. AT THAT POINT, I STARTED TRYING TO DEAL WITH... COLLIN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF ANNA TO GET THE ISSUES RESOLVED. LONG STORY SHORT IS THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF MY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT [01:50:01] DIDN'T GET ENFORCED. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE AGREEMENT AND THAT I WAS SOLD A PERMIT EVIDENTLY THAT ANNA SHOULD NOT HAVE ISSUED. WHEN ALL THAT CAME TO MY ATTENTION, I WAS DOING EVERYTHING I COULD TO TRY TO GET IT RESOLVED AMICABLY AND CAME AND VISITED WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY AND EXPLAINED MY SITUATION, SHOWED THEM MY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SHOWED THEM MY... MY PERMITS, MY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, AND I MET WITH GREG PETERS, WHO I UNDERSTAND IS NO LONGER HERE. NADIR WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS, AND LAUREN WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS. AND LET ME START BY SAYING THERE IS NO ONE THAT IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE CITY OF ANNA OR ANYONE THAT IS EMPLOYED BY THE CITY OF ANNA THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THESE MISTAKES. SO NOBODY HERE HAS GOT ANY SKIN IN THE GAME OTHER THAN ME. AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT RESOLVED. WE HAD TO PURCHASE NEW PERMITS FROM COLLIN COUNTY. LONG STORY SHORT, COLLIN COUNTY CAME OUT, CAME TO US WITH A LIST OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF STUFF THEY WANTED US TO DO TO GET CODE COMPLIANT BECAUSE THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE I SHOULD HAVE HAD UNDERNEATH THE CITY OF ANNA'S CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS NOT HONORED BY THE COUNTY. AND ULTIMATELY, IT COST TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. WE HAD TO SHUT DOWN A BUSINESS. AND I'M STILL IN LIMBO, QUITE HONESTLY. IF YOU GO ACROSS MY PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, YOU'LL WALK INTO THE CITY OF ANNA, OUT OF THE CITY OF ANNA, BACK INTO THE CITY OF ANNA, AND BACK OUT OF THE CITY OF ANNA. AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN THEY ANNEXED A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THEY ONLY ANNEXED A SMALL PORTION, NOT ALL OF IT. AND SO ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE PERMITTED AND INSPECTED BY THE CITY WERE ACTUALLY IN COLLIN COUNTY, NOT IN ANNA. SO WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESOLVE THIS. WE SAT DOWN AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT. AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, GREG WAS VERY HELPFUL, AND HE RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WERE SOME MISTAKES MADE. AND HE SAID, HOW DO YOU WANT US TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS? AND I SAID, WELL, LET'S EXPLORE OUR OPTIONS. AND HE SAID, WELL, WE CAN BRING YOU INTO THE CITY OF ANNA ALTOGETHER, OR WE CAN ANNEX YOU OUT OF THE CITY ALTOGETHER. LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE IS. AND SO, LONG STORY SHORT, WE CAME BACK PROBABLY ABOUT NINE MONTHS AGO AND SAID, HEY, I'D LIKE TO TAKE GREG UP ON HIS OFFER. IT LOOKS LIKE THE SIMPLEST THING FOR US TO DO HERE IS JUST TO REMOVE ALL THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY AND THE ETJ. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN RE-PERMITTED BY COLLIN COUNTY. WE'VE SHUT DOWN THE BUSINESS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO GET COMPLIANT WITH THE COUNTY RESTRICTIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY. ANNA DOESN'T PROVIDE US ANYTHING, NO SERVICES, NO ROADS, NO WATER, NO ELECTRICITY, NO INFRASTRUCTURE, NOTHING. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CLEAN THINGS UP SO THAT GOING FORWARD WE DON'T HAVE ALL THESE ISSUES. IT'S VERY HARD TO OPERATE AND LIVE ON A PROPERTY THAT A PORTION OF IT'S IN THE CITY, A PORTION OF IT'S IN THE COUNTY, AND IT'S JUST CREATING A MESS, QUITE HONESTLY, AN EXPENSIVE MESS. WHAT I'M REQUESTING IS THAT I CAN TAKE GREG UP ON HIS OFFER TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM AND JUST BE REMOVED FROM THE CITY AND THE ETJ, AND THEN THAT GETS THINGS CLEANED UP. THE REALITY OF IT IS THAT THE MISTAKE HAS COST ME WELL OVER $100,000 AND KILLED A BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY, AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT GOVERNMENT EXISTS FOR. I GOT TO A POINT TO WHERE I HAD TO SEEK COUNSEL JUST BECAUSE WE WERE RUNNING INTO WALLS. AND THE ATTORNEY EVALUATED THE THINGS, AND I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, AND I PREFER TO USE COMMON SENSE AND JUDGMENT AND JUST DO THE RIGHT THING. BUT THE ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, SAYS, LIKE, EVALUATED AND GOES, YEAH, THERE WERE SOME SERIOUS MISTAKES MADE HERE. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROTECTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS AS A CITIZEN, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THE CITY HAS, WHICH, YOU KNOW. I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TAX DOLLARS. AND LONG STORY SHORT, HE WAS LIKE, WE CAN PREVAIL IN THIS. AND HE CHARGES $995 PER HOUR, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHY. IT DOESN'T JUST ROUND IT UP TO AN EVEN THOUSAND. JUST MAKE IT SOUND PRETTY, RIGHT? LET'S JUST CALL IT A GRAND AN HOUR. AND HE'S LIKE, WE CAN PREVAIL IN THIS, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE 30 TO 50 HOURS. AND I WAS LIKE, THIS IS NOT GOOD USE OF MY RESOURCES. WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO SPEND $30,000 TO $50,000? TO GET BACK TO WHERE I WAS, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE TAXPAYERS IN ANNA TO HAVE TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF A LEGAL BATTLE. AND SO WHAT I'M ASKING TODAY IS THAT Y'ALL DO... [01:55:01] ALLOW ME TO LEAVE THE CITY LIMITS IN THE ETJ, WHICH WAS THE OFFER THAT GREG MADE TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND THEN WE JUST PUT THE REST OF IT BEHIND US. SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL, ANYTHING? ARE WE ABLE TO DO IT? OH, WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH, WE ARE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SORRY. I'M STILL IN THE MODE FROM THE LAST GUY, SO. ALL RIGHT, ANY COMMENTS, COUNSEL? THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THIS. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? I'D BE CURIOUS IF ANYTHING WAS PUT IN WRITING BY GREG, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ALL RIGHT NOW THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH THINGS LIKE THIS IN THE PAST. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S POTENTIALLY TWO MISSTEPS BY THE CITY BEFORE, ACCORDING TO THIS LANDOWNER, AND POSSIBLY WHAT GREG DID. SO I'M INCLINED TO LEAN TOWARDS THAT CITIZEN. WELL, THAT'S WHY I WANT A LITTLE MORE TIME TO LOOK INTO EVERYTHING, BECAUSE YOU KNOW ME. SIR, YOU'VE BEEN A FRIEND OF THIS COMMUNITY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP HERE, BRAD. OH, I'LL TRY TO SPEAK CLEARLY. I SAID, YOU'VE BEEN A FRIEND OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW YOU PERSONALLY, AND YOU DON'T DO POLITICS. I AM, I WAS VERY SURPRISED TO SEE THIS ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE I'VE NOT HEARD FROM YOU. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY FELLOW COUNCILMEN. AND I'M SORRY YOU'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS BECAUSE THIS ISN'T THE ONLY CHALLENGE YOU'VE HAD, NOT WITH THIS CITY NECESSARILY, BUT WITH OTHER GOVERNING ENTITIES OVER THE YEARS. THAT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME YOU TRY TO DO SOMETHING GOOD AROUND HERE, IT GETS SMACKED. SO I, TOO, WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT ALL THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO UNRAVEL. SOME TRUTH THAT WORKS OUT FAVORABLY FOR ALL PARTIES. IF YOU DON'T MIND GIVING US SOME TIME, THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION AS WELL. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'M ABOUT TO MAKE ONE. WELL, LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. YOU'VE GOT TO DO THAT. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST. EVERYBODY'S ALL RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8.07 P.M. CLARK, QUESTION. SHALL WE TABLE OR TAKE NO ACTION UNTIL WE GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO RESEARCH THIS? IT WOULD BE BEST TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL A DATE, TIME, PLACE CERTAIN, SO A FUTURE MEETING. OKAY. AND LOCATION. OKAY. WHEN'S THE LAST MEETING IN MAY? IS IT THE 24TH? 28TH. 28TH. OKAY, I MOTION. SORRY, I WAS LOOKING AT APRIL. 26. IT'S 28. IT'S 14 DAYS FROM TODAY. THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY. OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAY. I'M SORRY. I'M LOOKING AT APRIL. THAT'S WHAT SHE DID. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, DOES THAT GIVE STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO PULL THE 26? OKAY. KELLY, WHEN IS THE CANVASSING OF THE ELECTION? AND I'LL BE VERY HONEST. HOW I'M, WHY I'M ASKING THIS. WELL, THAT WOULD BE, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY HOURS, BUT IT WOULD BE BEFORE THAT MAY MEETING. BEFORE THE SECOND MAY MEETING, YEAH. WELL, YOU'RE, SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS YOU POTENTIALLY, I MEAN, THERE'S ONE SEAT FOR SURE, BUT YOU POTENTIALLY HAVE TWO NEW PEOPLE COME UP HERE WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS. I DON'T WANT TO PUT HIS RIGHTS AND THE CITY'S RIGHTS IN JEOPARDY BY PUTTING IT ON THAT AGENDA. SO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE... TO HAVE IT BEFORE THAT. I NEED TIME FOR RESEARCH. I AGREE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE A PROBLEM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WITH YOUR MOTION. I'M JUST PUTTING OUT THE FACTS. IF WE DO IT ON THAT NIGHT, YOU'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE POTENTIALLY COMING IN GREEN. SO, MS. NIBLETT, ARE WE PUSHING YOU TOO FAR OUT IF WE GO INTO THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE? WHAT IS YOUR TIME FRAME? WELL, QUITE HONESTLY, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ONE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF I HAD NO PLANS. I'VE RAISED MY FAMILY THERE. [02:00:02] I'VE MADE A LIVING THERE FOR DECADES. WE WERE APPROACHED BY A POTENTIAL BUYER AND EVERYTHING I GOT IS FOR SALE, RIGHT, EXCEPT MY WIFE AND KIDS. AND SO WE LISTEN WHEN WE GET APPROACHED. AND WE HAD AN OFFER THAT WE WERE GOING TO CONSIDER, AND IT WAS CONTINGENT ON ME GETTING OUT OF THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S A MESS. I MEAN, IT'S A COMPLETE MESS. AND I WAS, AT THAT TIME, TALKING TO THE POTENTIAL BUYER AND SAID, OH, I'VE GOT NO PROBLEMS. I'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD THAT IF I WANT TO LEAVE THE CITY, I CAN LEAVE THE CITY. AND I CAME UP HERE TO TALK TO GREG, AND HE WAS NO LONGER HERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, NADIR AND LAUREN WERE BOTH IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS WHERE THAT OFFER WAS MADE. SO THERE WAS NO WRITTEN AGREEMENT, BUT THERE WAS AN APOLOGY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, YEAH, WE SCREWED UP, AND HOW CAN WE HELP YOU FIX IT? AND SO I ANTICIPATED THAT WHEN I CAME IN, I WAS JUST GOING TO GO, HEY, I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU UP ON THAT OFFER, AND WE'D GET ON DOWN THE ROAD. BUT THEN THAT'S WHEN I... WASN'T GETTING RETURN PHONE CALLS OR EMAILS OR ANY PROGRESS BEING MADE. AND THAT'S WHEN I TRIED TO SEEK LEGAL COUNSEL AND THEN FOUND OUT, YEAH, YOU CAN WIN 50 GS INTO THIS. AND I WAS LIKE, THIS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. IT'S NOT GOOD USE OF MY RESOURCES OR THE CITY'S RESOURCES. IF IT'S JUST A COMMON SENSE DEAL, THEN LET'S GO TALK TO THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE WE WASTE ANYBODY'S TIME AND MONEY. OKAY, TO COUNCILMAN CARVER'S POINT. IF I POSTPONE THIS, IF I MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO, SAY, THE SECOND MEETING IN JUNE, SO THAT THE NEWLY ELECTED FOLKS CAN CATCH UP AND DO THE RESEARCH AS WELL, ARE YOU AMENABLE TO THAT? ABSOLUTELY. I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE FULLY EDUCATED ON THE DECISION, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL BEING, I MEAN, WE'RE 16 YEARS INTO THIS THING, SO WHAT'S ANOTHER COUPLE OF MONTHS, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE SECOND MEETING IN JUNE? IT'S THE 23RD. THANKS, BRAD. IT'S THE 23RD. TODAY'S THE 14TH. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING AND THE CANVASSING OF THE ELECTION IS MAY 12TH. THAT'S ALMOST A MONTH. YEAH, WE COULD DO JUNE 9TH. JUNE 9TH WOULD BE THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE. POTENTIALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO NEW PEOPLE. THEY HAVE TO BE ACCLIMATED. THAT'S WHY I SAY THE LAST MEETING IN JUNE. I WAS A NEWBIE FIRST TOO. SO ARE ALL OF US AT ONE POINT. THAT WILL GIVE EVERYBODY ENOUGH TIME, THE NEWLY ELECTED FOLKS, ENOUGH TIME TO GET THEIR FEET WET AND TO DO THE RESEARCH THEY NEED TO DO. SO I WILL MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE JUNE 23RD MEETING OF 2026 HERE AT CITY HALL, 6 P.M., 120 WEST 7TH STREET, ANATEXA, 75409. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. TAKES US TO ITEM C. CONSIDER DISCUSS ACT AND A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF BLUE STAR FLAG PROGRAM. MS. LAND. GOOD EVENING. WE HAVE THE BLUE STAR FLAG PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. THE BLUE STAR FLAG, WHOSE HISTORY DATES BACK TO WORLD WAR I, IS DISPLAYED IN THE FAMILY'S WINDOW WHEN A LOVED ONE IS CURRENTLY SERVING IN THE ARMED FORCES. BLUE STAR FLAGS WOULD BE PRESENTED AT THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING OF EACH MONTH. EACH FAMILY RECEIVES A BLUE STAR FLAG AND A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPATION. DURING THE PRESENTATION, FAMILY MEMBERS ARE PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MANY CHOOSING TO SEND MESSAGES TO THEIR LOVED ONES. MANY OF THE TROOPS HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET AND CAN PREVIEW THE PRESENTATIONS ON THE CITY WEBSITE. THE COSTS OF THE PROGRAM ARE MINIMAL SINCE THE BLUE STAR FLAGS CAN BE ORDERED IN LARGE QUANTITIES, RESULTING IN A COST OF LESS THAN $20 PER FLAG AND CERTIFICATE. THE BLUE FLAG PROGRAM ALLOWS THE CITY OF ANNA THE OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF OUR ARMED FORCES WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND WHEN THEIR LOVED ONES AREN'T DEPLOYED. THE BLUE STAR FLAG SYMBOLIZES THE SACRIFICE OF BOTH THE FAMILY AND THE SOLDIER. HELPING TO REMIND THOSE THAT PASS BY THEIR HOMES [02:05:01] OF THEIR SERVICE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. OVERALL, THE PROGRAM WILL HELP ENRICH THE PRIDE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS IN THE ANA COMMUNITY. ALTHOUGH THERE IS NO WAY TO MEASURE THE IMPACT ON THE ANNA COMMUNITY FROM THIS PROGRAM, IT IS HOPED THAT THE FAMILIES TOUCHED BY THE PROGRAM HAVE SENSED THE HEARTFELT PRIDE OF THE ANNA CITY COUNCIL, STAFF, AND NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMITMENT AND SACRIFICE THEY HAVE MADE FOR OUR COUNTRY. THANK YOU. THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY IMPACTFUL PROGRAM, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT AT ONE POINT IN MY LIFE, WE HAD A BLUE STAR FLAG FLYING IN OUR WINDOW FOR TWO YEARS. SO IT MEANS SOMETHING, AND IT MEANS SOMETHING TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH LOVED ONES THAT ARE SERVING THIS COUNTRY. SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF A NO-BRAINER, BUT I WANT TO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL AND GET YOUR OPINIONS AND TRY TO GET A VOTE ON IT IF WE CAN. I THINK IT'S A NO-BRAINER. I'VE SPENT NEARLY EIGHT YEARS OF MY LIFE AT SEA, AWAY FROM FAMILY. I'M 100% IN. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S JUST, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP FOR US, CHANGING HOW WE BUILD. I'M LOOKING FOR THE CORRECT WORDS. WE DON'T HAVE A VETERANS PARK. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT REALLY, THAT REALLY HONORS OUR VETERANS, OUR MEMBERS, OUR CURRENT MEMBERS, JUST ANYTHING. SO THIS FIRST STEP, IT'S LIKE A NO, IT'S A NO BRAINER. AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MAYBE. SOME KIND OF CELEBRATION, NOT ONCE A YEAR FOR THOSE THAT, IF THEY'RE STILL HOME OR NEARBY, OR IF THEY'RE NOT, JUST ONE KIND OF CELEBRATION. IT COULD BE SOMETHING UP HERE DURING A COUNCIL MEETING OR JUST SOMETHING THAT WE DO JUST TO CELEBRATE AND WE, YOU KNOW, REMIND EVERYBODY THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVING. GUYS, I LOVE THIS. YOU KNOW, IF I MAY, YOU KNOW. GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS, GOD BLESS OUR FAMILIES, AND OF COURSE, GOD BLESS AMERICA. YOU KNOW, MAYOR, I KNOW THIS IS A REAL PASSION PROJECT FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. ELDON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND, YOU KNOW, ANYONE ELSE IN THE CROWD AND THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. I THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANNA TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, REALLY SPECIAL FOR OUR RESIDENTS. I ALSO WANTED TO ADD, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WAY, ONCE THESE DEPLOYED INDIVIDUALS COME HOME, THAT IF WE AS A CITY COULD PUT OUT SOME TYPE OF NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTS TO SAY, HEY, THIS PERSON'S COMING HOME ON THIS DATE, SHOW UP, RIGHT? AND LET'S FILL THE STREETS WITH FLAGS AND LET'S SHOW OUR LOVE FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP. AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HEAR A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. SO I THINK WE'RE ALL ON BOARD. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M... OH, YEAH, GO AHEAD. YEAH. I'VE HAD THAT YELLOW RIBBON TIED AROUND MY TREE FOR A LONG TIME. IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE RECOGNIZE. I WON'T TALK ABOUT FUNDING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MUDDY IT, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OF OUR STAFF, I'M LOOKING AT OUR CITY MANAGER, I JUST HAVE AN IDEA THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THAT IF THERE'S A FUNDING MECHANISM, A WAY OF CELEBRATING, WHEN I SAY FUNDING MECHANISM, LIKE A FUNDRAISER OR WHATEVER TO PAY FOR THE FLAGS, I BET WE WOULD RAISE THAT MONEY. PROBABLY BEFORE THE END OF THE CONVERSATION OF VOTING ON IT. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT AFTER THIS VOTE, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY POSITIVE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT INTERNALLY WITH STAFF IS CREATING A MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S IN ITS INFANCY STAGES RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD... FIT THAT BILL PERFECTLY, THAT WE COULD SUPPORT LONG-TERM A BANNER PROGRAM, A WELCOME HOME PROGRAM, WHATEVER THAT MAY LOOK LIKE. I WOULD LOOK FOR COUNSEL TO DIRECT STAFF AGAIN TO FIGURE OUT THE LOGISTICS OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. DOES IT INCLUDE A YELLOW STAR PROGRAM? IS IT JUST A BLUE STAR PROGRAM? AND THEN COME BACK AND MAKE A PRESENTATION AT A FUTURE DATE OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. I'D LIKE TO TAG ON ONE MORE THING ON THAT. IF THERE'S A WAY TO, IN CHURCH WE HAVE A PRAYER WALL. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'D PUT THIS ON OUR CITY WEBSITE, BUT IF THERE WAS A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW WHO IS ACTIVELY SERVING OR AT LARGE, JUST FOR CONSIDERATION, I DON'T WANT TO INVADE SOMEONE'S PRIVACY FROM A GOVERNMENT STANDPOINT. BUT THIS I KNOW THAT WE CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO CELEBRATE IT WHENEVER THEY COME HOME. I KNOW WE'RE NOT NEW YORK CITY, WE DON'T HAVE SKYSCRAPERS TO DROP CONFETTI ALL OVER THE CITY, BUT MAN, SOME WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE HAD [02:10:01] TO SEE AND DO THAT THEY CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO SAY WELCOME HOME. SO THEY'RE GOING TO PICK UP A BLUE STAR, AND WE WOULD KNOW THAT WE MAY NOT SHARE THE ADDRESS, OR WE CAN, OR SOMEWHERE IN THE WEBSITE THAT HAS THE NAMES OF WHAT BRANCH THEY'RE IN, MAYBE WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND WE WOULD ASK THE NEIGHBORS, HEY, DO WE HAVE YOUR PERMISSION TO PUT YOUR NAME ON THE WEBSITE? IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE AN OPT-IN. POLICE SAYS WORK FROM THE CITY LIMIT TO HOME OR WHATEVER, YEAH. YEAH, AND I WOULD ASK THAT BEFORE ANYBODY MAKES MOTIONS, JUST BECAUSE OUR MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN BAKER SERVED, LET THEM MAKE THE MOTIONS. YEAH, BEFORE THAT, I KNOW YOU SAID WHAT'S THE GOLD STAR. SO I WANT TO DO THE GOLD STAR PROGRAM TOO. GOLD STAR IS A FAMILY MEMBER IN THE MILITARY THAT LOST THEIR LIFE. SO, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND I WOULD IMAGINE SOMEBODY AROUND HERE WOULD LOVE TO SPONSOR THIS. I DON'T THINK WE GOT TO DO THE CAR WASH. I BET WE CAN GET A SPONSOR PRETTY EASILY. MAKE SURE YOU PUT THAT IN YOUR MOTION FOR THE GOLD STAR. SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE IMPLEMENT THE BLUE STAR AND THE GOLD STAR PROGRAM. I'LL SECOND THAT. CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? I THINK TECHNICALLY IT'S ALL THE BLUE STAR PROGRAM, CORRECT? THE GOLD STAR IS PART OF THE BLUE STAR PROGRAM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IT IS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT IN OUR PROCESS THAT WE MAKE AN ALLOTMENT FOR THAT. AND MAYOR, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL ONCE THIS KIND OF TOUCHES EVERYBODY'S HEART? THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST ASKING ALSO. I WOULD LIKE TO DO AN ACTUAL ROLL CALL INSTEAD OF HITTING A BUTTON. OR MS. LAND, SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER TOTEN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BRYAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CARVER. ABSOLUTELY. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNDON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BAKER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SINGH. YES. MAYOR KANE. AYE. AYE'S HAVE IT. [8. Closed Session (Exceptions).] THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MY FAVORITE THING OF THE NIGHT, CLOSED SESSION. UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION. TO DISCUSS ANY ITEMS LISTED OR REFERENCED ON THIS AGENDA, UNDER THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.072, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.074, AND TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.087. MAKE A MOTION TO GO ON. OH, HANG ON. SORRY. OH, SORRY. IF I MAY, BEFORE EVERYONE LEAVES, CAN WE JUST GIVE ONE ROUND, A STANDING ROUND OF OVATION FOR CHIEF? JUST ONE MORE TIME. OH, YEAH. CHIEF, WE LOVE YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED RIGHT THERE, I CAN TELL. ONE LAST TIME, SIR. I MOVE WE GO INTO CLOSED. OKAY. SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD CAST YOUR VOTES, BECAUSE HE'S ON IT. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE IN CLOSED SESSION. ALL RIGHT, [9. Consider/Discuss/Action on any items listed on any agenda; executive session, regular meeting, or closed session that is duly posted by the City of Anna for any City Council meeting occurring on the same date as the meeting noticed in this agenda.        ] COUNCIL COMES OUT OF CLOSED SESSION AT 9.04 P.M. FOR THE RECORD, WE DID HAVE DIRECTION FOR STAFF COMING OUT OF THAT. THEY HAVE THEIR DIRECTION. AND THAT BEING SAID, SEEING NO OBJECTION, WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.