[h. Approve a Resolution of the City of Anna, Texas determining the costs of certain Authorized Improvements to be financed by the Sherley Tract Public Improvement District No. 2; approving a Preliminary Service Plan and Assessment Plan, including proposed Assessment Rolls; calling a regular meeting and noticing a Public Hearing for March 24, 2026 to consider an Ordinance Levying Assessments on property located within Improvement Area #2, Improvement area #3, and Improvement Area #4 of the Sherley Tract Public Improvement District no. 2; directing the filing of the proposed Assessment Rolls with the City Secretary to make available for public inspection; directing City staff to publish and mail notice of said Public Hearing; and resolving other matters incident and related thereto. (Director of Public Works Joseph Cotton)]

[j. Approve a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Anna, Texas Approving Fourth Amendment to Sherley Tract Subdivision Improvement Agreement. (Director of Public Works Joseph Cotton)]

WELL, FOR H AND J, I MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION. CAN WE DO...

WE NEED TO DO THEM SEPARATE, CLARK? WE CAN DO THEM TOGETHER? OKAY, I'LL SECOND IT.

COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON, NO MOTION AND SECONDED BY MAYOR PROCTOR, MR. TOTEN. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MOTION PASSES 6-0.

NEXT UP, ITEM

[6. Items For Individual Consideration and Public Hearings.]

FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IN PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THE TIME AND PLACE OF ANY PUBLIC HEARING HELD DURING THIS MEETING, ALL PERSONS WHO DESIRE. WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD IN OPPOSITION TO OR IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE, APPLICATION OR OTHER PROPOSED ITEM. A.

CONSIDER DISCUSSION ACTION ON RESOLUTION OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR A TAX INCREMENT.

REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER NINE, CITY OF ANNA, TEXAS, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE FINAL REINVESTMENT ZONE PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCING

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PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, JOSEPH COTTON. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS ONE IS THE FIRST OF TWO ACTIONS ON THIS. AT 520, Y'ALL TOOK ACTION, GIVING YOURSELVES THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE ACTION ON THESE TONIGHT. THE FIRST ONE IS THE RESOLUTION, AND THEN B WILL BE THE ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE CREATION OF THE TURS. I'M HERE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, AND SO IS OUR HILLTOP CONSULTANTS AND OUR LEGAL COUNSEL FOR BONDS IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

FOR CLARIFICATION, AND PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE OUT HERE WATCHING THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A TERS IS, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT? SO A TERS IS WHAT IS KNOWN AS A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE. I ALWAYS WANT TO CALL IT A RECLAMATION ZONE, BUT IT'S A REINVESTMENT ZONE.

SO, A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX THAT IS COLLECTED WILL BE USED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE AS DEFINED IN THAT TERS CREATION. THERE ARE VARIOUS TYPES OF TURKEYS THAT GO OVER COMMERCIAL. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY OVER THE SHIRLEY FARM AREA, WHICH IS BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND.

COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON WITH A MOTION. SECOND BY COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN CARVER, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. I'LL DO A ROLL CALL. YOU CAN CALL OUT.

I'LL VOTE YES. ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES 6-0. NEXT ITEM, B, CONSIDER DISCUSSED ACTION.

ON ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANNA, TEXAS, APPROVING A FINAL TAX INCREMENT. REINVESTMENT ZONE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN FOR THE REINVESTMENT ZONE, NUMBER 9, CITY OF ANNA, TEXAS. MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN IMMEDIATE EFFECTIVE DATE.

PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR JOSEPH COTTON. THANK YOU AGAIN. THIS ONE IS CREATING THE ORDINANCE REGARDING THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS IN PART OF A. SO IT'S JUST THE NEXT STEP IN THE CREATION OF THE TURS. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON-WIDROW. MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES 6-0. HAVE YOU SEEN ALL THIS READING? NUMBER C, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE A TESTIMONY.

ON THE PROPOSED LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS ON PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE OF THE SHIRLEY FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, PERSON TO CHAPTER 372 TEXAS LAW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, JOSEPH COTTON. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS IS THE FIRST OF A FEW ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN TONIGHT. IF YOU REMEMBER, FOR THE PREVIOUS COUPLE OF MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CREATING A PID. A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OVER THE SHIRLEY FARM AREA. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS CALLED FOR DURING THE LAST MEETING IN ORDER TO SORT OF BEGIN THAT FINAL STEPS OF THAT PROCESS. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 618. DO I HAVE ANY? OH, IT IS 621. HERE I AM. MY PHONE IS FAST, SO I'M GOING BY MY PHONE. MY BAD. 621. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS? I DON'T THINK THIS IS ANY. ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? NO? THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 621. NUMBER D.

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THERE'S NO ACTION. CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANATEXAS, ACCEPTING AND APPROVING A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR AN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE OF THE SHIRLEY FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT MAKING A FINDING OF SPECIAL BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTY IN THE DISTRICT, LEVELING, LEVYING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AGAINST PROPERTY WITHIN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE OF THE DISTRICT AND ESTABLISHING ESTABLISHING A A LIEN ON SUCH PROPERTY. PROVIDING FOR THE METHOD OF ASSESSMENT AND PAYMENT OF THE ASSESSMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHAPTER 372 TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AS AMENDED, PROVIDING PENALTIES AND INTEREST AND DELINQUENT ASSESSMENT, PROVIDING FOR THE SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, JOSEPH COTTON. I SWEAR I ONLY HAVE ONE MORE AFTER THIS ONE. THIS IS THE ORDINANCE, NOW THAT WE'VE HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARING. WHICH WAS CALLED FOR. THIS IS THE ORDINANCE CREATING THE ABILITY TO LEVY THOSE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ON THE PROPERTY IN THE COMING YEARS AS PART OF THE PID. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS BY COUNSEL? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND.

COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON WITH HER MOTION, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES 6-0.

SORRY, I'M DOING LIKE FIVE THINGS. IS THIS YOUR LAST ONE, JOSEPH? THIS IS MY LAST ONE, YES, SIR. E, CONSIDER, DISCUSS. ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITY OF ANNA, TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2026, SHIRLEY FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 1 PROJECT.

IN A PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $35 MILLION PAYABLE FROM SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS TO FUND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 1 OF THE SHIRLEY FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING AN INDENTURE OF TRUST, A BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT, A LIMITED OFFERING MEMORANDUM, I'LL GET IN A MINUTE, SORRY, I APOLOGIZE, A CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, A CONSTRUCTION FUNDING AND ACQUISITION AGREEMENT, AND OTHER AGREEMENTS AND DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH, MAKING FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH BONDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, JOSEPH COTTON. THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR, PRO TEM TOTEN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS IS THE FINAL ACTION TONIGHT FOR THE SHIRLEY FARM. PID, SETTING THE ACTUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED AND THE OTHER ITEMS AS DESCRIBED. HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND SO ARE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR CONCERNS? I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR COUNCIL, OUR BOTTOM COUNCIL, FOR ALL THE PREPARATION YOU DO.

IT'S BEEN MANY HOURS BEHIND THE SCENES REVIEWING ALL OF THIS WITH THEM, AND IT'S VERY EMPOWERING. SO I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE.

WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARVER, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, JOSEPH. F, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER OR DISCUSS ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE. ESTABLISHING ZONING ON A 2.4 ACRE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF LEONARD AVENUE, 805 FEET NORTH OF EAST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD, TO LOCAL COMMERCIAL C1.

WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OF A DAYCARE SCHOOL. ZONE 25-0004. S.U.P. 26-0001, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, CALEB. KETTNER. IS IT KETTNER? YES, YOU GOT IT.

MAYOR, PRO, TEM AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKETS A COMPLETE STAFF REPORT. JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND, REFRESHER, A REMINDER ON THIS. THIS IS A, THE ZONING

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CAME BEFORE YOU AND WAS REQUESTED BY THE COUNCIL THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT COME FORWARD WITH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

AND SO THE APPLICANTS WENT BACK, PUT THEIR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

TOGETHER TOOK IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IS NOW BACK BEFORE YOU FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. NOW, WITH A COMPLETE PACKET FOR THE ZONING AND THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ALONG WITH IT. THIS DID GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHERE IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL FOR BOTH THE ZONING AND THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AND IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6.27 P.M. DO I HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NOPE. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6.27 P.M.

NOW WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, THEY ARE HERE. I'D LIKE TO SEE A RENDERING OR WHAT INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE ON IT. THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, PRO TEM, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JUAN VASQUEZ, WITH VASQUEZ ENGINEERING. I'M REPRESENTING... THE PROPERTY OWNER AND ALSO THE DEVELOPER AS WELL. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR SLIDE PLAN HERE ON THE SCREEN, THE CHILD CARE CENTER WILL BE LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL LEAVE A SMALL REMAINDER FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

IN THE FUTURE, WHICH WOULD BE, I KNOW. AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT WHAT COULD BE GOING NEXT TO THE CHILD CARE ONCE IT'S IN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A PRETTY SMALL AREA, AND BASED ON ITS LOCATION, SIZE, WE ANTICIPATE THAT FUTURE PAD BEING SOME TYPE OF SERVICE OFFICE, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. IT'S TOO SMALL FOR RETAIL, IT'S TOO SMALL FOR RESTAURANTS, SO IT'S GOING TO BE DOCTOR'S OFFICE, LAWYER'S OFFICE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'LL GO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHILD CARE CENTER.

WHAT ARE THESE GOING TO LOOK LIKE? AS FAR AS WHAT THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, IT'S GOING TO FOLLOW WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR YOUR CODE. WE'RE NOT AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE YET.

WE'RE ALREADY AT THE SUP, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ELEVATIONS OR RENDERINGS AT THIS TIME, BUT IT'LL MEET WHATEVER ZONING CODES OR BUILDING CODES WE HAVE TO MEET. THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ONLY ONE POINT OF ACCESS AND DEGRESS, WHATEVER THOSE TERMS ARE? YOU MEAN, INTO THE SITE? YEAH, INTO THE SITE. I SEE THE ONE.

WE HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS. WHERE'S THE OTHER ONE? THERE'S ONE AT THE MEETING OPENING AND ONE AT THE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DRIVEWAYS OR BUILDING. INJURY, SIR? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT DRIVEWAYS. YEAH, WE HAVE ONE. OH, OKAY. YEAH, WE HAVE TWO THERE. WE HAVE A FULL SERVICE AND A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. I CAN TELL YOU, FROM TALKING TO A FEW NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN ANATOLE SQUARE, AS MUCH AS THIS MAKES SENSE, NEXT TO A SCHOOL, AND IT'S THE LAST PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THAT AREA THAT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED. IT'S ANOTHER COMMERCIAL PIECE, AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. EVEN THOUGH THE DAYCARE MAKES SENSE, OR THE NEED IS THERE AS WELL.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT NEIGHBORS, IT'S WEIRD, THEY'RE NOT HERE, BUT MAYBE THEY'VE JUST GIVEN UP. BUT I'M JUST SAYING, I KNOW SOME OF THEM JUST...

THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER DAYCARE AND MORE COMMERCIAL WITH WHAT THEY HAVE GOING ON RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S JUST BAD TIMING FOR ME PERSONALLY.

THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, FOR COMING OUT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US SOMETHING THAT ISN'T MULTIFAMILY. I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD START. YEAH, IT WON'T FIT. IT WON'T FIT. SO, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN I ASK STAFF FOR A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S OKAY? PLEASE AND THANK YOU. SO, TO CONFIRM, THIS ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW ANY TYPE OF MULTIFAMILY, EVEN THOUGH THE LOT'S TOO SMALL. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND IS THERE A TIMELINE IN EFFECT ANYWHERE

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IN THE CONTRACT THAT IT'S GOING TO GO VERTICAL OR BE COMPLETE IN 12 MONTHS, 18 MONTHS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC TIMELINE OUTLINED IN THAT. AS PART OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING YOU COULD REQUEST. AND THEN, TO COUNCILMAN TOTEN'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SCHOOL THERE, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES IN AND OUT. CAN WE, HAVE YOU GUYS TAKEN ANY ESTIMATES, OR WHAT TYPE OF DUE DILIGENCE HAVE WE DONE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT? LEONARD, WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THE PROBLEM ON LEONARD? WITH THE CONGESTION, WITH THE SCHOOL AND ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE MOVING IN AND OUT OF THERE? WELL, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FORMAL SITE PLAN PROCESS WHERE WE WILL. THE CITY ENGINEER WILL REVIEW OVER IN DETAIL THEIR TRAFFIC SITUATIONS THAT WILL GO THERE AS WELL. AND REMIND ME AGAIN, HOW BIG IS THIS LOT? YEAH, 2.4 ACRES. SO 2.4 ACRES.

WHAT IS IT CURRENTLY ZONED FOR? I BELIEVE THE CURRENT ZONING IS AGRICULTURE. SO IS THERE, SO JUST... I'M JUST KIND OF THROWING THIS OUT THERE FOR THE RESIDENTS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD TECHNICALLY GO THERE WITHIN THAT SPACE? YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A PAIN POINT THERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT EVERY OTHER AVENUE FIRST. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE POSSIBLE USES THERE, ESPECIALLY BASED ON A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH RESIDENTS BEING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THINGS LIKE THIS, OFFICE USES, AS DESCRIBED BY THE APPLICANT IN A DAYCARE, IS PROBABLY THE BEST USES THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY HAVE NEXT DOOR TO RESIDENTS BESIDES RESIDENTS.

OKAY. AND THEN FOR THE AREA THAT HE SPECIFICALLY SAID, THAT WAS A FUTURE POD, APPROXIMATELY HOW BIG IS THAT? THAT YOU CAN SEE THEIR BUILDING THAT THEY SHOW ON, THERE IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A BUILDING THAT WOULD BE HALF THAT SIZE TO FIT IN THERE AND HAVE PARKING. SO IT WOULD BE A VERY SMALL BUILDING. IT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS AS WELL TO ENSURE THAT IT FITS AND MEETS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND ANY... ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT MAY OCCUR BY ADDING ANOTHER BUILDING THERE.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, IT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. SO ANOTHER QUESTION, THIS DOES NOT BACK UP TO ANY HOMES, DOES IT? BECAUSE I THINK THE OTHER MAP, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE, I THINK IT WAS. YEAH, REALLY, YOU'RE BOUNDED BY THE SCHOOL ON TWO SIDES, AND YOU HAVE THE OUTSIDE, THE MULTIFAMILY THAT'S IN THE ETJ.

ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SO THERE'S ONLY RESIDENTIAL, LIKE, REALLY ACROSS THE STREET. I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE ON THIS, YOU KNOW? UM, THE NEIGHBORS IN ANNATOWN SQUARE HAVE HAD A REALLY HARD TIME. UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT BE A PARK OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF AMENITY FOR THEM. UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T BRING IN SO MUCH TRAFFIC, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND IT'S REALLY ONLY TWO ACRES. IT GOES OFF. LEONARD.

IT DOESN'T BACK UP TO ANY HOMES, YOU KNOW, SO I'M OPEN TO ANYONE ON COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, ANY CONCERNS, QUESTIONS ON THIS.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE OTHER PAD SITE. SINCE ANNA'S KIND OF KNOWN FOR PAD SITES STAYING EMPTY FOR A WHILE AND OVERGROWN, WHO WILL, YOU'RE JUST DOING THE DAYCARE, CORRECT? YOU CAN COME BACK. THEY'RE GOING TO OWN THE WHOLE PARCEL.

THEY'RE GOING TO OWN THE WHOLE PARCEL. AND THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE WHOLE PARCEL JUST AS IF IT WERE FULLY DEVELOPED.

SO THAT EXISTING PAD, OR THE FUTURE PAD WILL BE GRASS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINED UNTIL IT'S BUILT? THAT'S CORRECT, BECAUSE THE ROAD THAT YOU SEE ON THE SITE PLAN IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD AT THE SAME TIME, AND SO ALL OF THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE MAINTAINED. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE COULD GO THERE. LEVY LESS TRAFFIC, RIGHT? AND IT MAKES SENSE TO STICK TO SCHOOL. YEAH, TO COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYING WE'VE PREPARED A TRAFFIC STUDY ALREADY ON THE SITE.

WITH A DAYCARE OR CHILD CARE, LIKE WE CALL IT CHILD CARE, AND AN OFFICE BUILDING THERE.

WE RAN THE NUMBERS. THERE'S A LITTLE THRESHOLD. OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT REQUIRES CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO THE TRAFFIC IS NOT AS GREAT AS IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS SOME TYPE OF RETAIL OR RESTAURANT AND STUFF.

SO THE NUMBERS ARE FINE. WE

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STUDIED AND WE SUBMITTED THAT TO THE CITY AS WELL, AND I'M SURE THAT ENGINEERING WILL GO OVER THOSE AGAIN WHEN WE DO THE SITE PLAN PROCESS. BUT BASED ON OUR TIA, THE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, DON'T REQUIRE ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO LEONARD. UM, QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT'S THE APPROXIMATE OCCUPANCY FOR THIS DAYCARE? SO, THEIR SWEET SPOT'S ABOUT 165 CHILDREN. THE MAX THEY CAN FIT IN THE BUILDING IS ABOUT 193, BUT THEY DON'T THINK THEY'LL HIT THAT NUMBER. SO, ESSENTIALLY, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THERE'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST 163 TO 193 CARS THERE FOR PICKUP AND DROP-OFF.

AT CERTAIN TIMES. NOT EVERYBODY COMES AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, OF COURSE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT AGES, DIFFERENT DROP-OFFS, TIMES, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

YEAH. YEP. YEAH. AND WE STUDIED OUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, STUDIED THE PEAK HOUR AND STUFF, AND IT FALLS BELOW THE CITY'S THRESHOLD.

CAN YOU REMIND THE PUBLIC WHAT THAT THRESHOLD IS? THE THRESHOLD, I BELIEVE, JOSEPH'S STILL HERE? I THINK IT'S 67 CARS IN THE PEAK HOUR, AND I THINK WE'RE BELOW THAT FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF A TURN LANE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DIESEL LANES FOR THE...

DIESEL, OUR TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT SUPPORT... OR REQUIRE THE NEED OF A DECEL LANE BASED OFF THE CITY'S THRESHOLD REQUIREMENTS.

FOR THE PEAK HOUR, WE WILL BE CONSTRUCTING A LEFT TURN LANE ON LEONARD TO TURN LEFT INTO THE SITE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE MEDIAN OPENING IS THERE TODAY, BUT THE TURN LANE IS NOT. SO WE'LL BE ACCEPTING THAT COST FOR THE TURN LANE. AND AS FAR AS ANSWERING THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE REMAINING PAD, OUR CLIENT IS BUYING THE ENTIRE 2.4 ACRES. HE'S DEVELOPING THE DAYCARE, CHILDCARE, AND HE'S RETAINING OWNERSHIP OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, AND THEN EVENTUALLY HE'LL TRY AND DEVELOP THE NORTHERN PORTION THERE FOR SOME TYPE OF OFFICE IN THE FUTURE. SO HE'LL HAVE CONTROL OVER THE ENTIRE PROPERTIES TO EASE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND CO-COMPLIANCE AND ALL THAT. ARE YOU WILLING TO POSSIBLY PUT A TIMELINE ON THAT FUTURE PAD, SAY, 24 MONTHS? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

MY CLIENT. PARDON? I'LL GIVE THAT TO MY CLIENT. CAN YOU COME UP HERE FOR A SECOND? YEAH, JUST FOR THE RECORD. IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST FOR THE RECORD. AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IF YOU DON'T MIND. ROBERT PARRISH, 1001 HIDDEN OAKS COURT IN COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS, REPRESENTING HBC INTEREST, THE DEVELOPER. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A SERVICE-ORIENTED. I'D LIKE TO THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST. 12 MONTHS OR SO, BUT A DENTAL OFFICE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IS OUR AGENDA.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALDEN. I APPRECIATE YOU. WHAT IS YOUR COMPLETION DATE FOR THE DAYCARE? PARDON? WHAT DO YOU ESTIMATE YOUR COMPLETION DATE TO BE ON THE DAYCARE? I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. THE COMPLETION DATE? WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE OPEN, READY TO GO? OH, WELL...

AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH THE PROCESS, THIS IS JUST REALLY STARTING THE PROCESS. SO, HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS AND THE SITE PLAN, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, I WOULD THINK PROBABLY WITHIN 14 MONTHS. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE CONTRACT FOR A TIMELINE? YEAH, JUST REQUIRE IT. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE OPEN TO IN THE AGREEMENT? THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TERMS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO VERTICAL AND AT LEAST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 15 MONTHS? THE AGREEMENT ON TIMING IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION, RIGHT, IS HISTORICALLY, AND TIM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

HERE, THERE'S BEEN HISTORY OF PEOPLE COMING WITH, YOU KNOW, A GREAT DESIGN AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GETTING APPROVALS AND THEN EITHER SITTING ON IT OR FLIPPING IT. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, ANY THOUGHTS FROM THE TEAM ON THIS? WELL, IT'S NOT JUST SITTING ON A SPLIT. IT'S JUST LIKE A CONCRETE PAD, WITH PLUMBING STICKING OUT OF THE GROUND FOR MONTHS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE HAVING TO SUFFER FROM THAT FOR SOMEONE ELSE. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YOU'RE REFERRING, YEAH. YEAH. NO, I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. I MEAN, WE JUST WANT TO SEE SOME KIND OF MOVEMENT, RIGHT? WE JUST WANT TO KEEP THE MOVEMENT. MAYBE NOT A HARD DEADLINE, BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING IT ON YOUR SPOT RIGHT NOW.

BUT I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR ME. A MOVEMENT LIKE, WE WANT SOMETHING IN WRITING, SIX MONTHS I'M GOING TO HAVE THIS DONE, TWELVE MONTHS I'M GOING TO HAVE THIS DONE. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WELL, I NEED YOUR HELP, TOO, SO. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THAT PROCESS. IF YOU'RE WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE, I'M SURE WE'RE ALL WILLING TO ALSO COME TO THE TABLE.

IT'S JUST WE'VE BEEN BITTEN A LOT. IF I MAY, JUST

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TO HELP YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WITH THE SPECIFICITY PERMIT, I WOULD RECOMMEND INSTEAD OF AN OPEN DATE, BECAUSE THAT CAN BE HARD WITH MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IS AS STATED. IF IT'S 14 MONTHS. WELL, MAYBE IN THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, PERMIT TIMELINE, STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU GUYS WOULD, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD THAT, THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ON THERE, THAT IT WOULD BE, THAT CONSTRUCTION WOULD COMMENCE WITHIN 14 MONTHS, WHICH WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME TO GET THROUGH OUR PROCESSES. OUR PROCESSES ARE GOING TO BE LESS THAN 30 DAYS, DEPENDING ON THEIR DESIGN PROFESSIONALS.

THE REST OF THE TIME IS THEIR TIME. AND SO 14 MONTHS TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS AND THEN 18 MONTHS TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION UNDER THAT TIME FRAME. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE MAY BE DELAYS WITH MATERIALS AND OTHER THINGS THAT SOMETIMES ARE OUT OF THEIR CONTROL.

BUT HAVING A START DATE AT 14 MONTHS AND THEN GOING FROM THAT POINT AS FAR AS PART OF YOUR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

GIVES THEM PLENTY OF TIME.

TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

WOULD Y'ALL BE OKAY IF WE LEAVE IT, FOR EXAMPLE, AT 14 MONTHS, WITH THE OPTION TO PROVIDE A THREE- TO SIX-MONTH EXTENSION IF ABSOLUTELY NEEDED? IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO, CALEB? I'D BE OPEN TO DIALOGUE ON THE 14-MONTH START TIME.

ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH THAT? HOW DOES THAT SOUND TO YOU, GUYS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I ACTUALLY HAVE A MOTION. OH, WOW, OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND ME, I'VE STILL GOT SOME COMMENTS.

BEFORE YOU DO YOUR MOTION, I'VE GOT SOME COMMENTS. JUST RUNNING THE MATH ON THIS, ONE, ANNATOWN SQUARE ALREADY HAS A DAYCARE CENTER, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S OVERFLOWING. AND JUST OBSERVING ALL OF OUR DAYCARE CENTERS, I'M NOT SEEING ANY DATA THAT SHOWS THAT WE NEED MORE. IF THIS WAS NEXT TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I COULD SEE MORE, JUST...

THERE'S NO CLASSIFICATION FOR IT, BUT THIS IS NEXT TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE PRACTICE FIELD. AND SO, WHAT ARE YOU POINTING OUT? IT IS NEXT TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IS THAT THE ELEMENTARY? DO WE HAVE AN OCCUPANCY PERCENTAGE FOR THE DAYCARE? YEAH, BUT RIGHT THERE, IN THE MIDDLE ELEMENTARY.

WHICH IS NOT RIGHT NEXT TO IT. YOU CAN THROW A ROCK AND HIT IT. I'M LOOKING AT THE SAME MAP YOU'RE LOOKING AT. WHAT I AM SEEING IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU CAN GO CLICHE AND THROW A DAYCARE THERE AND HOPE FOR THE BEST, AND THEN TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE OTHER PAD.

BUT YOU'RE SHOWING 10,000 SQUARE FEET, A LOT OF FUTURE EXPANSION. THERE'S ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, JUST...

ROUGH COUNT, MAYBE 30-SOMETHING PARKING SPACES ALREADY ASSIGNED. THERE IS ROOM TO BUILD. THERE IS ROOM TO PUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A YOUTH CENTER, ALLOW FOR A COMPLIMENTARY FOOD SERVICES.

I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF CONVENIENCE STORES, BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK YOU SHOULD TRY IT.

HURT, BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE A LOT BETTER PRODUCT. THERE'S ROOM TO DO MORE THAN JUST A DAYCARE ON HERE. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DAYCARE. AND I HADN'T HEARD ANYBODY IN ANATON SQUARE TELL ME THAT THEY NEED ONE. UM, CAN I ASK, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE OCCUPANCY PERCENTAGE IS OF THE DAYCARE THAT'S ALREADY BUILT STAFF, OR DO WE APPROXIMATELY KNOW THAT? I MAY BE JUST KIND OF SHOOTING OUT THERE, IT'S OKAY IF WE DON'T. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THOSE STATISTICS.

I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THOSE STATISTICS AVAILABLE. OKAY, THAT'S TRUE. I DON'T. I CAN DO SOME RESEARCH TO SEE IF WE CAN DETERMINE THAT. I DON'T KNOW READILY AVAILABLE WHAT WOULD ALLOW US TO FIND THAT OUT, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY RESEARCH IT.

YEAH, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T TODAY, BUT JUST MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, IF WE COULD SEE WHAT THE OCCUPANCY IS OF ALL THE DAYCARES THAT HAVE BEEN OPENED, JUST TO SEE ARE THEY RUNNING 50%, 60%, IT'LL JUST HELP US MAKE A BETTER DECISION. AND I ALSO SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE. YES. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. YES. MY NAME IS CATHERINE MCNAMEE. AS I SAID AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WE WERE HERE BEFORE, IN A TOWN SQUARE. THERE WERE FOUR PEOPLE ON MY ROAD,

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AND IT WASN'T CALLED LEONARD.

AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A FOOTBALL FIELD IN MY BACKYARD. I CAN THROW THE FOOTBALL INTO THE FOOTBALL FIELD FROM MY BACKYARD. I'VE SAT IN MY BACKYARD AND WATCHED MY GRANDSON PLAY. SO. I HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY MANY DEVELOPERS AND THEY WANTED TO PUT TINY HOMES ON MY LAND.

THEY WANTED TO DO PUBLIC STORAGE ON MY LAND. THEY WANTED TO BUILD A GAS STATION ON MY LAND. AND WHEN THESE PEOPLE APPROACHED, I FELT LIKE... THIS IS GOLDEN.

I HAVE 15 GRANDCHILDREN, AND I CALLED MYSELF ALL THE DAYCARES IN ANNA. AND THIS IS NOT WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. THIS WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO. EVERY ONE OF THEM HAD A WAITING LIST. I COULDN'T GET MY TWO GRANDBABIES THAT LIVED WITH ME AT THE TIME INTO A DAYCARE IN ANNA. SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS... GOLDEN.

IT'S NOT SOME MASSIVE BUILDING.

IT'S A BUNCH OF BABIES LOOKING AT THE BIG KIDS IN THE FOOTBALL FIELD BEHIND THEM. AND THAT WAS THE CHARM IN ALL OF THIS FOR ME.

THEY HAVE THIS EXTRA ROOM AS A BONUS. WE'VE ALREADY HAD A DENTIST ASKING ABOUT IT.

THAT'S A VERY SMALL OFFICE.

THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE TRAFFIC STUDY, AND I WATCH THE TRAFFIC EVERY MORNING. THE ANNA RANCH PHASE 2 FENCE IS NOW BLOCKING MY BEAUTIFUL SUNRISE THAT I SEE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND TODAY I COULDN'T SEE IT AND WE GOT TO GO. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IF Y'ALL COULD HELP THEM MOVE THIS ALONG. IF YOU COULD, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, MA'AM, I TRULY APPRECIATE YOU KIND OF GIVING US THAT CONTEXT. I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE WOULD AGREE THAT PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO RESPECT THE LANDOWNER.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO OVERRIDE YOU AT ALL. I THINK WE MAY, LET ME ASK THIS. SINCE YOU GUYS SAID THAT YOU HAD A DENTIST APPROACH, CAN YOU GET A LETTER OF INTENT AND COME BACK TO US? SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE A DENTIST, IT'S GOING TO BE DAYCARE, FULL PICTURE. I MEAN, I AM GOING TO SPEAK FROM MY HEART. I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE PUNISHING THESE PEOPLE FOR SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS DONE, AND THIS IS NOT FAIR. I BELIEVE IF THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AND THEY DON'T DO IT, THEN YOU GUYS HAVE TO SAY, NO, YOU'RE NOT, IN MY OPINION. BUT I AM ONE THAT FOLLOWS THE RULES. AND I BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD FOLLOW THE RULES. DOES EVERYBODY FOLLOW THE RULES? BUT WHATEVER HAPPENED IN ANTITOWN SQUARE SHOULD HAVE NO BEARING ON US, IN MY OPINION.

CLARK, CAN WE, IN OUR MOTION, WHOEVER MAKES IT, CAN WE SAY SOMETHING THAT WE ONLY WANT TO ALLOW MEDICAL OFFICES IN THAT FUTURE BUILDING? YES, IT'S AN SUP, SO CONDITIONS CAN BE PLACED ON IT. THE SUP IS FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY OR JUST THE DAYCARE? WELL, YOU CAN SPECIFY WHICH AREAS WITHIN THE PROPERTY CAN BE USED AND PLACE LIMITATIONS ON THAT. THAT MIGHT HELP YOU WITH YOUR MOTION.

YEAH. I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING, AND I'M TRYING TO. YEAH. I WANT TO TRY TO GET CLARITY. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. IF YOU CAN GET A LETTER OF INTENT, JUST SOMETHING THAT SAYS, YES, IT'S GOING TO BE A DENTIST, IF YOU CAN'T GET THAT. MAYBE WE CAN LEAVE IT LIKE, HEY, MAYBE THERE'S A BANK, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST DOING SOMETHING OUT THERE, MAYBE THERE'S JUST... NO, WE CAN MAKE IT WHERE IT HAS TO BE A MEDICAL OFFICE. OKAY, YEAH, I MEAN, I'D PREFER THAT.

IN YOUR MOTION, YOU CAN MAKE THAT, BECAUSE IT'S THE SUP. I APOLOGIZE, I KNOW THIS IS BETWEEN Y'ALL. YES, MA'AM.

THAT IS LIMITING MY FUTURE OWNER TO ME. BUT IS A MEDICAL OFFICE REALLY LIMITING IF DENTISTS HAVE ALREADY APPROACHED YOU? I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE PRETTY QUIET. I'VE BEEN GOING OVER THIS LAST, WELL, LAST WEEK OR SO. I'VE BEEN REALLY DIGGING INTO THIS, AND I DROVE BY THAT LOT. IT REALLY IS A TOUGH PLACE TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE. I CAN'T SEE A C-STORE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. REAL ESTATE'S JUST NOT THERE FOR THAT. I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THE DAYCARE. I MEAN,

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I DON'T HAVE ANY HEARTBURN, NECESSARILY ABOUT THAT, PARTICULARLY.

BUT AS FAR AS THAT FUTURE PAD, I THINK IF WE DID HAVE SOME KIND OF AN AGREEMENT, THAT SOME KIND OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, WE'VE MENTIONED DENTISTS. I MEAN, IT COULD BE PHYSICAL THERAPY.

IT COULD BE A FAMILY DOCTOR.

IT COULD BE WHATEVER.

BUT THAT'S A DIFFICULT PLACE TO FIND SOMETHING.

FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOT, AND AND OF ALL THE THINGS, YOU KNOW THE WAY. WELL, UNTIL WE CHANGE ZONING TO SEE ONE UNDER AG, I MEAN, THAT COULD BECOME SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK I THINK MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE, YOU KNOW, THE BEST USE OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD USE THAT I THINK PEOPLE CAN CAN PUT UP WITH. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HIGH-RISE APARTMENT OR ANYTHING. THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN ALL APPRECIATE COULD BE A WIN-WIN. MAY I SPEAK? SURE, I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE DID APPROACH THE CITY OF ANNA TO JUST BUY OUR PROPERTY, MAKE IT ANOTHER AG BARN. I HAVE A BARN, A 60 BY 40 BARN ON MY PROPERTY, AND THEY WANTED NO PART OF IT. WHEN WAS THIS, MA'AM? THE CITY OF THE SCHOOL. FIVE YEARS AGO. FIVE YEARS, OKAY.

FOUR YEARS AGO. MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REVISIT THAT. I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO STAFF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH THAT.

I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. THEY TOLD ME, NO, ANNA RANCH WAS GOING TO BUILD A SOCCER FIELD AND A PARK AT ANNA RANCH. NOW, THEY ALSO MUST NOT HAVE DONE WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO.

SO, BUT THAT IS WHY NO PARK OVER HERE, BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A PARK AT ANNA RANCH.

AND IT WAS GOING TO BE SOCCER FIELDS FOR THE KIDS TO PRACTICE THEIR SOCCER. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. I KNOW. AND BEING C1, IT CANNOT BE OVER A CERTAIN TALLNESS, SO IT CANNOT BE A TALL BUILDING. IT WILL NOT BE THE NEW WHATEVER, WHATEVER, FINLEY, THAT'S GOING ON IN ANNA TOWN SQUARE. IT WILL NOT BE ANYTHING THAT IS THAT LARGE. IS THERE, SO... IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE NO ACTION. I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM MAYBE ANOTHER WEEK OR SO TO TRY TO GET US A LETTER OF INTENT. OR JUST MAYBE CLARIFY WHAT TYPE OF, IF IT'S NOT MEDICAL, GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU CAN BUILD. LET US KIND OF TALK AMONGST OURSELVES. BUT I THINK THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GO TAKE A WALK IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVE ANITOWN RESIDENTS COME OUT, MAYBE MEET US, AND MAYBE GIVE US THEIR OPINION, TOO. AND WE CAN COME TO LIKE A FULL CIRCLE AGREEMENT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DRAG THIS ALONG AND I DO APOLOGIZE.

THAT'S WHY HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS TURNED AROUND FOR THE NEXT MEETING. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WAY THROUGH, I THINK THE WAY THROUGH IS PROVIDING A LETTER OF INTENT. OR CLOSING IN ON WHAT THAT FUTURE PATENT SITE CAN BE, BEING VERY SPECIFIC AND NOT GENERAL TO IT. I THINK THAT KIND OF HELPS BRIDGE SOME OF THE GAPS. CALEB, CAN YOU COME UP FOR A MINUTE? JUST TO CLARIFY, I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP OUT SO WE CAN GET CLARITY.

YEAH, THANK YOU. IS THIS THE TIME FOR US TO ASK FOR A LETTER OF INTENT, OR IS THAT IN THE NEXT PHASE? HERE'S WHERE I WOULD CAUTION YOU IN MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A C1 ZONING DISTRICT. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS COMPLETE OR DONE, THEY MOVE OUT, THE ZONING FALLS TO THE ZONING THAT IS CLASSIFIED, WHICH IS A C1, WHICH IS ALL USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN A C1. DISTRICT COULD BE PERMITTED TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO THOSE LOCATIONS. SO I'D BE CAUTIOUS ON HOW YOU SPECIFY ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS. WHAT REALLY OUR LOOK AT IS C1, OUR POLICIES ON WHAT WE HAVE ADOPTED FOR THE C1 DISTRICT, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THAT DISTRICT. AND IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A POLICY THAT FOR DAYCARES, IT'S A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SO YOU CAN LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THAT DAYCARE AND MAKE SURE IT'S THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION, LAYOUT, DETAILS, SCREENING, HOURS OF OPERATION. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE THE SPECIFIC USE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL ON THAT.

BEYOND THAT, I WOULD SAY, REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT YOUR POLICY IS FOR THE C1 ZONING DISTRICT. IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH ALL THINGS IN THE C1 DISTRICT, THEN YOUR RECOMMENDATION COULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT

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WITH THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THAT DAYCARE CENTER AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

OTHERWISE, IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ZONING DISTRICT, THAT C1 ZONING DISTRICT, THEN IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE NOT TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT. CAN YOU NAME OFF SOME THINGS ON THE C1 THAT WOULD BE FITTING NEXT TO A DAYCARE? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT IN C1 WOULD BE IDEAL GOING INTO THIS PAD NEXT TO A DAYCARE? I MEAN, WITH THE C1 DISTRICT, IT'S PRETTY BROAD ON ALL THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE C1 DISTRICT.

YOUR POLICY IS THAT YOU PICK OUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT WHEN SOMETHING COMES IN. A LOT OF TIMES, THE REASON WHY CHILD CARE FACILITIES AND DAY CARE FACILITIES ARE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS BECAUSE STARTING AT 5 A.M., THEY MAY BE BRINGING IN THEIR CHILDREN AND THEY MAY BE PICKING THEM UP AS LATE AS 7 OR 8 P.M. AT NIGHT, JUST DEPENDING ON THE OPERATIONS AND EACH DAY CARE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU'RE LOOKING AT. OKAY, HEADLIGHTS COMING IN AND OUT OF THIS.

WELL, THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION BECAUSE THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS BEHIND IT. IT'S A SCHOOL.

THERE'S NO, THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THEIR PLAYGROUND AREA ISN'T REALLY GOING TO BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S A SCHOOL BACK BEHIND IT. LIGHTING, REALLY, AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOW YOUR ADOPTED POLICIES THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED. AND GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, THERE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT. SO WHAT CAN GO, I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY QUESTION, WHAT CAN GO IN THIS FUTURE BUILDING THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN C1? C1? THE FUTURE PAD SITE IS WHAT'S HOLDING US UP, I THINK. AND I'M TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY ON WHAT CAN GO, LIKE WE WANT TO SEE MEDICAL OFFICES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WHAT OTHER THINGS CAN GO THERE? AND IF I MAY ADD, ACTUALLY, I'LL LET LOREN RUN OVER THAT LIST WITH YOU REALLY QUICK. SO IF I MAY ADD, JUST TO ADD ON TO THAT, AND THE REASON I THINK HE'S CONCERNED AS WELL, AND THAT KIND OF PERKS MY EARS, IS. THE STATE IS GOING TO COME IN AT SOME POINT, AND THEY MAY ALLOW A LOT MORE TO GO INTO C1 COMMERCIAL THAN WE CURRENTLY ALLOW. WELL, THE NEW STATE REQUIREMENTS, AT LEAST AS OF RIGHT NOW, WILL NOT HIT US UNTIL WE HIT OVER 100,000 POPULATION. OKAY, SO THAT'S AT LEAST 10 YEARS. IT'S ACTUALLY 150. NOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T GET OTHER SHOTS TAKEN FROM THE STATE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OVER THE NEXT FEW LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS.

BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME DUE TO OUR POPULATION. SO, LAUREN, DO YOU HAVE SOME EXAMPLES? PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

YES. SO, YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THERE'S RESIDENTIAL USES ACROSS THE STREET, SO THAT ACTUALLY LIMITS THE USES. SO A CAR WASH COULD NOT GO IN BECAUSE IT'S 150 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

BUT USES THAT COULD BE ALLOWED THAT DON'T HAVE THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS WOULD INCLUDE A RETAIL STORE, A MEDICAL OFFICE, A CONVENIENCE STORE, GROCERY STORE. YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THIS ZONING DISTRICT HAS A MAXIMUM BUILDING SIZE OF 15,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS WHY A GROCERY STORE WOULD NOT WORK THERE. A RESTAURANT. DO YOU MIND IF I ASK A COUPLE SPECIFIC ONES? WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE? WHAT ABOUT A VAPE SHOP? THAT REQUIRES AN SUP. AND IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL. WHAT ABOUT A BAR? PROBABLY TOO CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL, RIGHT? I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN? ANY TYPE OF BAR? ANY TYPE OF ALCOHOL? SO WE DEFINE A BAR AS 75% OR MORE ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL. THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE C1 DISTRICT.

WHAT ABOUT FAST FOOD? LIKE, SAY, LIKE A MCDONALD'S OR JUST THROWING SOMETHING OUT? SO WHEN WE AMENDED THE ZONING ORDINANCE EARLIER, OR LAST YEAR, WE CHANGED IT SO THAT IT REQUIRES AN SUP. IT REQUIRES REVIEW FOR A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.

PERFECT. AND ONCE AGAIN, I THINK I TOUCHED ON THIS, NO LIQUOR STORES, EITHER. I'M SORRY. NO LIQUOR STORES THAT ARE GOING TO BE, BECAUSE THE SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING, THERE'S NO CONCERN ABOUT THAT. I'M JUST LISTING OUT OBVIOUS ONES THAT PEOPLE MAY BE CONCERNED ABOUT, SO I'M JUST GOING TO SPELL IT OUT. HERE. SORRY.

WHAT WAS THE LAST? I CAN'T REMEMBER. OH, SORRY, LIQUOR STORES. THAT IS A RETAIL STORE. SO THAT TECHNICALLY COULD, RIGHT? CORRECT. THEY ELIMINATED THAT. WHAT IS THE LAW TO CHANGE THAT? I THINK.

YEAH, THAT'S A MUCH BIGGER CONVERSATION. SO, TEAM, I WANT TO FIND A WAY FORWARD FOR YOU GUYS, BUT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE MORE DISCUSSION.

WOULD YOU GUYS BE OKAY, AND ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THIS, CAN WE TAKE NO ACTION UNTIL MAYBE YOU GUYS PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY, WE'RE ABLE TO GO WALK WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, WE'RE ABLE TO GO WALK WITH THE OWNER, MAYBE SHE CAN WALK WITH US,

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YOU CAN KIND OF DESCRIBE TO US, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROPERTY, AND YOU'LL JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FOR RESEARCH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T RUSH THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DECISIONS ARE FUTURE-PROOF. IF THE LEGISLATURE AT SOME POINT DECIDES TO MAKE CHANGES, WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS OPEN. WHATEVER WE DO DECIDE TO DO WITH THIS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE REALLY THINK IT THROUGH. WOULD YOU GUYS BE OPEN TO THAT? WE'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS HERE. WE WENT THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING.

WE WERE ASKED TO GO THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS. WE ARE DOING THAT TO TRY TO COMPLY. A DAYCARE IS WHAT OUR INTENT HAS BEEN FROM THE GET-GO ON THIS.

SERVICE-ORIENTED, ORTHODONTIST, DENTIST IS OUR INTENT ON THE OTHER. IT DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO ANYTHING BUT THAT.

IT'S SO SMALL, YOU CAN'T PARK IT. I THINK WE'RE ALL UP HERE, OKAY WITH THE DAYCARE. WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT. I STILL HAVE A LOT OF RESERVATION ABOUT THE FUTURE PAD SITE BEING, YOU KNOW, THE RETAIL STORE COULD BE BEER, WINE, ET CETERA. YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD JUST NAIL DOWN SOME KIND OF A FUTURE PAD SITE, OTHER THAN JUST ANYTHING ALLOWED BY RIGHT. WELL, LET ME ASK THIS, AND THIS IS A CALEB KETTNER QUESTION. SO... THE SUP HERE IS FOR THE DAYCARE, CORRECT? OKAY, SO THE FUTURE PAD SITE, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THAT IN, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET AN SUP FOR THAT AS WELL? YEAH, ACTUALLY, THAT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE YOU CAN WITH THIS SPECIAL, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ONE LOT, AT THIS POINT, YOU CAN JUST PASS THE SUP SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DAYCARE CENTER ONLY.

AND THEN IF THEY WANT TO ADD TO IT LATER ON, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU. THAT CLEARS UP A LOT OF THINGS BECAUSE THE FUTURE PAD SITE CANNOT BE ANYTHING EXCEPT THE DAYCARE AS OF NOW.

IF THEY WERE TO BUILD A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUILDING, THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR ITS OWN SUP.

THAT'S CORRECT. I WOULD MAKE SURE YOU SPECIFY THAT IN YOUR SUP. OKAY. SIR, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THAT? DO WE STILL MOVE ON WITH EVERYTHING? AND WHENEVER YOU DECIDE TO BUILD THE OTHER PAD, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET A SUP FOR THAT. I WAS AWARE I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THAT PAD ANYWAY. OKAY.

THAT WAS NEVER THE ISSUE. IT WAS THE DAYCARE.

BUT NOW YOU'VE GOT TO PROBABLY COME BACK AN EXTRA TIME. CAN WE TIE A TIMELINE TO THAT? BECAUSE WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS WE'LL APPROVE THE SPECIAL UNIT USAGE PERMIT SPECIFICALLY FOR DAYCARE. YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT TAKES YOU 12 TO 14 MONTHS TO BUILD THIS, BUT NOW WE'VE JUST OPENED THE ENTIRE FUTURE PAD TO AN UNLIMITED TIMELINE. IS THERE ANY WAY TO LOCK THAT DOWN? WELL, THERE'S NO TIME. BASICALLY, THIS IS JUST A YARD. I WOULD JUST CONSIDER IT AS A YARD BECAUSE THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT. AND IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED. YEAH, AND THEY HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH AND BUILD ANYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S ALL THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR.

BUT IF YOU WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THE 14 MONTHS TO GET STARTED, YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT AS WELL.

YEAH, IF WE CAN TIGHTEN IT UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I STILL DON'T FEEL. COMFORTABLE WITHOUT HEARING A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM THE RESIDENTS. I'D LIKE TO WALK IT. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM MEET US OUT THERE, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW REALISTIC THAT IS. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AESUP FOR A DAYCARE. WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT CONSTRUCTION SHALL BEGIN WITHIN, I'LL SAY, 15 MONTHS. IS IT 15 MONTHS? 14 MONTHS. WELL, THE SUP IS ONLY FOR THE DAYCARE. IF THEY DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE DAYCARE ON THE FUTURE BED SITE, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER SUP. SO, IS THAT A MOTION? IT'S A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? WELL, LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND HIS MOTION. OKAY.

YOU'RE MOTIONING TO APPROVE THE DAYCARE AS LONG AS THEY START CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 14 MONTHS.

ARE YOU GIVING, BECAUSE I KNOW WE DISCUSSED A SIX-MONTH...

EXTENSION SHOULD IT BE NEEDED FOR CONSTRUCTION? I'LL AMEND IT TO ADD REASONABLE EXTENSIONS UP TO SIX MONTHS AS NECESSARY. IF I MAY, FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IS THAT IF YOUR MOTION IS FOR 14 MONTHS TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION, THAT THE SUP WOULD THEN EXPIRE AT THAT 14 MONTHS IF IT ISN'T STARTED? THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, YES. OKAY. I WILL SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAKER, SECOND BY COUNCILLADY HERNDON. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. OH YEAH,

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THERE'S ONLY SIX. WHAT DO WE DO HERE, CLARK? NEVER HAD A TIE.

THREE ON THREE? THE MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF MAJORITY. SO THEY'RE DONE FOR THE EVENING, OR CAN WE REVISIT IT? YOU CAN TABLE IT. YOU HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND CONTINUE IT TO A DATE, TIME, AND PLACE CERTAIN. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, BECAUSE IT TIED THREE TO THREE, AND IT EITHER FAILS AND YOU START OVER, OR YOU'RE OKAY. WITH US.

LEAVING A PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, THE FIRST MEETING OF MARCH IN TWO WEEKS, AND WE REVISIT IT THEN. YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD. I'M THE OWNER AGAIN, CATHERINE MCMENEMY.

THERE WERE PEOPLE HERE IN THE JANUARY. PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL AND PUBLIC SPOKE TO ME AFTER I SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING. THEY WERE HERE. NOBODY'S HERE. I'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS MEETING A MONTH AGO.

LET'S, CAN WE, CAN WE, CAN THE COUNCIL DISCUSS AGAIN? I THINK I KNOW WHAT THE HOLDUP IS.

YES. OKAY, SO IS THE HOLDUP...

I GUESS I CAN ASK.

FOR THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED NO, IT'S... YES, MA'AM. I UNDERSTAND. IS THE HOLD-UP THE DAYCARE OR THE FUTURE PAD SITE? YOU VOTED NO, SO WHAT IS IT? OH, YEAH, I DID VOTE NO.

WELL, FOR ME, IT'S JUST ANYTHING IN THAT AREA. WELL, THAT'S WHY WE SAY THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR AN SUP FOR THAT PAD.

YEAH. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT...

I WOULD BE ALRIGHT WITH IT IF IT WAS ALL MEDICAL OFFICES, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT JUST DAYCARE, THAT JUST ADDS A LOT OF TRAFFIC. I MEAN, HE SAID, IT WAS A HUNDRED AND... 165 CARS, 193 OCCUPANTS.

BUT THAT'S JUST ME. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOR A LONG TIME AND I'VE HEARD A LOT FROM ANATOWN SQUARE. SO, THAT'S JUST ME. I HAVE THAT, RIGHT.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER YOU DO ON YOUR PROPERTY. BUT, I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU, ACTUALLY.

SO, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW... CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT ONE, NO ACTION? YOU HOLD IT OPEN.

YOU DON'T KNOW, MOTION NEEDED, I CAN JUST HOLD IT OPEN.

RIGHT, CLARK? NO. WE DO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. THE COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE ON THAT. ALL RIGHT, IT'S ALL NEW STUFF FOR US, SO IT'S ALL GOOD. YEAH, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO LET THIS... I WILL MOTION TO HOLD IT OPEN UNTIL THE MARCH 10TH MEETING HERE AT CITY HALL. AT 6 P.M.? AT 6 P.M.

IN THAT TIME, I WOULD ALSO REQUEST THAT NEXT MEETING, IF ANYONE FROM ANAHEIM TOWN SQUARE HAS CONCERNS, PLEASE DO SHOW UP.

I'M ALSO GOING TO WORK WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT A DAY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. MAYBE WE CAN SET UP A TIME. IF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE CONCERNS, THEY CAN MEET US ALL THERE, AND WE CAN KIND OF WALK THE PROPERTY OURSELVES IF YOU GUYS HAVE TIME. JUST SOME THOUGHTS.

SO IS THAT A SECOND? I'VE BEEN TO THAT PROPERTY AND WATCHED. I DO HAVE SERIOUS CONGESTION CONCERNS. SAME. AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO YOU SELLING YOUR PROPERTY. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO YOU BUILDING ON IT. I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON FLOOD OF TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON THAT PART OF THE WORLD OVER THERE. AND I ALSO THINK THAT WE CAN DO MORE THAN A DAYCARE.

BUT IF YOU CAN, IF OUR STAFF... CAN SOLVE SOME OF THE CONGESTION ISSUES. I'M NOT, I'M NOT EGREGIOUS TO THEIR PROPOSAL. DO I HAVE A SECOND TO COUNCILMAN SINGH'S? I'M GOING TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7-11. AND, UM, PM, RANDY SYKES WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

SECRET MESSAGING. HELLO, COUNCIL. RANDY SYKES, 1316.

DAVID DRIVE, WHICH IS IN ATTATOWN SQUARE. UM, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE OTHER IDEAS OTHER THAN A DAYCARE. THERE ARE MANY THAT ARE FINE. WITH THE DAYCARE. I

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PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DRY CLEANERS, BUT THAT'S BEING SELFISH.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A PARK LESS THAN A MILE AWAY, AS LONG AS FINLEY PARK IS STILL ON TRACK, SO THAT DOESN'T CONCERN ME.

TRAFFIC, I DON'T KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE GO TO PICK UP THEIR CHILD AT WHENEVER SCHOOL IS OUT.

THEY WAIT TILL THE END OF THE DAY WHEN THEY GET OFF WORK. NOW, THE MORNING MAY BE A LITTLE HAIRY, BUT HAVING A LEFT TURN LANE SHOULD REALLY EASE SOME OF THAT ISSUE. THE OTHER PART IS THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, AND COUNCIL, PLANNING, AND ZONING APPROVED IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING WHAT THEY APPROVE, WHAT THEY DISCUSS, AND MAKING A DECISION ON BEHALF OF THE CONSTITUENTS.

BUT YOU'RE PLAYING EDC AS WE SPEAK, TELLING, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE SUGGESTION IT'S A CONVENIENCE STORE. NO, I DON'T WANT A CONVENIENCE STORE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IF I WANTED TO SELL MY PROPERTY AND I FOUND A LEGITIMATE OPTION, LET ME SELL MY PROPERTY, LIKE THIS LANDOWNER HAS DONE.

SITTING HERE IN CITY COUNCIL MEETING. DECIDING, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS? WHAT ABOUT THAT? WHAT'S IT ZONED FOR? IT'S ZONED FOR A DAYCARE. I DON'T SEE THE ISSUE, AND I'M SORRY, YOU'RE SECOND-GUESSING AND SECOND-GUESSING AND SECOND-GUESSING. YOU'VE MADE THESE PEOPLE COME BACK AT LEAST TWICE? FOUR TIMES.

OKAY. YOU KNOW... EDC MAYBE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN FINDING WHO YOU WANT TO COME OCCUPY THAT PROPERTY.

IT'S A MATTER OF A LITTLE FORESIGHT, A LITTLE PLANNING, AND A LITTLE CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT THE PROCESS HAS SHOWN YOU THUS FAR. AND THAT IS, YOU'VE GOT A MOTION TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE DAYCARE.

YOU DIDN'T GET A TIMER, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. ANY OTHERS? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7.14 P.M. AND OPEN IT BACK UP FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A RESOLUTION. BECAUSE, I MEAN, THEY HAVE, THEY'VE... ONE P&Z MEETING AND THIS WILL BE THEIR SECOND OR THIRD COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY, SO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO HOLD OPEN UNTIL MARCH.

THOSE OF YOU THAT SAID NO, I CAN RETRACT MY MOTION, BUT THOSE OF YOU THAT SAID NO, WOULD YOU RECONSIDER? I ALREADY GAVE YOU MINE. ARE THERE TWO OTHERS? OH, OKAY. YEAH, I'M SORRY. I'VE DRIVEN THAT AREA. MIC ON, PLEASE. I'VE DRIVEN THAT AREA.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD CHILDREN IN SCHOOL OVER AT RADDEN AND KNOW WHAT THE CONGESTION IS THERE.

BUT THIS IS NOT A SCHOOL. IT'S A DAYCARE. AND SO THE OTHER DAYCARES THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE AREA, THE CONGESTION.

ONLY SEEMS TO REAR ITS UGLY HEAD WHEN YOU HAVE A VERY LIMITED ACCESS WAY. WHEN THERE'S JUST ONE-WAY TRAFFIC ON EITHER SIDE, WELL, YOU'VE GOT TWO LANES HERE, AND YOU'VE GOT A CROSSOVER. SO IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT CONGESTION, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO START OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, 190 CHILDREN. YOU'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH PROBABLY 120, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO WORK ITS WAY UP. PROBABLY PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT I DON'T THINK THE CONGESTION IS GOING TO BE AS BAD AS... YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS A RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING ELSE, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, SO, AND IT'S GOING TO BE SPECIAL USE FOR THE ONE ITEM, AND THEN WHEN THEY BUILD AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO GET ANOTHER SPECIAL USE, SO THIS IS JUST A ONE DEAL.

YEAH, I HONESTLY THINK THE PAD IS WHAT'S HOLDING SOME PEOPLE UP. WELL, THE PAD HAS... THE FUTURE PAD. THE FUTURE PAD HAS TO COME BACK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

RIGHT, YEAH. THIS IS JUST FOR THE DAYCARE. YEAH. WHICH IS WHAT THEY HAVE ON THIS PLATENAP. I THINK IT'S ONLY RIGHT THAT WE, I MEAN, IT DIDN'T REALLY FAIL, IT KIND OF FAILED WITH THE TIE, BUT I THINK IT'S ONLY RIGHT.

WE COME TO A RESOLUTION OF WHAT... WHAT WE WANT TONIGHT

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AND NOT COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS. ARE YOU CHANGING YOUR VOTE FROM A NOTE TO A YES? I DON'T HAVE TO SAY THAT YES OR NO RIGHT NOW, HUH? WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION. STAFF. CAN WE? UM, CAN WE SET A TIMELINE AS TO SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY GOT TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE PAD IN SIX MONTHS, YOU KNOW? LIKE, IF WE APPROVE THE SPECIAL USAGE PERMIT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED SOMETHING THAT, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITHIN SIX MONTHS, AND IF WE NEED, WE'LL GIVE YOU AN EXTENSION, BUT IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE KIND OF NEED YOU TO GET SOME LETTER OF INTENT OR SOMETHING FIGURED OUT FOR THAT. THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING THEM FROM PUTTING NOTHING EVER IN THE FUTURE. PAD. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER WORKABLE SOLUTION. THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES. IS THAT THEY NEVER DO. I DON'T THINK TYING THEIR HANDS UP, THEY'VE GOT TO GO OUT AND GET AN LMI FOR SOMETHING THAT MAYBE NOTHING EVER DOES COME THERE. SO THE FACT IS, IS THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS, THEY GET AN SUP FOR DAYCARE, WHICH IS ON THE PLAN THERE IN THE FUTURE. PAD. IF IT DOES ANYTHING OTHER THAN A LAWN, ANYTHING VERTICAL WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR AN SUP. I JUST WORRY ABOUT WHAT THAT... IT MAY BE NOTHING THERE. YEAH, IT MAY BE NOTHING. IT, HONESTLY, MAY BE NOTHING. IT'S JUST WITH THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE... YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ME.

WITH THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE JUST EXPRESSED CONCERN OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE SENSITIVE TO THAT. I WANT TO TRY TO FIND A WAY FORWARD, BUT I THINK I JUST NEED AN ANSWER FOR FUTURE PAT. THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M STUCK ON RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I NEED SOMETHING I CAN STICK MY TEETH INTO. I CAN'T JUST... I THINK RIGHT NOW, WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT IF A MOTION WAS MADE, THAT IT'S A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT JUST FOR THE DAYCARE ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY USE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE. WHILE THAT SUP IS IN PLACE. AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU AND PRESENT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, MODIFY ON THAT SUP.

THEY COULD COME BACK WITH ANYTHING THAT MEETS A C1 FOR THAT OTHER SITE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE IT. AND THEN TELL THEM, WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY, THE EDC, NATASHA CAN GO TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I MEAN, I CAN BE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, BUT... I MEAN, MY PROBLEM WASN'T REALLY THE FEATURE PAD.

NO, THAT'S FAIR. WELL, I THINK YOU REALLY, WITH THE SUP, BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING ZONING COMES WITH THIS. KEEP THAT IN MIND, IS THAT THE SUP IS FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY, AS WAS DISCUSSED, AND THAT'S IT. IT'S THE SUP FOR A DAYCARE. IF THEY WANT TO MODIFY THEIR SUP, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU. OR CEASE OPERATIONS OF THE SUP, AND THEY WOULD FALL BACK TO THE C1 ZONING. CAN THEY EVENTUALLY SPLIT THAT OFF AND SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE? AND DOES THAT CHANGE ANY ZONING? THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. THAT WOULD START MODIFYING THEIR SUP.

OKAY. YEAH, SO AS LONG AS MY MAIN CONCERN IS, WE DO. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS, LOOK AT TAYLOR. OR IS IT OFF FERGUSON, THAT ONE DAYCARE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO VERTICAL IS JUST SITTING THERE. IT'S JUST LIKE. IT'S JUST FOUNDATION SITTING THERE. IT'S EMPTY.

IT'S LIKE COLLECTING WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE OUT THERE, RIGHT? SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT A NICER OUT THERE. SO I WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF THAT.

BUT IF WE CAN JUST LOCK DOWN THE FUTURE PAD, YOU KNOW, I'M FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT? AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND GIVE US SOME TYPE OF AVENUE THROUGH. SO I WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE RESIDENTS THERE. I THINK A HAPPY MEDIUM IS. YOU KNOW, WE LOCKED DOWN THE ENTIRE SITE WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AND THEY GOT TO COME BACK.

LIKE YOU GUYS SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU GIVE US A HEADS UP ON THAT FOR A FEATURE PAD, IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE DID. OKAY, NOW I'M JUST VERIFYING. CAN WE MOTION THAT AGAIN? ALL RIGHT, YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE YOUR MOTION BACK, RIGHT? YEAH, TAKE IT BACK. I WILL HAVE TO RETRACT MY MOTION.

I RETRACT MY MOTION FOR HOLDING IT OPEN. OKAY.

MAKE YOUR MOTION. THERE YOU GO.

MAKE YOUR MOTION AGAIN. SAME ONE. SAME ONE. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE. THAT WE APPROVE THE SUP WITH THE CONDITION THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGINS WITHIN 14 MONTHS. AND JUST ALSO MAKE NOTE THAT THAT IS IMPLIED THAT THE FUTURE PAD IS UNDER THE SAME SUP. AND THIS IS FOR THE DAYCARE ONLY? FOR DAYCARE ONLY, CORRECT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE NO'S? SAY AGAIN? ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE NO'S? ANY CONCERNS? YOU GUYS FULLY FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. WE HASH IT OUT. WE FIGURE OUT. WE TRY TO GET TO A HAPPY MEDIUM IF ONE'S GOING TO BE DONE. AND IT'S AS LONG AS IT'S FAVORABLE TO THE CITY OF ANNA AND DEFENDS PROPERTY RIGHTS, THEN I'M OKAY WITH IT. I THINK YOU MADE SOME VALID POINTS. I WILL SECOND THE

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SECOND AGAIN. ALL RIGHT, A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAKER, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON. ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES. EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.

THANK YOU. WHAT LETTER WAS THAT? S? YEAH. YES. NUMBER G.

ARE Y'ALL ALRIGHT WITH, LIKE, A QUICK FIVE MINUTE RECESS? ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE RECESS. BACK INTO SESSION. I APPRECIATE THE RECESS. THAT'S PROBABLY MORE SO FOR ME. CEDAR FEVER AND MOUNTAIN CEDARS REALLY KILLING ME RIGHT NOW. BUT AT 7.30.

NEXT ITEM IS LETTER G. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACTION ON ORDINANCE ANNEXING 29.8 ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WHITE STREET, FM 455, 2,670 FEET.

WEST OF SANDRIDGE BOULEVARD, IN ACCORDANCE WITH AN APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-08-1807, ANNEX, I GUESS THAT'S A AND X, 26-0001, PLANNING MANAGER LORI MECHIE. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. LAUREN MECHIE. I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT. ITEMS G AND H ARE ACTUALLY THE SAME PROPERTY.

THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT APPROVED IN AUGUST 2025, THE TRINITY CREEK INDUSTRIAL TRACK. SO, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST WHITE, FAR WEST WHITE STREET.

THE AGREEMENT REGARDING SERVICES FOR THE ANNEXATION WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THE ANNEXATION IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED, AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7.31 P.M. I'LL HAVE A FEW SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS. MOST OF THESE ARE FOR, LIKE, DOUBLE, SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE OR THE NEXT ONE.

OR YOU CAN SPEAK ON BOTH, IF YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT. FIRST ONE IS SEAN SMITH. AND I THINK YOU PUT AN H, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE AN L. I'M ASSUMING IT'S AN H. IT'S ALL GOOD. IF YOU CAN, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US. MY NAME IS SEAN SMITH, 11089, COUNTY ROAD 289, ANNA. I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION OF 6G AND 6H.

LEARNED FROM LIBERTY HILLS THAT THIS IS PROBABLY FRUITLESS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH AND GIVE IT A TRY. I KNOW THE DEAL HAS ALREADY BEEN SIGNED WITH THIS DEVELOPER. IT'S EITHER WE GO THROUGH AND WE ANNEX THIS AND WE GO THROUGH AND APPROVE THIS, OR THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND THREATEN THE MUD.

IT'S THE SAME SONG AND DANCE AS WE'VE HAD BEFORE.

BUT I'M HERE ALSO TO GO THROUGH AND QUESTION WHY. IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, THE COUNCIL APPROVED THIS. AND I WATCHED THE VIDEO FROM AUGUST 12TH OF LAST YEAR, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS.

IN REGARDS TO HOW DO WE GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS DEVELOPER DOES WHAT HE'S PROMISING. THERE WAS TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ROADS, CONGESTION, SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS THAT WE JUST HAD, ABOUT LARGER ACREAGE. NOW THIS IS THE FULL DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST THIS ONE. BUT ALSO, I KEEP HEARING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HIGH-END DEVELOPMENTS AND QUALITY-DRIVEN DEVELOPMENTS.

IN HIS CONVERSATIONS, BUT LOOKING AT THESE RENDERINGS, I'M PERSONALLY NOT SEEING THEM.

AND ALSO THE DEVELOPER, THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT WAS HERE, COULDN'T GO THROUGH AND EXPLAIN WHO THE BUILDER WAS OR WHAT THE ATTRIBUTES OF THESE BUILDINGS WERE. SO, IN THE INDUSTRIAL RENDERINGS THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE PACKET, THEY WEREN'T REALLY REFLECTIVE OF A HIGH-END AREA. IT LOOKED LIKE A COOKIE-CUTTER METAL BUILDING, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S DOWN THE ROAD AT THE STORAGE AREA. NOTHING REALLY SPECTACULAR. THE RENDERINGS WERE GREAT. AHEAD.

NICE PICTURES, NICE CARS IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT THERE'S NOTHING SPECTACULAR, NOTHING UNIQUE THAT WOULD GO THROUGH AND DIVERSIFY THAT. IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN 455, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE IMPRESSED WITH? IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D BE HAPPY IN OUR CITY? YOU KNOW, THOSE RENDERINGS, THE SALES PITCHES, THEY'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE THEM LOOK THE BEST THAT THEY CAN, BUT THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE END? TO ME, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A TIMESHARE WHERE THEY GO THROUGH AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL A PRODUCT. THEY TALK INDUSTRIAL. EVERYONE GETS EXCITED. BUT THE THING IS, WE'RE MISSING. WHAT IS THE BIG PICTURE? WHAT'S THE VALUE TO THE CITY, OR IS THERE A VALUE TO THE CITY FOR HAVING THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT? THE OTHER THING THAT I NOTICED IN THIS IS THAT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT DRAINAGE. THIS 30 ACRES IS BASICALLY

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ON A HILL. WHERE IS THAT WATER GOING TO GO? I DON'T SEE RETENTION PONDS. I DON'T SEE A SEWER PLAN. AND, YOU KNOW, IN MY PROPERTY, I'VE GOT A 10-FOOT DROP FROM THE ROAD TO MY HOUSE, AND WE GET A LOT OF WATER DURING THE RAIN. SO THAT'S NOTHING THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED.

SO MY VISION FOR THE CITY IS TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT I'M PROUD OF, WITH GREAT COMMUNITIES AND DIVERSIFIED HOUSINGS AND BUSINESSES. THIS CITY HAS OVERACHIEVED APPROVING ALL THE MULTIFAMILY AND HIGH-DENSITY STUFF, AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING THAT TYPE OF STUFF ANYMORE. I HOPE THAT WE CAN CHANGE COURSE. I'M ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THE VISION FOR THE CITY AND HOPE SO ON LINES WHERE WE CAN START AT LARGE LOTS FOR THOSE WHO WANT YARDS.

WE'VE GOT HIGH-VALUE HOUSES, HIGH-VALUE BUSINESSES, AND HIGH-VALUE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HELP DIVERSIFY OUR CITY AND ALSO DRIVE THE VALUE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE CITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. MR. SMITH, ARE YOU GOING TO WANT TO SPEAK IN H2? NO. OKAY, THANK YOU. NEXT UP, G. I APPRECIATE THAT. I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN MAD WITH YOUR NAME.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. G. COUNTY ROAD 288.

I'M TOP LEFT CORNER OF, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT YELLOW BLUE ON THE CREEK. SO THIS IS. I CAN HEAR ALL THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW THAT'S GOING ON, AND, UH, PRETTY SURE I'M GOING TO HEAR EVERY SINGLE THING GOING ON UP THERE. UM, YOU'VE RECEIVED MY WIFE'S EMAILS, AS WELL AS MANY OF MY OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO'VE GIVEN WELL-WRITTEN EMAILS.

IN OPPOSITION OF THIS, BOTH 6G AND H, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE POINTS. ONE, THE LAYOUT. I SPEAK OF THIS AS AN AECD CONSULTANT, ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT. I HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS OUT.

AND THIS IS AN ATROCIOUS DESIGN LAYOUT. THE DENSITY IS WAY TOO MUCH. IT'S THE WRONG TYPE PROJECT FOR THIS LOCATION. AS MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SPOKEN AND SAID, TRAFFIC. IT'S SLOPES.

IT'S JUST THE WRONG TYPE OF PROJECT FOR THIS SITE AND FOR THIS LOCATION. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WHY DID THE CITY BOTHER REVISING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALLOWING THE RESIDENTS TO VOTE AND COMMENT? IT KIND OF FEELS WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS ALLOWED, THAT ALL THAT TIME AND MONEY WAS A WASTE. I DON'T THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO BE WASTING MONEY. I THINK WE NEED TO STICK WITH WHAT WAS DESIGNED, WHAT WE ALL AGREE TO. IT ESPECIALLY SEEMS LIKE A WASTE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING IS BEING IGNORED. THAT ANY DEVELOPER WITH THE RIGHT LAWYER, CONNECTIONS, AND DEEP ENOUGH POCKETS GETS WHAT THEY WANT THROUGH. THEY PUSH, THEY PUSH, THEY PUSH, THEY PUSH, AND THEY GET THROUGH. AND IT'S REALLY SAD. PLEASE REMEMBER WHY WE HAVE THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND LET'S MAINTAIN IT. I DON'T WANT INDUSTRIAL HERE.

NOBODY DOES. IT MIGHT NOT AFFECT MANY OF YOU, BUT DOES AFFECT THOSE OF US.

THAT MOVED AWAY FROM THE CITY, MOVED OUT HERE A FEW YEARS AGO, MANY YEARS AGO, TO GET AWAY FROM POLLUTION, TRAFFIC, AND CRIME. WE LIKE OUR PEACE AND QUIET, AND WE WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY AND WHAT WE INVESTED IN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE YOU, YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE NEXT ITEM AS WELL, OR ARE YOU GOOD WITH THIS ONE? NO, THAT'S FOR BOTH. OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT UP IS MISS BETTY SHARK. I KNOW YOU KNOW THE DRILL, SO WE'LL WAIT FOR YOU TO GET UP HERE. AND I SAID THAT IN THE NICEST WAY POSSIBLE.

BETTY SHARP, 102.82, COUNTY ROAD, 288. FAITH IS WHAT YOU HAVE LEFT WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO TURN OUT, AND BOY, THAT SEEMS APPROPRIATE TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO PUT MY FAITH IN ALL OF YOU THAT YOU'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE EMAIL I SENT, AND I KNOW OTHER NEIGHBORS SENT, AS TO WHY WE OBJECT AND WANT YOU TO TURN DOWN THESE TWO ITEMS. IT'S ABOUT HIGH-END METAL BUILDINGS.

YOU'VE BEEN ASKED, WE'VE BEEN ASKED, TO JUST THINK. THEY WILL

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BE HIGH-END WITH PAINT ARTICULATION AND ACCEPT THAT THE UNKNOWN BUILDER WILL CREATE SOMETHING ATTRACTIVE AND USEFUL WITHOUT ANY SUCH SPECIFICS. I HOPE YOU READ MY EMAIL BECAUSE I WANT TO USE THIS TIME TO GO TO ANOTHER POINT. COLIN GRAYSON, REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, INSTEAD OF ANNA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THAT'S COMING. ANNA'S GOING TO BE THE HUB. GROWTH IS...

INEVITABLE, WE'RE TOLD, BUT SO IS SLOWDOWN AT SOME POINT, SO WE BETTER BE PREPARED. SO LET'S DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

INSTEAD OF ANNA BEING A BOOM TOWN, WITH THESE THINGS LIKE METAL BUILDINGS BEING PUT IN, LET'S MAKE ANNA A BLOOM TOWN, A PLACE WHERE BUSINESSES AND FAMILIES BLOOM TOGETHER. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR, I'M SURE, THAT THIS APPLICANT, DEVELOPER, PROPERTY OWNER PUT TWO YEARS INTO WORKING ON THIS PLAN AND THESE METAL BUILDINGS. WELL, THAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. I'VE INVESTED MORE THAN TWO YEARS IN ANNA, HAVEN'T YOU? ANNA RESIDENTS LIVING BEHIND THE UNFINISHED HOLIDAY INN, THE ONES IN ANNA TOWN SQUARE, YOU KNOW THE DRILL.

THAT'S BOOM BUILDING. AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE BOOM BUILDING, FIREWORKS AND BALLOONS, AND IT'S GREAT, THE DEBRIS FALLS ON THE GROUND, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO CLEAN IT UP. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THESE METAL BUILDINGS.

THEY SAY PROFESSIONALS ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THEM. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN GIVEN US A RENDERING, EXCEPT THE ONE ON PAGE 1181, I THINK IT IS, I PUT IN MY EMAIL, THAT IS NOTHING BUT METAL BUILDINGS THAT DON'T LOOK ANY BETTER. THAN THE STRIP BEHIND CALIBER COLLISION.

NOW, THE GENTLEMAN ALSO SAID THE COUNCIL TOLD HIM THERE WAS A NEED FOR THOSE METAL BUILDINGS, BUT HE COULDN'T TELL US WHAT KIND OF PROFESSIONALS OR BUSINESSES.

AND I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU, THE PROFESSIONAL BUSINESSES IN ANNA, THE DOCTORS, THE DENTISTS, THE CHIROPRACTORS, THE PTS, ARE IN MASONRY BUILDINGS. THAT LOOK VERY NICE ON ANNA ON THE EAST SIDE. THIS ISN'T THAT. THESE ARE METAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH WHAT IS BEHIND CALIBER COLLISION. I RODE THROUGH CALIBER COLLISION, AND LET ME TELL YOU, THOSE METAL GARAGE DOORS ARE ALREADY DETERIORATING. THIS IS WHAT THIS PLAN IS. MY OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

HERE'S A NEW SLOGAN FOR THIS TOWN. ANNA, THE PLACE WHERE FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES BLOOM TOGETHER. ENVISION IT.

REQUIRE IT. YOU JUST HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION, SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T SEEN VERY OFTEN.

REQUIRE, ENVISION. LET ANNA BLOOM, NOT BOOM, AND THEN WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE MESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ARE YOU GOING TO WANT TO SPEAK ON THE NEXT ONE, OR IS THAT YOUR SPEECH FOR BOTH? I THINK YOU'VE HEARD ENOUGH FROM ME. YOU SAID IT. I KNOW YOU'RE DONE. I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M KIDDING. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR EMAILS EVERY WEEK.

TERRELL CULBERTSON, YOU DO JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON THE NEXT ONE? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I'VE BEEN PRETTY GENEROUS TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7.43 P.M. AND WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS. FOR STAFF, IS THE DEVELOPER HERE? PROBABLY NOT.

THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE. YES, OKAY. GO AHEAD.

PERFECT. I REVIEWED SOME OF THE EMAILS AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS EARLIER. A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THIS LINES UP WITH THE 2050 PLAN.

LIKE, WHAT DO WE HAVE ON THE 2050? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GIVE MY PRESENTATION FOR THE NEXT ITEM? OH, YEAH, PLEASE. SORRY. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM IS FOR THE ANNEXATION. SO THE NEXT ITEM, H, IS THE ZONING. AGAIN, SAME PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY AS FLEX OFFICE SPACE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES

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THIS PROPERTY AS URBAN LIVING AND SUBURBAN LIVING, WITH WEST WHITE STREET BEING A MAJOR ARTERIAL. IT IS A TXDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO, WITHIN BOTH OF THE LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS FOR URBAN LIVING AND SUBURBAN LIVING, IT DOES TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS SERVING RETAIL OFFICES, INSTITUTIONAL USES, ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS, THINGS THAT CAN SERVE A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO... RESTRICT THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES BY PROHIBITING THE USES LISTED ON YOUR SCREEN. THEY ALSO ARE REQUESTING TO MODIFY THE PARKING SO THAT THEY CAN INCLUDE GARAGE SPACES ALONG WITH THE STANDARD PARKING SPACES FOR THE TOTAL LOT. WHEN THE PROJECT COMES THROUGH WITH THIS SITE PLAN IS WHEN THEY WOULD SUBMIT THEIR FACADE PLAN.

THEY DID NOT REQUEST TO AMEND ANY OF OUR ARTICULATION STANDARDS WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

NO STANDARDS WITH THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. THE ONLY MODIFICATIONS IS TO THE PARKING AND THE PROHIBITED USES. THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. WE RECEIVED THREE NOTIFICATIONS TODAY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT G, RIGHT? FOR G. G. G. I'M PRESENTING BOTH ITEMS. YEAH, I KNOW. I JUST WANTED YOU TO SAY RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT G. BOTH ITEMS. BOTH ITEMS. GOTCHA. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. TO THE PARKING.

YEAH, THAT ONE. SO THE TOTAL NUMBER IS 563. CORRECT. WE DO NOT HAVE... FLEX OFFICE AS A DEFINED USE IN ITSELF, VERY SIMILAR TO A SHOPPING CENTER. MOST OF THE TIME, WHEN A SHOPPING CENTER COMES IN WITH A SITE PLAN, WE HAVE THE APPLICANTS DETAIL OUT THE DIFFERENT SUITES. THAT WAY, WE CAN BETTER PREPARE FOR WHAT MAY COME INTO THOSE SUITES.

IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE PARKING AS SHOWN. IS THIS ADEQUATE? IS IT MORE THAN WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE REQUIRED? IS IT LESS? OBVIOUSLY, IT DEPENDS ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES. THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS TEND TO BE LESS FOOT TRAFFIC COMPARED TO A SHOPPING CENTER, SO THEY DON'T NEED QUITE THE FOUR SPACES PER 1,000 SQUARE FEET.

DO THEY KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES THEY'RE GOING TO ATTRACT WITH THIS? I WILL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RON RAMIREZ, PRESIDENT OF EVOLVING TEXAS AT 3000 RAY STREET IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE DIALOGUE AND ALL THE FEEDBACK.

IT'S A SHOW OF CONCERN FROM ALL THE CONSTITUENTS. I WISH EVERY CITY HAD THAT KIND OF INVOLVEMENT. AS IS THE CASE HERE, DEVELOPMENT STARTS WITH THE PLANNING PHASES, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH MY CLIENT, THE LANDOWNER, AND WHO WILL BE DEVELOPING THE FLEX SPACE, NOT THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH. WE'RE ONLY FOCUSING ON THIS FLEX SPACE HERE. HE HAS NOT IDENTIFIED. WHO HAS COME IN TO THESE THINGS YET? WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION SEVERAL TIMES. SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT'S UNDER DESIGN NOW. THE SITE PLAN IS CHANGING SOMEWHAT.

BUT AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL USERS, NONE HAVE SIGNED UP YET.

AT THE P&Z MEETING, YOU SAID YOU GOT INFORMATION FROM COUNCIL. YES. DO YOU MIND ELABORATING SPECIFICALLY WHO? SEE, HE'S NOT THE MAYOR, RIGHT? NO, HE'S NOT. OKAY.

NOW, I THINK YOU WERE SITTING OVER HERE LAST TIME. YEAH.

YEAH, I BELIEVE YOU MADE A STATEMENT THAT YOU WERE GETTING SOME PHONE CALLS, PEOPLE LOOKING FOR FLEX SPACE. YEAH, I MEAN, FLEX SPACE IS JUST A. I MEAN, I WAS WAITING TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I CAN GO AHEAD. I MEAN, THIS IS, I WASN'T EXPECTING THIS MANY, BUT THESE ARE SPACES FOR, LIKE, SMALL BUSINESSES, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND THEY RENT THE SMALL BUSINESSES, LIKE, I KNOW, YOU SHOP AT THAT VINYL PLACE THAT YOU GO TO. THIS IS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THAT. YEAH, IT IS.

SO MY QUESTION WAS, SINCE I GOT BROUGHT INTO THIS, WILL THE 195

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INDIVIDUAL, OR WHAT? IF THEY WANTED TO, CAN THEY BE CONJOINED? DO YOU KNOW THAT YET? I KNOW THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORGANIZATION. I KNOW WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT I'M JUST ASKING. THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. IF A USER COMES IN AND WANTS MORE SQUARE FEET, CERTAINLY MORE UNITS COULD BE COMBINED. LAUREN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ONES THAT, OKAY, THAT ONE. THANK YOU. YEP, RIGHT THERE. I'LL SPEAK IN A MINUTE IF YOU WANTED TO FINISH. I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU. BUT, UM, SO, LIKE, I WAS ONE OF THE COUNCILS THAT SPOKE THAT THIS IS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, AND THIS LOCATION, I KNOW IT SHOWS IN THE MAP THAT IT HAS A, UM, I'M ON THE INTERACTIVE MAP OF THE CITY. THERE'S SOME KIND OF RIGHT-OF-WAY RIGHT THERE, GOING RIGHT THROUGH THE CORNER. UTILITY EASEMENT. UTILITY EASEMENT.

THAT'S THE, IS THAT THE TRANSMISSION POWER LINE? YES.

YEAH. SO NOT A LOT OF THINGS CAN GO IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THAT TRANSMISSION POWER LINE, RIGHT? RIGHT. THERE ARE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS FROM THE ENCORE EASEMENT. SO, AND THIS FITS IN IT. TO ME, THIS IS WE'RE LIMITING A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO SEE. IT WON'T BE A VAPE SHOP BECAUSE WE HAVE SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

RIGHT. BUT TO ME, I'VE JUST SEEN ONE OF MY FRIENDS JUST POSTED SOMETHING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES AND THEY NEED TO STICK TOGETHER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THIS IS THE TYPE OF PLACE FOR MY NEIGHBOR.

THAT'S AN 18-YEAR-OLD KID THAT WASHES CARS WHENEVER HE GRADUATES. IF HE DON'T WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, HE CAN OPEN HIS DETAIL BUSINESS IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO I'M TRYING A DIVERSITY OF JUST HOUSING, BUT ALSO...

WE GOT TO DIVERSIFY OUR BUSINESSES. I KNOW IT'S METAL BUILDINGS, BUT WE HAVE CODE THAT KEEPS THOSE METAL BUILDINGS LOOKING GOOD. AND IT'S ON A BUSY, BUSY ROAD, AND IT'S OFF THE MAIN HIGHWAY. IT'S JUST, TO ME, THIS IS, AND I SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE ASKED FOR. AND FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES, FOR SERVICES, FOR SO PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE AND THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED. AND BUILD A TAX BASE. AND BUILD A TAX BASE. RIGHT. BUT ON THAT NOTE, I NOTICE YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE PROHIBITED USES.

WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO ALSO RESTRICT ANYTHING AUTOMOTIVE THAT WOULD STACK CARS, LIKE WINDOW TINTING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, I'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT WITH LAUREN BEFORE THE MEETING, AND I'VE ALREADY CONFIRMED THE CLIENT. I RECOMMENDED THAT WE AGREE TO THAT, SO ABSOLUTELY. SO NO AUTOMOTIVE? NO AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, NO AUTOMOTIVE SALES.

NO DETAIL BUSINESS? I'M SORRY? WINDOW TINTING, DETAIL BUSINESS? THAT'S CAR WASH. I THINK THAT'S INCLUDED IN HERE, YES. I THINK DETAILING AND CAR WASHING ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YEAH. I'M JUST... I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT IT. WELL, OKAY, A GOLF COURSE. YOU CAN'T BUILD A GOLF COURSE IN A BUILDING.

BUT A SIMULATION GOLF, WOULD THAT BE ALLOWED? YEAH.

OKAY, BUT THAT'S BECOMING POPULAR.

THAT'S AN IDEAL USE FOR THIS. I'M JUST TRYING NOT TO GET TOO RESTRICTIVE ON THE AUTOMOTIVE PART. JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I DID QUICKLY WRITE DOWN ALL OF THE USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED AFTER YOU TAKE OUT THE AUTO USES. SO, BREW PUB, WINE BAR, BUILDING MATERIALS, LANDSCAPE STORE, FOOD TRUCK, PARK, WOODWORK, BUYER AND SUP, KENNEL OFFICES, POSTAL SERVICE, TASTING ROOM, TAXIDERMIST, VET OFFICE, CIVIC CENTER, TECHNICAL SCHOOL, BREWERY, COMMERCIAL CLEANING FACILITY, COMMERCIAL KITCHEN, CONTRACTOR SHOP, EXCLUDING THE OUTDOOR STORAGE.

INDUSTRIAL AND MANUFACTURING LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL PARK, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, SELF-STORAGE, WAREHOUSE, WHOLESALE. CURRENTLY, THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INDOOR, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO ADD. THAT COULD BE AN SUP, RIGHT? IF YOU WOULD WANT TO ADD IT TO THE CITY. BECAUSE GOLF SIMULATING, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO DO THAT. SO IT'S JUST A MINOR CLARIFICATION, LAUREN.

IT'S NOT IN CITY LIMITS NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS HEARING IS ABOUT, ANNEXING IT. THE FIRST ACT, YES. AND IF WE DON'T, AND THE DEVELOPER DECIDES TO GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP ANYWAY... WE

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CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IF WE DO NOT ANNEX THIS ITEM TONIGHT, THEN THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I'LL DEFER TO CLARK ON ANYTHING FURTHER. NO, THE COUNCIL'S NOT REQUIRED TO ANNEX IT. IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION.

BUT IF IT'S NOT ANNEXED, THEN WE DON'T GO FORWARD. UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THE PROPERTY REMAINS IN THE ETJ, WHERE THE CITY CANNOT CONTROL THE LAND USE AT ALL. A COUPLE OF COUPLE QUESTIONS I HAVE, SO SOME OF THESE CAME FROM THE NEIGHBORS, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'RE WILLING TO DO ON THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY RENDERINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY RENDERINGS RIGHT NOW. ONLY WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN YOUR PACKET.

AGAIN, WE'RE IN THE EARLY STAGES. THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN WITH THE SITE PLAN SUBMISSION.

AT THAT TIME, WE'LL HAVE MUCH MORE DETAIL IN THE RENDERINGS. WE MIGHT EVEN HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER A LOT MORE QUESTIONS.

BUT AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE SHARED WITH YOU. SO THE REASON I ASK THAT IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR 2050 PLAN, THAT AREA IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR LARGER LOTS, SUPPOSED TO BE FOR MORE EXPENSIVE HOMES. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE, FIRST OF ALL, THAT THE FACADE OF THIS BUILDING WILL COMPLEMENT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN THERE. NOW, SOME OF THAT COULD BE THE DESIGN STANDARD OF THE BARN, COULD BE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PITCHES OF ROOF, COULD BE DIFFERENT COLORS, DIFFERENT LANDSCAPING.

I'VE SEEN SOME OF THOSE WITH WHERE HALF OF IT IS LIKE STONE VENEER. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF AN ELEVATED LOOK. I WOULD JUST TRY TO ASK YOU TO JUST KEEP SOME OF THOSE IN MIND. ANOTHER THING IS, NOW YOUR PARKING RATIO, WHAT IS YOUR, MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF, OR MAYBE FOR YOU AS WELL, WHAT'S YOUR PARKING RATIO RIGHT NOW FOR THE PROPERTY? THE PARKING, AS YOU SEE, IT SEEMS SHORT.

AND THE REASON IT SEEMS THAT WAY, AND I THINK LAUREN...

ADDRESSED ON THE SURFACE, BUT SINCE THERE IS NOT A FLEX SPACE USE IN THE CITY OF ANNA, WE'RE CREATING THAT. SO IS IT WAREHOUSE OR IS IT OFFICE? SO WE DID THE BEST WE COULD WITH THE LAND THAT'S THERE, WITH THAT SITE PLAN. NOW, I WILL SAY THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT KIND OF DENSITY. AND, BY THE WAY, THAT SITE PLAN WAS A COLLABORATION WITH CITY STAFF. SO THAT WASN'T JUST THE DEVELOPER'S VISION OF WHAT HE WANTED. ACTUALLY, WE ADDRESSED ENGINEERING COMMENTS AND PLANNING COMMENTS WHILE WE WERE WORKING OUT THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.

SO THAT SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE IS A CULMINATION OF A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE CITY STAFF AND OUR TEAM. AND THAT'S MUCH APPRECIATED. WE REALLY THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH OUR STAFF AND STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR A GREAT JOB AS WELL. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD MAYBE LOOK AT ADDING SOME TYPE OF BUFFER? WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO THAT? THE REASON I ASK THAT IS, ONCE AGAIN, IF WE HAVE HIGHER-END HOMES OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT COMES THERE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIVIDE, BUT IT ALSO BLENDS IN, QUOTE-UNQUOTE CURB APPEAL, RIGHT? COULD YOU BE OPEN TO THAT? YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT THE I-1 ZONING ALREADY REQUIRES SOME BUFFERS AND SOME SIDE YARDS AND LANDSCAPING. WE'RE STARTING ON GRADING ANALYSIS NOW, AND WE ACTUALLY INCLUDED SOME SIDE YARD. IT ALLOWS FOR SLOPING AS WELL, BUT YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, LANDSCAPING BUFFERS ARE A GREAT IDEA IN THIS AREA. PERFECT.

YES, LAURA. AS I SAID BEFORE, THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGES FROM OUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, SO THERE WILL BE A 50-FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK.

AND THEN, TO ANSWER AN EARLIER QUESTION, SIMILAR USES, IF THIS WAS A WAREHOUSE, THE PARKING RATIO WOULD BE 388 TOTAL SPACES, AND IF IT WAS INDUSTRIAL PARK, IT WOULD BE 582. SO THAT'S LIKE 4 TO 1, 5 TO 1 RATIO, GIVE OR TAKE? SO IT'S CLOSER TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK'S REQUIREMENT OF 1.5 SPACES PER 01,000. OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HAD WAS, HOW MANY INGRESS, EGRESS DO YOU HAVE INTO THE LOCATION? BECAUSE THAT WAS A PARTICULAR CONCERN AS WELL. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I DIDN'T QUITE HEAR YOU.

INGRESS, EGRESS, HOW MANY ENTRANCES AND EXITS? OH, HOW MANY ENTRANCES? I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE FIRST PHASE OF IT, WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE POCKET OF THIS FIRST ON THE SOUTHEAST PART. THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TWO JUST BY ITSELF. SO I THINK WE MIGHT GET UP TO FOUR MAX, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO SETTLE ON THREE

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FOR THIS TOTAL PROPERTY, I THINK. ALSO, I WANT TO POINT OUT ALSO THAT WESTWIDE IS A 120-FOOT WIDE RIGHT-OF-WAY UNDER THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN. SO IT'S GOING TO GET IMPROVED. IT'S GOING TO LOOK TOTALLY DIFFERENT, TOTALLY REDESIGNED. NOT BY US, BUT I THINK THAT'S A CIP PROJECT, RIGHT? SINCE WE'RE ASKING FUTURE WISHES, CAN YOU MAKE YOUR ENTRANCES LOOK PRESENTABLE? LIKE SOME TYPE OF MONUMENT SIGNS? DEFINE PRESENTABLE. OTHER THAN A ROUND PORCH PAVEMENT ROAD.

AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, I THINK, IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT.

THAT'S A GOOD WORD. SURE, IT WILL MAKE A MESS. THANK YOU.

AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, YES.

AND THEN FINAL QUESTION FOR STAFF. DO WE NEED TO PUT ANY INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE? DO THEY HAVE WATER? DO THEY HAVE SEWER? DO THEY HAVE ALL THEIR OWN, OR DO WE NEED TO BRING THAT UP TO THEM? SO THIS IS A UNIQUE PROPERTY IN THAT IT IS ENCUMBERED WITH A NUMBER OF EASEMENTS. IT WAS REQUIRED. IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST. PROPERTIES TO GET THE EASEMENT FOR THE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO VAN ALSTYNE. SO THEY HAVE THE ACCESS. I THINK JOSEPH PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT ME TO ANSWER ANY MORE THAN THAT, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. OH, THAT'S FINE.

JUST A QUICK NOTE, THOUGH.

THIS IS IN OUR 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS IS URBAN LIVING, AND PRIMARY LAND USE IS TOWNHOMES, DUPLEXES, CONDOMINIUMS, APARTMENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING, RETAIL OFFICES. PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. SO THIS DOES FIT, RIGHT? OR WE CAN HAVE... AND SECONDARY USES. AND SECONDARY USES IS WE REZONE IT, YEAH, A SMALL LOT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THIS DOES FIT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YES, WE ARE KIND OF MAKING A FLEX SPACE, BUT IT'S AN OFFICE FLEX SPACE.

WE'RE NOT GOING AGAINST OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT ALL. SO, FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, LAUREN WAS CORRECT. THERE IS SANITARY SEWER AVAILABLE NEAR THE SITE, ONE OF OUR LARGE TRUNK MAINS THAT TAKE IT DOWN DIRECTLY TO THE HURRICANE CREEK PLANT. THERE IS A 12-INCH WATER LINE THAT RUNS ALONG THE 455 FRONTAGE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO. AND THEN FROM ACCESSIBILITY STANDPOINT, AS THIS HAS JUST GONE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT STAGES, AS THE DEVELOPER HAS MENTIONED, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM AS TO... WHAT THOSE ENTRANCES WILL LOOK LIKE FROM THE NEED FOR DECELERATION LANES, THE NEED FOR OTHER POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS, MAYBE A LITTLE WIDER TO ALLOW FOR A WIDER IN, DOUBLE OUT, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

455 IS A TXDOT ROAD. THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF EXPANDING THE BRIDGES FURTHER OUT TO THE EAST. SO AT SOME POINT, TXDOT WILL PROBABLY DO SOMETHING WITH 455. IT IS NOT ON THEIR CURRENT. FIVE-YEAR HORIZON NOW FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TXDOT PERMITTING PROCESS.

THEY WILL HAVE TO GET ACCESS PERMITS FROM TXDOT. TYPICALLY, TXDOT DOES REQUIRE THAT THERE BE DECELERATION LANES WITH SOMETHING SUCH AS THIS VOLUME.

SO THOSE WOULD ALL BE DETAILS AS WE GO THROUGH THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER.

TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ADHERING TO AND DOING THE BEST THEY CAN WITH WHAT THEY'VE GOT.

PERFECT. WHO IS COVERING THE 12-INCH PIPELINES? WHO'S COVERING? YEAH, IS THAT CITY EXPENSE OR IS THAT THE DEVELOPER EXPENSE? SO THE 12-INCH LINE THAT'S THERE IS ALREADY EXISTING ALONG THAT FRONTAGE. SO THEY WOULD NEED TO CONNECT TO IT AND JUST TAP OFF OF IT, BRING IT THROUGH THEIR SITE.

WE WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THAT THEY STUB OUT TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST, SO THAT WHEN THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES DO DEVELOP.

AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE, THERE WOULD BE A STUB OUT.

FOR THOSE TO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY, GET A SECOND POINT OF ACCESS OF WATER AS THOSE BEGIN TO REDEVELOP OR DEVELOP IN THAT AREA. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE, IF WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS FORWARD TODAY, THEY'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH ZONING, THEY'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING. ARE THEY GOING TO EVENTUALLY COME BACK TO US FOR THE FINAL PRODUCT? DON'T KNOW IF THE SITE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK OR NOT. SO, IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THE PROCESS IS THAT THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEN THE SITE PLAN IS STAFF APPROVED. STAFF APPROVED. SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO VOTE ON THIS? THIS WOULD PRETTY MUCH BE THE ONE CHANCE WE WOULD HAVE FOR IT? CORRECT. OKAY.

LAWRENCE, REAL QUICK, THIS PART OF THE HURRICANE CREEK DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THAT, WHERE IS THE 21 ACRES THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GIVING TO THE CITY FOR THE PARK? ISN'T IT RIGHT NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, LIKE TOUCHING IT NORTH? SO NO LAND HAS BEEN DEDICATED AS OF THIS TIME. WHERE'S THE DISCUSSIONS BEEN? THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST AND THE NORTH, OR NOT EAST, THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST AND NORTHWEST IS THE PARKS AT HURRICANE CREEK. THE

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TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY NORTH IS PART OF THE VILLAGES OF HURRICANE CREEK, AND THEN THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS CURRENTLY ZONED MULTIFAMILY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? ALL RIGHT.

NO, GO RIGHT AHEAD. ALL RIGHT, IT'S BEEN A FUN EVENING. YEAH.

LOOK, I KNOW THIS IS AN ANNEXATION. WE'VE DONE SOME OF THIS ALREADY. THESE QUESTIONS, FRANKLY, AREN'T EVEN APPROPRIATE, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT FROM YOU. THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS FLEX SPACE, AND WE'VE BEEN TELLING YOU WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN YOUR BUILD-OUT.

HAPPY BUSINESS OWNERS, I THINK, IN SHORT. I DRIVE BY ONE OF THESE. .TYPE? OF DEVELOPMENTS ON THE WAY TO GO. PLAY GOLF ALL THE TIME. AND IT WAS ALREADY SOLD OUT BEFORE THEY FINISHED BUILDING IT. AND WHAT I SAW GOING, THERE WAS A GOLF SIMULATOR. I SAW, LIKE, A KNIFE SHOP. I THINK THERE'S EVEN AN ARCHERY PLACE, SO THAT'S INDOOR ARCHERY. AND THEN... SOME MOM AND POP SHOPS TYPE THING. IT WASN'T AS LARGE AS THIS, BUT IT'S ON A BEATEN PATH TO AND FROM THE GOLF COURSE. THERE'S REALLY, REALLY NICE SUBDIVISIONS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

IT'S JUST AN ENJOYABLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO ENTERTAIN THEMSELVES AND RECREATE, BUT ALSO FOR MOM AND POP SHOTS TO SHOW UP. SKY'S THE LIMIT. I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE... YOU KNOW, THE ONES I MENTIONED, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN ARCHERY PLACE GO IN THERE. I MEAN, I LIKE ARCHERY, TOO. I USED TO TAKE MY SONS TO GO PLAY. I WENT TO SHOOT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MEMORABILIA, YOU KNOW, BASEBALL TRAINING PLACES, YOU KNOW, EVEN, YOU KNOW. DO YOU, QUICK QUESTION TO KIND OF INTERRUPT. DO YOU? I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING WITH YOUR ASK, AND I RESPECT IT. DO YOU FEEL RESTRICTING LIGHT AUTOMOTIVE IS GOING TO HURT YOU? NO. OKAY.

HONEST ANSWER. I APPRECIATE THAT. NO. I'M GLAD. YEAH, I LIKE THE COLLABORATION UP HERE.

IT'S A VERY REFRESHING EVENING.

WE HAVE PEOPLE IN ANNA. WHO ARE WORKING IN OTHER FLEX SPACES LIKE THIS THAT ARE MEMBERS OF OUR CHAMBER. THEY COME TO OUR CHAMBER UP HERE IN ANNA AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OTHER PARTS THAT ARE NOT ANNA. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE? YEAH. I CAN SEE THE EDC OFFICE IN THERE. I THINK YOU HAVE A NICER FACILITY HERE. I'D LOVE FOR THEM TO BE HERE. I'M ALWAYS CAREFUL NOT TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS. TRY TO BE, ANYWAY. OUR SPACE AROUND HERE IS EXPENSIVE. IT'S CORPORATE EXPENSIVE, FRANCHISE EXPENSIVE. WE'VE GOT SQUARE FOOTAGE NOW THAT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $40, $70 A SQUARE FOOT BEFORE TRIPLE NET. THAT IS NOT MOM-AND-POP SHOPS. RIGHT. BIG MONEY. THAT'S $7,000, $10,000, $15,000, $20,000 IN SALES, WITH A WHOLE LOT OF PROFIT MARGIN TO HANDLE THAT. WHAT DO YOU PERCEIVE, I KNOW IT'S PREMATURE, PROBABLY, BUT WHENEVER YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR DEAL TOGETHER, WHAT DO YOU PERCEIVE? THAT? THE RENTAL FEE WILL BE PER SQUARE FOOT? AND YOU CAN GIVE ME A RANGE OR... I WISH I COULD. I'M AN ONLY CIVIL ENGINEER. I'M NOT A BROKER.

BUT I CAN FIND OUT FROM MY CLIENT TO SEE WHAT, I'M SURE HE'S GOT A PRO FORMA AND HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU GUYS A RANGE, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THAT TONIGHT. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. I WASN'T ONE THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE NEIGHBOR COMMENTS. I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHENEVER A COLLISION BODY REPAIR SHOP WAS GOING TO OPEN ON THE ROAD, ENTERING SOME BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS. IT KEEPS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT KIND OF BUSY. WE WANT THAT BUSINESS TO THRIVE, BUT WE ALSO WANT THEM TO BE AWARE OF THE ROAD THAT THEY'RE ON.

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WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, I WON'T. YOUR PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES. TO BE VERY AWARE THAT THIS SPEAKS VERY LOUDLY OF OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY. I CAN GIVE YOU A SHORT LIST OF A WHOLE LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO BE IN YOUR FACILITY. WE HAVE MULTIPLE GIFT BOUTIQUES. WE HAD A POPCORN PURVEYOR HERE AT ONE TIME THAT THEIR RENTS WERE KILLING HER AND SHE WANTED TO HAVE IT. SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER.

WE HAVE GAMERS. WE HAVE HVAC COMPANIES. WE HAVE FLOORING COMPANIES. WE HAVE DIY-TYPE PLACES, AND THE SKY'S THE LIMIT ON THAT ONE, BETWEEN THE ELECTRONICS, THE RC CARS, AND OTHER RADIO-CONTROLLED ITEMS. WE HAVE MULTIPLE GIFT, FLORAL, WEDDING. CLOTHING, APPAREL, SOME SMALL MANUFACTURING. YOU MENTIONED ARCHERY. I ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S BUSTING AT THE SEAMS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD HERE, WHO IS DOING KNIVES AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND HE'S GOT TO MAKE THE LEAP, BUT HE DOESN'T WANT TO LEAP INTO $70 TRIPLE NET. AND SO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU'VE GOT IS MORE IN LINE. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO CAR WRAPS. IF THE CAR WRAPS ARE INSIDE THE WAREHOUSE, IS THAT PERMISSIBLE? NO. OR IS IT NOT PERMISSIBLE? CAR PARTS.

THEY ACTUALLY DO THE WRAPPINGS.

OH, YEAH, THE WRAPS. AND IT'S WINDY AROUND HERE, SO DOING WRAPS AROUND HERE ARE CHALLENGING.

BUT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AUTO REPAIR. I'M TALKING ABOUT DECOR. YEAH. WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT, LIKE A WINDOW TENT, YOU'VE GOT TO BE PUT ON A SCHEDULE. IT TAKES THEM AN HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS TO DO A CAR. IT GOES OUTSIDE.

ANOTHER ONE COMES IN. IT'S DONE. IT GOES OUTSIDE. THEN ANOTHER, THEN ANOTHER, THEN ANOTHER. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT CARS STACKING. SURE. SO IF THEY'VE GOT A WRAP AND THEY DON'T STACK THE CARS, THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE PERMISSIBLE.

LET ME, JUST TO CLARIFY, LIKE, THEN WHERE DOES A PLACE LIKE THAT OPEN? IT'S LIKE A WINDOW TENT SHOP. I KNOW.

WHERE WOULD A WINDOW TENT SHOP OPEN IN ANNA, IF NOT IN A PLACE LIKE THIS? STAND ALONE. OKAY. SO, I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, A CAR WRAP, I'M LOOKING AT HAVING MY CAR WRAPPED, AS A MATTER OF FACT, AND IT'S IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, AND SO IT'S NOT A NICE PLACE AT ALL. THEY DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. I THINK THE CIRCULATION OF STAGING VEHICLES FOR THE NEXT ONE, ON LINE TYPE THINGS WHICH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE RUB MIGHT BE.

BUT WHAT WE COULD DO IS AGREE TO THE LIST WE HAVE, AND IF NEED BE, WE CAN AMEND IT LATER. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CAR WRAPS PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO COME INTO THE SAME PLACE.

CERTAINLY, WINDOW 10 IS GOING TO HAVE THE SAME KIND OF ISSUE, I WOULD SAY. SURE. I DON'T WANT TO. I WAS JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. IF IT WAS SELF-CONTAINED, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE REALLY GOOD MANAGEMENT, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, TO KEEP IT FROM BEING ANYTHING LESS, WHICH IS, FRANKLY, I THINK A BIG CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE SPOKEN, IS THAT IT'S GOT TO BE A STELLAR OPERATION. IT CAN'T BE WHAT SO MANY OF US RECOGNIZE IS RUN-DOWN INDUSTRIAL. IT NEEDS TO BE ATTRACTIVE. WE HAVE A VERY, VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST NORTH OF IT, AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE STREET AROUND, THERE WILL BE A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THERE, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME REALLY WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE OVER THERE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FACADE IMPROVED. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO ANNA IS VERY MUCH NEEDED. I HAD HOPED THAT WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT OUT THERE NEAR HOLT CATERPILLAR, BUT IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT THAT WAY. AND ONCE THE BODY REPAIR SHOP OPENED UP, IT KIND OF REINFORCED, WHAT KIND OF... STUFF'S GOING TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AND SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT THE FACADE AND THE PROPERTY BE STELLAR.

RIGHT. THANK YOU. SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARVER, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

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MOTION PASSES 4-1-1. THANK YOU.

WE'RE NOT REALLY DONE YET.

WE'RE NOT QUITE DONE YET.

WE'VE GOT ONE MORE. H, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER OR DISCUSS ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH PLANNING DEVELOPMENT ZONING FOR 29.8 ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST STREET, FM 455, 2,670 FEET WEST OF SANDRIDGE. BOULEVARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH AN APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-08-1807 P.D 26-0001.

PLANNING MANAGER LAUREN MECHIE. THIS ITEM IS THE ZONING FOR THE TRINITY CREEK INDUSTRIAL TRACK, AND IT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8 15. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

TERRELL CULBERTSON. I KNOW YOU KNOW THE DRILL, TOO, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YES, I DO. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, PRO TEM, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS TERRELL CULBERTSON. I LIVE AT 10429 COUNTY ROAD, 289, ANNA, WHERE I'VE LIVED FOR 32 YEARS.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I HAVE STOOD BEFORE YOU... AND ATTENDED MANY COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND I AM REALLY ENCOURAGED BY THE CONVERSATION AND THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU'VE HAD THIS EVENING ON THESE ITEMS. I DON'T REMEMBER EVER HAVING THIS MUCH CONVERSATION AND INTERACTION, AND KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU FOR THAT. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS AND THAT YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS, AS WELL AS... HAVING CONSIDERATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY. THREE OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HERE THIS EVENING, AS WELL AS MYSELF, HAVE METAL BUILDINGS ON OUR PROPERTIES. WE DON'T TRY TO DISGUISE THOSE AND CALL THEM UPSCALE OR FLEX SPACE. WE CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE. THEY'RE BARNS. THEY'RE METAL BARNS. A DEPICTION THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET THIS EVENING, THINGS ON PAGE 1180.

THESE ARE METAL BARNS, SO LET'S NOT CALL THEM ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE. THE 2050 MASTER LAND USE PLAN UPDATE. SHOWS THAT THERE'S A SMALL SLIVER OF THIS PROPERTY ON THE WESTERN EDGE THAT IS YELLOW, WHICH IS SUBURBAN LIVING, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES, NOT METAL BARNS.

THE REST OF IT IS, IN FACT, THE MIXED DENSITY, WHICH IS...

AGAIN, PRIMARY USE, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES, NOT METAL BARNS. THE ONLY PLACE, AND IT'S BEEN SAID HERE THIS EVENING, THERE'S NO CATEGORY CALLED FLEX SPACE. THAT TERM DOES APPEAR IN THE 2050 LAND USE PLAN UNDER THE MIXED DENSITY CATEGORY, BUT THERE'S NO DEFINITION. SO I'M A LITTLE... I'M A LITTLE PUZZLED BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. SO I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT THIS EVENING IN YOUR DELIBERATIONS. THE FINAL POINT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, I'VE LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR 32 YEARS.

WE'VE PASSED BY THIS PROPERTY MANY TIMES.

THERE USED TO BE A FARMHOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY. THAT WAS A QUAINT, RUSTIC HOME WITH WEATHERED CEDAR SIDING, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY IRIS FLOWER BEDS, WHITE ONES, YELLOW ONES, PURPLE, OTHER COLORS, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY MATURE, LIVE OAK

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TREES, BIG TREES ON THE TOP OF THE HILL THERE. I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW MORE MINUTES, A FEW MORE SECONDS. OKAY. I JUST ASK THAT YOU GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO RESTRICTING THE BULLDOZING OF THOSE TREES. IF WE LOSE THOSE, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THEM BACK IN OUR LIFETIME. SO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? IF NOT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8.19 P.M. AND QUESTIONS FROM CONCERNS FROM THE COUNCIL AND DISCUSSION. MY ONLY REQUEST WOULD BE TO STAFF, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER YOU GUYS HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, THAT CURB APPEAL IS TOP OF MIND. SOME OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE LISTED AS WELL. I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT YOU GUYS INCLUDE SOME OF THIS BECAUSE. YOU KNOW, IF IT HAPPENS TO PASS, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN CAUSE AN ISSUE LATER ON. I THINK WE'VE HAD A PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYONE SITS, BUT MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR LAUREN. THE TREE PROTECTION, COULD THAT BE POISED ONTO THESE TREES? THAT MR. CULBERSON IS REFERRING TO? OUR TREE PRESERVATION PLAN, IT REQUIRES PROTECTION OF SPECIFIC SPECIES THAT ARE 18 INCHES OR GREATER, ALL SPECIES THAT ARE 24 INCHES OR GREATER. IF IT'S WITHIN 10 FEET OF THE PROPERTY LINE, ANY SPECIES THAT IS 18 INCHES OR GREATER, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REQUIRED MITIGATION.

ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES PROTECTION OR MITIGATION. SO THIS IS, I GUESS, A QUESTION BACK TO YOU. DO THESE TREES MEET THOSE QUALIFICATIONS? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. THERE ARE BERRIES IN THE TREE, IN THE FENCE LINE. THERE ARE LARGE, LIVE TREES, AND THEY'RE STILL THERE. WHEN THEY BULLDOZED AND TOOK IT OUT WITHIN A TWO-DAY PERIOD, THEY LEFT THE TREES, AND THEY'RE STILL THERE, AND THEY'RE STILL STANDING.

AND I HOPE THAT THEY CAN STAY THAT WAY. THAT'S WHY I'M IN CORN. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE IN NATURE. THESE ARE LARGE. THESE ARE MATURE TREES.

THEY'VE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN US. THEY WERE MATURE 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO. SO, LAUREN, WITH THAT REQUIREMENT, IF THAT TREE MEETS THE MINIMUM, DO THEY LEAVE IT? IF IT'S THE 18 INCHES OR GREATER. SO THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT THEY PROTECT THE TREE, AND IF, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY CAN'T PROTECT THE TREE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE IT WITH AN EQUIVALENT NUMBER OF INCHES. SO IF IT'S A 36-INCH TREE, THEN THEY HAVE TO REPLACE IT WITH, HOWEVER MANY TREES EQUALS 36 INCHES. LAUREN, HOW LONG HAS THAT REQUIREMENT BEEN IN PLACE? THAT SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN IN PLACE LONG BEFORE I WAS HERE. A RESIDENT HAD, ACTUALLY, A NEIGHBOR, HAD BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL MANY DECADES AGO. I SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT.

QUESTION FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE. SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO AS TONIGHT YOU'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CROWD. ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS? ARE YOU WILLING TO FLEX FOR THE FLAT SPACE? NO PUN INTENDED. SURE. CONCERNING THE TREES, WE'VE ALREADY PERFORMED A TREE SURVEY ON THE SITE. AS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE'VE GOT TO GATHER OUR GIVENS, TOPOGRAPHY NOTWITHSTANDING, WHICH WE DID. BUT WE ALSO DID A TREE SURVEY SO THAT WE COULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

SO IS THAT A YES? LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR THE ONES THAT WERE DEMOED BY THE HOUSE. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU COULD DO TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT? IT'S HARD TO SAY STANDING HERE TONIGHT, AND I WILL SAY THIS. IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY THAT SITE, AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE, THERE'S A LOT OF FALL ACROSS THAT AS YOU GO FROM...

EAST TO WEST, IT FALLS OFF A LOT. SO THE CHALLENGE ON THIS SIDE IS GRADING.

WHENEVER YOU HAVE TO MOVE DIRT IN AND AROUND TREES, IT'S REALLY HARD TO PRESERVE THEM IN THEIR NATURAL STATE.

BECAUSE IF THE TREE TRUCK IS DOWN AT THE GROUND HERE AND YOU HAVE

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TO FILL IT UP.

TO MAKE THE GRADING WORK TO MEET ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, SUCH AS DRAINAGE. FIRE TRUCK MINIMUM GRADES FOR FIRE LANES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT MAY BE THAT YOU EITHER HAVE TO CUT OR FILL UP AROUND A TREE TRUNK. AND A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS, IF YOU DO A WHOLE LOT OF CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE DRIP LINE OF A TREE, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO SURVIVE. NO, IT USUALLY WON'T. SO ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IT AND LOOKING AT WAYS TO MINIMIZE THAT.

BUT CAN WE SPECIFICALLY SAY, GO TIE A RIBBON AROUND EVERY TREE YOU WANT TO SAVE, AND WE'LL SAVE IT? I CAN'T SAY THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, ALL WE WOULD. UNDERSTANDABLY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DIRT WORK DOES CAUSE SOME COMPLEXITY. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT IF YOU WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO THESE RESIDENTS, IT WOULD PROBABLY HELP ANY FUTURE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU BRING TO BY MAINTAINING THAT POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AS WELL. YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT HERE AND ENGAGING WITH US. HEARING FROM THE RESIDENTS, HEARING THEIR CONCERNS, AND ALSO BEING WILLING TO CONSIDER SOME OF IT WHERE WE CAN. I THINK THAT'S A LOT WE CAN ASK FOR. IT'S A LOT MORE THAN OTHER DEVELOPERS HAVE GIVEN US. SO UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK IT'S FULLY WHAT YOU GUYS WANT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A WAY. BECAUSE IT COMES DOWN TO, IF IT STAYS OUT IN THE ETJ, THERE'S NO CONTROL, AND THEY COULD STICK ANYTHING OUT THERE. SO IT JUST KIND OF COMES DOWN TO THE RISK TOLERANCE. COULD ANYTHING COME UP THERE IN THE FUTURE? SURE. YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU GUYS, BUT AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE... IF THEY CAN DEAL WITH THE INGRESS, EGRESS, IF THEY CAN LOOK AT THE PARKING, IF THEY CAN WORK ON SOME OF THE TREES, IF THEY CAN CREATE A BETTER ENTRANCE AND CREATE SOME TYPE OF BUFFER WITH SOME TREES AROUND, SO IF ANYTHING THAT DEVELOPS THERE, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, AN EYESORE IN THE FUTURE. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH SOME OF THOSE, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. ARE THOSE TREES VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD NOW? SO THEY'RE LIKE 50 FEET AWAY, 40 FEET AWAY? OKAY. SO, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. LET'S NOT DO THE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE AUDIENCE.

I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. I HAVE TO STICK TO THE GUIDELINES.

CLARK, YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES, MAYOR PRO TEM. I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT IF THE ZONING IS NOT APPROVED, AND IT'S WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION WHETHER OR NOT YOU DO APPROVE IT, BUT IF IT'S NOT APPROVED, THEN THE CITY WILL BE REQUIRED TO DISANNEX THE PROPERTY, AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE UTJ.

THANK YOU. AND I APOLOGIZE, MR. CULBERSON, I DIDN'T DO A SPECIAL USE FOR THAT. I HAVE A QUESTION, MAYBE A REQUEST FROM YOU. IF THIS PASSES TONIGHT, I KNOW YOUR RENDERING HERE IS JUST FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES ONLY, BUT LIKE THESE NEIGHBORS, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST METAL. COULD YOU PUT SOME TYPE OF MAYBE STONE VENEER OR SOMETHING TO MAKE IT MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING? I CAN ASK MY CLIENT, I'M SURE HE'LL BE ACCOMMODATING, TO, WHAT, TO, THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE HOW MUCH. AND, YOU KNOW, MASONRY COSTS MONEY. YES, IT DOES. ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT HE WANTS TO APPEASE YOU, NOT APPEASE YOU, BUT PLEASE YOU WITH WHAT'S GOING TO BE PUT THERE. AND SO IT'S NOT HIS INTENTION TO GO ON THE CHEAP ON EVERYTHING.

SO. WELL, I'LL BRING IT TO HIM, AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT HE KNOWS IT'S A BIG CONCERN HERE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT TONIGHT, SO YOU'RE VERY WELL INFORMED BEFORE YOU COME IN FRONT OF US AGAIN. AND I HOPE YOU LISTEN AND MAYBE GO BACK TO RE-LISTEN. WELL, THAT'S MY FAULT. YEAH, YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND, RIGHT? AND TO ANSWER SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT HUGE TRANSMISSION POWER LINE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. THAT BACK CORNER, THAT NORTHWEST CORNER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BACK THERE, RIGHT? IT POTENTIALLY COULD BE A DRY POND FOR DETENTION. A DRY POND, YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAD A NEIGHBOR THAT'S AN IDEAL SPOT FOR THAT. YEAH, WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT DETENTION. SO THE BUFFER TO OUR ETJ NEIGHBORS IS THERE.

THAT ADDS A LOT TO IT. AND THAT TRANSMISSION LINE AIN'T GOING NOWHERE. AND NOBODY WANTS TO BUILD NEXT TO THOSE THINGS. AND THE STONE, MAYBE YOU'VE HEARD ALL OF OUR CONCERNS. IT'S JUST... I THINK YOU'VE BEEN VERY WELL,

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UNLIKE SOME OTHER DEVELOPERS, YOU'VE WELCOMED CONCERNS AND YOU'VE BEEN PRETTY FLEXIBLE WITH THE FLEX SPACE, AS MANNY'S COMPLIMENTING JOKE EARLIER.

BUT IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I HAVE ONE MORE POINT I WANT TO MAKE, AND I DON'T MEAN TO STEP OUT ON THIS, BUT THIS GOES BACK TO, I'VE BEEN IN THIS CITY 18 YEARS NOW. I WAS ON THE COUNCIL BEFORE AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A STICKING POINT FOR ME IS THAT PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE ETJ DON'T HAVE A VOICE.

AND THEY COME UP HERE AND THEY'RE HEARD, AND IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE PUBLIC SHOWED UP AND THEY NEED SOMEBODY UP HERE TO LISTEN TO THEM. AND SO THAT'S TO MY POINT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED OVER AT THE COUNCILWOMAN, HERNDON OVER HERE AND WE WATCHED A NEIGHBORHOOD BE BUILT ADJACENT TO HERS. AND THEY WIPED OUT EVERY TREE. TO BUILD THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND MANY OF THOSE TREES WERE WITHIN THOSE GUIDELINES THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT MECHANISM THERE IS TO VERIFY, TO CLASSIFY, TO CATEGORIZE, AND TO PINPOINT THOSE TREES THAT NEED TO BE SAVED ON SAID PROPERTY.

AND MAKE SURE THAT EITHER THEY'RE SAVED OR THEY'RE REPLACED. THAT WE KEEP, YOU KNOW, TO OUR OWN REGULATIONS IN HONOR OF THE CITIZENS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABOUT TO PUT OUT FOR THIS. SO WE HAVE MADE SEVERAL POLICY CHANGES INTERNALLY. THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN IS NOW INCLUDED IN THE ENGINEERING CIVIL SET AFTER IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY PLANNING. I GO OUT, DALLIN WALKER, OUR PARKS PLANNING MANAGER, SOMETIMES WILL GO OUT SINCE HE KNOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT TREES THAN I DO.

THAT'S WEIRD DOING WHAT WE CAN.

IT IS DIFFICULT WITH A LOT OF THE EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WITHIN THAT ORDINANCE. THE FIRE LANES ARE EXEMPT. THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT EXEMPTIONS LIKE THAT. CUT AND FILL DRAINAGE IS AN EXEMPTION. IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT ORDINANCE IS NOT BEING MET, THAT MAY BE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL LATER. IF I MAY.

JUST TO ADD TO THAT, ONE THING THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THAT IS TO, IF IT'S AMENABLE, IS TO POSSIBLY TABLE THIS AND EXPAND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE ONLY DOING THIS PARCEL AND TAKING A LOOK AT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT JUST TO ENSURE THAT IT'S THE WAY YOU GUYS WANT IT.

TO SAY THAT THERE'S SURETIES IN THERE IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, THEN THAT CAN COME BACK AND HAVE CLARITY FOR YOU EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO.

AND ENSURE THAT YOU GET WHAT YOU'RE WANTING ON THAT SIDE OF IT. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, EXPANDING THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SO THERE'S CLARITY. SO I THINK THAT'S AN EVEN PATH FORWARD.

IF WE DO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, I WOULD JUST SAY, BRING SOME RENDERINGS OF MAYBE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK. YOU KNOW, THAT'S IF IT DOESN'T PASS TONIGHT, OR IF YOU GUYS TABLE IT.

CLARK, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE PREVIOUS MOTION? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WORRY ABOUT. IT WOULD HAVE NO EFFECT ON THE ANNEXATION. WE'LL JUST KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, RIGHT? SO THIS IS FOR THE ZONING, SO THIS WOULD, YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT TO A DATE, TIME, AND PLACE CERTAIN. ARE YOU OPEN TO THAT, AND MAYBE MEETING WITH OUR STAFF? AND COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. BUT WOULD THAT OPEN THE PD? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. WE'RE ASKING, WE'RE KIND OF, SOME OF OUR ASKS THAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY DURING THE ANNEXATION, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO IT.

WE'RE TRYING TO HOLD YOUR FEET TO THE WALL. WHAT'S THAT, WHATEVER THAT SAYING IS, FIRE. SO WE WOULD JUST KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. AND WE DON'T VOTE ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT. YOU'RE ALREADY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. AND THEN NEXT MEETING, IN TWO WEEKS, YOU WOULD COME BACK. BUT IN BETWEEN THEN, YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A MEETING WITH LAUREN AND CALEB. AND KIND OF IRON OUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THEN WE VOTE ON IT NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN THIS FORM. I KIND OF WANT TO REVISIT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, CALEB? I THINK IF I WAS READING WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE REGARDING THE TREES AND ENSURING THAT... WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THE TREES AND MAKE SURE THE FACADE IS LOOKING... WE'RE JUST TRYING

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TO PROTECT OURSELVES IN THE CITY. YEAH, IF THAT'S ALL YOU WANT, IT'S AS SIMPLE, THAT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS A TWO-PAGE AGREEMENT, JUST OUTLINING WHAT EXACTLY THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEING TO. AS FAR AS WHAT TREES ARE GOING TO BE SAVED, AND IF THERE ARE RAMIFICATIONS FOR THEM REMOVING THEM, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO REPLACE THEM ACCORDINGLY. I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I THINK THE GUY'S GOING TO DO WHATEVER HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO DO TONIGHT, BECAUSE HE ALREADY HAS, AND IF THE TREE, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT GOING TO, BACK THEN.

WHEN THAT HAPPENED, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE STAFF. NOW WE HAVE THE STAFF. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. I MEAN, I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD REALLY BE, MAYBE IT'S LAUREN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT OUR TREE MITIGATION PLAN IS SUFFICIENT TO COVER IT? WE DIDN'T HAVE IT PRIOR. WE CREATED THAT BECAUSE OF THE NEED AND THE FACT THAT WE RAN INTO THIS SITUATION BEFORE, BUT NOW WE HAVE THAT. IS IT SUFFICIENT TO? TO MAKE SURE THAT WE... I'LL GO YOU ONE FURTHER ON THAT. SO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENED ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT IS NEXT TO WHERE KELLY LIVES HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS. UNDER TWO PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS, WHEN JIM WAS HERE, WHEN WE HAD A FULL STAFF. AND NOBODY DID ANYTHING... WE HAVE MORE STAFF NOW. .TO. MONITOR WHETHER THOSE TREES WERE KEPT OR WHETHER THEY WERE PROPERLY... CATEGORIZED, OR WHETHER ANYTHING... I EVEN QUESTIONED IT. RIGHT. COULD WE DO AN AMENDMENT WITHOUT OPENING UP THE DA? I DON'T... I CAN'T... SO CAN WE DO AN AMENDMENT INSTEAD OF OPENING UP THE DA? JUST TO KIND OF GET THE BALL MOVING? AS PART OF THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT, YOU COULD ADD TO IT AS FAR AS THE TREES ARE CONCERNED. I WOULD BE HESITANT ABOUT ADDING THE MASONRY REQUIREMENTS DUE TO THE STATE LAW.

UNDERSTANDABLE. THIS IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. YEAH, I THINK THE HAPPY MEDIUM IS IF WE CAN ADD AN AMENDMENT...

FOR THE TREES, IT KIND OF HELPS US MOVE FORWARD. IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT TREES ANYWAYS ON THE OUTLINE OF YOUR PROPERTY. SO, YEAH, I'M DOWN WITH THAT. WELL, IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT, I'VE BEEN DYING TO SAY THIS.

THE FIRST THING I SAID WHEN I CAME UP HERE WAS THAT WE DID A TREE SURVEY. THAT WAS THE FIRST THING OUR TEAM DID BECAUSE IT WAS A CONCERN OF OURS, TOO. I HAVE SHOT DOWN MY OWN DEVELOPMENTS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH BEFORE BECAUSE OF THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE WAS THERE. AND I RECOMMENDED TO MY BOSSES AT THE TIME, I SAID, IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS PROPERTY, THAT'S FINE, BUT JUST BE PREPARED.

YOU CAN HAVE $2 MILLION WORTH OF TREE MITIGATION FEES, NOT TO MENTION THE PRESERVATION OF CERTAIN TREES. SO IT IS A SERIOUS CONCERN OF OURS. THE ARCHITECT WHO'S DOING THE SITE PLANNING IS TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT. THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL HAVE, WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY IT. SO IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. SO HAVING A DOCUMENT IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT IS KIND OF REDUNDANT. LASTLY, I WILL SAY THAT THE TREES THAT ARE PARTICULARLY IN QUESTION, I WANT TO LOOK AT THEM AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO SAVE THEM SOMEHOW. IF WE CAN, WE WILL. IF WE CAN'T, THEN IT GETS ADDED TO THE BILL ON THE TREE MITIGATION PLAN.

SO, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SKIRT AROUND ANYTHING.

YES, SIR. YEAH, YOU'VE BEEN PRETTY FLEXIBLE. COUNSEL, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WE HAVE TIME TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. AND DOING THIS TONIGHT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBOR'S COMMENTS. AND WE CAME UP WITH THAT POLICY. YOU AND I SPECIFICALLY SAT THROUGH. A WHOLE LOT OF EDUCATION WITH TEXAS A&M, OUR DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. YEAH, WE DID REDO IT. IT'S NOT NEW. IT'S NEW. WE MADE SOME AMENDMENTS TO IT, INCLUDING THE MITIGATION FEE.

BEFORE, THERE WAS NO FEE SCHEDULE ASSOCIATED WITH A TREE BEING REMOVED, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CREATED AN ACCOUNT FOR. NOBODY HAS HAD TO PAY ATTENTION, THOUGH. YEAH, SO HERE'S WHAT I'LL TELL STAFF. BECAUSE THERE WERE PRESERVATION THINGS IN PLACE BEFORE, AND TREES STILL DISAPPEARED.

IF YOU GO TO PAUL PARK, THERE IS A GAPING HOLE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PAUL PARK, FACING BROOKSHEARS AND 455. NOW STAFF, THIS IS NOT THE STAFF THAT WERE THERE AT THE TIME, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH. AS OUR DEVELOPERS HAVE HAD TO HEAR IT TONIGHT, AND Y'ALL ARE GOING TO GET TO HEAR IT. WE COME UP WITH ALL OF THESE COMMENTS. WE PUT FORTH OUR... DESIRES, OUR

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NEIGHBORS PUT FORTH OUR DESIRES, AND THEN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS TREES, JUST OOPS, OH, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE GOING TO CUT DOWN THOSE TREES. WELL, YOU CAN'T PUT THEM BACK. AND THEY WERE GORGEOUS, AND THEY HIT PAUL PARK. NOW, ANYBODY WHO DRIVES BY THERE NOW, YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT'S WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT. MR. HOLPERSON IS RIGHT. THERE ARE SOME... BEAUTIFUL TREES THAT ARE PROBABLY 100, 150 YEARS OLD. IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT HAS BEAUTIFUL TREES THAT ARE GORGEOUS AND LANDMARK TREES. AND PUTTING IN SAPLINGS THAT ADD UP TO THE GIRTH OF A 100, 150-YEAR-OLD TREE IS REALLY KIND OF A JOKE. IT'S JUST... I KNOW WHAT IT SAYS AND WHAT THE POLICY SAYS, BUT LISTEN TO THE INTENT. PROTECT THE BEAUTY OF STAFF, I'M TELLING YOU. PROTECT THE BEAUTY OF THE CITY. IF IT'S EVER IN QUESTION, TALK TO US.

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY WANTS, WRAP ALL KINDS OF ORANGE TAPE AROUND IT.

TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO ACCIDENTALLY GET CUT DOWN.

WE ALSO HAD IT HAPPEN IN SLATER CREEK PARK, OVER BY THE DISC GOLF AREA. THE DEVELOPERS, PEOPLE ACCIDENTALLY CUT DOWN THE WRONG TREES. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAPPENS.

SO, BUT OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOU, SIR, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT. AND, COUNCIL, YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF TIME TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK. I ASK THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS TONIGHT SO WE CAN ALL MOVE FORWARD. SO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE DID THAT. YOU DID? YEAH. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARVER AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IS THAT A MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED OR WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE USES? WITH AN AMENDMENT. SIR, THERE YOU ARE. YEAH. AMENDMENT TO THE AUTO USES. RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO RESTRICT THOSE. AND THE TREES. WITH THE TREES, YEAH. TO BE ABLE... GO AHEAD AND PUT IT OUT THERE. HOW DO YOU WANT IT SAID? FOR LIGHT AUTOMOTIVE, RESTRICTED TO ANYTHING THAT STACKS CARS.

OKAY, YES. YEAH, WE'RE AGREEABLE TO THAT. AND THEN WITH THE TREE AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

WHAT PART ON THE TREATMENT IS ALREADY IN PLACE? WHAT ARE YOU WANTING FOR... WELL, HE'S ALREADY SAID WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO, SO...

ARE YOU ASKING THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW? OKAY, SO IS THAT NEEDED AN AMENDMENT? THAT'S NOT HIS CONCERN, THAT'S OUR CONCERN.

I'M JUST TRYING TO... THE THING FOR ME WAS JUST FOR THE AUTOMOTIVE, NOT STACKING CARS. YEAH, SO I THINK THE ONLY AMENDMENT WE HAVE IS THE STACKING OF THE AUTOMOTIVE LIGHT DUTY...

STACKING UP THE CARS. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. AND THE TREE ORDINANCE HANDLES ITSELF. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO...

AND WITH ALL THIS, I THINK THE STAFF KNOWS HOW WE FEEL ABOUT TREES. IS THERE A CLAWBACK ON THE TREE ORDINANCE? LIKE, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW IT AND WE'RE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THEY DON'T FOLLOW IT, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN...

WHAT KIND OF MONETARY DAMAGES? HELP US WALK... THERE'S A TABLE IN THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE THAT WE ADOPTED IN 2023 THAT OUTLINES THE...

DIFFERENT FEES, RANGING FROM $1,000 UP TO $5,000 PER THE INCHES, BASED OFF OF THE INCHES OF THE TREE. AS I SAID, WE HAVE THAT ACCOUNT CREATED, BUT NOBODY HAS PAID INTO IT. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY VIOLATIONS SINCE THEN. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A DID YOU ADD THE AMENDMENT, GRACE? SO IS IT NO AUTOMOTIVE USES OR JUST STACKING OF AUTO, OF CARS. THE ABILITY TO STACK CARS, LIKE WINDOW TINTING. SO AUTO DEALER, NEW USE, BUT STILL REQUIRED AN SUP, AUTO PARTS SALES, AUTO REPAIR, LIGHT, AND AUTO STORAGE WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED. NO AUTO.

RIGHT. THERE WILL, TO SAY IT QUITE CLEARLY, THERE WILL BE NO AUTO REPAIR, ANYTHING VISIBLE ON THIS PROPERTY. IT'LL HAVE TO BE. CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? MAYBE? YES. CAN WE, INSTEAD OF ELIMINATING ALL OF IT, CAN IT BE AN SUP WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME? IT COULD BE A SPECIAL, SOMETHING,

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THERE COULD BE SOMETHING AUTOMOTIVE. ANYTHING AUTOMOTIVE HAS TO HAVE AN SUP. I KNOW, BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING. SO WE'RE ASKING MORE, AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEARING WITH US AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS. WE'VE NEVER DONE A FLEX SPACE BEFORE. OKAY, SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT AMENDMENT THAN I THINK. CLARK, CAN YOU HELP CLARIFY THIS SO WE CAN GET PAST THIS AGENDA ITEM? WE WANT AN SUP FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY FOR ANYTHING LIGHT AUTO. HEAVY AUTO IS NOT ALLOWED. LIGHT AUTO, WE WANT AN SUP. THEY HAVE TO COME TO US. SO YOU WANT TO PUT THAT IN YOUR MOTION? YEAH, CAN YOU HELP US MAKE THAT RIGHT MOTION? OR IS IT EVEN REQUIRED, SINCE IT WOULD BE AN SUP? THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE US ANYWAY. NO, YOU ARE PUTTING IT ON THE PROHIBITED USES. I MEAN, IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION.

SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT, MAKE THOSE USES. REQUIRE AN SUP, THEN YOU PUT THAT IN YOUR MOTION. OKAY, CAN YOU DO THAT? OKAY, THAT WAS ME. SO TO CLARIFY MY MOTION, MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE, WE HAVE A PROHIBITED USES LIST.

ANY DEVIATION FROM THAT WILL REQUIRE AN SUP, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT WORKS.

THANK YOU. I STILL STAND WITH THE TWO THAT MADE THE MOTION.

OKAY, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

GRACE, YOU WENT EASY ON IT. IT SAYS APPROVE WITH AMENDMENTS.

SHE SAID SHE'D FIX IT. ALL RIGHT. THAT 411 IS KIND OF A PATTERN TONIGHT. MOTION PASSES. LETTER I. CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH PARK HILL FOR THE DESIGN OF THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS.

I'VE BEEN WAITING ON THIS.

CITY ENGINEER KEVIN BATES.

WELCOME. IS THIS YOUR FIRST TIME SPEAKING? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME. WELL, WELCOME.

TOOK ME A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE GONNA... WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THE RIGHT SLIDE. LET'S JUST GO.

BIG BUTTON. BIG BUTTON. BIG BUTTON. OKAY. I WAS EXPECTING A MOUSE. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

EVENING, MAYOR, PRO TEM, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS ITEM 6.I, WHICH IS THE DESIGN CONTRACT FOR THE ANNA POLICE HEADQUARTERS. THE PROJECT LOCATION IS THERE, HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, WHICH IS GENERALLY AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 423 AND STATE HIGHWAY 5. IT'S ROUGHLY ONE MILE SOUTH OF FM 455. THE SITE WAS ACQUIRED BY THE CITY BACK IN APRIL OF 2025, USING CO BONDS. THE SITE FOR THE PDHQ WILL SIT ON 21.6 ACRES. AND THEN WE FLIP THE MAP A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN GET A BETTER VIEW OF THE ACTUAL SITE FOR THIS. NORTH WILL NOW BE TO YOUR RIGHT. IN JUNE OF 2025, ANA HIRED PARK HILL FOR A FEASIBILITY AND FACILITY STUDY FOR FUTURE ANA POLICE HEADQUARTERS THROUGH A SELECTION OF THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. THE NEW BUILDING IS SHOWN THERE WITH THE... THE WHITE BUILDING ARE LISTED AS MAIN BUILDING, RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.

THAT BUILDING WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 32,000 SQUARE FEET, PROVIDING THE NEEDS FOR FUTURE GROWTH UP TO APPROXIMATELY AROUND 20-YEAR MARK. THE SPACE WILL INCLUDE ADMINISTRATION, PATROL, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, RECORDS, COMMUNITY SERVICES, TO NAME A FEW. THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS MORE OF A SPACE PLANNING PROJECT, MORE THAN DETAILED DESIGN. THE SITE WILL HAVE VISITOR PARKING, WHICH SHOULD BE AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN COMING OFF OF STATE HIGHWAY 5. THERE WILL BE SECURED PARKING THAT COMES OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 423 WITH SECURED FENCING AROUND THAT PARKING LOT AS WELL. WE ALSO WILL BE DESIGNING AN AUXILIARY BUILDING THAT'S AROUND 2,300 SQUARE FEET. FEET WITH THIS, AND THAT BUILDING WILL MAINLY

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BE FOR STORAGE FOR POLICE OPERATIONS. THAT AUXILIARY BUILDING, BASED ON COST AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION, MAY BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE TIME WITH THE MAIN BUILDING, OR IT MAY BE DEFERRED TO A LATER DATE. AS FAR AS PROJECT TIMELINES, SO YOU JUST HEARD BACK. IN APRIL 2025, WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. BACK IN JUNE OF 2025, WE ISSUED CO BONDS FOR THIS POLICE STATION. AND THEN WE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH PARK HILL TO DO THE PRELIMINARY FEASIBILITY SCHEMATIC DESIGN BACK IN DECEMBER. HERE TODAY, FEBRUARY 2026, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE DESIGN CONTRACT FOR THIS. THEN MOVING ON TO THE OUTER YEARS. THE OTHER MONTHS WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, THE PARK IS GOING TO BE HELPING US WITH SELECTING A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK IN MAY, WHICH THEN WOULD LEAD INTO THE COMPLETION OF OUR FULL PLAN SPECIFICATION, ENGINEERING DRAWINGS SO THAT THAT CMAR CAN ACTUALLY BID ON.

THAT SHOULD BE DONE SOMETIME AROUND JANUARY OF 2027. AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT WILL BE...

PROVIDING Y'ALL A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE CONTRACT, WHICH IS THE GMP, SOMETIME SPRING OF 2027.

AT THAT POINT, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW LONG CONSTRUCTION IS ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE FOR THE PROJECT FOR THAT. SO WITH THAT, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. AM I ABLE TO TURN IT BACK ON? NO.

THANKS, TECH TEAM. THANKS, BUDDY. SO, FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE SEEING THAT WE'RE FINALLY GETTING A NEW POLICE STATION.

SO IF I CAN KIND OF BACK US UP TO EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO FUND THIS POLICE STATION, BUT I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE REASON FOR US TO GO, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT EXPENDITURE. HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW LONG IS THIS POLICE STATION GOING TO PROVIDE US FOR? AT WHAT LEVEL, LET ME ASK THAT AGAIN, AT WHAT POINT SHOULD WE NEED ANOTHER POLICE STATION? SO, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WE JUST GOT THROUGH WITH, THIS SIZE OF BUILDING WAS PLANNED FOR ROUGHLY ABOUT 20 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT POPULATION, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL BASED ON PER CAPITA, PER OFFICER, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. EVENTUALLY, SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS EVENTUALLY, IF THEY WANTED TO, THEY CAN EXPAND INTO THAT LOCATION. 30, 40, 50 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. THIS SITE PROVIDES, BECAUSE IT IS 21.6 ACRES, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF EXPANSION CAPABILITIES TO THE SOUTH, WHICH WOULD BE TO THE LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN, AS WELL AS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POND, THERE'S A ABILITY FOR EXPANSION THERE ON THE NORTH. SO ANOTHER THING IS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I GO TO RICHARDSON, YOU LOOK AT THAT POLICE STATION OFF OF, I THINK IT'S SPRING CREEK WITH THE EXIT BEFORE, BUT THEY HAVE KIND OF LIKE A COMPOUND BUILT WHERE IT'S LIKE NON-OPAQUE WALLS, JUST THICK WALLS. WHAT KIND OF PERIMETER, WALL OR FENCING IS GOING TO GO AROUND THIS PROPERTY? IS THERE ANY? SO RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY PERIMETER FENCING, THE SECURED FENCING, WOULD BE FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS. BACK IN THEIR SECURED PARKING, BACK IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, OFF OF COUNTY ROAD. KIND OF LIKE HOW IT IS HERE, RIGHT, WITH THE SECURED VEHICLES? CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF YOUR OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN AND GOING.

PERFECT. AND THEN THE FINAL QUESTION I HAVE IS, SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ON THE THEME OF HISTORY AND PRESERVING IT, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THAT BUILDING THAT YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING? AN ODE TO OUR HISTORY, MAYBE THE FIRST POLICE CHIEF, MAYBE SOMETHING, SOME PICTURE OF A, SOME FACADE OF THE OLD ORIGINAL POLICE STATION, ANYTHING THAT WE COULD TIE OUR ANTI-HISTORY BACK TO? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT WITH THE POLICE STATION? I DON'T KNOW IF WE GET IT. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE, I MEAN, YOU COULD ASK THEM WHENEVER.

THE DESIGN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, WE HAVE A HISTORY OF THIS RED BRICK THAT OUR LIBRARY IS MADE OF AND STUFF LIKE THAT, MAYBE USE SOME OF THAT. THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL TIME TO USE SOME OF THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? CORRECT, YES.

SO MOST OF THESE DESIGN-TYPE CONTRACTS LIKE THIS, WE ENGAGE A LOT OF THE STAFF FOR A PD. THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT WILL BE FORMED THAT WILL HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE, MAKING SURE WE'RE TYING IN SOME OF THEIR THOUGHTS, COLORS, THINGS LIKE THAT, ANY MEMORABLE ITEMS AROUND TOWN, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT THEY MAY NEED.

WE CAN LOOK AT THAT DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS.

PERFECT. ON THE RENDERING THAT YOU HAVE HERE, WHAT IS THE DARK GRAY SPOT TO THE WEST OF THE POND? ANOTHER POND, I THINK. THAT

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MAY BE SOME TYPE OF DETENTION POND, POTENTIALLY, OR AMENITY-TYPE POND. IT WAS JUST SHOWN IN THE RENDERING AS POTENTIAL USE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE WHERE WE CAN MOVE THINGS AROUND ON THAT SITE. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WE DON'T OUTGROW THIS BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GET THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED HERE. OH, THIS ONE'S FULL WHEN WE OPENED THE CITY HALL, RIGHT, CHIEF? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S MY CONCERN. I WANT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND GROWTH BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING CITY. WE'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER FIRE STATION AT SOME POINT. THEY'RE GOING TO GROW. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FIT IN THIS AND THEY'RE NOT OVERCROWDED IN THIS. SO, THAT'S A GOOD... OH, SORRY. REAL QUICK ON THE QUESTION I HAD, IS UNLIKE THE FIRE STATION, THAT MAKES SENSE TO PUT A FIRE STATION ACROSS TOWN SOMEWHERE, THIS MIGHT BE A CHEAP, ABLE.

QUESTION, DOES IT MAKE SENSE THAT IF WE NEED TO EXPAND, WOULD WE NEED TO EXPAND AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR THE RESPONSE TIME, OR IS THIS SITE EXPANDABLE? SO, POTENTIALLY. SO THE FIRST QUESTION, THE REASON I STEPPED UP IS BECAUSE KEVIN DID JOIN US ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO. WE STARTED THIS PLANNING PROCESS BEFORE KEVIN JOINED US. HE DID STEP RIGHT IN AND HELP US OUT QUITE A BIT IN THAT PROCESS. SO EVEN BEFORE I GOT HERE, CHIEF HAD GONE THROUGH. AND THEY HAD DONE A STAFFING PLAN, WHICH WAS PART OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE GOT SEVEN OFFICERS AND WE WERE TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS THAT STAFFING PLAN. SO THE INTENTION OF THIS BUILDING IS THAT IT WILL HOUSE THE OFFICERS, PER THAT STAFFING PLAN, FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS.

THAT IS THE INTENT. IT DOES NOT HAVE A DISPATCH IN IT. IT DOES NOT HAVE A DETENTION AREA AS LIKE A JAIL SORT OF THING. IT IS MAINLY JUST FOCUSED ON THAT. THERE ARE SOME PLANS THAT WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT OF POTENTIALLY PUTTING ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS ON HERE. WE'VE BEEN SORT OF SITE PLANNING THAT WITH PARK HILL. THOSE ARE NOT PART OF THIS ORIGINAL DESIGN, BUT IT WAS PART OF THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY AS WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AS IT GOES TO RESPONSE TIME. I CAN DEFINITELY LET CHIEF HABEL TALK ABOUT IT, BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THOUGHT PROCESSES OF DO YOU CREATE ONE CENTRAL AND THEN SORT OF THE SATELLITE LOCATIONS AS YOU GO THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I THINK THAT THAT WILL BE SORT OF AS WE SEE GROWTH DEVELOP.

WE RECENTLY CAME FROM THE CITY OF ALLEN, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT BEFORE. THE CITY OF ALLEN HAS ONE CENTRAL POLICE STATION, BUT AT THE VILLAGES OF ALLEN, THEY HAVE A SATELLITE STOREFRONT. AS IT WERE, OVER AT THE SHOPS AT WILLOW, OVER OFF OF BETHANY, WATERS CREEK, THEY HAVE A SORT OF A SATELLITE STOREFRONT SO THAT THEY CAN HOUSE CERTAIN FOLKS THERE AND DO THOSE CERTAIN THINGS.

BUT WE COULD ALSO DECIDE WITHIN THE NEXT 20 YEARS TO DO MORE OF A SATELLITE.

IRVING HAS DONE THOSE.

RICHARDSON HAS DONE THOSE. AND THEN BECAUSE WE SEE, WE'VE EXPANDED OUT FURTHER TO THE EAST, PAST THE RAILROAD TRACKS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT VARIOUS RESPONSE TIMES, IF THERE WAS A TRAIN OR OTHER THINGS. WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT SMALLER FACILITIES AS WE GO.

THAT WOULD BE, AGAIN, STOREFRONTS OR OTHERWISE TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR RESPONSE TIME.

BUT I'LL DEFER TO CHIEF AS WELL IF HE'S GOT MORE TO ADD.

SURE. SO, AS FAR AS THE RESPONSE TIME GOES, THE MAIN DISTINCTION BETWEEN A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND... FIRE RESPONSE IS THAT WE'RE RESPONDING FROM THE FIELD.

FIRE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONDING FROM THEIR BUILDING. SO SINCE OUR PATROL OFFICERS ARE SPLIT UP INTO DISTRICTS, THEY ARE REALLY RESPONDING FROM WHERE THEY ARE PRIMARILY PATROLLING. SO THAT'S REALLY A SECONDARY KIND OF CONCERN FOR US. THE STOREFRONT MODEL DOES MAKE SENSE. SORT OF THE LUBBOCK MODEL OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, SUBSTATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I DON'T THINK... IS IDEAL FOR WHAT OUR BUILD-OUT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT THAT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE, AND THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE BEYOND WHAT I'M HERE.

BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AS FAR AS PLANNING PURPOSES GO, I WOULD... FOCUS ON EXPANDING THIS LOCATION.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE STOREFRONTS WHERE YOU'VE GOT A WALKABLE DOWNTOWN AND YOU'VE GOT MAYBE A BIKE UNIT THAT'S HOUSED OUT OF THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT MAYBE WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF, OR SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE THOUGHT OF REQUESTING? NOW'S THE TIME. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN GIVE YOU? YOU KNOW, THE THE TRAILER THAT WE JUST GOT, THAT WE, MARK AND I JUST TALKED ABOUT, MAYBE PUTTING OUT FRONT AT THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH PUT TOGETHER NOW, THAT WAS PHENOMENAL AND KIND

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OF UNEXPECTED. SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THAT, LOOKING AT A LOT OF APPLICATIONS FOR THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE PHENOMENAL. WE'VE WORKED WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH OTHER CITY STAFF MEMBERS, WITH PARK HILL. TO COME UP WITH KIND OF A PRELIMINARY CONCEPT OF WHAT WE THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND, YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON'S QUESTION, THERE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SOME UNFINISHED AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GROW INTO AS WE EXPAND AND GROW OUT STAFF-WISE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONCERN EITHER. SO I GUESS THE SHORT ANSWER IS, WE'RE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE, AND YOU GUYS HAVE PUT US IN A GOOD PLACE WITH THIS BUILDING. OUT OF CURIOSITY, SO WHERE I GREW UP, A LOT OF THE MAJOR POLICE STATIONS HAD AN INTERNAL SHOOTING.

LIKE A SHOOTING RANGE. IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE EVER THOUGHT OF? IS THAT EVEN SOMETHING YOU NEED? IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT THERE IS, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER SLIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW PROBABLY LATER IN THE PROCESS. WHERE THAT COULD GO IN THE FUTURE.

PERFECT. BUT AS FAR AS THIS PROJECT GOES, IT WOULD EAT WAY, WAY INTO THE REST OF WHAT WE DO. YEAH, 100%.

IT'S JUST AT LEAST SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THERE IS SOMETHING. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF. THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE FOR YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DESIGN LANGUAGE OF THIS ARCHITECTURE, IS IT GOING TO FALL IN LINE WITH CITY HALL AND THE LIBRARY? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGES GOING ON. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOING TO COMPLEMENT WHATEVER ELSE.

IF OUR CITY BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE MODERN, WHATEVER THIS ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN IS, HONESTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE A BUNCH OF POKER CARDS YOU CAN HOLD. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S SEEN THAT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOING TO COMPLEMENT.

LIKE A LIBRARY, WHICH COMPLEMENTS THIS BUILDING. IF THAT'S A PUBLIC SERVICE BUILDING, JUST WHATEVER YOU GUYS DO, JUST MAKE SURE IT COMPLEMENTS.

IT'S JUST IN LINE. IT DOESN'T JUST STICK OUT. MAYBE IT STICKS OUT IN A GOOD WAY. I'D SUGGEST MAYBE WE HAVE A WORK SESSION WITH PARK HILL, AND WE CAN JUST DISCUSS SOME THINGS. CAN WE DO THAT? YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD. SURE. YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD GET, I MEAN, EVEN I GOT SOME. THINGS OUT.

YEAH, MAYBE CHIEF HAS SOMETHING, BUT YEAH, JUST KIND OF DO THAT AND WRAP IT UP.

WELL, CHIEF IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ON THE BOARD, BUT I GOT A COUPLE, SO TWO, THIS, WELL, THREE THINGS. THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WAITING ON FOR A LONG TIME. IT STINKS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OPEN BY THE TIME I'M OFF OF THIS COUNCIL, BUT HEY, AT LEAST IT'S BEING BUILT. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. MY ONLY CONCERN ON THE DESIGN OF 423, UM, ARE WE GOING TO REPAVE IT? THAT WOULD BE OUR ROAD THEN. IT'S OUR ROAD NOW.

CORRECT. SO WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR 423 AND WHAT'S THE PLAN ON THE INTERSECTION OF 423 AND HIGHWAY 5? SO WE WILL HAVE TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON 423 BECAUSE IT'S ALL SCHEMATIC RIGHT NOW. THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE YET TO BE DEFINED, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK AT IMPROVING 423 AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL INTERSECTIONS, INS AND OUTS.

THROUGH THE SITE ARE LOOKED AT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE HANDLED APPROPRIATELY. ARE WE GOING TO STRAIGHTEN UP THE? IT WOULD BE MORE OF A T AT 423, THAT'S WE NEED TO LOOK AT, WHICH IS NOT THE BEST ANGLE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, AND THEN, UH, MY OTHER, UH, WISH OR ASK, WILL I BE ABLE TO FISH AT THIS POND? THAT'S THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT FOR ME TO ANSWER. ALL RIGHT. SO I WAS GOING TO SAY, CHIEF, UH, WHAT MANNY WAS TALKING ABOUT? AS FAR AS THE APPEARANCE AND SO FORTH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY GONE INTO AND LOOKED AT WITH THE DEVELOPER? WE'VE HAD PARK HILL LOOK AT SOME PRELIMINARY RENDERINGS FOR THIS BUILDING, BUT AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE PS&E PACKAGE, THEY WILL FURTHER REFINE THAT.

SO WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ALL ON A WORKSHOP. SO THIS ITEM IS SPECIFICALLY JUST BRINGING PARK HILL ON AS BASICALLY THE DESIGNER.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM. I'LL SECOND.

AYE. DID I GET THAT SECOND? ALL RIGHT. YOU GOT IT BEFORE, HE FINISHED. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO BE A PART OF THAT VOTE, MAN. I MADE PROMISES TO THE CHIEF. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAKER, SECOND BY MYSELF. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THAT'S LIKE THE SECOND. ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES 6-0. LAST ITEM.

CONSIDER DISCUSSED ACTION ON APPOINTING A NEW TREASURER TO SERVE ON A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND PUBLIC FINANCE CORPORATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS UNTIL THE TERM EXPIRES IN 2027. INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NATASHA ROACH. LAST ITEM. GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS ACTUALLY SHOULD BE A

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SIMPLE ITEM. HOPEFULLY, WE'RE GOING TO JUST DO SOME ADMINISTRATIVE IN REGARDS TO THE RESIGNATION OF COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON FROM HER POSITION AS TREASURER.

ON THE HFC AND PFC BOARD.

WITH THE LATEST CHANGES TO, I BELIEVE THE CHARTERS COUNCIL IS THE BOARD FOR THE HFC AND PFC. ANY NEW COUNCIL MEMBER THAT SITS IS AUTOMATICALLY CONSIDERED TO BE A BOARD MEMBER.

HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE TO CHOOSE OFFICERS, THEY WERE APPOINTED BACK IN 2024, SO, WITH THE RESIGNATION OF COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON AND APPOINTING A NEW TREASURER, THIS WILL BE FOR THE REMAINDER OF HER TERM, FOR THE LAST YEAR OF THE THREE-YEAR TERM. AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO THE PRESIDENT IS DAN, AND JUST A SIDE NOTE, THE TREASURER IS ACTUALLY NOT A POSITION THAT IS NOTED IN THE BYLAWS. IT WAS ONE THAT I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL VOTED TO HAVE WITHIN THE AUTHORITY OF APPOINTING AN ADDITIONAL POSITION OF OFFICE. COULD YOU JUST SCRAP IT? THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. WHO'S THE VP? WELL, YEAH. I SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT WRITTEN DOWN. NO, CARVER'S THE PRESIDENT. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT. MY QUESTION WAS, BASICALLY, ARE WE REQUIRED BY OUR BYLAWS TO HAVE A TREASURER? YOU ARE NOT. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A TREASURER. I WOULD JUST MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE JUST LEAVE THE OFFICE VACANT.

SECOND. OKAY. SECOND VOTE.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARVER.

SECOND, BY MYSELF. THAT WAS BAKER. BAKER. MY BAD. MY MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. SECOND, BY MYSELF. OKAY. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. NO TREASURE? NO TREASURE. THE OFFICE OF TREASURER HAS BEEN ABSOLVED.

PERFECT IDEA. I'D LIKE TO GET RID OF IT ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN GO HOME, ENJOY YOUR EVENINGS. THERE'S NO GAMES ON TONIGHT, BUT MAYBE POP A COLD ONE.

ENJOY YOURSELVES. COLD MILK OR ANYTHING ELSE. ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES 6-0. DO WE HAVE? WE DO. THANKS. BEFORE I READ ALL THIS, I WANT TO SAY TO THE COUNCIL, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS AS WELL, I APPRECIATE WHAT JUST HAPPENED.

AND IT'S THE SECOND TIME I'VE BEEN UP HERE, AND IT'S HARD, RIGHT, DOING THIS RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE I'M RE-ENGAGED, AND MY BRAIN IS GOING INSANE, AND I CAN BARELY BREATHE.

BUT... AND YOU DON'T GET TO DO IT OFTEN, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, THE CONVERSATION, THE WAY WE WORK THROUGH THINGS. THAT'S HOW WE NEED TO DO IT. LIKE, THIS WAS A GOOD NIGHT,

[7. Closed Session (Exceptions).]

AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY I'M GOING TO WALK HOME OR DRIVE HOME.

AND JUST LIKE, MAN, THAT WAS AWESOME. SO WITH THAT, CLOSED SESSION.

UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS. ANY ITEMS LISTED OR REFERENCED ON THIS AGENDA UNDER THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS. A, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071.

B, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.072. C, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.087. AND D, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.074. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION? I MOVE TO GO INTO CLOSED. SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRYAN. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT,

[8. Consider/Discuss/Action on any items listed on any agenda; executive session, regular meeting, or closed session that is duly posted by the City of Anna for any City Council meeting occurring on the same date as the meeting noticed in this agenda. ]

WE'RE RECONVENED A MEETING AT 9.36 P.M. NEXT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON ANY ITEMS LISTED ON ANY AGENDA, EXECUTIVE SESSION, REGULAR MEETING, OR CLOSED SESSION. THAT IS DULY POSTED BY THE CITY OF HAVANA FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OCCURRING ON THE SAME DATE AS THE MEETING NOTICE IN THIS AGENDA. MAYOR PROCHAM, I MOVE THAT WE EXTEND THE ACTING CITY MANAGER'S CONTRACT TO THE AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE NEXT CITY MANAGER'S START DATE.

I'LL SECOND. THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN BAKER, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON. WE CAN JUST DO ALL IN FAVOR. OKAY. THERE'S NOBODY

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TO TALK TO, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY. ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES 5-0 TO 1.

WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 9.38 P.M.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Meeting Items

1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.

3. Neighbor Comments.

4. Reports.

5. Consent Items.

j. Approve a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Anna, Texas Approving Fourth Amendment to Sherley Tract Subdivision Improvement Agreement. (Director of Public Works Joseph Cotton)

6. Items For Individual Consideration and Public Hearings.

7. Closed Session (Exceptions).

8. Consider/Discuss/Action on any items listed on any agenda; executive session, regular meeting, or closed session that is duly posted by the City of Anna for any City Council meeting occurring on the same date as the meeting noticed in this agenda.

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1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.

3. Neighbor Comments.

4. Reports.

5. Consent Items.

j. Approve a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Anna, Texas Approving Fourth Amendment to Sherley Tract Subdivision Improvement Agreement. (Director of Public Works Joseph Cotton)

6. Items For Individual Consideration and Public Hearings.

7. Closed Session (Exceptions).

8. Consider/Discuss/Action on any items listed on any agenda; executive session, regular meeting, or closed session that is duly posted by the City of Anna for any City Council meeting occurring on the same date as the meeting noticed in this agenda.

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