[00:00:03] GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ANNA PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING. WE ARE MISSING COMMISSIONER VOLLMER TODAY, [1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.] SO WE'RE ABSENT. ONE QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. IF YOU'LL ALL JOIN US FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE CENTER OURSELVES IN GRATITUDE AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, MAY WE COME TOGETHER IN A SPIRIT OF SERVICE, GUIDED BY WISDOM, WITH OPEN HEARTS AND CLEAR MINDS. AMEN. AMEN MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. ALSO, AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THIS MEETING AGENDA. EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THE MEETING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY, OR RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? IS THAT ON AN ITEM OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT? [4. Director's Report.] COMMISSIONERS THERE WE GO. YOU HAVE IN YOUR REPORTS THE COMPLETE UPDATE OF OUR KIND OF OUR YEAR-END REPORT FOR WHERE WE ARE WITH PROJECTS KIND OF WENT THROUGH AND UPDATED THEM WHERE WE ARE. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE RECENT PROJECTS. THESE GO BACK TO NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE AND THOSE THAT ARE UPCOMING PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER ON YOUR AGENDA CURRENTLY OR STAFF IS WORKING WITH THROUGH THEIR APPROVAL PROCESSES. ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. I'LL MOVE FORWARD THIS IS. I WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS REPORT. THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY REPORT. BECAUSE, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, THE SINGLE-FAMILY IS WHAT IS THE REALLY THE BAROMETER FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR OUR CITY AND FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERY CITY AT THAT POINT. THIS IS A REPORT THAT KIND OF SHOWS EVERYBODY IN OUR, IN OUR AREA THAT REPORTS THEIR SINGLE-FAMILY PERMITS AND WHERE THEY ARE AND UP OR DOWNS THAT YOU'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS. OUR NUMBERS ARE DOWN, BUT OUR TOTAL NUMBERS ARE IN A VERY SOLID POSITION. WITH THE CITY OUR SIZE. REALLY ANYTHING OVER THAT 300 TO 500 PERMITS A YEAR IS PRETTY SOLID. ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS JUST OUTSTANDING. EVEN THOUGH WE. WE DID HAVE A DROP IN OUR TOTAL PERMITS FROM YEAR END TO YEAR END. SO BUT MOST AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF THE CITIES ALSO SUFFERED THE SAME SITUATION. IT'S JUST A SITUATION ACROSS THE BOARD FOR MOST OF THE COMMUNITIES IS SEEING A, A SMALL DROP IN THOSE NUMBERS. AS FAR AS TOTAL NUMBER OF SINGLE-FAMILY PERMITS ISSUED FOR 2025. THE ECONOMY REALLY DRIVES A LOT OF THAT. INTEREST RATES, A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS GO INTO THAT. BUT ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS YEAR-END REPORT? ALSO JUST IN YOUR WANTED YOUR ATTENTION, YOU HAVE A BIG BOOK, A FOLDER THERE IN FRONT OF ALL OF YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THAT THAT HOME WITH YOU. THAT'S NOT HOMEWORK. THAT'S THAT'S JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE MATERIAL THAT HAS THE MOST UP TO DATE CODES THAT ALL OF THE TRAININGS THAT WE DO WILL COPY AND PUT THOSE HARD COPIES IN THE BACK OF THOSE BOOKS AS WELL. [00:05:05] THEY'RE THERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE. AND AS WE DISCUSS THINGS IT'S THERE FOR YOU TO LOOK UP THINGS AS WE GO THROUGH SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND HAVE IT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN YOU NEED THEM. SO WE WILL. WE WILL. YOU CAN JUST LEAVE THEM AT YOUR SEATS WHEN YOU LEAVE, AND AND STAFF WILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE AND HAVE THEM READY FOR YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO PULL AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? [6. Consent Items.] ALL RIGHT. THIS MATTER IS NOW OPEN FOR VOTE. COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7 ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND PUBLIC [7. Items For Individual Consideration and Public Hearings.] HEARINGS AT THE TIME AND PLACE OF ANY PUBLIC HEARING HELD DURING THIS MEETING, ALL PERSONS WHO DESIRE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE, APPLICATION, OR OTHER PROPOSED ITEM. FIRST ITEM WE HAVE TONIGHT IS 7.A CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION TO REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A DAYCARE/SCHOOL ON 2.4± ACRES. LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF LEONARD AVENUE, 805± FEET NORTH OF EAST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS ITEM IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE. IF YOU REMEMBER, BACK IN DECEMBER, I BELIEVE YOU ALL VOTED ON RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ZONING AND ANNEXATION. IT IS RIGHT THERE. TO THE WEST OF LEONARD AVENUE RIGHT NEXT TO THE CLEMONS CREEK MIDDLE SCHOOL. THEY HAVE COME BACK AND PROVIDED A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE DAYCARE SCHOOL IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE NORTH SIDE IS OPEN FOR A FUTURE PAD. LOOKING AT OUR REGULATIONS, WE DO HAVE A FEW SPECIFIC REGULATIONS FOR CARETAKING USES. IN THEIR CONCEPT PLAN, THEY MEET ALL OF THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN OUR, OUR ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN OUR REGULATIONS. LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, THAT AREA IS DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN LIVING WHICH THE SECONDARY LAND USE DOES ALLOW FOR CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL USES. AS WELL AS THAT BLUE AREA, THERE IS THE SCHOOL. SO IT FITS IN WITH THE AREA RIGHT NOW OR THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LAYOUT? SO FUTURE PAD THAT TELLS US NOTHING IF THEY COME, IF THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE ON THERE, DO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US? OR IF WE APPROVE THIS, THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A PLAN FOR WHAT TO PUT THERE YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:38 P.M. DOES ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. NO? IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND DO THEY WISH TO SPEAK? YES GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS JUAN VASQUEZ WITH VASQUEZ ENGINEERING, 1919 SOUTH SHORE ROAD, GARLAND, TEXAS, 75042. I'M HERE REPRESENTING BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. SO AS STAFF HAS INDICATED, THIS IS FOR THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE. THEY'RE A NATIONAL CHILD CARE FACILITY OUT OF FLORIDA. THEY JUST OPENED A FACILITY SIMILAR TO THIS IN FRISCO. THEY HAVE ONE IN SALINA. THEY HAVE A FEW TOWARDS THE WEST TOWARDS FORT WORTH. TO ANSWER MR. LONGMIRE'S QUESTION THAT FUTURE PAD, JUST BASED ON THE LOCATION AND THE SIZE OF IT, WE ENVISION THAT BEING SOMETHING LIKE A MEDICAL OFFICE, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. IT'S TOO SMALL TO DO ANY TYPE OF RETAIL USE OR RESTAURANT USE. YOU WOULDN'T GENERATE ENOUGH PARKING THERE. AND OUR CLIENT WHO'S GOING TO DEVELOP THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THEM, IS GOING TO RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. SO HIS MAIN GOAL RIGHT NOW IS GETTING THE DAYCARE OR THE CHILDCARE UP AND RUNNING. THEY'RE READY, THEY'RE READY TO GO. AND THEN HOPEFULLY HE'LL FIND A USER FOR THAT PAD, WHICH IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOMEBODY SPECIFIC, [00:10:02] MAYBE SOMEBODY IN TOWN ALREADY THAT'S LOOKING FOR THEIR OWN MEDICAL OFFICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO IN THAT SMALL SPACE. IT LOOKS BIG ON THE SCREEN, BUT ONCE YOU TRY AND PUT IN PARKING, YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A BUILDING THAT'S 3000 TO 5000FT² IN SIZE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? OH ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:40 P.M. AND CONFINE ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF. DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THIS ONE WHEN IT CAME THROUGH? IT WAS EARLIER. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS? CONCERNS? NO. NO. MAKE MAKE SENSE. IT'S IT FITS IN WITH WHAT'S IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. YEAH. AND THEY MATCHED WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO. PUTTING BY PUTTING THE DAYCARE THERE. THAT'S WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY PRESENTED. YEAH. WELL IN THAT CASE I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. HAVE A SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN, AT THIS TIME, EVERYBODY CAST YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. LOOKS LIKE THE MOTION PASSED. 6 TO 6. UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 7.B, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION TO ESTABLISH PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING FOR 29.8± ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST WHITE STREET. GOOD EVENING. THIS ITEM IS FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE ZONING ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST WHITE STREET. IT'S 29.8 ACRES. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS PROPERTY AS URBAN LIVING AND SUBURBAN LIVING ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL, WHICH IS WEST WHITE STREET. THE URBAN LIVING CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE PRIMARY LAND USES IDENTIFIES NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES, HOTELS, SERVICES, ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS AS APPROPRIATE USES. AND THIS ITEM WAS PART OF THE PRE–ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN APRIL 2025 FOR FEEDBACK. AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AS PART OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL THEY ARE PROPOSING TO RESTRICT, WHICH USES WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WOULD BE ALLOWED, SO THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THE USES LISTED ON THE SCREEN, INCLUDING CAR WASH, ATHLETIC FIELD DONATION BINS. AND THEN THEY ARE ESTABLISHING THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. STATING THAT IN THESE FLEX OFFICE SPACES THAT THEY CAN HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE IN EACH UNIT, AND THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE PARKING SPACES SHALL BE THE STANDARD OUTDOOR PARKING SPACES AND ADA SPACES. THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED, AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE RESPONSE FROM MS. BETTY SHARPE THAT I HAVE GIVEN TO ALL OF YOU. ARE YOU GOING TO READ IT? SHE REQUESTED THAT IT BE READ ALOUD. YOU'RE WELCOME TO READ IT. COMMISSIONERS HAVE YOU ALL HAD TIME TO READ THIS? NO. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:44 P.M. DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SO THESE ARE ALL OFFICE BUILDINGS? CORRECT. SO THEY ARE THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CONTRACTOR SERVICE TYPE OF BUILDINGS WHERE EACH USE CAN BE DIFFERENT. THEY SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED ANY SORT OF OUTSIDE STORAGE, THOUGH, SO THEY CAN'T HAVE SOME SORT OF SERVICE CONTRACTORS SHOP THAT HAS OUTSIDE STORAGE. SO IT COULD BE A DENTIST OFFICE OR A DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR A SOME KIND OF? THERE'S A VARIETY OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. OFTENTIMES IN THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, YOU SEE SOME SORT OF WAREHOUSE EVEN GYMNASTICS STUDIOS, [00:15:03] A LOT OF ATHLETIC TYPE BUSINESSES COME IN HERE, INDOOR COMMERCIAL, AMUSEMENT PLACES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE ONE. SO POINT B, 3.B SAYS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MR. KALEB KENTNER IS PREPARING A REPORT. DO YOU DO WE HAVE THAT REPORT? THAT REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN YOU GUYS WILL IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. OKAY. IS THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? THE APPLICANT IS HERE. DO YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? IF YOU'LL JUST SAY THE NAME, THE COMPANY AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RON RAMIREZ. I'M PRESIDENT OF EVOLVING TEXAS. WE'RE LOCATED AT 3000 RACE STREET IN FORT WORTH, REPRESENTING THE OWNER AND THE DEVELOPER. I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS THIS. THIS CASE THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS KIND OF A CULMINATION OF WHAT? TWO YEARS PLUS OF WORKING WITH THE CITY. THIS IS JUST ONE PIECE THAT'S IN THAT'S OUT OF THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT COVERS A 137 ACRES THERE IN THAT SAME AREA. THIS IS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF IT. I HEARD A QUESTION ABOUT THE THE TYPE OF USES. WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND REQUESTS COMING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS LOOKING FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT. SO IT'S A THINK OF IT AS A, LIKE A FLEX SPACE TYPE OF SITUATION. SO THESE UNITS CAN BE FORMULATED FOR ALL KINDS OF BUSINESSES EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT WE ARE PROHIBITING EVERYTHING FROM GYMNASTICS TO INDOOR GOLF SIMULATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, SO THAT THE TERM FLEX SPACE REALLY LENDS ITSELF TO THAT SO. SO THIS ILLUSTRATION WE'RE LOOKING AT, I LOOK AT THAT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, TOP CENTER, WHAT? 12 DIFFERENT UNITS THERE OR 14 EVEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, EACH ONE OF THOSE PODS I GUESS. YES, YES. YES SO THEY'RE ROUGHLY 2500FT² IN THAT, THAT RANGE WITH AN OVERHEAD DOOR SO THEY CAN DRIVE INTO IT IF THEY IF THEY WANT TO. WHAT KIND OF HEIGHT TO THE STRUCTURE? I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S IT FITS WITHIN THE I-1 ZONING OF THE CITY OF ANNA AGAIN, WHICH HAS ALL BEEN WORKED THROUGH IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD SOME PEOPLE REACH OUT LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN ANNA, DO YOU HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ANYBODY CARE TO SHARE WITH US? THAT WOULD BE WHAT TYPE OF FACILITY THEY WOULD BE GOING IN THERE. IF I HAD ACTUAL NAMES, I WOULD SHARE THEM WITH YOU. YEAH. WE GOT THE INFORMATION ACTUALLY, FROM CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. SAYING THAT THEY'RE GETTING CALLS FROM CONSTITUENTS LOOKING FOR THIS TYPE OF FLEX SPACE, AND THERE ISN'T ANYTHING IN ANNA OF THIS NATURE SO. THIS IS I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS FULFILLING A NEED THAT THAT YOU ALL ARE SEEING. OKAY. AND YOU STILL IN THAT DIAGRAM, THE. THAT WOULD BE PARTIALLY CORRECT. IF YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, THERE'S THERE IS ANOTHER DRIVEWAY THERE. THIS AREA IS ALREADY UNDER DESIGN AND WE ACTUALLY WE'RE FORMULATING AT THREE ULTIMATELY. SO ALL MEETS THE SPACING REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF ANNA AND TXDOT SO. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS GUYS? JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S AN EXCERPT OUT OF THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, WHICH IS MORE OF A CONCEPT PLAN. SO THINGS ARE STARTING TO GET MORE DETAILED NOW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO? THANK YOU SIR. CAN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? GOT ONE MORE. SO WHAT KIND OF SPACING DO YOU SEE BETWEEN THOSE BUILDINGS? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S 28 ACRES. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN THERE WITH TRAILERS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. WHAT KIND OF SPACING ARE THOSE CORRIDORS THAT I'M LOOKING AT? THE MAJOR CORRIDOR IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH FOR TWO WAY TRAFFIC AND THEN SOME, BECAUSE WE ALSO NEED SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO MANEUVER INTO THE BUILDINGS OR INTO THE SPACES THAT YOU SEE THERE. SO THE LARGER DRIVE MILLS. DRIVE AISLES WILL BE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 35FT AND 50FT. [00:20:03] THE, THE SMALLER ONES ARE JUST FOR CIRCULATION. AND THERE'S PARKING IN FRONT OF EACH ONE OF THESE UNITS? YES. AND ON THIS DIAGRAM. IT'S JUST HARD TO SEE. YEAH THANK YOU. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. HAVE YOU GOT THIS IN OTHER PLACES? I'M SORRY? HAVE YOU DONE THIS IN OTHER PLACES? YEAH. OH, YES. YEAH. MY CLIENT, THIS IS HIS BAILIWICK. ABSOLUTELY. HE'S DONE THESE I WANTED TO SAY HE'S DONE THE. GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS HE'S DONE IN FRISCO. SEVERAL AREAS HERE IN NORTH TEXAS IN THE CITIES ARE FLEETING ME AT THE MOMENT. BUT YES, THIS IS WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO. OKAY. SO. HOW'S PARKING GOING TO BE HANDLED FOR THESE? HOW IS PARKING BEING HANDLED? THERE WILL BE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OVERHEAD DOOR. SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO PARK INSIDE IF THEY WANT. THEN IN FRONT OF EVERY UNIT THERE ARE OUTSIDE PARKING SPACES. AND THEN ALL ALONG WEST WHITE, YOU SEE BROKEN UP BY TREE ISLANDS. THERE'S PARKING THERE FOR VISITORS AS WELL. AND I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES 80% MASONRY WITH THESE BUILDINGS MEET THAT SAME REQUIREMENT? THEY WOULD I'LL LET. I CAN LET YOU THE MASONRY REQUIREMENT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SOUTH SIDE OF WHITE STREET. THE INDUSTRIAL OFFICES DON'T HAVE THE MASONRY REQUIREMENTS IN THE DA. OKAY. SO THAT MY QUESTION THEN WOULD BE WHAT WOULD THE EXTERIOR OF THESE BUILDINGS LOOK LIKE? THE RENDERINGS SHOW A. IT'S A METAL BUILDING WITH ARTICULATION. AND AGAIN, IT'S UNDER DESIGN NOW. BUT THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT IS HIGH END METAL BUILDING WITH PAINTING ACCENTS AWNINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THERE, THERE'S SOME RENDERINGS IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. I JUST DIDN'T BRING THOSE WITH ME. AND HOW FAR ARE THESE BUILDINGS SET BACK OFF OF WHITE STREET? I DON'T RECALL THAT DISTANCE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WHEN I LOOK AT WHITE BEING 120FT WIDE. OKAY THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU NOT FOR THEM FOR STAFF ARE WE APPROVING THIS 28 ACRE PLAT? ONLY TONIGHT YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ONLY FOR THIS 29 ACRE AREA TRACT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLANS IT'S NOT FOR THE SOUTH SIDE. SOUTH SIDE. IT'S ONLY THE NORTH SIDE. BUT I BELIEVE MS. SHARPE'S CONCERNS ARE PRIMARILY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY. CORRECT. PRIMARILY HAVING TO DO WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY AND POCKET PARKS, RIGHT? SO IT'S MORE OF A CLARIFICATION THAT THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE 29 ACRE LOT NORTH OF WHAT HER CONCERNS ARE. THAT'S COMMISSIONERS HAVE YOU ALL HAD TIME TO READ THAT EMAIL OF HER CONCERNS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL HAVE HAD TIME TO READ THROUGH AT LEAST THE ITEMS FOR 7.B, AND THEN ON THE BACK IS ITEMS FOR 7.C, SO MAKE SURE AND SEPARATE THOSE AS ACCORDING. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOPE OKAY. THANKS, LAUREN. OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD. MR. CULBERTSON, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK? IT SAYS YOU DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK. I GUESS THAT'S A YES LAUREN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT THAT PLAT BACK UP THAT JUST THAT JUST SHOWS THE LOCATION? NO, THAT ONE, THAT ONE. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR. [00:25:04] MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS CHERYL CULBERTSON. I LIVE AT 10429 COUNTY ROAD 289 IN ANNA. 32 YEARS I'VE LIVED AT THAT LOCATION, AND I DRIVE THAT STRETCH OF 455 OFTEN. YOU SEE ON THE ON THAT MAP THERE IS A VERY. I'M GLAD OF THE QUESTION ABOUT THE DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE I HAVE A SAFETY CONCERN ABOUT THIS. IF THE. THAT SHOWS A VERY SLIGHT CURVE THERE. BUT IF YOU DRIVE THAT ROAD AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT, THAT CURVE OCCURS AS YOU COME UP A SLIGHT INCLINE. AND IT'S JUST AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, GOES OVER THE HILL AND IT'S IT'S THE CURVE TO THE LEFT. AND SO YOU'RE IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL IN CREATING THE PARKING LOTS THAT GO INTO THIS AREA, YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE A BLIND SPOT THERE THAT COULD GET SOMEBODY KILLED. THAT'S ONE OF MY ONE OF MY CONCERNS. I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE TO YOU THE THIS EVENING, TAKE JUST A FEW MOMENTS AND EMPHASIZE THE INFORMATION IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, WHICH CLEARLY STATES THAT THIS AREA IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS IN THE LAND USE PLAN, AS URBAN LIVING AND SUBURBAN LIVING, WHICH IS PRIVATE RESIDENCES, NOT BUSINESSES. AND EVEN THE AGENDA ITEM A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN INDICATES THAT A PORTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT PROVIDING RESIDENTIAL USES. I DON'T WANT THAT INFORMATION TO BE LOST IN IN IN THIS JUST THIS ONE STATEMENT DEEP INSIDE THIS AGENDA. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT. THAT YOU'VE GOT A LAND USE DESIGNATION THERE AND YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO CHANGE THAT, ALLOW CHANGES TO THAT, ALLOW DIFFERENT USES OF IT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. THANK APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER CARD. BUT IF YOU ALL REFER BACK TO THAT EMAIL FROM MS. SHARPE I JUST WANT TO KEEP SAYING THAT SO YOU GUYS CAN MAKE SURE YOU CONSIDER IT WHEN WE MAKE A MOTION. LAUREN, CAN I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION, PLEASE? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SECONDARY USE? IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SHOWING US? RIGHT? SO UNDER THE URBAN LIVING LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS THE PRIMARY LAND USES INCLUDES NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL OFFICES. UNDER THE SECONDARY LAND USE IT INCLUDES CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL USES, HOTELS, ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS AND SERVICES. UNDER THE SUBURBAN LIVING LAND USE, WHICH IS THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THE PRIMARY LAND USES INCLUDES NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING AMENITIES, AND THE SECONDARY LAND USES INCLUDE CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL USES. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:58 AND COMPILING COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF. THIS IS A NEW ONE FOR ME. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS. I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THAT SETUP IS GOING TO WORK. AND SO THINK OF IT THE AREA OVER BEHIND CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. I KNOW THIS IS A MUCH LARGER SCALE, BUT THEY KIND OF LOOK LIKE AND THEY'RE OLDER, SO THEY WOULDN'T FIT INTO THE ARCHITECTURAL. BUT IT'S KIND OF LOOK LIKE GARAGES. AND I KNOW THERE'S A GYMNASTICS PLACE OVER THERE. I THINK A TAEKWONDO PLACE. I PERSONALLY THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED. I DO AGREE THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR IT. I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT IS SUPPOSED TO GO OVER BEHIND CVS OR WALGREENS, BUT I'VE HEARD PEOPLE ASKING FOR THIS. SMALL BUSINESSES. HAVE YOU SEEN ANY TROUBLE WITH PARKING? NO. NO? SO THESE, LIKE, PEOPLE THAT WILL WALK IN, WILL ONLY BE LIKE A FEW PEOPLE PER EACH ONE? YEAH, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HIGH TRAFFIC. EVEN SOME OF THE ONES THAT I THINK ARE GOING TO BE IT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED RETAIL. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE 1 OR 2 CUSTOMERS AT A TIME. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, HONESTLY. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE LOCATION? THE LOCATION DOESN'T BOTHER ME. UNLESS Y'ALL CAN POINT OUT SOMETHING TO ME THAT I'M NOT SEEING. IT WOULD JUST BE NICE TO HAVE, LIKE, A VISUAL OF IT. YES. LIKE IF YOU COULD SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I MEAN, NOT ANYTHING FORMAL. THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE. LIKE TO SEE WHAT I'M ENVISIONING IS, LIKE, RIGHT BACK OVER HERE. [00:30:03] OFF OF, I GUESS, UP THAT WAY. KIND OF BY SHERLEY ROSAMUND ELEMENTARY ON THE ROAD THAT GETS THERE. THEY HAVE, LIKE A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX OVER THERE RIGHT NOW THAT I'M ASSUMING IS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS. IT'S GOT THE ROLL UP GARAGE DOORS. YOU'VE GOT A SPACE FOR AN OFFICE. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THESE ARE PRETTY POPULAR, LIKE DOWN IN AUSTIN. I'VE SEEN A BUNCH. AND IF YOU GET THE RIGHT DEVELOPER IN THERE, THEY CAN DO REALLY COOL STUFF WHERE THEY HAVE, LIKE, MAKER SPACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, ART INSIDE OF THOSE THINGS. OR YOU COULD EVEN HAVE LIKE DESIGN FIRMS, YOU'VE JUST GOT TO ROLL UP GARAGE DOOR. I MEAN, YOU CAN BUILD OUT THE SPACE TO BE WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT GYMS WILL SOMETIMES TAKE THEM. SO YEAH, THESE ARE YOU CAN DO SOME COOL STUFF WITH THEM WITH THE RIGHT. ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT THERE ARE SOME PLACES LIKE THIS. THERE'S SOME DOWN AROUND COSTCO OFF OF 380 AS WELL. AND IF THEY'RE DONE NICELY, I MEAN, THEY LOOK NICE, RIGHT? I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE FOR A SHOP TYPE THING, BUT ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THE ENTRIES AND EXITS ONTO WHITE. I EXPECT TXDOT WILL HAVE TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT'S SAFE. SOME GOOD POINTS THERE. MY OTHER CONCERN IS, DOES THIS FIT THE. LIKE THE AREA? YEAH. SO YOU'RE NOT FEELING THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR WHAT DID WE CALL IT? THE EXTENDED USES. FLEX OFFICE. FLEX THANK YOU. YEAH. I MEAN, WHITE STREET IS, ONE OF OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES IN AND OUT OF ANNA. SO EVENTUALLY, OVER TIME, THE WEST SIDE'S GOING TO GROW JUST TO LOOK LIKE THE EAST SIDE. IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. SO THIS IS A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION TO GET THE WEST SIDE TO GROW MORE, INSTEAD OF FOCUSING SO MUCH ON THE EAST SIDE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE WHERE ALL OF OUR GROWTH HAS BEEN, IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 75. SO THIS IS A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION TO PULL MORE PATRONS, MORE TAXPAYERS TO GO OVER TO THE WEST SIDE TO VISIT THESE PLACES. BECAUSE IN MY HEAD, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SPACE, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN GO TO, KIND OF LIKE THE YARD QUEENS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT DO THE SIGNAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH NOT REALLY SEEING A LOT OF CUSTOMERS IN PERSON. THEY'RE GOING OUT. RIGHT THERE'S ALSO A BRAND NEW SET OF THEM. IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN HIGHWAY FIVE, I THINK IT'S THROCKMORTON OR MAYBE MELISSA ROAD. THEY JUST BUILT THEM AND THEY'RE WHITE WITH BLACK METAL ROOFS. I MEAN, THEY'RE SHARP LOOKING MODERN FARMHOUSE. THEY'RE DONE RIGHT. THEY LOOK GOOD. AND THAT AND THAT WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING ANYTHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WHITE FOR 55 IF WE APPROVE THIS. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I THINK WE HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION AND EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE NOW WITH KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET WITH THIS PACKAGE. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR ITEM 7.B? I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE. I SECOND. HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER HERMANN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STEWART. AT THIS TIME, ALL COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION IS GOING TO PASS UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ITEM 7.C CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION TO CALL PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 9, WHICH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF THE CITY OF ANNA CODE OF ORDINANCES. OUR MONITORS ARE ON THE FRITZ UP HERE. YEAH, THEY'RE ALL DOING THAT YOU HAVE THE COMPLETE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKET. THESE ARE. THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUESTED AT YOUR LAST MEETING THAT WE BRING IT BACK UP. TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS, AS WELL AS MOVING FORWARD WITH POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. AND SO I WANT TO JUST COVER A FEW THINGS DIRECTLY FROM AND MAKE SURE FOR TRANSPARENCY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE COVERING THIS IN THE STAFF REPORTS. BUT CHAPTER 212 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE DESIGNATES MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING PLATS, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. AND THE STATE HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME AS CITIES GROW. INITIALLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID ALL OF ALMOST ALL THINGS WHERE WHEN THERE WAS NO PROFESSIONAL STAFF. [00:35:04] YOU, AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WOULD BE MAKING ALL THOSE DETERMINATIONS ON ALL OF THESE CASES THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU. IT'D BE THE COMMISSIONER'S COMMISSIONERS RESPONSIBILITIES TO MAKE SURE THE ADVERTISED EVERYTHING MEETS ALL OF THE STATE REQUIREMENTS, AND MEETING ALL THOSE. AS THE CITY EVOLVES AND PROGRESSES AND GROWS, THEY ADD PROFESSIONAL STAFF IN THE. IN THE LATE 90S EARLY 2000S, PROFESSIONAL STAFF CAME ON BOARD AND IN 2023 WE UPDATED THE REGULATIONS THAT MOVED THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR PLATS, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WITH RECENT UPDATES TO STATE LEGISLATIONS AND THE CONTINUED CHANGES THAT OCCUR AT THE STATE LEVEL, WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT AUTHORITIES THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN TO US TO HELP EXPEDITE AND SPEED UP SOME OF THOSE TIMES AND SIMPLIFY PROCESSES FOR NOT ONLY STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT FOR THE APPLICANTS WHO THAT'S REALLY WHERE WHO YOU AND WE ARE HERE TO SERVE. AS ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS COMING IN TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS WHAT THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS ARE. AS WE LOOK AT THESE REGULATIONS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IN, IN UNDER THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THEY GAVE TWO KEY SAFEGUARDS. THOSE TWO KEY SAFEGUARDS ARE THAT THE STAFF MAY, FOR ANY REASON, ELECT TO PRESENT A PLAT TO THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL FOR ACTION. IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WE FELT WAS WRONG WITH THAT PLAT, OR THERE WAS DISAGREEMENTS IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE PLATS FOR THAT, THAT THE AUTHORITY STILL LIES THERE WITH STAFF TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, WE'LL JUST TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. THE OTHER KEY SAFEGUARD IN THAT IS RETAINING THE APPEAL ABILITY FOR THE APPLICANTS. THE APPLICANTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO. IF STAFF WERE TO DISAPPROVE A PLAT, THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPEAL THAT DIRECTLY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. FOR THAT. SO THOSE ARE TWO KEY IMPORTANT FACTORS THAT ARE STILL AND WOULD BE IN PLACE IF WE LOOK AT MAKING CHANGES TO THE REGULATIONS. IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE, WE KIND OF OUTLINED AND EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE THAT THE STATE HAS PUT US UNDER A 30-DAY TIME CLOCK FOR PLATS. ONCE SOMEONE COMES IN AND APPLIES, WE'RE ON THAT SHOT CLOCK, IF YOU WILL, IS THE TERMINOLOGY THAT THAT WE GO THROUGH ON THAT. WE HAVE TO GET THAT THROUGH OUR PROCESSES TO YOU WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME, OR IT'S AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED IN THE STATE THAT IT EXISTS IN. AND WE DON'T REALLY WANT THAT HAPPENING. SO AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO RUSH TO GET THOSE, THOSE PLATS TO YOU. AND THE STATE HAS SAID THAT THERE'S ONLY THREE WAYS TO APPROVE. YOU CAN YOU CAN APPROVE A PLAT WITH CONDITIONS. YOU CAN APPROVE IT AS SUBMITTED. YOU CAN DENY IT OR DISAPPROVE A PLAT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO LIST THE CONDITIONS WHICH ARE DISAPPROVING IT FOR AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE PLAT. THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO WITH THE PLAT. SO THE PROS OF DELEGATION IN THAT AS WE YOU ASK STAFF TO LOOK AT THOSE ITEMS, THERE ARE OR FOUR THINGS THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE REGULATIONS THAT WOULD BE PROS IN CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING THE REGULATIONS TO A DELEGATED STATE, WHICH IS THE USE OF COMMISSION TIME. MOST OF THE PLATS ARE CURRENTLY APPROVED AS A GROUP IN ONE MOTION OR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS, SUGGESTING THE COMMISSION ARE SERVING A LARGELY ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE ON PLANTS THAT MUST BE DECIDED IN OBJECTIVE STANDARDS THAT ARE ADOPTED WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. SECOND IS THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE AND DEADLINE COMPLIANCE STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL ENABLES MORE FLEXIBLE SCHEDULING AND INTERNAL COORDINATION TO MEET THE STATUTORY 30-DAY SHOT CLOCK REQUIREMENTS. THE THE THIRD IS TECHNICAL REVIEW AND CONSISTENCY. THE STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY ADOPTED SUBDIVISION STANDARDS USING THE DETAILED CHECKLIST AND PROCEDURES LEADING TO MORE CONSISTENT DECISIONS WHILE LEAVING POLICY TO THE COMMISSION AND TO THE COUNCIL FOR MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. AND THEN OVERALL OVERSIGHT AND CHECKS AND BALANCES, THE DELEGATION UNDER SECTION 212 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE [00:40:08] IS NOT A LOSS OF AUTHORITY. IT'S THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL RETAINING THE ABILITY TO HEAR APPEALS AND TO RECEIVE PLATS STAFF ELECTS TO PRESENT FOR ANY REASON. THOSE ARE THE MAIN REASONS THAT WOULD BE FOR GOING AHEAD AND DOING, MOVING FORWARD WITH A DELEGATION MODEL THAT THE STATE ALLOWS. THE CONS THAT WE WENT THROUGH ARE PERCEPTION OF TRANSPARENCY. THAT IS THAT THERE IS ADMINISTRATIVE PLATS APPROVALS OCCUR AT THE STAFF LEVEL WITH LESS PUBLIC ATTENTION, WHICH CAN REDUCE PERCEIVED TRANSPARENCY EVEN IF DECISIONS ARE STRICTLY RULED BASED ON. SOME RESIDENTS MAY TRUST THE COMMISSION MORE THAN STAFF REGARDING PLATS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE CONSISTENTLY APPROVED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND NOT TAKEN AND REVIEWED INDEPENDENTLY. SO THOSE ARE THE PROS AND CONS TO IT. AND AS WE YOU KNOW. US STAFF TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT. WE LOOKED AT IT AS A HYBRID WAY, AND WHAT WE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS TO LOOK AT THE HYBRID DELEGATION PROCESS, WHICH IS THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, THIS IS WHAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU WOULD GO WITH AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, IS THAT YOU WOULD DELEGATE IN THE AMENDMENT TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OR THEIR DESIGNEE STAFF WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DISAPPROVE PLATS, AND THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD RETAIN THE ROLE OF REVIEW OF ALL THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THAT THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL WILL ACT ON APPEALS OF STAFF DISAPPROVALS AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 212 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND THAT PLATS THAT STAFF ELECTS TO BRING BACK TO YOU FOR WHATEVER REASON WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS THAT THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND COME BEFORE YOU AND, AND WOULD COME BACK FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THOSE CONSISTENT WITH WHATEVER WAS ADOPTED IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. NOW, WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CHECKS AND BALANCES ON ALL OF THESE THINGS. AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT IF WE DID GO WITH THE DELEGATION, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES PUT INTO PLACE WITH THAT. AND WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST AND RECOMMEND IS, IS THAT WE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT PERCEPTION AND TRANSPARENCY CON IN THAT IT WOULD BE TO HAVE A REGULAR REPORTING, PROVIDING PERIODICALLY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL ON WHAT PLATS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND GIVING THE DETAILS ON THAT. THAT WOULD BE SET UP IN THE ORDINANCE OR BY POLICY. EITHER WAY, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO THAT IN THE ORDINANCE. IT'S, IT'S MORE CLEAR FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS, WHETHER YOU SET THAT UP ON QUARTERLY REPORTS, SEMIANNUAL OR MONTHLY. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU FEEL IS BEST FOR THAT CHECK IN BALANCE AND TRANSPARENCY ON THAT. AND THOSE INFORMATIONAL REPORTS WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL, WHERE THEY WOULD LIST ALL THE PLATS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY, INCLUDING BASIC PROJECT INFORMATION AND NOTABLE CONDITIONS THAT WERE RELATED TO THOSE PLANS. SO THAT'S KIND OF IN A NUTSHELL, THE BIG SCOPE OF THINGS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SITE PLANS LOOKING AT THOSE DOING THE SAME THING AS LOOKING AT EXPEDITING THE TIME FRAMES THAT IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH THERE IN THE DETAILS THAT ARE PROVIDED ON THESE INFORMATION. AND SO WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DELEGATION PROCESS OR THOUGHTS ON THAT? YES. SO DOES THIS NEGATE THE NEED FOR A CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS IN OUR DURING OUR MEETINGS? YES FOR PLATS. YEAH. WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE OFF BECAUSE THOSE WOULD BE THEN ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE DEVELOPERS COMING IN, THEY'VE ALREADY REZONED OR THE PROPERTIES ALREADY ZONED, AND THEY WANT TO PLAT THE PROPERTY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO US TAKE THEIR APPLICATION, WAIT FOR THE NEARLY THE FULL 30-DAYS TO GET IT ON AN AGENDA FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW AND APPROVE AND CONSENT. IF STAFF'S ABLE TO GET THAT REVIEWED WITHIN A TWO WEEK TIME FRAME, WHICH TYPICALLY WE DO, AND THEN LET THE DEVELOPER APPROVE IT. [00:45:01] GIVE IT TO THEM AND THEY'RE DONE WITHIN THAT TWO WEEKS TIME VERSUS HAVING TO WAIT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. SINCE THESE ARE ALL MINISTERIAL ACTIONS THAT ARE ON THESE PLATS, THERE'S THEY HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THESE REQUIREMENTS. IF THEY DON'T, WE DON'T APPROVE THEM. OKAY THANK YOU. BUT BEING A DEVELOPER, THE NICE THING ABOUT THAT IS IT SPEEDS UP THE TIME [LAUGHTER]. YEAH, IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE REASON WHY THE STATE MADE THOSE CHANGES IS BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY CRACKING DOWN ON THE CITY'S AUTHORITIES AND POWERS FOR GOOD REASON. IN SOME INSTANCES. SOME CITIES DO A REALLY GOOD JOB, OTHERS DON'T DO SUCH A GOOD JOB ON THOSE THINGS. AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE PASSED IN THE RECENT AND, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WORTH EXPLORING. AND THE REQUIREMENT ON YOU IS 30 CALENDAR DAYS, NOT 30 BUSINESS DAYS? YEAH, IT IS 30 CALENDAR DAYS SO. IN JUST TO CLARIFY. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD. WE WOULDN'T NEED CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ANYMORE. THAT WOULD BE HANDLED AT A STAFF LEVEL. BUT ANYTHING THAT DID THEY WANTED SOME TYPE OF AMENDMENT OR SOME TYPE OF VARIANCE THAT THAT WOULD STILL COME BEFORE US. CORRECT? THAT WOULD. THAT WOULD THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE WOULD WE'D HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANTED TO DO ON THOSE SITUATIONS. A LOT OF CITIES HAVE WROTE IN THAT THEY'RE THEY WHEN THEY REDO THEIR REGULATIONS, THEY GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE ISSUED FOR VARIANCES TO OR EXCEPTIONS TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE WHEN WE BRING AN AMENDMENT BACK TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, YOU GUYS HAVE CONSISTENTLY GIVEN APPROVALS FOR ALL OF THESE EXCEPTIONS OR VARIANCES. IT MAKES SENSE. IS THERE A REASON TO HAVE THAT? OR IS THAT AN OUTDATED SOMETHING THAT WE JUST NEED TO CHANGE IN THE REGULATIONS SO THAT THERE'S NO NEED TO GIVE ANY VARIANCES FOR THAT? BECAUSE IT'S COVERED, THEN COVERED BY THE REGULATIONS AND JUST GO AHEAD AND AMEND IT AND FIX IT. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WE WOULD IF WE AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, YOU GUYS WOULD COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL AS TO HOW THE ORDINANCE WOULD READ? YES. OKAY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, LET ME RUN THROUGH WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS AND THEN WE CAN ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS FROM THERE. BUT THEN UNDER THE NEXT STEPS, UNDER THE STAFF REPORT, IS THAT WE WITH THIS WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. AND WE AND WE KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PERFECT FOR A SHOT, BUT WE WANT TO DO OUR BEST TO GET IT EXACTLY THE WAY WE WANT IT. YOU GUYS HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN COME BEFORE YOU AND WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. AND SO WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT YOU WOULD CALL A PUBLIC HEARING IS THAT WE WOULD PREPARE STAFF WOULD PREPARE A TEXT AND FORMAL ORDINANCE OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, AND BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. THE AMENDMENTS WOULD INCLUDE OTHER AMENDMENTS TO THE REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE CLARITY AND SIMPLIFY THE REGULATIONS. WE WOULD THEN TAKE THOSE SPECIFIC DETAILS AND INCLUDE THAT THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING PLATS WOULD BE DELEGATING THAT AUTHORITY TO STAFF UNDER SECTION 212 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND ADDING A DELEGATION SECTION TRACKING THE LANGUAGE OF SECTION 212 EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZING SPECIFIC OFFICER OF THE CITY TO BE THE APPROVER OF THOSE OF THOSE PLATS MEETING ALL THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THEN STAFF WOULD CODIFY. ALL OF THESE AND KIND OF PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER. AND AND WE WOULD TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND MOVE THAT FORWARD WITH AN UPDATE FOR THE PROCEDURES BASED ON ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT WE MAKE IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE WOULD AS WE'RE DOING THIS, WE MIGHT AS WELL TAKE A LOOK AT AND ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS WHEN WE BRING THOSE TO YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THOSE THINGS TO YOU THAT YOU HAVE SEEN. ADDRESS THE 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK, ALIGN ALL THE CHECKLISTS THAT WE THEN HAVE TO ALL THE AMENDMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A FORMAL ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. AND SO BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO BE DEFENSIBLE AND EASY, EASY AND SIMPLE FOR NOT ONLY STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE WANTING OR DELEGATING US TO BE ABLE TO DO AND WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET WHAT OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THE CITY OF ANNA? [00:50:05] OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR START FIRING MORE ROUNDS AT YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:20 P.M. NOW DOES ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? [LAUGHTER] I JUST WANTED TO GET THESE ON RECORD, BUT THAT'S FINE. I DON'T LIKE SEEING DUMB IT DOWN, BUT CAN YOU SIMPLIFY WHAT EXACTLY COMES FOR US ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BY, LIKE, TELLING US, LIKE THEY MEET THE PLANNING AND ZONING REGULATIONS. LIKE THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND. THEY'RE NOT ASKING TO GO TO A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS TO WRITE ANYTHING LIKE EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC, TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, LIKE WHAT A TYPICAL AGENDA ITEM LOOKS LIKE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. YEAH. SO YOU HAVE WE HAVE WE RECEIVED A PLAT THAT REQUIRES APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW THAT STAFF RECEIVES THAT PLAT. WE REVIEW IT FOR ALL THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. WE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS, AND IF THEY MEET ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, THEN YOU WILL RECEIVE IN YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, AN APPROVAL FOR THAT PLAT, PARTICULARLY IF THERE IS SOMETHING, SAY, A VARIANCE THAT THEY NEEDED OR A SETBACK THAT'S SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT THEY CAN REQUEST, AND YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GIVE. THEN THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT STAFF REPORT OR WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT STAFF REPORT FOR THAT. IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS ON IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS PRIOR TO COMING BEFORE YOU AT THAT TIME, WHICH WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO GO THROUGH THAT 30 TO 45 DAY TIME FRAME. PUBLIC NOTICES TO ADDRESS THAT. IF THAT WAS THEN APPROVED, THEN IT COULD COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FORMAL ACTION ON THAT. WE DON'T SEE VERY MANY OF THOSE. AND FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD VERY MANY OF THOSE AT ALL. BUT WE HAVE HAD IS THERE ARE CERTAIN ONE THING THAT HAPPENS WITH THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS OVER TIME IS THE SUBDIVISION AND ENGINEERING DESIGN GUIDELINES SOMETIMES GET VERY INTERTWINED TOGETHER. AND ONE THING WE WANT TO DO IS TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE KEPT COMPLETELY SEPARATE OF WHAT THOSE ARE FOR, BECAUSE THOSE ENGINEERING DESIGN GUIDELINES CAN BE APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND GO THROUGH HIS APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THOSE THINGS. THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE STRICTLY WHAT IS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO GO THROUGH AND BUILD THAT SUBDIVISION THAT'S ADOPTED IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION. SO THERE'S LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TYPICALLY DON'T GIVE THE DEPTH OF ASPHALT OR CONCRETE THAT'S IN THE ENGINEERING DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHEREAS THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS DO DICTATE THE WIDTH OF THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE SIZE OF THE STREET THAT MAY GO IN THERE. AS FAR AS WIDTH GOES, IT DOESN'T GET INTO THE MORE OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THAT. BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD HAS TO DO WITH CUL-DE-SAC LENGTHS IS IN THERE, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH STAFF IS THAT'S I THINK ONE THING THAT DOES NEED TO BE AMENDED. HAVING A MINIMUM DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE ON THAT. THAT'S THE I THINK ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE VARIANCES THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN IN REGARDS TO CUL-DE-SACS HAVING A MINIMUM LENGTH ON THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE TO DISCUSS THAT. HEY, HERE'S THAT. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IS THE LENGTH OF CUL-DE-SACS. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. DO WE REALLY NEED. TO TALK ABOUT IT. WHAT'S WHAT'S THE PROS AND CONS TO THAT CUL-DE-SAC LENGTH? WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE FOR IT? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PURPOSE WAS? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS AT THIS TIME, MAYBE IT'S NO LONGER NEEDED OR OUTDATED AT THIS TIME. SO DOES THAT HELP CLARIFY THAT? YEAH? YES. OKAY. I ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS IS THAT AND YOU ALREADY SAID IT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE WHAT IS IT, A CON. THE TRANSPARENCY. YES. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK THAT WE LOSE OUR CONTROL UP HERE, THAT WE CAN'T SEE IT, THAT IT'S JUST GOING TO FLY UNDERNEATH THE RADAR AND THINGS ARE GOING TO GET APPROVED, THAT MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE CALLED OUT IF IT WENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. SO I'M JUST I ASKED YOU TO EXPLAIN THAT SO PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY MEET ALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS, PER THE CURRENT CODE, THAT THERE IS NO REASON FOR US TO DENY THAT. [00:55:01] AND ALL WE'RE DOING IS SAYING, LET'S NOT MAKE THE DESIGNER, THE DEVELOPER, WAIT 30 DAYS TO HEAR THAT. LET'S GIVE THEM 14 DAYS TO HEAR THAT. THAT WAY, IT CAN PROGRESS FORWARD TO ITS NEXT STEPS FASTER. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THAT IS. THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR THAT IS TO CLARIFY AND SEPARATE THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THOSE DETAILS THAT ARE IN THE SUBDIVISION. IF THEY MEET THAT, YOU HAVE TO SAY YES. CORRECT. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE, LIKE THE PARK SIZES OR THEY DON'T LIKE THE PARKING LOT REQUIREMENT, THAT'S IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING. I MEAN, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AMENDED, CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED. EVEN IF IT WAS OUR JOB TO SIT HERE AND LOOK AT PARK SPACE WITH A MULTI-FAMILY NEXT TO IT OR SOMETHING. WE'D HAVE TO APPROVE BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE CODE. WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO REWRITE THE CODE UP HERE. SO IF IT WAS, LET'S JUST SAY A HALF ACRE OF PARKLAND HAD TO BE PROVIDED WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY LIKE THAT WAS IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE, WE WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT. IF THEY PROVIDED A HALF AN ACRE, IT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT FOR US. STAFF WAS GOING TO BE HELD TO THE SAME GUIDELINES THAT WE WOULD BE HELD TO, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST I WANT TO GET ALL THIS OUT OF THERE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND BE LIKE, WELL, YOU TOOK AWAY AUTHORITY. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BEING TRANSPARENT. THE TRANSPARENCY HAS BEEN THROWN OUT A LOT THIS YEAR ACROSS MANY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND EVEN CITY COUNCIL. SO I JUST I WANT TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH OUT THERE SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TONIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF VERBIAGE, IT'S A LOT OF FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE ON, AND THOSE WHO DON'T WORK FOR THE MUNICIPALITY OR DON'T WORK FOR PLANNING AND ZONING MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPT LIKE WE DO, BECAUSE WE DO IT EVERY DAY, DAY IN, DAY OUT. RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, THAT AUTHORITY IS THE SAME. THE AUTHORITY YOU'RE DELEGATING TO STAFF IS NO DIFFERENT THAN AUTHORITY THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE REGULATIONS, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE BUT TO CHANGE THOSE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER PART. ALSO, SOMETIMES THAT GETS CONFUSING IS WHEN WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES TO A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THEY HAVE TWO PARTS TO A PROJECT, THEY HAVE THE PLAT, AND THEN THEY HAVE THE ZONING PART OF IT. AND THE ZONING IS YOU HAVE A LOT OF DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY TO THAT, AND SO DOES THE COUNCIL FOR DISCRETIONARY ON WHEN YOU REVIEW THOSE THINGS, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE SAME DISCRETION WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. IT IS SET. THOSE ARE THE REGULATIONS. YOU ADOPT THEM. YOU SAY THAT'S WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO MEET. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS CHECK RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S WHAT STAFF WILL CHECK IF, IF WE MOVE TOWARDS THE DELEGATION. SO IF THERE WERE A VARIANCE IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COME TO US? IT DEPENDS. YOU CAN WRITE IT UP TO HAVE ALL VARIANCES GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THAT'S HOW WE WOULD PROBABLY WRITE THAT INTO THE REGULATIONS. IS, IS THAT ALL VARIANCES FROM THESE REGULATIONS WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND. SO STAFF COULDN'T APPROVE A VARIANCE? IF WE WRITE IT THAT WAY STAFF COULDN'T APPROVE IT. CUL-DE-SAC TYPE THING OUT OF THERE IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ANYMORE. RIGHT. SECONDLY, IF WE DID THIS, LIKELY WE WOULDN'T HAVE APPROVED THE DOWNTOWN ANNA AND THE LINDSEY IN THE CONSENT ITEMS TONIGHT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM. FOR. WE APPROVED TONIGHT IN THE CONSENT ITEM FINAL PLAT FOR DOWNTOWN LINDSEY PLACE. THOSE WOULD NOT HAVE ENDED UP IN THE CONSENT ITEMS. YOU WOULD HAVE LIKELY APPROVED THOSE IN STAFF? WE WOULD HAVE APPROVED THOSE AS STAFF. AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A REPORT ON THERE SHOWING THAT WE APPROVED THAT PLOT. SO WE GET A REPORT EVERY MEETING THAT SHOWS WHAT YOU DID IN THE PREVIOUS 30 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THOSE REGULATIONS. AND EARLIER TONIGHT YOU SHOWED US A LIST OF THINGS THAT WERE IN PROCESS. SOME OF THEM SAID STAFF APPROVED. YES. SO THERE ARE ALREADY THINGS CURRENTLY THAT STAFF DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE. OKAY. AND SO IT'S NOT. FOR EXAMPLE, MOST OF THE TIME SITE PLANS ALSO DON'T GO TO THE MOST PLANNING COMMISSIONS HAVE ALREADY DELEGATED SITE PLANS TO STAFF. MOST COMMUNITIES HAVE ALREADY PUSHED THOSE TO. HOWEVER, THERE ARE PRACTICES THAT YOU DO BUILD INTO THE ZONING REGULATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, SPECIAL USE PERMITS WHERE YOU WANT TO SEE THOSE DETAILS ON THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING IN FOR A SPECIAL SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. YOU WANT TO SEE THOSE DETAILS COME IN TO YOU. AND SOME OF THOSE WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT. WE MAY WANT TO HAVE MORE DETAILS, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE NOW FOR MONTHS, [01:00:02] SEVERAL COMMENTS ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR REGULATIONS NECESSARILY, BUT THERE ARE REALLY GOOD COMMENTS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR REGULATIONS AND SAY, DO WE NEED TO ADD THAT TO CLARIFY AND CODIFY IT SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT'S WHAT WE WANT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN ORDER TO HELP YOU MAKE A BETTER DECISION? THANK YOU OKAY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM, BUT I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. MS. SHARPE INCLUDED THIS AGENDA ITEM IN HER EMAIL ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT PAPER. IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD TIME TO READ THAT AND UNDERSTAND HER CONCERNS WITH IT. THAT'S WHY I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT CONTROL, WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T APPROVE, AND WHAT OUR BASIS IS THAT WE APPROVE THE ITEMS. IF THEY MEET ALL PLANNING AND ZONING REGULATIONS AND ENGINEERING, THEN THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO APPROVE IT. I THINK THAT WAS MS. SHARPE'S CONCERNS WAS THAT WE WOULD LOSE OUR POWER. YOU KNOW, THERE WOULDN'T BE THE TRANSPARENCY. JUST TO KIND OF SUM UP HER EMAIL. YEAH. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE THAT WE CAN BUILD IN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S ZONING OR WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. CHECK AND BALANCES ON THERE. BECAUSE YOU ARE THE POLICY MAKERS, THE COUNCIL IS THE POLICY OFFICIAL AND ALL SAY ALL. WHEN IT COMES TO THE ADOPTION OF THE REGULATIONS, YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THEM. AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE YOU HERE, IS TO HELP HELP THEM TO DO THAT. AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL. THEY'RE GOING TO FINALIZE THAT AND CODIFY IT BY PASSING IT BY ORDINANCE. AND THEN THAT'S ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS OF FREEING UP SOME OF YOUR TIME, BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO FOCUS MORE TIME ON CHECKS AND BALANCES. ARE WE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT? HEY, WE SAW A PROJECT. CAN YOU PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA? I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. IT WHAT YOU MAY HAVE PICTURED IN YOUR HEAD AND WHAT ACTUALLY GOT BUILT MAY NOT MATCH. AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT POLICY CHANGES. OR YOU CAN RECOMMEND THOSE POLICY CHANGES TO THE COUNCIL AND AND HAVE A GREATER ROLE IN SEEING WHAT THE FUTURE ENDS UP HAPPENING BY REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT ARE WE DOING IT RIGHT? DID WE GET IT RIGHT OR AND COMING BACK AND SAYING, YEAH, LOOK AT THIS. WE DID DO THIS RIGHT? THIS IS EXACTLY THE WAY WE WE APPROVED IT, EXACTLY THE WAY WE TURNED OUT. AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE IN THE FUTURE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT TIME TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY BE BOMBARDED WITH LARGE CONSENT AGENDAS AND OTHER PROJECTS, BUT TAKING THE TIME TO REVIEW. DO WE HAVE THE POLICY RIGHT? OR DO WE NEED TO REVIEW IT? IT DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO CHANGE EVERYTHING EVERY TIME, BUT IT DOES GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THOSE. SO WHAT'S UP BEFORE US TONIGHT IS, IF I RECALL FROM THE STAFF REPORT, IS THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS. ONE, WE COULD APPROVE THIS AS, AS IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED TONIGHT? NO. OKAY. NO. SO WE COULD PUT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO APPROVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THIS. YES THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS. HER COMMENTS WERE SPOT ON. TRANSPARENT. TRANSPARENT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WILL TAKE THIS BACK IF YOU GIVE US THE DIRECTION. YES. PROCEED WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL PROCEED WITH GETTING THE DOCUMENT READY SO WE CAN REDLINE IT TO SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCES. THESE MEETINGS MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. IT MAY NOT HAPPEN IN ONE MEETING. WE MAY. WE MAY JUST TABLE IT BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE, TIME OUT. [LAUGHTER] WE'RE DONE. BUT RIGHT NOW THE DOCUMENT IS OVER 130 PAGES. THE IDEAL SITUATION. I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS WHEN WE DO THIS, AND CUT THAT DOWN TO BETWEEN 30 AND 80 PAGES. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR DEVELOPERS WHO DO THIS ALL THE TIME, HAVE A HARD TIME, AND SOMETIMES EVEN US AS STAFF, WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND READ BACK THROUGH IT, IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE NEED SOME DIRECTION AND CLARITY ON SOME OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE THERE ARE GOOD THINGS IN THERE, BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT. AND THIS WOULD HAPPEN AS PART OF OUR STANDARD PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING? YES. WE WOULD PUT THIS. WE WOULD PUT THIS AT THE END OF YOUR AGENDAS. TYPICALLY WE'RE GOING TO PUT THESE ANY AMENDMENTS TO REGULATIONS AT THE END. SO IT GIVES US PLENTY OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT THOSE. THAT'S WHY WE LEFT TRAINING OFF TODAY BECAUSE I KNEW THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HAVE A LOT MORE CONVERSATION THAN WE TYPICALLY DO, [01:05:05] SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN SAY, YEP, TIME OUT, WE'RE DOING GOOD. LET'S TABLE THIS AND MOVE ON. OR NO, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE GIST OF THAT. WE READ THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT. WE'RE. LET'S MOVE ON TO THIS PART. THIS IS WHAT I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT AND FOCUS ON ALL OF THOSE AND GIVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO HEAR THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THE REASONS WHY WE'RE DOING IT IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU KALEB. YOU BET. ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:35 P.M. OKAY. LET'S DISCUSS. SO, LIKE TOM SAID, ALL WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS A MOTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN NEXT STEPS WOULD BE THAT THEY HAVE TO PRESENT TO US AGAIN THE VERBIAGE. AND WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT ON A FUTURE MEETING DATE. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN I REQUEST A MOTION HERE IN ABOUT TWO SECONDS. OKAY. SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT TO BRING UP COMMENTS CONCERNS BEFORE I REQUEST? DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM 7.C? I MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER MARTIN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STEWART. THE MATTER IS NOW OPEN FOR VOTE COMMISSIONERS PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. IF I MAY CHAIR, JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THAT WOULD BE ITEM. ALTERNATIVE 1. APPROVING ALTERNATIVE 1. PROCEED WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. PERFECT THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS ARE GOING TO REVOTE BECAUSE WE ADDED SOME VERBIAGE IN THERE. OKAY PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY WISH TO DISCUSS? [8. Future Agenda Items] OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL BE ONE. THAT WILL BE COMING ON THE AGENDA, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE SEE IT AGAIN. IF NOT GUYS, I'M GOING TO MOTION TO ADJOURN. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MEETING IS GOING TO BE ADJOURNED AT 7:37 P.M. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.