Oct 14, 2025 City Council Meeting

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>> THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANNA,

[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN OPEN SESSION AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT THE OPEN SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM AND TURN IT INTO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE WE GET GOING.

RIGHT NOW, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL US TO ORDER.

FOR THE RECORD, THE ENTIRE COUNCIL IS HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM. THIS TIME, I WANT TO ASK COUNCILMAN KARTHY IF YOU'LL LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL JOIN ME IN A WORD OF PRAYER. LORD, WE COME TO YOU.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE IN THIS GREAT CITY, IN THIS GREAT STATE, IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY.

I PRAY THAT YOUR BLESSINGS CONTINUE TO BE UPON US.

HELP THOSE IN ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT WORK OUT THEIR DIFFICULTIES, DIFFERENCES, AND, FRANKLY, FOR OUR BETTER GOOD.

I PRAY TONIGHT WE DO THE SAME FOR OUR OWN CITIZENS AS WE CONVENE OUR CITY COUNCIL.

BE OVER OUR CITY, AND OUR POLICE, AND FIRE, AND ALL THOSE WHO WATCH OVER US IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

OF ALLEGIANCE],

>> THAT'LL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH IS NEIGHBOR COMMENTS.

[3. Neighbor Comments.]

ALSO, AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE MEETING AGENDA.

EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A CITIZEN'S INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.

I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD, MR. KEVIN DOHERTY.

>> [APPLAUSE] HI, EVERYBODY. [LAUGHTER] I WROTE THIS DOWN JUST IN CASE I GET EMOTIONAL.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KEVIN DOHERTY. THIS IS MY WIFE, TERRY.

WE ARE THE OWNERS OF COUNTRY CHARM COFFEE AT 628 WEST WHITE STREET.

TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO GIVE THANKS TO THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY CALLED ANNA.

ON AUGUST 4TH, AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, I WAS ASSAULTED BY AN UNPERMITTED SOLICITOR.

I RECEIVED INJURIES THAT REQUIRED SURGERY AND LOSS OF WORK.

IMMEDIATELY, THIS COMMUNITY JUMPED INTO ACTION AND OFFERED UP ANYTHING THEY COULD DO TO ENSURE WE COULD BE SUCCESSFUL THROUGHOUT THIS ORDEAL.

THIS COMMUNITY RAISED MONEY FOR US.

THEY OFFERED WORDS OF AFFIRMATION, WISHES THAT WE WOULD GET WELL SOON AND ACTS OF KINDNESS THAT WE CAN ONLY DESCRIBE AS OVERWHELMING.

ON THE NIGHT THAT I WAS ATTACKED, I REALLY WANTED TO JUST GIVE UP AND QUIT THE COFFEE SHOP.

I WANTED TO SELL IT, AND JUST DISAPPEAR.

BUT WITHIN 24 HOURS, THE COMMUNITY RALLIED AND BEGAN SHOWING TO US THE LOVE THAT WE HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE.

TERRY AND I HAVE RECEIVED SO MANY TEXT MESSAGES FROM SO MANY PEOPLE THAT REACHED OUT AND ASKED HOW THEY COULD HELP.

AT FIRST, WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ACCEPT THE HELP, BUT AS TIME PASSED, I REALIZED THAT THIS WAS THE COMMUNITY'S WAY OF SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER.

WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF ANNA, BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND THE FOLKS THAT WORKED BEHIND THE SCENES.

PEOPLE LIKE KATE AND MIKE SWAFFORD, MANNY SINGH, KEVIN TOTEN, THE MISSION MEN OF ANNA, ANGIE TOLEZ, AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND OUR MAYOR PETE KANE.

WE ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE OUTSTANDING WORK OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WORKED SWIFTLY IN APPREHENDING THE ASSAILANT. THANK YOU, CHIEF HABLE.

WITHOUT THE KINDNESS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE GENEROSITY OF OUR COMPLETE STRANGERS, OUR COFFEE SHOP WOULD HAVE SUFFERED TREMENDOUSLY.

WE THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS, AND WE'RE SO PROUD TO HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED IN A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS EXISTED UNTIL THIS TRAGEDY HAPPENED TO US.

THANK YOU FOR SHINING A POSITIVE LIGHT ON A NEGATIVE ACT. DONE IT.

>> THANK YOU, KEVIN. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SURPRISE OR SHOCK AT THE RESPONSE OF THIS COMMUNITY.

WE DO IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND IT'S JUST WHO WE ARE, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE UP HERE,

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REPORTS. RECEIVE REPORTS FROM STAFF OR CITY COUNCIL ABOUT ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

[4. Reports]

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION THAT WAS IN THE PACKET, IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST READING THAT, AND THAT'S HOW I'LL RECOGNIZE THE DAY.

I HAVE A COPY RIGHT HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> RECOGNIZE IN OCTOBER 20 AND 21ST, OCTOBER 21, 2025 AS UNPLUG TEXAS DAY.

WHEREAS UNPLUGGED TEXAS DAY WAS CREATED BY THE TEXAS RECREATION AND PARK SOCIETY TRAPS, AND ADOPTED BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE THROUGH THE SENATE BILL 2232, AUTHORED BY SENATOR ADAM HINOJOSA, AND SPONSORED BY REPRESENTATIVE BEN BUMGARNER, AND WHEREAS UNPLUGGED TEXAS DAY ENCOURAGES NEIGHBORS TO DISCONNECT FROM DIGITAL DEVICES AND ENGAGE IN OUTDOOR PLAY, RECREATION, AND COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES OFFERED BY LOCAL PARKS AND RECREATION AGENCIES, AND WHEREAS ON AVERAGE, AMERICANS SPEND OVER SEVEN HOURS PER DAY IN FRONT OF SCREENS CONTRIBUTING TO A RISING RATES OF INACTIVITY, POOR MENTAL HEALTH, AND SLEEP DISRUPTION.

WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES SUCH AS TRAILS, OPEN SPACES, POOLS, AND RECREATION CENTERS PROVIDE SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE PLACES FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES TO UNPLUG, BE ACTIVE AND CONNECT WITH NATURE AND ONE ANOTHER.

WHEREAS, RESEARCH SHOWS THAT TIME SPENT OUTDOORS IMPROVES MENTAL CLARITY, REDUCES STRESS, INCREASES PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, AND FOSTERS STRONG COMMUNITY BONDS.

WHEREAS, THE CITY OF ANNA VALUES THE VITAL ROLE THAT PARKS AND RECREATION PLAYS IN ENHANCING QUALITY OF LIFE, HEALTH, AND COMMUNITY CONNECTION.

WHEREAS, THE CITY ENCOURAGES THE NEIGHBORS TO PARTICIPATE IN UNPLUG TEXAS DAY BY VISITING LOCAL PARKS, ENGAGING IN SCREEN FREE PLAY AND ENJOYING RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES WITH FAMILY, NEIGHBORS, AND FRIENDS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I PETE KANE, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANNA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 21, 2025, AS UNPLUGGED TEXAS DAY IN THE CITY OF ANNA AND ENCOURAGE ALL NEIGHBORS TO CELEBRATE BY UNPLUGGING FROM TECHNOLOGY AND PLUGGING INTO TEXAS ABUNDANT PARKS, TRAILS, AND RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES.

WITNESS THERE WHEREOF, I HERE TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF ANNA TO BE AFFIXED THIS 14TH DAY OF OCTOBER 2025.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, JEFF.

WORK SESSION,

[5. Work Session.]

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

WE HAVE PETER LAI FROM IMPRESSION HOMES HERE WITH US TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION ON WHAT I CALL THE HAGER RANCH.

YOU MAY RECALL THIS PROPERTY OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS OR SO, HAS HAD A FEW ZONING CASES.

PREVIOUSLY, A APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH TOWN HOMES AS WELL AS A WORK SESSION ON A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

TONIGHT THERE IN YOUR PACKET, THERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU DO NOT FEEL THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ASKING THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE HER WITH BETTER DIRECTION AS SHE HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY?

>> GOOD EVENING. HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS PETER LAI.

I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF ESTATE FOR IMPRESSION HOMES.

I'M HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT TO DISCUSS A PROJECT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE.

BEFORE WE SUBMIT THE FORMAL APPLICATION, WE WANTED TO DISCUSS OUR CONCEPT PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT AND GET SOME FEEDBACK INTERACTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE PROJECT, I WANT TO JUST GIVE A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL INTRODUCTION OF WHO WE ARE.

WE ARE A LOCAL HOME BUILDER HERE IN DALLAS, WAS FOUNDED BACK IN 2009.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 28 ACTIVE COMMUNITIES IN THIS METROPOLITAN.

OUR HOME PRICE RANGES FROM 300,000 ALL THE WAY TO 750,000 DOLLARS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN ANNUAL CLOSING ABOUT 600 HOMES.

OUR CLOSEST COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW IS IN MELISSA.

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IT'S CALLED TORCHIO UP IN NORTHERN AUSTIN.

THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE OUR CURRENT COMMUNITIES ARE LOCATED AT THE PREMISE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DALLAS FORT NORTH AREA.

THIS IS SOME OF THE HOMES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LIBRARY.

THIS WOULD BE HOMES THAT WE WILL PROPOSE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS IN A MINUTE.

THESE HOMES ARE GENERALLY 40 FOOT WIDE ON A 50 FOOT LOTS.

WE HAVE ONE STORY AND TWO STORIES.

THIS IS SOME OF THE INTERIOR FINISHES SHOWING THE HOMES THAT WE'RE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE TRACK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT JUST WEST OF HIGHWAY 5 THERE'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE ANNA'S TOWN SQUARE.

A LITTLE HISTORY ON THIS TRACK IS THAT WE HAD IT UNDER CONTRACTS SINCE LAST YEAR.

I HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION HERE, AND WE WERE UNDER THE PROMISE THAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP A 40 FOOT PRODUCT HERE SIMILAR TO OUR MELISSA PROJECT.

THAT'S WHEN THE TRACK WAS UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN AS THE PROFESSIONAL CAMPUS, WHICH IS LIKE OFFICE TYPE SETTING.

I UNDERSTAND THE CITY WENT THROUGH A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS EARLIER THIS YEAR TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THESE TWO TRACKS TO SUBURBAN LIVING, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS IN THIS TWO TRACKS.

BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE OF THE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY STAFF AND THE MANAGEMENT, WE HAVE REDUCED THE DENSITY FROM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED 40 FOOT PRODUCT TO THE COMBINATION OF 50 FOOT AND 60 FOOT PRODUCT.

WE LOST ABOUT 33 LOTS FROM THE ORIGINAL LAMP PLAN THAT WE HAD PERFORM.

BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE HERE TO SEEK SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY TO HELP CONTROL THE COST FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND WITH THE BENEFIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON HERE IS 53 LOTS.

THERE WILL BE 50 BY 120, THAT WOULD BE YOUR 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, AND ALSO WE ARE PROPOSING 49 60 BY 170, WHICH IS YOUR 7,200 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.

WE HAVE RESERVED THE DETENTION POND AREA ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROJECT.

ALSO, BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY, WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD OUT THE FINLEY ROAD TO CONNECT THIS TRACK TO HIGHWAY 5 TO PROVIDE A MUCH BETTER ACCESS AND ALSO A STREET CONNECTIVITY FOR THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S ONE THING THAT WE WOULD ALSO NEED SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY IS THAT TO PROVIDE TWO POINTS OF WATER CONNECTION, WE NEED TO HAVE AN EASEMENT TO CONNECT THE WATER LINE TO THE EXISTING WATER SYSTEM, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN ON THE LEFT SIDE, THERE'S A RED LINE OVER THERE.

THERE'S A WATER LINE IN EXISTING SUBDIVISION THAT WE HAVE TO CONNECT TO, BUT WE HAVE TO CROSS THAT LITTLE OPEN SPACE THAT'S OWNED BY THE HOA OF THE PECAN GROVE SUBDIVISION.

OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO WORK WITH THEM DILIGENTLY TO SECURE THE EASEMENT, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT THAT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY TO USE CITY'S INFLUENCE OR EMINENT DOMAIN TO OBTAIN THE EASEMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT.

NOW, THIS PROJECT IS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL PECAN GROVE, BUT NATURALLY IT JUST TIES TOGETHER ALONG WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS LODGE WILL BE LARGER THAN THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED.

AVERAGE SALES PRICE WILL BE 400,000 DOLLARS.

THE PROJECT SUMMARY, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS 102 LOTS, WITH ABOUT 50/50.

HALF OF IT IS LARGER THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR THIS TRACK.

WE'RE PROPOSING A 400,000 DOLLAR AVERAGE SALES PRICE.

OUR ENGINEER HAS DONE WHAT WE CALL THE OPC OPINION OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COST.

IT'S ABOUT 5.5 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S ABOUT THREE QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT

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SOME OF THE TERMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEEK SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY IS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE WE CAN GET A PIT SET UP FOR THIS PROJECT WITH A HALF PERCENT TAX LEVY ON THEIR PROPERTIES.

THIS WOULD HELP US CONTROL THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS TRACK HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS WITH DIFFERENT BUYERS LOOKING AT HOW TO DEVELOP IT.

WE BELIEVE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE THE MOST CONDUCIVE PLAN FOR THIS TRACK.

WITH OUR PROPOSAL TO BUILD A TWO LANE CONCRETE STREET CONNECTING FINLEY ROAD AND HIGHWAY 5 WOULD PROVIDE A MUCH NEEDED RELIEF OF TRAFFIC AND BETTER CONNECTIVITY FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

WITH THAT, WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY AND AND THE FINLEY ROAD EXTENSION WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEE REIMBURSEMENT.

WE WOULD ASK THAT WE WOULD WAIVE THE IMPACT FEE UP TO THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION COST.

ALSO, THE LAST ITEM HERE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEEK SOME ASSISTANCE ON IS THE EASEMENT.

WE HAVE TALKED TO THE HOA AND THEY HAVE GENERALLY DECLINED TO PROVIDE THE ACCESS TO THE WATER LINE THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY.

WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THE CITY IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US THAT WE ASK THE CITY TO HELP US SECURE THE EASEMENT.

WITH THAT, THAT'S JUST OUR QUICK PROPOSAL HERE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL.

LIKE I SAID, WE ARE A LOCAL BUILDER HERE.

WE LIKE THIS AREA.

WE HAVE GOOD SUCCESS IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BUILD HOMES IN THE CITY OF ANNA, AND WE'RE HERE TO SEEK HELP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT.

I'LL FIRST WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU AND APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS WERE FLEXIBLE.

YOU GUYS WENT BACK, REVISED YOUR PLANS.

YOU TOOK THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PREVIOUS COUNSELS AS WELL. IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED.

HOWEVER, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

TO START OFF WITH, IS THERE ANY RENTAL CAP AND THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT?

>> NO. WE DON'T HAVE ANY AGREEMENT AT THIS POINT.

>> OH, WE'RE NOT EVEN THERE YET? IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER? RENTAL CAP ON THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PROJECT?

>> YEAH. THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS BECAUSE OF THE NEW CHANGE OF THE LEADERSHIP AND ALSO STAFF, THAT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS GIVEN, AND WE HAVE THIS UNDER CONTRACT FOR OVER A YEAR NOW.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A PATH FORWARD.

FINANCIALLY, THE CHALLENGE HERE IS THAT THIS TRACK IS NOT BIG ENOUGH.

IT'S NOT A 300 ACRE WITH 2000 LOTS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY, TRADITIONAL DOWN TO EARTH DEVELOPMENT THAT WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING THE MUCH NEEDED HOUSING PRODUCT HERE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE WANTING TO LOOK AT THIS OPTION AND CONSIDER OUR APPLICATION AND A REQUEST FOR THE PID, WITHOUT A PID TO HELP US CONTROL THE DEVELOPMENT COST.

IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE FOR US RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY AGREEMENT OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CITY.

WE'RE HERE TO SEEK SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE COUNCIL AND TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT.

>> DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND. IF YOU COULD JUST AT SOME POINT, CONSIDER RENTAL CAPS, WHAT THAT MEANS MAYBE THAT GLAZED OVER IS THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOMES THAT COULD BE RENTED OUT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT.

JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

ALSO, NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PID.

HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY WE SHOULD SUBSIDIZE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NO DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER IN TOWN THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD TO SUBSIDIZE IN THE SAME WAY.

>> WE'LL LOOK AT THIS AS MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP.

I THINK SUBSIDIZING THIS IS NOT A LOW INCOME AREA OR HELP DEVELOPERS MAKE MORE MONEY.

I THINK FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE, ONE IS THAT AS YOU CAN SEE THE SOUTH SIDE OF FINLEY ROAD ARE LARGER THAN THE BY RIGHT LOT SIZE.

IN EXCHANGE, WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THAT THE CITY

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WE'RE ABLE TO PUT LARGE LOTS ON THE GROUND, WHICH I THINK THE CITY HAS GENERALLY WANTED TO SEE LARGER LOTS IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THE MARKET AND THE AFFORDABILITY OF TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT THAT IT'S NICE TO HAVE BIG HOMES, BUT IF THE CUSTOMERS CANNOT AFFORD IT, THAT'S A DILEMMA THAT AS A BUILDER AND DEVELOPER, WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS THAT WHAT THE CITY GET FROM HELPING US ON THE FINANCE SIDE IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE ALMOST 50% OF THE LOTS LARGER THAN WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS TRACK.

>> STILL COMES DOWN TO, RECENTLY WE'VE HAD TO RAISE TAXES SPECIFICALLY TO FUND A NEW POLICE STATION, WE WANT TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF ANY TYPE OF INCREASE OR BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S A BIT OF A STICKING POINT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE LOOKED AT OR CONSIDERED, BUT AT THIS POINT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS INSTEAD OF PUSHING A TAX RAISE ON THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS.

ANOTHER THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC HERE ON HIGHWAY FIVE.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS A BOTTLENECK.

A LOT OF THAT CONSTRUCTION ACCORDING TO TXDOT IS REALLY NOT GOING TO KICK OFF UNTIL CLOSE TO 2030.

NOW WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DOING IS AS WE CREATE THIS FINLEY ROAD THAT'S GOING TO GO UP TO FIVE, WE'RE CREATING A RELEASE VALVE, ALL FOR THAT TO COME INTO RESIDENTIAL ROADS THROUGH THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN IN THE FOSTER CROSSING ACROSS.

IN ONE SENSE, YES, IT'S NICE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF, BUT WE'RE ALSO PUTTING ALL OF THOSE VEHICLES INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

IF YOU COULD, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURES OF THE HOMES FROM THE FRONT?

>> YEAH.

>> PERFECT. WHAT FLEXIBILITY DO YOU HAVE ON DESIGN STANDARDS? NOW WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF CURB APPEAL.

NOW WHEN I LOOK AT THESE, IT'S ONE THING IF YOU'RE BRINGING A VERY NICE-LOOKING PRODUCT, VERY EASY TO LOOK AT, AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LOT FROM THE CITY.

BUT THIS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM A STANDARD STARLIGHT HOME OR A STANDARD HOME THAT'S ALREADY IN THE CITY.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT JUSTIFIES US MAKING AN EXCEPTION FOR THIS.

IT'S TECHNICALLY AN INFILL.

I WANT TO BE OPEN TO IT.

IT'S JUST A DIFFICULT CELL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PID.

I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES TO MAYBE ADD SOME OTHER POINTS.

IF I MAY ALSO ADD, COUNCILMAN TOTEN, YOU MAY HAVE SOME CONTEXT ON SOME OF THE WATER ISSUES THAT THE GENTLEMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT.

I MAY BE MISTAKEN, BUT IF THERE IS, COULD YOU PROVIDE?

>> YOU'RE ON THE HOA BOARD, AREN'T YOU?

>> YEAH, BUT I'M ASKING WAS THERE ANY QUESTION?

>> IT WOULD JUST BE THROUGH OUR HOA MANAGER.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE NEW PERSON IS.

THAT'S A SIMPLE FIX.

BECAUSE ALL THAT IS IS IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WHERE IT'S AT, IF YOU DRIVE OR DRIVE BACK THERE, IT'S A HILL THAT THE GRASS DON'T GROW.

THAT'S A SIMPLE FIX.

BUT STAND COUNCILMAN CARVER WANTED TO GO BEFORE ME.

>> GOOD THANKS.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING, COMING BACK, SOLICITING INPUT.

LAST TIME THAT WE MET, I DON'T THINK THIS BUILDING WAS READY FOR US YET.

THIS IS ON THE RIGHT PATH, BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOUSING PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE SHOWING.

FIVE YEARS AGO, THAT HOUSING PRODUCT WAS GETTING APPROVED.

TODAY, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN.

YOU'RE SEEKING A PID, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE WANT TO BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US.

HERE'S WHAT I THINK WOULD MAKE THIS WORK.

MOST OF THE HOUSING PRODUCT YOU SHOWED WAS 1,500 SQUARE FOOT HOMES.

ONE-STOREY ON A BIGGER LOT, I LIKE THAT YOU HAVE A BIGGER LOT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK WITH.

THE HOUSING PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN.

I AM INTERESTED IN YOUR OTHER PRODUCTS BECAUSE YOUR WEBSITE HAS SOME REALLY GREAT HOMES ON IT.

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THE LINCOLN, THE MAPLE, THE CHEYENNE, THE WILLOW, THAT'S GOOD LOOKING HOMES.

WITH OUR BUILDING STANDARDS HERE IN ANNA, I THINK THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE GREAT LOOKING HOMES.

I THINK I WROTE THIS CORRECTLY, THE MESQUITE AND COTTONWOOD TOWNHOMES.

THAT'S A GREAT LOOKING PRODUCT.

I WOULD PROPOSE THAT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PRODUCT, THE PROPERTY IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY, THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT BEING A TOWN HOME PRODUCT TO HELP PAY FOR ALL THIS BECAUSE THE NEXT REQUEST I HAVE, YOU'RE GOING TO NOT LIKE SO MUCH, BUT I'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU TOWNHOMES, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

THAT'S ZERO LOT LINES, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE A LOT MORE PRODUCT YOU CAN SELL.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOUR SYCAMORE, MAGNOLIA, AND CEDAR PRODUCTS.

YOU'VE GOT THE LOTS.

YOU'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO WORK THE SIZES, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE OF THE NICEST NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ANNA.

SOMETHING TO BE REALLY COMPLIMENTARY TO OUR ETJ AS WELL AS MANY OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S MY REQUEST.

WITH THAT, I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THE PID TO HELP MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING THROUGH THE FINLEY ROAD.

WHAT IS YOUR PLANS FOR COUNTY ROAD 423? I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. ARE YOU DOING IMPROVEMENTS OF 423?

>> NOT CURRENTLY. BECAUSE THE MOST OF THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BASICALLY CHANNEL THROUGH FINLEY ROAD.

THAT WILL BE KEPT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

>> IN OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, THAT WAS A CONVERSATION ALL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE WITH 423.

NOW, THIS ROAD IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THAT IS WITH THE COUNTY.

I'M OKAY IF WE DECOMMISSION MOST OF THAT ROAD BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT CONNECTS TO HIGHWAY FIVE.

BUT AS FAR AS ANNA IS CONCERNED, I'M HAPPY THAT ROAD.

COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REAL QUICK AND THEN I'M DONE.

THE HOA, WILL THIS HAVE AN HOA THAT RUNS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD?

>> YEAH. THIS IS OUR HOA.

>> I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME IT, BUT WHAT TYPE OF AMENITIES DO YOU SEE IN THIS HAVING? WILL IT HAVE A CLUBHOUSE, WILL IT HAVE A SWIMMING POOL, WILL IT HAVE PARKS AND TRAILS. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?

>> NO, SIR. THEN, THIS IS AGAIN, I KEEP COMING BACK TO THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT ITSELF.

JUST FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, WE JUST DON'T SEE FEASIBLE TO HAVE THOSE CLUBHOUSE, POOL THAT YOU WILL SEE A LOT LARGER COMMUNITIES.

I'LL JUST BE UPFRONT, WE HAVE SOME OPEN SPACE, WE HAVE DETENTION POND, WE'LL HAVE A FOUNTAIN HERE AND THERE.

BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE, WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A HEAVILY AMENITIZED THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE TRACK.

>> IF YOU'RE ABLE TO BRING THE PROPERTIES I MENTIONED, MESQUITE, COTTONWOOD, SYCAMORE, MAGNOLIA, AND CEDAR, I'D BE WILLING TO FOREGO A LOT OF THAT. THAT'S MY INPUT.

>> JUST ALSO ONE COMMENT TO YOUR TOWNHOMES.

WE DID LOOK AT TOWN HOME PROJECTS IN THIS AREA AND HAVE WORKED WITH MANY [INAUDIBLE], AND THE CONSENT RIGHT NOW IS THAT JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THE TOWNHOMES RIGHT NOW AND THE THE PERFORMANCE OF TOWN HOMES IN GENERALLY IS STILL LACKING RIGHT NOW.

WE DEFINITELY, WELCOME THE DENSITY THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER FOR DEVELOP, BUT AT THIS POINT, I THINK, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PRODUCT WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY.

THAT WOULD BE JUST OUR ASSESSMENT.

>> RESPECTFULLY, WE HAVE TWO TOWNHOME PRODUCTS HERE IN ANNA, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A THIRD PRODUCT BECAUSE THEY RENT IT OUT SO QUICKLY.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK THOSE OUR CITY BECAUSE WE'RE DIFFERENT.

>> UNDERSTAND. APPRECIATE IT.

>> NOW I KNOW WHEN HE WANTED TO GO BEFORE ME, HE STOLE MY THUNDER.

[LAUGHTER] I WAS LOOKING UP THE PROJECT YOU HAVE IN MELISSA, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SAME LITTLE BIT BIGGER, PROBABLY.

BUT FIRST OFF, I DO APPRECIATE OUR OLD STAFF DID LISTEN BECAUSE WE TOLD HIM NO MORE 40S, NO MORE 50S, WE WANT BIG MINIMUM LOT OF 60S AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

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THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK WITH A BIGGER PRODUCT.

BUT, I'M WITH THE REST OF THEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ENTERTAIN A PID WHENEVER YOU'RE BRINGING $400,000 HOMES, WHICH ANNA IS 90% OF ALREADY.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE PRODUCT THAT YOU HAVE IN MELISSA LOOKS WAY BETTER.

JUST THE CURB APPEAL AS COUNCILMAN SINGH WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO FROM NOW.

WE HAVE ENOUGH OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

YOU'RE TRYING TO JOIN IN WITH WHAT WE ALREADY GOT, AND WE WANT SOMETHING THAT STANDS OUT OR THAT IS THE 750 YOUR TOP OF THE LINE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET.

THE WHOLE 400, 450, 500.

WE GOT ENOUGH OF IT. THAT'S CLOSED FOR BUSINESS THING.

BUT THE WHOLE EASEMENT THING, COUNCILMAN TEEN, I'M MORE GLAD TO HELP WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE I'VE DEALT WITH IT BEFORE WHENEVER I WAS ON THE HOA BOARD OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THAT'S AN EASY FIX.

THAT'S AN EASY ASS WHENEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO HAVE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS.

THOSE ARE THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT YOU WANT TO DEVELOP.

YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD FINLEY FROM 42325? YOU AGREED TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE BUILDER THAT WANTED TO DO THE APARTMENTS, THEY AGREED TO THAT AND EVERYTHING.

YOU'RE OKAY STILL WITH THAT?

>> THAT'S THE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, YES.

>> BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT. LIKE YOU SAID, THE 423 ROAD THAT PORTION IS ACTUALLY NICE COMPARED TO OTHER ROADS IN ANNA.

LAUREN, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

THAT SECTION OF 423, WILL IT BE CITY OR NOT?

>> I MAY HAVE TO DEFER TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHENEVER THE CITY LIMITS IS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD OR EVEN ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, IT MAY BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. I'LL LET JOSEPH.

>> YES, LAUREN IS CORRECT.

WHEN THE CITY IS DEFINITELY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, THE COUNTY ROADS BECOME CITY MAINTENANCE, THE COUNTY HAS MOVED TO MORE OF ONCE WE OWN ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

THEY WANT TO PRETTY MUCH TURN IT OVER FOR CITY AS WELL.

>> OH, REALLY?

>> THAT'S A CONVERSATION I'D LIKE TO HAVE WITH YOU IN A COUNTY THEN.

ABOUT ANOTHER ROAD. WE'LL TALK.

>> I WOULD THINK 423, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE THE CITY CAN WORK ON IF IT'S OURS.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU CHANGING, YOU COMING BACK WITH A DIFFERENT OTHER NEW APARTMENTS. I KNOW THAT WASN'T YOU.

THAT WAS ANOTHER DEVELOPER.

BUT YOU LISTEN TO THE STAFF.

I JUST CAN'T GET ON BOARD WITH $400,000 HOMES.

WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THEM. I KNOW YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT PRODUCT BECAUSE WE SEE IT.

HE MENTIONED A LOT OF THE NAMES.

I JUST MENTIONED THE PICTURES, AND IT'S NOT TWO MINUTES FROM WHERE THIS PLACE IS, MAYBE FIVE.

BUT IN CHURCHILL, AND WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT CHURCHILL, ARE YOU ALL IN CHURCHILL, OR IS THERE OTHER BUILDERS?

>> THERE ARE OTHER BUILDERS.

>> THERE ARE OTHER BUILDERS. WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT CHURCHILL.

ONE QUESTION BEFORE I SAY, ARE YOU BUILDING THIS PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO US OR A DIFFERENT PRODUCT?

>> TUCHO AND BRIGHTFARMS ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER LOTS.

THOSE ARE 40-FOOT LOTS WITH A 30-FOOT HOME.

WHAT I'M SHOWING HERE TONIGHT IT'S ACTUALLY A STEP UP FROM BRIGHTFARMS BECAUSE THIS IS A 50-FOOT LOT WITH A 40-FOOT HOME.

>> YOUR SMALLER LOTS LOOK NICER, FROM THE CURVE, THAN YOUR 50-FOOT LOTS?

>> I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT YOU GUYS LIKE BRIGHTFARMS, AND THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE STAFF.

WE SENT A LINK TO THE STAFF TO LOOK AT BRIGHTFARMS AND I GUARANTEE YOU THAT WHAT I'M PROPOSING HERE, THE COOKS' APPEAL IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN BRIGHTFARMS. SOMETIMES WHEN WE LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL HOMES VERSUS WHAT'S BUILD OUT THERE, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT DISCONNECT THERE, BUT IN OUR INTERNAL RANKING OF PRODUCTS, THIS PRODUCT IS A STEP UP FROM BRIGHTFARMS.

>> FOR INSTANCE, THE HOME THAT I SEE, AND YOU ALL CAN LOOK IT UP.

THERE'S A PATIO IN BRIGHTFARMS'S FRONT PATIO.

HERE, THERE'S NOTHING BESIDES A LITTLE PAD FRONT DOOR.

THAT'S WHAT I SEE.

THAT'S MORE OF A PILL THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TO BE HONEST HERE IN ANNA.

I HOPE THERE'S OTHER COLORS OPTIONS,

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ALSO IN THE PI DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD LOVE FOR IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD IN AGREEMENT, THE AMOUNT OF SAME THE HOMES NEXT TO EACH OTHER, SAME COLOR BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT AS WELL TOO.

WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE AWAY FROM.

I NOTICED THE WORK SESSION.

I APPRECIATE THE CHANGE.

I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.

WE JUST NEED BETTER PRODUCT.

WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH OF WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT.

>> I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, AND JUST REAL QUICK.

I THINK THESE PICTURES DON'T REALLY SERVE THE PURPOSE.

I WISH I PROBABLY HAVE PUT UP MORE PICTURES OR DIFFERENT PICTURES.

THESE ARE SOME SIMPLE PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE AS FAR AS REPETITION CONCERN GOES, EVERY CITY, EVERY SUBDIVISION IS GOING TO HAVE THE MINORITY REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU CAN ONLY REPEAT EVERY FOUR OR THREE.

THE FRONT PORCHES, ALL THE STUFF, WE HAVE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS, WE HAVE SIX ELEVATIONS FOR EACH FOOR PLANS.

SOME OF THOSE MAY NOT BE SHOWN HERE.

SOME OF THIS IS JUST BASICALLY SOME SPEC HOMES, SO I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEND A FULL LINE-UP OF A PRODUCT THAT WAY, YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THIS ONLY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SIX HOMES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S JUST NOT THE PURPOSE.

THE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO SHOW IN THE WIDTH OF THE HOMES.

>> I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE PRICE.

I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THE $400,000 HOUSE.

I CAN'T I CAN'T GET ON BOARD OF THAT.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M NOT DOWN IN YOUR PRODUCT.

BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A HIGHER-END PRODUCT BECAUSE YOU SAID 400 WE'RE GETTING THE BOTTOM, AND YOU HAVE UP TO 750.

WE JUST WANT THE 750. HAVE ENOUGH 400.

>> LET ME JUST MENTION THAT, I THINK THE MESSAGE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT, COUNCIL IS THAT YOU GUYS WANT BIGGER LOTS, MORE EXPENSIVE HOMES.

AND WE SEE THAT NOT JUST FROM THE CITY OF ANNA, OTHER CITIES TO.

WE CAN LOOK AT LOCATION BY LOCATION.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS THAT WE'RE NEXT TO EXISTING COMMUNITY, AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

THOSE ARE IN A 300,000 TO $400,000 RANGE.

THERE IS A, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT'S THE BEST PRODUCT FOR HERE? IF WE PUT A $750,000 HOME HERE, IS THAT GOING TO CREATE SOME, YOU KNOW, IMBALANCE BECAUSE YOU GENERALLY DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, A HOME, YOU KNOW, TWICE AS, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE AS THE NEXT COMMUNITY UNLESS YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF A SEPARATION OR DIFFERENT KIND OF REASON FOR IT.

MAYBE HAVE AC LOTS OR AC LOTS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD GREATLY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING, BUT I HAVE TO, I'LL HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE 100% BECAUSE YOU GO TO ANNA TOWN SQUARE, YOU SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

YOU GO TO HURRICANE CREEK.

YOU HAVE LUNAR IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND THAT'S JUST A BUNCH OF THE COPYCAT SAME HOUSE RIGHT DOWN ONE STREET. THERE'S 20 OF THEM.

AND THAT'S WHY I FULLY DISAGREE ON THAT.

AND I PERSONALLY THE WHOLE I'VE LEARNED, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 7.5 YEARS.

THE WHOLE COMMERCIAL, THE APARTMENTS, THE HOMES.

IT'S ALMOST KIND OF THE SAME WAY WITH THIS.

THE COMMERCIAL, THE BIG HOMES, THEN BECONGO, PHASE FOUR.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU ARE NOT CONNECTED.

YOU'RE CONNECTED BY FINLEY.

THERE'S A SEPARATION, THERE'S BACK YARDS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

I PERSONALLY, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD SCENE OF PEOPLE COMING DOWN FINLEY.

SO THAT WOULD BENEFIT YOU, SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

I'M NOT A BUILDER, I'M NOT A DEVELOPER, BUT THAT'S JUST HOW I SEE IT.

BUT I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> LET ME ASK YOUR QUESTION.

THE IDEA OF THE PID IS THAT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BUILD A $400,000 PRODUCT VERSUS A $350,000 PRODUCT?

>> THE PID HELPS WITH THE LOW COSTS.

DOESN'T REALLY GET INTO MY VERTICAL RIGHT. PIECE OF IT.

I THINK, FOR US, WE ALL COME TO THE AFFORDABILITY SITUATION.

I THINK OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, THE AFFORDABILITY HAS A NEGATIVE TONE TO IT, BUT IT'S REALLY VERY PRESSING TODAY IN OUR BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY $0.5 MILLION HOME, $750,000 HOMES, AND NICE.

BUT THE POOL IS VERY SMALL, AS FAR AS WHO CAN QUALIFY FOR THAT.

AND SO FOR US TO BE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BUILD A PRODUCT

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SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

I MEAN, CAN WE MAKE IT $350,000 HOMES, WITHOUT THE PID? IT ALSO PLAYS INTO THE LAND PRICE TOO.

SO ALL TIED TOGETHER WHEN WE RUN THE PERFORMER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THAT THIS MARKET, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE MAY BE WRONG, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, HIGH THREE, LOW FORCE ON AVERAGE OF $400,000 HOME WOULD FIT THIS TRACK, THE BEST IN OUR OPINION, AND TO DO THAT.

FINANCIALLY, WITHOUT PID, IT JUST NOT FEASIBLE FOR US AND WE JUST SAY, WE LOOKED AT IT.

THANK YOU, AND WE WILL JUST GIVE IT BACK TO THE SELLER AND LET THEM KNOW, FIND THE NEXT BUYER.

>> OKAY, TO TOUCH ON THAT AND WHAT THE OTHER COUNCILMEN HAVE SAID UP HERE TOO.

NOT NECESSARILY A BIGGER LOT, BUT A BETTER PRODUCT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO THROW A PIT OUT THERE, HOW ABOUT $500,000 HOMES TO START OFF WITH? IF YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR A GOAL TO HAVE THAT MEDIA INCOME LEVELS START TO RISE IN YOUR CITY, IT HAS TO START SOMEWHERE.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND LOOK AT ONE OF THE HOMES THAT YOU HAVE PICTURED HERE, YOU CAN FIND THEM IN JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS FOR $300,000 WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR A PIT.

I WOULD NEED TO BE A BETTER PRODUCT, BASICALLY IS WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU.

>> WELL, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT A PRODUCT, WE WOULD DO A PERFORMER, WE LOOK AT WE PULL COMPETITORS OUT THERE, AND WE TEND TO BE COMPETITIVE RIGHT ALONG, YOU GOT A SUITE OF HOME BUILDERS IN TOWN, OR MAJOR NATIONAL BUILDERS IN TOWN.

SO WE PERFORM OUR PRICING KIND OF TRACKING ALONG TO GIVE US THE ADVANTAGE THAT WE DON'T OVERPRICE THEM.

AND ALSO IN TODAY'S MARKET, I'M SURE THAT WE ALL PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE HOUSING MARKET AND WHETHER IT IS A TEMPORARY SITUATION OR WE'RE GOING TO BOUNCE BACK QUICKLY OR NOT, BUT THE BUILDERS CAN ONLY LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, AND, THE PRICING THAT YOU GUYS SEEN ON OUR WEBSITE, THAT JUST THE PRICE THAT YOU ADVERTISE.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE TO HEAVILY INCENTIVIZE CUSTOMERS WITH ALLOWANCES, RATE BUT DOWNS.

ALL THE STUFF IS GOING TO MAKE THE BUSINESS MODEL VERY TRICKY.

SO IT IS OBVIOUSLY BETTER FOR THE CITY TO HAVE MORE EXPENSIVE HOMES AND MORE FEATURES AND ATTRACT HIGHER-INCOME FAMILIES, AND I GET THAT.

BUT IF THE MASS IS NOT THERE, IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CUSTOMERS LINED UP TO BUY OUR HOMES, I CAN BUILD $1 MILLION HOMES, THAT'S JUST GOING TO SIT THERE.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

>> I'M GOING TO JUMP BACK IN.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU A LOT OF MONEY HERE.

YOU WANT TO USE TAX MONEY? WE WANT TO MAKE A GOOD INVESTMENT.

YOUR CURRENT PRODUCT, BASED ON THE PRICES OF YOUR HOUSES THAT I'VE SEEN ON THE REALTOR LISTINGS, YOU'RE GOING TO LAY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $40000000-56 MILLION IF YOU SELL OUT EVERY ONE OF THESE PRODUCTS BASED ON THE CURRENT HOUSING THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING.

IF YOU DO THE TOWN HOMES, YOU'RE GOING TO JUMP IT UP THOSE LOT SIZES UP FROM THE $12 MILLION PRODUCT TO A $22 MILLION PRODUCT.

I JUST MADE YOU $11 MILLION.

IF YOU DO THE PRODUCTS ALREADY MENTIONED, AND THE SAME ONES THAT NATHAN WAS ALLUDING TO ABOUT THE QUALITY OF PRODUCT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

I KNOW YOU CAN GET THEM ON THESE PROPERTIES.

YOU'RE GOING TO GO FROM A $40 MILLION PRODUCT TO A $61 MILLION PRODUCT, AND THAT'S BEING CONSERVATIVE.

I ACTUALLY RAN LOW NUMBERS.

I WOULD SAY IS CLOSER TO A $72 MILLION PRODUCT.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULDN'T MIND INVESTING IN FOR THE CITY OF ANNA.

I'LL JUST TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IF THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO SAY NO.

IF YOU'LL LISTEN AND YOU'LL LISTEN TO THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'RE GETTING, WE WANT TO BUILD A GREAT PRODUCT.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO GREAT CITY AND IS GOING TO DO GREAT, AND JUST SAY NO, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF HAPPENING ON HIGHWAY 5, FOSTER CROSSING, AND THE OUTER LOOP, AND SHORTCOMING YEARS, SOME OF THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PUBLICLY THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN UPSCALE PRODUCT.

PLEASE LISTEN TO US.

YOU WANT US TO WORK WITH YOU? WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.

WE KNOW THE CITY.

I GUARANTEE, WE KNOW IT BETTER THAN YOU DO.

>> OF COURSE.

>> ON A REFLECTION OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, AESTHETICS ARE IMPORTANT.

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WE LOOK AROUND, WE SEE THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER, AS THEY WERE SAYING.

YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD YOUR HOMES.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY OTHER BUILDERS IN THIS?

>> [INAUDIBLE] THIS WILL BE SMART ENOUGH.

I MEAN, I'M NOT WORRIED OUT, BUT THE PLAINTIFFS WHO HAVE SOLO, BUT PLAN PARTNER, YEAH. I MEAN, THAT WILL BE.

>> OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ROADMAP?

>> SURE.

>> THERE, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME, I COULD BE WRONG.

IT LOOKS LIKE 2,2 LANE ROADS.

THEN IT GOES INTO 1,2 LANE ROAD, AND THEN OVER HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HIGHWAY FIVE, THE SAME THING.

TWO, TWO LANES. AM I SEEING THAT WRONG?

>> YEAH. THERE IS JUST TWO LANES.

>> IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE.

WHEN IT'S BUILT OUT THAT INTERSECTION YOU'RE IN [INAUDIBLE].

[INAUDIBLE] AND I FORGET SILVER LEAF.

YEAH. THAT INTERSECTION IS FOUR LANES.

INTERSECTION ONLY. WHEN YOU GO LEFT, IT'S JUST TWO LANES.

THAT'S ALL IT IS. IT'S NOT BUILT OUT.

>> BUT IN THE FUTURE, IT'S GOING TO BE FOUR LANES.

>> MAYBE.

>> TWO LANES DIVIDED.

>> YEAH. BUT GOING RIGHT, WHAT ARE YOU ALL BUILDING?

>> PREVIOUSLY, WHEN [INAUDIBLE] PHASE 4 WAS BUILT, IT WAS 80-FOOT RIGHT OF WAY WITH FOUR LANES DIVIDED.

AND THEN OVER IN FINLEY, IT'S FOUR LANES DIVIDED.

HOWEVER, SINCE PCONGOVE WAS CONSTRUCTED, WE HAD CHANGED THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO BE A 60-FOOT COLLECTOR, WHICH IS TWO LANES TOTAL.

>> YEAH. BECAUSE THE WESTBOUND IT WOULD BE THE EASTBOUND, BUT WHAT'S NOT THERE FOR THE FINLEY GOING WEST? IT WOULD BE LIKE A $5 MILLION BRIDGE TO GO OVER A LAKE, AND IT WOULD TAKE AWAY SOMEONE'S BARN, AND WE GO RIGHT THROUGH SOMEONE'S HOUSE.

SO I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF US.

IT WAS COUNCILMAN MILLER AND EVEN YOU WERE THERE.

COUNCILMAN RYAN WERE THERE.

WE CHANGED AT THE ZERO FERRY PLAN.

THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE ORIGINAL THINGS WHENEVER.

>> SO THIS IS GOING TO BE JUST A TWO-LANE ROAD.

>> CORRECT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] TO DEVELOP THE HAGAR TRACT AS WELL AS THE TWO PROPERTIES TO THE EAST OF IT IS DESIGNATED AS A 60-FOOT COLLECTOR.

>> OKAY. BECAUSE THE WAY THAT LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BOTTLENECKING.

>> BUT THE INTERSECTION BIG.

>> PUT AROUND ABOUT MY NEXT ISSUE WITH THIS IS YOU SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE NO AMENITIES, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN HOA?

>> YEAH, WE HAVE SOME COMMON AREAS.

I GUESS NOT A STRUCTURE LIKE A BUILDING THAT TYPE OF AMENITY, BUT IT WILL BE SOME OPEN SPACE.

AND THE HOA WE HAVE TO MANAGE THE DETENTION POND, THE GREEN SPACE AROUND THE DETENTION AREA.

AND ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGHOUT THE MAIN COLLECTOR, THERE WILL BE SOME PARKING IN OPEN SPACE HERE AND THERE JUST TO KIND OF OPEN UP THE LOTS.

>> SEE, I'M A FAN OF USABLE GREEN SPACE AND FOR COMMUNITIES TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE HOA FEES FOR MAINTENANCE ON LANDSCAPING, THAT TO ME, I MEAN, SACRIFICE ONE OF YOUR LOTS AND PUT A POOL.

GIVE THESE FOLKS SOMETHING TO DO BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO GO TO OUR SCHOOLS.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO DURING THE SUMMER.

SO JUST CONSIDER THAT.

>> SURE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES.

>> I FEEL IF I ADDED ANYTHING, I'D JUST BE TAGGING ON WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID.

WE DO NEED TO BRING THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT UP TO THE UPPER END OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER.

AND LCOUNSELNSIL PERSON HERNDON SAID, SOME KIND OF AN AMENITY, SOME POCKET PARK, A POOL, SOMETHING.

THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY.

>> WELL, WE'LL TAKE ALL YOUR INPUT.

WE'LL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COMING UP, APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON IN WORK SESSION.

COUNCILMAN SINGH HAS BROUGHT SOME STUFF UP THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO OUR ATTENTION AND SOME INFORMATION TO GIVE US TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. WHILE CITY SECRETARY IS HANDING OUT SOME DOCUMENTS, ONE, THE BIGGER PAMPHLET, IS ESSENTIALLY A CHART WE'RE GOING TO USE AS WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES.

IF YOU WANT TO NUMBER, THE PINK ONE IS NUMBER 1, GREEN ONE IS NUMBER 2, BLUE ONE IS NUMBER 3.

UNFORTUNATELY, FOR EVERYONE OUT THERE, WE DON'T HAVE THE POWERPOINTS ALREADY TODAY.

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THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS, I'VE LISTENED TO A LOT OF RESIDENTS.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS OPENLY, IN FRONT OF EVERYONE ON THE DAIS ON WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE IN THE FUTURE OF ANNA? WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE COMPILED SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THOSE THOUGHTS AND PUT IT ON PAPER FOR US.

IT'S A ROUGH ESSENTIAL FRAMEWORK FOR US TO START THE CONVERSATION.

I'D LOVE EVERYONE'S INPUT CITY STAFF AND COUNSEL INCLUDED.

WE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND, TEXAS, THE STATE HAS CHANGED A LOT OF THE RULES.

IF WE TALK ABOUT SOUTH LAKE, WE TALK ABOUT WEST LAKE, WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME PLAYBOOK ANYMORE.

THIS CONVERSATION IS ESSENTIALLY FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER AND CITY STAFF WILL HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT THE GAME PLAN IS AND HOW WE CAN AFFECT SOME OF THESE CHANGES.

TO START OFF WITH, ESSENTIALLY, THE GOAL OF THIS CONVERSATION IS RAISING THE BAR FOR RESIDENTIAL QUALITY IN ANNA, TEXAS.

WE WANT TO BENCHMARK AGAINST SOUTH LAKE AND FAIRVIEW.

THOSE ARE THE TWO LOCAL ONES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.

ANNA'S CURRENT RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS DRIVE VOLUME AND NOT QUALITY.

I THINK THIS TOUCHES ON THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WE WERE JUST HAVING.

PEER CITIES COMMAND HIGHER VALUE THROUGH POLICY ALIGNMENT.

WHAT IS OUR OBJECTIVE THAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS IDENTIFY ACTIONABLE ZONING AND DESIGN UPGRADES WITH OUR CITY STAFF AND TAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

IF WE FLIP TO THE NEXT ONE, IT'S A CHART.

ON THE COLORED ONE, IT IS YOUR FIRST CHART.

WHAT I ESSENTIALLY DID WAS, I MADE A CATEGORY ON ONE COLUMN, IT'S MINIMUM LOT SIZES, ARCHITECTURAL HOME STANDARDS.

I ESSENTIALLY TOOK WHAT MAKES SOUTH LAKE THE WAY IT IS.

WHAT ARE THE ESSENTIAL ITEMS, OR LOT SIZES, THEIR SETBACKS? WHAT DO THEY HAVE? I COMPARED IT TO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, OUR MINIMUM LOT SIZE RIGHT NOW IS TYPICALLY 6,000-7,000 SQUARE FEET.

SMALLER LOTS ARE IN SOME NEWER DEVELOPMENTS.

WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, IT'S USUALLY HALF ACRE TO ONE ACRE LOTS, WHICH IS USUALLY ABOUT 21,000 SQUARE FEET OR ABOVE, AND IT'S STRICT ZONING BY DISTRICT.

WHAT THEY DO IS SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY CREATED STATE, LUXURY DISTRICTS TO CONTROL SOME OF IT.

ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE STAFF WILL PROVIDE US THAT CONTEXT.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE WERE TOUCHING ABOUT IS HOME ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.

IF WE LOOK AT ANNA, WE HAVE A BASIC FACADE VARIATION, LIMITED ARCHITECTURAL OVERSIGHT.

HOWEVER, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, DETAILED ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN MANUAL.

THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC MANUAL THAT THEY'VE DEVELOPED FOR DEVELOPERS AND STRONG VISUAL CONSISTENCY.

ANOTHER ONE IS BUILDING MATERIALS.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE CURB APPEAL.

FOR BUILDING MATERIALS, ANNA CURRENTLY HAS MOSTLY BRICK WITH SOME SIDING, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, NO CITYWIDE MATERIAL PERCENTAGE RULE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, THEY'VE GOT A HIGH MASONRY 80-100% STRICT ROOF WITH HIGH PITCH REQUIREMENTS AND ELEVATION STANDARDS.

VERY STARK CONTRAST THERE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE LOOK AT A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, WE LOOK AT THE TREES PRESERVATION.

WE STILL HAVE SOME PROTECTIONS ON SOME OF OUR TREES, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE HISTORIC ONES.

BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, THEY'RE VERY STRONG PRESERVATION ORDINANCES.

THEY TAKE A LOOK AT TREE SURVEYS AND THEY HAVE PROTECTION ZONES THAT THEY'VE CREATED AS WELL.

WHEN WE LOOK AT MULTIFAMILY, HERE WE HAVE A HIGH APARTMENT ZONING RATIO, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING INTO.

BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PLAYBOOK WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES, BUT THEY HAVE VERY STRICT DENSITY LIMITS.

MINIMAL NEW MULTIFAMILY ALLOWED.

ANOTHER THING THAT REALLY STANDS OUT WHEN YOU GO TO SOUTH LAKE AND WEST LAKE AND SOME OF THESE AREAS IS IN THE SUBDIVISION OR THE ENTRY, AK THE STREETSCAPE, WE AND ANNA HAVE VERY STANDARD ENTRY FEATURES AND VARIABLE LANDSCAPING QUALITY.

WHEN WE LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, THEY HAVE VERY HIGH-END MONUMENTS, MEDIANS, LIGHTING, AND FENCING REQUIREMENTS.

THAT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO DEFINITELY CONSIDER.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS, WE ADMINISTER A REVIEW, BUT NO DESIGN BOARD FOR HOUSING.

WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND AND HOPEFULLY REST OF COUNCIL IS ON BOARD IS, WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT CREATING A FORMAL DESIGN REVIEW FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS.

WE CAN START OFF WITH RESIDENTIAL, WE CAN EXERCISE AND SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.

BUT IT PROVIDES THE LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING THE QUALITY THAT WE'VE ORIGINALLY PROMISED.

WHEN THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE STANDARDS.

RIGHT NOW IN ANNA, IT'S BASICALLY MEET THE BASIC CODE.

SOME INCONSISTENCY IN OLDER AREAS THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY

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BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, THEY FOCUS ON PREMIUM INFRASTRUCTURE STANDARDS TO DEVELOP THESE ROADS IN THESE TRANSIT WAYS AHEAD OF THE ANTICIPATED CURVE OF THE POPULATION.

THEY ALSO HAVE VERY DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE PLANS.

ONCE AGAIN, I KNOW A LOT OF THE ROADS THAT WE HAVE ARE OLDER, THEY'VE HAVE A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR, SO IT'S NOT FAIR TO COMPARE THAT AS IT IS, BUT AT SOME POINT, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT.

I'M GOING TO SPEED THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE OTHERS, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND MAINTENANCE, BRANDING, AND MARKETING POSITION, AND THEN DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES.

HERE IN ANNA, WE DO A CASE BY CASE INCENTIVES, IT'S NOT QUALITY TIED.

BUT WE LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, THEY'RE VERY SELECTIVE.

IT'S PERFORMANCE-BASED INCENTIVES FOR SPECIFICALLY PREMIER PRODUCTS.

I THINK FOR MY CONVERSATIONS, WE'RE HEADED THAT WAY.

IF WE FLIP TO THE NEXT PAGE, LARGE LOT ZONING.

SOUTH LAKE AND FAIRVIEW, THEY HAVE ONE ACRE ESTATE ZONES.

WE MOSTLY HAVE ONCE AGAIN, THE 6,000-7,200 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.

IF WE FLIP ONE MORE, THE NEXT CHART IS ACTUALLY THE CHART IN GREEN ON YOUR BIG ONE.

THIS IS A SIMILAR ONE, BUT WHAT IT DOES, IT'LL BREAK DOWN FURTHER, WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE.

FOR EXAMPLE, SOUTH LAKE, CURRENTLY, FOR THE MINIMUM LOT SIZES, THEY'VE GOT 20,000 SQUARE FEET R20 BASE WITH SOME LARGER 30K ONE ACRE LOTS.

A SUGGESTION WOULD BE MAYBE THERE'S A MINIMUM HALF ACRE REQUIREMENT WITH THE ABILITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO REDUCE IT DOWN TO A QUARTER ACRE, IF CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ARE MET, GREENSPACE AMENITIES, THEY WORK WITH US ON DIFFERENT THINGS.

ANOTHER THING IS LOT WIDTH.

SOUTH LAKE CURRENTLY HAS 120 FOOT LOT WIDTH.

WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT 100-120 FOOT TO, SO IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

WHEN WE LOOK AT SETBACKS, THEY'VE GOT 35 FOOT SETBACKS IN THE FRONT, 15-25 ON THE SIDES, AND 30-40 IN THE REARS.

I THINK AT SOME LEVEL, SOME VARIATION OF THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR SETBACKS FOR OUR PROPERTIES.

ALSO, ANOTHER UNIQUE THING THAT THEY HAVE IS MAXIMUM COVERAGE.

OUT OF THE ACRE, IN SOUTH LAKE, YOU CAN ONLY COVER 30-35% OF THAT ACRE WITH ANY TYPE OF STRUCTURE, ANY TYPE OF BUILDING.

WHAT THAT DOES IS IT PRESERVES THAT FEEL OF BIGGER LOTS, OPEN, COMMUNITY RATE.

IT JUST PRESERVES A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS OUR MINIMUM HOUSE STANDARDS.

RIGHT NOW IN SOUTH LAKE, THEY'VE GOT 2,500-3,500 SQUARE FOOT BASE WITH 4,000 PLUS IN RPU DEEDS.

IF WE LOOK AT ANNA, WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO, ONCE AGAIN, FOOD FOR THOUGHT IS, MAYBE WE CAN PUT A 2,500 AND 3,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM RATE WITH 10-15 ON THE SIDES, 25-30 ON THE REARS, JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER HERE.

ALSO, THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

ONE THING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, AND I'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY PEOPLE ON COUNCIL AS WELL.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD AGREE IS WE LOOK AT MASONRY, ABOUT 80% MINIMUM, AND 8-12 PITCH ON THE ROOF.

WHAT THAT MEANS, THE VERY TALL PITCHED ROOF TO CREATE THAT HIGHER END STYLE, TILE SLATE, 50 YEAR SHINGLES OR SOME TYPE OF HIGHER QUALITY ROOF IS SOMETHING THAT SOUTH LAKE HAS AS WELL.

THEY ALSO HAVE A 10-15% OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.

THE ONLY WAY THEY MAKE ANY DEVIATION FROM THAT IS BASED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND YOU STILL HAVE TO QUALIFY THROUGH NUMEROUS CHECKPOINTS TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT.

LOT MIX AS WELL.

SOME OF THE SMALLER LOTS IN THE PUDS DO ALLOW SOME OF THE HOMES TO GO DOWN TO 15,000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT WAY WE DO ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR THE DEVELOPERS.

REMEMBER OUR GOAL IS NOT TO PUSH THE DEVELOPERS AWAY, IT'S TO JUST REQUEST A BETTER PRODUCT.

HOA AND PRIVATE STREETS.

THIS IS SOMETHING I RECENTLY FOUND OUT WHEN THERE'S GATED COMMUNITIES, THE STREETS THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITIES ARE NOT SERVICED BY THE CITY.

THAT'S SAVINGS ON ROADS, SAVINGS ON INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF ENCOURAGEMENT TO CONSIDER SOME OF THESE GATED COMMUNITIES AS WELL.

THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT WHY WOULD WE GO FROM A HALF ACRE DOWN TO A QUARTER ACRE AND ALLOW THAT VARIANCE? WHAT SOUTH LAKE DOES IS THEY GIVE EXTRA FLEXIBILITY AND FULL POINTS FOR TRAILS, PARKS, EASEMENTS, ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE TREE CANOPY.

NOW, THEY HAVE ZONING AND PARTY AGREEMENTS, BUT THERE'S NO REAL ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.

THAT'S ONE THING I WOULD REQUEST CITY STAFF LOOK AT WITH THE AGREEMENT OF COUNSEL IS IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO CREATE A ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THROUGH WITH ANY OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES IF THEY DO END UP COMING THROUGH.

JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT ON SOME OF THOSE.

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I HAD A LINK IN THE POWERPOINT, SO UNFORTUNATELY, FORGIVE ME, I'M NOT ABLE TO PULL THAT UP RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU CAN GO ON YOUR PHONE, TYPE IN SOUTH LAKE DRC, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND THEY HAVE VERY SPECIFIC WAYS FOR THE DEVELOPERS ON HOW TO BUILD OUT THEIR PALMS, OR PROPERTIES, ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN.

IF WE FLIP TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS THE LARGER CHART, THIS IS WHERE I'VE ACTUALLY INCLUDED FAIRVIEW, AND THIS IS CHART NUMBER 3, THE BLUE ONE ON THE BIGGER ONE.

JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAY, A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IS, WHEN WE LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, WE'VE GOT THE ONE ACRES, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FAIRVIEW, THEY'VE GOT THE ONE ACRES, ONCE AGAIN, WE COULD LOOK AT A VARIATION OF THAT QUARTER ACRE TO HALF ACRE JUST TO HELP BRING IN SOME OF THE HIGHER QUALITY THAT WE'RE REQUIRING.

ALSO, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT SOUTH LAKE, THEIR SIDEWALKS ARE ALL A PART OF THEIR MASTER TRAILS.

EVERYTHING CONNECTS EVERY LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE AIMING TOWARDS.

I THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONSIDER THAT ULTIMATELY, EVERY SIDEWALK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD CONNECT ULTIMATELY TO A TRAIL SOMEWHERE.

THEN ALSO, LET'S SEE HERE.

SOME OF THESE THINGS WE'VE DISCUSSED ALREADY.

IF WE CAN JUMP FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.

AS I'VE TOUCHED ON BEFORE, SOME OF THE SETBACKS AND COVERAGES.

ONCE AGAIN, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE 35% LOT MAX COVERAGES, 10-15 FOOT, DEFINITELY OPEN TO HEARING SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL.

IF WE FLIP TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS TREE PRESERVATION, GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR TREES PRESERVATION, SOME OF THEIR ORDINANCES.

IF WE FLIP TO THE NEXT ONE, ENVIRONMENTAL AND AESTHETIC STANDARDS, I KNOW THAT'S VERY BIG FOCUS FOR US.

LIGHTING, FULL CUTOFF FEATURES, SOUND, DECIBEL LIMITS OF PROPERTY LINE, ENERGY, I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS, TREE PRESERVATION AND HIGHER REQUIREMENTS, AND THE MORE GREEN SPACES, MORE POCKET PARKS.

I KNOW THAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY PERFECT SEGUE FROM OUR EARLIER CONVERSATION.

WE TALKED ABOUT WORKABILITY WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND THEN STREETSCAPE IDENTITY AND THEN POLICY INTEGRATION.

REALLY, WHAT IT IS, HOPEFULLY, TODAY WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONVERSATION, ANY FEEDBACK DO YOU GUYS WANT TO OPENLY HAVE ON ANY IDEAS? WHEN YOU THINK OF HIGH-END COMMUNITY IN ANNA, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? DOES THAT MEAN CERTAIN SQUARE FOOT ON THE HOUSES? DOES THAT MEAN CERTAIN SETBACKS? I'D LOVE FOR ANY INPUT OR ANY INSIGHTS THAT ANY OF YOU HAVE.

WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION EARLIER. THANK YOU.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> NO, GO AHEAD.

>> THIS ONE DIRECTED AT CLARK, ISN'T THERE SOME REGULATION ON AS FAR AS BUILDING MATERIALS THAT THE STATE HAS AGAINST US BEING ABLE TO REGULATE THAT?

>> YES. COUPLE OF SESSIONS AGO, THE LEGISLATURE IN AUSTIN PASSED A LAW THAT LIMITS A CITY'S AUTHORITY TO REGULATE BUILDING MATERIALS THEMSELVES.

IF YOU ATTEMPT TO DO THAT ORDINANCES, THAT COULD BE FOUND TO BE INVALID? WHAT ANNA AND A LOT OF OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IS TRY TO ENTER INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, INSTEAD OF DOING IT THROUGH ORDINANCE, INSTEAD OF DOING IT THROUGH CITY REGULATIONS OR CODES, YOU FIND DEVELOPERS WHO ARE WILLING TO ENTER INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, SOMETIMES INVOLVING SOME FINANCING.

BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THOSE BUILDING STANDARDS IN AND TO BE ENFORCEABLE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ISSUE CITATIONS, BUT YOU CAN CONTRACTUALLY ENFORCE BUILDING STANDARDS.

THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN LOOK AT THAT [INAUDIBLE] MENTIONED, THINGS LIKE THE PITCH OF A ROOF.

HAVING REQUIREMENTS LIKE THAT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BUILDING MATERIALS, BUT IT'S SOME DESIGN IDEAS THAT WOULD TEND TO RESULT IN A HIGHER PRODUCT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CURRENTLY WE HAVE JUST OVER 60 SQUARE MILES, 15 SQUARE MILES AT THE CITY LIMITS, 45 SQUARE MILES A ETJ, HOW DO WE PREVENT MUD IN USA FROM HAPPENING?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH AS WELL IS, HOW DO WE PREVENT SOME OF THESE MUDS FROM COMING IN AND JUST DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT?

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THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A LOT OF THESE SERVICES, THE WATER, THE FIRE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT IS ONE LEVERAGE POINT, BUT IF I MAY TAG IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHAT OTHER OPTIONS DO YOU THINK THAT WE POSSIBLY HAVE? I KNOW THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN STONE, BUT JUST SEE IF WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION, PLEASE?

>> YEAH. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE KEEPS MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR CITIES TO REALLY DO ANYTHING IN THE ETJ.

WHAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DONE WE WORK WITH CLARK IS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS BACK TO THE CONVERSATION THERE.

THE CHALLENGE WITH MUDS IS MUDS ARE GOVERNED BY THEIR OWN.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS OF THE STATE.

THEY'RE GIVEN WIDE LATITUDE.

YOU CAN HAVE 50 PEOPLE TO A DWELLING AND THERE'S NOTHING THE CITY OF ANNA COULD DO ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE CHOSEN WHERE WE CAN TO AT LEAST ENTERTAIN BRING IT INTO THE CITY WITH TRYING TO ENFORCE CERTAIN THINGS, BUT THERE'S ONLY SO FAR THAT WE CAN GO BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO IT.

THEY CAN BUILD THEIR OWN WASTEWATER SYSTEM, TRINITY FALLS, [INAUDIBLE], NORTH [INAUDIBLE], THAT'S HAPPENING NORTH OF US.

THERE'S VERY LIMITED THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO, EXCEPT FOR WORKING WITH PLAYING THE YOU NEED OUR SERVICES CARD TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN.

SO FAR, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENED MOSTLY ALONG 75 EVEN, THOSE WERE ALL IN THE ETJ.

HAVE WE NOT BROUGHT THEM IN, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN MUDS, INCLUDING HURRICANE CREEK.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YOU OPEN UP AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

AT SOME POINT, THE CITY LIMITS ARE GOING TO EXPAND.

IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO POTENTIALLY PUT A MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, ANTICIPATING AS WE ANNEX AND EVENTUALLY GROW THAT WILL APPLY TO THOSE AREAS AS WELL? OR IS THAT LOGIC MAYBE NOT CORRECT?

>> YEAH, I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY ROOM TO EXPLORE THAT, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT GETTING INTO THE LEGALITIES, INTO THE DETAILS OF LEGALITIES, WE WANT TO RESERVE THAT FOR CLOSED SESSION.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROVIDING THAT, BUT GREAT QUESTIONS, SIR. APPRECIATE YOU.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF I MAY.

KEIL KENNER [PHONETIC], DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

I THINK ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN BE DISCUSSED.

I THINK THEY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT A HOLISTIC VIEW, DATA DRIVEN AND BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND LOOK AT THEM.

THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS AS COUNCIL HAS COUNSELED WITH YOU, THAT THE STATE HAS TAKEN A LOT OF CONTROLS AWAY FROM US IN THOSE ABILITIES, BUT THERE'S WAYS FOR US TO OVERCOME SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND CONSTRAINTS, BUT TALKING ABOUT THEM IN A HOLISTIC WAY, I THINK, IS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD BASED ON INFORMATION BECAUSE THERE'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE THAT CAN HELP US INCENTIVIZE, WHICH HELPS OVERCOME SOME OF THOSE OBSTACLES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE USE OF THOSE AND HOW MUCH WE WANT TO BURDEN OUR COMMUNITY WITH IN THE FUTURE THOSE FUTURE HOMEOWNERS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY MAYBE THROUGH SOME WORK SESSIONS TO DISCUSS THAT FURTHER IN DETAIL WITH YOU.

>> FANTASTIC SO MUCH.

IF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, THIS IS OUR NEW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. HE'S A ROCK STAR.

I'VE ONLY KNOWN FOR 30 MINUTES.

I'M VERY IMPRESSED. WE HAVE GOOD STUFF COMING FOR YOU CITY OF ANNA. STAY TUNED.

>> NO, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. THANKS. STAN.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN.

COUNCILMAN SEEING THIS IS A LOT OF HOMEWORK.

YOU'RE DEFINITELY EARNING YOUR PAYCHECK.

THAT WAS A JOKE. TO ANYONE WHO'S LISTENING, I PROMISE.

DRINKING FROM THE FIRE HOSE HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION I LOOK FORWARD TO PEELING IT BACK.

I THINK, CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 100% MASONRY ON THE BOOKS, ALTHOUGH, IT'S UNENFORCEABLE.

GOOD NEWS IS THAT EVERY DEVELOPER THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE, I THINK EVEN PRIOR, HAS BEEN QUITE AGREEABLE TO OUR STANDARDS.

IT'S NOT BEEN OVERBEARING OR PREVENTATIVE AND ITS MIRED WITH TEXAS LEGISLATIVE BUREAUCRACY.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING.

I'M NOT GOING TO PICK THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT APART.

CODE ENFORCEMENT, IT SAYS REACTIVE.

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IF THERE IS A PERCEPTION OUT THAT'S REACTIVE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT IS IN A FUTURE CONVERSATION.

I HAVE SEEN OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVELY WORKING WITH NEIGHBORS.

IF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY BEHAVIOR THAT'S MORE REACTIVE INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE, PLEASE LET STAFF KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW, THROUGH THE YEARS, WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE WORKING THAT.

NOT JUST IN A MANNER OF ENFORCING ORDINANCES, HELPING OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HAVING TROUBLE MEETING THE STANDARDS IN THOSE ORDINANCES, WHICH IS NOT LIKE A LOT OF CITIES.

AGAIN, ANNA IS DIFFERENT.

THE VETTING OF BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS, I'D LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT.

THERE ARE SEVERAL MENTIONS OF THE TREES.

AS A FORMER COUNCILMAN SAID, SAVING THE TREES MAKES THE LORAX HAPPY.

WE JUST RECEIVED, A YEAR AGO, THE SILVER CITY AWARD BECAUSE OF ALL THAT WE'RE DOING.

AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE MORE TO EXPOUND UPON THAT THAT WE'RE NOT DOING, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT TRAJECTORY THERE.

WE SKIPPED THE ENTRY LEVEL AWARD, LIKE THE PARTICIPANT AWARD, AND JUMPED STRAIGHT TO SILVER.

WE'RE SHOOTING FOR WAS IT PLATINUM? I THINK IS THE NEXT ONE ABOVE GOLD.

WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THERE.

YOU'RE HITTING ON MY HOT BUTTONS, WALKABILITY, SIDEWALKS TRAIL SYSTEMS, ALL THAT,100%.

I KNOW OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT WHENEVER THEY'RE PART OF THOSE PLANNING MEETINGS, SPEAK UP.

EMMA PAUSE ON THAT. MARK, ARE WE STILL HAVING DEPARTMENTAL REVIEWS OF PLANS?

>> YES, SIR.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY, WHENEVER WE HAVE A DEVELOPER COME IN, EVERYBODY TAKES THEIR PART AND MAKES SURE IT HOLDS UP TO OUR ORDINANCES, OUR VISION, PICKS THE THING APART.

IT'S JUST MILLIONS OF MEETINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO REPRESENT, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THOSE MEETINGS, CORRECT?

>> I CAN SEE LAUREN OVER THERE JUST ITCHING TO SAY SOMETHING.

LAUREN, DO YOU MIGHT COME UP AND TALKING ABOUT OUR PROCESS? SHE'S THE ONE WHO USUALLY SHEPHERDS THOSE COMMENTS BACK FROM STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT ALL THE PLANS.

>> GOOD. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE I HEARD A FEW MONTHS AGO WE WEREN'T REALLY DOING THAT ANYMORE, SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT EVERYBODY'S BACK TO THE TABLE.

>> YES. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PARKS PLANNING MANAGER, PUBLIC WORKS, ENGINEERING STAFF, PLANNING STAFF, ALL ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.

>> DO YOU-ALL SHOW UP TO THESE MEETINGS WITH A CHECKLIST OR IT'S SO INGRAINED IN YOUR MIND THAT YOU JUST KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR? HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT THAT?

>> I PERSONALLY DO KNOW THE REGULATIONS PRETTY WELL, SO I DON'T SHOW UP WITH A PARTICULAR CHECKLIST, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WE DO LOOK AT THE PLANS BEFORE WE EVEN SEND IT OUT TO THE REST OF THE DRC, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

EVERETT AND I REVIEW THEM BEFORE IT EVEN GETS ITS WAY TO OTHER STAFF MEMBERS, TRY TO VET IT.

>> THAT'S GREAT. I HEAR THEY ENJOY YOUR LEADERSHIP AND WORKING WITH YOU ON THAT, SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR IT.

THAT'S ALL I HAD. COUNCILMAN SAM, I'LL END WITH ONE LAST THING.

ON YOUR LAST PAGE, IT SAYS, HOW WILL THIS AFFECT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? THAT'S WHERE YOUR HEART IS AND YOUR PASSION. I LOVE IT.

I WOULD ALSO ADD ONE OTHER WORD, HOW WILL THIS PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU MORE ABOUT IT.

>> I GUESS I DO HAVE ONE THING.

SORRY. THE BILL WAS HB2 OR SOMETHING THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING, AND IT WAS JUST PASSED.

JUST A LITTLE BACK STORY.

COUNCILMAN CARVER, IT'S EITHER IT WAS YOU OR ELDEN THAT WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE WE CREATED TO REDO SOME OF THE ORDINANCES.

ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE WORKED ON WAS THE ENTRANCE WAYS.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT, LAUREN? WERE YOU HERE? CAN YOU COME BACK UP, THOUGH? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW IT.

>> WE'RE TESTING YOU, THOUGH. I'M JOKING.

>> WHENEVER I GOT ON AND WHENEVER A FEW OTHERS GOT ON, WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE A LOT OF RIGHT NOW.

WE, THE COUNCIL CREATED THIS COMMITTEE TO BEAUTIFY THE ENTRY WAYS.

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>> IN 2018, CITY COUNCIL HAD CREATED A NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN COMMITTEE, AND AT THE END OF THAT, IN 2019, THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS WERE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THAT.

THEN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AT THE END OF 2019, WE'VE AMENDED IT TWO OR THREE TIMES TO TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS TO UNDERSTAND.

>> BUT OUR ENTRY WAYS ARE 100% A LOT BETTER NOW FROM WHAT I SEE, BUT ALSO, AS SOON AS WE PASSED ALL THAT, BROUGHT IT INTO OUR ORDINANCES AND EVERYTHING.

HERE COMES HB 2.

>> 2852?

>> HUH?

>> I THINK IT WAS 2852.

>> YEAH. IT TOTALLY THREW A RANCH INTO EVERYTHING.

I LOVE ALL THIS.

I WANT TO SEE BIGGER LOTS AS WELL, I WANT TO SEE BIGGER HOUSES.

HERE'S HOW I SEE IT. WE STILL HAVE 45 ACRES TO GO.

>> SQUARE MILES.

>> SQUARE MILES. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

SORRY, I'M TIRED.

WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS I DON'T WANT TO BE ANOTHER MCKINNEY, AND I'LL JUST SAY THE NAME MCKINNEY, WITH A BUNCH OF MUDS, AND THEY ARE NOW FEELING THE PAIN OF ALL THOSE MUDS.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN HERE, BUT APPRECIATE ALL THE HOMEWORK FOR NOT GETTING PAID.

>> THANKS A LOT. APPRECIATE THAT.

>> IF IT'S OKAY, MAYOR, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP HERE FROM THIS FORWARD?

>> I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO NOW IS I WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS AND MAKE SOME COMPARISONS.

>> PERFECT.

>> TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THEN ASK STAFF TO LOOK AT WHAT PART OF THIS IS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE, WHAT CAN BE DONE, WHEN CAN IT BE DONE, WHAT TIME FRAME?

>> PERFECT. YOU GUYS PROBABLY WON'T GET DONE, BUT CAN WE MAYBE GET A STATUS UPDATE SOMETIME IN JANUARY JUST WHERE YOU GUYS ARE ON THE PROCESS? SORRY. THIS WAY, SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.

>> BE HAPPY TO DO THIS IN JANUARY.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> I'LL BE GOING THROUGH BEFORE JANUARY.

>> PERFECT.

>> THAT'S A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S APPRECIATED.

>> THANK YOU. GUYS, THANK YOU FOR BEING SO RECEPTIVE.

I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A BIG TOUCH POINT, BUT THIS MOVES ALL OF US CLOSER TO THE PROMISES THAT WE MADE TO MAKE ANNA A BETTER CITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS.

>> I JUST WANT TO CORRECT WHAT I SAID.

IT WAS HOUSE BILL 2439 THAT LIMITS MUNICIPALITY. I KNEW IT WAS IN THERE.

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE UP ANOTHER NUMBER LATER ON, ANYWAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> 0.12% OF ALL STATISTICS ARE MADE UP ON THE SPOT.

>> YES. THAT WILL CONCLUDE WORK SESSION.

TAKE US INTO CONSENT ITEMS.

[6. Consent Items]

ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH [INAUDIBLE] PRIOR TO A MOTION AND A VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ANY COUNCIL PERSON WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE?

>> I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM E.

>> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHERS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM A THROUGH D AND F THROUGH H.

>> I SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, CAST YOUR VOTES.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONSENT ITEM E,

[6.e. Approve a Resolution for the Acting City Manager to enter into a Contract with LT Sport Consulting to conduct a Facility Sports Feasibility Study. (Acting City Manager Marc Marchand)]

ACTING CITY MANAGER, MARC MARCHAND.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM FOR YOU IS TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING ASPECTS OF A POTENTIAL RECREATION FACILITY, SPORTS FIELDS, AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED BOTH IN THE PREVIOUS PARK MASTER PLAN, THE CURRENTLY BEING UPDATED PARK MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS THE 2021 BOND PROGRAM.

ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, STAFF HAD BEEN INITIALLY DIRECTED TO BEGIN A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

WE GOT ABOUT A THIRD INTO THE PROCESS OF THAT.

WE HAD FORMED A TASK FORCE WITH THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD.

THEY HAD STARTED VISITING OTHER FACILITIES AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, COMPARING THINGS THAT THEY LIKED AND WANTED TO BRING HERE AND THINGS OUR NEIGHBORS WERE ASKING FOR, BUT THEN WE HAD SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AT THE TIME THAT WE WANTED TO EXPLORE, AND SO STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO HIT THE BRAKES ON THAT AND TO HOLD OFF.

WELL, QUITE A BIT OF TIME HAS PASSED SINCE THEN.

WE HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY POTENTIALLY COMING UP THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME GOOD INFORMATION AND DATA SO THAT WE CAN MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT WORK, PICK THAT UP, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS INITIATIVE IS GOING TO DO.

WE'LL PICK UP THAT FEASIBILITY COMPONENT, DO ALL OF THE ANALYSIS,

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THEN ALSO WITH THE FEASIBILITY COMPONENT OF THAT, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A SPORTS COMPLEX AND THOSE THINGS THAT TIE INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, AND WHATNOT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT HOLISTICALLY.

>> WHAT COST ARE YOU LOOKING AT FOR THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY AND WHAT BUCKET OF MONEY IS THAT COMING FROM?

>> IT'S ABOUT $90,000 FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS WORTH OF WORK ON THIS.

IRONICALLY, THAT WAS ABOUT THE SAME AS WHAT WE HAD STARTED WITH THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

THE FUNDING FOR THIS COMES OUT OF OUR PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND.

CERTAINLY, IT WILL SUPPORT THE BOND FUND, BUT PARK DEVELOPMENT FUNDS AND PART PLANNING FOR FUTURE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES IS AN ALLOWABLE EXPENSE OUT OF THAT FUND, AND CURRENTLY, IT'S HEALTHY ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THAT.

>> IN A SENSE, THIS IS JUST PICKING UP WHERE YOU LEFT OFF?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ORIGINAL FUNDS?

>> THEY WERE ALLOCATED OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND, BUT THEY WEREN'T FULLY SPENT AT THE TIME.

>> I THINK WE ALL KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE STUDIES, BUT HERE'S THE BONUS.

IT WAS LAST MEETING.

WE JUST DID A COMMUNITY-WIDE SURVEY THAT TOOK AN HOUR TO GO THROUGH.

NO, TO DO THE SURVEY, NOT TO GO THROUGH HERE.

THEN WE CURRENTLY JUST WENT THROUGH A OR SHALL GO THROUGH A PARKS MASTER PLAN.

I ONLY ASSUME AND HOPE WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK HERE THAT CAN GO THROUGH THAT STUFF AND KNOW WHAT THESE NEIGHBORS WANT, OR THIS COUNCIL.

THERE'S ALREADY A NEED.

I DON'T WANT TO DELAY IT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS FOR ANOTHER STUDY.

THERE'S A NEED AND THERE'S MONEY AVAILABLE, AND THERE'S A WANT, AND THERE'S A TIME TO DO SOMETHING NOW.

I'LL STRAIGHT OUT BE HONEST.

I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR MORE FIELDS AND A REC CENTER POSSIBLY FOR SEVEN YEARS.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH LONGER UNTIL I'M DONE UP HERE.

I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE FIGHTING.

I'M NOT TAKING FULL CREDIT.

DON'T GO THERE. I SEE YOUR EYEBALLS.

I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THIS STUFF FOR MORE FIELDS.

THE FEASIBLE STUDY, I LEARNED THAT THERE'S 100 AND SOMETHING KIDS THAT DON'T EVEN GET TO PLAY SOCCER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FIELDS.

THERE'S PART OF YOUR STUDY.

THE POPULATION IS GROWING.

WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

IT'S WORKING THERE.

THERE'S CHANCES OF A PARTNERS DEAL TO BE MADE FOR BUILDINGS ALREADY EXISTING TO SAVE US MONEY.

I PERSONALLY DON'T NEED ANOTHER STUDY TO KNOW WHAT THIS CITY NEEDS.

WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING.

IT'S OUT THERE. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE NO MORE TIME, ESPECIALLY ANOTHER SIX MONTHS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER, WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE THE NUMBERS, WE ALREADY HAVE THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, WE ALREADY HAVE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AND PEOPLE SPOKE THERE.

WE KNOW WHAT'S NEEDED. LET'S GO.

>> COUNCILMAN TOTEN, I HEAR YOU, AND RESPECTFULLY, THIS IS NOT AN ARBITRARY REQUEST.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT WE HAVE STAFF THAT HAVE THE TALENT TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

I DO MYSELF, SO DOES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, ACTING DIRECTOR JEFF FREETH, OUR PARK PLANNING DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WHO'S BUILT THESE FACILITIES AS WELL, BUT WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS CAPACITY.

THERE'S A LOT OF PERFORMER WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE APPETITE FOR MEMBERSHIP FEES.

WHAT'S THE SUBSIDY GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR A FACILITY THAT IN ITS ANNUAL OPERATING COST? DOES IT INCLUDE AN AQUATICS PROGRAM? WHAT MECHANICAL GOES INTO IT, STAFFING, WHAT TYPE OF FEATURES, AMENITIES, WHATNOT? ALL OF THAT ANALYSIS.

THEN WHERE IS THE SUBSIDY GOING TO COME? IF WE'RE TARGETING MAYBE AN 80% COST RECOVERY ON A RECREATION FACILITY, THAT'S 20% HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.

YOU WANT THAT TO COME FROM PROBABLY SALES TAX, WHICH IS GOING TO BE MORE OF A REGIONAL COMPONENT AND BRING NEW DOLLARS IN TO HELP SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORS AND NOT BURDEN THEM WITH THE GENERAL FUND, BUT THOSE ARE TYPES OF THINGS THAT REALLY REQUIRE A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.

REALLY COMES DOWN TO CAPACITY AND TIME.

IN ORDER TO DO THIS WELL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE COMPILED ALL OF THAT DATA AND INFORMATION APPROPRIATELY, THEN WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND HAVE SOMEONE COME IN THAT HAS STAFF RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FASTER.

>> I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT OR CHALLENGING, BUT WHAT WE'RE OPERATING RIGHT NOW IS SUPER LATE AND MEAN, AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF.

A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE SEEN US BUILT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN PHASE ARE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED.

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SO THIS REALLY IS MORE COST-EFFECTIVE MATTER OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.

BUT I DO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT'S NOT HARD TO COME UP AND SAY THAT WE NEED MORE SPORTS FIELDS.

BUT HOW MANY? WHAT TYPE? WHERE? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS? BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR PERFORMA AND A-10-YEAR PERFORMA WITH THIS.

SAME THING WITH THE COMPLEX. IS IT EXPANDABLE? WHAT DO YOU WANT RACKET SPORTS? HOW MANY BASKETBALL COURSES DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT A SUSPENDED TRACK? WHAT TYPE OF PROGRAM DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT TO COMPETE IN THE MARKET AT SOME POINT, WHETHER YOU DO NOW OR IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE PREPARE FOR THAT? THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT NEED A DEEP DIVE.

>> I FULLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT.

TAGGING ON WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN TOTEN WAS SAYING, I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE SOME COMMITMENT THAT ONCE WE GET THE STUDY, THAT WE MOVE QUICKLY ON COME TO A SOLUTION.

>> I AGREE, COUNCILMAN, I APPRECIATE THAT.

ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD HAD WITH OUR NEIGHBORS DURING THE 2021 BOND WAS THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ASK FOR ENOUGH BOND CAPACITY TO CONSTRUCT A SPORTS COMPLEX OR CONSTRUCT A RECREATION FACILITY.

BUT WHAT WE WERE COMMITTED TO DOING WAS DOING THE WORK TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE AND EVEN GOING THROUGH CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL DO TOO.

WE'LL BASICALLY GO THROUGH AN ENTIRE MASSING PROJECT WHERE YOU'LL GET A RENDERING THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS WHAT A FACILITY THAT FOR US MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

THAT WOULD THEN INFORM OUR NEXT BOND ASK FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE'VE GONE DONE THE WORK.

HERE'S WHAT IT IS THAT WE'VE LEARNED.

HERE'S WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU IF YOU WANT TO BUILD, AND THEN LET THEM DECIDE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANT TO CONSTRUCT OR NOT, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM GOOD MATH.

>> MARK, I REALLY WISH I COULD COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT WORD BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR STUDY, I IMMEDIATELY EQUATE IT TO ANALYSIS PARALYSIS.

I WISH YOU WOULD CALL IT STAFF AUGMENTATION OR CHEAP LABOR OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T DISAGREE. YES. I ABSOLUTELY DON'T DISAGREE.

BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR STUDY, I'M READY FOR THIS KID TO TAKE THE FINAL EXAM, AND LET'S GET ON WITH THIS.

SO YOU COVERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

AS AS FAR AS THE OUTPUT OF THIS STAFF AUGMENTATION.

HOW LONG WILL THIS DATA BE VALID? AND WHO CAN ACT UPON IT AS FAR AS PEOPLE WILLING TO BUILD REC CENTERS, SPORTS COMPLEXES, ANY RECREATIONAL THING?

>> SO TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION IN OUR MARKET, IT IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE TO KEEP STATISTICALLY VALID DATA BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING SO RAPIDLY.

IF YOU IN FACT, AT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE GONE AROUND AND VISITED WITH VERY FEW THAT I TALKED TO HAVE LIVED HERE LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID THIS BOND PACKAGE.

SO A LOT HAS CHANGED IN THAT TIME PERIOD.

SO MOVING QUICKLY IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT VALID IS A GOOD THING.

WE DO HAVE DATA THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT WE NEED TO VALIDATE THAT AS WELL.

TO THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

APART FROM PARKS MASTER PLAN ENCOURAGES US TO LOOK FOR PARTNERS, WHETHER IT'S YOUTH SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS OR ITS OTHER PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT RUN THOSE TYPES OF OPERATIONS.

THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF GOOD EXAMPLES OUT IN THE MARKET OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS MISSION, AND THAT MAKES IT A WHOLE LOT MORE COST-EFFECTIVE, PALATABLE, AND ACHIEVABLE, MORE QUICKLY IN A LOT OF CASES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO EXPLORE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKING US FOR THAT SAME INFORMATION.

A LOT OF THE INFORMATION WE JUST DON'T HAVE YET.

>> SO THIS STUDENT IS ABOUT TO WALK OUT OF HERE WITH A DIPLOMA IN SIX MONTHS.

AND WE'RE ABLE TO PROACTIVELY TALK TO VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WANT TO ATTRACT TO THE CITY OF ANNA WITH SAID DIPLOMA, SAYING, HERE WE'RE READY, BRING IT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. AND I GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS ALONG WITH PARK STAFF.

SO WHEN WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THAT'S THE TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

THEY CAN DO A LOT OF THEIR OWN, BUT THEIRS IS FOR THEIR BUSINESS MODEL, AND OURS IS GOING TO BE FOR OUR BUSINESS MODEL.

WHERE DOES THAT CROSSOVER HAPPEN SO THAT WE GET THE BEST THING FOR OUR BUCK AND EVERYBODY WINS?

>> SO JUST TO THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE ON THAT.

IS THERE A MECHANISM ONCE THIS STUDY IS FINISHED THAT THE COUNCIL CAN AGREE UPON OR VOTE ON THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS GO FORWARD PERIOD, WHETHER AND NONE OF US ARE HERE OR THERE'S A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS DONE.

TO TOUCH ON WHAT, COUNCILMAN TOTEN SAID, HE AND I WERE BOTH BATTLING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS,

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AND NOT TO PAT THE GUY ON THE BACK, BUT THE WHOLE REASON HE GOT UP HERE IS BECAUSE WE WIPED OUT A BALLPARK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN SO WE COULD BUILD A PARK AND A MONUMENT AND PUT A TRAIN UP.

I GET THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S, PROGRESS.

BUT IT WAS THE CUTEST PRETTIEST LITTLE BALL FIELD IN THE WORLD, AND THERE WAS A WHOLE COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO COME UP AND TELL THE COUNCIL THAT THEY DISAGREED WITH THAT DECISION.

SO WITH THAT GOING FORWARD, THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A STICKING POINT, SOME RECREATION FACILITY.

WE'VE GOT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM US THAT HAVE BEAUTIFUL, WONDERFUL FACILITIES AND WHAT DO WE GOT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. AND I WILL ALSO, LIKE I SAY, WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED HERE DURING COVID IN THE SUMMER OF 2020, IT WAS COUNCILMAN TOTEN THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ADVOCATE AND GAVE ME A LOT OF BACKGROUND.

I'M FRANKLY GLAD THAT I MISSED THE CHALLENGE THAT CAME WITH THAT BALL FIELD CHANGING TO A DIFFERENT USE.

I HAVE EXPERIENCED SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, BUT THAT WAS A PIVOTAL MOMENT FOR US TO BE CLEAR.

AND THEN CHAMPIONING THIS CAUSE HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE DRIVEN, AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN VOICED AND REFLECTED THROUGH Y'ALL, COUNCILMAN CARVER, WHO'S BEEN THE PARK BOARD LIAISON, COUNCILMAN TOTEN WHO'S BEEN THE LIAISON, COUNCILMAN BAKER HAS ALSO DONE IT AS WELL.

SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT.

I MEAN, THERE'S A REASON WHY TONY HAWK CHOOSES TO COME AND VISIT US MORE OF OUR SKATE PARTS BECAUSE WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AND FROM THE COUNCIL.

SO THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY.

ONE IS THAT TO LOCK THIS DOWN.

WITH YOUR PARK MASTER PLAN.

WHEN YOU ADOPT THAT AS A COUNT, YOU'RE BASICALLY TELLING US THE DIRECTION AND YOU'RE SETTING THE POLICY FOR THE FUTURE OF THE PARKS.

THERE'S A LOT OF TIME INVESTED, A LOT OF MONEY INVESTED, GETTING OUR NEIGHBORS INPUTS, GETTING THE PARK BOARD, THEIR GUIDANCE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY GETTING YOUR APPROVAL AND YOUR GUIDANCE TO ADOPT IT INTO POLICY.

THE STAFF MISSION TO TRY TO IDENTIFY HOW DO WE GET THERE.

AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT.

PART OF THE REASON WHY AFTER ONLY ABOUT THREE YEARS, WE'RE HAVING TO UPDATE OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN IS BECAUSE WE'VE CONSTRUCTED SO MANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE IN IT SO QUICKLY.

SO THAT'S ONE IS WHEN WE GET THIS COMPLETED, INCLUDING AS PART OF THE PARKS MASTER PLAN UPDATE.

THE SECOND THING IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERING THE FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THIS.

NOW, IF THAT IS CALLING A BOND ELECTION, AT SOME POINT, WE JUST GONE THROUGH THE START OF OUR BUDGET CYCLE, AND AS YOU ALL WERE ADOPTING THE BUDGET, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR M&O SIDE OF THE TAX RATE AND OUR INS SIDE OF THE TAX RATE, AND OUR CAPACITY.

AND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT OUR NEW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, OR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, WORKING WITH THE ENTIRE TEAM IS DOING, THAT'S GOING TO LET GROWTH PAY FOR ITSELF.

SO THAT CAPACITY WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.

AND SO THE BEST TIME TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS YESTERDAY.

MY BUYING POWER TYPICALLY DOESN'T GO DOWN OVER TIME.

IT TYPICALLY GETS MORE EXPENSIVE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET A MODEL FOR ALL AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

AND JUST LIKE WITH THE OTHER PARK PROJECTS, WE'RE READY TO MOVE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PRUDENT, IT'S COST-EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT, AND YOU HAVE THE VERY BEST INFORMATION TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION.

>> ONE MORE SUGGESTION. WHAT IF WE WAITED TO DO TO VOTE ON THIS UNTIL AFTER WE MET WITH THE PARKS BOARD, OR WE CAN JUST PUT IT ON THAT AGENDA, AND WE'LL MAKE THE DECISION THAT NIGHT.

>> YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD. THAT'S YOUR [INAUDIBLE].

>> YOU ALSO ASKED THE COMPANY, LT, WHATEVER.

SPORTS CONSULTING, DO THEY HAVE A SHORT VERSION? INSTEAD OF A SIX MONTHS, THEY GOT 30 DAY.

>> BE ABSOLUTELY WELCOME TO DO THAT.

AND TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE QUICKLY.

WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO SLOW DOWN OUR PROGRESS, BUT WE DEPEND ON, I DEPEND ON YOUR GUIDANCE AND SETTING THE POLICY.

AND SO ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING AND MORE COMFORTABLE THAT WAY, OTHERWISE, WE'RE READY TO GO AND GET TO WORK.

>> I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE TRY TO MOVE ON THAT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

IF WE HAVE A VISION AND VELOCITY IS OUR GOAL.

I DON'T THINK DELAYING IT LIKE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID IS GOING TO MATTER.

GET THE JOB DONE, GET THE BALL ROLLING.

AND THEN ANY OF THE CONTACTS FROM PARKS OR ANY OF THESE OTHER BOARDS, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE FEASIBILITY TEAM TAKES THEM INTO CONSIDERATION MOVING FORWARD.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IN CORPORATE, WE HAVE INCENTIVE,

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IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT WE CAN EFFECTIVELY PUT IN THIS CONTRACT?

>> SO IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHY I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT.

BUILT INTO THIS PROGRAM IS A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT.

SO THE PARK BOARD WILL BE ENGAGED, OUR NEIGHBORS WILL BE ENGAGED.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THEM TIME SO THAT EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INCLUDED, AND WE CAN MONITOR THAT INPUT AS IT'S COMING IN BECAUSE IF IT'S COMING IN HOT AND HEAVY AND GREAT, WE'RE GETTING A GOOD HEALTHY STATISTICAL SAMPLE, WONDERFUL.

SOMETIMES WE DON'T AND SO WE NEED TO EXTEND IT, WE NEED TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IN ORDER TO GET MORE INPUT FROM OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO THAT TYPE OF THING WOULD BE ONE OF THE REASONS I WOULD HESITATE ABOUT PUTTING AN INCENTIVE TO DO IT FASTER.

BUT ABSOLUTELY, I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND IT COULD BE THAT IT'S ON OTHER ASPECTS, NOT ON ON THE COMMUNICATION INPUT PIECE.

>> LET ME SPLIT IN THE MIDDLE HERE BETWEEN WHAT COUNCILMAN TOTEN SAID AND WHAT SING HAD JUST SAID.

SINCE THE DEBOND IN 2021, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE POPULATION OF ANNA WAS IN 21, BUT AS OF JUNE OF 2025, CENSUS BUREAU SAYS, WE'RE AT 36,800 PEOPLE.

SO WHATEVER WE HAD INFORMATION IN 21 WHEN THAT BOND WENT THROUGH FOR THE STUDY, WE PROBABLY DOUBLED OR PRETTY CLOSE TO IT, AT LEAST.

SO GOING BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMAN TOTEN WAS SAYING ABOUT GOING BACK AROUND THROUGH PARKS BOARD AND BRINGING THAT, I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS.

WE NEED TO GET THE STUDY DONE BECAUSE AS JUST BEING GOOD STEWARD OF TAXPAYERS MONEY, WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A STUDY THAT'S NOT 5-YEARS-OLD.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS.

[NOISE] SO I KNOW YMCA PARK IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU GUYS KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND WHENEVER WE GO THROUGH THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY.

ALSO WITH THE DALLAS STARS, IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THE M&O?

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

>> BUT THAT'S GOING TO APPLY.

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RESOLUTION TO DO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS ON TRACK.

>> SO BECAUSE ANOTHER THING THAT COMES DOWN TO IS, LET ME KNOW IF THIS APPLIES OR NOT IS WE CONSIDERED M&O COSTS? I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED FULL TIME EMPLOYEES TO TAKE CARE OF THIS BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITH NEEDS.

I THINK SOME OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS WERE REQUESTING SOME EXTRA FUNDS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THAT IN THE TOP OF OUR MIND THAT YES, PARKS ARE IMPORTANT, TOO, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE STILL HAVE SERVICES AND OTHER M&O FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

SO SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY THOUGHTFUL IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE THIS PLACE, BECAUSE IT'S ALSO GOING TO PUT A BURDEN ON OUR PUBLIC SERVICE SECTOR AS WELL WITH FIRE AND POLICE HAVING TO RESPOND TO ANY INJURIES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT.

>> ON THE MORE REASON WE NEED THE STUDY.

>> OUTSIDE OF THAT, I'M FINE WITH CONSIDERING THIS, BUT AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH THE STARS ONE, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU.

>> CLARK, IF I MAY MAKE A MOTION, I NEED TO TABLE THIS TILL THE NEXT MEETING, NOT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THE NIGHT OF THE 17TH CARRY.

THE PARKS JOINT MEETING.

I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT IN FEBRUARY. I MEAN, NOVEMBER?

>> I THINK WE JUST MOVE FORWARD.

WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO SAY, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

IF WE'RE BASING INFORMATION ON FIVE YEARS AGO, WE NEED GOOD STUDY.

SO IF WE PUT IT OFF A COUPLE MORE WEEKS, THAT'S JUST PUSHING.

>> SO YOU WANT TO SPEND ANOTHER $95,000.

>> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE.

SINCE THE LAST TIME WE'VE LOOKED, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE NUMBERS FROM THE STUDY, BUT SINCE THEN WE'VE DOUBLED IN POPULATION.

WE'VE MORE THAN DOUBLED. I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE 60.

>> I SECOND UP.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ITEM SIX C, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, CAST YOUR VOTES.

MOTION PASSES 6: 1 TAKES US TO INDIVIDUALS ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, WHICH WE HAVE NONE IN AGENDA ITEM 7.

FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I HAVE NOTHING THERE.

AND THAT TAKES US TO CLOSED SESSION. AGENDA ITEM NINE.

[9. Closed Session (Exceptions)]

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EXCUSE ME, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.072, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.087 AND TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.074. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?

>> I MOVE TO GO INTO CLOSED.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE IN CLOSED SESSION AT 7:41 P.M. AND THIS WILL BE A LONG CLOSED SESSION.

IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON WAITING FOR US, IT'S GOING TO BE A MINUTE.

ALL RIGHT, 906, WE'RE OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.

I'LL MAKE THAT 907.

SEEING NO OBJECTION. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.