[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.] [00:00:06] ALL RIGHT. AT 6:00, WE GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ANNA PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING FOR DECEMBER 1ST, 2025. THE TIME IS 6 P.M. ON THE DOT. WE ARE MISSING COMMISSIONER WALDEN. QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. JUST A NOTE FOR COMING UP. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON OPEN SESSION AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM, TURN IT INTO THE CITY STAFF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. TWO, INVOCATION. ALL RISE FOR INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COMMISSIONER LONGMIRE. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MEET TONIGHT. WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE THIS COUNCIL IN THEIR DECISION MAKING AND DRIVE THEM TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT BENEFIT THE PEOPLE OF ANNA AND THE CITY OF ANNA. WE ASK THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM ON THE MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO SPEAKER CARDS. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO FOUR. DIRECTOR'S REPORT. DIRECTOR. YES. YOU HAVE ON THE DAIS AND AND WE'LL PULL IT UP ON THE SCREEN. [4. Director's Report.] HERE IS THE MONTHLY REPORT GIVES YOU GUYS AN UPDATE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE OUR LAST MEETING AND WHAT'S SCHEDULED COMING UP AND WHAT'S ON WILL BE MOVING FORWARD. ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY ON THAT. IF NOT, I JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. AND JUST KIND OF GET THIS OUT THERE FOR YOU GUYS TO BE STARTING TO THINK ABOUT. WE ARE JUST DUE TO SCHEDULES AND MEETING TIMES AND, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. ONE THING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND I WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT, LOOK AT YOUR CALENDARS AND WE CAN WE'LL DISCUSS THIS MORE IN OUR DECEMBER MEETING OR IN OUR JANUARY MEETING IS MOVING THE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DATE TO THE SECOND, POSSIBLY THE SECOND THURSDAY. STARTING IN FEBRUARY, THAT GIVES EVERYONE TIME TO KIND OF CHECK YOUR SCHEDULE, SEE IF THAT WORKS OR DOESN'T WORK. WE WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER DATES. WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT DATES THAT HAVE THE LEAST CONFLICTS WITH HOLIDAYS AND OTHER THINGS, AS WELL AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COME UP, JUST MAKING SURE YOU GUYS HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO TO LOOK OVER YOUR AGENDAS WITH THE STATE LAW CHANGES, WITH THE AGENDAS AND HOW LONG WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM OUT AHEAD OF TIME, AND TO GIVE YOU GUYS PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK OVER THOSE. BEFORE MEETING, WE WERE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY MOVING THOSE FROM THE MONDAY TO LATER IN THE WEEK TO GIVE YOU GUYS MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO JUST FOR NOW, I WANT TO JUST PUT THAT PLACEHOLDER FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT SOME MORE IN JANUARY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT OR NOT. ALSO, YOU WILL NOTICE TODAY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR LAST MEETING, THAT YOU WILL SEE ANY RESOLUTIONS IN YOUR PACKETS ANY LONGER AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE, DOING AWAY WITH KIND OF SOME REDUNDANCY. BECAUSE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS ARE YOUR FINDINGS WHEN AND THAT'S WHY WE ENCOURAGE THE OPEN DISCUSSION AND DIALOG IS SO THAT IS YOUR FINDINGS, AND THE RESOLUTIONS AREN'T REQUIRED BY STATE LAW OR ANY OTHER STATE REQUIREMENTS. AND THIS ALSO HELPS FREE UP STAFF TIME TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH APPLICANTS WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND SEVERAL HOURS PUTTING THESE TOGETHER, EACH ONE, AND DOUBLE CHECKING AND TRIPLE CHECKING THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACCURATE. WHEN ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT'S IN YOUR STAFF, REPORTS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR STAFF REPORTS. AND AND THEN IT'S RECIPROCATED IN YOUR FINDINGS WITH THE OFFICIAL MINUTES. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM SIX CONSENT ITEMS. [6. Consent Items.] ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? NO. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? [00:05:02] MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM SEVEN CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. [7. Items For Individual Consideration and Public Hearings.] CONSIDER. DISCUSS ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION TO ESTABLISH ZONING ON PLUS OR MINUS 2.4 ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF LEONARD AVENUE, PLUS OR MINUS 189FT SOUTH OF GARDENDALE HOLLOW TO LOCAL COMMERCIAL C-1. APPLICANT IS CATHERINE MCMINIMY. SORRY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ONE. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:06 P.M. ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? HEARING NONE, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, THE APPLICANT HERE. I WAS GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW REAL QUICK. SO THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A PETITION TO ANNEX ABOUT 2.4 ACRES INTO THE CITY AND ESTABLISH A BASE ZONING OF LOCAL COMMERCIAL. YOU CAN SEE HERE IT'S LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF LEONARD, JUST SOUTH OF CLEMENS CREEK MIDDLE, I BELIEVE. CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS ON THE PROPERTY. PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUESTING TO ZONE IT FOR COMMERCIAL USES. WE MAILED OUT NOTICES AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES. THIS IS THE SURROUNDING LAND USE AND ZONING. THERE'S A MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH THAT'S ETJ RESIDENT OR IN THE ETJ THAT'S A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SCHOOL THERE TO THE NORTH AND THE WEST. LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, IT'S DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN LIVING, WHICH DOES INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING AMENITIES AS WELL AS IS ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL ARTERIAL ROAD, LEONARD AVENUE, GOING THROUGH THERE. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS MAP, PLEASE? SO EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH OF IT IS ETJ. YES. SO DO YOU MAILED NOTICES TO THE PEOPLE IN THE ETJ? NO, WE DO NOT. SO THE ONLY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN NOTICES MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE SCHOOL. IT WOULD BE THE SCHOOL. THE ANNA RANCH. HOA OWNS THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER OF THE ANNA RANCH PHASE TWO TRACK. SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE GONE TO ANY INDIVIDUALS OWNERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN ANYTHING WITHIN 200FT. RIGHT? CORRECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BASED ON THIS? I DO HAVE A PROCESS QUESTION. SO IT'S NOT IT'S IN THE ETJ AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO WOULD WE ZONE IT BEFORE IT BECOMES ANNEXED? WELL, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU WOULD BE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO DO THE ZONING. IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH ANNEXATION BEFORE THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE A TAKE FORMAL ACTION ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR ZONING. SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO RUN THE ZONING THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ANNEXATIONS ONLY GO THROUGH THE COUNCIL. AND SO BUT WHEN IT GOES ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COUNCIL, THEY WILL HAVE TO TAKE ACTION FIRST ON THE ANNEXATION, THEN SECOND ON THE ZONING. WILL THEY DO THAT AT THE SAME TIME, OR WILL BE TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO COME FORWARD? I BELIEVE BOTH OF THOSE CAN BE RUN CONCURRENTLY AT THE SAME MEETING. WITH IT BEING C-1, WHAT ALL CAN GO ON THERE? IN THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL ZONING? [00:10:01] OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T KNOW EVERY SINGLE USE, BUT TYPICALLY SMALLER COMMERCIAL USES SORT OF LOCAL SERVING AMENITIES COMPARED TO THE C-2 ZONING, WHICH IS LIKE THE BIG COMMERCIAL BOX STORES. AND I THINK WITH BEING SO CLOSE TO A SCHOOL, THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME LIMITATIONS AS TO WHAT EXACTLY THEY CAN PUT THERE IN C-1. WE'RE JUST MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS TONIGHT. CAN WE INCLUDE ANY OF THAT IN THERE OF LIKE TYPES OF SERVICES THAT COULD GO, OR IS THIS JUST. SO WITH THE THIS IS ONE OF THE THE DILEMMAS WITH HAVING A ZONING REQUEST WITHOUT HAVING ANY TYPE OF PLAN SUBMITTED WITH IT IS IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANY CONFIDENCE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR, BECAUSE THEY COULD REQUEST TO BE ABLE TO USE ANY OF THOSE BY RIGHT USES IN THAT C-1 DISTRICT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO GO THERE, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT SCHOOL DOES IMPACT SOME COMMERCIAL USES. BUT THAT IS ONE REASON WHY THE MOST OF YOUR POLICING POWER IS IN THE ZONING. SO IF YOU IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT IS, IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO, TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT OR VOTE NO ON THE REZONING UNTIL THEY PROVIDE SOMETHING MORE IN DETAIL TO YOU. OR YOU CAN ROLL THE DICE WITH BASED ON WHAT THE APPLICANT GIVES IN THEIR PRESENTATION AND GO WITH THAT. BUT THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO GO BY AT THIS POINT. SO THAT WILL BE YOUR YOUR DETERMINATION ON ON HOW YOU WOULD PREFER TO, TO TO USE THAT POLICE POWER. THAT BEING SAID, HEARING OUR DISCUSSION THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. ANY COMMENTS? SURE. ALL RIGHT. YEP. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ROBERT PARRISH, 1001 HIDDEN OAKS COURT IN COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS. I'M THE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE DEVELOPER HBC INTERESTS OUT OF WICHITA FALLS. OUR INTENDED USE HERE IS PRIMARILY DAYCARE AND THEN SERVICE ORIENTED MEDICAL OFFICE, DENTIST OFFICE. SOMETHING IN THAT WAY IS WHAT OUR INTENT IS NOW. SAYING INTENT IS NOW, WOULD WOULD THE APPLICANT BE WILLING TO PUT SOME OF THAT. WE HAVE WE HAVE NEGOTIATED WITH THE CHILD CARE DAYCARE. WE HAVEN'T FOR THE OTHER LOT BECAUSE WE NEED TO DESIGN THE ONE LOT FOR DAYCARE FIRST TO SEE WHAT OUR RESIDUAL IS, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S BIG ENOUGH TO EVEN HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THERE. YEAH. KNOWING THE THE POSITION WE'RE IN NOW, BUT WOULD THE APPLICANT BE WILLING TO PUT IN WRITING OR PUT STIPULATIONS ON THE PROPERTY WITH IT? SEE ONE THAT IT WOULD BE DAYCARE AND MEDICAL OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, OR ARE THEY LOOKING TO HAVE IT NOT BEING RESTRICTED IN THE C-1? WELL, THE C-1 WAS A ZONING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE WHEN WE HAD OUR CITY MEETING. NOW, IF IT IS DAYCARE, WE DO KNOW WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR DAYCARE UNDER YOUR CRITERIA. SO WE'LL BE BACK. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:14 P.M.. CONFINED COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMENTS OR MOTION? CAN WE MAKE THE MOTION WITH THE STIPULATION THAT IT'S DESIGNED FOR OR INTENDED FOR DAYCARE AND OR MEDICAL OR DENTAL? WE'RE JUST MAKING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. WE CAN PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE IF WE IF WE WANT THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IT AS THEY GO THROUGH THE ZONING. SO ABSOLUTELY. MORE MORE STIPULATION YOU MEAN THAN JUST WIDE OPEN. SEE ONE. YEAH. SO WOULD I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BASED ON THE PRESENTATION BY THE OWNER OR THE DEVELOPER THAT IT BE USED FOR A DAYCARE FACILITY, MEDICAL OR DENTAL OFFICES. TO CLARIFY, YOUR MOTION IS FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF C-1 ZONING, IF LIMITED TO THOSE CLASSES OF USES. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A [00:15:10] MOTION AND A SECOND. MOTION PASSES SIX NOTHING. MOVING ON TO NUMBER EIGHT. [8. Training] TRAINING. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO MAKE ALL MY COMMENTS. JUDGED ON THE FACT THAT WE JUST HAD A A LONG WEEKEND, AND I KNOW WE MAY BE STILL IN THE, THE MODE OF RELAXATION A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO LET THAT YOUR COMMENTS JUDGE HOW LONG WE GO FOR FOR TRAINING. I DON'T WANT TO GO ANY MORE LONGER THAN 30 MINUTES. AND SO IF WE WANT TO GO SHORTER THAN THAT WE SURELY CAN. AND SO JUST WANT TO KIND OF AS WE TALKED ABOUT IS JUST KIND OF GO OVER SOME GENERAL TOPICS ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING AND TRAINING. JUST GENERAL TRAINING, STARTING WITH THE BASICS. AND IF I CAN'T GET A GOOD LAUGH OUT OF YOU GUYS AT THE BEGINNING OF IT, THEN I DON'T KNOW. THIS COULD BE PRETTY HARD BECAUSE I, KNOWING WHAT WE'VE DEALT WITH AND WHAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT COMMENTS WITH MULTIFAMILY, I THOUGHT I'LL JUST THROW THIS ONE JOKE UP THERE. IT'S A OLD COMIC ON THAT. AND BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, WHEN WE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING, ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IS TAKE YOUR EXPERIENCES WHERE WE START WITH EACH OF YOU AND YOU ALL ARE REPRESENTED BECAUSE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE CHOSEN YOU AND, AND PLACED YOU ON, ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO FULFILL THAT ROLE AND TO BE ABLE TO BRING YOUR KNOWLEDGE, YOUR EXPERIENCE, AND AND SHARE THAT BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE YOU GUYS REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. AND SO WITH THAT, IT'S ALSO HARD WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUTTING PLANS TOGETHER AND WHEN WE SEE THINGS THAT ALL OF US 100% AGREE ON EVERYTHING, AND IT'S OKAY NOT TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING. BUT WHERE WE GREW UP, THE THINGS THAT WE, WE, WE, WE'VE DONE, THE THINGS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S WHY THE THREE IMAGES THAT YOU SEE UP THERE, I TRIED TO PICK THREE IMAGES BASED ON THE FACT THAT, OKAY, THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S PLACES THAT WE EACH HAVE BEEN THAT WERE SPECIAL TO US WHEN WE WERE, WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP RAISING OUR FAMILIES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS YOU KNOW, THE MOVIE THEATER IN THE DOWNTOWN OR THE MOVIE THEATER ANYWHERE IN TOWN WAS SOMETIMES A HANGOUT AND A PLACE, A FAVORITE PLACE. YOU KNOW, I, I PUT UP THE CIRCA 1980S. THE 90 FOOT LEVEL HOME THAT THAT'S THERE PRETTY POPULAR HOMES ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. DURING THAT TIME FRAME AND I PUT OUR TYPICAL SINGLE STORY HOME THAT'S BUILT IN TEXAS THAT YOU SEE THERE. AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TAKE ALL OF THOSE GOOD THINGS THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WE LIVED IN AND GREW UP IN, AND WE WANT TO TAKE THE VISION THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS HAD AND APPLY THAT TO YOUR DECISION MAKING AS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE. AND HOW DO WE GET THAT STARTED? WE GET THAT STARTED BY FIRST KNOWING OUR LAWS. AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE LAWS HERE, IN THIS INSTANCE, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MAINLY THE STATE LAW THAT THE ENABLING LAWS THAT ALLOW CITIES TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND TO CONTROL OUR GROWTH TO TO DEVELOP HOW WE WANT TO DEVELOP IN THAT. NOW, WE KNOW THAT HAS BEEN SEVERELY HAMPERED OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WITH THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES AND ADOPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, HAVE REALLY MADE IT DIFFICULT ON US BECAUSE THINGS HAVE BEEN WHITTLED AWAY FROM LOCAL CONTROL. AND AND SO BUT WE DO NEED TO KNOW THOSE THINGS, AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS. AND OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP YOU UP TO SPEED ON THOSE. YOU ALSO NEED TO KNOW YOUR PLAN. AND THAT PLAN IS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED BY THE CITY. THAT THAT IS THE VISION THAT ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT TOOK THE TIME AND EFFORTS, [00:20:10] JUST LIKE PROBABLY MANY OF YOU PARTICIPATED IN THAT WHEN IT, WHEN IT HAPPENED. AND KNOW WHAT THAT PLAN IS. SO HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WHAT IT IS. THE OTHER THING IS WE NEED TO BE STAY ON TOP OF IT, BECAUSE LOOK HOW FAST THE CITY OF ANNA HAS GROWN OVER THE LAST 25-30 YEARS. THAT GROWTH IS IS VERY RAPID, WHICH MEANS THE OUR PLAN HAS TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT. IT HAS TO BE MOVING. IT HAS TO GROW WITH OUR GROWTH. AND BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, WITH GROWTH AND TIME, THINGS CHANGE. STYLES CHANGE. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE CLOTHES WE WEAR TO THE HOUSES WE BUILD THE FURNISHINGS THAT WE BUILD TO THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE BUILD, TO, THE PARKS THAT ARE BUILT, TO THE AMENITIES THAT ARE WANTED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE ALL CHANGING AND THOSE ARE, AND WE NEED TO REALLY KNOW WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS. AND SO WE GETTING TO KNOW OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S PART OF THE GREAT PART OF EACH OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES. YOU GUYS PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. AND WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO FREELY TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AS WE ADDRESS CERTAIN THINGS. AND IS YOU HAVE TOPICS COME BEFORE YOU. IT'S LIKE, OKAY, HOW CAN WE DO THAT BETTER NEXT TIME? YOU KNOW WHEN WE GET TO THE AGENDA ITEMS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE JUST HAD SOMETHING ON HERE THAT BROUGHT UP AN IDEA I HAD. CAN YOU GUYS LOOK AT THIS STAFF AND BRING THIS BACK TO US? LET'S TALK ABOUT IT FIVE, TEN MINUTES AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING WORTH PURSUING ANY FURTHER. WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW OUR RESOURCES. OUR RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE THE GREATEST PLAN IN THE WORLD, AND YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO DO THOSE THINGS. BUT IN REAL IN REAL LIFE SITUATIONS, WE HAVE LIMITATIONS ON THAT. THE CITY DOESN'T GROW MONEY. THERE'S NO SECRET VAULT UNDER THE CITY THAT HAS GOLD IN IT THAT THAT WE CAN BUILD ALL OF THESE THINGS. ALL OF THESE ARE BASED ON DIFFERENT LEVELS OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS WILLING TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN AND TAKE UP, AND WE NEED TO AVOID PITFALLS. NOT ALL THE DECISIONS YOU GUYS MAKE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE PERFECT DECISIONS EVERY SINGLE TIME. WE'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HINDSIGHT THAT'S LIKE, OH MAN, I WISH WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. OR I THINK WE COULD HAVE HAD A BETTER OUTCOME AND HAD MAYBE OUR REGULATIONS BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BECAUSE MAYBE THAT WOULD HAVE ENCOURAGED THE DEVELOPER OR PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BE A DIFFERENT QUALITY BE A DIFFERENT IN THE TOTAL OUTCOME. SO REALLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. SO IF YOU GUYS THINK AND I DON'T WANT TO BE TALKING TO YOU GUYS THE WHOLE TIME WITH THIS, I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS AS WE GO. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND FEEL FREE TO ASK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. BUT THIS IS, IN A NUTSHELL, SOME OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT YOU GUYS DO AS AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. AND I LEFT COPIES FOR IT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND LOOK AT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING LATER ON THAT WE WANT TO JUMP INTO AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU GUYS WERE CHOSEN IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY. YOU GUYS ARE MODELING THE ETHICAL CONDUCT AND TRANSPARENCY THAT THE CITY WANTS TO SEE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FINDINGS, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE DISCUSSIONS, TYPICALLY WE DON'T ASK YOU TO SAY STOP AND AND SAY, YOU KNOW, VICE CHAIR VOLLMER, I NEED YOU TO, YOU KNOW, TELL ME WHAT ALL THE FINDINGS EVERYONE JUST DID ON THE LAST VOTE, I WAS LIKE, OH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS. THE FINDINGS ARE BASED ON THAT DISCUSSION, THAT GOOD DISCUSSION, LIKE THE EXAMPLE WE JUST HAD COMMISSIONER LONGMIRE HAD SOME SOLID QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION. TALKED ABOUT IT. AND THEN WE PUT IT. YOU PUT IT TOGETHER INTO A COHERENT, ACTIONABLE ITEM TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT AS STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU THROUGH ALL OF THESE THINGS TO HELP THOSE THINGS. BUT THERE'S ALSO UPDATES. WE WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS REGULAR UPDATES, BUT THERE ALSO MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT WE JUST MAY NOT BE HONED IN ON AS STAFF. WHEN CITIES GET TO CERTAIN SIZES, WHEN YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT WORKS FOR YOU, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS GET TO STEP BACK A STEP OR TWO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUMP INTO THE CODE BOOK. YOU CAN LEAVE THAT TO THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. [00:25:05] AND THEN YOU USE YOUR JUDGMENT TO REVIEW WHAT STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE CODE, AND WHAT YOU FEEL IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED OFF OF THAT. AND THAT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION WHEN IT COMES TOGETHER LIKE THAT. AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT A SPLIT VOTE ON SOMETHING IS BAD. IT DOESN'T MEAN A UNANIMOUS VOTE IS BAD OR GOOD ON THAT. IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU ARE THOUGHTFULLY CONSIDERING EACH OF THOSE ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE YOU. THERE'S DIFFERENT ROLES THAT YOU GUYS EACH PLAY IN THAT THERE'S THAT YOU HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ROLE, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ZONING. YOU'RE A RECOMMENDING BODY ON THAT. EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH PLATTING AND THE SUBDIVISIONS AND KIND OF THE SITE PLANS ARE KIND OF MINISTERIAL, AND THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT THAT AS LONG AS THEY MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S REALLY YOU CAN'T REALLY SAY NO TO THEM. MATTER OF FACT, THE STATE HAS MADE IT PRETTY MUCH IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY NO TO IT. YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION BASED ON, DID THEY CHECK THE BOXES? DID THEY MEET THOSE? NEXT QUESTION IS, IS OUR BOXES AND THE CHECK BOXES RIGHT? DO WE HAVE IT RIGHT? DO WE NEED TO TWEAK THAT? DO WE NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. AND THOSE ARE ALL SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE TO YOU FROM TIME TO TIME. BUT I ASK YOU RIGHT NOW, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF RIGHT NOW THAT JUST AS WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION THAT JUST POPS IN YOUR HEAD, THAT YOU KNOW WHAT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THIS WORKS. OR MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? OKAY. I THINK JUST KEEPING US UPDATED ON ON LAW CHANGES. YOU BET. YOU KNOW, A QUICK IF YOU SEE SOMETHING HAPPENS, A QUICK EMAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHEN THE LAWS CHANGE THAT DRIVE HOW WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS. OKAY. WE DEFINITELY CAN DO THAT. THAT'S EXCELLENT IDEA. PLANNING AND ZONING. WE SEE THE MAPS AT THE TOP, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT EVERYONE SEES ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING. BUT I THINK ALL OF US CAN RELATE TO, ESPECIALLY YOU ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CAN RELATE TO THE THREE KIND OF COMICAL INSTANCES BELOW THAT REALLY AREN'T COMICAL. THEY'RE REAL, BUT THEY ARE REALLY PERCEPTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT ZONING AND ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND WHAT YOU MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON AND HOW THE HOW THE CITY IS GROWING. YOU KNOW, AND SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS WILL KIND OF WAY IN THERE. AND BRINGS US TO WHAT WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING? AND SO YOU KNOW, FIRST THAT PLANNING IS THE VISION OF THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS IN ESSENCE IS TALK ABOUT THE FIRST ITEM IS WHAT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? THAT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT IS THE VISION THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY. IN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, ZONING IS JUST, SIMPLY PUT, IS A SET OF REGULATIONS REGARDING HOW LAND USES HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED, PARTICULARLY TO THE CITY, AND THAT WILL HELP CARRY OUT THE VISION OF THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOESN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ON ITS OWN. IT CAN'T WITHOUT CHANGING THE ZONING REGULATIONS. SO WHEN WE ADOPT THAT, WE WILL KIND OF TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. AS FAR AS ARE WE, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE VISION WITHOUT MAKING SOME OF THESE CHANGES? HOW OR HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CAN REALLY JUMP INTO AS FAR AS WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE? THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE AND DONE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT TAKES A LOT OF THOUGHT. SOME OF THESE ISSUES CAN BE CONTENTIOUS. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE CONTENTIOUS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THESE ARE OUR RESIDENTS. THESE ARE OUR BUILDERS, OUR DEVELOPERS. WE WANT THIS TO BE. WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME VISION FOR ANNA. AND SO WITH THAT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF ALL THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS. BECAUSE WE GOT TO LOOK AT LONG TERM YOU KNOW, THE MORE ROADS YOU BUILD, THE MORE THE MORE BUILDINGS YOU BUILD, THE MORE HOUSES YOU BUILD, THE MORE SOCIAL SERVICES THAT YOU NEED, THE BIGGER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO GROW. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO GROW WITH THAT. THE PUBLIC WORKS, HOW WE MAINTAIN THOSE STREETS NEEDS TO GROW WITH THAT, PARKS NEEDS TO GROW WITH THAT. MAINTENANCE BECOMES A HUGE ISSUE IN SOME CITIES. THEY GET TO THE POINT THAT THEY FORGET ABOUT SOME OF THAT MAINTENANCE ISSUES, AND THEY GET A LOT OF GREAT STUFF, AND IT'S GREAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE UNTIL THEY REALIZE THEY THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COST. [00:30:06] WE GOT TO BE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AS THEY'RE COMING FORWARD AND GOING THROUGH THERE. NOW, A LOT OF THAT DOESN'T FALL ON YOUR PLATE AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER. THAT FALLS ON CITY COUNCIL AS THEY ARE THE WEIGHTIER WEIGH INS ON ON THOSE DECISIONS, AND AS WE TALK ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING, ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL, CAN'T CUT AND COPY. I CAN'T BRING WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN MISSOURI OR KANSAS OR OR WEATHERFORD AND BRING IT HERE AND SAY, OH, THIS WILL WORK HERE. IT COULD, IT MIGHT, BUT IT'S DOUBTFUL. IT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIC TO ANNA, AND IT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIC TO THE WAY WE WANT IT, THE WAY OUR RESIDENTS WANT IT. AND SO AS WE TALK ABOUT THOSE STATE LAW CHANGES AS THEY COME UP AND YOU GUYS STAY UP TO BEAT ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THESE ARE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS, HOW WILL THOSE REGULATIONS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE TO MODIFY TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT? AND ARE WE GETTING TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE ARE WE ABLE TO EVEN MEET OUR VISION IF IF, IF THESE ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUED TO BE WHITTLED AWAY BY THE LEGISLATURE ON THAT. SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THOSE AND, AND WATCH THOSE AND TAKE OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO PROTECT THOSE. AND THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IS SOMETIMES IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE REGULATIONS IN PLACE, ESPECIALLY WITH ZONING, IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE WHEN WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WANT. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO TO, TO PREVENT IT OR GET THAT TO THE WAY THAT WE WANT IT, AT THAT POINT IT'S TOO LATE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COME BACK AND CHANGE REGULATIONS TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN. IT'S JUST THAT BECOMES A VERY BIG LEGAL ISSUE. AND WE WON'T JUMP INTO THE LEGAL SIDE OF THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHERE DOES THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS COME IN ON ALL OF THIS? WHERE DOES THE SITE WHAT ABOUT SITE PLANS? AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE SPECIFIC OR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS? HOW DO WE TALK ABOUT THOSE IN THE BIG PICTURE OF THINGS? THERE'S DANGERS IN SOME OF THOSE. AND WE AS PROFESSIONAL STAFF WILL ALWAYS TRY TO BRING TO YOU THOSE, THOSE SPECIFIC OR CONDITIONAL USES AS THEY COME UP THAT WE REALLY WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON. SOME OF THOSE ARE CARRYOVERS FROM YEARS PAST. IT'S INTERESTING THAT IN THE OVER 25 YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, BILLIARD HALLS USED TO BE VERY ONE OF THOSE. OH, TERRIBLE. DON'T WANT THEM IN OUR TOWN. AND THEN IT COMES IN A FULL CIRCLE AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WE WANT THEM IN OUR DOWNTOWN. IT'S A FUN ACTIVITY. IT'S A FUN THING. AND THEN IT COMES BACK INTO FAVOR AND THEN IT FALLS OUT OF FAVOR. AND IN MY CAREER, BILLIARDS HALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT HAVE COME IN AND OUT AT LEAST THREE TIMES IN 25 YEARS. AND SAME WITH WITH TAVERNS OR, OR NIGHTLIFE, THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT IN THEIR DOWNTOWNS TO KEEP THEIR DOWNTOWNS LIVELY. IT COMES IT'S VERY CYCLICAL. IT GOES. IT GOES ALL WE WANT. THE NIGHTLIFE. AND THEN THE NIGHTLIFE COMES IN. AND MAYBE IT WASN'T WHAT THE NIGHTLIFE WE WANTED. AND NOW IT FALLS OUT OF FAVOR AND WE COME BACK AROUND AND THESE ALL THESE CIRCLES. AND SO WE'RE HERE TO HELP. HELP YOU REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. AND WE WANT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE ARE THOSE REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT ANYMORE? DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THOSE THOSE USES. YOU KNOW, WE THINK ABOUT WHETHER IT'S, IT'S DAYCARES, CONVENIENCE STORES, STORAGE UNITS ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT USES THAT YOU MAY CONSIDER. IT'S LIKE. YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CONTROL THOSE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S A LEGITIMATE REASON TO WATCH AND PUT SOMETHING ON AS A CONDITIONAL USE OR SPECIFIC USE. OTHERS MAYBE NOT SO MUCH ANYMORE. MAYBE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. SO WE WANT THAT WE NEED THAT INPUT FROM YOU AS YOUR PLANNING STAFF IS WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS? DO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE? WE'LL BRING THOSE LISTS TO YOU AND WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THOSE AND SAY, HEY, MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, GET THE PUBLIC INPUT. SEE WHAT WHAT IS A A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT. SO WOULDN'T YOU BE THINKING ABOUT THAT? I'M HOPING SOME OF THESE TOPICS ARE JUST GETTING STARTED, WILL JUST KIND OF HELP GET YOU GUYS GOING ON ON SOME OF THOSE, [00:35:03] BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE BRAND NEW ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR HAVE HAVE BEEN ON SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. SO AND SOME OF YOU HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE AND YOU'VE BEEN HERE A LITTLE LONGER AND YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO WE WANT TO PUT THOSE ALL TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT. DOES IT GET CONFUSING? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK SOMETIMES PLANNING AND ZONING YOU KNOW, AS STAFF, IF WE DON'T LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE DON'T WATCH IT CLOSELY, IT CAN BE VERY, VERY CONFUSING. AND ONE THING THAT DRIVES ME NUTS IS THE FACT THAT IT BECOMES SO LABOR INTENSIVE JUST TO UNDERSTAND AND READ THE REGULATIONS. AND IT SHOULDN'T BE. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY GOAL IS TO MAKE THINGS SIMPLE. IF YOU, AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT, OR PICK UP THE ZONING REGULATIONS AND GO THROUGH IT AND SIMPLIFY IT FOR THE END USER, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR BUILDERS, OUR DEVELOPERS TO MAKE IT SUPER SIMPLE. AND THIS NEEDS TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND GET TO THE POINT OF WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO, WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, AND WHAT OUR END RESULTS THAT WE WANT THEM TO BE. AND REALLY, THAT'S IN THE ZONING. THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE TO HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE HOPPED INTO A ZONING REGULATIONS OR ANY OTHER REGULATIONS FOR THAT MATTER, AND READ PARAGRAPH AND IT SENDS YOU TO ANOTHER PARAGRAPH IN ANOTHER CHAPTER, AND THAT CHAPTER SENDS YOU TO TWO OTHER CHAPTERS, AND YOU'RE NODDING YOUR HEAD THERE, ANY EXPERIENCE YOU GUYS WANT TO SHARE WITH THAT? YEAH, I'LL SAY NOT NOT PARTICULARLY HERE, BUT IN THE PAST I DO REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND I WAS LOOKING AT PARKING CODES AND IT SAID, OKAY, WE'LL SEE THIS TABLE AND THEN THAT TABLES, WE'LL SEE THIS SECTION OVER HERE ABOUT THE SETBACKS. AND IF IT'S THIS, IT'S ONE THING. AND YEAH, I WAS JUMPING ALL AROUND THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND JUST CALLED THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS SAYS. [LAUGHS] THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE FRUSTRATION WITH DEVELOPERS AND PUBLIC WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY READ THOSE REGULATIONS AND IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? WHAT IS OUR WHAT'S OUR END GOAL ON THIS? I HAD TO GO THROUGH SEVEN CHAPTERS AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND. I HAD TO CALL STAFF TO GIVE ME AN INTERPRETATION ON WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO TO CHANGE. IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT TO DO THAT. AND WE DON'T NEED TO GET LOST ON OUR WAY FOR SURE. SO I WANTED YOU KNOW, THE STARTING POINT ALWAYS IS GOING TO BE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND AND WE HAVE THE, ANNA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS UPDATED IN MARCH OF 2025. LIKE I SAID, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOULD BE A LIVING DOCUMENT. THERE SHOULD BE A CONFERENCE PLAN IS THE VISION OF THE COMMUNITY OR LONG RANGE POLICY GUIDE THAT DESCRIBES WHERE THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO GO AND OUTLINES THE LAND USE MAP POLICIES AND ACTIONS THAT NEED TO GET US THERE. I ALSO PUT THE CHAPTERS IN HERE BECAUSE I'M BIG ON REFERENCES, AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON. WE AS STAFF WILL DO BETTER ON AND HELPING IS IS I'M GOING TO TRY TO GIVE YOU GUYS REFERENCES EVERY TIME I REFERENCE SOMETHING SO THAT IF YOU GUYS WANT TO LOOK IT UP AND WE WANT YOU TO LOOK IT UP AND CONFIRM WHAT WE'RE CONFIRMING ALREADY TO YOU THAT THIS IS CHAPTER 213 AND CHAPTER 211 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. DOES THE CITY HAVE TO ADOPT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? NO. CITIES DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT WITHOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD FOR US TO ADOPT ZONING REGULATIONS TO TO DO ANY TO REGULATE WHAT EXACTLY WE WANT IT TO BECOME. AND SO WITHOUT HAVING THAT LONG RANGE VISION OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO, IT REALLY MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO MAKE ZONING REGULATIONS, BECAUSE WHAT THEN ARE WE BASING OUR REGULATIONS ON? THE MOMENT THAT THE SITUATION THAT MAY EXIST THERE. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO REALLY FOCUS IN ON IS, IS IS WE IT'S NOT REQUIRED. BUT CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE IT, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT WISE NOT TO HAVE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HOW LONG IT IS, HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO READ THE CONTENT OF IT, WHAT POLICIES ARE INCLUDED, WHAT ACTIONS NEED TO BE IN. THERE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THAT WE NEED TO TO REALLY LOOK AT WITH THAT. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, DOES NOT DO ANYTHING ON ITS OWN. IT CAN'T. IT'S JUST A GUIDE FOR US. AND AS A GUIDE, THERE MAY BE TIMES WHERE YOU MAY BE GETTING A RECOMMENDATION FOR A ZONING CHANGE [00:40:10] THAT COMES WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THAT'S OKAY, TOO. BUT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION YOUR STRONGEST POWER AND AUTHORITY THAT YOU HAVE. AND THIS WE HAVE IS A CITY IS IN THE ZONING, OUR POLICING POWER. WHEN YOU GIVE THAT AWAY, THEN THEN AT THAT POINT YOU'RE AT THE WHIM OF EVERY USE THAT'S ALLOWED TO BE IN THAT THAT DISTRICT AND EVERY USE INTO THE FUTURE. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT ADOPTING ZONING REGULATIONS AND ZONING DISTRICTS. WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE ONE THING YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY ALL NOTICED, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. WELL PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS HAVE A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD WITH THEM. THEY'RE GREAT TO HELP ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY BOTH WANT AND AN END RESULT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF NOW WE'VE ALSO CREATED A A BACKSIDE PROBLEM, A MAINTENANCE PROBLEM, BECAUSE HOW DO WE GO ENFORCE ALL THOSE REGULATIONS IN THE FUTURE IF WE'VE CREATED NOW HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE THERE. SO THE QUESTION IS, IS LET'S LOOK BACK AT ALL OUR OR PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS AND SEE WHAT THE COMMONALITIES ARE, WHAT ARE THE COMMON THINGS THAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE SEEING THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE IT WORK. AND LET'S JUST MAKE THOSE CHANGES. AND MAYBE THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE AND THEN KEEP OUR ZONING DISTRICTS INTO A SIMPLE ZONING DISTRICT. SO THAT IT'S EASY FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE TO BECAUSE AT THAT POINT YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY A BARRIER, AND THAT WAS WITH THAT. SO WE WANT TO WE WANT TO REFERENCE THOSE PLANS AS OFTEN AS WE CAN. I THINK WE I'VE GOT ONE OF THE BEST STAFFS HERE. THEY DO A GREAT JOB IN REFERENCING THE PLAN AND APPLYING HOW WE USE IT THERE ARE ACTIONABLE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THERE THAT WE WE NEED TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU. SOME OF THEM ARE THINGS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SOME OF THEM ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS RESPONSIBILITIES ON THOSE. SO EACH OF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE JUST REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND AND WANT YOU GUYS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO TO RECOMMEND CHANGES WITH THAT PLAN. AND WITH THAT, A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO GIVE ONE MORE LAST CHANCE FOR SOME QUESTIONS. OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR TRAINING TO ANOTHER MEETING. AND I WON'T WON'T KEEP YOU GUYS ANY LONGER WITH THAT. ANY QUESTIONS. SO I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS AND YOU REFERRED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS A GUIDE, BUT HERE IT SAYS CHAPTER 211 REQUIRES YOU. SO THE TERM GUIDE AND REQUIRE AREN'T SYNONYMOUS TO ME. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHAPTER 211. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE THE STATE LAW HAS A CONFLICT IN IT, BECAUSE CHAPTER 213 IS THE ADOPTION SECTION OF ADOPTING REGULATIONS. CHAPTER 211 HAS TO DO WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS WHEN YOU ADOPT THE ZONING. IT SAYS THAT YOU SHOULD ADOPT OR REQUIRES YOU TO ADOPT REGULATIONS. HOWEVER, STATE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE IT IN THE CHAPTER 213. IT'S NOT REQUIRED. SO 213 ALLOWS YOU TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DOESN'T REQUIRE IT. 213 ALLOWS YOU BUT DOES NOT REQUIRE IT. OKAY, BUT 211 TO ADOPT. THE WAY I READ IT SAYS IF YOU HAVE ONE YOU SHOULD YOU REQUIRE TO. REQUIRE TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT PLAN. IT'S IT'S REQUIRED TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLAN. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ADOPTED PLAN. OKAY. SUPERSEDES THE OTHER. LIKE WHICH ONE IS THE. THAT'S THE CONFUSING PART. YEAH. SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO YOU HAVE THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE BIG OVERVIEW OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE. SO IT GIVES YOU THE FUTURE LAND USES. EXAMPLE. TODAY'S WAS AN ANNEXATION DISCUSSION ABOUT ANNEXING IN A PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND WHAT DO YOU ZONE IT WHEN IT COMES IN? WELL, AS SOON AS THAT PROPERTY COMES IN INTO THE CITY, THEN IT FALLS UNDER THE AUSPICE AND THE UMBRELLA OF THE GENERAL PLAN OR THE MASTER PLAN. AND OUR TERMINOLOGY, MASTER, GENERAL AND COMPREHENSIVE ARE ALL THE SAME AND UNIVERSALLY USED ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS. [00:45:09] EVERYWHERE ELSE, IT'S JUST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT THAT THAT IS THE THE GUIDE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO REZONE IT. SO IF IT WERE TO SAY THAT THAT WAS RESIDENTIAL AND THERE WERE WANTED TO BRING IN ANNEX A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND GO COMMERCIAL, YOU COULD SAY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL ONLY AND RESIDENTIAL USES ONLY. THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE. YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO REZONE. SO I THINK THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP IS PRIOR TO YOU COMING HERE, YOU WILL NOT. WE HAVE SEEN A LOT. LET ME REPHRASE THIS. THE PREVIOUS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE SAW A LOT OF ZONING BE APPROVED THAT DID NOT FIT THAT PLAN. THE BIG ONE IS LIBERTY HILLS. IT WAS ALL LARGE LOT. AND NOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE 40 FOOT HOMES ON IT. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY STRUGGLE IS WE HAD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SAID THIS WAS GOING TO BE A CERTAIN ZONE, AND THEN WE APPROVED SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T MEET THAT PLAN. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THE QUESTION MAKES SENSE. YES. AND THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THAT. I MY HOPES WOULD BE, IS THAT AS LONG AS THOSE CAME WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHEN THEY'RE DONE AND YOU'RE TAKING ACTION ON AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING AT THE ADOPTION OF THE ZONING. AND YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING CONCURRENTLY. ANNEXATION. COMP PLAN, ZONING, ALL OF THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IS THAT YOU WOULD FOLLOW THAT ORDER AND THAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IF YOU'RE DOING. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT HAPPENED OR NOT. I DON'T, I DON'T. MY BELIEF IS IT DID NOT THEY DID NOT AGREE WITH MY ORDER OF OPERATIONS OF DOING THAT, BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS PUT TOGETHER WITH THE INPUT OF THIS PANEL, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY. ABSOLUTELY. SO JUST TO FOR TWO THIRDS OF THAT, TO CHANGE IT WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT. AGAIN, THAT KIND OF GOES AGAINST LOGIC TO ME, RIGHT? IT'S IT'S IT MAY BE ILLOGICAL, BUT THERE, THERE IS, THERE'S ACTUALLY OTHER PARTS AND PIECES THAT FLOAT AROUND THIS WORLD OF THIS. AND THAT'S THE AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL COUNT ON YOU GUYS TO KEEP IT HONEST, RIGHT. YEAH. JUST I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AS A CHALLENGE. I THINK FOR ME AT LEAST. AND I THINK THE REST OF THIS PANEL TOO, AND MANY TIMES. SO KNOW THAT THAT IS A GREAT OBSERVATION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE POLITICS INVOLVED WITH EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S NOT YOUR PREROGATIVE AT THIS LEVEL. THAT'S THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE ON THAT. BUT YOUR LEVEL, YOUR REVIEW OF THAT SHOULD BE STRICTLY AS DOES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NEED TO BE AMENDED WITH THIS REQUEST. AND IF SO, THEN LET'S HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND GIVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO COME. AND AND SO YOU GUYS CAN HEAR IT BECAUSE MAYBE SOMETHING HAS CHANGED. MAYBE YOU HAVE A RESIDENT SHOW UP OR SEND LETTERS OR OF SUPPORT COMING IN SAYING, YEAH, I THINK THIS IS A BETTER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO OR A YEAR AGO WHEN WE DID THAT. BUT THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND DETERMINE WHETHER IT IS OR NOT THE BEST, BEST CHOICE FOR THAT. AS FAR AS MOVING ON, WHAT WHAT WHAT HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE OTHER? IN THAT SAME EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU'RE ANNEXING SOMETHING IN, IT FALLS UNDER THAT UMBRELLA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEY CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THAT. THAT, THAT THEY HAVE TO THEN MEET THAT REQUIREMENT OR REQUEST TO AMEND IT. IF, LET'S SAY THAT PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED, LET'S SAY IT'S ALREADY IN THE CITY LIMITS, IT'S ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL. BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGED THAT TO LET'S SAY A DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL OR AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT OR ANY OTHER TOTALLY DIFFERENT USE. THE WAY IT IS ZONED IS THE WAY THAT IT CAN AND IS LEGALLY ABLE TO BE USED UNTIL THEY MAKE A MODIFICATION OR CHANGE TO IT, OR REQUEST TO CHANGE THE SITE PLAN. IF IT'S COMMERCIAL AND THEY'RE GOING TO INDUSTRIAL, THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT SITE PLAN. THAT WOULD BE THE THE CATCH THAT THEN REQUIRES IT TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OR TO CONSIDER REZONING TO, TO THE OTHER. BUT IF THEY'RE CONTINUING TO USE IT AS A LEGAL USE THAT'S WITHIN THAT THAT AREA, THEY CAN. [00:50:01] AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE THE GENERAL PLAN SAYS OTHERWISE, IF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE AND THEY HAVE THAT ZONING AND THEY'RE LEGALLY OPERATING UNDER THE USES THAT ARE WITHIN THE ZONING REGULATIONS, THEY'RE PERFECTLY LEGAL TO DO THAT. SO IT DOES GET CONFUSING. IT'S LIKE I SAY, SOMETIMES YOU GO BACK TO THOSE SIGNS, IT'S LIKE, OH, THAT'S KIND OF CONFUSING. IT'S LIKE IF IT'S UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR IS IT NOT UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND AND SO WE'LL, THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. AND SO CAN I JUMP IN FOR A SECOND? I WANTED TO TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER LONGMIRE'S COMMENT OR QUESTION ABOUT THE MISMATCH SOMETIMES BETWEEN THE ZONING CASES THAT COME BEFORE YOU OR PRIOR ZONING CASES BEING APPROVED AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAN BE DRAFTED IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS, AND SOMETIMES THE SAME CITY WILL WILL ADOPT DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF DIFFERENT PLANS AT DIFFERENT TIMES. YOU HAVE TO DO THEM, REDO THEM EVERY SO OFTEN, SOMETIMES USE THE SAME VENDOR. SOMETIMES YOU GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND GET ONE WITH A DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL. COMP PLANS WILL OFTEN BE DIFFERENT THAN ZONING MAPS, AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER OF CATEGORIES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A COLOR ON THE MAP ON THE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR A NECESSARILY EVERY ZONING CLASS YOU HAVE IN YOUR CITY OR AND LOTS OF TIMES THEY'LL BE SIMPLIFIED VERSIONS. SO IT MIGHT JUST SAY RURAL AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE AG. IT WOULD INCLUDE LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL WOULD INCLUDE MULTIPLE ZONING CATEGORIES IN ONE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY OR COMP PLAN COLORED MAP CATEGORY. THAT THEN MAKES IT FEEL A BIT LIKE A DISCONNECT WHEN THE LOT NEXT DOOR IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND THIS ONE'S NOW A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING. WELL, THE COLOR OF THE ZONING ON THE COMP PLAN MAY HAVE BEEN EACH INDIVIDUAL PARCEL INSIDE THIS LARGER COLORED ZONE ON THE COMP PLAN CAN BE ONE OF 3 OR 4. THERE MIGHT BE A LIMITED MENU OF ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE RATHER THAN WELL, IT'S BLUE ON THIS MAP, SO EVERY TIME WE ZONE IN THIS THING, IT HAS TO BE THIS ONE ZONING DISTRICT. SO SOMETIMES THAT MAY BE THE SOURCE OF WHY YOU'RE SEEING. OR IT MAY LOOK LIKE THAT THERE'S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE COMP PLAN AND THE ZONING ACTION THAT THE THAT THE BOARD TOOK. HOPEFULLY IT'S IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT MORE THAN IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S JUST FLAT OUT INCONSISTENT WITH IT. BUT ALSO TO RETURN TO ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHICH ONE WINS IF THE COMP PLAN IS IN CONFLICT WITH THE ZONING. HEY, WAIT, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS, BUT WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO. REALLY, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IF YOU'VE GOT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CITY OF ANNA DOES, AND I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE ANYTIME SOON, YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T CONTRADICT IT WITH YOUR ZONING. YOU CAN'T ADOPT ZONING REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN WITH THE COMP PLAN SAYS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. SO IF IT'S SILENT ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO COLOR IN SOME OF THE OUTSIDE THE BLANKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND COLOR IN THE MARGINS. BUT IF IT SAYS THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE, YOU CAN'T ZONE IT THAT WAY. SO YOU USE THE TERM REGULATIONS. DOES THAT. BUT ARE YOU DEFINING THE ZONING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS REGULATION WHEN YOU SAY THAT? WELL, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOESN'T ACTUALLY DO THE REGULATING. IT DOESN'T CONSIST OF RULES. IT'S JUST A PLANNING VISION AND A MAP AND A KIND OF SET OF OBJECTIVES THAT ALL THE OTHER THINGS, THE ACTUAL REGULATIONS ARE ALL INTENDED TO SERVE. SO WHEN YOU ADOPT ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AND THE REGULATIONS THAT CONTROL WHAT ACTIVITIES GO ON INSIDE THOSE DISTRICTS THROUGH ZONING ORDINANCES, THEY HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONTENTS OF AN ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, ONE THING THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT WITH WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, IS THERE'S AN EXPECTATIONS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, WITH COLOR CODING YELLOWS, RESIDENTIAL ORANGE, MULTIFAMILY, BROWN, MULTIFAMILY. YOU KNOW, BLUE IS AND PURPLE IS YOUR REDS ARE YOUR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES. IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU WILL SEE THAT OUR SUBURBAN. WHAT'S THE TOTAL TITLE ON THAT SUBURBAN LIVING? SUBURBAN LIVING INCLUDES COMMERCIAL USES IN IT, WHICH IS EVERY EVERY CITY GETS TO DECIDE WHAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. BUT THAT DISTRICT THAT THAT LAND USE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN SAYS WE'RE OKAY WITH ANY OF THESE LAND USES POTENTIAL IN THERE, WHICH BASICALLY GIVES A VERY WIDE VARIETY. SO DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE LOCATED, JUST JUST AS COUNCIL HAS SAID, IS YOU MAY RUN INTO THAT. [00:55:04] IT DOES ALLOW A WIDE VARIETY OF ZONING. BUT THAT'S HOW YOU ADOPT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, IS YOU CAN NARROW THAT FIELD, YOU CAN MAKE IT BROAD, YOU CAN MAKE IT ANY WAY YOU WANT IT FOR FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. SO SUBURBAN LIVING, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME PARK AND OPEN SPACES. NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING AMENITIES. IS THAT YOUR CATCH ALL FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING? I BELIEVE THERE'S A DEFINITION FOR THAT. THAT THAT'S THAT'S. YEP. THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IN THE LATEST PLAN. SO I BELIEVE THERE'S A DEFINITION IN OUR REGULATIONS THAT EXPLAINS THAT. THAT'S SOME OF THOSE COMMERCIAL USES IN THE C-1 I BELIEVE IS WHAT THAT INCLUDES. THAT'S WHERE IT GETS CONFUSING. IT IS VERY CONFUSING. BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO HELP DO THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS A GREAT POINT TO BRING UP BECAUSE WE CAN FIX SOME OF THESE THINGS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND MAKE THE FUTURE BETTER AND EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND BY JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE THINGS AND SAYING, HEY, CAN WE DO THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY? MAYBE THIS WOULD HELP SITUATIONS A LITTLE BIT. GO A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER ON THAT. AND SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THE OTHER PART I WANTED TO ADD TO IT THAT OUR COUNCIL GAVE US ADVICE ON, ON THAT, ON THAT IS IS ONE THING ALSO IS HOW YOU ADOPT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO ADOPT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND IT AND IT ALSO GIVES WEIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR ADOPTING REGULATIONS AND MAKES IT SOMETIMES MORE FLEXIBLE TO FOLLOW OR NOT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. AND SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT. GREAT QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GIVING ME THE TIME TO TO RUN THROUGH THIS. AND LIKE I SAID, IF YOU GUYS ANYTHING POPS IN THE HEAD THIS IS LATER ON, SHOOT ME AN EMAIL AND I WILL WE'LL ALSO KEEP ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS IN MIND THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND BRING THOSE THINGS UP BACK UP TO YOU. SO THANK YOU. ONE ONE LAST THING. TO COMMENT, COMMISSIONER LONGMIRE MADE, I THINK, AS A COMMITTEE OR GROUP. WE'VE WE'VE KIND OF MADE OUR WAY BACK OF WANTING TO GO WITH THE COMP PLAN AND GET MORE TO IT AND MORE FAMILIARITY WITH IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. I KNOW OPEN MEETINGS ACT. WE CREATE MY OWN. BUT IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF LIKE PRINT OUT WE COULD HAVE THAT HAD THE COMP PLAN IN FRONT OF US AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS. AND THEN ALSO A LIST OF LIKE WHAT TYPICALLY FALLS INTO C-1, C-2 RESIDENTIAL SO THAT WE HAVE IT ALL. AND AS PEOPLE ARE ASKING US TO MAKE MOVES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, LIKE IT'S JUST HERE AND HANDY. SO I KNOW IF I MAKE MY OWN, I PROBABLY HAVE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY EVERY TIME FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO SEE IT. BUT IF THE CITY COULD CREATE SOMETHING FOR US. ABSOLUTELY. JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER. YEAH. AND I WAS LOOKING ON THE WEBSITE EARLIER FOR THE DEFINITION OF C-1, AND I'M SURE IT'S THERE. I JUST DIDN'T FIND IT. OKAY. WELL WE WILL WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. AND MATTER OF FACT, YOU GUYS ARE VERY LUCKY BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EXTREMELY TALENTED STAFF. AND I HAPPEN TO KNOW LAUREN IS IS HAS, HER BACKGROUND IS IN LONG RANGE PLANNING, AND I MAY HAVE HER COME UP AND GIVE SOME TRAINING SPECIFICALLY ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WE CAN JUMP INTO THAT. AND IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT, WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU THANK YOU. MOVING ON. NUMBER NINE, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. AT THIS TIME PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MAY IDENTIFY ISSUES OR TOPICS THEY WISH TO SCHEDULE FOR DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE MEETING. [9. Future Agenda Items] ANYTHING FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NO, NO. JUST THE THOUGHT OF LOOKING AT OUR CALENDARS FOR MOVING TO THE SECOND THURSDAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. GET BACK TO THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. NOTHING ELSE. MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT ONE. RIGHT? YEP. WE'RE ADJOURNED. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:59. 06:59. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.