[00:00:01] >> WELCOME, EVERYONE. THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANNA WILL MEET ON TUESDAY, [1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.] OCTOBER OCTOBER, AUGUST 26, 2025 AT 6:00 PM. IN THE ANNA MUNICIPAL COMPLEX. COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 121 SEVENTH STREET, TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON OPEN SESSION AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT THE OPINION SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM AND TURN IT INTO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS. WE ARE USING NEW SOUND EQUIPMENT. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR, JEFF, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY BACK THERE? EXCELLENT. YOU GUYS GOOD. TOBY, YOU'RE GOOD OVER THERE. THANK YOU, SIR. WELCOME. TOBY TUCKER, SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, BY THE WAY. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, WE'RE GOING TO CALL TO ORDER, HAVE A ROLL CALL AND STOP A QUORUM FOR THE RECORD. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILMAN CARVER IF HE'LL DO OUR INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. YOU WILL JOIN ME IN PRAYER. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THIS CITY. I PRAY THAT YOUR PROTECTION BE UPON ALL OF US AND YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR WISDOM BE UPON THIS COUNCIL. I ASK THAT WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY THAT YOU HELP THEM BE VIGILANT WITH FERRETING OUT CRIME AND ALSO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO PROTECT US ALL AT ALL TIMES IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. >> THANK YOU NEIGHBOR COMMENTS. AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEM ON THIS MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. ALSO AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THIS MEETING AGENDA. EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING OR ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A CITIZENS INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY. I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAK CARDS, ANYTHING OVER THERE. ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM 4, RECEIVE REPORTS FROM THE STAFF OR THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. ANYONE?ALL RIGHT. THAT WILL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM 5 WORK SESSION A [5. Work Session.] IS TO DISCUSS A FRAMEWORK FOR DEVELOPING AN ANNA HISTORIC DISTRICT, ACTING CITY MANAGER MARC MARCHAND. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL. KIMBERLY NARSKY IS GOING TO LEAD THE CONVERSATION, BUT I'M INVITING THE TEAM TO COME UP. WE'VE GOT OUR FOLKS FROM PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ALSO APART OF THE CONVERSATION. SO KIMBERLY, I'LL LET YOU LEAD OFF WITH THE DISCUSSION. >> ALL RIGHT, LET ME MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. ALL RIGHT. THAT LOOKS GOOD. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. THIS ITEM IS TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF A DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY OF ANNA. IN THE CITY'S DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, IT EMPHASIZES THE IMPORTANCE AND VALUE OF THE CITY'S HISTORIC ASSETS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN THROUGHOUT THE PLAN. IN ONE SECTION, IT OUTLINES STRATEGIC POLICIES TO MAKE THE DOWNTOWN A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, DO BUSINESS, VISIT, AND ENJOY. ONE SUCH POLICY INCLUDES PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ANNA HISTORICAL SOCIETY TO ENSURE THAT HISTORICAL ASSETS AND THE CHARACTER OF THE DOWNTOWN IS PRESERVED. ADDITIONALLY, THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN INCLUDES AN ACTION ITEM UNDER THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY THAT SAYS THE CITY SHOULD EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF DESIGNATING A HISTORIC DISTRICT TO PRESERVE ANY ELIGIBLE, HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT BUILDINGS AND SITES AND TO CAPTURE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PROGRAMS AND FUNDING AVAILABLE TO SUCH A DISTRICT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT IS IN LINE WITH THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND WILL HELP CITY STAFF UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL'S VISION FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT MOVING FORWARD. SOME INITIAL INFORMATION. WHAT IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT? A HISTORIC DISTRICT IS A DISTRICT THAT IS GEOGRAPHICALLY DEFINED CONTAINING A CONCENTRATION OF BUILDINGS, SITE, STRUCTURES WITH SPECIAL HISTORICAL OR ARCHITECTURAL VALUE TOGETHER FORMING A SIGNIFICANT AREA. OFTENTIMES, THESE DISTRICTS ARE PROTECTED BY PUBLIC REVIEW AND LOCAL ORDINANCE. WHY DO CITIES ESTABLISH HISTORIC DISTRICTS? SO SOME OF THE BENEFITS INCLUDE LOCAL COUNTY AND STATE RECOGNITION. THINGS LIKE THAT INCLUDE HISTORIC DISTRICTS CAN BECOME TOURIST ATTRACTIONS AND DRAW VISITORS WHO SPEND MONEY IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY. ADDITIONALLY, THEY CAN FOSTER A STRONGER SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND PRIDE WITHIN THE LOCAL AREA ABOUT THE UNIQUE HISTORY AND ARCHITECTURE. ULTIMATELY, THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN AN AREA THROUGH THAT MANNER. ADDITIONALLY, FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TAX INCENTIVES FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OF THE HISTORICAL ASSETS. [00:05:03] THEN THEY DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD REGULATIONS INTO THE AREA THAT'S DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO REGULATIONS OFFER A FRAMEWORK TO PREVENT INSENSITIVE OR OVERDEVELOPMENT THAT COULD OTHERWISE DEGRADE THE HISTORIC FABRIC OF AN AREA, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, REGULATIONS MAKE SLOW DOWN DEVELOPMENT IN A SPECIFIC AREA, SPECIFICALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA BY PLACING ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS ONTO PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE DESIGNATED AREA. SOME THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND. NOW, SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN UNDERSTANDING COUNCIL'S VISION FOR THE HISTORIC AREA. FEEL FREE TO ANSWER AS WE TALK THROUGH THEM. I DO HAVE A LAST SIDE THAT'S GOT A MAP FOR YOU TO THINK THROUGH SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS WHEN LOOKING AT, BUT MOST IMPORTANT PART, I THINK OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ARE THE BOUNDARIES. WHAT PROPERTIES IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT? WHAT HISTORICAL AREAS ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THIS. THEN WHAT DOES COUNCIL VIEW AS HISTORIC? WHAT WOULD YOU DEFINE IT AS? WHAT ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES? WHAT ARE THE LANDMARKS? WHAT ARE THE IMPORTANT SUBJECTS WITHIN THE DEFINITION THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE. OTHER CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. WHO ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS, WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE DESIGNATED AREA, OUR LOCAL HISTORICAL SOCIETY AS WELL AS THE COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION. WHO WOULD REGULATE? DEPENDING ON THE TYPES OF WHETHER THIS IS IMPLEMENTED THROUGH ZONING, WHETHER IT'S IMPLEMENTED IN ANOTHER WAY. THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION INVOLVEMENT, POTENTIAL FOR COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT, AND SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THEN SOME CITIES WILL HAVE A HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION THAT'S ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE THAT EVALUATES CHANGES SPECIFIC TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES. SO WHEN IT COMES TO ENCOURAGING THE PROTECTION OF THE HISTORICAL ASSETS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCENTIVIZE BUILDING MATERIALS AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. AND THEN THAT INCLUDES OUR CURRENT EDC INCENTIVE GRANT PROGRAM WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE HISTORICAL FEATURES IN THE DOWNTOWN. ALL RIGHT. MY GOODNESS. I'M GETTING NERVOUS. I'M SO SORRY. SOME STRATEGIES WHEN IT COMES TO HISTORICAL PRESERVATION INCLUDE THAT ZONING, YOUR MOST FORMAL REGULATION AND REQUIREMENTS, DESIGN STANDARDS, OPPORTUNITIES FOR REHABILITATION, FOR INSTANCE, THOSE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO BRAND OUR DOWNTOWN AND BRANDED AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT, MAYBE POTENTIALLY CONNECTING IT WITH OUR WAY FINDING PLAN. THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO EMPHASIZE SOME OF OUR HISTORICAL ASSETS IN OUR PUBLIC ART, AS WE INCLUDE THAT IN OUR DOWNTOWN IN CONTINUED PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR HISTORICAL SOCIETY, AND THEN WITH THE PRESERVATION AND DESIGNATION OF LANDMARKS IN THE AREA. SO UP ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE TWO AREAS THAT STAFF WANTS TO PROPOSE FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. AS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANS PLACEMAKING STRATEGY, IT IDENTIFIES THIS AREA OFF SHIRLEY ROAD AS AN AREA OF HISTORICAL VALUE. SO SHIRLEY ROAD RUNS PARALLEL TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE DIRT RAILROAD AND CONTAINS A SERIES OF THE MOST VALUED HISTORIC SITES IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE TRAIN DEPOT, THE WATER TOWER, SHIRLEY AND BROTHERS HARDWARE STORE, SHIRLEY HERITAGE PARK, AND THE FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF ANNA. SO ONE IDEA OR ONE SUGGESTION THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS CONSIDERING THIS AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF SHIRLEY ROAD AS MAYBE THE AREA THAT THERE IS THE MOST REGULATION ON THE HISTORICAL PROPERTIES, AND THEN CONSIDERING THE DOWNTOWN AS A WHOLE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRAND AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT WHETHER IT'S EMPHASIS ON PUBLIC ART, WHETHER IT'S EMPHASIS ON THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE DOWNTOWN AS A WHOLE. WHETHER IT'S YOUR LAMPPOSTS WITH YOUR SIGNS AND WHATNOT THAT ADD TO THE HISTORICAL CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY, AND SO WANT TO PUT THAT FORTH TO COUNCIL, BUT REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND A STAFF THIS EVENING IS YOUR VIEWS ON THE BOUNDARIES OF THE POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND [00:10:03] THE AMOUNT OF REGULATION FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT YOU WOULD FIND MEANINGFUL, VALUABLE, AND THEN MAYBE YOUR OPENNESS TO SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO EMPHASIZE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE GREATER AREA AROUND IT. SO WITH THAT, WHAT IS YOUR FEEDBACK? >> COUNCIL, FEEDBACK, COMMENTS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, YOU HAVE THE SQUARE, BUT THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, YOU'VE CUT THE SQUARE OFF. WHY IS THAT? >> OH, I APOLOGIZE. SO ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, THAT IS THE OFFICIAL BOUNDARY OF OUR DOWNTOWN CORE. ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, AND SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE SOME OF THE STREETS THAT ARE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, BUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND THIS COULD BE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY BROUGHT IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE ARE SOME HISTORIC PROPERTIES OF INTERESTS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA THAT MAY NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. >> YEAH. THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DOES NOT NEED TO BE A CONTIGUOUS BOUNDARY. THERE ARE PAD SITES THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED OR COULD BE INCLUDED. >> I'M GOING TO REFER THAT TO LAUREN. >> THAT IS CORRECT. THAT YOU CAN DESIGNATE LANDMARKS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CONTIGUOUS BOUNDARY. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ANY CONCERNS FROM ANY OF THE LOCAL RESIDENTS SO FAR ON ANY FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY THINK OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WHAT THE THOUGHTS ARE? >> SO THAT MAY BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT I WOULD SAY I THINK AT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE LEVEL, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD THAT. I DO THINK OR IMAGINE PART OF THIS PROCESS IN MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE REACHING OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PROPOSED DISTRICT TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD. >> PERFECT. >> COUNCIL SAY, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET. THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS IN OUR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, THERE'S REFERENCE TO STUDYING THE CREATION OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO IT'S IN POLICY BY THAT DIRECTION TO EVALUATE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. KIMBERLY SAID THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN DO IT. ONE, YOU CAN DO BY RESOLUTION, KEEP IT LIGHT, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US. AS LAUREN TALKED ABOUT, YOU CAN ALSO DO MORE RESTRICTIVE TYPE THINGS ON STANDARDS, WITHIN REASON. AND THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOO, PART OF THE THING AND JIM WE CAN SPEAK TO THIS IS THAT WHILE YOU'VE SEEN EXAMPLES OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, THAT'S A PLUS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE SOME DRAWBACKS IN THAT THEY CAN PUT YOU IN A CORNER AND LIMIT SOME OF YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FROM YOU ALL IS NUMBER 1 IS, ARE YOU GOOD WITH CREATING SOMETHING LIKE THIS HERE FOR US? TWO, IS WHAT IS THE AREA THAT YOU'D LIKE TO START WITH? BECAUSE WHEN WE GO DOWN THAT PATH, THAT'S WHEN WE START ENGAGING WITH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS, HOMEOWNERS, WHATNOT, AND THEY HAVE TO ALL BE ON BOARD WITH DOING THIS. LAUREN, YOU WANT TO TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? >> SURE. SO UNDER STATE LAW, THIS FALLS UNDER ZONING, AND IT SPECIFICALLY HAS RESTRICTIONS ON EITHER THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO GIVE CONSENT, AND IF THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT GIVE CONSENT, THEN IT REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY BY BOTH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL AND CITY COUNCIL BOTH. SO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE TO IT. SO IT'S MUCH EASIER TO DESIGNATE A PROPERTY IF A PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO VERSUS SOMEONE WHO MAY NOT WANT TO. AND THEN THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL RULE WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGIOUS FACILITIES. THAT RULE DOES NOT APPLY TO RELIGIOUS FACILITIES AND ESSENTIALLY, THEY HAVE TO CONSENT TO IT. >> FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND, SOME OF IT ABUTS ONTO HISTORIC LAND OR DESIGNATED LAND, IS THERE FLEXIBILITY OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN MAYBE PUT IN THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF SOME WAIVERS OR JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO WORK WITH? >> THERE WOULD BE AN OPT IN AND OPT OUT PROCESS IN GETTING IT ESTABLISHED. >> OH, NO, FOR SURE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY, WE'RE DEVELOPING THE DOWNTOWN IN SOME OF THESE RESTAURANTS, IF YOU WANTED TO BRING ANOTHER PROJECT LIKE THAT AND IT HAPPENS TO BE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR EDC TO CONDUCT SOME OF THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. >> YES. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION COUNCIL. I DO REAL QUICK. [00:15:04] WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT CITY MANAGER SAID ABOUT BILLING MATERIALS. SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2019, A BILL WAS PASSED THAT DOESN'T ALLOW CITIES TO GOVERN BILLING MATERIALS UNLESS THERE WAS A MAIN STREET DESIGNATION, I BELIEVE, PRIOR TO APRIL OF 2019. IT DOES RESTRICT US. WHAT WE PROPOSE IS OBVIOUSLY HAVING STANDARDS. LAUREN CAN TALK ABOUT ZONING, HAVING DOWNTOWN ZONING. THERE'S ALSO SEVERAL COMMUNITIES WILL HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. CALL IT OLD TOWN, YOU GO TO KELLER, KELLER HAS OLD TOWN KELLER. SO THE GOAL IS, AS YOU'RE SUGGESTING TO HAVE A HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND WHEN YOU BRING IN PROSPECTS TO TRY TO GET THEM TO HONOR THAT HISTORY. AND TYPICALLY, ALTHOUGH WE CAN ENFORCE BILLING STANDARDS OR BILLING MATERIALS, WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THEM TO DO WHAT THEY ORDINARILY WOULD HAVE HAD TO DO IF WE HAD THOSE IN PLACE. SO THE KEY IS WE DON'T WANT TO HAMPER OURSELVES, BUT WE DO WANT TO ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH DEVELOPERS TO COME IN, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE BACK TO THE STANDARDS THAT CAN BE CREATED FROM THE COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING, AND POTENTIALLY, IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> SO THE BIGGER MAP IS OUR DOWNTOWN MAP, CORRECT? >> THE DOWNTOWN CORE DISTRICT. >> DOWNTOWN CORE DISTRICT. THEN THE LEFT IS WHAT WHAT STAFF IS SUGGESTING WE START WITH? >> SO THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS AN AREA IN THE DOWNTOWN THAT HAS, I THINK THE GREATEST CONCENTRATION OF HISTORICAL BUILDINGS WITHIN IT. SO YOUR WATERTOWER DEPOT, SHIRLEY BUILDING, EVEN, THE WHITEHOUSE BEHIND THE SHIRLEY BUILDING, THE CHURCH, ALL THE ABOVE, IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF BUILDINGS I THINK THAT PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY THINK OF WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF THEM. THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THE DOWNTOWN, I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME POTENTIALLY VALUABLE HISTORICAL BUILDINGS, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME KIND OF CONCENTRATION. AND SO THIS IS THE AREA WE LOOK AT AS MAYBE MOST DESERVING OR MOST WOULD BENEFIT THE MOST FROM THE STRICTER REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO A HISTORIC DISTRICT. WHEREAS THE DOWNTOWN AS A WHOLE, COULD HAVE A BRANDING CAMPAIGN OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF POTENTIALLY DESIGN STANDARD STREET LIGHTS THAT TIE IT ALL TOGETHER, BUT MAYBE NOT HAVE THE SAME DEGREE OF REGULATION WHEN IT COMES TO IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE BUILDING ON THEIR PROPERTY. >> I LIKE EXPANDING IT, MAYBE NOT EXPANDING IT AS BIG AS THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO SOUTH OF WHITE STREET, BECAUSE SOUTH WEST CORNER IS ALREADY ZONED FOR SOMETHING, IF I REMEMBER, AND THEN WHO KNOWS IF SONIC EVER GOES ANYWHERE OR THE POST OFFICE. BUT I DO LIKE EXPANDING IT TO THAT SIDE, THE WEST SIDE OF FIVE, FOR SURE BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD A DOWNTOWN. WE DON'T HAVE ONE. WELL, WE HAVE A TINY LITTLE STREET, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD SOMETHING, AND IT MAY COME TO THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING OR THAT ROAD, SO TO HAVE THAT SO THEY DON'T COME IN AND JUST BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT, WE COULD HAVE MORE CONTROL NEGOTIATION ON THAT SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY 5. THE DOWNTOWN MAP HAS THAT SQUIGGLY LINE, I WOULD EXPAND IT. BUT YOU EXPAND IT, I WOULD JUST FOLLOW PROPER PROPERTY LINES MAYBE SO MUCH, I WOULD NOT MAKE IT A SQUARE BECAUSE YOU'RE INTO THAT FIELD AND WHO KNOWS THAT I'M SURE THAT FIELD THAT LAND IS SOMEONE ELSE'S AND IF WE CUT INTO SOMEONE'S LOT AND THEY GO TO SELL IT EVENTUALLY, THAT TINY LITTLE CORNER. SO I WOULD FOLLOW THE PROPERTY LINES ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT I WOULD FOR SURE EXPAND IT A LITTLE BIT MORE NORTH WHERE THE MAT SHOP'S AT AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF 5 FOR SURE, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE THAT CONTROL OF WHERE THAT PROPERTY'S NOW EMPTY SINCE THEY TORE DOWN THE GREEN BARN. THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT IT. I KNOW COUNCILMAN BAKER HAS BEEN WANTING THIS FOR A WHILE SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I SAY WE GET AS MUCH PROPERTY AS WE CAN BECAUSE SOME OF THESE HOMES ON THIS SIDE, [00:20:04] THIS CHURCH AND, FOR SURE, PROTECT 4TH STREET AND THAT CHURCH AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S JUST MY ASKING. >> KEVIN, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE LOOKED AT THIS A FEW YEARS AGO AND JUST LAID OUT SOME BOUNDARIES AND JUST TOOK A LOOK AT THINGS, AND THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT BUILDINGS ON THE WEST SIDE THERE, THE CHURCHES, THE ORIGINAL GEAR HOME, 4TH STREET. BUT THAT GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CONTIGUOUS, WE CAN PICK THOSE PLACES OUT. >> BECAUSE IF I WAS TRYING TO FIND A MAP, CITY MCKINNEY, IT'S THEIR DOWNTOWN AND THEN ALL THOSE NEW HOMES, NOT REALLY NEW HOMES, BUT THEY REBUILT THOSE NICE HOMES, OLDER HOMES ON LOUISIANA AND TENNESSEE. SO YEAH, I FOR SURE, WANT TO MAKE IT AS BIG AS POSSIBLE. >> ONE RECOMMENDATION I WOULD HAVE IS ON HIGHWAY 5 AND WHITE, I WOULD RECOMMEND US GOING SOUTH OF THAT WHITE STREET JUST BECAUSE IT GIVES THE MAIN FOUR CORNERS IN DOWNTOWN. IT ALLOWS US TO BUILD SOME TYPE OF A SQUARE IN THE FUTURE, IT GIVES US A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY, AND THEN IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO CONTROL WHAT'S GOING TO COME IN ACROSS THE STREET BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE HISTORIC AND THEN SUDDENLY WE HAVE ANOTHER 300 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX COMING IN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. SO I WAS WONDERING, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR EVERYONE IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE THAT SOUTHERN SIDE OF WHITE AS WELL. I THINK THERE'S REAL VALUE IN IT. >> THAT'S THE EAST SIDE OF WHITE, YES. BUT THE WEST SIDE OF WHITE, WHAT IS THAT? LAUREN, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ZONED FOR? PROBABLY MULTI FAMILY, I'M SURE. >> IT HAS THE DOWNTOWN ZONING AS WELL AS SOME INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES ALONG WHITE AND POWELL ARE C2 REGIONAL COMMERCIAL. >> YEAH. I THINK THEY NEED SPECIFIC BOUNDARIES FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT EXPANDED THE MAP HERE ON THE LEFT TO INCLUDE A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T NEED TO GO TO THE COMPLETE DOWNTOWN BORDER, BUT SOMETHING BETWEEN THAT. >> IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD MEET WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY BECAUSE THAT'S THE PEOPLE WE SHOULD BE TALKING TO ABOUT THIS. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. >> WE HAVE THIS AS AN AGENDA ITEM COMING UP THURSDAY. >> EXCELLENT. WELL, I'D LOVE TO HERE AND SEE THAT MAP FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE. THAT'D BE EXCELLENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW, THIS PART OF THE PROCESS IS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BOUNDARY IS GOING TO GO, WHAT HOUSES ARE INVOLVED, WHO'S NOT INVOLVED? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO GET STARTED, RIGHT? >> YES. GENERALLY, COUNSEL'S EXPECTATION FOR WHERE THE DISTRICT WOULD BE, AND WHETHER IT'D BE THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN, WHETHER IT'D BE A MORE CONCENTRATED AREA. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ONCE WE GET TO THAT, CAN WE ALSO GET A HIGHLIGHTED MAP SHOWING WHAT EXACTLY IS SPECIFICALLY HISTORIC WITHIN THAT CIRCLE, JUST HIGHLIGHTED AREAS, SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN SEE TO TIE THEM TOGETHER? >> YES. SO ONE THING WE DID IN PREPARATION FOR THIS MEETING WAS REVIEWED. BY DEFINITION, HISTORIC ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, HISTORIC IS DEFINED BY OVER 50-YEARS-OLD. NOW, DOES THAT MAKE EVERY PROPERTY OR EVERY BUILDING THAT'S OVER 50-YEARS-OLD OF HISTORICAL VALUE? NOT NECESSARILY. AND SO WE DO HAVE THE AGES OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTIES IN THE ENTIRETY OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE, BUT AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS, FOR INSTANCE, YOUR TRAIN DEPOT, YOU'RE SURELY BUILDING CERTAINLY OF HISTORICAL VALUE, OTHERS MAYBE NOT AS MUCH AND SO, ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN BRING MORE INFORMATION WHEN IT COMES TO. >>WE DON'T HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT MAP OF THE GIS. >> I HAVE PRINTED COPIES OF IT. >> OUR GIS TEAM TOOK ALL OF THE PROPERTIES AND RANKED THEM AND COLOR CODED THEM BY THE AGE OF THAT PROPERTY. NOW, IT CAN GET A LITTLE WALKY BECAUSE IT MAY SAY THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT. LAUREN EXPLAINED THIS TO ME MUCH BETTER, BUT WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT, BUT THEN IT'S BEEN REMODELED, IT'S BEEN UPDATED, SO IT MAY HAVE LIKE AN EFFECTIVE DATE SOMETHING. THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE INTERESTING TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT'S WHAT. BUT THAT MAP RIGHT THERE HOPEFULLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND SHOW YOU WHEN WE COME BACK WITH A MORE DEFINED PRESENTATION FOR ACTION AND WHATNOT, WE'LL INCLUDE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AS WELL. >> THE COLLIN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, DEVELOPED A HISTORIC ASSET MAP, THAT'S COUNTY WIDE. ONE OF THE TASKS THAT WE TOOK ON BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AND GOING IN VETTING THOSE SEE WHICH PROPERTY STILL EXISTS, WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED. SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, [00:25:02] THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED. SO IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS. >> I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIRST CONVERSATION. I APPRECIATE STAFF BRINGING THIS BEFORE US. IT'S BEEN A TOPIC THAT WE'VE PURSUED FOR QUITE SOME TIME. FEW QUESTIONS, AND ONE I HOPE IS OBVIOUS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A RECTANGLE, IT CAN FOLLOW THE BOUNDARIES. >> I'M GOING TO DIFFER. I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE A RECTANGLE. NO. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A RECTANGLE. >> OKAY. IT JUST HAS TO BE CONTIGUOUS? >> NO. IT DOES NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE CONTINUOUS. >> IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CONTINUOUS. >> OBVIOUSLY, THE CITY I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH HISTORIC DISTRICTS IS PLANO. PLANO DOES HAVE TWO DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED, BUT THEN THEY ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL THINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT FALL UNDER THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, SUCH AS THE TEXAS POOL. THAT'S NOT CONTIGUOUS TO ANY OF DOWNTOWN. >> SOUNDS LIKE YOU PREPARED FOR THIS CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. >> I SHOULD CLARIFY BECAUSE THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, THE SQUARE OR THE RECTANGLE ON THE LEFT, THAT WASN'T STAFF RECOMMENDING A BOUNDARY. IT WAS JUST SAYING, THIS IS WHERE THE CONCENTRATION OF MOST OF OUR HISTORIC FEATURES AND BUILDINGS CURRENTLY ARE. BUT LIKE WE WERE TALKING, LAUREN SAID, ONE, IT CAN BE ALL KINDS OF SHAPES, SO WE CAN MOVE IT HOW YOU WANT TO. BUT YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND THEN YOU CAN INCLUDE WALKS OR YOU CAN INCLUDE SOME OTHER FEATURE LIKE A ROAD, A SCHOOL, WHATEVER WE DEEM IS FITTING INTO THAT DEFINITION, YOU CAN MAKE THAT WORK AS WELL. >> ONE QUICK QUESTION IF YOU DON'T MIND, IT MIGHT TIE INTO YOUR STUFF, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE, JOEY THIS MIGHT BE TOWARD YOU, I HATE BRINGING UP OTHER CITIES, BUT MCKINNEY HAD, I FINALLY FOUND HER MAP, MORE THAN THREE CLICKS, THOUGH. THEY HAVE A COMMERCIAL AREA IN THEIR HISTORICAL DISTRICT, AND THEY HAVE RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND BUT THEY ALSO HAVE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AREA. ARE WE GOING TO LOOK INTO DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO DO ONE HISTORICAL AREA? WE'RE GOING TO DO A HISTORICAL COMMERCIAL? >> WE'LL LOOK INTO ALL OF THAT AND PROVIDE THAT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL AS YOU TO DISCUSS FURTHER. WE'RE JUST REALLY STARTING THE BEGINNING OF THIS. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE OUR DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICTS. >> THAT MAY BE A QUESTION FOR COUNSEL. ARE WE WANTING TO DO TWO WITHIN ONE, OR ARE WE GOING TO WANT A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT? >> THAT SEGUES RIGHT BACK TO WHERE I WAS HEADED. AND THANKS, KEVIN, NICE SET UP. ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF LAND CLEARING GOING ON. IF WE HAVE THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT, THIS IS JUST HYPOTHETICAL, IF IT EXTENDS ON THE WEST SIDE OF POWELL INTO THE HARLOW LEONARD PROPERTIES OVER THERE, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THAT DEVELOPMENT? I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PENDENT STONE, BUT SO WE'RE JUST DOING SOME HYPOTHETICALS. IF OUR HISTORICAL DISTRICT EXTENDS ON THE WEST SIDE OF POWELL WHERE ALL OF THAT CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON, HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT THAT? >> I DON'T THINK IT AFFECTS IT AT ALL. I THINK IT ENHANCES IT BECAUSE THE WESTERN SIDE HAS A LOT OF HISTORY OVER THERE AS WELL. AND THOSE LAND OWNERS ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING OUT DEVELOPERS RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK. I DO WILL GO BACK TO COUNSEL MEMBER TOTEN'S QUESTION, AND THIS IS A CREDIT TO NATASHA AND SELINA HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON A BRANDING FOR DOWNTOWN. I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF DOWNTOWN, SOME DOWNTOWNS HAVE MULTIPLE DISTRICTS, THAT'S USUALLY YOUR LARGER COMMUNITIES HAVE DIFFERENT THEMED AREAS, SOME AGRARIAN, THEY CALL THIS ACTUALLY URBAN AGRARIAN, THAT'S SOME OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE SEEING THAT TIES BACK TO HISTORY. THE VILLAGE OF RULE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP THAT DID THAT. I THINK YOUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WILL BE REALLY CENTERED AROUND 5 JUST BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS. BUT THERE'S FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO DOWNTOWN ZONING JUST BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE HOMES AND YOU SEE THIS ALL OVER THE PLACE, HOMES THAT TURN INTO A LAW OFFICE OR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, SO YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY. BUT IT DOESN'T AFFECT BACK YOUR QUESTION ON THE WEST SIDE. OUR GOAL IS THAT WE DEVELOP MIXED USE TYPE DEVELOPMENTS, THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO ATTRACT OUR NEIGHBORS TO HAVE ACTIVITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> SO YOU DON'T SEE THAT THIS WOULD HINDER THAT AT ALL? >> NO. >> WELL, THAT'S GOOD. AS FAR AS SETTING UP THE DISTRICT OR DISTRICTS, ARE WE ABLE TO EXEMPT PROPERTIES WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS AS A COUNSEL OR PNC RECOMMENDATION? [00:30:01] >> YES. >> OKAY. >> WE CAN MAKE THIS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BE.[LAUGHTER] WE JUST NEED THE DIRECTION FROM YOU. >> WELL, WE'RE SO LATE IN DOING THIS, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENT, COUNSEL, I'M TALKING ABOUT WAY BACK, AND EVEN BEFORE YOU, SIR, THERE'S BEEN A LOT THAT HAS EVOLVED, GROWN, TORN DOWN, REPLACED, WHATEVER. THIS IS OUR LAST DITCH EFFORT TO CAPTURE WHAT'S THERE AND THEN TRY TO PRESERVE THAT HERITAGE. I APPRECIATE DOING THIS. THIS CONVERSATION OBVIOUSLY NEEDS MORE TIME INTO IT, BUT THANK YOU FOR STARTING THE CONVERSATION. >> STEFF, WE'D LIKE TO THANK, COUNSEL TOO. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK AND FOR A FIRST CONVERSATION, IT HELPS US TO HEAR FROM YOU OF WHAT TYPES OF THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE SO THAT WE CAN REFINE IT AND COME BACK AND HAVE A MUCH MORE SPECIFIC CONVERSATION. THANK YOU ALL. >> JUST TO ADD REAL QUICK, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY WOULD BE MORE HAPPY TO HAVE WORK SESSIONS ANY TIME TO MEET WITH STAFF OR WHATEVER AND WE CAN DISCUSS SPECIFICS. >> I'LL BE HAPPY TO BE THERE THURSDAY AFTERNOON AS WELL TO PARTICIPATE. THANK YOU. >> JUST ONE MORE POINT WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE WORKING THROUGH IT IS, THINK ABOUT AND REVIEW OTHER INCENTIVE CITIES HAVE TO HELP HOMEOWNERS WHO ALREADY HAVE HISTORIC HOMES TO HELP RESTORE THEM BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL STATUS. THEN ALSO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR US TO EVENTUALLY TO JOEY'S POINT, CARVE OUT DIFFERENT AREAS IF WE WANTED TO, HYPOTHETICALLY, AN ART DISTRICT OR WHATEVER WE WANTED TO DO IN THE FUTURE. AS LONG AS OUR HANDS AREN'T TIED, I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT YOU CAN KEEP THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US SO ITEM 5.B, DISCUSS TRANSPORTATION FOR SENIORS AND THE DISABLED, ACTING CITY MANAGER, MARC MARCHAND. >> THANKS, MAYOR, COUNSEL. WE KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT OUR STAFF HAS EXPLORED OPTIONS IN THE PAST AND REACHED OUT TO SOME OF OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS AND IDENTIFIED SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS WITH TRANSPORTATION NEEDS. THE CITY OF ANNA IS AN INTERESTING GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION AT A TIME IN OUR HISTORY, WHERE WE'RE OUTSIDE OF ONE, WE WILL EVENTUALLY QUALIFY FOR OTHERS, AND WE'RE JUST NOT QUITE THERE YET. KIMBERLY IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION AND SHOW YOU SOME OF THE OPTIONS AND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND KIMBERLY FOR HER CREATIVITY AND FINDING POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AND FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. SO KIMBERLY, I'LL LET YOU GO THROUGH THE SLIDES. >> I PRETENDED TO SIT DOWN BECAUSE I KNEW I WAS COMING BACK UP. OVER THE PAST AT LEAST THE FIVE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THE CITY, LOOKING FOR TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS FOR SENIORS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. OF COURSE, OVER THAT TIME, STAFF HAS BEEN REVIEWING THE IDEAS THAT HAVE COME UP, THE QUESTIONS THAT NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD, THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THERE MAY BE FOR THE CITY TO BETTER SERVE ITS NEIGHBORS IN THIS REGARD. I STRUCTURED THIS PRESENTATION JUST TO BRIEFLY COVER PREVIOUS TRANSIT DISCUSSIONS. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY, AND I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE IN CASE THE COUNCIL HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND THE CONSIDERATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO FINDING TRANSPORTATION THAT WOULD REALLY FIT THE CITY OF ANNA, AND THEN I BROUGHT FORTH SOME INFORMATION, SO THE PFETCH A RIDE PROGRAM IN PFLUGERVILLE HAS COME UP ON A FEW DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS, I THINK IS PROBABLY MOST FEASIBLE FOR THE CITY, AND SO I WANT TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON SOME OPTIONS FROM THEM THAT THEY'VE SHARED WITH US. >> WELL, THERE WE GO. SOME PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS ON TRANSIT THAT CITY HAS HAD OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. MUCH EARLIER, WHEN THE CITY WAS SMALLER, THERE WAS A CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, HEY, WOULD THE CITY BE ABLE TO FACILITATE A VOLUNTEER-LED APPROACH, WHERE WHETHER THE CITY HAS A VEHICLE AND PEOPLE SIGN UP TO VOLUNTEER FOR SHIFTS TO BRING PEOPLE TO THEIR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS. WE DID REVIEW THAT RELATIVELY BRIEFLY, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE A LOT OF LIABILITY ON THE CITY, AND SO NOT A FEASIBLE OPTION. OFTENTIMES, WE GET ASKED ABOUT COLLIN COUNTY TRANSIT, WHICH IS THE PROGRAM THAT IS SOUTH OF US. I CURRENTLY SERVES MELISSA. IT'S RUN OUT OF MCKINNEY AND SERVES FRISCO AS WELL, AND A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES. IN 2020, THERE WAS HOPE THAT WHEN THE CENSUS DATA WAS AVAILABLE AND THE DISTRICTS WERE REDRAWN FOR THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT THAT THIS PROGRAM SERVES IS BUILT FOR, THAT IT WOULD GROW TO ENCOMPASS ANNA, AND IT DID NOT. [00:35:04] THAT IS SOMETHING IN 2030, THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY THAT WHEN THE CENSUS IS COMPLETE AND A YEAR OR TWO LATER, WHEN THEY ADJUST THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COULD PARTICIPATE IN THE FUTURE. BUT RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST WE CANNOT PARTICIPATE AND RECEIVE THE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT GO INTO THAT DISTRICT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I GET THE QUESTION FROM TIME TO TIME, WHY THE CITY OF MELISSA IS A PART OF IT WHEN THEY ARE NOT TECHNICALLY PART OF THAT DISTRICT ANYMORE. THEY STILL HAVE FUNDING FROM THEIR PREVIOUS PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM, AND SO THEY ARE TECHNICALLY A PART OF THE PROGRAM UNTIL THEIR FUNDING RUNS OUT. ONCE THEIR FUNDING RUNS OUT, THEY WILL BE IN THE SAME POSITION THAT WE ARE. RURAL TRANSIT DISTRICT. THIS IS SOMETHING WHEN KIMBERLY GARDUNO WAS HERE AND KEVIN MARTIN. THEY SPENT A GOOD DEAL OF TIME REVIEWING WHETHER IT WAS POSSIBLE TO ESTABLISH A RURAL TRANSIT DISTRICT. SOME OF THESE DESIGNATIONS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY ARE AVENUES IN WHICH FEDERAL FUNDS COULD BE PROVIDED TO OFFSET THE COST OF THESE PROGRAMS. WHEN THEY LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY COULD ESTABLISH A RURAL TRANSIT DISTRICT, THEY HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS, AND THE OUTCOME WAS THAT THE COUNTY WAS THE APPROPRIATE GOVERNING BODY TO ESTABLISH THAT. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE COUNTY DID NOT HAVE AN APPETITE TO ESTABLISH THAT RURAL TRANSIT DISTRICT. YES. WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT THE TRANSIT PROVIDERS THAT MANY OF THEM THAT ARE AROUND US. TAX ABOVE US. THERE IS SCRIPT, WHICH IS NEXT TO US IN HUNT COUNTY. THOSE ARE PROVIDERS THAT SERVE A RURAL TRANSIT DISTRICT. THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FUNDING THAT COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. LET'S SEE. IN CONVERSATIONS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE MET WITH NORTH CENTRAL, TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. THEY ARE OUR METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, AND SO THEY ARE OUR RESOURCE WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AS IT EXISTS OUTSIDE THE CITY'S BOUNDARIES. THEY'VE GUIDED US IN SOME DIRECTION, SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT. ONE THING, WE APPROACHED THE DCTA TO SEE IF THEY WOULD EVER BE INTERESTED IN COMING INTO THIS AREA. THEY SAID NOT AT THIS TIME, POTENTIALLY IN A FIVE-YEAR WINDOW. WE LOOKED AT, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH SMALLER PUBLIC TRANSIT PROVIDERS, AND SOME OF THE SCRIPT SPAN STAR, STAR WAS NOT INTERESTED. SPAN SAID MAYBE IN FIVE YEARS, AND SCRIPT SAID, YES, BUT THEY DO COME WITH A HIGHER PRICE TAG THAN THE UBER PROGRAM WOULD COME WITH. I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. PREVIOUSLY, WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION, WE'VE TALKED WITH VIA TRANSPORTATION. KIMBERLY GARDUNO PRESENTED THAT TO COUNCIL. IF YOU RECALL VIA TRANSPORTATION IS A BUS SYSTEM. YOU'VE ESSENTIALLY GOT YOUR TWO BUSES THAT GO AROUND THE CITY TO SPECIFIC VIRTUAL BUS STOPS, ESSENTIALLY. IT'S VERY COOL USE OF TECHNOLOGY. BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE YOUR DOOR-TO-DOOR SERVICE, I THINK THAT SOME OF OUR SENIORS ARE LOOKING FOR. IT DOES COME WITH A RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANT PRICE TAG, AT THE TIME, 800,000, 900,000. THEN AGAIN, A TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE ONLY WITHIN CITY LIMITS, AND SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT. WE LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN PARTNERING WITH A PRIVATE PROVIDER. WITH THE IDEA THAT MAYBE THE PRIVATE PROVIDER WOULD NOT HAVE TO ESTABLISH AN ENTIRE OPERATION IN THE AREA. MAYBE IF WE HAD A VOUCHER PROGRAM, WE COULD RELY ON THEM WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY AROSE RATHER THAN HAVING THEM FULLY ESTABLISH A PROGRAM HERE AND HAVE THE ADDITIONAL COSTS. WITH THE PRIVATE PROVIDER THAT I MET WITH, THEY ESSENTIALLY SAID, WE WOULD CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE OPERATE, AND SO WE WOULD WANT YOUR FULL CONTRACT RATHER THAN THE VOUCHER PROGRAM. I THINK THE UTILITY OF THAT WASN'T WHAT WE EXPECTED IT TO BE. BUT THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW THAT THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. AGAIN, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND CONSIDERATIONS. ACTING CITY MANAGER, MARC MARCHAND, MENTIONED, THE CITY IS IN A RELATIVELY UNIQUE POSITION, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THERE ARE MANY RURAL TRANSIT DISTRICTS. THERE ARE ONLY EIGHT COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT ARE NOT SERVED BY A RURAL TRANSIT DISTRICT. FIVE OF THOSE EIGHT COUNTIES ARE MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS, AND SO THEY ARE COVERED MORE OR LESS BY THE CITIES, THE URBAN TRANSIT PROGRAMS. THERE ARE THREE COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, COLLIN COUNTY INCLUDED, THAT DON'T HAVE A RURAL TRANSIT DISTRICT, BUT ALSO DON'T HAVE YOUR CITY THE SIZE OF DALLAS OR SAN ANTONIO THAT'S SERVING THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. UNIQUE POSITION, LET'S SEE. [00:40:01] ANOTHER CONSIDERATION FOR COUNSEL TO THINK THROUGH. I THINK OFTENTIMES WHEN NEIGHBORS REACH OUT, WE'LL OR WE'LL HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE SAYING, I'M A SENIOR, I'M LOOKING FOR THE TRANSPORTATION TO MY MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS. OVER TIME, WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. I'VE HEARD FROM SENIORS LOOKING TO GET TO OUR REC PROGRAMMING, I'VE HEARD FROM PARENTS WITH CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES LOOKING FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WORK BY THEMSELVES. THE LOCATION THAT THE PROGRAM WOULD SERVE OR THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROGRAM IT GETS COMPLICATED. IN THE CAPACITY THAT A LOT OF THE DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS THAT SENIORS ARE TRYING TO GO TO AREN'T WITHIN CITY LIMITS, BUT A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS OR THE MOST COST-EFFICIENT PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WOULD BE CITY LIMITS. THE BIGGER THE SPACE, THE MORE COSTLY IT WOULD BE. THE TIMELINE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING CONSIDERATION. JUST AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT SOME PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING TO THE CITY IN 5-10 YEARS. WE DO HAVE IN 2030 THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE MUTD, OR THE COLLIN COUNTY TRANSIT. ADDITIONALLY, WHEN MELISSA'S FUNDING RUNS OUT, IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY'LL BE IN THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN, AND THEN SUDDENLY WE'VE GOT MAYBE MORE HANDS, MORE PEOPLE TO SERVE, AND MAYBE THERE'S A SYNERGY OF RESOURCES THERE IN SOME CAPACITY. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO AS TWO CITIES THAT WE CAN'T DO ON OUR OWN. SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS. WE DO HAVE RELATIVELY LIMITED DATA. SOME CITIES, WHEN THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING A TRANSIT PROGRAM, THEY HAVE A PREVIOUS TRANSIT PROGRAM THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE OR THEY WANTED TO MAKE MORE COST-EFFICIENT. WE HAVE RELATIVELY LIMITED DATA. WE TALK TO THE COLLIN COUNTY TRANSIT. THE FETTER RIDE, THE CONSULTANT WHO WORKS ON THE FETTER RIDE PROGRAM, ALSO DOES THE PROGRAMMING FOR COLLIN COUNTY TRANSIT. THEY GAVE US SOME INSIGHT INTO WILEY, AND SO WILEY POPULATION IS ABOUT 65,000. THEY'RE HAVING ABOUT 70-100 RIDERS A MONTH WHO ARE REQUIRING THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE, WHICH IS OUR BEST WAY OF MEASURING HOW MANY SENIORS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE SPECIFICALLY USING THEIR PROGRAM. OTHER THAN THAT, THOUGH, WHEN WE HAVE THE ANTI-COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS COMING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, WE DID HAVE A SPECIALIZED SESSION OR SECTION IN THAT SURVEY THAT ASKED PEOPLE WHETHER OR NOT THEIR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS WERE MET IN THE CITY. WE HOPE TO HAVE MORE DATA, MORE MEANINGFUL DATA, SOON. THEN SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, TOO. WE HAVE MORE SENIOR LIVING THAT'S COMING INTO THE CITY RIGHT AS THE CITY DEVELOPS. THEN IT HAS BEEN A FOCUS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO BRING IN SOME MORE MEDICAL BUILDINGS, AND SO POTENTIALLY THE CITY THAT EXISTS IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW MAYBE HAS MORE RESOURCES, MORE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO THEIR MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS IN A WAY THAT THEY DON'T CURRENTLY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE REACHED OUT TO TRIPP, WHO IS THE CONSULTANT, THE BUSINESS WHO PUTS TOGETHER THE UBER PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT WITH THE FETCH A RIDE. WE ASKED THEM FOR TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THEIR REGULAR PROGRAM IS BOTH IN UBER PARTNERSHIP BUT IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH A PROVIDER THAT PROVIDES WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES SPECIFICALLY. THOSE TWO THINGS OPERATE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SOME BACKGROUND ON THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE. THAT IS, SOMEBODY WITH AN AMBULATORY DISABILITY WOULD UTILIZE A WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE. THERE'S A LOT OF ADA COMPLIANCE THAT GOES INTO THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT VEHICLE. IN THE OPERATIONS THAT SURROUND THAT. BUT OPTION 1 WOULD INCLUDE IT WOULD SERVE ALL AND NEIGHBORS. THIS WOULD BE A PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO ANYBODY, NOT JUST SENIORS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. THE BOUNDARIES WOULD BE THE CITY LIMITS. OPERATE 6:00 A.M. TO 8:00 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, EVERY DAY. THE WAY THE RIDE SHARE WOULD WORK IS THAT THE USER WOULD PAY THE FIRST $4. THE CITY WOULD PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT. WE'VE ESTIMATED $10 AS PART OF THE VOUCHER PROGRAM, AND THEN THE USER WOULD PAY ANYTHING ADDITIONAL AFTER THAT. THEY'VE GOT THEIR BUY-IN. THEY'RE NOT JUST, HEY, I'M TAKING A TRIP TO OKLAHOMA ON THE CITY'S DOLLAR THERE. BUT THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES, BECAUSE THOSE ARE MORE REGULATED WHEN IT COMES TO ADA COMPLIANCE, THOSE WOULD COST $4 PER TRIP, AND IT WOULD OPERATE VERY SIMILARLY TO SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING YOU'VE SEEN IN OTHER PLACES WHERE PAY A SET FEE AND IT HELPS SENIORS PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES GET AROUND MORE EFFICIENTLY. THE COST FOR THAT IS ABOUT 235,000. THEN THE OPTION 2, THIS WOULD SERVE SPECIFICALLY SENIORS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. AGAIN, THE CITY LIMITS WOULD BE THE PROGRAM BOUNDARIES, WOULD OPERATE THE SAME HOURS AS THE UBER AND THE UBER VERSION. [00:45:02] IT WOULD ONLY HAVE THE TRIPS FOR THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES. IT WOULD NOT HAVE THE UBER PARTNERSHIP. IT WOULD JUST HAVE THE FACILITATION OF THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES TO SERVE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND SENIORS. NOW, THERE IS SOME COST SAVINGS. IT'S AN INTERESTING FORMULA THERE, BUT OFTENTIMES, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DISABILITIES THAT PEOPLE HAVE. ALSO, AS A SENIOR, SOMETIMES SENIORS WOULD PREFER TO TAKE YOUR REGULAR UBER VERSUS A WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE. THERE ARE SOME COST SAVINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE COST PER RIDE FOR OPTION 1 VERSUS OPTION 2. BUT OPTION 2 REALLY FOCUSES, I THINK ON THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THAT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE WITH A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. ONE TO SHARE THESE OPTIONS WITH COUNCIL AND THE CONSIDERATIONS, AND I THINK SOME OF THE CHALLENGES IN ADDRESSING THIS PROBLEM. WITH THAT, I'LL ASK FOR YOUR FEEDBACK, THOUGHTS, IF THIS IS A DIRECTION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE MORE FROM FOR STAFF INTO THE FUTURE. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GETTING US ALL TOGETHER. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS HOPING TO SEE TONIGHT. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S BEING UTILIZED ALREADY DOWN BY AUSTIN AND PFLUGERVILLE, AND IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL DOWN THERE. I THINK IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS, WE COULD ALWAYS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GEOFENCE ANNA, UBER, AND WAVE. I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE OVER THERE, BUT WE COULD ADD MELISSA TO IT, AND THEN THE. THEN WE SHARE THE COST, MAYBE MCKINNEY DOWN THE ROAD, WHO KNOWS? THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS HERE, AND THIS IS REALLY A FLEXIBLE THING TO DO. WE COULD ALSO SAY NEW YEAR'S EVE, WE KEEP IT OPEN TO 2:00 A.M. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN GET HOME, AND I WOULD RATHER PAY $4 TO GET SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING HOME THAN TO HAVE ONE OF OUR AMBULANCES TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS ALL UP HERE, AND I'VE RESEARCHED THE HECK OUT OF IT. IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> I WANT TO CONCUR WITH THE MAYOR. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG TIME, SO I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD. I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF YOUR PROJECTS, SO I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD. A COUPLE OF THINGS I DID WANT TO MENTION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POINT OF VIEW OR JUST AN ECONOMICS POINT OF VIEW, THIS IS ACTUALLY GREAT BECAUSE NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PAY FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS ON BUS FLEETS, HAVING TO HIRE LABOR AND EMPLOYEES TO MAINTAIN AND DRIVE EVERYTHING, THEN THE STAFF FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS, PLUS YOU'VE GOT PENSIONS. IS A WHOLE SLEW OF THINGS. THIS REMOVES ALL OF THOSE EXPENSIVE OPTIONS. PLUS, WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO DRIVE UBERS IN TOWN FOR THEM TO GENERATE SOME REVENUE AS WELL AND TO KEEP THAT REVENUE LOCAL WITHIN ANNA. I THINK THERE'S TRUE VALUE FOR THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON IS THE FIGURES THAT YOU CAME TO 235 AND 220. HOW DID YOU COME TO THOSE NUMBERS? WHAT IS THE DEMAND THAT YOU'RE USING APPROXIMATELY? >> THOSE NUMBERS WERE PROVIDED BY TRIP. BUT LET ME PULL OUT FOR MORE SPECIFIC. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, IN OPTION 1, TRIP ESTIMATES YEARLY ANNUALLY IN THE PROGRAM, WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT 8,000 RIDE SHARE TRIPS AND THEN ABOUT 1,500 WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE TRIPS. THEY'RE BASING THOSE NUMBERS OFF THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE FROM WILEY, AND THEN IN THE MUTD, MELISSA, AND HOW MANY RIDES THAT THEY'VE HAD USING THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES. IN OPTION 2, WE DON'T HAVE THE RIDE-SHARE PORTION OF THE PROGRAM. THEY'RE ESTIMATING A NUMBER OF 2000 WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE TRIPS. AGAIN, THE REASON BEING THAT SOME SENIORS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, WOULD OPT TO TAKE JUST THE REGULAR UBER VERSUS THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE. THERE IS SOME COST SAVINGS, SIGNIFICANTLY. COST PER TRIP, I SHOULD SAY, IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WHEN YOU GO THE RIDE SHARE ROUTE VERSUS JUST THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE ROUTE. BUT OVERALL, THE COST IS HIGHER FOR RIDE CHAIR AND THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE ROUTE. WITH OPTION 2 OBVIOUSLY CUTS OUT THE RIDE SHARE COST ESTIMATE OR THE COST OF THE VOUCHERS THAT THE CITY WOULD BE PROVIDING FOR THE RIDE SHARE. IN OPTION 1, THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE COST ESTIMATE IS LOWER BECAUSE YOU'RE THINKING, AND MORE PEOPLE MIGHT TAKE THE RIDE CHAIR VERSUS THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE. THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS RELATIVELY SIMILAR. OPTION 1 DOES HAVE A HIGHER IMPLEMENTATION COST BECAUSE YOU ARE STRUCTURING TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS VERSUS JUST THE ONE. THEN THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, THOUGH, IS HIGHER FOR OPTION 2, BECAUSE THERE IS MORE TIME SPENT ON REGULATING WHO CAN ACCESS THE PROGRAM AND WHO CANNOT, [00:50:07] JUST BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO SPECIFIC POPULATIONS. >> PERFECT. YOU ANSWERED MANY QUESTION, WHICH WAS JUST WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, ENSURE THAT THERE'S STRICT GUARDRAILS FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND THAT THEY'RE EASILY ACCESSIBLE. THEN, FINALLY, YOU MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS BEFORE. COLLIN COUNTY PROVIDES A SERVICE RIGHT NOW, TOO? I BELIEVE THE SERVICE MELISSA AS WELL. WHAT'S PREVENTING THEM FROM COMING HERE? >> THAT'S COLLIN COUNTY TRANSIT, AND COLLIN COUNTY TRANSIT SERVES THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY TO EXPLAIN IT SUCCINCTLY. >> THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES ON THAT ARE DEFINED BY DENSITY AND CENSUS DATA. IN 2020, WE WERE REALLY HOPING THAT THE DENSITY IN ANNA WOULD SHOW THAT WE SHOULD BE A PART OF THE BOUNDARY OR THE DISTRICT, AND INSTEAD, THEY REDREW IT TO INCORPORATE MORE FRISCO, AND IT ELIMINATED MELISSA FROM THAT PROGRAM. THE REASON MELISSA IS STILL IN THAT PROGRAM IS BECAUSE THEIR FUNDING HAS NOT RUN OUT. I ASKED THE COG IN TALKING WITH MELISSA WHEN THEY ESTIMATE THEIR FUNDING MIGHT RUN OUT, AND THEY'RE THINKING, 2028, 2029. THEY STILL CAN PARTICIPATE UNTIL THEIR FUNDING IS GONE, ESSENTIALLY, BUT THEY WILL BE IN THE SAME POSITION WE ARE IN A FEW YEARS. >> AT LEAST MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BETA TEST IT, SHOW HOW IT'S RUN, SHOW THE EFFICIENCY OF IT, THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN SELL TO SOME OF THE PARTNERS TO WHO JOIN FOR US. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR REALLY HARD WORK ON THIS. APPRECIATE IT. >> I'M ASSUMING THE NUMBERS FROM TRIP ARE COMING FROM CURRENT UP-TO-DATE. >> YES. WE GOT A QUOTE FROM THEM IN MAY, AND SO THE CURRENT QUOTE EXPIRES OR RECENTLY EXPIRED, BUT I IMAGINE THE NUMBERS WOULD BE RELATIVELY SIMILAR. >> WHEN I WAS IN THE SAME TML CLASS WITH THE MAYOR, WAS THAT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO? MAYOR? >> I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN DOING IT FOR A YEAR OR TWO, AND THEY STARTED OUT SMALL. LIKE, $75,000 ON THEIR BUDGET. BUT THEN THEY OPT IT WHENEVER IT GOT WHENEVER THEY GREW, IT GROWS. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE DO THE SAME? DO WE HAVE TO START AT 2:35, OR CAN WE START LOWER? I'M NOT SAYING START AT 75, BUT START LOWER BECAUSE I WOULD FOR SURE WANT TO SEE OPTION ONE BECAUSE THERE ARE SENIORS THAT ARE UNABLE TO DRIVE THAT HAVE CERTAIN INSURANCE, AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE THEIR MAIN PRIMARY DOCTOR MAY NOT BE IN ANNA, AS OF YET. THEY MAY NOT HAVE AN OPTION IN ANNA, AND THEY MIGHT BE IN MCKINNEY. SO ONE OPTION 1 WOULD BE THE IDEAL ONE TO START WITH. >> I THINK THESE COST ESTIMATES THAT'S JUST TO GET IT BUDGETED. IT'S ALL GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW MANY PEOPLE UTILIZE THE SERVICE. IF WE REALLY WANTED TO, WE COULD CAP THEM AT FOUR RIDES FOR JUST NORMAL HOW THEY CAP THEM. THEY OPT THEM LIKE FOUR RIDES A MONTH, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE SENIORS, EXCUSE ME, AND DISABLED FOLKS. THERE WAS NO CAP ON THAT. BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE I, OF COURSE, THIS IS GREAT IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GO SEE A DOCTOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WHAT IF THEY JUST WANT TO GO TO THE LIBRARY, OR THEY JUST WANT TO GO GET SOME GROCERIES? KNOW THAT RIGHT. IT GIVES THEM OPTIONS. THE ABILITY TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND GETTING OUT OF THE HOUSE IS VERY IMPORTANT. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DISABLED OR RETIRED. >> TO COUNCILMAN SINGH'S POINT, ADDING JOBS, THE MAYOR OF I THINK IT WAS THE MAYOR OR ONE OF THE COUNCILMEN IN PFLUGERVILLE, STARTED BEARING JUST TO MAKE SOME EXTRA CASH. BECAUSE THIS IS AN UNPAID POSITION. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. I LIKE OPTION 1. I FEEL IT CAN BENEFIT. WE ALL KNOW THERE'S SENIORS FOR SURE AND DISABLED PEOPLE THAT WILL USE THIS BECAUSE MOST OF US HAS RECEIVED A LOT OF E MAILS, ESPECIALLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO IN ONE MONTH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEP. >> THIS HAS BEEN FANTASTIC FEEDBACK. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. OUR NEXT STEPS IS GOING TO BE TO ONE WE'LL GET SOME UPDATED INFORMATION FROM THE COMPANY THAT KIMBERLY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH. HAVE AN UPDATED CONTRACT. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND WHAT THE BUDGET WOULD LOOK LIKE. >> SORRY TO INTERRUPT. CAN WE GO AHEAD AND APPROACH MELISSA? BECAUSE WE DO THE MAYOR AND A COUPLE OF [00:55:02] COUNCILMEN ALREADY SAID THAT THEY WOULD JUMP ON IT IN A HEARTBEAT AS WELL. SO WHEN WE DO START THIS, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND APPROACH THEM AND SEE IF THEY JUST WANT TO JOIN IN? >> BE HAPPY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO SEE IF THEY'D LIKE TO JOIN US AND WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU, WE'LL HAVE THEIR ANSWER FOR THAT. >> THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO EXPAND OUR BOUNDARIES POSSIBLY, AS WELL AS THE VALUE OF SERVICE SINCE EACH OF OUR THREE CITIES HAS ITS OWN, QUALITIES. I LOVE THAT THIS STIMULATES THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THIS IS THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE OTHER METHODS WE LOOKED AT WHICH WERE BANKRUPTY TO ORGANIZATIONS. WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN WITH ONE THAT USED TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO US. MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT TML MEETING I WAS IN THAT DAY, BUT I SURE WISH I WAS IN YOURS BECAUSE MINE WAS BORING. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. BUT WHEN YOU ALL CAME BACK FROM THIS, YOU'RE LIKE, I THINK WE FOUND AN ANSWER. STAFF, I APPRECIATE WORKING ON THIS. TO ME, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS A MORE PRUDENT USE OF TAX DOLLARS OUR ROADS. THIS KEEPS US FROM HAVING TO BUILD BUS LANES AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT IT REQUIRES TO RUN THIS. I ALWAYS WONDER EVERY TIME I SEE A BUS GOING DOWN THE ROAD WITH ONE OR TWO PASSENGERS. WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR THAT? THANK YOU FOR COMING UP WITH SOMETHING. I DO IF YOU NEED US TO, WE CAN TALK TO OUR FELLOW ELECTED AND NEIGHBORING, IF YOU NEED US TO. THEN THE LAST PART, IS IT ANY UBER DRIVERS GOING WITH THIS PROGRAM? IS IT ANY UBER DRIVERS THAT CAN PARTICIPATE OR IS IT A SPECIALLY DESIGNATED UBER DRIVER? >> TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, IT WOULD BE ANY UBER DRIVER THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE. YOU WOULD HAVE WITH THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES, PART OF BOTH PROGRAMS, THAT IS A TRAINED DRIVER WHO KNOWS IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY WITH AN AMBULATORY DISABILITY WHO MAY STRUGGLE TO GET INTO THE VEHICLE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST THAT PERSON. NOW, IF SOMEBODY OPTS FOR THE REGULAR UBER IF WE'RE DOING OPTION 1, THEN THEY'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A REGULAR UBER DRIVER. DOES THAT ANSWER. >> THANK YOU. >> TWO POINTS CAME UP DURING OUR WONDERFUL CONVERSATION HERE. ANOTHER GOOD POINT OF THIS IS IT'S GOING TO HELP REDUCE A LOT OF THE VOLUME OF VEHICLES ON THE ROAD BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE THIS TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION. IT'S GOING TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONGESTION AS WELL. BUT ALSO, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MULTI FAMILY ZONE THAT WE HAVE, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WAS, MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT SENIOR HOMES IN SOME OF THOSE MULTI FAMILY AREAS. BUT BUILDING THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE SENIORS, THOSE START LOOKING A LOT MORE PALATABLE AND SELLABLE FOR A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPERS AS WELL. THIS IS A FULL 360 WIN IN MULTIPLE CATEGORIES, AND I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, GUYS. THIS IS FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. >> I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE DO NEED OPTION 1 BECAUSE OPTION 2 ALIENATES A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> THAT'S BASICALLY MY POINT TOO. THERE ARE TIMES LIKE MAYOR SAID TO CERTAIN HOLIDAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, TO EXPAND IT AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY. >> THAT IS A FEATURE OF THE PROGRAM IS THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AT SPECIFIC POINTS OF THE YEAR IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO A SPECIFIC EVENT OR IF THERE'S A BIG CITY EVENT. THERE IS A CUSTOMIZABLE, I THINK OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS TO USE MAYBE YOUR NON STANDARD HOURS OR EVEN CHANGE THE WAY THAT THE VOUCHERS ARE FUNDED. IF YOU WANTED TO GET PEOPLE TO A SPECIFIC EVENT, YOU WANTED TO COVER THE COST OF IT, I THINK YOU COULD DO THAT WITH OPTION 1. >> ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION, AND I THINK WE ARE VERY ENCOURAGED TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS. THANK YOU ALL, VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT TAKES US ON TO AGENDA ITEM 6 CONSENT ITEMS. [6. Consent Items.] THESE ITEMS CONSIST OF NON CONTROVERSIAL OR HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW. ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUESTS PRIOR TO A MOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. COUNSEL, IS THERE ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL. >> I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM H. >> WHICH ONE? >> H. >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PULL ITEM I AND J. [01:00:06] >> IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 6A- K. >> I SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOU WOULD PLEASE CAT YOUR VOTES. ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT WILL TAKE US DOWN TO 6H. [6.h. Approve a Resolution regarding a waiver of the Subdivision Regulations for Willoughby Three Creeks Ranch Estates, Block A, Lots 1-10, Replat (RP 25- 0006) (Planning Manager Lauren Mecke)] APPROVE A RESOLUTION REGARDING A WAIVER OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS FOR WILLOUGHBY THREE CREEKS RANCH ESTATES, BLOCK A, LOTS 1-10, R 25-0006, PLANNING MANAGER LAUREN ME. >> GOOD EVENING. THIS ITEM IS TO WAIVE THE REGULATION WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS FOR THE LENGTH OF A COL DESAT STREET. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS PROPERTY IS ON OUR VERY FAR WESTERN EDGE SO FAR SO THAT MOST OF IT'S NOT EVEN IN OUR ETJ. THE ONLY REASON WHY THE PLAT IS COMING THROUGH US IS BECAUSE OF THE STATE LAW THAT SAYS BETWEEN WESTON AND ANNA, ANNA HAS A BIGGER POPULATION. THE REQUEST IS TO DIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO NINE LOTS. THIS WOULD BE ABOUT LESS THAN 1,300 FEET IN LENGTH. OUR REQUIREMENT IS A MAXIMUM OF 600 FEET, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COUNSEL APPROVING THIS WAIVER. >> TO THE WILLOUGHBY FAMILY, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING OUT IN THE ETJ. WHAT MAKES THIS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ITEM WE HAD COME TO US, COME IN FRONT OF US IN THE ETJ? >> THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY THIS ONE IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. OF COURSE, IT BEING IN THE ETJ, WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER LAND USE, BUT IT IS BEING SUBDIVIDED INTO ONE AND FIVE ACRE LOTS. THERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THROUGH LOT ONE THAT CONNECTS TO THREE CREEKS LANE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. THERE IS MORE FIRE ACCESSIBILITY IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS TO GO OUT AND RESPOND. >> THIS ONE IS BECOMING A SUBDIVISION, CORRECT? UNLIKE THE OTHER? >> CORRECT. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS, THE STAFF, THE COUNCIL, TO JUST ANYONE IN THE FUTURE. IT'S IN THE EPJ. I FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO AND MOVE ON AND NOT BE REGULATED BY A CITY BECAUSE THEY LIVE OUT THERE. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT IF ANYBODY ELSE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS, BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6H. >> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, ITEM 6H, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, TAKES US TO SIX I. [6.i. Approve an Ordinance authorizing the Issuance of the "City of Anna, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2025 (Sherley Tract Public Improvement District No. 2 Improvement Area #1 Project)"; approving, authorizing and ratifying an Amended and Restated Indenture of Trust, a Bond Purchase Agreement, a Preliminary Official Statement, a Continuing Disclosure Agreement and other agreements and documents in connection therewith; making findings with respect to the issuance of such Bonds; and providing an effective date. (Director of Economic Development Joey Grisham)] APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITY OF ANNA TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2025, SHIRLEY PACK IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2, IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 1, APPROVING AUTHORIZING AND RATIFYING AN AMENDMENT AND RESTATED INDENTURE OF TRUST, A BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT, A PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, A CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, AND OTHER AGREEMENTS AND DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH, MAKING FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH BONDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MR. JOEY GRISHAM. MARATHAS A LOT TO READ HERE. ANDRE IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT. HE APPRECIATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BECAUSE HE DROVE A LONG WAY FROM DALLAS, SO HE WILL FEEL LIKE HE HAD A FRUITFUL TRIP. THIS IS ABOUT THE BONDS RELATED AS HE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING FOR THE SHIRLEY TRACT WHICH IS NORTH. SOME PEOPLE CALL IT HURRICANE CREEK NORTH. IF YOU RECALL IN 2021, ASSESSMENTS WERE LEVIED FOR 9.4 MILLION EXCUSE ME 13.5 MILLION, BUT ONLY 9.4 MILLION WAS BONDED. THAT'S REALLY WHAT BROUGHT THIS WARDS THE ADDITIONAL TESTS THAT NEED TO BE MET BEFORE THAT ADDITIONAL AMOUNT COULD BE BONDED. YOU WANT TO GIVE SOME UPDATES FROM TODAY? >> THANK YOU, JOY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNSEL ANDRE AL WITH HOLD UP SECURITIES, CITY IS FINANCIAL ADVISOR. AS JOY INDICATED, THIS IS THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE FOR THE BONDS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. THIS IS THE SHIRLEY TRACT PIT NUMBER 2 IMPROVEMENT AREA PARITY BOND. [01:05:03] AS JOE INDICATED, BACK IN 2021, THE CITY LEVIED ASSESSMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $13,557,000. HOWEVER, THE CITY ONLY BONDED 9.4 MILLION DOLLAR. IN THE AGREEMENT WITH THE PROJECT DEVELOPER AT THAT TIME, THE REMAINDER OF $4,157,000 WAS LEFT AS A REIMBURSEMENT NOTE. THE ASSESSMENTS WERE LEVIED BACK THEN. THEY HAVE BEEN COLLECTED SINCE AND THEY HAVE BEEN PAID IN ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS TO THE PROJECT DEVELOPER. THE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY SIGNED WITH THIS DEVELOPER BACK IN 2021 SAID THAT IF THE PROJECT SUCCEEDED, WHICH IT HAS, AND THEY MET ALL THE TESTS AS INCLUDED IN THE 2021 TRUST INDENTURE, THAT THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO REQUEST BONDING THIS REIMBURSEMENT CASH FLOW, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY REQUESTED. WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEKS AGO WAS THE BONDING OF THAT CASH FLOW, AND TONIGHT, WE'RE PRESENTING YOU THE FINAL RESULTS OF THE BOND, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE DETAILS, I CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE FINAL TRANSACTION SUMMARY OF THE BOND. WHEN I WAS HERE, COUNSEL, I MENTIONED THAT WE HAD A PRELIMINARY PAR AMOUNT OF THE BOND OF $3,599,000. THAT PAR AMOUNT, COUNSEL COULD NOT EXCEED 04,156,000 BECAUSE THAT WAS THE AMOUNT OUTSTANDING ON THE NOTES. THE FINAL BOND AMOUNT, COUNSEL ENDED UP BEING $3,593,000. WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THAT? THE IMPACT OF THAT IS THAT THE LIEN ON THOSE PROPERTIES HAS GONE DOWN. IF WE HAD 4,566,000 SPREAD AMONGST THE 499 LOTS, NOW WE HAVE A LOWER AMOUNT. THE LIEN HAS GONE DOWN. THE CASH FLOW THAT THIS HOME OWNERS PAY OR PROPERTY OWNERS PAY WITHIN AREA ONE OF THE PID DIDN'T CHANGE. THAT REMAINS THE SAME. WHAT HAPPENED HERE WAS THAT BACK IN 2021, THE REIMBURSEMENT NOTE CARRIED A LOWER INTEREST RATE BECAUSE INTEREST RATES WERE LOWER BACK THEN. NOW THAT INTEREST RATES ARE HIGHER, WE USE THE SAME CASH FLOW, COUNSEL AT A HIGHER INTEREST RATE, WHICH DRIVES A LIEN DOWN. THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP WITH $3,593,000. >> THE AMORTIZATION OF THE BOND IS EXACTLY WHAT THE AMORTIZATION OF THE NOTE WAS. THIS MATURES IN SEPTEMBER 15 OF 2051. IN THE FINAL BOND IN HERE, I MENTIONED THAT I WAS GOING TO TAKE THE CITY TO THE BOND INSURERS TO SEE IF WE CAN BUMP A RATING TO DO [INAUDIBLE]. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT. WE DID QUALIFY FOR BOND INSURANCE, BUT I DID NOT RECOMMEND THAT TO THE CITY BECAUSE IT WAS SIMPLY TOO EXPENSIVE. I HAVE TO CERTIFY TO YOU AND TO THE IRS THAT IT MAKE SENSE? IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. WE CHOSE TO GO WITHOUT BOND INSURANCE ON THIS ONE. THE CASH FLOW COUNSEL IS NO MORE THAN $279,824 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAD IN THE NOTE. THE AVERAGE PAYMENT ON THIS BOND CANNOT EXCEED THAT. THAT INCLUDES RESERVES, ADDITIONAL INTEREST FOR DELINQUENCIES, ETC. THAT IS THE CASH FLOW THAT WE HAVE HERE. AS FAR AS THE SOURCES AND USES, COUNSEL, AS I MENTIONED, OUR PRELIMINARY PAR AMOUNT WAS 3,599,000, WE WENT DOWN TO 3,593,000, $6,000 LESS. THE FINAL DEPOSIT FOR THE PAYOUT TO THE DEVELOPER. WHAT THIS DEVELOPER WILL GET IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS BOND IS $2,921,000. THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO FOREGO THIS ANNUAL INSTALLMENT THAT WE WERE GETTING AS PART OF THIS NOTE IN EXCHANGE FOR 2,921,000. AGAIN, THE ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE BEING LEVIED AND COLLECTED FROM THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T CHANGE AT ALL. THE FINAL INTEREST RATE ON THIS BOND WAS VERY CLOSE TO WHAT WE PROJECTED. WE CAME HERE AND MENTIONED TO YOU THAT I WAS BUDGETING 5.65% ON THIS BOND. WE ENDED UP AT 5.67, SO PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT. IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS BOND TONIGHT, WE WOULD BE ASKING OUR BOND ATTORNEYS TO TAKE THIS TO AUSTIN FOR AG REVIEW AND APPROVAL. WE DON'T FORESEE ANY ISSUES THERE. THIS BOND WOULD BE CLOSING ON SEPTEMBER 23 OF 2025. >> PERFECT. YOU TOUCHED ON TWO OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON, WHICH WAS WHETHER WE QUALIFIED FOR THE INSURANCE, REGARDLESS OF IF WE TAKE IT, AND THEN ALSO THE PERCENTAGE AS WELL. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, IS ANY MEMBER FROM THE DEVELOPER HERE TODAY? DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE? THE REASON I ASK AND JOE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE. IS THIS THE DEVELOPER THAT WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT BUILDER THEY'RE USING? >> YOU REPEAT THAT? >> IS THIS THE DEVELOPER THAT WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH REGARDING ON WHAT TYPE OF BUILDERS WE'RE USING. [01:10:04] WHAT TYPE OF BUILDERS ARE BRINGING IN? THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROVERSY. >> THIS IS STEERED AMERICANS. I THINK YOU'RE THINKING OF THE TELL GROUP. >> YEAH. I'M THINKING OF TELL GROUP. PERFECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. PERFECT. I'M GOOD. OTHERWISE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 6I. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY TAKES US TO ITEM 6J, [6.j. Approve an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Anna, Texas approving an Amended and Restated Service and Assessment Plan, including a revised Assessment Roll, for Improvement Area #1 of the Sherley Tract Public Improvement District No. 2 in accordance with Chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code, as amended; and providing an effective date. (Director of Economic Development Joey Grisham)] APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY OF ANNA TEXAS APPROVING AN AMENDED AND RESTATED SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, INCLUDING A REVISED ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 1 OF THE SHIRLEY TRACT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, NUMBER TWO, IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 372, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AS AMENDED AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, MR. GRISHAM. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS JUST THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, AND THE ROLES HAVE BEEN UPDATED, AND THIS WILL BE AN ANNUAL THING FOR EACH BID. I'M BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I'M PRETTY GOOD. I THINK I HAD A LOT OF THEM ANSWERED EARLIER AND LAST TIME TOO. I'M PRETTY I MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I SECOND. THANK YOU. >> HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, GRACE, DID YOU GET TO THE SECOND? IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU AGAIN, ANDRE. THAT'LL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM 7. [7. Items For Individual Consideration and Public Hearings.] ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THE TIME AND PLACE OF ANY PUBLIC HEARING HELD DURING THIS MEETING. ALL PERSONS WHO DESIRE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD IN OPPOSITION TO OR IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE APPLICATION OR OTHER PROPOSED ITEM. WE'LL START WITH SEVEN A. CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE A CONTRACT FROM CHILDS PLAY INC FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW PLAYGROUND AND ASSOCIATED WORK AT SLAYTER CREEK PARK PARK PLANNING ENVELOPMENT MANAGER D WALKER. >> GOOD EVENING, MARY COUNCIL. THIS IS MUCH BETTER. I HAVE A CONTRACT WITH CHILD PLAY, WHO WAS THE SELECTED VENDOR FOR THE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT AT SLAYTER CREEK PARK. WE SET THE BUDGET AT 1.2 MILLION DOLLAR AND HAD A DESIGN COMPETITION SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE PLAYGROUND AT NATURAL SPRINGS PARK. WE HAD EIGHT VENDORS RESPOND. WE HAD THREE DESIGNS BASED ON THREE THEMES THAT WE SET. ONE BEING AN OCEAN BEACH THEME, A SPORTS THEME, AND THEN FINALLY WAS VENDORS CHOICE. CAN I GET THERE. THERE WE GO. I DO HAVE A FLY THROUGH OF THE SELECTED PLAYGROUND, THIS HAS SOUND, BUT I DON'T NEED IT. I DON'T NEED IT. >> WELL, WE TURN OUT. >> OKAY. YOU READY. WE HAD A SELECTION COMMITTEE OF FOUR PEOPLE WHO REVIEWED THE PROPOSALS. 60% OF THE CRITERIA WAS THE DESIGN. WE WENT WITH THE OCEAN THEME OVER THE SPORTS THEME OR THE VENDOR'S CHOICE. WE THOUGHT IT OFFERED THE MOST AMOUNT OF FEATURES, COOLEST DESIGN. IT WAS VISUALLY STUNNING, LOTS OF PLAY ELEMENTS. THERE'S 122 PLAY FEATURES, 50% OF WHICH ARE ACCESSIBLE. IT WILL BE 100% POURED IN PLACE RUBBER MATTING. THE ENTIRE PLAYGROUND IS EASY TO GO AROUND ON. WE'VE GOT BENCHES AROUND THE PERIMETER. THIS IS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE PAVILION, WHICH OFFERS ADDITIONAL SEATING AND SHADE. THE LARGEST STRUCTURE IS TOO TALL TO PROVIDE SHADING, BUT EACH ELEMENT WITHIN THE STRUCTURE DOES HAVE SOME SHADE PROVIDED. THEN THE LOWER ELEMENTS LIKE THE TWO THROUGH FIVE, THE SWINGS ARE SHADED WITH FABRIC SHADE STRUCTURES. INSTEAD OF A TRANSFER, [01:15:01] YOU'LL NOTICE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE, THERE IS A RAMP THAT GOES UP ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE LARGE PIECE. WE LIKE THAT OPTION BETTER THAN THE TRANSFER POINTS, WHICH JOHNSON HAS A TRANSFER POINT. IT'S JUST NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR A RAMP, BUT THIS IS A VERY LARGE PLAYGROUND. IT'S MEANT TO BE A REGIONAL DRAW. YOU MAY NOTICE ON THE CONTRACT. IT'S ACTUALLY FOR 1.49 MILLION. THAT EXTRA $219,725 IS FOR ITEMS THAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO HAVE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR DO. WE HAVE A RETAINING WALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE RETAINING WALL THAT WAS INSTALLED WITH THE SPLASH PAD. WE HAVE SOME SUB DRAIN, SOME FENCE. THIS IS ACTUALLY LARGER THAN THE PLAYGROUND THAT'S THERE. WE'RE HAVING TO MOVE SOME FENCE. REPLACING THAT AND REPAINTING THE FENCE? THERE WILL BE A MOW STRIP AROUND THE FENCE. THERE'S A BUNCH OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT CHILD PLAY IS CAPABLE. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO THE VENDOR WAS GOING TO BE. BUT CHILD PLAY IS CERTAINLY CAPABLE OF PERFORMING THAT WORK, SO WE JUST LUMPED IT INTO THIS CONTRACT. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT, A LOT MORE COST EFFECTIVE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. >> YES. >> HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO START ADDING WHEELCHAIR SWINGS IN OUR PARKS? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY OF THOSE ANYWHERE, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. >> WHERE YOU ACTUALLY JUST TAKE THE WHEELCHAIR AND ALL INTO THE PARK? YES OR INTO THE SWING. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT DIFFICULT. I THINK WE HAVE I THINK WE HAVE FOUR BAYS IN THIS SWING SET, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. >> THE ONE WE'VE SEEN AT TOSS INDIVIDUAL IT SETS ALONE. >> YEAH. >> IT'S JUST SALLY BY ITSELF. >> YEAH. I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW OUT. >> NO. >> WRENCH IN YOUR PLAYING. I'M JUST CURIOUS. >> NO. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE, OR IF IT'S COUNSEL'S DESIRE TO FIND A PLACE TO PUT ONE AT THIS PLAYGROUND, WE CERTAINLY CAN MAKE MODIFICATIONS. >> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT. >> WHAT CAN YOU POINT OUT THAT FEATURE WE'VE ASKED IN THE PAST THAT ANY FUTURE PLAYGROUND WE BUILD HAD SOME ADA COMPLIANT INCLUSIVE PART LIKE JOHNSON, NOT ALL LIKE JOHNSON, BUT WE WANT SOME RIGHT. SOMETHING AT EACH PLAYGROUND. I SEEN IN A VIDEO, THERE WAS A SWING FOR THAT HOLDS KIDS PETITION? >> YES. IT'S A TWO PERSON SWING. AS I SAID, THERE'S THERE'S 60 PLUS PLAY ELEMENTS ON THIS PLAYGROUND THAT ARE COMPLETELY ACCESSIBLE? THERE'S 122 TOLL, I'M PRETTY SURE. BUT THAT'S ON THE DIFFERENT PIECES. THERE'S A SMALLER PIECE THAT'S SHAPED LIKE A BOAT FOR THE SMALLER KIDS. THEN WE DID SPECIFICALLY REQUEST BASED ON PREVIOUS INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD, THAT WE DID INCLUDE SOME TODDLERS, EVEN SMALLER THAN TWO FOR THE REALLY LITTLES. BUT YES, SIR. ABOUT HALF OF THIS IS COMPLETELY ACCESSIBLE. >> YEAH. I CAN SAY THIS PRESENTATION WAS A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT THE PARKS BOARD SEEN BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE STEELS, AND YOU CAN KIND OF BARELY TELL WHAT IT WAS. I APPRECIATE THAT PART. >> WE DIDN'T QUITE HAVE THIS READY AT THAT TIME. >> YEAH. BECAUSE IT LOOKS WAY BETTER IN THIS VIDEO THAN WHAT I SEEN AT THE PARKS BOARD. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. THE FOUR PERSON COMMITTEE. WAS ANY OF THOSE FOUR FROM THE PARKS BOARD? >> NO, SIR. IT WAS ME, JEFF F, JOANNA. OVER IN COP, AND THEN SHE WAS THE FOURTH, JEFF. OH, IT WAS JOSEPH. >> OKAY. I THINK YOU MIGHT KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. I JUST WANT TO WE APPOINT OUR PARTS BOARD AND THEY TAKE TIME OUT OF THEIR THEIR SCHEDULE, JUST LIKE WE DO AS VOLUNTEER. I JUST WANT THEM MORE INVOLVED. SOMEHOW MAKING HELPING WITH THE DECISIONS, INSTEAD, THEY JUST GOT PRESENTED WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. THEY VOTED ON THAT. I JUST WANT THEM SOMEHOW TO BE MORE INVOLVED THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. >> YES, SIR. WE HEAR THAT. >> THE REST OF THE COUNSEL CAN GET ON BOARD WITH THAT [01:20:02] BECAUSE I'VE BEEN [INAUDIBLE] KICKING AND SCREAMING FOR TWO YEARS. >> SURE. IF YOU'LL RECALL NATURAL SPRINGS, MR. WALKER PRESENTED 147 SLIDES TO THEM WITH ALL OF THE CHOICES THAT THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH. WE DO, AND WE HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION AND THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH THESE OPTIONS AND WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO DO. WE DON'T NECESSARILY DO THAT EVERY TIME. I DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT, BUT WE WILL WORK HARDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MORE ON ALL THE PROJECTS. >> FIRST OF ALL, REALLY GOOD JOB ON THIS. IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN PULL UP THE VIDEO JUST SO IT HAS THAT VISUAL OF THE PARK? IS THERE A WAY TO PULL THAT UP? YOU MIGHT JUST BE ABLE TO PAUSE IT RIGHT OVER IT. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> YEAH. I THINK IT WAS THE BLUE ONE THAT THEY WERE. THIS ONE JUST PAUSE OVER THAT. IS THIS WHAT THEY'VE DESIGNED FOR US OR IS THIS JUST AN EXAMPLE? >> NO. THIS IS THE EXACT STRUCTURE. >> OKAY. >> THE THE BLUE BLOB AT THE TOP IS THE SPLASH PAD? THE PARKING LOT IS TO THE LEFT, AND THEN THAT ENTRANCE AT THE BOTTOM IS INTO THE PAVILION AREA. >> HOW IS THIS THE THE WATER OCEAN THEME? >> WE GAVE THE OPTIONS TO THE VENDORS, OCEAN JUST BECAUSE IT WAS NEXT TO THE SPLASH PAD AND YOU DON'T SEE A TON OF OCEAN OR BEACH THEME PLAYGROUNDS. THE OTHER THEME WAS SPORTS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SPORT ACTIVITIES GOING ON AT SLAYTER CREEK PARK. THEN THE OTHER OPTION WAS VENDORS CHOICE. WE HAD ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS PRESENTED FROM THE VENDORS. THIS WAS OUR OVERALL FAVORITE. WE HAD A SCORING SYSTEM BASED ON THE DESIGN COMPETITION, THE EXPERIENCE OF THE COMPANY, THE ABILITY TO DO THE WORK. THE COST WAS NOT AN ISSUE. WE SET IT AT 1.2 MILLION AND WE SAID, GIVE US YOUR BEST SHOT AT WHAT YOU CAN PROVIDE FOR THAT AMOUNT. THAT WORKED REALLY WELL FOR US AT THE NATURAL SPRINGS PARK PLAYGROUND. >> OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. LET ME STEP OUT FROM THAT. ANOTHER THING IS SOME OF THE COLORS ON THESE SLIDES ARE PRETTY LIGHT. THE THING I WORRY ABOUT IS FADING OVER FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE IN THE MATERIAL, ANYTHING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE FADING, JUST SO IT DOESN'T LOOK SO DATED IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS? >> NO. THEY ABSOLUTELY DO. THE COLORS SHOWN HERE ARE SOME OF THE LEAST FADING. ONCE YOU GET INTO PURPLES, REDS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY REALLY START TO TURN LAVENDER AND PINK. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE LIKE THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN MORE. >> YOU CAN'T STOP FADING. EVEN THE SURFACING IS GOING TO FADE, BUT THESE ARE GOING TO FADE A LOT SLOWER THAN SOME OF THE MORE PRIMARY RED BASED COLORS. >> PERFECT. I'VE SEEN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE FAIRLY NEW LIKE US BUILD PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND WITHIN 3-5 YEARS, THEY START LOOKING BLEACHED OUT. SOME OF THEM TO YOUR POINT HAVE THOSE DARKER COLORS. BUT JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR. ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS, I DO LOVE THAT YOU GUYS INCORPORATE A LOT OF SHADE IN HERE. BUT THERE IS A TWO PART QUESTION. COULD WE GET MORE SHADE IN THERE? AND IF POSSIBLE, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO TOWNE LAKE PARK OFF OF 75 IN MCKINNEY? DOES THAT LITTLE HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT LITTLE POND CIRCLE AREA? IF ANYONE HAS GOOGLE, I WOULD RECOMMEND LOOK AT TOWNE LAKE PARK. THERE'S A KID'S PARK IN THERE AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY THESE REALLY BIG TALL TREES THAT CREATE CANOPY. I'VE BEEN THERE IN 100 DEGREE WEATHER WITH MY SON, AND I MEAN IT'S COMFORTABLE UNDER THERE. WHETHER THAT'S NATURALLY THROUGH TREES OR ARTIFICIALLY THROUGH CANOPIES, CAN WE LOOK AT SOME MORE TYPE OF SHADE, AND THEN ALSO MORE SITTING AREAS FOR PARENTS THAT ARE SHADED AS WELL, I SEE SOME OF THESE BENCHES HERE. IS THERE A WAY TO PUT SOME STRUCTURE SOMETHING ON TOP? >> I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT IS THAT'S ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO TWEAK IS I THINK A COUPLE OF THOSE BENCHES NEED TO BE MOVED SLIGHTLY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SHADE. THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS ONE ON THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SOUTH SIDE, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, PUTTING AN INDIVIDUAL SHADE OVER THAT BENCH. [01:25:01] BUT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET EXCEPT DURING NOON TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANY BENCHES ON THE WEST SIDE ARE GOING TO GET SHADE FROM THE PAVILION AND AS THE SUN GOES DOWN, THAT TWO TO FIVE STRUCTURE ON THE WEST SIDE WILL ALSO GET SHADE. I THINK OVERALL THE SHADE IS IN GOOD PLACES. WE JUST NEED TO TWEAK IT JUST A TINY BIT. WE'LL DO THAT THROUGH. WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS GOING THROUGH THE SUBMITTAL PROCESS. THEY'RE GOING TO SEND A SHEET CUT SHEETS ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PIECES. WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE ALL OF THE COLORS. SO I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE EARLIER WHEN I SAID, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET. IT'S ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET. THERE'S SOME LITTLE CHANGES THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE HERE AND THERE, BUT AS WE GO THROUGH, SELECT THE COLORS, GET EXACT LOCATIONS, THEY'LL PROVIDE SHOP DRAWINGS TO US. WE'LL REVIEW ALL OF THAT. DURING THAT PROCESS, THERE IS ALWAYS SOME TWEAKING. PERFECT. IF I TAKE MY SON A LOT TO THE PARKS. ONE OF THE BIGGEST FEEDBACKS I HAVE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE SHADED AREAS FOR PARENTS TO SIT. NO, THAT'S A HUGE THAT'S FEEDBACK WE HEAR FROM EVERYONE. PERFECT. EVEN IN THEN, IT'S A LITTLE SNEAK PEAK, BUT YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE COME TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR WITH OUR PARK MASTER PLAN UPDATE, SHADE IS A HUGE ITEM IN THAT AS WELL. >> PERFECT. THEN ALSO, THE MATERIAL ON THE BASE OF THE PARK. WHAT TYPE OF MATERIAL IS THAT? IS THAT THAT FLEXIBLE ASPHALT TYPE OF MATERIAL? IS IT WOOD CHIPS? LIKE WHAT IS? >> IT IS A, SO THAT IS A PERMEABLE POURED IN PLACE RUBBER MATERIAL AND IT HAS A LOT OF IT IS RECYCLED TIRES THAT THEY, SO A LOT OF IT. IT HAS TWO LAYERS. THERE'S A THICKER BIGGER CHUNKS LAYER THAT'S GLUED TOGETHER UNDERNEATH AND THEN ON TOP OF IT. IT'S THE GRANULAR, REAL TINY GRANULAR MATERIAL THAT THEY MIX IN WITH THE GLUE AND THEN THEY POUR IT ON AND THEY FINISH IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE FINISHING CONCRETE. IT'S VERY SIMILAR. >> IS IT LIKE JOHNSON PARK? >> IT'S JUST LIKE JOHNSON PARK. >> JOHNSON PARK AT IT. >> IT'S THAT SOFT. >> LITTLE CHAIRS CAN ROLL ON IT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S VERY NICE. >> THEY ACTUALLY DEPENDING ON THE HEIGHT OF THE PLAYGROUND, THE SURFACING WILL BE THICKER IN THOSE AREAS. >> PERFECT. BECAUSE I WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO HIS POINT ON THE ACCESSIBILITY. BECAUSE IF IT'S A HARD TYPE OF MATERIAL, EVEN IF THEY CAN'T PLAY ON THAT SPECIFIC AREA, THEY CAN AT LEAST WE ALONG WITH THEIR PARENTS AND FRIENDS AND BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT AS WELL. BUT GUYS, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. I KNOW THIS TOOK A LOT OF WORK. I CAN'T WAIT TO JUMP ON THIS. >> IT'S GOING TO BE STUNNING. >> HOPEFULLY, I CAN DO THE INAUGURAL SLIDE DOWN IF I GET STUCK. THAT'S A FIRE CHIEF. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO HELP ME OUT ON THAT ONE [LAUGHTER] >>I SEE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SWINGS HERE, BUT WHAT I DON'T SEE IS A MOMMY AND ME TYPE SWING. CAN YOU INCORPORATE THAT IN THERE SOMEHOW? >> YES. CAN WE SEE. >> YEAH, JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO WE HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR. IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME. NO, YOU'RE GOOD RIGHT THERE. THAT'S GOOD. LET ME GET THE CHILD'S PLAY AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ON THAT. LET ME LOOK AT SOME OF THEIR OTHER OPTIONS. WE HAVE FOUR BAYS. WE HAVE PLENTY OF SWINGS OVER THERE. >> LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT MORE ROOM TO ADD ANOTHER BAY? FIT IT IN. >> THIS LOOKS REALLY. >> COUNCILMAN TOSIN, ARE YOU INCREASING OUR BUDGET? >> CUT SOMETHING OUT. TAKE ONE OF THE DOLPHINS AWAY. >> [LAUGHTER] CUT. OKAY. >> I KNOW. I WAS A LITTLE Y WITH THE DOLPHINS TOO IS LIKE FREE WILLY OVER THERE, BUT I'LL TAKE IT. >> ALL RIGHT. COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM SEVEN A. >> I'LL SECOND. >> I'LL SECOND >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. YOU GET THEM GRACE. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. TAKES IT TO SEVEN B. CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ACTING CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES PROJECT ORDER FOR MANAGEMENT OF CIVIL ENGINEERING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES RELATED TO MULTIPLE PROJECTS AT SLAYTER CREEK PARK BY PROJECT ADVOCATES. MR. WALKER? >> YES. SO THIS IS FOR MULTIPLE PROJECTS, BUT IT'S ALSO SPECIFICALLY TIED TO THE SLAYTER PLAYGROUND. WE HAVE HIRED OR WE WOULD LIKE TO HIRE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND [01:30:02] CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM TO ASSIST US WITH SOME OF THE FINAL GRADES IN TOWARD THE SOUTHERN END OF THE OF THE PLAYGROUND AND TO FINALIZE THE DESIGN OF THE RETAINING WALL. WE'RE PRETTY SURE WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE IT ENGINEERED AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THESE SERVICES. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS. ACTUALLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE SHOULD WRAP UP A SURVEY OF THE ENTIRE SLAYTER CREEK PARK, AND THAT IS TO GET TOPO THE ENTIRE SITE SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS SOME DRAINAGE PROBLEMS IN BETWEEN THE BASEBALL FIELDS AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELDS, AND THERE'S A FEW OTHER AREAS IN THE PARK. THIS CONTRACT WOULD ALSO ASSIST US WITH THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DRAINAGE ALL OVER SLAYTER CREEK PARK. THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS THAT, ON THE LIST OF TO DO OUR SHADE AT THE SKATE PARK, EVENTUALLY REPLACING THE RESTROOM BETWEEN THE FOUR PLEX BASEBALL FIELDS. BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE CURB IN FRONT OF ONE OF THE DOORS TO KEEP A WATER OUT BECAUSE THAT IS SO LOW IN THAT OLD RESTROOM BUILDING. WE MAY NEED TO RAISE THAT ENTIRE AREA A FOOT AND A HALF. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY YET. BUT THAT'S ONE REASON THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THESE GUYS ON BOARD SO THEY CAN HELP US FIGURE ALL THAT OUT. >> COUNSEL. >> HAVE YOU CONSIDERED PUTTING THE FENCE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SKATE PARK WHERE ROSAMOND IS. EVERY TIME I DRIVE DOWN THERE, I I CAN SEE A SKATEBOARD COME FLYING AND A KID CHASING IT. >> NO. >> IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, THANKFULLY, BUT. >> WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT. WE TALKED TO THE DESIGNER ABOUT THAT. WE COULD CERTAINLY PUT A FENCE UP. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DISTANCE THERE AND THE FLOW OF THE ACTUAL, THE WAY THAT YOU'RE MOVING AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT AREA. IT'S NOT A HUGE RISK. WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT HAPPENING YET. WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. >> MAYBE JUST A SUGGESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF A SKATER OR A GUY ON A BMX WOULD WANT TO HIT A FENCE. MAYBE BUSHES. YEAH, GREENERY, YOU KNOW, SOME BOXWOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> JUST TO KEEP SKATEBOARDS, NOT NECESSARILY PEOPLE, BUT SKATEBOARDS. >> NO. >> I THINK A CHEAPER OPTION. >> I EVEN ALL KIND OF MORE SO IN THE ENTRANCE BECAUSE YOU SEE KIDS. MY SCARE IS WITH THEM RUNNING FROM THE PARKING LOT OVER AND NOT TAKING THE WALKWAY. IT'S SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT MAYBE IF WE CAN THIS TIME AROUND OR IN THE FUTURE, TO FUNNEL THEM INTO THAT ONE INTO THE PARK ONE WAY AND ONE WAY OUT MAYBE. BUT YEAH, I TOTALLY AGREE BECAUSE, IT'S SURPRISINGLY THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. BUT SOMETHING. I BUT I'D RATHER SEE SOME GREENERY THAN IN A CHAIN LINK PEN? NO, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. THERE'S IRRIGATION ALL AROUND THE SKATE PARK THAT WENT IN WHEN THE SKATE PARK WENT IN. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. THAT SHOULDN'T BE TOO DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE. >> SO LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON RECORD. I'D ALREADY REPORTED IT. NO TWO OR THREE WEEKS. OPENING IT, I HAD A KID SUCCESSFULLY LAUNCH AND HE LEANED ON THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE BOARD WENT OUT IN FRONT OF ME. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT COULD BE REPEATED. >> ALSO, IF I MAY ADD, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ADD FLASHING LIGHTS? KIND OF A WALKWAY. THIS MAY BE A BIT OF A SIDEBAR. BUT JUST SOMETHING FOR MAYBE JUST A FUTURE DISCUSSION ACROSS THAT BECAUSE FROM THAT SKATE PARK AREA, I SEE A TON OF KIDS ALWAYS CROSSING. >> ENTER THE SKATE PARK FROM THE PARKING LOT? >> YEAH. WHAT I'VE SEEN IS, LIKE, SOMETIMES THE KIDS WILL GO ACROSS THE ROAD. BEFORE SCHOOL AFTER SCHOOL EVEN IN THE SUMMER, BUT MAYBE JUST, YOU KNOW, A SIDE BAR, THAT SOME TYPE OF FLASHING LIGHT OR JUST SOME TYPE OF WALKWAY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THERE, BECAUSE I CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING AT SOME POINT, TOO, UNFORTUNATELY. >>BASICALLY AN AWARENESS FOR THE ENTIRE DISTANCE OF THAT PARK? >> NOT THE ENTIRE DISTANCE. MAYBE JUST A FLASH LIKE KIDS AT PLAY AT THE BEGINNING VERSUS THE END, SOMETHING. I MEAN, THEY'RE THE EXPERTS. THEY CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO NOTIFY PEOPLE JUST TO BE A LITTLE AWARE. [01:35:04] >> NO, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT. >>ONE THING WE PROBABLY SHOULD ADD IS WHAT THE MAYOR ASKED FOR FOR A PLAYGROUND, AND WE DIDN'T PUT IT INTO THE MOTION IS THE WHEELCHAIR SWING. >> SO THIS WOULD FIT IN THIS ITEM WE DIDN'T ADD THAT INTO. >> IT WASN'T ADDED TO THE MOTION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE MANUFACTURER AND SEE WHAT OPTIONS THEY HAVE AND ABOUT EVEN POTENTIALLY ADDING ANOTHER BAY OF SWITCH APPLE THINGS OUT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. I CARE THAT. >> YES, SIR. I GOT IT IN MY NOTES. I I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. I PROMISE. >> AND THIS IS WHEN WHEN'S THE LAST TIME, LIKE FOR PROJECT ADVOCATES AND TO LOOK INTO, LIKE, WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE RESURFACED OUR BASEBALL FIELDS. MORE SO THE DIRT AREA, NOT THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GOOD. OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT IS ALWAYS THE GRASS WHERE THERE IS GRASS, IT'S GREEN AND IT'S WELL MAINTAINED. BUT THE DIRT ITSELF, I KNOW EVERY YEAR OR EVERY TWO YEARS, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO ADD THAT. IT'S A SPECIAL DIRT. >> YES, SIR, WE DID. >> NOT EXPENSIVE, BUT. >> IT IS, WE DO. WE HAD FIELD THREE, THE IN FIELD WAS REDONE TWO YEARS AGO, AND THEN FIELD FOUR WAS DONE LAST YEAR. SO THOSE HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY REPLACED, BUT WE ALWAYS TOPPED THOSE OFF. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> EARLIER, YOU TOUCHED ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS RELATED TO THE 2021 PARK BOND. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS WENT AND HOW THEY'RE RELATED TO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AT SLAYTER CREEK OR SLAYTER PARK? >> BOND FUNDED PROJECTS. THE SKATE PARK WAS A BOND FUNDED PROJECT. THE SPLASH PAD WAS BOND FUNDED, PICKLEBALL COURTS, PARKING LOT EXPANSION, IMPROVEMENTS AT YANK PARK, THE SECONDARY PARKING LOT AT NATURAL SPRINGS PARK. THE PLAYGROUND AT NATURAL SPRINGS PARK, I BELIEVE WAS BOND. >> IT WAS. WE ALSO HAD SLAYTER WE DID THE LIGHTING OF THE TWO SOUTH MOST MULTIPURPOSE FIELD. YES. COUNSEL MAN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE RELEVANCY IS TO THIS AGENDA ITEM? >> HE WAS SPEAKING ON THE PROJECTS AT SLAYTER CREEK. I WAS CURIOUS IF THEY WERE BEING FUNDED BY THE 2021 PARK BOND OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER MECHANISM. SORRY. >> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UPCOMING PROJECTS. YES. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECTS AT SLAYTER WILL BE FUNDED WITH THE PARK BOND. HOWEVER, I KNOW THAT MARK WANTS TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING SOON WITH COUNSEL AND PARK BOARD SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT IN THE BOND AND WHAT THE PRIORITY TO THE PROJECTS ARE. THERE'S ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF PROJECTS ON HERE THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY BE A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG IN THAT WE'RE HOLDING UP ON A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT CAN TAKE PLACE. >> PERFECT THAT'S EXACTLY THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS IF IT'S APPROVED? ONCE THEY'VE COMPLETED THEIR ENGINEERING AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, IS THIS SOMETHING WELL, FIRST OFF, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TIMELINE MIGHT BE ON THAT? LIKE, HOW MANY MONTHS FOR THEM TO DO ALL OF THIS CIVIL ENGINEERING? >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, COUNSEL MAN. I THINK WE HAD NINE MONTHS IN THERE FOR THAT. IT MAY HAVE BEEN LESS. >> THAT THAT'S CLEAR ENOUGH. >> SO IT'S IN THE CONTRACT. >> IT'S 180 DAYS. >> ACTUALLY, IT'S SIX MONTHS. >> SIX MONTHS. >> SO WOULD THE OUTPUT OF THAT COME BEFORE THIS COUNSEL TO ACT UPON IT AND MODIFY THE BUDGET OR WOULD IT TOUCH ON EXISTING BUDGET OR WHAT? >> HE HE WOULD PREPARE BID DOCUMENTS THAT WILL GO OUT FOR BID. WE'LL GET PRICING FROM CONTRACTORS AND BRING THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU OFFER APPROVAL. IT'S JUST THE DESIGN PORTION OF THIS. IT'S NONE OF THE DRAINAGE WORK IS INCLUDED. THE ACTUAL WORK IS INCLUDED IN THIS CONTRACT. >> I'M ASKING SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE THE BUDGET SEASON RIGHT NOW. I'M CURIOUS IF THIS IS AN ITEM IN THAT BUDGET. >> THIS IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, AS MR. WALKER MENTIONED, IS HAVE A JOINT PARK BOARD AND COUNSEL MEETING BEFORE LONG TO LOOK AT THE REMAINING DOLLARS. >> SURE. >> IN THE BOND FUNDS. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE WE PROCEED TOO MUCH FURTHER WITH CONSTRUCTING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE DREWS LIST, THAT YOU ALL ARE STILL IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT US TO GO OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO DO AND PUT THOSE OFF FOR A DIFFERENT DAY OR HOWEVER THAT MAY WORK. THAT'S THE CONVERSATION. [01:40:01] >> TO UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNSEL SINGH WAS GOING. SO THIS ITEM, IS IT AN M&O ITEM OR IS IT A BOND ITEM? >> THIS IS A BOND ITEM. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM SEVEN B. >> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. >> MOTION PASSES 61. THANK YOU, DONALD. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM 7C. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND ACT ON AN ORDINANCE REGARDING A REQUEST TO AMEND AN EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE KAYO MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD. PD 25-0005, PLANNING MANAGER LAUREN MCKEY. >> THIS ITEM IS TO AMEND THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGH A PRE-ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN 2021 AND ADOPTED OFFICIALLY IN 2022. WHAT THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING, THE WAY THAT THE LANGUAGE IS TODAY IS IT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE ON BEING ABLE TO GO FROM A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, WHICH IS A TOWN HOME TYPE PRODUCT TO A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON THE LEFT FOR EACH OF THE TWO SECTIONS, WHERE THERE WAS 92 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWN HOMES, AND THEY'RE WANTING TO GO DOWN TO 49 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS WOULD BE THREE THINGS. ONE IS CHANGING THE LANGUAGE TO STATE INSTEAD OF A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF THE SF 60 LOTS, A MINIMUM NUMBER, AND THEN FOR THOSE LOTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY PLOTTED AS SFTH TO ALLOW THE MINIMUM LOT AREA TO BE 5,000 AND THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH TO BE 100. THIS IS ACTUALLY STILL LARGER THAN OUR CURRENT MIXED DENSITY ZONING DISTRICT, AND ALSO A MAJORITY OF THE LOTS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE 100 FEET. IT'S JUST A NUMBER TO GET DOWN TO WHAT THE TH WAS SO THAT THEY DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES. THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE ANYTHING TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF BOTH OF THE PLATS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM AND WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. >> I'M GOING TO GO TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:47 P.M. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS. MS. LAND, DO YOU HAVE ANY CARDS OVER THERE? ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS? LAST CALL. I'M GOING TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:47. COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? >> I WAS JUST GOING TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THERE SHOWING THE PROPERTY VISIONS. THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. >> WHICH ONE? THE PLATS OR THE LANE? >> NO, THIS ONE IS FINE. THANKS. >> THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO THE NUMBERS AGAIN. >> DO WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE OR A REPRESENTATIVE? >> WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE. >> DO YOU MIND BRINGING THEM UP FOR A SECOND? IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE OF THE PLOTTING? PERFECT. HOW'S IT GOING IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF? >> I'M ERIC FAR WITH ASHMOODS HOMES. >> PERFECT. DOES [INAUDIBLE]. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS, TOO, FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> WHAT'S THAT NOW? >> YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> ERIC FAR WITH ASHMOODS HOMES, 1,800 FLOWER MOUND, FARMERS BRANCH, ACTUALLY FOR OUR DIVISION OFFICE. >> THANK YOU. >> PERFECT. THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE, AND NOW, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STORY, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW YOU GOT FROM THE ORIGINAL SMALLER LOTS TO THE BIGGER LOTS NOW? BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE WOULD WANT, SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THAT. >> WE MAY HAVE AN EFFORT TO MAKE THE TOWN HOMES WORK. WE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED THAT TO BE A HIGHER COMMODITY AND TO SELL BETTER. EVERY DEVELOPERS WANTING TO MAKE THE MOST OF THE ACREAGE THAT THEY BOUGHT, SO WE FOUND OUT THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MOVE THAT PRODUCT AS WELL AS WE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED TO. THE SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT, THE 50 FOOT LOTS ARE SELLING MUCH BETTER. CITY COUNCIL, I'M SURE YOU ALL LIKE THE IDEA OF LESS DENSITY, [01:45:02] AND THAT'S WHAT IS SELLING BETTER, SO IT WORKS BETTER FOR BOTH OF US IN THIS SITUATION. >> SEE YOU HIT A VERY IMPORTANT POINT THERE, AND ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHEN DEVELOPERS COME, INITIALLY, THERE COULD BE SOME BACK AND FORTH, BUT ULTIMATELY THIS SHOWS THAT THERE'S 360 WIN OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THE DEVELOPER WINS, WE THE CITY WIN, AND THEN THE PEOPLE WIN WITH LESS DENSITY AS WELL. I REALLY LIKE THIS. NOW, I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY LETTER OF INTENT FROM ANY BUILDERS? >> NO. >> WHAT KIND OF BUILDERS ARE YOU LOOKING AT POSSIBLY USING? >> WE ARE CURRENTLY ASHMOODS HOMES AND STARLIGHT HOMES. WE CURRENTLY ALREADY DEVELOP AND BUILD IN CODY MEADOWS, PHASE 1A AND 1B. OUR PRODUCT IS MOVING WELL, WE HAVE AN AMENITY CENTER WITH A POOL. WE HAVE TOWN HOMES THAT HAVE ALREADY SOLD IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. THE 50 FOOT PRODUCT IS STARLIGHT HOMES AND THE 60 FOOT PRODUCT IS ASHMOODS HOMES. THERE'S ALSO A 40-FOOT PRODUCT THAT STARLIGHT HOMES BUILDS ON AS WELL. >> A QUESTION ABOUT STARLIGHT HOMES. WHAT I'VE SEEN HISTORICALLY IS THOSE PROPERTIES ARE SOLD OR MARKETED ON A MONTHLY BASIS VERSUS OTHER ONES, IS THIS ONE GOING TO BE MARKETED IN THE SAME WAY SPECIFICALLY FOR MONTHLY PAYMENTS VERSUS TOTAL COST OF THE HOUSE? >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC PLANS FOR THAT AT THE MOMENT. IT COULD GO TO ASHMOODS HOMES. ASHMOODS HAS A 50-FOOT PRODUCT THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE FOR THE COMPANY. THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERRED METHOD SO IT WOULD BE THE SLIGHTLY NICER PRODUCT THAN THE OPPOSED STARLIGHT HOME, WHICH IS MORE GEARED TOWARDS FIRST TIME HOME BUYER, INVESTOR PRODUCT. ASHMOOD IS GENERALLY THE NEXT STEP UP TO YOUR FIRST TIME HOME BUYER, MAYBE SECOND HOME OR THIRD HOME. >> PERFECT. WHAT KIND OF BUILDING MATERIAL ARE YOU GUYS THINKING? >> WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY OUT THERE IS WHAT WE WOULD GO TOWARDS. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE ANYTHING OR AMEND ANY OF THE BUILDING MATERIALS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING, WHATEVER BUILDING MATERIALS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ADHERING TO AT THE MOMENT WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD SUSTAIN OURSELVES TO. >> THEN WHAT IS YOUR PERCENTAGE OF GREEN SPACE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? >> I'M NOT FOR SURE AT THE MOMENT FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF GREEN SPACE. LAUREN, DO YOU KNOW THOSE DETAILS? >> SORRY, THROUGH CURVEBALL AND THERE YOU WERE DOING TOO WELL? >> IT WAS THERE EXCEEDING WHAT WAS REQUIRED IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. >> FANTASTIC. THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO. >> WE DON'T HAVE THE EXHIBIT HERE. THERE'S A VERY LARGE OPEN SPACE THAT CONSISTS OF ATMOSPAS EASEMENT THAT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THE HEART OF THE SUBDIVISION RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH. THERE'S NO FUTURE PLANS TO ENCROACH ON THAT EASEMENT, AND THAT HELPS SUSTAIN THAT GREEN OPEN SPACE. IT MOVES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. THAT AMENITY CENTER IS KEY IN THE CENTRAL POINT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL, THAT HAS THE POOL, THE PLAYGROUND, A LARGE PARK SPACE, LOTS OF TREES, AND OPEN SPACES. >> THEN QUESTION FOR STAFF. HAVE YOU GUYS RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK, ANY COMMENTS FROM ANY NEIGHBORS ON THIS PROJECT? >> I'VE ONLY HAD ONE PHONE CALL WHERE SHE WAS MAKING SURE THAT THE TRAIL WAS GOING TO REMAIN THERE, AND THAT IS PART OF THIS IS THE TRAIL GOING THROUGH IT AND STAYING THERE. >> PERFECT. ALL IN ALL, I HAVE TO SAY I'M REALLY IMPRESSED. I KNOW YOU GUYS STARTED OFF WITH A DIFFERENT VISION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE FOUND SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE, SO YOU REALLY COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND WELCOME TO ANNA. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR SAYING COYOTE METALS, CORRECT? I REMEMBER WHENEVER IT FIRST STARTED, WE ASKED YOU GUYS TO LEARN HOW TO SAY IT SO WE ALL DON'T GET RAN OUT OF ANNA. TO GO FROM 92 LOTS, I THINK, TO 40 AND OFFER THE HOMES. I DROVE THROUGH. IT'S A CLEAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'RE VERY NICE. IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PRODUCT WE HAVE. APPRECIATE Y'ALL BUILDING THE AMENITY CENTER FIRST. THIS IS ACTUALLY GOOD. WE'RE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF LOTS, AND REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF WATER METERS, FRONT DOOR, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. THIS IS NICE SO I APPRECIATE THAT. >> THANKS, SIR. I'M THE ONSITE LAND DEVELOPER. IF YOU'LL EVER HAVE QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO LAUREN, SHE CAN RELATE IT TO ME IF YOU'LL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY. I'M ON SITE. >> DID I ASK THE QUESTION? DID YOU ALL MAKE THE CHANGE BECAUSE THESE WERE ATTACHED, [01:50:03] LET'S CALL THEM TOWN HOMES, DID YOU ALL MAKE THE CHANGE BECAUSE YOU ALL SEEN THEY WEREN'T SELLING LIKE WE WERE HOPING? >> MARGINS ARE GETTING THIN ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW. IT'S DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING ISOLATED TO THE CITY OF ANNA. IT'S DEFINITELY A NATIONAL THING. THE MARGINS ON THE TOWN HOME, PRICE WISE ARE VERY CLOSE TO WHERE OUR SINGLE FAMILY IS CURRENTLY AT. THERE'S A DELTA OF ONLY ABOUT $20,000 FROM THE ATTACHED FAMILY TOWN HOME PRODUCT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT THAT STARLIGHT OFFERS TO THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYER. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, THEY'RE SPRINGING TO HAVE THEIR OWN SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME VERSUS A TOWN HOME TYPE PRODUCT. A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING INTO THE STARLIGHT PRODUCT ARE COMING FROM AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THEY'RE WANTING SOMETHING OF THEIR OWN THAT'S THEIRS. THAT EXTRA $20,000 IS SOMETHING THAT IS DOABLE FOR THEM AND JUSTIFIABLE TO HAVE THAT OWN HOME OF THEIRS. >> LAUREN, YOU MIGHT KNOW THIS. WAS THERE A RENTAL CAP FROM CODY MEADOWS LIKE WE'VE DONE ON THE OTHER NEIGHBOR OR WAS THIS DONE BEFORE? >> THIS WAS DONE BEFORE. THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE DID. >> I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REVISIT THAT, THE RENT CAP? >> THE RENT CAP? >> YEAH. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON IT AT THE MOMENT. I KNOW THAT MOST OF THE MANAGERIAL SIDE OF THAT IS DONE BY THE HOA, THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT TAKES OVER AFTER WE CONSTRUCT THE DEVELOPMENT AND HAND IT OVER TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY. THAT WOULD BE BASED ON THE CCNRS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. >> BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE TOO LATE FOR ANY DEVELOPER TYPE OF AGREEMENT OR ANYTHING. I THINK WE'RE PASSED OUT. >> WELL, IF THERE'S STILL CONTROLLED TO DECLARANT CAN PUT THAT IN THE PAPERWORK IN THE CCRS IN THE BY LOSS. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> YOU GUYS HAVE DONE FANTASTIC. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VERY FLEXIBLE WITH US, BUT IF THERE'S ONE MORE PIECE THAT YOU CAN LOOK INTO IT'S RENTAL CAPS. NO. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 5%, WE'D PREFER IT, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON WITH YOU GUYS, IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY WITH US ON FUTURE PROJECTS AS WELL. >> I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND RELAY THAT. >> PERFECT. THEN TWO MORE FINAL QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE ROAD WIDTH OF THIS ROAD COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? BECAUSE I'VE NOTICED IN ANNA THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SMALLER ROADS, SOME LARGER. >> THE RIGHT WIDTH, IT'S A 50 FOOT MINIMUM. >> THE WIDTH OF THE STREET? >> THE STREET WOULD BE 32 FEET FROM BACK TO BACK OF THE CURBS. >> PERFECT. HOW IS THAT SIMILAR TO A LOT OF THE OTHER BUILDS, THE NEWER BUILDS? >> CORRECT. >> PRETTY STANDARD, BECAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THE FALLS, THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER NARROW ROADS. >> THOSE ARE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PREDATE OUR CURRENT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS. >> PERFECT. THEN ALSO, I KNOW WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE OUT THERE THAT REQUESTS THAT WHENEVER THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT, THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREES USED TO PROVIDE A TYPE OF MIX, SO THERE'S NOT JUST A SINGLE HOMOGENEITY OF THEM. IS THAT BEING INCORPORATED AS WELL? ANY OF THE TREES FOLIAGE, ANY OF THAT GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS? >> WITHIN THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT, THERE WAS A MODIFICATION TO THE TREE REQUIREMENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TOWN HOMES. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT THEY HAVE TO ALTERNATE TREES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I KNOW FROM GOING OUT AND INSPECTING THE LANDSCAPING FOR THE AMENITY CENTER THAT THEY ARE USING A VARIETY OF TREES. >> NO. THAT'S PERFECT. THOSE TREES, ESPECIALLY IF EVENTUALLY THE GOAL IS TO CREATE A CITY WITHIN A PARK, TREES GO A LONG WAY, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE FANTASTIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> LAUREN, THIS IS PROBABLY TO YOU TOO. HOW MANY TREES ARE REQUIRED PER LOT? IS IT TWO FOR THIS ONE? >> IT'S TWO FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, AND THEN THERE WAS AN ALTERNATING REQUIREMENT FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, SO WITH THIS REDUCTION GOING FROM 93 TOWN HOME LOTS TO 49, THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE MORE TREES REQUIRED. >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION. OH, I KNOW, BUT I THINK YOU'LL LIKE THIS. THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH A FEASIBILITY RATE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS CHANGED THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO LESS UNITS WITH LARGER LOTS. IS THERE ANYTHING, ANY POINT OF GUIDANCE OR POINT OF ADVICE YOU CAN GIVE TO ANY OTHER DEVELOPERS AND HOW YOU [01:55:03] WERE ABLE TO GET FROM WHERE YOU WERE TO WHERE YOU ARE IN YOUR FEASIBILITY? >> I THINK WE WERE A LITTLE OVER ZEALOUS WITH OUR ANTICIPATION OF IT WORKING OUT. I THINK IF WE WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE CENTRAL TO THE METROPLEX, THE TOWN HOME GENERALLY SELLS BETTER. WE HAVE SEVERAL TOWN HOME PRODUCTS THAT ARE FARTHER DOWN, MORE CENTRALIZED TO THE METROPLEX THAT DO SELL WELL. THE FARTHER THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT, WE SEE THOSE NUMBERS START TO LESSEN. THIS WAS THE LIMIT OF OUR TOWNHOME PRODUCT. IT DID NOT WORK. WE RAN FEASIBILITY NUMBERS, WE CREATED EXHIBITS AND PROFORMAS BASED OFF THAT TO SEE WHAT IS FEASIBLE AND WHAT WORKS. SINGLE FAMILY IS WHAT GIVES US A BETTER SHOT AT MAKING BETTER MARGINS FOR OUR COMPANY AND CREATES A BETTER SUBDIVISION [OVERLAPPING]. >> SAY IT A LITTLE BIT LOUDER FOR THE DEVELOPERS IN THE BACK. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS ARE THE RESISTANCE POINTS WE ALWAYS GET IS, WE NEED A LARGER NUMBER OF UNITS TO BE FEASIBLE FOR A PERFORMER TO WORK, BUT TODAY YOU'VE PROVED THAT LOGIC WRONG. YOU FOUND A WAY. THEN WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE, SINCE WE'VE HAD SUCH A GREAT EXPERIENCE WITH YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN ZONED MULTI-FAMILY PREVIOUSLY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN ANNA AS WELL AND SEE IF YOU CAN PROVIDE SOME GOOD UNIQUE PRODUCTS. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE BEEN IN THE CITY OF ANNA FOR SOME TIME NOW. PECON GROVE, A COUPLE OF OUR OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS NOW CODY MEADOWS. WE LOVE BEING HERE. EVERYTHING'S GROW IN THIS DIRECTION. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE HERE IN THE FUTURE. >> YOU SAID PECON GROVE [OVERLAPPING] >> PHASE 4. >> PHASE 4. I'M IN PHASE 2 >> IT SHUTTERED HOMED. ANYWAYS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 7C. >> I'LL SECOND. >> HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. TAKES ITEM 7D. CONSIDER TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON A CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE, MISS MEI. >> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR YOU TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SEPTEMBER 3 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND THE SEPTEMBER 23 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE MAJORITY OF THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. SOME OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH STATE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED. THERE'S NEW LAWS ABOUT HOW WE POST SIGNS ON PROPERTIES FOR ZONING CASES. WE HAVE TO REQUIRE WEBSITE POSTING FOR ZONING CASES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE CONTRADICTS A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S ALSO JUST A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE CHANGED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. WE'VE DONE PLAN REVIEW OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. BACK WHEN MISS TITTLE WAS IN PLANNING, WE FOUND SOME ISSUES AND EVERETT JOHNSON HAS FOUND A FEW THINGS. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. IT'S NOT CHANGING ANY USES. IT'S JUST SOME STRAIGHTFORWARD THINGS. WE DID A UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. NOW THE ZONING DISTRICTS REFERENCE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICE TYPES THAT ARE NO LONGER IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE ONES THAT I PROVIDED. BUT LIKE I SAID, NOTHING CONTROVERSIAL, NOTHING THAT WOULD CHANGE SOMEONE'S PROPERTY TO A NON CONFORMING LAND USE. IT'S CLEANUP ITEMS REQUIRING FENCES AT PARKS. WE'VE RUN INTO THAT ISSUE WITH A FEW HOA LOTS WHERE THEY WERE PUTTING A PLAYGROUND RIGHT NEXT TO THE STREET. >> ANYONE? >> IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ITEM E, CONSIDERED DISCUSSING ACT TO ENTER IN AN AGREEMENT WITH HUITT-ZOLLARS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,172,900 TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE EXPANSION OF ROSAMOND PARKWAY IN THE CITY OF ANNA, TEXAS, CIP MANAGER MUHAMAD MADHAT. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> SAY YOUR LAST NAME FOR ME. >> MADHAT. >> MADHAT? >> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. SORRY. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. TODAY, I'M HERE TO PRESENT AND SHARE THE FUTURE DESIGN SCOPE OF ROSAMOND PARKWAY. [02:00:05] AS YOU MAY KNOW, ROSAMOND PARKWAY IDENTIFIED AS A MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADWAY AND THE CITY MASTER PLAN THROUGH FARE. CURRENTLY, IT'S ONLY ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. NEIGHBORS HAS RAISED INCREASING CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC, ACCESS AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS. NEIGHBORS READ THEIR VOICE. CITY STAFF LISTENED. AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, THE CITY OF ANNA HAS ASKED HUITT-ZOLLARS, AN ENGINEER FIRM ON OUR RFQ APPROVED THIS TO PROVIDE THE DESIGN PROPOSAL FOR THE PROJECT. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES IMPROVEMENT TO PAVING, STORM, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPE, TRAFFIC SIGNAL, AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITY. THE PROPOSAL LIMITS WILL BE FROM EAST OF BUDDY HAYES TO LANGDON DRIVE. WITH THAT IN MIND, I'LL GO THROUGH SOME IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROJECT. AS I SAID, THE EXISTING CONDITION ON MY LEFT HAND SIDE IS THE ROSAMOND PARKWAY. IT'S TWO LANE, EACH LANE ONE DIRECTION. THE PROPOSED LIMIT WILL BE ADDING A FOUR LANE DIVIDED CONCRETE SECTION. THIS INCLUDE TWO TRAVEL LANE IN EACH DIRECTION, AND A RAISED MEDIAN IN THE CENTER, AS WELL AS ADDING SIDEWALK ALONG THE NEW TWO LANES WILL BE ADDED. ALSO WILL FILL UP SOME GAPS ON THE EXISTING LANE FOR THE SIDEWALK. THE BIG MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, WEST CROSSING AND BY THE HAYS ON ROSAMOND PARKWAY. CURRENTLY, THEY ARE CONTROLLED BY STOP SIGN. AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, THE CONSULTANT TRAFFIC ENGINEER WILL CONDUCT A WARRANT STUDY TO DETERMINE IF TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE JUSTIFIED AT THESE INTERSECTIONS. IF THE STUDY SHOWS THAT THEY NEED, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL DESIGN WILL BE DESIGNED. ALSO, CURRENTLY, ROSAMOND PARKWAY, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY LIGHTING ALONG THE ROADWAY. PART OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN INCLUDES ROADWAY LIGHTING PLACED WITHIN THE MEDIAN, EXTENDING ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROJECT LENGTH. ALSO, WE ARE DOING SOME IMPROVEMENT NEAR MASI LAKE LINE AT JOHN FLAVELL CREER PARK. THIS STRETCH OF ROADWAY HAS NO CONTROLLED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE TWO PARKS LOCATED ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET. FAMILIES AND CHILDREN OFTEN NEED TO CROSS THERE, WHICH CREATES A MAJOR SAFETY CONCERN. TO ADDRESS THIS CONCERN, A PROPOSED PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON WILL BE DESIGNED. THIS ADVANCED TYPE OF CROSSING INCLUDE MAST ARM, TRAFFIC SIGNAL POLES, PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL POLES. IT ACTIVATES ONLY WHEN A PEDESTRIAN NEEDS TO CROSS BETWEEN THOSE TWO BARS. ALSO, THERE WILL BE A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAGE AND ROADWAY DESIGNED WITHIN THE PROJECT LIMIT. THE COST OF THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT 1,001,072 AND 900. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVE OF THE DESIGN CONTRACT. I ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DESIGN CONSULTANT, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTION RELATED TO DESIGN. >> IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU. >> ITS MY PLEASURE TOO. >> IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS? >> YES, SIR. I KNOW THIS IS A BIG, TOUCHY ITEM FOR ANNA. I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR A LONG TIME? >> CORRECT. >> BUT DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT? WHEN ARE WE ASSUMING IT'S GOING TO START AND FINISH? >> SO ONCE WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT, BASICALLY, WE'LL HAVE A VISIT WITH A DESIGN CONSULTANT TO THE SITE TO DETERMINE THE EXACT NEEDS. AS FAR AS DESIGN, I WOULD SAY IT TAKES BETWEEN EIGHT TO A YEAR TO BE DESIGNED. WAS DESIGN COMPLETED. THEN WE'LL FIND OUT IF WE HAVE THE BUDGET TO MOVE TO CONSTRUCTION. >> SO WOULD YOU SAY MAYBE 12 TO 18 MONTHS POSSIBLY? >> I'M SORRY? >> TWELVE TO 18 MONTHS WOULD BE A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION AS A TIME FRAME? >> FOR DESIGN? >> FOR DESIGN AND COMPLETION. [02:05:02] >> EIGHT-12 MONTHS. >> FOR COMPLETION AND DESIGN? >> NO. JUST THE DESIGN. >> LET'S JUST SAY WHAT UP TO 12 MONTHS FOR DESIGN AND THEN WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR ACTUALLY GETTING ON THE GROUND AND BREAKING ROAD. >> I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. >> MAYBE 24 MONTHS ROUGH ESTIMATE. >> I WOULD ASK FOR ASSISTANCE. >> SORRY. >> IT'S OKAY UNDERSTAND. I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THE DESIGN TIME FRAME, BUT THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. JOSEPH COTTON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. MUHAMAD HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS. TYPICALLY THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS, I BELIEVE, WHAT IS IN THE CALENDAR IS ABOUT 300 DAYS OR SO. ABOUT 10 MONTHS FOR THE DESIGN, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION AS WE GO THROUGH OUR PROCESSES, THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE GO THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS. WE ALLOW THEM TO GIVE US A TIME FRAME AS WELL. I WOULD ANTICIPATE TO BUILD THESE TWO LANES AND EVERYTHING WE NEED. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABOUT A YEAR TO 18 MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION ONCE WE BEGIN. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS, AS MUHAMAD SAID, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A DETAILED CIP PLAN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FUNDING MECHANISMS. RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DO THE DESIGN, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION HERE IN THE COMING MONTHS. >> THAT'S FANTASTIC. IS THERE A WAY THAT MAYBE WE COULD GENERATE REGULAR UPDATES THAT ARE ADDED IN THE NEWSLETTER FOR ANY CIP PROJECTS, ROADS, ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. THAT JUST PREVENTS A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS. IT'S ALREADY UP THERE. YOU CAN JUST POINT TO IT. >> DEFINITELY. EVERY MONTH, WE'RE ALREADY PROVIDING THAT BOTH FOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND CIP PROJECTS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, YOU'D LIKE MORE DETAIL ON. DEFINITELY, LET US KNOW, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ADDING THAT TO THE MONTHLY UPDATE THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING. >> I THINK THE MONTHLY UPDATE IS FANTASTIC. IT'S JUST HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN YOU PUT TOWARDS THE PUBLIC? THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO ASK IS WHATEVER YOU CAN, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO ADD IT INTO NEWSLETTER, WHEREVER ELSE? >> WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO MAKING SOME MORE OF THAT MORE OUTWARD FACING IN OUR UPDATES AS WELL. YES, SIR. >> PERFECT. >> THEN BACK TO THE AGENDA ITEM. >> BUT THIS IS ON THE DESIGN OF THE ROADS. SO ON THE DESIGN OF THE ROADS, ONCE THE DESIGN IS APPROVED CAN WE GET SIGNS UP THERE SAYING THIS IS THE COST OF THE PROJECT? THIS IS THE TIME FRAME. THIS IS WHO'S APPROVED IT. OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR, I'VE SENT SOME EXAMPLES TO THE CITY MANAGER. BUT YOU GUYS CAN CAN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT SIGNAGE AS WELL THAT EXPLAINS, THIS IS THE PROJECT BEING FUNDED? BECAUSE THE THING IS IT PREVENTS A LOT OF THE WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON. INFORMATION IS RIGHT THERE? PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DRIVE BY IT, THEY GET ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEED OFF THAT ONE SIGN? >> TYPICALLY, I'VE SEEN THOSE SIGNS USED MORE WHEN YOU GO TO CONSTRUCTION. NOT REALLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE. >> ONCE DESIGN IS DONE. >> DEFINITELY, WE WILL HAVE THAT OR WE CAN ADD THAT AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE CONTRACTOR. I THINK ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY HAVE A STANDARD CIP PROJECT SIGN THAT WE CAN TRY TO ADD. WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY MAJOR ROADWAY PROJECTS, AS YOU ALL WOULD KNOW IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT THAT WOULD BE DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS FANTASTIC. I APPRECIATE YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE VERY FIRST SLIDE? THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. >> YES, SIR. >> HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE LOOK INTO IT TO ADDING STRETCH IT TO HIGHWAY FIVE. WHAT IS THAT 100 YARDS? YES. SO ADD TO THE OTHER TWO LANES. IN THAT SECTION. >> YES. THIS WILL BE BUILT BY DEVELOPER. >> DO WE KNOW A TIMELINE? >> PART OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY HAVE APPROVAL FROM TEXTOP? >> THERE'S A CURRENT DEVELOPMENT GOING IN THERE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW, THEY SHOULD HAVE APPROVED ENGINEERING PLANS, PROBABLY MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER AT THE LATEST. ROSAMOND DOES NOT REQUIRE TEXTOP PERMIT, [02:10:02] BUT THE ONE OF THE HOLD UPS ON SORT OF GETTING CONSTRUCTION STARTED IS THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ALONG TEXTOP RIGHT OF WAY. WE ARE WAITING ON THE TEXTOP PERMIT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD ANTICIPATE ONCE THEY GET CIVILS APPROVED, WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN LOOKING AND TALKING TO SOME POTENTIAL TENANTS FOR THE LOTS ON THAT PROPERTY, AND THEY'RE WANTING TO GET STARTED RELATIVELY QUICKLY AS WELL, GOING THROUGH ENGINEERING REVIEW AND THAT THING. THAT PIECE WILL BE WELL AHEAD OF OUR DESIGN. BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN ZONED FOR A WHILE AND IT'S BEEN KIND OF STAGNANT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE HAD HAD TO UPDATE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING GOING ON ANYTIME SOON. IT'S NOT LIKE WE COULDN'T GO AHEAD AND BUILD IT AND THEN A DEVELOPER GO AHEAD. BUT EITHER WAY, TO MOVE ON. WHENEVER THEY DESIGNED THIS ROAD, WE WERE TOLD THAT CRAZY CURVE IS ONLY THERE TEMPORARILY BECAUSE THE DESIGN WAS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR ALL FOUR LANES. ONCE THE FOUR LANES IS OPEN, THAT CURVE IS GONE, IT ELIMINATES. TO CLARIFY, THE FOUR LANES WAS NEVER DESIGNED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THEY JUST DESIGNED WHAT IS THERE NOW. I CAN TELL YOU IN OBTAINING THE RIGHT OF WAY, THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT GIVEN AS TO WHAT THE DESIGN WOULD BE, WHAT THE HORIZONTAL CURVES WOULD NEED TO BE. I'M TALKING MORESO IN FRONT OF THE WIDGET LIGGY PLACE PAST OUR JOHN FLAVELL PARK. THAT'S THE SECTION. >> YES, SIR. BACK ONE MORE. WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS INSTANCE WAS AS THE AREA DEVELOPED, THE DEVELOPERS THAT WENT FIRST, THEY BUILT THEIR ADJACENT LANES. TECHNICALLY, THE WESTBOUND LANES ARE BUILT UP TO FROM BUDDY HAYES TO THE PARK, AND FROM THE PARK TO THE EAST OR THE EASTBOUND LANES. >> WHAT I'M ASKING THOUGH, THE FULL FOUR LANES WASN'T DESIGNED. >> I WAS NEVER DESIGNED. >> IT WAS NEVER DESIGNED. CORRECT. >> IT WAS DESIGNED JUST BECAUSE OF THE LAND ACQUISITION AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. TO TO CLARIFY FOR EVERYONE. I'M SURE YOU GUYS KNOW, NORMALLY WHAT LINDSAY PLACE WOULD HAVE BUILT THEIR FOUR LANES BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING ON BOTH SIDES. BUT WE ASKED THEM TO BUILD TO 75. THAT'S WHY THEY ONLY BUILT TWO LANES BECAUSE WE ASKED THEM TO BUILD PAST THERE NORMAL. >> [INAUDIBLE] ALL THE WAY TO 75. >> ALL WAY TO 75. THAT'S WHY THAT SECTION IS THERE. BUT THIS IS GOING TO SOUND CRAZY AND I KNOW HOW SOME PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THIS TYPE OF INTERSECTION. I'VE LOOKED AT YOU, CHIEF. IS IT A MONEY COST SAVING? IS IT COST SAVING IF WE DID ROUNDABOUTS? BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED LIGHTS. >> IT'S INTERESTING AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH BEING ABLE TO OBTAIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IF THESE WOULD HAVE ORIGINALLY BEEN LOOKED AT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. >> BUT CAN YOU GO TO GO TO THE FIRST INTERSECTION? YOU HAD LIGHTS. KEEP GOING. RIGHT THERE. THAT'S ROSAMOND PARKWAY AND WEST CROSSING. >> I TELL YOU THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY TO MAKE AROUND ABOUT KIRK THERE. WITH HAVING THE BOULEVARD TYPE, THE MEDIAN TYPE ENTRANCES COMING IN FROM ALL FOUR LEGS. IT MAKES A NOT REALLY WHAT THEY EVEN CALL AROUND ABOUT. IT'S MORE OF A TRAFFIC CIRCLE. IT'S A RATHER LARGE FOOTPRINT. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD HAVE TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> IT MAY NOT BE COST SAVINGS. >> I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD BE COST EFFECTIVE AT THIS TIME. AS YOU'VE SEEN WITH A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE STARTING TO COME THROUGH LIBERTY HILLS AND THINGS, THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS AND WHEN THEY'RE DEDICATING THAT INITIAL RIGHT OF WAY. THERE WON'T BE AS MUCH COST AND IT WILL BE A COST SAVINGS. BUT IN THIS CASE, WITH ALREADY HAVING THOSE CORNERS PLANNED OUT, SOME OF THEM HAVE DETENTION PONDS ON THEM. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT RIGHT OF WAY TAKE WOULD AFFECT THAT DETENTION POND. I KNOW THAT THERE'S DEVELOPMENTS PLANNED ON THOSE CORNERS THAT WE'RE TALKING TO SOME OF THOSE HARD CORNER FOLKS THROUGH OUR DRC PROCESS. THAT WOULD CUT INTO THEIR DEVELOPABLE LAND. [02:15:03] >> IS IT POSSIBLE JUST TO ENTERTAIN MY CRAZY ROUNDABOUT DREAM? >> OF JUST CONTACTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND JUST ENTERTAIN THE IDEA. [OVERLAPPING] IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCRETE, BUT LIGHTS ARE EXPENSIVE. WE ALL KNOW BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BUY SOME BECAUSE TEXAS WAS TAKING THEIR TIME. LIGHTS ARE EXPENSIVE. TO ME, IT WOULD MAYBE SAVE MONEY. THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT LOOKING TO DO. I MEAN, IT'S 1.7 MILLION JUST TO DESIGN THIS ROAD. >> YOU ARE CORRECT, AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONAL, JOHN HO, I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, EVEN AT MY PREVIOUS CITY. HE HAS HELPED ME WORK THROUGH SOME INTERESTING CHALLENGES IN THE PAST. THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY RUN THE TRAPS ON AND SEE WHAT THAT RIGHT OF WAY TAKE MAY NEED TO BE IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE WE THINK THAT A TRAFFIC CIRCLE MAY WORK. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS IS JUST THE DESIGN OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. IT WOULD MY OPINION IS I DON'T WANT TO PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN UNTIL THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC IN THE AREA WARRANTS THE NEED FOR ONE. >> WOULD IT BE LIKE FOUR-WAY STOP TO BEGIN WITH? >> ACTUALLY, I WOULD ANTICIPATE PROBABLY ROSAMOND WILL BE THE THROUGH MOVEMENT AND WE WOULD TAKE AWAY THE STOP SIGNS ON ROSAMOND. [OVERLAPPING] ESPECIALLY AT WEST CROSSING. HAVING ROSAMOND NOT STOP AT WEST CROSSING, THAT'S A DANGEROUS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR WRECK. IN MY OPINION. THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE EVALUATE AS YOU GO THROUGH. WE WOULD LOOK AT WHICH LEG IS THE PREDOMINANT LEG. IF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS WARRANTED BY THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING THROUGH THERE, IT MAY BE THAT IT IS WARRANTED THE FIRST DAY, BUT IT MAY BE WARRANTED SOMETIME DOWN THE LINE. A TRAFFIC SIGNAL DESIGN, AS LONG AS WE DEVELOP THAT INTERSECTION CORRECTLY, WE CAN ADD MASK ARMS LATER AND ADD THOSE IN. IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED DAY 1. WE MAY WANT IT TO BE CONSTRUCTED DAY 1 BECAUSE WE STOP MAY BE AN UNTENABLE SOLUTION, BUT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONAL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO EVALUATE THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> WHEREVER IT DOES MAKE SENSE, I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY LET'S LOOK AT USING ROUNDABOUTS. MAYBE WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MAIN ROADS. I THINK THERE'S A PRETTY STEEP LEARNING CURVE ON THAT. BUT I KNOW THAT THE IDEA OF TEMPORARY LIGHTS HAVE BEEN FLOATED AROUND TO SIGNAL LIGHTS. IS THAT STILL SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT OR BUT IS JUST NOT WORTH IT? >> IT WOULD BE MORE DRIVEN BY IF WE WERE HAVING A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS AT THE INTERSECTION. THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I CAN WORK WITH OUR PD. I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT EITHER OF THESE INTERSECTIONS ALONG HERE ARE A MAGNET FOR THAT. WE WOULD NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PROP UP SOME SIGNAL RIGHT NOW. THE TRAFFIC ALONG ROSAMOND IS RATHER HEAVY BECAUSE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDINGS AND ONLY HAVING THE TWO LANES. AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS DESIGN PROCESS WITH OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONALS. >> FANTASTIC ANSWER. YOU KNOW HOW IN SOME OF THE PARKING LOTS AND THEY HAVE THE CAMERAS THAT READ THE LICENSE PLATES. IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THIS MAIN RUN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL? WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER IN THIS PHASE OR ANOTHER TIME? >> IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PLANNED. AGAIN, I GO BACK TO WHERE I CAME FROM RECENTLY AT THE CITY OF ALLEN, WE HAD INCORPORATED A FEW OF THOSE LICENSE PLATE TYPE READERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PD. THEY WERE TYPICALLY AT LIKE A US 75 AND ONE OF OUR MAIN THOROUGHFARE INTERSECTIONS, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT ALSO HAS TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S AVAILABLE FROM A FIBER OPTIC CABLE IN THE AREA BECAUSE IT DOES TRANSMIT A LOT OF INFORMATION AND THEN WHERE DOES THAT INFORMATION GO? HOW DO YOU USE IT? THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. I CAN DEFINITELY, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS DESIGN PROCESS, WORK WITH OUR PD AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN. ABOUT HALF OF THIS BUDGET OR ABOUT 800,000 OF IT IS THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE ROADWAY ITSELF, AND THE OTHER 400,000 INCLUDES THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ANALYSIS, IT INCLUDES THE PEDESTRIAN BEACON DESIGN, [02:20:07] THE LIGHTING DESIGNS, ALL THOSE THINGS. WE'VE GOT SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONALS AND LOOK AT THAT. IF PD SEES IT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IN THIS VICINITY. >> COUNSEL, ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL SHARE WITH YOU IS WE DO HAVE FLIGHT CAMERAS IN THE AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF OF [INAUDIBLE] WANTS TO SPEAK TO IT, BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE DO HAVE THEM. >> PERFECT. THEN JUST ONE FINAL THING, JUST KEEP AN EYE ON THOSE WALKWAYS FOR SOME OF THE KIDS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THEM. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIGHT THERE, BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WALKWAYS WITH A LIGHT, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING, IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PUT SOME FLASHING, PEOPLE CROSSING, WHATEVER IT IS. >> HUNTER IS WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, OR OPERATIONS MANAGER, AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT RE-EVALUATING SIGNS AND NEED FOR SIGNS. I HEARD EARLIER THE CONCERN AROUND THE PARK, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS FROM A SIGNINGS PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THAT. >> PERFECT. THEN FINALLY, JUST KEEP IN MIND THE AESTHETIC APPEAL. MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ADD A COMPONENT OF BEAUTY TO IT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MAIN QUARTERS COMING IN. THANK YOU AGAIN. >> YES, SIR. I LIKE THE LIGHTS THERE AT WEST CROSSING AND ROSAMOND. I NEED THEM AND I LIKE THE CROSSWALKS. I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION IS REALLY GOOD. THE SIDEWALKS. I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE PURPLE HIGHLIGHT ON THE PLAN. I DON'T LOOK LIKE IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE 75 CONNECTOR. WILL THIS CONNECT 75 TO POWELL, ALL THE WAY ON BOTH SIDES. >> IT IS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN BUDDY HAYES. THE WESTBOUND LANES ARE ALREADY CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN BUDDY HAYES AND US 75. THE DEVELOPER ON THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF ROSAMOND AND 75 WILL BE CONSTRUCTING THEIR PORTION OF THOSE TWO LANES AS WELL AS A SECTION JUST PAST BUDDY HAYES. >> NOT THE LANES, BUT THE SIDEWALKS. >> THEY WILL ALSO, AS THEY DEVELOP THROUGH, EACH OF THOSE LOTS WILL BUILD THEIR SUBSEQUENT SECTIONS OF THE SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY TO 75 FROM BUDDY HAYES TO US 75. AS MUHAMAD MENTIONED, WE ARE GOING TO EVALUATE ANY MISSING SECTIONS THAT ARE BASICALLY BETWEEN BUDDY HAYES AND LANGDON, POTENTIALLY EVEN DOWN BY THE PARK. IF THERE'S ANY AREAS THAT WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL BFRS, BARRIER-FREE-RAMPS, IF THERE'S ANY LOCATIONS, WE NEED TO LOOK AT DOING THOSE, WE'LL EVALUATE THAT. BUT THE SIDEWALKS THEMSELVES WILL BE CONSTRUCTED FROM THE GREEN SECTION ON THE RIGHT SIDE. ACTUALLY, I APOLOGIZE. THAT SECTION OF SIDEWALK WILL ACTUALLY BE BUILT WITH THAT SECTION OF ROSAMOND WHEN THE DEVELOPER BUILDS IT. FOR THE RIGHT SECTION UP TO HIGHWAY 5. THEN AS THE LOTS DEVELOP ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROJECT BETWEEN BUDDY HAYES AND US 75, THOSE WILL COME A LITTLE BIT MORE SPORADICALLY. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE ALREADY TALKING TO PATH SITE BUILDERS FOR THOSE SITES THAT UNDERSTAND THEY'VE GOT TO BUILD THEIR SECTION OF THE SIDEWALK. THAT MAY BE A TAD BIT DELAY. BUT AS THEY BEGIN CONSTRUCTION, THEY ARE AGAIN AHEAD OF US IN DESIGN, BOTH OF THOSE CORNERS ARE. IT MAY ALL BE COMING TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME HERE IN ABOUT 2.5 YEARS OR SO. >> I KNOW WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF TIME INTO THIS ITEM AND APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS. I DON'T LIKE ALL THIS PIECE MILL DEVELOPMENT. I KNOW WHY WE DO IT. WE'VE BEEN EXPLAINED BY MANY CITY PLANNERS WHY WE DO IT, BUT WHENEVER THE ROAD, I THINK YOU WERE ALLUDING TO THIS, KEVIN. WHATEVER THE ROADS PUT THROUGH, WHETHER IT'S ONE LANE, BOTH LANE, SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS, ALL THE SIDEWALKS, IT SEEMS LIKE THE PLAN IS DONE AT THAT POINT. THE MOMENT SOMEONE STARTS LAYING DOWN CONCRETE AND ASPHALT, THERE'S A PLAN, AND WE'RE HAVING TO COME BACK IN AND FILL IN THE GAPS, [02:25:05] TO COMPLETE ROADS THAT ARE ALREADY OBVIOUSLY STARTED. DO WE HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY? >> WHAT I CAN SAY IS A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE IN PLACE AT THE TIME. AS IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE REASON, EVEN THOUGH DR HORTON WAS DEVELOPING ON BOTH SIDES, WE HAD WORKED OUT WITH THEM THAT THEY WOULD BUILD A SECTION THAT WAS OFFSITE VERSUS THEM BUILDING BOTH SIDES OF ROSAMOND BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THAT CONNECTION TO 75 WAS A VITAL PIECE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS WE LOOK AT NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE ARE EVALUATING WHAT ADDITIONAL THAT WE CAN HELP WITH. BUT A LOT OF IT IS OUR CODE STATES, YOU HAVE TO IMPROVE YOUR SECTION THAT YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO. ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND, THE CITY HAS TO COVER IN THE COST SOMEHOW. BUT AGAIN, IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE DAS AND THINGS. A LOT OF THESE DAS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT, BUT ANYONE'S GOING FORWARD, WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND POSSIBLY FINISH OUT SOME ROADS, MAKE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLETE AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. BUT THE WAY THE CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THEY'RE ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PIECE THAT THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO. BUT IF IT'S ALSO ON THE MASTER [INAUDIBLE] PLAN AND HAS BEEN PART OF THE IMPACT FEE STUDY, THEY'RE ALSO ELIGIBLE TO GET IMPACT FEE CREDIT FOR CONSTRUCTING THAT ROADWAY. >> SURE. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, SAY DR HORTON IN THIS PARTICULAR ACTUALLY IS NOT GOOD ONE TO CHOOSE? BETWEEN FERGUSON AND WEST CROSS AND SAID WE HAD A DEVELOPER WHO COMES IN DOES ONE SIDE OF IT. COULDN'T WE WORK IN AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT WE GO AHEAD AND DO ALL OF THE ENGINEERING FOR IT? IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WILL BE A TREMENDOUS LEFT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY HAVING TO HANDLE ALL OF THE LANDSCAPE AND ALL OF THE CONTOURS THAT ARE OCCURRING THROUGH THERE. I MEAN, SOMEBODY IS SERVING ALL OF THAT DIRT. THEN WE AS A CITY, WE HAVE THAT ASSET FOR THE OTHER LANE, THEN THE NEXT DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN, THEY OWE US FOR THAT PART OR SOMEHOW IT BECOMES PART OF THE FINANCIAL TRANSACTION BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE ALL THE WORK AND WE CAN MOVE THINGS ALONG A LOT FASTER. FOR ME, ROSAMOND IS PAINFUL [INAUDIBLE] IS PAINFUL. BUT I THINK WHAT'S ABSOLUTELY USELESS IS HAVING A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE. I DON'T WANT TO DEVELOP LIKE THAT ANYMORE. AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND AS YOU GUYS ARE FIGURING THIS THING OUT, I WANT TO BUILD OUR CITY A LOT BETTER THAN [INAUDIBLE]. THANKS FOR DOING THIS. >> YES, SIR. >> COUPLE OF FOLLOW UPS. CAN YOU PULL UP THE PICTURE THAT SHOWS THE ROADWAY THAT SPLIT. THAT SHOWS THE ISLAND. PERFECT RIGHT HERE. IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO REMOVE THAT ISLAND AND JUST HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD MORE LANES NOW? HOW WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I'M ASKING OFF THE CUFF, SO I'M SURE YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE NUMBERS, BUT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. BECAUSE THAT'S SO CONCRETE COST OF STILL LABOR. WE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SOME TYPE OF TREES AND FOLIAGE, MAYBE IN THE MIDDLE. THIS IS A WAY TO JUST GET RID OF THAT. PUT THE SIDE WAY ONLY ON ONE SIDE AND HAVE THREE LANES ON EACH SIDE, JUST RUNNING. >> I DON'T MEAN WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY TO BE FLIP IT IN ANY WAY, BUT WITH ENOUGH MONEY, I CAN DO ANYTHING. [LAUGHTER] RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING 1.35 MILES OF TWO LANES. BASICALLY 2.7 LANE MILES. TO DO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE BUILDING IN ANOTHER FOUR LANE MILES. IF I JUST TAKE THE COST OF SAY WHAT THREE LANE MILES ARE GOING TO COST ME, WHICH I ASSUME IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 10-$12 MILLION TO CONSTRUCT, YOU'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE [02:30:01] CLOSE TO $30 MILLION TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL TWO LANES. NOT JUST DESIGN COSTS. DESIGN COSTS PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO GO UP BY THAT MUCH BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. HE'S GOING TO GO GRAB MOST OF THE SURVEY TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN A HAWK AND THE HAWK WILL BE THE SAME OR THE PEDESTRIAN BEACON WILL BE THE SAME. ALL THOSE THINGS. THE COST OF DOING SOMETHING TODAY IS DEFINITELY CHEAPER. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THOUGH IS THAT ONCE WE ADD THOSE TWO LANES, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU FEEL ON ROSAMOND TODAY AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL ON ROSAMOND IN THE FUTURE. I HATE TO KEEP POINTING BACK TO ALAN, BUT THEY HAVE SOME MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THAT THEY'RE NOT PLANNING IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS TO ADDING THEIR FIFTH AND SIXTH LANE BECAUSE THE THROUGHPUT VALUE OF THAT FIFTH AND SIXTH LANE IN A RESIDENTIAL EVEN ARTERIAL SETTING, THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE VALUE OF IT YET. NOW, WE MAY SEE THE VALUE IN THE FUTURE AS THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS AT ROSAMOND DEVELOP, THAT WE MAY NEED THOSE THIRD LANES IN THAT SECTION BETWEEN BUDDY HAYES AND 75 SOONER THAN WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT FURTHER DOWN ROSAMOND. BUT I WOULD SUGGEST AT THIS POINT WE CONTINUE ON WITH THE PLAN WE HAVE. EVEN THOUGH YES, THE COST OF BUILDING CONCRETE DOES NOTHING BUT GO UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OR OVER THE YEARS. BUT I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE VALUE DAY 1 THAT INVESTMENT AT THIS MOMENT WOULD PROVIDE US. I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF SPENDING THAT ADDITIONAL, SAY, $15 MILLION IN A DIFFERENT PART OF TOWN, TRYING TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANES TO LINDSAY OR ADD ADDITIONAL LANES TO OTHER PORTIONS OF TOWN VERSUS THE INCREASE THAT YOU WOULD FEEL IN THIS ONE CORRIDOR. IT WOULD MAKE THIS ONE CORRIDOR. A BREEZE. BUT YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THOSE PIN POINTS AT OTHER POINTS IN TOWN, WHERE WE CAN USE THAT MONEY MORE. >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY YOU COULD HAVE ANSWERED THAT. YOU WEREN'T FLIPPING IN ANY WAY. ACTUALLY, YOU WERE VERY TECHNICAL, AND YOU HAD A VERY THOROUGH RESPONSE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS A BIG PROPONENT OF AS WELL IS, HEY, WE NEED TO OVERBUILD SOME OF THESE ROADS, BUT IT'S KEY ROADS, NOT JUST EVERY ROAD. TO YOUR POINT, IT ADDS APPROXIMATELY $15 MILLION IF WE EXPAND IT. WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY HACKBERRY WE CAN TAKE CARE OF. BRET SO I LOVED YOUR ANSWER. I HOPE TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU. FANTASTIC. >> YES, SIR. >> A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. >> MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT'LL TAKE US TO ITEM 7F. FIRST READING OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING AN EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $250,000 FROM THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO THE ANNA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS. SECOND READING OF A RESOLUTION, APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING AN EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $250,000 FROM THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO THE ANNA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS. TAKES ME TO ITEM 8. CONSIDER DISCUSS AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $250,000 FROM THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO THE ANNA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JOEY GRISHAM. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL. MAYOR. I KNOW YOU LOVE THESE READINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP DOING. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COUNCIL. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT GOES BACK A FEW YEARS WHEN THE EDC AND CDC ENTERED INTO AGREEMENT WITH MR. HENDRIX TO SELL OR PURCHASE SOME OF HIS PROPERTY, AND ALSO AS A PART OF THAT WAS OF A SWAP WITH THE E CUBE, BUT AS A PART OF THAT AGREEMENT, THERE WAS A $250,000 GRANT FROM THE CDC TO THE EDC BACK IN OCTOBER 2003. THE CDC BOARD APPROVED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING AND JUST NEEDS YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD. >> COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. > I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> WHO SAID SECOND? I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. [02:35:17] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS. THAT TAKES ME TO 7I. JOE, [LAUGHTER] FIRST READING OF THE RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AUTHORIZING AN EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $75,000, IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF ANNA'S APPLICATION OF THE TEXAS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND PROGRAM. SECOND READING OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING AN EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $75,000, IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF ANNA'S APPLICATION OF THE TEXAS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND PROGRAM. THEN ITEM K, CONSIDER DISCUSS AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $75,000 IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF ANNA'S APPLICATION OF THE TEXAS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND PROGRAM. MR. JOEY GRISHAM. >> THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR. APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS FROM A GRANT AS WAS READ TWO TIMES. IT IS A $75,000 GRANT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD, SUCCESSFUL GRANT APPLICATION, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON REGAN STREET. AGAIN, THE BOARD APPROVED IT AND IT'S IN YOUR HANDS NOW AS WELL. >> THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> NO. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. TAKES US TO ITEM L, AND THIS IS HOW YOU KNOW THAT JOEY HATES ME. FIRST READING OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AUTHORIZING AN EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $100,000 FOR THE DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES WHICH ARE LOCATED ON THE DOWNTOWN CDC OWNED PROPERTIES. ITEM M, SECOND READING OF A RESOLUTION, APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $100,000 FOR THE DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES, WHICH ARE LOCATED ON THE DOWNTOWN CDC OWNED PROPERTIES. ITEM N, CONSIDER DISCUSSING ACT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $100,000 FOR THE DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES, WHICH ARE LOCATED ON THE DOWNTOWN CDC OWNED PROPERTIES. MR. GRISHAM. >> MAYOR, ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, YOU JUST BLEW THROUGH NINE ITEMS IN THREE MINUTES. THIS IS FOR A SUGGESTED THE CDC ON PROPERTIES DOWNTOWN, AS YOU KNOW, THE CDC, EDC HAS BEEN PURCHASING PROPERTY FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. TO KIND OF CLEAR THESE OUT AND GET THEM READY DEVELOPMENT READY, WE WILL BE IN DEMOLITION MODE FOR SIX HOMES. AGAIN, THIS WENT TO THE BOARD, HAD THEIR APPROVAL AND JUST NEEDS COUNCIL APPROVAL. AS FAR AS TIMELINE, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE IN MID SEPTEMBER, IS THE PLAN. SOMETIME AROUND MID SEPTEMBER IS WHEN THIS WOULD TAKE PLACE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. >> I MOVE TO A PROOF. >> BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF, AND YOUR BOARD FOR JUST HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING ON ALL OF THIS. I APPRECIATE THE SPEED. DON'T SLOW DOWN. >> I'LL SECOND. ALSO, MAYOR, MAYBE JOE JUST MISSED YOUR VOICE AND HE WANTED TO HEAR THE VOICE OF THE FILE. >> COULD WAIT TILL FRIDAY? >> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] >> IF I COULD JUST SAY ONE THING. CAN YOU GUYS TAKE SOME PICTURES OF EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT? JUST SO WHEN WE ADDED TO OUR PRESERVATION IN OUR HISTORICAL SOCIETY, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. WHERE WE ARE NOW, ONCE THE PROJECTS ARE DONE? PERFECT. THANK YOU, GUYS. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. TAKES ME TO ITEM O. CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION CREATING A POLICY FOR INTERVIEWING AND APPOINTING BOARD MEMBERS. MS. LAND. >> YES, SIR. THE PURPOSE OF THIS POLICY IS TO ESTABLISH FRAMEWORK TO ENSURE THE MOST SUITABLE CANDIDATES ARE RECRUITED AND APPOINTED FOR SERVICES OF ANNA BOARD AND COMMISSIONS. THIS POLICY SEEKS TO ASSIST THE COUNCIL AND STAFF INVOLVED IN THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS WITH CONSISTENT PROCEDURES AND STANDARDS. THIS CAME BEFORE YOU ON AUGUST THE 12TH, AND THE POLICY THAT WAS PRESENTED WAS DENIED. IT WAS A WRONG POLICY THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET. [02:40:03] I APOLOGIZE AGAIN. THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF CHANGING THE PROCESS BY HAVING A SEVEN MEMBER INTERVIEW COMMITTEE. IF STAFF HAS BROUGHT THIS BACK TO SEEK YOUR GUIDANCE ON HOW YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE POLICY. >> COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> I JUST THINK GOING TO A SEVEN MEMBER INTERVIEW IS A BAD IDEA. WE SELECT INTERVIEW COMMITTEE. WE HAVE STANDARDIZED QUESTIONS, INTERVIEW CARDS. WE KEEP COPIOUS NOTES. THOSE NOTES BECOME OFFICIAL RECORDS MAINTAINED. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER HR RECORD, WE'D BE MAINTAINED. EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCILS HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE INTERVIEW CARDS. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO BRING AND THE NEIGHBORS UP BEFORE A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD. >> CREATES A QUORUM ISSUE AS WELL. >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> I LIKE AND DISLIKE THE SEVEN. I THINK I'M MORE LEANING TOWARDS IT BECAUSE IT GIVES IN THE PAST, IF THERE WAS AN ELECTION, SOMEONE COMING UP AN ELECTION, WE DIDN'T THOSE TWO OR SOME YEARS ONE, SOME YEARS THREE. THOSE TWO OR THREE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO BE ON THE INTERVIEW COMMITTEE. SOMETIMES WE HAD TO BRING ONE ON, BUT LET'S NOT REALLY TO NEGOTIATE, BUT LET ME THROW OUT AN IDEA. WHAT IF WE GO TO FIVE? >> I'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT A MOTION TO APPROVE NO CHANGES, IF I CAN GET A SECOND. >> YOU'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? >> YES. >> OKAY. >> I'LL SECOND BECAUSE I LIKE THE WAY THAT THIS ONE'S WRITTEN. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? BECAUSE I WILL SAY THIS. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT JOB. I THINK THAT WE WERE ALL ELECTED, PART OF OUR JOB IS TO PUT PEOPLE ON THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND WE'RE JUST HAVING THREE PEOPLE DO IT INSTEAD OF THE COUNCIL. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN, REALLY. >> BEFORE WE TAKE THIS VOTE SO IF THERE'S NOT SOME WAY THAT WE COULD DO THIS, NOT SOLELY OUT IN FRONT OF ALL THE PUBLIC, BUT HAVE THEM AT A LOCATION OFFSITE INTERVIEW WITH THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. [OVERLAPPING] >> INDIVIDUALLY FORM ISSUE, BECAUSE YOU WOULD STILL NEED OF THESE FOUR PEOPLE THERE. THEN THE ONLY THING THAT YOU COULD PRIVATIZE WAS THE COMMISSIONS, EVERY OTHER BOARD WOULD HAVE TO BE PUBLIC PARKS, ALL OF THESE. THAT'S A PROBLEM WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALL COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE UP THERE, WE'RE AT THE END OF THE DAY POLITICAL AS WELL. WE ALL HAVE OUR CHOICES. THE LAST THING WE NEED IS US FIGHTING OR ANY COUNCIL FIGHTING OVER QUALIFIED CANDIDATES IN PUBLIC AND RUINING THEIR REPUTATION AS WELL. IF THERE WAS A HAPPY MEDIUM, I THINK, THERE WOULD BE AMPLE ROOM FOR US TO FIND IT, BUT AT THIS POINT, THE QUORUM IS THE BIG ISSUE BECAUSE THAT CREATES A PUBLIC HURDLE. IF WE WANT QUALIFIED PEOPLE, WE CAN'T GO OUT THERE AND PUBLICLY EXCRUCIATE THEM. ONCE AGAIN, FOR THAT MOTION [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M NOT SAYING PUBLICLY EXCRUCIATING, BUT I'M SAYING THAT IT STATES THAT EACH ONE OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS PART OF OUR JOB DESCRIPTION IS [OVERLAPPING] >> HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW PARKS AND OTHER BOARDS THAT ARE NOT COMMISSIONS WOULD NOT BE PUBLIC? HOW WOULD THEY NOT BE PUBLIC? >> IF WE TAKE THEM TO AN OFFSITE. >> HOW YOU WOULD STILL HAVE QUORUM? >> YOU STILL HAVE CAMERAS HERE. THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT. [OVERLAPPING] IT IS OFF SITE, YOU HAVE QUORUM AND ANY PUBLIC MEMBER COULD COME AND SIT THERE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S STILL PUBLIC. WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE DONE HERE. WE'VE DONE OFF SITE BEFORE. IT CAN BE DONE. >> BUT YOU GUYS CHANGED THE RULES TO ADDRESS IT. >> DO WE CHANGE THE RULES? >> I THINK WE'VE MADE OUR POINTS. >> IT'S WORKED THIS WAY SINCE 2019. WHY CHANGE IT? EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO THE NOTES THAT WE TAKE. >> YEAH, BUT WE DON'T GET TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE. WHAT IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ASK A QUESTION I WANT TO ASK? >> TELL US WHAT QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO. >> IF I DON'T KNOW UNTIL I'M SITTING THERE IN FRONT OF THE PERSON AND IT COMES TO ME, HEY, MAYBE I SHOULD ASK ABOUT THIS? >> I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN APPROPRIATE THOUGHT CONSIDERATION AS WELL, CONSIDERING THAT YOU RECOMMENDED PUTTING YOURSELF ON THE EDC LIAISON WITHOUT ANY VOTE OR ANY CONSIDERATION FOR ANY OTHER CANDIDATES. I WOULD JUST LIKE THE PUBLIC TO SEE THERE IS A LEVEL OF HYPOCRISY THAT'S BEING PRESENTED HERE. THANK YOU. [02:45:05] >> OKAY. WELL, I SAY WHAT I'M WANTED TO SAY AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL. >> I'LL GO AHEAD AND [OVERLAPPING] >> WE WILL HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE ON THE TABLE. >> I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGAIN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> YEAH, I SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. >> MOTION PASSES 4:3. TAKES ME TO ITEM P. CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS COUNCIL LIAISON. MS. LAND. >> YES, SIR. USUALLY, RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION RUNOFF, WE APPOINT BOARD CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT AS OF YET. WE NEED TO DO THAT. WE HAVE A VACANCY ON THE EDC CDC BOARD, AND AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION. >> THOSE ARE THE TWO WE NEED TO GET LIAISONS TO RIGHT NOW? COUNCIL ANY NOMINATIONS? >> NOMINATE STAND FOR EDC CDC. >> WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR COUNCILMAN CARVER, FOR THE EDC LIAISON POSITION, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES? WHO WOULD YOU HAVE FOR A SECOND? >> I HAVE ONE. >> THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT TAKES US TO THE NEI. ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR NOMINATIONS FOR THAT? >> I'LL NOMINATE MANNY FOR THAT. >> OKAY. WHO IS THAT, MANNY? >> HERE. >> SECOND. >> WHO WAS THAT? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR COUNCILMAN SINGH FOR THE LIAISON POSITION FOR THE NEI. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. GRACE IS QUICK. [LAUGHTER] MOTION PASSES. THAT TAKES US TO THE END OF THE AGENDA. DID WE NEED CLOSED SESSION? I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. >> NORMALLY, WE DO ALL THE LIAISONS. ARE WE ONLY GOING TO DO THOSE TWO OR ARE WE GOING TO [OVERLAPPING] >> I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST FILLING POSITIONS. >> FEELING VACANCIES? >> YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS JOE WAS A LIAISON. THEN WHEN HE WAS GONE, WE DIDN'T DECIDE AT ALL. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 9, CLOSED SESSION. [9. Closed Session (Exceptions).] UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, THE CITY COUNCIL MANDER IN THE CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ANY ITEMS LISTED OR REFERENCED ON THIS AGENDA UNDER THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.072, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.087, AND TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.074, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE SESSION? >> MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. [LAUGHTER] >> EVERYBODY, YOU READY? YOU HAVE MOTION. WHO SECONDED THAT? >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> COUNCILWOMAN HERNDON, SECONDED. IF YOU WOULD CAST YOUR VOTES. WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION AT 8:53 PM. I WAS WAITING FOR IT TO COME UP. LIVE. IT'S 9:32 PM. SEEING NO OBJECTION. WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.