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[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]
THE TIME IS NOW 6:02 P.M. WE ARE MISSING COMMISSIONER HERMANN AND COMMISSIONER LONGMIRE.DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE CENTER OURSELVES IN GRATITUDE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, MAY WE COME TOGETHER IN THE SPIRIT OF SERVICE, GUIDED BY WISDOM, WITH OPEN HEARTS AND CLEAR MINDS.
EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A NEIGHBOR'S INQUIRY, OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? OKAY, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MS.
[4. Planning Manager's Report]
MECKE FOR THE PLANNING MANAGER'S REPORT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. SO AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT WILL BE COMING FORTH TO YOU BECAUSE IT IS A ZONING ACTION.IF WE WERE TO ADOPT A HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND SO MORE INFORMATION WILL COME ON THAT.
ALSO AT THAT MEETING, THE COYOTE MEADOWS ZONING CASE WAS APPROVED.
AND THEN AT THE 1ST MEETING IN AUGUST THE TRINITY CREEK ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED, AND THERE WAS 2 REQUESTS FOR A RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION.
WHAT THAT IS, IS RELATED TO HOUSING TAX CREDITS FROM THE STATE.
COUNCIL WAS PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT NOT MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.
AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THIS MONTH. THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6 ON OUR AGENDA FOR CONSENT ITEMS.
[6. Consent Items.]
AT THIS TIME. DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO PULL AN ITEM FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? NOTHING I'D LIKE TO PULL, BUT LAUREN CAN JUST MAKE A COMMENT WHEN WE PASS THIS ALONG TO COUNCIL.THAT ITEM E IS THE 3RD MCDONALD'S WITHIN, LIKE A 2 MILE RADIUS FOR THE CITY.
IT SEEMS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE. I KNOW IT'S A KIND OF MEETS THE STANDARDS, AND IT'S ALL ALLOWABLE UNDER C1 AND WHATNOT, BUT JUST CAN WE PUT AN ASTERISK BY IT THAT WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS, OR AT LEAST I DO.
IT'S THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE 2 OF THEM ON THE EXACT SAME ROAD.
THAT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE OBSESSIVE. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT OTHER AREAS THAT ANNA THAT CAN BUILD OUT DOWN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEST SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE OR SOME ETJ AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE KIND OF HOT SPOTS. I JUST THINK IT'S UNNECESSARY TO HAVE THEM BOTH THERE, BUT FOR EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE AND LISTENING, IT IS WITHIN THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND IT DOES MEET THAT FOR THE C1.
OKAY. WELL I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6 A THROUGH 6 F SECOND.
AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
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THE VOTING IS NOT SHOWING UP EITHER ONE OF YOU CAN'T SEE IT. OKAY, LET'S GET ON AND DO A ROLL CALL.COMMISSIONER MARTIN. YES. COMMISSIONER DEJARNETTE.
YES. COMMISSIONER VOLLMER. YES. COMMISSIONER STEWARD.
YES. I'M A YES AS WELL. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[7. Items For Individual Consideration and Public Hearings.]
LET'S MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND PUBLIC HEARINGS.ITEM A. CONSIDER/DISCUSS/ACTION ON A RESOLUTION REGARDING BENGAL C STORE, BLOCK 1, LOT 1, PRELIMINARY PLAT . OWNER IS MR. RAHMAN.
SO THIS PLAT IS LOCATED AT THE END OF 455 WHERE IT STARTS TO TURN SOUTH HERE.
AS WELL AS THE PLAT STATES, THERE WILL BE NO WELL ON THE PROPERTY.
ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WANT TO SPEAK? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS THOUGHTS? MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, IS THEY CAN'T GET WATER.
HOW DO THEY PLAN ON OPENING A BUSINESS ON THAT PROPERTY? SO WITHOUT WATER, I WOULD MOTION FOR DENIAL. SECOND.
POPULAR. I'LL GIVE THAT ONE TO COMMISSIONER VOLLMER.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S TRY VOTING AGAIN. OKAY.ALL RIGHT. WE'LL ROLL CALL IT. COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
NO. COMMISSIONER DEJARNETTE. NO. COMMISSIONER VOLLMER.
JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE VOTING NO. AS IN LIKE YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
I'M SORRY. YOU'RE VOTING IN NO. IN DENIAL. YOU'RE VOTING NO AGAINST THE MOTION TO DENY.
IN AGREEMENT TO DENY. OKAY, I AGREE WITH THAT.
COMMISSIONER STEWARD. GO AHEAD. YEAH. THE MOTION BEFORE THE THE COMMISSION IS TO DENY.
SO A VOTE OF YES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE WILL REJECT THE PLAT.
LET'S DO ROLL CALL AGAIN. COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
YES. COMMISSIONER DEJARNETTE. YES. COMMISSIONER VOLLMER.
YES. COMMISSIONER STEWARD. YES. I'M A YES AS WELL.
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM B CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING/CONSIDER/DISCUSS/ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE REGARDING A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A AUTO REPAIR, LIGHT ON ROSAMOND CROSSING, SOUTHEAST CORNER, BLOCK A, LOT 2, SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SO THIS ITEM IS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A, VALVOLINE THERE ON THE ROSAMOND SOUTHEAST CORNER DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN THEY'VE PROVIDED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. THAT WHOLE AREA IS ZONED C-2 COMMERCIAL WHICH THE VALVOLINE DOES IT FITS IN THE C-2 ZONE. PROVIDED THE SUP PASSES LOOKING AROUND, IT'S ALL COMMERCIAL AROUND IT.
SURROUNDING THE VALVOLINE. THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
WE JUST SAY OR SORRY, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE SITE SHALL DEVELOP WITH IN ACCORDANCE WITH EXHIBIT B OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AT THIS TIME, DOES ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? [INAUDIBLE] OKAY. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC GEARING AT 6:11 P.M.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WISH TO SPEAK? YES.
I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL. OKAY.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND COMPANY FOR THE RECORD.
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HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KELSEY KREHER. MY ADDRESS IS 1705 SOUTH WALTON BOULEVARD IN BENTONVILLE, ARKANSAS. 72712. WE ARE REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR VALVOLINE.I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION. I WANT TO TALK A BIT ABOUT THE BUSINESS MODEL OF VALVOLINE.
IT'S A DRIVE THROUGH OIL CHANGE FACILITY, SO NO VEHICLES ARE LEFT ON SITE.
FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME. OUR CUSTOMERS STAY IN THEIR CAR WHILE THE SERVICES ARE PERFORMED.
I'VE PROVIDED A SITE PLAN WHICH IS ALSO IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT UP THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY SO YOU CAN SEE ON IT HOW THE CUSTOMERS ENTER THE BAYS. THEY PARK IN THERE WHILE THE SERVICE IS PERFORMED, WHICH TAKES ABOUT 15 OR 20 MINUTES, AND THEN THEY EXIT. JUST A FEW OTHER DETAILS ON THE BUSINESS.
TYPICAL BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY ARE 8 A.M.
TO 7 P.M. SATURDAY, 9 A.M. TO 6 P.M. AND SOME LIMITED HOURS ON SUNDAY.
THE PARKING ON SITE THAT YOU SEE IS FOR THE EMPLOYEES ONLY, AS I MENTIONED, THE BUSINESS MODEL.
AND THIS IS OUR BUILDING THAT WE WILL BE PROPOSING AT THIS LOCATION.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BUSINESS OR YOU, SIR? REQUEST.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE IT'S LOCATED ON ROSAMOND PARKWAY? YES.
ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO.
OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:14 P.M.
AND CONFINE COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF.
ANY COMMISSIONERS? HAVE ANY COMMENTS? PRETTY CUT AND DRY.
IT MEETS ALL THE GUIDELINES FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.
IT DOES MATCH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MOVING FORWARD, SO I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO IT.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD LOCATION ON 75. OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT, COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
SO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER MARTIN. CAN I GET A SECOND? I SECOND.
AND I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DJARNETTE.
WE'LL DO ROLL CALL AGAIN, COMMISSIONER MARTIN. YES.
COMMISSIONER DEJARNETTE. YES. COMMISSIONER VOLLMER.
YES. COMMISSIONER STEWARD. YES. I'M A YES AS WELL.
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ITEM C ON THE AGENDA.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING/CONSIDER/DISCUSS/ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE REGARDING A REQUEST TO ZONE 15.2 PLUS ACRES AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF W. FOSTER CROSSING ROAD & S. POWELL PARKWAY. THIS ITEM IS ASSOCIATED WITH A SKILLED NURSING CENTER. IT'S A MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ANCHOR AND BUILD THE NURSING FACILITY, AND THEN WILL SELL OFF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY TO C2.
AND WITH THAT, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO RESTRICT THE USES THAT ARE ON THE SITE.
IT'S INTENDED TO BE A MEDICAL OFFICE AREA, SO THEREFORE THEY DON'T WANT CERTAIN USES ON THE SITE.
THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS AS EMPLOYMENT MIX.
SO THIS GOES PERFECTLY ALONG WITH THAT, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES TO THE NOTIFICATIONS SENT OR FROM THE NEW SIGNS THAT THEY POSTED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:16 P.M.
DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? LAUREN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AND THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES? SO THE ONE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP IS AT THE 4.9 ACRE ONE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER.
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CORRECT. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED SELLING OFF OR LIKE GETTING DEVELOPERS INVOLVED FOR THEIR REMAINING PARCELS.SO IT'S SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN IS THREE DEVELOPABLE LOTS WITH THE TWO DETENTION PONDS.
SO THE OTHER 2 LOTS. I BELIEVE THEY WILL NOT BE DEVELOPING.
THEY'RE JUST FOCUSED ON THE NURSING CENTER ITSELF.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LIST OF THE THE, EXCLUSIONS.
YEAH. AND SO THE PLAN IS TO KEEP IT A MLB MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING. CORRECT.
OKAY. LAUREN, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS IF WE'RE GOOD WITH IT BEING A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, CAN WE PUT THAT IN OUR MOTION FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL, WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES, TO HOLD IT TO WHERE IT'S ONLY MEDICAL OR IF WE APPROVE IT, IS IT JUST GOING TO BE THESE PROHIBITED USES THAT CAN'T BE IN THERE? THE ONLY REASON WHY WE DID NOT GET THAT SPECIFIC IS JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT SOMETIMES MEDICAL OFFICE COMPLEXES DON'T ALWAYS HAVE MEDICAL USES IN THEM.
SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO HAVE ANCILLARY BUSINESSES, RETAIL BUSINESSES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY FALL UNDER THAT MEDICAL OFFICE DEFINITION.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YEAH. COME ON DOWN. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE COMPANY YOU'RE WITH, PLEASE.
ASHLEY JOHNSON, 5050 CAPITAL AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS, 97226.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO PRESENT FOR US, OR ARE YOU HERE FOR QUESTIONS? NOPE, JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS. REALLY WANTED TO HONE IN ON THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITY ITSELF. I KNOW THAT THE KIND OF NORTHERN DFW AREA IS DEFINITELY IN NEED OF THIS USE IN THE AREA. AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD AREA JUST TO ACTIVATE THIS 15 ACRES REQUESTING FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AS WELL.
AGAIN, LIKE LAUREN MENTIONED, REALLY DRIVEN TOWARDS THE MEDICAL OFFICE USE IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS A GOOD ANCILLARY PURPOSE TO THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITY AS WELL. AND ANY OTHER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE FOR ME.
I JUST HAD A QUESTION. CAN YOU DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT A SKILLED NURSING FACILITY IS LIKE? ITS INTENDED USE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE GETTING BENEFITS FROM THIS FACILITY, ETC..
YEAH IT IS. AND YOU MIGHT DO A BETTER JOB OF ANSWERING THIS IF YOU WANT.
BECAUSE IN MY HEAD, FOR SOME REASON I'M THINKING LIKE NURSING HOME OR REHABILITATION CENTER.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANT SOME CLARITY ON THAT. BUT IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL, FOR THE RECORD. YEAH. SHANE LEWIS, 4515 HARRYS LANE, DALLAS. AND I AM THE OWNER OPERATOR. SO WE ARE OWNER OCCUPYING THIS LOCATION, THIS BUILDING.
WE'RE NOT JUST A DEVELOPER. SO WE DO DEVELOP AND THEN WE OPERATE THE FACILITY INSIDE AS WELL.
SO, WE HAVE 15 LOCATIONS LIKE THIS. MOST CLOSEST IS PRINCETON, ALSO IN FARMERSVILLE.
THE PRINCETON BUILDING WOULD BE VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE DESIGNED HERE.
AND SKILLED NURSING REALLY TODAY DEALS WITH POST-ACUTE CARE.
PEOPLE COMING DIRECTLY OUT OF THE HOSPITAL THAT CAN'T GO HOME.
WE HAVE PHYSICIANS, PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THERAPISTS, NURSING.
IT'S A VERY, VERY CLINICAL MODEL. WE AND WE ALSO DO SOME LONG TERM CARE AS WELL.
WE MAY ACTUALLY DEVELOP THEM OURSELVES. WE DO.
SO AGAIN OUR FARMERSVILLE. THAT'S NOT TRUE. FARMERSVILLE.
PRINCETON HAD A LITTLE BIT OF THE SAME TYPE OF ELEMENT.
SO IN THE PAST WE HAVE DEVELOPED THOSE OURSELVES.
AND SO WE'RE NOT SURE HERE, BUT WE DO THINK IT'S IT SETS UP VERY, VERY NICELY FOR KIND OF A MEDICAL HUB, WHICH TENDS TO SORT OF SURROUND US JUST GENERAL PRACTITIONERS PURE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE KIND OF STANDALONE KIND OF CLINIC DOC CLINICS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEVELOP AROUND US.
THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE KIND OF LAID IT OUT. SO POTENTIALLY WE COULD LOOK AT LIKE THE MEDICAL OFFICES.
I'M JUST GOING TO THROW OUT AN EXAMPLE LIKE THE ONES OFF OF 380 IN MCKINNEY.
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THERE'S LIKE A BIG BANK OF LIKE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS THAT HAS A LOT OF MEDICAL, YOU KNOW, LIKE PSYCHOLOGY THERAPY, PHYSICAL THERAPY, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT MEDICAL NEEDS.ALSO, SOME STORES WHERE YOU CAN LIKE GET BRACES AND WALKERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT POTENTIALLY WOULD BE COMING IN HERE.
SO WE'RE PRETTY DANG PARTICULAR YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING THIS IS A $22-$23 MILLION BUILDING WITH A LOT OF EMPLOYEES, A LOT OF STAFF, A LOT OF PATIENTS. SO THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC THINGS WE DON'T WANT CLOSE TO US.
KIND OF LIKE IF YOU RENT A HOUSE VERSUS OWN YOUR HOUSE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT YOU WANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH YOU. SO THERE'S CERTAINLY ONLY USES WE WANT KIND OF QUOTE UNQUOTE, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE MIGHT NEED AS WE START TO DEVELOP OUR SELL THAT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, THAT WE MAY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF LATITUDE AND WHAT GOES THERE.
BUT WE'RE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO THERE.
BUT WE DO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO THERE.
BUT TO HAVE A VERY CLEAR LIST OF ITEMS THEY CAN'T PUT THERE.
YEAH. BUT Y'ALL HAVE THE DEPTH TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND THE KNOWLEDGE YOU'LL HAVE THE DEPTH TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, AND YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD IT OUT AND KNOW WHAT YOU WANT.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH FOR WHAT YOU KNOW YOU WANT AND YOU DON'T WANT. YEAH, I THINK WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, JUST SPEAKING VERY TRANSPARENTLY, IS THAT THE SECTION TO THE NORTH THAT WILL PROBABLY BE BEST IN THE HANDS OF GUYS THAT REALLY DEVELOP THOSE KIND OF KIND OF SINGLE OCCUPANCY TYPE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND FIND A DEVELOPER THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
AND THERE ARE A COUPLE IN THE DALLAS AREA THAT THEY REALLY KIND OF HONE IN ON THAT. AND WE DO HAVE CONVERSATIONS GOING WITH THOSE SHOP BEING ONE OF THOSE, IF YOU KNOW THOSE GUYS AROUND, THEY HAVE A WHOLE DIVISION THAT DEALS WITH THOSE.
THEY ALSO ARE CO-TENANTS WITH THE SENATE BUILDING.
SO WE DO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. THE 3 PARCELS IN THE FRONT MY GUESS IS WE WILL HOLD THOSE AND DEVELOP PROBABLY DEVELOP THOSE OURSELVES OVER TIME. KIND OF FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS EVEN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING TO THE NORTH IS VERY IMPORTANT.
BUT THE ONES IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, REALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF DOES THE ESTHETIC REALLY MARRY UP WELL WITH THE BUILDING? BUT EVERYTHING THAT GOES IN THERE KIND OF HAS A RESIDENTIAL LOOK AND FEEL.
YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S MASONRY, IT'S LOW ROOF LINES.
IT'S NOT MULTI-STORY INCLUDING OUR BUILDING. AND SO WE WOULDN'T WANT ANYTHING IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGAIN, OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DIDN'T TIE IN VERY, VERY WELL WITH US AS KIND OF THE ANCHOR TENANT THERE.
COMMISSIONERS ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I KNOW I'VE KIND OF BEEN A MIC HOG, SO.
I'M THE VOICE OF REASON UP HERE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.
YEAH. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS.
OKAY I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:25 P.M.
AND CONFINE COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF.
THOUGHTS ON LOCATION GUYS, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANT TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, IS EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA THAT THIS IS GOING IN? I PERSONALLY AM KIND OF GLAD TO SEE IT. I FEEL LIKE THAT CORNER, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MELISSA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BEING THERE, THE TRAFFIC HAS GOTTEN A 100 TIMES WORSE THAN IT WAS, AND I FEEL LIKE I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE AS BAD WITH WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN THERE, SO I'M HAPPY WITH IT. WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT? I JUST HAD A QUESTION WHETHER IT WOULD BE LINKED TO ANY PUBLIC.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, ANY HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS LIKE THE TEXAS HEALTH OR THE BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE, COULD WE SEE THAT COMING IN THE FUTURE AS WELL? I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS OPEN FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF THEY PROCEED DOWN THAT AVENUE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DENY THAT AS BEING ONE OF THE USES.
BUT, I MEAN, WITH WHAT WE'RE APPROVING TONIGHT WOULD BE TO APPROVE.
AND Y'ALL, LAUREN, ANYBODY JUMP IN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WOULD BE TO APPROVE THEIR BUILDING THAT'S LOCATED ON THE 4.9 WITH THEM BECAUSE IT'S LIKE PRELIMINARY, RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD COME IN THE NORTH AND WHAT WOULD COME IN ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. OKAY. AND LIKE THEY SAID, THEY MAY DO A FUTURE BUILD OUT ON THE ONES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THEM ON THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE WON'T KNOW, BUT IT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF US.
CORRECT? CORRECT. SITE PLANS WILL COME THROUGH LATER.
IN THIS PD, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN TYING DOWN THE SKILLED NURSING CENTER LOT, BUT KIND OF LEAVING THE REST OF IT A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN TO CHANGES IN THE FUTURE, JUST SINCE THEY'RE NOT ENTIRELY SURE HOW IT'S GOING TO DEVELOP.
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DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY. I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF THIS LAND, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT MEETS THE EMPLOYMENT MIX.YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD POINT. ALL RIGHT. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STEWARD. COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
YES. COMMISSIONER DEJARNETTE. YES. COMMISSIONER VOLLMER.
YES. COMMISSIONER STEWARD. YES. I'M A YES AS WELL.
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM D, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING/CONSIDER/DISCUSS/ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ARTICLE 9.04 (ZONING ORDINANCE) OF THE CITY OF ANNA CODE OF ORDINANCES. SO AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL A LIST OF ITEMS THAT BETWEEN CHANGES IN THE STATE LAW AS WELL AS THINGS THAT STAFF HAS DISCOVERED OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS.
JUST SOME CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT'S AS YOU KNOW, AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS LAST REPEALED IN PLACE IN AUGUST OF 2023.
AND THEN WE MADE A SLIGHT CHANGE WITH THE SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE.
THEN OVER THE LAST 2 LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS THE STATE HAS CHANGED HOW NOTICES HAVE TO BE DONE FOR THE ZONING SIGNS AS WELL AS CERTAIN NOTICES DEPENDING ON LAND USE OR THE TIMING OF WHEN THOSE NOTICES GO OUT.
SO WE HAVE PROPOSED SEVERAL CHANGES. I CAN WALK THROUGH EACH ONE IF YOU WANT TO OR IF THERE'S ANYONE IN PARTICULAR YOU WANT TO DISCUSS, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU. COMMISSIONERS.
ALSO DID AN UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT THIS 1ST PAGE IS SHOWING.
I SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO SEE THE ONE ABOUT THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
ALONG WAS THAT HIGHWAY 5? I THINK THAT WAS CHANGING, IF YOU CAN.
KEEPING SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS AWAY FROM THE HIGHWAYS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
1 THING THAT WE DID NOT REALIZE WAS THAT POWELL PARKWAY WAS INCLUDED IN THAT.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN POWELL PARKWAY'S.
YOU KNOW, IT'S 1200 FEET. WHAT THAT WAS INTENDED FOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE KEEPING SINGLE FAMILY AWAY FROM 75 AND COLLIN COUNTY OUTER LOOP AND 121, NOT POWELL PARKWAY. POWELL PARKWAY AT THE MAXIMUM WILL BE 4 LANES.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE STOPLIGHTS IN THE FUTURE, WHEREAS 121 COLLIN COUNTY OUTER LOOP AND 75 ARE MASSIVE HIGHWAYS THAT ARE MOVING MULTIPLE CARS AT A TIME. COMMISSIONERS YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE? DID YOU ALL HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? THERE'S QUITE A FEW THAT ARE CHANGING.
ANY THAT Y'ALL WANT TO JUST PULL OUT AND NOTATE FOR THE PUBLIC? SO I CAN DO A BRIEF GIST OF WHAT EACH SLIDE HAS.
YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THE REVIEW. YEAH.
SO ON THIS 1ST SLIDE THERE'S 3 THINGS THAT ARE REALLY COVERED.
IT'S REMOVING THE LINE ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE CHARACTER AND INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BECAUSE WE DID THAT MASSIVE UPDATE TO THE COMP PLAN, THERE WAS DIFFERENT.
THERE WAS CHANGES IN THE PLACE TYPES. WE FIND IT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE EASIER JUST TO REMOVE THAT LINE FROM EACH ZONING DISTRICT, RATHER THAN CHANGING IT EVERY TIME THE COMP PLAN CHANGES.
BEFORE YOU GO ON THERE WITH THE PARKWAY AND STATE HIGHWAY 5, IS IT BEING A MASTER THOROUGHFARE? IT RUNS THROUGH DOWNTOWN. WE'VE ALREADY MADE MOST OF DOWNTOWN COMMERCIAL MOVING NORTH UP FROM THERE.
YOU STILL HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S COMING IN. IS IT BENEFICIAL TO KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL CLOSE TO THERE OR TO ALLOW THAT, OR IS IT A PLACE THAT'S BEING VIEWED AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WHERE IT'S ALREADY STARTING TO BECOME A LOT OF COMMERCIAL, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE? THAT IS A BIT CHALLENGING. I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, MOST OF THE PROPERTIES ALONG POWELL PARKWAY NORTH ARE DEVELOPED.
IT'S MORE OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH THAT ARE NOT THERE'S VERY FEW PROPERTIES AS YOU MOVE NORTH THAT AREN'T ALREADY ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE PROXIMITY WITH THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
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BUT THEN THAT'S STILL WITHIN 1200 FEET OF CAMDEN PARK NORTH POINT CROSSING.THERE ISN'T A WHOLE LOT OF VACANT LAND ALONG THAT AREA EITHER.
AS YOU GO NORTH. OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE MUCH FROM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN GENERAL.
JUST ADDING IT IN THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. THE ONLY ADDITIONAL ONE ON THIS PAGE.
WE HAD CHANGED THE WAY WE WRITE MULTIFAMILY OUT FROM A HYPHEN TO NO HYPHEN.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME AREAS WHERE IT DOES MAKE SENSE FOR A DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT.
AND SO WHEN WE COMPLETELY HAD REMOVED IT. IT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE.
AND THEN ON THIS PAGE, WE HAD KEPT THE STACKING SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT THAT WE HAD CREATED BACK IN WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN 2020. FOR SOME REASON, THE STACKING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES GOT REMOVED.
AND SO I CONSOLIDATED THAT INTO THE PARKING SECTION.
AND THEN. UNDER THE STEP BACK REGULATIONS I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT IF SOMEONE WERE TO DO A ROOFTOP PATIO TO MAKE SURE THAT A MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX COULDN'T BUILD A ROOFTOP PATIO WITHIN THAT SETBACK ZONE.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS SAYING UNDER NUMBER 2 THIS SLIDE HAS ALL OF THE STACKING REQUIREMENTS.
AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH VERBATIM WHAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE SAID PREVIOUSLY.
AND THEN UNDER THE LANDSCAPING SECTION, WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES LATELY WITH AT THE END OF A PARKING ROW, HAVING A TREE AT THE END. ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE AT HOME DEPOT.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A TREE IMPEDING THE ADA SPACES.
AND THEN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES FIRE DEPARTMENT LIKES TO HAVE A FIRE HYDRANT CLOSE TO THE BUILDING.
FIRE HYDRANTS AND TREES DON'T REALLY GO TOGETHER.
BUT NOBODY KNEW WHAT THAT MEANT. AND I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM DEVELOPERS.
AND SO WE ARE DEFINING IT HERE NOW. AND THEN ALSO WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
AGAIN, LIKE THE BUILD 2 ZONES, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUILDING ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU CAN'T HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER. AND THEN UNDER THE TREE PRESERVATION SECTION SO THERE'S A SECTION WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE THAT TALKS ABOUT TREES THAT WERE PRESERVED.
I DON'T WANT AN 8 INCH HACKBERRY COUNTING AS A PRESERVED TREE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS FENCING SECTION IS ABOUT.
IT'S TALKING ABOUT ANYWHERE THAT NOT NECESSARILY A SIDEWALK, BUT SOMEWHERE THAT KIDS ARE PLAYING WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE GROUPS OF PEOPLE, THAT THERE'S FENCES. THIS NEXT SECTION, THE AUTHORITY TABLE, THIS ALL COMES FROM LEGISLATIVE CHANGES OVER THE
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LAST 2 YEARS. SO THERE ARE CERTAIN TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT IF WE WERE TO CHANGE, A LAND USE AND THE PROPERTY WILL BECOME A NONCONFORMING USE IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT. WE HAVE TO SEND THEM A SPECIFIC NOTICE.SO. THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING WITH ANNEXATIONS.
THE NEXT SECTION IS RELATED TO THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SIGNS.
OUR APPLICANTS TONIGHT WERE VERY GENEROUS IN WORKING WITH ME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE PROPER NOTICES BECAUSE OUR SIGNS DID NOT MEET THE STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE. THE STATE ALSO REQUIRES THAT WE PUT UP THE SIGNS BEFORE THE P&Z MEETING INSTEAD OF BEFORE COUNCIL, WHICH I KNOW COMMISSIONER LONGMIRE LIKES.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STATE LAW ALLOWS. IT'S JUST CONFUSING.
WHY NOT BE BOA. WITH SOME OF THE INFORMATION ON THE BOA CHANGE IF THE CHARTER REVIEW GOES THROUGH IN THE FALL. QSOME OF THESE ITEMS. I'M SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN.
WE HAVE THE CHARTER REVIEW THAT WAS COMPLETED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING ON. THE BOND OR GOING UP TO GO VOTE IN NOVEMBER.
IS THAT CORRECT FOR CHARTER REVIEW CHANGES? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT I SEE LISTED HERE, I BELIEVE WOULD BE AFFECTED WITH SOME OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMENTS THAT ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION AND CHANGE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TERMS OF.
03, 4, 5, 6. YEAH. SO AS PART OF YOUR MOTION, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EDIT.
I'M JUST ASKING, LIKE IF WE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, LET'S SAY THE CHARTER REVIEW GOES THROUGH IN THE FALL, IT PASSES FROM THE TAXPAYERS. EVERYBODY AGREES WITH IT.
WOULD THAT SUPERSEDE WHAT WE PASSED TONIGHT? THAT'S THE CHARTER SUPERSEDES THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
OKAY. DOES IT MATTER UNDER THE BOA WHERE IT CHANGED IT TO 7 MEMBERS.
BUT THEN NUMBER 3. ONLY LAST 5 OF THEM WITH THEIR TERMS. WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THAT. WOULD THE TERMS BE SIMILAR TO A P&Z? YES. LIKE THE ROTATION. SHOULD WE MAKE THAT NOTATION NOW PRIOR TO MAKING A MOTION.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT THERE OTHER THAN THAT ITEM NUMBER3, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD DIFFER FROM THE UNEXPIRED TERMS TO 2 YEARS. IS THAT THE OTHER ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SORRY I INTERRUPTED YOUR FLOW THAT YOU HAD GOING.
THE NEXT ITEM IS WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF FRONTAGE BUILD OUT.
I TOOK THIS DEFINITION FROM ANOTHER CITY THAT HAD IT EXPLAINING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
NOBODY KNEW WHAT THAT MEANT. SO WHY RECREATE THE WHEEL WHEN THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE A DEFINITION? AND THAT'S THE END OF THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:41 P.M.
ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE HIT HER AS WE WERE GOING.
SO. ANY OTHER ONES? DOES A I'M ASSUMING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
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SO I THINK THE ONLY COMMENT THAT WE REALLY HAD WAS REGARDING 9.04.074 FOR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.ITEM NUMBER 3 ONLY REFERS TO A TOTAL OF 5 MEMBERS.
THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CHANGED TO REFLECT 7. OTHER THAN THAT, COMMISSIONERS, YOU GUYS HAVE ANY THING ELSE THAT YOU SAW THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED? A LOT OF THEM ARE DUPLICATIONS, JUST AS THEY WERE GOING THROUGH SOME HOUSE CLEANING.
I HAVE NOTHING OTHER THAN THAT CHANGE. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT SECTION 3 OF 9.04.082. SORRY WRONG ONE. 9.04.074 FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS BE CHANGED TO REFLECT 7 MEMBERS AND NOT 5.
SECOND. OKAY, I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VOLLMER.
ALL RIGHT, ROLL CALL, COMMISSIONER MARTIN. YES.
COMMISSIONER DEJARNETTE. YES. COMMISSIONER VOLLMER.
YES. COMMISSIONER STEWARD. YES. AND I AM A YES AS WELL.
MOTION WILL PASS UNANIMOUSLY. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM E, PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE ANNA 96 DEVELOPMENT. I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED TO THE FAR NORTHEAST.
IT'S EAST OF NORTH POINT CROSSING AND A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF CAMDEN PARK AND ANNA GRANDE ESTATES AND SHERLEY FARMS. YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME. ADDRESS? SURE. GOOD EVENING.
TRISTAN POORE I AM WITH SPIARS ENGINEERING AND ADDRESS IS 109 PARK CIRCLE, MCKINNEY, TEXAS 75069. GOOD EVENING, JOHN MCKENZIE WITH M&A DEVELOPMENT, 901 MAIN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS. YEAH, I'LL GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
SO THIS IS AN EASY ONE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT.
AND SO THIS PROPERTY IS 96 ACRES. IT IS IN THE ETJ.
IT'S KIND OF IN THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE CITY.
AND SO REALLY, TONIGHT, I THINK WE WOULD LOVE TO GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM PLANNING AND ZONING.
THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED AG. FUTURE LAND USE DOES SHOW THIS AS RESIDENTIAL IN THIS PART OF TOWN.
WE'VE GONE, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF ON A FEW ROUNDS OF COMMENTS, GETTING SOME FEEDBACK.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TRANSITION SINCE OUR FIRST PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE GOOD TO HELP GET US IN THE RIGHT TRACK AND MOTION.
I WILL ADD TO FROM THE ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE CURRENTLY ACTIVELY WORKING WITH JOSEPH AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THE 3RD PARTY ENGINEERING GROUP ON SOME WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SOLUTIONS TO SERVE THE SITE.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY FROM SOME OF THE CITY'S CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AGAIN, I'M WITH WITH SPIARS ENGINEERING. JOHN IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY M&A DEVELOPMENT CO, AND SO YEAH, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND TAKE NOTES AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME GOOD DIRECTION.
TO COME BACK WITH A OFFICIAL PAY TO REQUEST. SO THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO PICK ON YOU 1ST SO YOU CAN STAY RIGHT THERE ON THE LIFT STATION.
I KNOW THE LIFT STATION IS, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE EXACTLY WHAT A LIFT STATION IS, WHAT ITS FUNCTION IS, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS OTHER THAN A SQUARE THAT SAYS LIFT STATION IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER? YEAH, SURE. SO THE LIFT STATION IS THE LIFT STATION IS FOR THE WASTEWATER.
AND SO THIS SITE NATURALLY DRAINS TO THE NORTHEAST.
YOU CAN SEE THE CREEK FLOODPLAIN UP THERE. AND SO THE CITY OF ANNA DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE ANY WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, TREATMENT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF TOWN.
WE'RE ACTUALLY RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF THE CITY'S ETJ WITH VAN ALSTYNE.
AND SO ACTUALLY, TO OUR NORTH, THERE'S A MUD DISTRICT THAT A COUPLE HOMEBUILDERS ARE IN.
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WE WOULD BE GRAVITY SEWERING OUR FACILITIES TO THIS LIFT STATION.THIS DEVELOPER WOULD BE BUILDING THIS LIFT STATION. THE LIFT STATION PUMPS ALL THE WASTEWATER UPSTREAM AND SO INTO A FORCE MAIN AND WE'D BE PUMPING IT TO THE CITY'S NEAREST ADEQUATE SYSTEM. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S BEING STUDIED RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT PATHS THAT WE INITIALLY TALKED WITH THE CITY AND THE PRE-DEVELOPED MEETING WITH.
AND NOW WE'RE REALLY JUST STUDYING WHETHER THAT GETS PUMPED TO THE COYOTE MEADOWS LIFT STATION.
OR IF WE GO ALL THE WAY TO HIGHWAY 5 WHERE THE NEAREST GRAVITY RECEPTOR IS AND DROP IN THERE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT ATYPICAL BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF BASIN, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THERE'S NOT REALLY A NEAR-TERM PLAN FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT IN THIS PART OF TOWN. SO BUT THAT'S WHAT THE LIFT STATION DOES.
AND THAT WOULD BE A DEVELOPER COST THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
I GUESS YOU GUYS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT LIFT STATION DURING BUILD OUT, GETTING 100% COMPLETE.
BUT AT THAT POINT, WOULD YOU TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY? THE LIFT STATIONS ARE TYPICALLY PART OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY OWNS AND MAINTAINS. YEAH.
OKAY. THERE ARE AND I THINK THIS DEVELOPER, BECAUSE I'VE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS TO MAINTAIN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT USUALLY THAT INVOLVES A MUD DISTRICT OR I THINK A LIFT STATION IS PROBABLY A LITTLE STEEP FOR AN HOA TO OWN AND MAINTAIN.
AND SO I THINK PART OF THIS ANNEXATION AGREEMENT IS THE DESIRE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ANNEX IN.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CITY. I MEAN, LATER DOWN THE ROAD IN THE FUTURE, WHENEVER, YOU KNOW, SANITARY SEWER MAKES ITS WAY OUT THERE, YOU COULD ALWAYS GET RID OF THE LIFT STATION.
I'M NOT A FAN OF LIFT STATIONS. THEIR MAINTENANCE.
I UNDERSTAND THEIR USE. I GET THAT I JUST I DON'T LIKE THEM.
YEAH. AND WE'RE AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT THEY ARE TEMPORARY.
AND SO MOST OF THEM WE DO. THEY HAVE A GRAVITY RECEPTOR THAT'S PLUGGED SO THAT WHENEVER A FUTURE TRUNK LINE OR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT COMES ONLINE, YOU CAN REMOVE THE LIFT STATION AND OPEN UP THAT THAT GRAVITY.
AND I THINK WE'RE ALSO OPEN IN AND DISCUSSIONS WITH ENGINEERING ON COMING UP WITH A GOOD REGIONAL SOLUTION, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY, AGAIN, ANYTHING UP HERE IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF TOWN. BUT ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE MODELED AND STUDIED FOR WHAT THE CITY HAS CAPACITY FOR TODAY.
SO. IS THE LIFT STATION THE REASON MAINLY FOR THE PED.
THE LIFT STATION AND THE OFF SITE FORCE MAIN AND THE OFF SITE WATER LINE ARE THE REASONS.
YEAH. BEYOND THAT, IT'S A PRETTY STANDARD DEVELOPMENT.
SO YOU USED A WORD THAT I'M NOT A FAN OF, WHICH WAS STANDARD DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE IN ANNA. SO I'M GOING TO PICK ON YOU AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE AT THE MIC AND IT'S A WEDNESDAY, NOT A MONDAY. SO I'M FEELING EXTRA GENEROUS TODAY.
I WANT TO SEE LARGER HOMES. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WATCH ANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
IF YOU WATCH ANY PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS, WE HAVE PUSHED THAT AGENDA ITEM.
I CAN SAY FIRMLY, SINCE I'VE BEEN CHAIR, WE'VE BEEN PUSHING THAT.
AND THEN EVEN PRIOR TO ME, WE'VE BEEN PUSHING LARGER HOMES.
WE NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE 15 MILLION OF.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. I DO SEE THAT THERE IS A VARIETY.
YOU'VE GOT 4 DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF LOT SIZES FOR YOUR UNITS.
SO OPEN SPACE AND I DON'T REALLY LIKE TO COUNT ME PERSONALLY, THIS IS MY OPINION.
Y'ALL ARE JUST BOUND BY THAT. THAT'S NOT THAT.
YOU'RE OFFERING IT UP AS AN AMENITY. IT'S IT IS WHAT IT IS.
YOU CAN'T BUILD ON TOP OF AN EASEMENT LIKE THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OPEN SPACE.
I'M GOOD WITH THAT. BUT THIS MANY HOUSES THIS FAR OUT OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A POOL, MAYBE A PARK, MAYBE GET WITH PARKS AND RECS AND TALK ABOUT PUTTING A PARK OVER HERE ADJACENT OR SOMEWHERE TO IT.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT STILL ON THE TABLE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE AMENITIES, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE LARGER LOTS, AND POTENTIALLY GIVE THESE HOMEOWNERS THAT WOW FACTOR THAT SOME OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE BIG BANG THAT GETS PEOPLE UP THERE? BECAUSE I LOVE TO SEE DEVELOPMENTS GROWING OUT IN THE ETJ.
I LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE BRANCHING OUT EAST AND WEST.
BIG SUPPORTER OF THAT. BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
LARGER, LOTS MORE AMENITIES. GIVE ME SOMETHING FUN IN THE OPEN SPACES.
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YOU KNOW, STANDARD IS JUST KIND OF WHAT I MEAN FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, INFRASTRUCTURE WISE.NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO WITH THE HOMES AND THE AMENITIES.
SO I'M NOT SPEAKING AS MUCH ON ON THAT BEHALF.
BUT WE DID. LAUREN. THAT WAS SOME FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM HER AND STAFF WAS SOME OF THE LARGER LOTS.
AND SO THIS REALLY STARTED AS A 40 AND 50 FOOT DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE'VE WE'VE KIND OF ADDED A LOT OF THE BIGGER LOTS IN THE CITY'S INPUT WAS REALLY FOR THAT TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE ARE UP AGAINST A SUBSTATION IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER WHERE THAT LIFT STATION IS.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE PUSHED A LOT OF THE SMALLER PRODUCT UP NORTH.
BUT ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION I DO HAVE IS ON THE LARGER LOTS, IS THERE A IS THERE A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A HOME OR A LOT SIZE THAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING AS KIND OF MORE DESIRABLE THAT THAT HITS WHAT THAT INTENT IS? I MEAN, IDEALLY FOR ME, I'M WANTING TO SEE THINGS CLOSER TO LIKE A ONE ACRE LOT.
LIKE I WANT THAT FLEXIBILITY. AND I THINK WITH THE WAY THAT THE ROAD'S LAYOUT AND THE WAY THAT YOU PUT THEM, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY DO LARGER HOME LOTS LIKE THAT, MAYBE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT THEM FEELING LIKE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SMALLER HOME AND THEY HAVE A SMALLER LOT, THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE SHAFT BY GOING AT THE [INAUDIBLE] SSTATION. SO MAYBE BETTER GREEN SCREENING.
I DO SEE THAT THERE'S SOME TREES AND STUFF STATIONED AROUND THERE, BUT I'M NOT A FAN OF LIFT STATIONS, SO THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING TO ZHUZH THAT UP A LITTLE BIT FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE UP THERE, LIKE, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR LARGE LOTS, LIKE PLACES WHERE MY NEIGHBORS NOT NEXT TO ME AND I DON'T HAVE TO CALL AND GET CODE ON WHAT TIME THEY CAN KEEP MAKING NOISE TILL.
I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT ANNA IS LOOKING FOR. AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT, WELL, CRIME AND TRAFFIC AND SO MUCH CONCRETE. AND WHY DO WE HAVE TO STACK HOUSES ON HOUSES? BUT YOU PRODUCE LARGER LOTS. THEY TEND TO BE MORE OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SO MUCH ELBOW TO ELBOW WITH THEM.
I HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON WHAT'S UP HERE. WHAT'S THE M STAND FOR? THOSE ARE MODEL. MODEL PARK. GOTCHA. I THINK WHAT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS EVERYTHING ABOVE THE GAS EASEMENT MAKES TOTAL SENSE TO ME.
THERE'S A HIGHER THING, BUT I RUN THROUGH THERE AND THE 1ST THING THEY PUT IN WAS THEIR AMENITY CENTER, WHICH IS A REALLY NICE POOL. IT'S GOT TENNIS COURTS, PICKLEBALL. IT'S GOT A PLAYGROUND, A WHOLE BUNCH OF REALLY NICE STUFF AS AN ATTRACTION AREA.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO SOMETHING, MAYBE NOT TO THE SAME EXTENT, THAT'S THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AREA, BUT ADDING SOMETHING TO MAKE THIS MORE AVAILABLE.
I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY BY ANY MEANS, BUT A LOT OF PED'S HAVE COME IN HERE WHERE THE AMENITIES ARE LATE OR THEY DON'T DELIVER AS QUICKLY. I THINK THERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE A PED A GOOD NAME, KNOWING IT MAKES SENSE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO DO SOMETHING AMENITY FIRST TO DRIVE THAT ATTRACTIVENESS. AND I WOULD SAY KIND OF GOING WITH, WITH COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS, THE 70 FOOT LOT IN THIS AREA WOULD PROBABLY GO A LONG WAY MORE OF THAT. GETTING AWAY FROM THOSE 50S AND EVEN SOME OF THE 60S, MORE 70S, I THINK WOULD GO A LONG WAY, EVEN 80S, IF IF IT FITS INTO THAT SOUTHERN SECTION BELOW THE GAS EASEMENT, KIND OF MAKING A BIGGER DIFFERENTIATION THERE.
BUT. YOU BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT HAVING AMENITIES BUILT FIRST.
BUT THAT'S NOT FOR US TO DO. THAT'S FOR CITY COUNCIL AND THE DEVELOPER TO LEAN ON.
BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO PITCH FIRST VERSUS BEING ASKED.
SURE. YEAH. AND WE'RE I MEAN THIS PRE ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR.
SO WE'RE WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND WE CAN ADD TO THE AMENITY PACKAGE AND OPEN SPACE.
AND I THINK TO JUST TOTALLY HEARING AND RECEIVING WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING ABOUT THE LOT SIZES.
AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M AS ATTUNED TO, BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE HOME BUILDERS OUT HERE ARE COMPETING WITH THE MUD AND THE LOT SIZES THAT ARE KIND OF AROUND THEM AND THE DIFFERENT FINANCIAL STRUCTURES THAT THEY HAVE.
AND AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE BALANCE OF THE ACRE.
LOTS SOMETIMES BECOME A CHALLENGE ECONOMICALLY.
BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING WITH LAUREN ON.
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BUT THE SPRINKLING AND THE LARGER PERCENTAGE OF 70S AND 80S AND MAYBE HAVING A MORE OF A SPLIT, THE 40S AND 50S BEING HIGHER, KIND OF UP TOWARDS THE VAN ALSTYNE COUNTY ROAD AND THEN THE LARGER LOTS TO THE SOUTH.SO WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT. AND YEAH. ANY OTHER FEEDBACK OR SUGGESTIONS COMMISSION.
TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO PICK YOUR ENGINEERING WISE BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S MY BACKGROUND TOO.
SO I LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S WHY I HIT YOU FIRST FOR THAT ONE. I REALLY DON'T.
COMMISSIONERS DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY MORE FEEDBACK FOR THEM? JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. THAT AREA HAS GOT KIND OF LIKE SOME LAND INDURATION AND IT'S PRETTY AREA.
YEAH, WE'LL WORK WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY FOR SURE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS LIKE THE GAS EASEMENT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF TIED IN ON SOME OF THOSE. BUT YEAH, OUR IN GENERAL, OUR INTENT IS NEVER TO SCRAPE AND JUST BENCH AN ENTIRE SITE.
BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
AND WE WORK WITH A LOT OF BUILDERS THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET.
AND SO THE HISTORY MAKER HOMES AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER BUILDERS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT.
SO I HAVEN'T DROVE THROUGH, BUT I'LL DRIVE THROUGH FOR SURE AND CHECK OUT THE AMENITIES AND POOL.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THE INTENT WOULD BE TO KEEP SOME OF THAT NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY THROUGHOUT THEIR.
COMMISSIONERS. I THINK THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD BUILDING BLOCK TO START WITH.
WELL, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. WE LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.
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ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANYTHING COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.I'LL JUST MAKE 1 COMMENT. I KNOW WE GOT HOLIDAYS REARING UP.
WE ALL HAVE FAMILIES. WE ALL HAVE THINGS TO GO TO. I'LL JUST DO A FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT EVERYONE, PLEASE JUST MAKE SURE TO COPY OUR LIAISON, MYSELF AND CITY STAFF ON ANY YOU KNOW THING THAT YOU MIGHT MISS COMING UP.
SO KEEP THAT IN THE BACK. I KNOW IT'S NOT KIND OF OUR SPACE TO BE IN, BUT WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO PUT LIKE A 3 SLIDE THING TOGETHER THAT KIND OF TALKS ABOUT WHAT A PED IS VERSUS A TOURS VERSUS A MUD VERSUS ALL THAT.AND CAN YOU ADD IN THERE LIKE THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT TOO, SINCE WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS JUST KIND OF TOUCH ON THAT AS WELL, LIKE HOW THAT PLAYS IN ITS ROLE AND TIES INTO LIKE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT MORE OF THOSE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, IF NO ONE ELSE HAS IT, I'M GOING TO MOTION TO ADJOURN.
CAN I GET A SECOND? I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE AND ADJOURN THE MEETING AT
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