[00:00:01] ALL RIGHT. SORRY FOR BEING A COUPLE OF MINUTES LATE. THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANNA WILL MEET ON TUESDAY, JULY 22ND, AT 6 P.M. [1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.] IN THE ANNA MUNICIPAL COMPLEX COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 120 WEST 7TH STREET, TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN OPEN SESSION AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT THE OPINION SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM AND TURN IT INTO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THIS MEETING GETS GOING. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL AND ESTABLISH A QUORUM. WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A QUORUM. EVERYONE IS HERE. I AM GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT THIS TIME. I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER CARVER TO DO OUR INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. GREETINGS IF YOU ALL JOIN ME IN A PRAYER AND PLEDGE. MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU. JUST THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR AND THE PRIVILEGE AND JOY OF LIVING IN THE CITY OF ANNA. I PRAY THAT YOUR HAND ALWAYS BE UPON US, OUR COMMUNITY, OR OUR STAFF, OUR FIRE, POLICE AND MEDICS AS THEY ARE CALLED UPON. I PRAY THAT THIS EVENING, AS ALWAYS, THAT YOUR WISDOM BE IMPARTED UPON US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR NOW AND FOR THE FUTURE, AND FOR ALL OF US THAT ARE LIVING HERE. I PRAY THAT YOUR JOY AND PEACE BE UPON US AT ALL TIMES. IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU STAN THAT'LL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM 3, WHICH IS NEIGHBOR COMMENTS. I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ANY NEIGHBOR COMMENTS FOR THIS SESSION. EVERYTHING I HAVE HERE IS PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO REPORTS. [4. Reports.] RECEIVE REPORTS FROM STAFF OF THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. 4.A IS RECOGNITION OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. THEY HAVE MET FIVE WEEKS IN A ROW. IT WAS A BIG TASK. THEY GOT IT TAKEN CARE OF, AND WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEM THIS EVENING. I'M NOT GOING TO BE RUSTLING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? TEST, TEST, ONE, TWO, CHECK, CHECK, CHECK. LEVELS? GOOD. OKAY ALL RIGHT. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME ON DOWN. GET YOUR CERTIFICATE AND HOPEFULLY A PICTURE. FIRST UP, I'VE GOT JESSICA WALDON. YOU WANT TO OPEN IT UP APPRECIATE IT. BRUCE NORWOOD. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. LYNN. BRIAN. AIN'T THEY'RE GAMBLING ON WHO'S GETTING CALLED UP NEXT OVER THERE IN THE CORNER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU JUSTIN INIESTA. I KNOW JUSTIN'S NOT GOING TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, BUT LET'S HEAR IT FOR HIM. HE DID A GREAT JOB. HE CONTACTED ME EARLY AND SAID HE'S GOING TO BE CELEBRATING HIS 12.5 YEARS OF SOBRIETY THIS EVENING WITH HIS WIFE. SO VERY GOOD. SUSAN JONES. THANK YOU SUSAN. THERESA KING BELL. HIGHS IN THE FRONT ROW [LAUGHTER]. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. TOYA MORRISON. [00:05:07] THANK YOU MA'AM APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. RANDY SACHS. SITTING ON THE WRONG SIDE RANDY [LAUGHTER]. KEEPING YOU ON YOUR TOES THANK YOU BUD. GRETCHEN STEWART. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME APPRECIATE YOU. I CAN'T MAKE ANY COMMENTS UNDER MY BREATH WITH THIS THING YOU KNOW THAT. RIGHT? THANKS A LOT. KATE SWAFFORD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ROBBIE CELL. THANK YOU ROBBIE APPRECIATE IT. OH TAKE THAT WITH YOU [LAUGHTER]. AND NATHAN. WILBUR. MAYBE NOT. OKAY. YOU WANT TO GET A GROUP PICTURE? YEAH. CAN WE GET A GROUP PICTURE? WOULD YOU GUYS BE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT? SO COME ON BACK UP. EXCELLENT THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT THAT'LL TAKE US ON TO ITEM 5 CONSENT ITEMS. [5. Consent Items.] THESE ITEMS CONSIST OF NON-CONTROVERSIAL OR HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW. ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUESTS PRIOR TO A MOTION AND A VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. COUNSELORS ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FROM OUR CONSENT AGENDA. I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM D. ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS 5 A, B, C, E THROUGH I L. I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT, I GUESS I'LL TAKE OF MY GLASSES ALL RIGHT IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. OKAY. IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ONE ITEM YOU HAVE IT? OKAY UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM 5.D. WHAT? NO, IT'S 5.D. [5.d. Approve an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Anna, Texas Approving the 2025 Annual Service Plan Update to the Service and Assessment Plan, including the Assessment Rolls, for the AnaCapri Public Improvement District in accordance with Chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code, as amended; and Providing an Effective Date (Assistant Director of Economic Development Natasha Roach)] APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANNA, TEXAS, APPROVING THE 2025 ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN UPDATE TO THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, INCLUDING THE ASSESSMENT ROLES FOR THE ANACAPRI PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 372, [00:10:03] TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AS AMENDED, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NATASHA ROACH. SORRY YOU'RE FINE GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS ITEM IS A ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT FOR OUR PIDS. THEY ARE THE UPDATED ASSESSMENT ROLES FOR ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR PHASE OF ANACAPRI. IT ESSENTIALLY LETS US KNOW WHAT LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND ARE OCCUPIED AND CURRENTLY PAYING THEIR ASSESSMENTS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? HAVE THEY ACTUALLY STARTED BUILDING INTO PHASE TWO? I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY HAVE YET NO, SIR. BUT I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK ON THAT. IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THAT ORGANIZATION? I DON'T BELIEVE SO WE WEREN'T EXPECTING ONE. COULD, CITY MANAGER, CAN WE GET SOME CLARITY? I KNOW THIS IS THE PID PART. THIS IS US DOING OUR PART FOR ANACAPRI AGAIN. SOMEONE FROM ANACAPRI WHO'S A DECISION MAKER AND AN AUTHORITY FIGURE, NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND BRING US UP TO DATE. WHAT'S GOING ON? WHERE'S OUR LAGOON? WHEN IS PHASE ONE GOING TO BE FINISHED? AND YOU KNOW JUST A REMINDER. THEY HAVE A STANDING AGREEMENT WITH THIS COUNCIL. THEY CANNOT START PHASE TWO UNTIL THAT LAGOON IS BUILT. YES, COUNCILMEMBER. WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AND WE'LL ARRANGE A TIME TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND THAT WILL TAKE US ON TO AGENDA ITEM 6 ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND PUBLIC HEARINGS. [6. Items For Individual Consideration and Public Hearings.] AT THE TIME AND PLACE OF ANY PUBLIC HEARING HELD DURING THE MEETING ALL PERSONS WHO DESIRE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE, APPLICATION OR OTHER PROPOSED ITEM. WE'LL START WITH 6.A, WHICH IS CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION'S REPORT. CITY SECRETARY MS. CARRIE LAND. THANK YOU MAYOR. THE CHARTER COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED THE CHARTER, AND THEY MET FOR FIVE WEEKS, MONDAY OF MAY THROUGH JUNE. THE PROPOSED REVIEW WAS TO ENSURE THE OTHER CHARTER REMAINS ALIGNED WITH CURRENT CITY OPERATIONS, COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW, AND REFLECTS BEST PRACTICES FOR MUNICIPAL GOVERNANCE. FOLLOWING THE REVIEW, THE COMMISSION HAS FINALIZED A LIST OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WHICH ARE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET FEEDBACK FROM THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ON ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO ADD OR REMOVE FROM THE LIST. THE RESOLUTION IS SIMPLY ACCEPTING THE REPORT AS WRITTEN. OKAY, SO WE WILL HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH IT, MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, TAKE OUT WHAT WE DON'T LIKE, AND ADD WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD. RIGHT? YES SIR COUNCIL? DO WE HAVE A DEADLINE FOR THAT? I WOULD SAY AUGUST 12TH. YES, SIR HAVE SOMETHING TO DISCUSS RIGHT NOW, ABSOLUTELY. OTHERWISE I'D SAY GO THROUGH IT, GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE REPORT, SEE WHAT YOU THINK. AND THEN OUR NEXT WORK SESSION, WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND TALK IT THROUGH. YEAH. CHAIRPERSON WALDEN IS HERE TO PRESENT THE REPORT TO YOU. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN ASK HER. WE CAN BRING HER UP HERE AND JUST LET HER STAND AROUND FOR TEN MINUTES AND ASK HER A LOT OF QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT. OKAY NO ALL RIGHT, WELL, I TRIED [LAUGHTER]. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU, MS. LAND AND THANK YOU, MS. WALDEN. THANKS FOR THE WORK ON THIS. WE APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY I HAVEN'T READ THROUGH THIS. I THINK THEY'VE DONE A STELLAR JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME YOU SPENT PUTTING IT TOGETHER. AND I'VE ALREADY TAKEN A FEW LOOKS AT IT AND I'LL TELL YOU, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS I CAN RECOMMEND, BUT IT LOOKS REALLY [00:15:05] IT WAS PRETTY TIME INTENSIVE. AND IT WAS A LOT OF MEETINGS AND A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND THEY REALLY, REALLY DID A GOOD JOB GOING THROUGH ALL OF IT SO I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. SO OUR ACTION WOULD BE TO REVISIT BY AUGUST 12TH TO CARRY TO THE CITY SECRETARY AND THEN IT COMES ON TO OUR NEXT MEETING OR? WE HAVE TO CALL. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE TO CALL THE ELECTION BY AUGUST THE 18TH, WHICH IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU AT THE AUGUST 12TH MEETING FOR YOUR FINAL ACTION. OKAY SO YOU NEED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE THAT. CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. I HONESTLY THINK A BIT OF DISCUSSION SHOULD TAKE PLACE TONIGHT ONLY BECAUSE SO WE'RE NOT DOING IT ALL. ON AUGUST 12TH AND WE'RE NOT. SO THE BOARD, THE CHAIR, OR CARRIE CAN HAVE SOME ANSWERS BY AUGUST 12TH, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT. A COUPLE OF THEM. WELL, THAT'S WHAT IT'S HERE FOR LET'S GO. LET'S DO IT. SO I'LL START OFF MY OWN. I LIKE THE TERM LIMITS AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE ELECTIONS EVERY TWO YEARS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING AT. RIGHT? WE'RE NOT HAVING SOMEONE LOOK AT ME AND KIND OF NOD YOUR HEAD. SO WE'RE NOT HAVING ELECTIONS EVERY YEAR AND THE WHOLE REPETITIVENESS. THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS 4 SEATS UP ON THIS DAIS, ONE BEING THE MAYOR SEAT THE SAME YEAR. YEAH, THAT SCARES ME BECAUSE THAT THINGS HAPPEN WHENEVER THAT KIND OF STUFF TAKES PLACE. BUT AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PROTECT ANY OF US. IT'S JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORS. IT'S JUST THAT JUST REALLY CONCERNED ME. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN STILL KIND OF ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE BOARD DID WITH THE TWO EVERY TWO YEARS AND ELECTIONS. AND STILL, I DON'T KNOW. COULD WE INVITE SOMEONE FROM THE COMMISSION TO ENTERTAIN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? AND BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT JUST US ASKING THESE. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE REALLY WANTING TO GET THEIR HEAD AROUND THESE CHANGES. SO YEAH, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME WHICH PERSON SPEAKS, JUST WHOEVER FEELS COMPETENT AND PASSIONATE, IF YOU WILL, ABOUT THE FOUR YEAR TERMS. THAT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. OH, OR WHOEVER IS A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT [LAUGHTER]. IF YOU CAN KIND OF JUST START OFF BY EXPLAINING THE REASONS WHY Y'ALL CAME UP WITH THAT. I KNOW SOME OF THE COUNCIL ASKED FOR A TERM LIMIT FOR THE COUNCIL. I WAS ONE OF THEM. AND EVEN I WAS OKAY WITH THE FOUR EVERY FOUR, YOU KNOW, FOUR-YEAR TERMS. MY QUESTION IS, WHERE DID THE ELECTIONS BEING EVERY OTHER YEAR COME FROM AND WHY FOUR SEATS? AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND WHY FOUR SEATS IN SEVEN OF US. BUT IS THERE AN ANSWER TO NOT HAVING 4 IN 1 YEAR? I THINK ANYWHERE YOU BREAK DOWN SEVEN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR SOMEWHERE MIC]. NO. IT DOESN'T SERVE ANY PURPOSE SO WHAT DO THEY EVEN KNOW? I THINK IT GETS US AWAY FROM THE ELECTION FATIGUE YOU GOTTA FATIGUE. AN ELECTION I THINK THAT'S ALSO YEAH DID Y'ALL GET THAT FROM ANOTHER CITY? IS ANYONE ELSE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? MELISSA DOES THAT. MELISSA DOES THAT? OKAY. AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING Y'ALL. Y'ALL PUT IN A LOT OF WORK. I JUST I HAVE CONCERN. AS WE CAN SEE SOME CHANGE THAT'S RECENTLY HAPPENED. SO I JUST HAVE CONCERN, AND IT WORRIES ME. SO WE LOOKED AT PUTTING TERM LIMITS NOT JUST COUNCIL, BUT ALSO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WHICH YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT ONE OF THE THINGS WAS NOT ONLY THE FATIGUE OF THE VOTING YOU'RE HAVING TO DO IT EVERY YEAR, BUT IT WAS ALSO THE COST TO THE CITY, THAT ASPECT THIS WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HEAVIER TOPICS DURING OUR CHARTER REVIEW WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON PROBABLY ONE OF OUR LONGEST MEETINGS WAS THIS SECTION [00:20:09] MUNICIPALITIES DO THAT. WHERE THIS WILL START ON THIS DATE FOR THE MAYOR'S SEAT THIS WILL START ON THIS DATE FOR THESE CHAIR'S. SO YOU CAN PUT DATES IN THERE TO SPECIFY WHEN IT'S EASIER TO START IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SET IN STONE JUST BECAUSE IT PASSES THIS NOVEMBER, YOU CAN PICK THE SEATS TO LINE OUT TO WHERE THEY'LL NOT EMPTY OUT ALL THE SO THERE IS A BIT OF A PLAN? YES YEAH I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY IDEA TO HAVE THAT MANY TURNOVER EITHER IN ONE YEAR YOU WANT SOME CONSISTENCY LEFT BACK ON THE COUNCIL FOR WHO WAS OVER THERE THAT WAY THEY CAN RELAY INFORMATION THAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE SO THESE PROJECTS NEEDS A FEW YEARS TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET IN FRONT OF YOU ALL AND IF THERE'S NO ONE THERE THAT WAS PRIVY TO THAT OR PART OF THAT, THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW THE DIRECTION IN WHICH THEY WERE GOING? AND THEN WE ALSO PUT THE TERM LIMITS TO HAVE WHERE YOU'RE NOT SERVING YOUR FREE TERMS AND THEN YOU'RE OUT MIC]. YOU'RE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT WHO WE HAVE OUT THERE IT'S IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE, IT'S NOT IF IT'S SPENT 20 YEARS IN THEIR CHAIR OR IF THEY'VE SPENT THREE YEARS IN THE CHAIR SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY DETERMINE IT OUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HEAVILY DISCUSSED AS WELL, WHO ARE REPRESENTING, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A NOTE IN THERE ABOUT TAKING OFF WHAT WAS IT HAVING A ONE YEAR OFF, ONE VOTING OFF TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK ON SO IT'S NOT CAPPED? CORRECT? SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO CARRY ON WITH THAT. AND WE CAN'T ADD TO LIKE PARKS BOARD AND STUFF. SO THE ONLY OTHER ONE WOULD BE EDC, CDC. IS THAT LIKE TO. HOW DID Y'ALL LINE THAT UP? SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE OUR TWO-YEAR TERMS RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING IT THREE-YEAR TERMS AND THEN MAKING IT ACROSS YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET YOUR HEAD COMMISSIONER DAIS NEW PERSPECTIVES, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW MORE LONGEVITY ON THE BOARDS COMMISSIONS ALSO AND NOW IS YOU TURNING IT OUT AND THAT WOULD BE FOR ALL BOARDS, NOT JUST PNC, THAT IF WE DO THREE-YEAR TERMS THAT IT WOULD NOT TURN OUT TO BE THREE THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THREE YEARS AND THERE'D BE TWO THREE-YEAR TERMS FOR P AND Z AND EDC? THAT'S CORRECT AND ARE WE STILL DOING APPOINTMENTS ONCE A YEAR LIKE WE ARE? THAT'S CORRECT SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FROM MY END. SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS AND REALLY DIG INTO IT. OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHT OF IT MANY ANGLES. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WITH TIME TERM LIMITS. HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF LIMITED TALENT OR LIMITED WILLINGNESS OF THOSE TALENTED PEOPLE IN A SMALL CITY AS IT GROWS? HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED MAYBE A POPULATION NUMBER TRIGGER ANYTHING LIKE THAT? ARE YOU TALKING MORE OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST PUTTING? POPULATION REALLY PLAYS INTO IT BE UP THERE YEAH. BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO WE'RE ONLY ABOUT 30,000 PEOPLE OUT OF THAT 30,000. ONLY A SELECT NUMBER OF SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO VOLUNTEER OUT OF THAT. ONLY A SMALLER PERCENTAGE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO QUALIFY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LIMIT OUR POOL. [00:25:01] I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME BACK AFTER A YEAR. SO THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF CONTINUITY. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE FOUR YEAR TERMS FOR COUNCIL TWO TERM CONSECUTIVE LIMITS. HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO STAGGER THAT? AND IS ANYBODY ANY SEAT GOING TO GET AN EXTRA YEAR? SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES MIC]. AND AS A FULL TERM LIMIT I THINK MATHEMATICALLY IF YOU LOOKED AT IT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE A FULL TIME IS THAT EVERY SEAT OR JUST A CERTAIN AMOUNT? CERTAIN ONES ARE UP THAT YEAR SO WHENEVER IF IT GOES INTO EFFECT AND IT PASSES, THEN IT WOULD BE PEOPLE WHO WERE UP LET'S SAY IN 2026 DEFINITELY. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO PUT A CAP ON OR WHEN CERTAIN THINGS START OR TAKE EFFECT BASED ON THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF ANNA WE HAVE TO TRUST THAT OUR VOTERS, THAT OUR PATRONS ARE GOING TO GET OUT THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR WHAT THEY THINK IS RIGHT THEY ARE THE VOICE OF ANNA IF WE HAVE 50,000 PEOPLE OR WE HAVE 30,000 PEOPLE SO I ACTUALLY HAD SOMEONE MENTIONED AN INTERESTING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE POINT OF VIEW. SO I'LL THROW THIS AT YOU. SO WOULDN'T YOU SAY WITH TERM LIMITS, YOU'RE USURPING THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS ULTIMATELY. BECAUSE IF THEY WANT MORE THAN ONE TERM, TWO TERM, THREE TERMS, DO WE NOT TAKE THAT TO THE VOTER? SO BECAUSE I'VE HAD THIS QUESTION ASKED ME A COUPLE OF TIMES, ARE WE NOT USURPING THE POWER OF THE VOTERS OR SUBBING IN FOR THEM INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM THE RESPONSIBILITY AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO ACT ON IT? JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS IS GOING TO GO BEFORE THE VOTERS. THAT'S CORRECT YEAH. IF YOU WANTED THEM IN THERE FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS AND VOTE EVERY FOUR YEARS YEAH. IT'S JUST BECAUSE I THINK I HAD PROBABLY A GOOD 4 OR 5 EMAILS OF PEOPLE SAYING SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. WELL, YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T THE PEOPLE MAKE THE DECISIONS? I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU. ACTUALLY, I THINK I'M IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S JUST I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE'S CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED. WHAT DECISIONS ARE THEY WANTING TO MAKE? I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, I DO WANT SOME TYPE OF TERM LIMITS. I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. IT GETS NEW, FRESH IDEAS IN BUT I THINK THEIR MAJOR CONCERN WAS YOUR IF PEOPLE WANT SOMEONE IN THERE FOR MULTIPLE TERMS, THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE SAY. AND IF PEOPLE WANT SOMEONE IN FOR LESS THAN THOSE TERMS, THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT SAYING, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REACH THAT THRESHOLD, PULL THEM OFF IN ONE TERM, WHATEVER IT IS. SO I THINK THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE POSITION WAS, YOU KNOW, IS THIS A COP OUT FOR VOTERS. AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS, BUT I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THAT. THEY CAN STILL NOT THEY CAN STILL PULL THEM OUT AFTER ONE TERM. THEY JUST GOTTA FIND SOMEONE TO BEAT THEM, TO REPLACE THEM. OH, YEAH. I'M ASKING VERY OBVIOUS QUESTIONS, BUT JUST. YEAH ABOUT THE TALENT. I MEAN, THAT'S UP TO US, RIGHT? WE BEFORE WE COULDN'T FIND ANYONE TO BE ON BOARDS. AND THAT'S WHY WE STARTED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ACADEMY. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT JUST HAVING THAT ALONE IS HELPED US AND BUILD OUR BOARDS THERE A LOT STRONGER. AND TO I MEAN HALF OF YOU GUYS NOT ME. I HAVEN'T BEEN IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ACADEMY, BUT IT'S HELPED US. IT'S HELPED THIS CITY HAS HELPED TO TALENT. SO I THINK THE TALENT POOL IS COMING. THERE'S MORE PEOPLE MOVING IN AND THEN WE JUST GOTTA WE, THE CITY. THE COUNCIL HAS TO GET THESE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND GET THEM INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR COUNCIL OR BEING ON A BOARD. SO, I MEAN, I'M ALL ABOUT TERM LIMITS SO I CAN. SO SOMEONE ELSE CAN TELL ME TO LEAVE SO [LAUGHTER]. WELL, LATER THIS EVENING WE'LL BE DISCUSSING MORE OF THE TALENT THAT HAS BEEN HERE, BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN QUITE A JOY LATELY, IN RECENT YEARS THAT WE HAVE MORE TALENT SHOWING UP THAN WE HAVE SEATS. SO BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS. BY THE WAY THANKS. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONING ON THIS. THAT ONE'S A HOT TOPIC, AND I'VE HEARD TERM LIMITS. GOOD THING I'VE HEARD TERM LIMITS. BAD THING FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF ANNA. I'VE ALSO WHAT MANY WAS TALKING ABOUT. I'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ONE PERSON IN THIS ROOM THAT THERE'S NOT [00:30:07] 30,000 PEOPLE THAT CAN REACH THEM. IT'S A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY OF ANNA VERSUS WHAT HAPPENS IN WASHINGTON D.C OR EVEN AT THE AUSTIN. SO IF SOMEBODY FEELS THEIR VOICE IS NOT BEING HEARD, THEY NEED TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL US OR REACH OUT TO THE SECRETARY AND SCHEDULE A MEETING, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HEARD A SINGLE PERSON UP HERE EVER SAY EVER. LIKE IN YEARS. SAY, I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO SOMEONE SO. SO A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE ON HERE STREAMLINING THE PROCEDURES FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THAT ONE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE THERE'S ESPECIALLY WITH OUR ADVISORY BOARDS STAFF LED, BOARD LED. WHO DOES THE SECRETARY WHO SCHEDULES THE MEETINGS? THIS ONE NEEDS TO BE ATTENDED TO. THE PARKS BOARD HAS SOME STATEMENTS IN IT THAT ARE VERY CONFUSING AND IN SOME CASES CONTRADICTORY TO LAW. AND SO BEING ABLE TO IMPROVE OUR CHARTERS, READABILITY IN THOSE AREAS, AS WELL AS DEFINING BY WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT THE CURRENT GOVERNANCE IS HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS OR FEDERALLY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE ALL THAT STUFF IS IN ALIGNMENT. WE DID SOMETHING REAL SIMILAR WITH ALL OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCES, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE A BEAUTIFUL DOCUMENT. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING SIMILAR. IF ANYONE'S EVER TRIED TO READ OUR CHARTER, I ACTUALLY ONLY KNOW OF ONE PERSON IN THIS ROOM WHO'S READ EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE OF THAT CHARTER AND MEMORIZED IT. THAT'S NOT ON STAFF OR SITTING UP ON THE COUNCIL. IT DOES NEED SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN CLARITY OF LANGUAGE. SO THAT MAY BE A COMMISSION THAT WE NEED TO SET UP. THAT'S GOOD STUFF. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT. I ALSO APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU COMING UP TO THE MICROPHONE. I NEED TO AND I'M SURE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO FIND OUT. OUR EDC IS A SEPARATE CORPORATION. WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH AS TO HOW THAT GOVERNANCE OCCURS, WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AS A COUNCIL AS WELL AS A CITY ABOUT HOW THAT BOARD IS SET UP, GOOD JOB. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO WHEN YOU MEAN ENHANCING EFFORTS TO OPEN ACCESS AND TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT, WHAT DID YOU GUYS HAVE IN MIND? BECAUSE I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT. IT'S THE ONE TWO THIRD BULLET DOWN. UNDER, IN PARTICULAR THE CHARTER REVENUE OR CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION FOCUSED THEIR EFFORTS. THANK YOU RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, WHAT I'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES DO IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WAY LIKE, I'LL GIVE YOU A VERY BASIC ONE TEXT MESSAGE SERVICE AS SOON AS THERE'S COUNCIL, AS SOON AS THERE'S VOTES THAT GO OUT, IT SENDS A TEXT MESSAGE AS TO WHAT THE VOTES RESULTS WERE. WHAT WERE THE AGENDA ITEMS, HERE'S A LINK. LIVE STREAM IS A WAY FOR US TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE STREAM, GET THAT COMMUNICATION OUT. ALSO TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITES. I'LL PAUSE THERE IN CASE, YOU'RE READY TO GO? OKAY. SO LIKE, SOCIAL MEDIA SITES YOU KNOW, THE CITY WEBSITE. WE ALSO WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY. AND I'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN A WORK SESSION, WE CAN MAYBE LOOK AT HOW CAN WE GET MORE INPUT FROM PEOPLE WITHOUT THEM ACTUALLY BEING HERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COMMITMENTS. THEIR FAMILIES, THEY ALWAYS CAN'T SHOW UP IN THE EVENING. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET QUESTIONS OR MAYBE PRE-APPROVED ONES, OR HOWEVER WE WANT TO WORK THAT OUT TO WHERE THEY DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO SHOW UP. SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY FOR US AND THEN JUST ENHANCING THE WEBSITE, POSSIBLY. RIGHT? LIKE HAVING TO POST IN THE NEWSPAPER I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER HAD TO DO THAT OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU DATE, AND THEY CHARGE BY THE LETTER. SO NOT ONLY FROM KIND OF GETTING OUT OF THE STONE AGE BUT KIND OF PUSHING IT TO HAVE OUR CHARTER WRITTEN TO WHERE THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT SO WE ASK TO HAVE THAT REMOVED AND MAKE IT ONLINE, MAKE IT WEB BASED, PERFECT. WEBSITE, ETC [00:35:02] THAT BRINGS ITS OWN SET OF CHALLENGES THOUGH, BECAUSE THERE'S ARE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT READ THE NEWSPAPER THAT THAT'S HOW THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT HAVING TO POST IT IN THE PAPER YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS TO CONSIDER SO IT'S NOT JUST BRINGING US UP TO SPEED, BUT THERE'S ALSO A FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT YEAH, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS REALLY LOOKING INTO THAT. THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS ENHANCING REGULATIONS AND ABSENTEEISM AS RELATES TO BOARDS AND COMMISSION. WHAT DO YOU GUYS HAVE IN MIND? SO THIS WAS MY FAVORITE ONE [LAUGHTER] BEING CHAIR I'M ALL EARS. YEAH WHERE QUORUM BEING ESTABLISHED WAS POTENTIALLY AT RISK WHERE WE WERE HAVING TO CALL AND WE WERE HAVING TO EMAIL COMMISSIONERS AND FOLLOW UP SAME DAY BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH OF THEM WERE GOING TO BE IN ATTENDANCE THIS IS AN ISSUE, IT IS A BIG ISSUE YOU KNOW, I MIGHT HAVE A BIASED OPINION, BUT DON'T VOLUNTEER FOR SOMETHING AND GO UP TO INTERVIEW TO GET ELECTED IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN ONE OF THE BIGGER ISSUES I HAVE WITH IT TOO IS THE ABSENTEES WHAT'S EXCUSABLE? IT'S NOT EXCUSABLE WHO'S TAKING ROLL CALL? SO WHAT IS IT FEASIBLE? BUT THEN WE GOT INTO HOW FAR IN THE WE DIDN'T WANT TO AND THEN YOU'RE GIVING THEM OPPORTUNITIES OR EXCUSES FOR WHAT TO SAY TO BE ABLE TO BE EXCUSED AND UNEXCUSED SO THAT'S WHERE WE MADE THE SUGGESTION THAT IT JUST BE IF YOU MISS THREE MEETINGS, YOU'RE DONE I THINK THAT'S VERY REASONABLE. EXCUSABLE, INEXCUSABLE. YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THERE'LL BE CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, DEATH IN THE FAMILY, MEDICAL EMERGENCIES THERE'S ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS BUT THAT MAKES IT WAY MORE OPEN ENDED TO MAKE IT EASIER TO REMOVE COMMISSIONERS THAT DON'T WANT TO BE THERE YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE JUST STEP DOWN OR ANYTHING YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE THE TIME THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BE ABLE TO PUT IN IT TRUE TIME IS GOING TO BE YOU KNOW? WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TALENT THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN. YOU KNOW? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. WE DON'T NEED PLACEHOLDERS. YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, I'M ASSUMING WITH EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS COUNCIL THAT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE. YOU TAKE A LOT OF BURDEN FROM, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS ONTO YOU. SO WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY. IT GOES A LONG WAY. AND THEN THE FINAL SESSION I HAVE IS RECEIVING AND DISCUSSING COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS MADE BY NEIGHBORS. WHAT DID YOU GUYS HAVE IN MIND FOR THAT? I WOULD TELL YOU THAT MOST BOYS DON'T GET A LOT OF MAJOR QUESTIONS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ONE PERSON IN THE MEETING BESIDES STAFF AT ANY TIME HOW DO YOU WANT GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTION? VERY GOOD POINT. THAT'S A CONCERN WE ALWAYS HAVE DEFINITELY. GUYS. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE ONE MORE. I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT. THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST PROVISIONS INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATE LAW. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ONE. WELL, I KNOW IT IS. WE'VE HAD ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH OUR BOARDS IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF ANNA AS A ENTITY IS ONE OF THE TWO LARGEST ENTITIES WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES, THE OTHER BEING THE ISD. AND SO WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE WHO, DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF ANNA THAT IF THEY SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND IF I SAID NAMES, MANY OF THEM ARE THE VERY WELL RESPECTED PEOPLE. THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP THEIR INCOME HERE IN THE CITY OF ANNA. [00:40:01] NOW, GRANTED, IT SHOULD ONLY BE A PORTION AND HOPEFULLY NOT THE DOMINANT PORTION OF THEIR INCOME. BUT WE HAD ONE OFFICER RECENTLY THAT WE HAD TO INFORM THAT PERSON THAT HER THRIVING BUSINESS COULD NO LONGER OPERATE BECAUSE SHE ACCEPTED A VOLUNTEER POSITION, WHICH ALL OF THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY COUNCIL ARE 100% VOLUNTEER. 100%. THERE'S NO FINANCIAL BENEFIT WHATSOEVER TO BE ON ANY OF OUR BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS OR THIS COUNCIL OF ANY KIND. I'M REAL HAPPY ON THAT ONE BECAUSE I HATE IT WHENEVER I SEE IT ON FACEBOOK. IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. IF SOMEONE IS PROFITEERING OFF OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES, THEY WILL LOOK VERY UGLY AND ORANGE. BOTTOM LINE. WITH THAT SAID, THOSE SAME INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO PAY THEIR WATER BILL, THEIR POWER BILL, THEIR LABOR FORCE IF THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES. AND IN THE MEANTIME, THE CITY OF ANNA, IF THAT'S THE ONLY VENDOR HAS TO NOW SEND THAT MONEY OUT OF THE CITY OF ANNA EVEN THOUGH THAT INDIVIDUAL IS STILL TAXED. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT ARE PERCOLATING AROUND THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND SOME OF THE STUFF THE STATE LAW SAID. SO CLARK, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO YOU, BUT THE PERCENTAGE THAT IS 25%, THEY HAVE TO MAKE OVER 25% BECAUSE THERE IS 20 THERE'S A PERCENTAGE THAT THAT'S BASED ON. CORRECT? THERE'S NOT A PERCENTAGE. OKAY. THE AMENDMENT WOULD JUST BRING THE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST PROVISION TO MATCH STATE LAW BECAUSE IT'S CHANGED. AND THIS CHARTER IS OLD. SO IT WOULD REQUIRE DISCLOSURES OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS BY AFFIDAVIT. IT WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON CERTAIN MEASURES THAT THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN BUT IT WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW INSTEAD OF IN CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW CLARK IN THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY SO. DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OR HAS THERE BEEN A NUMBER EVER PRESENTED WHAT SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL INTEREST MEANS TO THE CITY OF ANNA? IT'S IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS INTERVIEW, IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST OF, I THINK IT'S 15% OR MORE OF THE VOTING STOCK, THE $15,000 VALUE OF THE COMPANY ITSELF OR YOU'VE DERIVED AT LEAST 2500 IN INCOME OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, 12 MONTH LOOKBACK PERIOD BUT THAT GIVES YOU A FLAVOR OF WHAT WOULD TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENT TO FILE AN AFFIDAVIT AND ABSTAIN FROM VOTING AND THEN ON THE IT'S WORKING, THEN ON THE SAY X, Y, Z WIDGET OR SERVICE IS BEING SOLD TO THE CITY OF ANNA BY OFFICER APPOINTED OR ELECTED. IS THERE A PROCESS THAT THEY SHOW THAT REVEALS THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENT TO THE CITY OF ANNA, OR TO THE GOVERNING BODY AS TO WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT SALE OR SERVICE IS GOING TO AFFECT THEIR BOTTOM LINE FOR THAT YEAR? NO, THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT TO PREDICT OR PROJECT WHAT INCOME MAY BE. THERE IS A DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT THAT IS DONE THROUGH THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A BUSINESS INTEREST WITH THE CITY OR AS A VENDOR WITH THE CITY. YOU HAVE TO FILE SEPARATE AFFIDAVITS OKAY. SO UNDER STATE LAW, THE REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITIONS HAVE A LOT MORE TO DO WITH DISCLOSURE THAN THEY DO WITH EXCLUDING SOMEONE FROM EXERCISING THEIR BUSINESS RIGHTS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR ADDRESSING THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S A STICKY POINT. IT'S A STICKY POINT FOR ME I'LL TELL YOU WHY. I DON'T MIND BEING TRANSPARENT. I ACQUIRED A COMPANY EARLIER THIS YEAR. ONE OF THE VENDORS OR ONE OF THE CUSTOMERS THAT THEY HAD IS THE CITY OF ANNA ENDED UP WRITING A CHECK BACK TO THE CITY OF ANNA TO BE SQUARE WITH OUR CURRENT SET OF [00:45:08] ORDINANCES. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE ALSO HAPPENED? I STILL WROTE CHECKS FOR THE LABOR THAT WORKED FOR US, THAT WORK AND LIVE HERE, SPEND THEIR MONEY HERE. AND SO IT THIS IS A REALLY DICEY ONE. IT'S PERSONAL TO ME, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN IT AFFECT OTHERS AND I'VE SEEN IT AFFECT BOARD MEMBERS. I'VE ALSO SEEN IT AFFECT THE TALENT THAT COULD SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AT A PENALTY. SO I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS MORE AND GET TO GET TO A BETTER PLACE. BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS, IF I DON'T PAY MY WATER BILL TO THE CITY OF ANNA, MY WATER GETS CUT OFF [LAUGHTER] WHILE VOLUNTEERING. THAT GOES THE SAME FOR ANYBODY ELSE. AND IF THAT SELL WAS NOT GRANTED, THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED. BUT AT THAT CELL WHERE SOMEBODY'S VOLUNTEERING, THAT'S ALL THEY NEEDED. WAS THAT ONE CELL TO PAY THEIR WATER BILL. THEY JUST GOT CLIPPED, AND THEN THEY GOT ULTIMATELY FINED FOR TAKING CARE OF THAT. SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE REVIEWING THIS STUFF, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, WE DON'T WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS THAT WANT TO HELP THE CITY ALONG. AND ALL OF THAT MONEY HAS TO GO OUT OF THIS CITY. THAT'S ALL I GOT. I GOT ONE MORE QUICK THING. IS THERE ANY. I'M ASKING YOU TWO AND I'M ASKING ANYONE HERE ON THE BOARD. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO BRING FORWARD AND COULDN'T GET IT THROUGH THE BOARD, OR KIND OF RAN OUT OF TIME? WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT Y'ALL FELT THAT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE AT THE COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT TO PUT ON THIS ELECTION FOR OUR CHARTER REVIEW? I'LL SPEAK TO ONE COMMISSIONER, BUT I ALSO HAD THE SAME COMING FROM MY BOARD BEING CHAIR WAS PROFESSIONALISM YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO REMOVE PEOPLE BASED ON BEING A PROFESSIONAL ON DAIS AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING A ONE TIME I'M DONE, MULTIPLE TIMES THIS GOES TO DRESS CODE TOO, YOU KNOW? ADDRESSING YOU KNOW, HOW THEY WHAT THEY WEAR YOU KNOW WHAT ACTIONS THAT THEY'RE DOING BEHIND THE DAIS YOU KNOW, DIPPING OR VAPING OR SOMETHING BEHIND THE DAIS WHEN IT'S THIS TIME I KNOW THAT SOUNDS EXTREME, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME EXTREME EXAMPLES, SO YOU UNDERSTAND REALLY ADDRESSED IN ANY KIND OF WAY YOU KNOW, WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. WELL, IT AFFECTS THEIR RIGHTS, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH INTO THEIR PERSONAL RIGHTS BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE WHAT IS WRONG WITH US SAYING BUSINESS CASUAL? WE'RE ON A DAIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN HOUR OR TWO YOU CAN'T REFRAIN FROM DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP HERE AND MAKE A SCENE OR A SHOW FOR THE WRONG REASONS, THEN YOU SHOULD BE TALKED TO AND THEN POTENTIALLY REMOVED AND I KNOW THAT WE ALL SERVE ON THE HANDS OF THE CITY COUNCIL BUT WHERE'S THAT SET UP IN PLACE? WHERE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ARE NOT HAVING TO BEG AND PLEAD TO GET THEM REMOVED I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE PUT IN PLACE, FOR I KNOW IT SEEMS SMALL AND PETTY, BUT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT I APPRECIATE THAT THOUGHT THAT GOES A LONG WAY. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN TOTEN I THINK THAT GOES A LONG WAY. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON MY MIND AS WELL. WE'RE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY, SEEING WHAT THE BOARD SHOULD BE, SOME TYPE OF STANDARD, WHAT WE FIGURE OUT, WE CAN DISCUSS. BUT I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, BRUCE? YOU GOT SOMETHING. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY THAT ARE SERVING THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY GET ELECTED TO A BUILDING AND HOW MANY OF THEM YOU LOSE IN THAT TALENT IN THE CITY I CAN'T BE PART OF THIS, AND I'M JUST SAYING I'M AWESOME, BUT I JUST CAN'T SAY THEY'RE THERE I'M IN THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT BALANCE THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER THIS IS WHAT YOU ADDRESSES HERE SHE ADDRESSED ABOUT HOW YOU ACT AT A MEETING AND IT'S A SNOWBALL EFFECT BECAUSE IT FRUSTRATES LEADERS AND IT ALSO FRUSTRATES THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD WHEN YOU CAN'T BE DONE BECAUSE OF ONE PERSON SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT QUICKLY [00:50:05] AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED QUICKLY AND NOT GET INTO IT SO THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP THAT WAS PROBABLY MY BIGGEST PAIN POINT. AND FRUSTRATION THAT I AM CHAIR OF ONE OF THE COMMITTEES, AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL SCENARIOS WHERE ONE OF OUR MEMBERS WAS COMMITTEE MEMBERS WAS DISRUPTIVE ARGUMENTATIVE RUDE TO STAFF AND TO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND IN ADDITION, STORMED OUT OF THE MEETINGS MORE THAN ONCE, WHICH LEFT US IN A SITUATION WHERE WE COULDN'T MEET QUORUM AND I DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY AS CHAIR TO HAVE ANY DISCIPLINARY ACTION AND IT WAS DISRUPTIVE MORE THAN ONCE. AND SO I BROUGHT THIS UP AS A HUGE PAIN POINT, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR GOVERNING RULES THAT SAID THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE SOME CHANGES OR HAVE ANY KIND OF DISCIPLINARY OR OTHER ACTIONS THAT CAN REMEDY THAT SITUATION QUICKLY YES I THINK YOU DO. YEAH. I APPRECIATE WE HAVE TO COME WITH YOUR BOARD. IT'S WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO CALL IT? BUT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE PNC. BUT WE'LL HAVE TO. WE CAN. WE'LL HAVE ADVISORY. BUT EVEN BOTH OF THEIR BOARDS, BECAUSE THERE ARE ALL THREE OF YOU GUYS SERVE AS OUR CHAIRS OF EACH OF THREE DIFFERENT BOARDS. SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO. AND ANOTHER ONE, PARKS, YOU KNOW, HAVING ALL FOUR OF YOU ON THIS WAS IMPORTANT. AND SO IF THAT'S I PERSONALLY WILL SIT DOWN WITH I'M ASSUMING THE KIND OF THE KICKBACK MIGHT HAVE CAME FROM A CERTAIN OR CITY ATTORNEY. SO MAYBE HIM AND I COULD MEET, AND WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE SOME THINGS OUT, SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN. BUT ALSO THE BEHAVIOR, THE THAT ALSO THAT COMES INTO PLAY WHEN WE'RE INTERVIEWING EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE. BECAUSE ONE OF MY BIG QUESTIONS, WHAT IS EVERY TIME I THINK I'VE INTERVIEWED ALL THREE OF YOU GUYS WAS, CAN YOU SHOW UP? CAN YOU KNOW, ONE MEETING A MONTH, WE GAVE YOU THE TIME OF THE DAY. AND WE GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY SO. AND THEN NOW MAYBE WE CHANGE THE WAY WE INTERVIEW YOU. CAN YOU? WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO BE PROFESSIONAL TO BEHAVE. YOU KNOW SO AND THERE'S GOING TO BE CONSEQUENCES IF YOU DON'T. BECAUSE I WEAR A HAT 24 OVER SEVEN AND I COMB MY HAIR ONE TUESDAY SO THEY CAN BEHAVE ON WHICHEVER NIGHT. THEY ALL HAVE YARD MEETINGS. SO WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. AND I WANTED TO ASK YOU GUYS THAT. AND I APPRECIATE ALL THREE OF YOU FOR SPEAKING UP ON THAT. AND BRUCE, SAME THING FOR YOUR CONCERN AS WELL. I KNOW STAN WILL PROBABLY BE LOOKING INTO THAT, BUT THANK YOU GUYS. ONE MORE THING. I'M SORRY FOR YOUR QUESTIONS SINCE YOUR LAST POINT [LAUGHTER] I GOTTA PUT ONE MORE INTO. I AM FULL OF QUESTIONS AND I AM OVERFLOWING. SO TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN I THINK IT WOULD BE. I MEAN, WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WITH CLARK HOW THAT WOULD LOOK. BUT FROM A CORPORATE POINT OF VIEW, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF DELEGATING THE POWER TO THE DECISION MAKERS, ESPECIALLY THE BOARD. WE ENTRUSTED THEM TO RUN THE BOARD. MAYBE THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO MOVE THAT. WHAT ABOUT MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE BOARD? HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF THAT? WE DID WE SPOKE ON THAT HEAVILY HOW DID THAT GO? I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACADEMY BEING BARE MINIMUM LIKE, YOU AT LEAST HAVE TO DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WE'D LOVE SOMEONE THAT HAS GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE THAT KNOWS THE INTERNAL WORKINGS OF HOW A CITY AND MUNICIPALITY WORKS TO GET THAT KIND OF. BUT IT'S ALSO GOOD TO HAVE THE OPPOSITE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ALL THAT THAT'S NOT BLINDSIDED OR HAS BLINDERS ON BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE BOUNDARIES OF THE RULES AND THE LAW AND GOVERNMENT YOU KNOW, YOU PLAY OFF OF EACH OTHER I ALWAYS WANT TO BUILD A TEAM AROUND ME, OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WAY SMARTER THAN ME AND STRONGER THAN ME IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS, BUT I'M NOT I WOULD WANT SOMEONE WHO SAID, I'M SORRY. YEAH, KEVIN DIDN'T LOOK EXCITED. I'M MESSING WITH YOU. BUT YEAH, MAYBE THERE'S AT LEAST, LIKE, A PREFERRED MAYBE THERE'S, LIKE YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A CANDIDATE OF POOLS, MAYBE THERE'S SOME TYPE OF PREFERENCES THAT IF SOMEONE HITS THESE, THEY MAYBE GET MOVED UP TO THE TOP, FOR EXAMPLE YOU GUYS COULD FIGURE THAT OUT FOOD FOR THOUGHT. BUT LIKE, FOR EDC, YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF BUSINESS EXPERIENCE. I MEAN SOME LEVEL HOW THE TO QUANTIFY THAT. I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FIGURE ANYTHING OUT. THEY'RE DONE. NO, NO FOR SURE. BUT I'M JUST SAYING LIKE AT SOME POINT IN LIKE FOR US, WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE [00:55:08] YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MAKE THAT THRESHOLD FOR SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PARKS, YOU KNOW. DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S SPECIALIZED IN PARKS ON A DIFFERENT BOARD? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY QUESTIONS FOR US TO FIGURE OUT. THANK YOU I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS IN ANY BOARD IS TWOFOLD THEY DON'T FEEL THEY'RE SERVING A PURPOSE EXCEPT FOR BEING A YES PERSON BUT IT'S NOT A GREAT THING EITHER. YOU WANT THE DIRECTIVE FROM THE STAFF, BUT YOU WANT THAT INPUT ANY QUESTION, ANY DISCUSSION OF ANYTHING YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS UNDERSTANDING AND GETTING THE QUESTIONS VOTE YES OR NO AND THAT'S NOT ALSO HOW YOU BUILD FUTURE LEADERS FOR THAT BOARD OR ANOTHER BOARD SO I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST THING. I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE ON BOARDS I THINK THEY JUST GOT. WHY DO I WASTE AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF A WEEK WHEN ALL I'M DOING IS YEAH, SURE, NO YEAH IF WE DO BETTER WITH THAT, I THINK WE'LL DO BETTER WITH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT GETTING BETTER LEADERS AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE FUTURE OF ANNA MY BOARD IS TO MAKE IT TOUGH ON YOU GUYS, TO CHALLENGE YOU GUYS TO DO BETTER SO WE CAN DO BETTER, AND THEN THE COMMUNITY DOES BETTER SINCE I TOOK OVER AS CHAIR ON PLANNING AND ZONING, I'VE MADE IT A GOAL EVERY MEETING TO HEAR EVERY COMMISSIONER SPEAK I WILL CALL THEM OUT ONE BY ONE TO GET THEIR OPINION ON SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY IF THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT OR THEY DIDN'T ASK A QUESTION AT ALL DON'T LIKE SILENCE. SILENCE, TO ME IS UNDER THE SAME BOAT THAT YOU SAID, WHERE THEY'RE JUST CLICKING A BOAT BUTTON AND BEING DONE WITH IT I MEAN, WE LOST A LITTLE BIT OF ASPECT OF THAT WHEN WE WENT TO ELECTRONIC VOTING ON PLANNING AND ZONING, BECAUSE THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF HAVING TO HAVE A VOICE AND SAY YOUR VOTE OUT LOUD IS TAKEN AWAY SO IT'S SILENCING SOME OF THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT THEY THINK ARE STUPID OR IRRELEVANT. I'D RATHER HEAR THEIR VOICE THAN TO SEE THEM JUST SIT THERE AND NOT HAVE AN OPINION SO I TRY TO DO THAT, AND THAT'S PART OF BRUCE AND I BEING CHAIR AND BEING A LEADER. YOU KNOW, WE SET THE EXAMPLE AND WE SET THE BAR HERE AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO FOLLOW BEHIND US ONE THING I WANT TO ADD IS SHE HAD MENTIONED THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED WALKING OUT ON A MEETING. SO IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT BEING AN ABSENTEE, BECAUSE IF YOU LEAVE AND YOU DON'T COME BACK, SHOULD THAT BE COUNTED THAT THEY WERE HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, OR SHOULD IT BE COUNTED AS AN ABSENCE? SO FOOD FOR THOUGHT. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED AS WELL, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE NEW ABSENTEES THAT WE HAD SET IN PLACE FOR THE THREE MAYBE THEY'D BE LESS INCLINED TO JUST GET UP AND WALK OUT AND WALK OUT I LOVE BASEBALL I BELIEVE IN THREE STRIKES IF YOU WALK OUT OF THE MEETING, YOU'RE DONE YOU'RE STILL HERE THAT'S MY BALL ALL RIGHT THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP. THANK YOU. YEAH. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ACT ON THIS AT ALL. DO WE? JUST ACCEPT THE REPORT? SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES, ABSOLUTELY. IF WE APPROVE THIS, WE HAVE NO MORE DISCUSSION OR IF THAT'S JUST? NO, THAT'S JUST ACCEPTING REPORT. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. NOW WE HAVE TO GO TO WORK. OKAY THANK YOU. YEAH. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU ALL. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM 6.B. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT ON AN ORDINANCE REGARDING THE REZONING AND SPECIFIC USE PERMIT OF 229 EAST SEVENTH STREET. DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, MS. STEPHANIE SCOTT-SIMS. GOOD EVENING THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 229 EAST SEVENTH STREET FROM SF ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT. A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO PROPOSE A FOUR UNIT, TWO STORY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. [01:00:07] AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD INCLUDE FOUR UNITS, EACH WITH A PRIVATE GARAGE ACCESS FROM ACCESSIBLE FROM THE STREET THEY WOULD INCLUDE A GUEST PARKING AREA AS WELL, AND THE PARKING THAT IS SHOWN HERE DOES MEET THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT FOR PARKING. THE ZONING IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS URBAN LIVING, WHICH IS PROVIDES FOR HIGH DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SUPPORT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES IN A WALKABLE AREA. THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT AS SHOWN IN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THE AREA THAT IS IN REFERENCE IS INDICATED BY THE RED X THIS IS A PHOTO OF AN INSPIRATION PHOTO OF WHAT THE OUTSIDE BUILDING MATERIALS COULD LOOK LIKE, OR THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT COULD LOOK LIKE THE REQUEST FOR, AGAIN, THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM SF ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THE REQUEST FOR THE SUP TO ALLOW A MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ALSO CONFORMS WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF URBAN LIVING, ACCORDING TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A TRANSITION FROM THE DOWNTOWN CORE TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY ADAPTIVE REUSE AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT OF SMALL LOTS IN THIS AREA PROMOTES OPPORTUNITIES FOR REINVESTMENT IN OLDER AREAS OF TOWN AND ARE APPROPRIATE TRANSITIONAL USES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FURTHER, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR A WIDE RANGE OF URBAN HOUSING PRODUCTS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE IN THE DOWNTOWN AND ALSO PROMOTES REINVESTMENT IN THE AREA AS THEY PROVIDE THE CRITICAL RESIDENTIAL BASE NEED IT TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED ARE SOON TO BE LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA JULY 7TH MEETING WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL DEVELOP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN AS SHOWN HERE. AND THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD INCLUDE A MAXIMUM OF FOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND THAT EACH UNIT MUST HAVE AN ATTACHED GARAGE PLUS 0.25 PER UNIT PARKING SPACES PER UNIT FOR VISITOR PARKING, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:13 P.M. I DO HAVE SOME SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS. FIRST UP MR. RYAN LONG DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT, BUT IS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. NEXT UP TO SPEAK, I WILL ASK FOR NANCY HAZEL. IF I CAN, I'D LIKE TO READ WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE. BY ALL MEANS. MY NAME IS NANCY HAZEL, AND I OWN THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET AT 307 EAST SEVENTH. IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPERTY OF MR. [01:05:01] AHMED. NO, THAT'S NOT HIS NAME, ZIHAN HAMID, I BELIEVE, IS THE NAME ON THE APPLICATION WHO'S SEEKING TO BUILD THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. FIRST, I WANT TO SINCERELY THANK MR. JOHNSON IN THE ZONING OFFICE, WHO WAS VERY HELPFUL IN HELPING RETRACE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED. WHAT IT REALLY BRINGS ME HERE TONIGHT IS MY LOVE FOR ANNA. ANNA IS MORE THAN JUST A DOT ON THE MAP. IT'S A COMMUNITY. A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS. KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKES IN THE STREET, AND WHERE YOU CAN STILL HEAR CHICKENS IN THE MORNING AND DOGS BARKING IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. IT'S A PLACE WE RISK TRADING OUR TREE LINED STREETS AND QUAINT HOMES FOR TRAFFIC LIGHTS, NOISE, FENCES AND CONGESTION. AND ONCE THE CHANGE BEGINS, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN IT BACK. HIS PROPOSAL, I BELIEVE, IS STILL HIS PROPERTY PURCHASE I BELIEVE IT'S STILL IN ESCROW, ACCORDING TO THE REAL ESTATE LADY I MIGHT SAY THAT I LEFT CALIFORNIA 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THE CRAZY EXPANSION THAT WAS GOING ON THERE, AND I FOUND A HOME IN TEXAS AND NAMED IF WE ALLOW REZONING FROM THAT ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S REALLY NO INDUSTRY, A HISTORIC CHURCH PLAYGROUND, THE HISTORIC RAILROAD STATION CERTAINLY NOTHING THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL LIKE I'M DOWNTOWN. THERE'S NOTHING COMMERCIAL REALLY THERE. WE'VE LOST OUR WHOLE SOUL IN THAT PART OF THE CITY, WHICH IS HISTORIC WITH THOSE HOMES THAT ARE THERE SO I REALLY AM IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT UP, KIM CHRISTENSEN. KIMBERLY CHRISTENSEN, 219 EAST WHITE STREET HERE IN ANNA I'M JUST I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE LOCATION AND WHAT OUR FUTURE DESIGN IS FOR DOWN HERE THIS IS THE HEART OF ANNA AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY LOOK AT IT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE OUTLINE YET MIC]. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD JUST RUIN WHAT WE'VE GOT PLANNED OR WHAT I HOPE IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA SO I JUST WANTED TO COME OUT AS A REALTOR OR AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN HERE SINCE 1975 AND LIVE IN THE HEART OF THE SALEM, AND I'D SAY, PLEASE THINK HARD BEFORE YOU APPROVE THIS THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE? LAST CALL. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:18 P.M. COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, I GOT A COUPLE HERE. IS THE APPLICANT HERE, BY ANY CHANCE, DO YOU MIND COMING UP TO THE FRONT? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND. AND THE ADDRESS IS 1001 EAST HAVEN PARKWAY, CARROLLTON, TEXAS, 75010 PERFECT. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THIS BENEFITS THE PEOPLE OF ANNA. IT BENEFITS ANNA IN AND THE PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO REALIZE YOUR MASTER PLAN THIS IS NOW, RIGHT NOW YOUR VISION FOR THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN CORE THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE DENSE THAN WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING WE WANT THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THIS IS A PERFECT AREA FOR THAT TRANSITION IT'S A GENTLE TRANSITION IF WE DO IT, IF WE HAVE IT REZONED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE HEIGHTS AND THE HEIGHTS OF THE SINGLE FAMILY. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COMMERCIAL WE'RE NOT TRYING TO WE'RE JUST IT'S JUST A GENTLE TRANSITION FROM ITS DOWNTOWN, DENSE CORE TO A MORE AS WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE OR, [01:10:05] YOU KNOW, A NEIGHBORHOOD FILLED NEIGHBORHOOD AREA SO CAN YOU STILL SUM UP WHAT THE BENEFIT IS FOR ANNA? I THINK AS WELL, THE BENEFITS ARE, ASIDE FROM ALIGNING WITH THE MASTER PLAN, YOUR VISION IS THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S VISION FOR GROWTH, WILL GENERATE INTEREST, WILL ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS AND INVESTORS TO FOLLOW SUIT, WILL GENERATE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES, REVITALIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BOOST TAX REVENUE. I THINK MORE RESIDENTS RESULT IN MORE DEMAND FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS. AND HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN THIS? FOUR AND JUST WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT SO THAT IT'S MORE TOWNHOME FEEL LIKE A MULTI. IF NOT, WE'RE USING THE WORD MULTI-FAMILY, BUT EACH IS GOING TO HAVE ITS OWN GARAGE. SO IT SHOULD BE MORE RESIDENTIAL FEELING YOU KNOW, MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT'S THERE CURRENTLY. AND WE DO HAVE THE SCHOOL ADMIN ACROSS THE STREET. THESE ARE DIFFICULT LOTS. THERE'S MULTIPLE VACANT LOTS AROUND IT. SO SO YOU SAID THAT IT GOES IN THE SPIRIT OF OUR 2050 OR OUR DOWNTOWN PLAN, RIGHT? CORRECT. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU READ THAT? I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN, THE 2050 MASTER PLAN. BECAUSE THIS BUILDING DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING HISTORIC ABOUT IT. THERE IS NOTHING THAT BLENDS IN. SO THIS IS WHERE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. WHAT FLEXIBILITY DO YOU GUYS HAVE? BECAUSE FROM WHAT I SEE IN A DOWNTOWN AREA, YOU HAVE A VERY CONTEMPORARY BUILDING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IN A DOWNTOWN CORE THAT IS SPECIFICALLY HISTORIC. AND THAT IS WHAT THE DOWNTOWN PLAN IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RESTORE. WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AN AMBIANCE HERE. SO HOW DOES THAT GET US TO THERE? COUNCIL MEMBER SINGH, ACTUALLY SO THAT THERE IS NO HISTORIC AREA THAT IS NOT A HISTORIC. YES. IT'S NOT A HISTORIC AREA, BUT THE SPIRIT OF IT. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING A HISTORIC AREA FOR SIX YEARS. IT'S GONE. YES. THANK YOU FOR STAFF'S COMMENTS. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. APPRECIATE IT. THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE PLAN THAT SAYS THAT THAT'S A HISTORIC AREA. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN, RIGHT. WHAT IS THE SOUL OF DOWNTOWN? IT'S PRESERVING OUR HISTORY. I THINK THAT'S A CORE COMPONENT OF WHAT COMES INTO OUR DOWNTOWN. ALSO, I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE IT FITS THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD HERE. NOW, THE OTHER THE OTHER SPEAKER HERE SPOKE ABOUT THE SOUL OF DOWNTOWN. HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT ADDS AND ELEVATES THE SOUL OF DOWNTOWN? WELL, AGAIN, WE'RE BRINGING IN TERMS OF VISION. I'M ASSUMING WE'RE BRINGING WALKABILITY. WE'RE BRINGING AND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT IN LINE WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. WE'RE TOTALLY OPEN. WE WANTED THE STONE BECAUSE IT'S NICE. WE WANTED YOU KNOW, ESTHETICALLY, SOMETHING THAT'S VERY ESTHETICALLY PLEASING. IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO, WE WANTED WE WANT TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S VERY VISUALLY APPEALING TO THE NEIGHBORS, TO PEOPLE WHO ARE DOWN THERE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO PERHAPS MORE IN LINE IN TERMS OF THE EXTERIOR, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE HISTORICAL, THEN WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU, YOU KNOW, TAKING NOTE OF THAT. BUT ONCE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION. HOW DOES THIS BENEFIT ANNA? YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S FOUR UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN HERE. MAYBE THERE'S LUCKILY TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE IN EACH UNIT. PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE TYPE OF DENSITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE TO SUPPORT THESE TYPE OF LOCAL BUSINESSES. I COULD BE WRONG HERE, BUT THIS IS, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, DOES NOT ALIGN WITH WHERE WE WANT TO SEE OR WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR DOWNTOWN GO. WHEN WE LOOK AT GRAPEVINE, WHEN WE LOOK AT MCKINNEY, WHEN WE LOOK AT OTHER AREAS, WE'VE SEEN WHAT INFILL HAS CREATED IN SOME OF THESE PLACES WHERE SIMILAR TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS HAVE COME IN. AND JUST THE FLOW OF THE CITY OF THAT CERTAIN AREA GETS THROWN OFF. SO I THINK I'VE MADE A COUPLE CLEAR POINTS HERE. IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON SOME COUNCIL, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE UNIT ITSELF. CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE? NOPE. THAT ONE. SO YOU'VE GOT GARAGE UNIT ONE AND THERE'S STAIRS IN IT. GARAGE UNIT TWO. AND THEY'RE STAIRS IN IT. GARAGE UNIT FOUR DOES NOT HAVE STAIRS AND GARAGE. [01:15:05] UNIT THREE HAS STAIRS, BUT YOU HAVE BLOCK LOT. YOU HAVE A UNIT ONE UP TOP. WHERE IS THAT PARKING? UNIT ONE IS DOWNSTAIRS. IT'S THE ONLY UNIT THAT'S DOWNSTAIRS. SO THE GARAGE WOULD WALK STRAIGHT BACK INTO IT. THAT'S WHY YOU ONLY SEE THREE STAIRS. SO GARAGE UNIT FOUR IS THE GARAGE FOUR UNIT ONE? I THINK GARAGE UNIT ONE IS THE GARAGE. THERE'S STAIRS THERE. WHAT DO THE STAIRS GO TO. THE STAIRS ARE COMING IN FROM. IS THAT FOUR UNIT FOUR? YEAH. YEAH. MY NAME IS KEN HOLLIFIELD. I AM A REGISTERED ARCHITECT WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS. I PREPARE THESE PLANS. MY ADDRESS IS 67 DEV COVE COURT, MURPHY, TEXAS. YEAH. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS REGARDING THESE. YOU KNOW, ONE IS A GROUND FLOOR UNIT. THE GARAGE FOR UNIT ONE IS ADJACENT TO IT. THERE ARE THREE UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THERE ARE STAIRS LEADING TO EACH OF THOSE THREE UNITS THAT WILL BE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. WE'RE STILL IN DESIGN WHEN IT COMES TO LAYING OUT THOSE UNITS AND EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE. THE PROPOSED SQUARE FOOTAGE IS AROUND 850 OR SO SQUARE FEET FOR EACH UNIT. EACH UNIT HAS A GARAGE WITH A DOOR. AND THERE'S A VISITOR PARKING SPACE PROVIDED ON THE SIDE. WE PROVIDED THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFERS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR MULTIFAMILY ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL. WE PROVIDED ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS TO HELP SOFTEN THE BLOW BETWEEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS UNIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. SO EACH ONE HAS A GARAGE AND A DRIVEWAY HAS A GARAGE AND A DRIVEWAY. YES MA'AM. BECAUSE I LIVE IN A HOUSE IN A, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I KNOW A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS DON'T USE THEIR GARAGE FOR A GARAGE. THEY USE IT FOR WOODWORKING OR STORAGE OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. IF THIS HAPPENS HERE AND YOU'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE PER UNIT, SO YOU'VE GOT TWO AND THREE, TWO AND FOUR, TWO AND TWO AND TWO AND ONE. WHERE ARE THEY ALL GOING TO PARK? AND WE'RE MEETING YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS. I DON'T REALLY KNOW. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE STREETS IN THIS AREA ARE VERY SMALL. AND IF THIS IS GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF STREET PARKING, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND EVEN EMERGENCY SERVICES CAN'T GET THROUGH THERE. OUR GARAGE OR DRIVEWAYS ARE CURRENTLY WILL BE AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION, LONG ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE A TANDEM PARKING WITH THE GARAGE AS WELL AS THE DRIVEWAY SO YOU CAN PARK THE CAR ON THE DRIVEWAY AND IN GARAGE. THANK YOU. WHERE ELSE HAVE Y'ALL BUILT SOMETHING LIKE THIS? WE HAVEN'T. SO WE WERE BUILDING IN THE M STREETS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, DOWNTOWN WHEN IT WAS GOING THROUGH THAT SAME TRANSITION. SO FOR US, THIS IS SOMETHING SIMILAR. WE HAVE THIS WAS NOT WHAT WE WERE BUILDING DOWN THERE, BUT THIS IS AS BEST THIS IS THE BEST WE COULD DO WITH THIS LOT IN TERMS OF IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK FOR SINGLE FAMILY. THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS IT DOESN'T. DIDN'T HAVE TO GO IN FRONT OF OUR NO, IT HAD TO GO IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, STEPHANIE, TO BE ABLE TO EVEN ACCEPT A SINGLE FAMILY. THIS THIS LOT'S BEEN IN FRONT OF OUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR A REASON. AND CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT? SO EVERYBODY ELSE IS AWARE? YES. SO THIS THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY TOOK THIS TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. I BELIEVE THAT THEY WANTED TO AT ONE TIME BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THIS PROPERTY, AND SO IT NEEDED TO DO THAT. THEY REQUESTED VARIANCES FROM THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. AND I THINK. BECAUSE THE LOT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, CORRECT. FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT THEY WANTED TO BUILD, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS, DID NOT MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM THE LOTS NOT BIG ENOUGH. IT HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING AND THE BOARD ADJUSTMENTS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY TO PUTTING A LET'S JUST CALL IT WHAT IT IS. IT'S A FOURPLEX. IT'S A CORNER OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BUILDING. AND THANK YOU, STEPHANIE, BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DO, BUT THIS WHOLE TRANSITIONING, YOU CAN'T YOU'RE ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE TRANSITIONING ONE CORNER AT A TIME. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. AND COUNCILMAN BAKER STATED THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S WORKING ON TRYING. I'VE HEARD TALKS OF A HISTORICAL DISTRICT. I THINK IT'S TIME. YES. SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. YOU KNOW, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS AFTER THE MEETING, BUT IT'S IT JUST DOESN'T FIT. [01:20:01] SO, YES, WE DON'T HAVE AN HISTORICAL AREA, BUT WE STILL CAN PROTECT OUR HISTORICAL AREA, AND WE CAN STILL PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS. I HEARD FROM A FEW OF THEM. THAT'S LONG, YOU KNOW, VERY OLD ANNA. AND THE PARKING. THIS IS DOWNTOWN. THERE'S NOTHING. I JUST I CAN'T GET ON BOARD WITH ANY OF THIS. AND I KNOW I'M GOING TO PERSONALLY BE A HARD NO, SO. BUT I DO APPRECIATE MAYBE THERE'S SOMEWHERE ELSE Y'ALL CAN BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I DON'T REALLY LIKE MULTIFAMILY, SO MAYBE YOU CAN BUILD SOME SINGLE FAMILY, BUT I JUST CAN'T GET ON BOARD. THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WANTED TO ADDRESS WITH REGARDS TO WHAT YOU HAD SAID ABOUT I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE YOU ALL HAVE A VISION. I WANTED TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY YOU WERE SAYING. IT'S TOO SMALL EVEN FOR THAT. WHY WOULD IT BE BIG ENOUGH? IT'S THE SETBACKS THAT CHANGED THAT. IT WASN'T. WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER WE'RE TRYING TO ACTUALLY BRING WITH THIS WITH THIS CHANGE WE HAVE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE MORE SETBACKS THAN YOU WOULD FOR THE DOWNTOWN CORE, WHICH IS THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING IN FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOT. SO THIS IS CURRENTLY YOUR MASTER PLAN. THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN CORE. WE HAVE WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT CHANGED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT THERE IS MORE BUFFER, MORE TREES MORE. AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE SINGLE FAMILY, THE ONLY REASON IT DIDN'T WORK ON THIS LOT AND DOESN'T WORK IS BECAUSE THE FOOTPRINT HAS TO BE VERY, VERY SMALL BECAUSE YOU HAVE 25 FOOT SETBACKS BACK AND FRONT. IT'S NOT APPEALING TO DEVELOPERS. IT'S NOT APPEALING. IT'S GOING TO REMAIN VACANT. WELL NEITHER IS NEITHER IS 4 APARTMENTS APPEALING TO IN THIS AREA. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST NOT YOU KNOW AND LIKE COUNCIL LADY HERNDON SAID YOU KNOW, I DON'T PARKING MY GARAGE. I USE IT FOR WOODWORKING. AND MY MOTORCYCLE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK. AND THOSE ROADS ARE SO SMALL THERE IT AND I'M NOT LOOKING TO TAKE PEOPLE'S YARD FRONT YARD TO MAKE THE ROADS WIDER. THAT'S JUST NOT THE VISION. IT'S JUST NOT. I DON'T THINK IF YOU BUILT THIS COMPLEX OUT OF OLD WOOD THAT YOU FOUND FROM AN OLD HOUSE IS GOING TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER OR FIT IN, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK. AND I. YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY THAT YOU DID ALL THIS WORK, BUT I, YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I JUST I WILL BE A NO. SO I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OF DENIAL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WHO GAVE ME THE SECOND. WHO DO YOU HAVE? CARRIE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. WAIT. THE MOTION WAS DENIED. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES SIX ONE. YOU THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, DIDN'T YOU? THAT'S WHY. YEAH. SORRY. IT WAS THE OPPOSITE DAY FOR NATHAN. THAT'S ALL IT IS. SO MENTALLY, THAT'S A UNANIMOUS VOTE. ALL RIGHT. TAKES US ON TO ITEM C. CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. ACTING DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MR. JEFF FREETH. MAYOR, COUNCIL JEFF FREETH, ACTING DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. BEFORE YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING OUR SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT ORDINANCE, I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME AREAS OF THE ORDINANCE, NAMELY THE HISTORY. THE CURRENT ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN OCTOBER OF ON OCTOBER 14TH, 2008. FAST FORWARD TO TODAY, 2025. SINCE THEN, WE'VE SEEN GROWTH IN THE FOLLOWING POPULATION. PUBLIC USE AMENITIES ARE PART AMENITIES, AS WELL AS INQUIRIES AND SUBMISSIONS OF SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT APPLICATIONS. THE NATURE OF AMENDING OUR PERMIT ORDINANCE IS TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THOSE FACTORS, NAMELY BEING THE CHANGE FROM A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS TO SUBMIT TO 60 DAYS. THIS ALLOWS OUR STAFF THE TIME TO ONE WORK WITH THE APPLICANT. TAKE THEM THROUGH THE BEGINNING STAGES OF THE PROCESS AN APPLICATION. MAKE SURE THAT THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND THE ELEMENTS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT, AS WELL AS TAKE IT THROUGH OUR INTER-DEPARTMENTAL LOGISTICS EVENT LOGISTICS TEAM, WHICH CONSISTS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, CODE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DEPARTMENT IN WHICH WE REVIEW OUR EVENTS MONTHLY, OR WE MEET ON A MORE FREQUENT IF WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS COMING UP THAT NEED A LOT MORE ATTENTION. BUT THAT WOULD ALLOW US IN A CASE OF, FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT NOW, [01:25:04] IF YOU WERE TO SUBMIT ON THE 30 DAY MARK, YOU COULD TECHNICALLY SUBMIT AFTER OUR PARKS ADVISORY BOARD MEETING AND OUR REQUIREMENT, AS DETAILED ON HERE, IS THAT YOU WOULD NEED THE PARK ADVISORY BOARD APPROVAL IN ADDITION TO THE COUNCIL. SO IF YOU SUBMITTED IT THE DAY AFTER, THAT MAY NOT EVEN GIVE THE FULL 30 DAYS IN ORDER TO MAKE IT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO PART OF IT IS WE'RE ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE. CHANGE HIGHLIGHTED IS TO MAKE IT SO THAT THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE COULD APPROVE IT. IT'S A STREAMLINED PROCESS FOR OUR NEIGHBORS OR THE APPLICANTS SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO STAFF FEEDBACK IN A TIMELY MANNER, WHERE IT'S NOT SO RUSHED THROUGH THE PROCESS OR HIT AGAINST GUIDELINES THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING THEM APPROVED. SO THE 30 DAYS TO 60 DAYS IS A MAJOR HIGHLIGHT. ALSO, YOU'LL SEE ATTACHED IN THE AGENDA PACKET IS A NEW PERMIT APPLICATION. AND THAT DETAILS THE ESSENCE OF THE UPDATED ORDINANCE. ALSO, IT SERVES AS A GUIDELINE FOR THE APPLICANTS ON ELEMENTS THAT THEY SHOULD THINK OF, AND IT MINIMIZES MAYBE THE BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATIONS WHERE IT'S ON THE APPLICATION. THEY THOROUGHLY THINK THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES. SO THEN WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM, THEY'VE ALREADY FLESHED THOSE IDEAS OUT RATHER THAN WASTING THOSE VALUABLE DAYS OF POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, HOLDING IT BACK AND AGAIN, ALLOWING OUR TEAM TO REVIEW IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE SAFETY FACTORS AND ELEMENTS. BECAUSE OUR MAIN GOAL, WHETHER IT BE A CITY OR AN EVENT OR AN EVENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IS ONE IS SAFETY AND TWO IS THE ENJOYMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORS. AND THIS IS REALLY WHAT THE ESSENCE OF THIS ORDINANCE UPDATE IS, IS AGAIN, TO COVER ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS. SO IT'S VERY TRANSPARENT AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS OF ARE THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO RUNNING A SPECIAL EVENT AT ONE OF OUR FACILITIES OR POTENTIALLY A PRIVATE FACILITY THAT MAY CREATE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FROM CITY, WHETHER IT BE TRAFFIC OR THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO THOSE ARE THE MAIN ELEMENTS OF WHAT IS HIGHLIGHTED. AND THE CHANGES AND THEN OUR THE NEXT SLIDE WILL DETAIL KIND OF OUR PROCESS. AGAIN, ONE OF OUR PILLARS IS PROFESSIONALISM. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. MAKE IT A VERY PROFESSIONAL PROCESS AND LETTING THE NEIGHBORS KNOW THAT WE WILL GO THROUGH AND WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT IN EACH STEP OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT ORDINANCE PROCESS. IT WOULD BE A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, WHETHER IT BE A VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON, JUST GOING OVER THE APPLICATION. WE HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS. OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR WE PROBABLY TRIPLED OUR QUADRUPLED THE AMOUNT OF SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT APPLICATIONS FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S A REFLECTION OF OUR GROWING INVENTORY OF AMENITIES AS WELL. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A PLAZA THAT'S GETTING BUILT THAT MAY SPARK SOME INTEREST. AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT EVENTS, A 5K, A CAR SHOW, THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T TYPICALLY HAD IN THE PAST THAT ARE GOOD EVENTS FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEY UNDERSTAND, HEY, HERE'S HOW WE'LL GET IT DONE. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR APPLICANTS. SO THERE'S THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING APPLICATION, WHICH WOULD BE SUBMITTED THROUGH A PORTAL. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT AGAIN, ALSO INITIATES THAT DAYS THEY CAN EXPECT WHEN THEY SUBMITTED IT. NOW IT ALERTS OUR STAFF THAT THE APPLICATION HAS COME THROUGH. AND AGAIN IT ALLOWS FOR DOCUMENTATION THEM TO SUBMIT ALL THE DOCUMENTS AND REALLY ALLOWS US TO PROCESS THEM IN A TIMELY AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER. ALSO, THE APPLICATION WILL THEN BE REVIEWED BY OUR SPECIAL EVENT REVIEW COMMITTEE. AS I DISCUSSED, IT'S THE INTERNAL LOGISTICS. EVENT COMMITTEE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL TAKE ALL OF THOSE NOTES AND FEEDBACK AND WE'LL MEET OR DISCUSS WITH THE APPLICANT. THERE'S MAJOR ISSUES MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, WHETHER IT BE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REIMBURSED BY THE APPLICANT BECAUSE OF PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENTS. AND ALSO YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S FACTORS IN THE SITE PLAN THAT NEED ADJUSTMENT, WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE. AND THEN THE APPLICATION WOULD THEN IF EVERYTHING IS AGREED UPON BY BOTH PARTIES MAKE ITS WAY TO THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE FOR APPROVAL. AND THEN FROM THERE PERMIT IS ISSUED. AND THEN THE EVENT DAY OCCURS. AND AS WE DO WITH OUR EVENTS AND AS WE WOULD DO FOR THE APPLICANTS, IS PROVIDE A POST-EVENT FOLLOW UP IN WHICH WE WOULD DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S AN ANNUAL THING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO DO AND KIND OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THEM. AND IT'S ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THE PROCESS WAS SEAMLESS FOR THEM. AND IF THERE'S AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT FOR US AS WELL. [01:30:03] AND THEN WE WOULD ISSUE THEM THE DEPOSIT OF THEIR REFUND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE ESSENCE OF WHAT THE UPDATE IS ENCAPSULATING. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO. SORRY, STAN. SO IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET NOTICE TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ASKED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE PAST TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE CHANGING IT TO 60 DAYS? BECAUSE I WOULD HATE FOR SOMEBODY TO COME BACK AT DAY 45 AND BE TOLD, WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE 60 DAYS IN ADVANCE. WE CAN'T HELP YOU. ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL LOOK AT ANYBODY WHO HAS SUBMITTED IN THE PAST, OR EVEN HAD AN INQUIRY FOR AN EVENT IN THE PAST AND MAY HAVE WITHDRAWN FOR WHATEVER REASON ON THERE. AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP IN THERE. WE'LL ALSO WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIVISION IN ENSURING THAT WE'LL COME UP WITH A BROCHURE THAT WE HAVE ONLINE, AND WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO COMMUNICATE OUT. WE ALSO HAVE THE ACTIVITY GUIDE THAT WE SEND OUT QUARTERLY. WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF. INFORMATION IN HERE AS WELL. YEAH, WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET THAT OUT TO ANYBODY WHO MAY NEED THAT INFORMATION. GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU SIR. ABSOLUTELY. THANKS, MAYOR. BY THE WAY, CONGRATULATIONS ON BECOMING THE ACTING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. WHATEVER HIS BIG, LONG TITLE. ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS. SORRY NOT TO MAKE LIGHT OF IT. THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. THERE YOU GO. JEFF, THIS IS I'M CONCERNED. SO WHAT THE MAYOR WAS ASKING WAS MY CONCERN AS WELL. SO WHAT IS THE LENIENCY? SO WE COMMUNICATE THIS OUT. BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL EVENTS THAT WE'VE APPROVED WITHIN A 30 DAY TIME PERIOD. AND SO IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO RUSH AN EVENT THROUGH. ARE WE ABLE TO HANDLE IT? AND IS IT THE CITY MANAGER'S DESIGNEE THAT'S APPROVING THAT OR DOES IT COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL? HOW ARE WE. WHERE'S THE MERCY IN THIS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THINGS THAT WERE NOT PLANNED OUT 60 DAYS OR MORE? OUR PREFERENCE, OBVIOUSLY, IS TO GET PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROCESS. I MEAN, WE START OUR SPECIAL EVENT PLANNING EIGHT MONTHS TO A YEAR AHEAD OF TIME. AND SO THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF IT. AND THERE ARE SOME APPLICANTS WHO HAVE SUBMITTED RATHER THAN 30 DAYS, THAT WE GOT THEM WITHIN THE 30 DAYS, BUT THEY HAD STARTED DISCUSSIONS AND NEEDED TO GET THEIR ELEMENTS AHEAD OF TIME. THE ESSENCE OF IT, AGAIN, IS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE SUBMITTING THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION NOW WHEN IT COMES TO WITHIN THE 60 DAY MARK. NOW, CLARKE, I WOULD LEAN ON YOU FOR THAT AS FAR AS WHAT LENIENCY THE ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW WITHIN THE 60 DAYS. OKAY. OKAY. THAT WAS THE ANSWER. HE SAID WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. SO. AND AS FAR AS YOUR STAFF GOES IS 60 DAYS TOO MUCH? IS IT LEADING EDGE TO BE ABLE TO GET ONE OF THESE THINGS DONE IN 60 DAYS? WHY NOT 45 DAYS? I MEAN, THIS IS DOUBLE THE TIME. 60 DAYS IS IN STANDARD. AND NOW WE LEANED ON COMMUNITIES THAT ARE AROUND US. SOME OF THEM ARE MUCH LONGER THAN 60 DAYS. SOME OF THEM ARE 90 DAYS. 60 DAYS BY STANDARD IS MOST OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT. AND AGAIN, IS A PROCESSING. SO WE WERE ACTUALLY ON THE VERY SHORTER END OF WHAT OTHER CITIES ORDINANCE ARE. SO IT IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THOSE PRACTICES ARE THOSE BEST PRACTICES. AND WITH STAFF, THE 60 DAYS TRULY WOULD ALLOW THE NECESSARY TIME TO WORK WITH APPLICANTS, WHEREAS 30 DAYS WAS A VERY RUSHED AMOUNT OF TIME. AND AGAIN YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO PLANNING OUR OWN EVENTS YOU KNOW, OUR COORDINATOR, OUR TEAM ALSO IS PROCESSING THESE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS AS WELL. AND SO IT HELPS US WITH THE BALANCE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BEING VERY DILIGENT AGAINST ON THE SAFETY COMPONENTS SO THAT WE CAN MEET WITH THE INTER-DEPARTMENTAL LOGISTICS TEAM AND GET THE INSIGHT FROM PUBLIC SAFETY AND OTHER STAFF TO ADEQUATELY MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE PERMIT IS APPROVED, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SAFE FOR OUR NEIGHBOR. OKAY. SO 60 DAYS IS A VERY STANDARD AMOUNT OF TIME TO ALLOW PROCESSING FOR STAFF. OKAY. BASICALLY THIS IS THIS SPECIAL EVENT IS KIND OF THE KEY WORD HERE. SO YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST WANTING TO HAVE LIKE THE GRANDCHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY AT SLAYTER CREEK WHERE YOU JUST DO A PARK PAVILION RESERVATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [01:35:07] THIS WOULD BE A SPECIAL EVENT. SO COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT SPECIAL EVENT WOULD TRIGGER? A SPECIAL EVENT AGAIN ANY TIME THAT. SO AND CURRENTLY THERE'S A BIRTHDAY PARTY. THEY CAN GO THROUGH A RESERVATION. YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY 30, 40, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. IT'S JUST THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT IT MAY IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY OR ANY STAFF COMPONENTS. SO THAT REALLY AND THERE ARE SOME TIMES THAT WE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE CALL UP AND ASK, YOU KNOW, HEY, WHAT'S THE PROCESS WHEN I'M DOING THIS? AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND RESERVE A PAVILION AND YOU'LL GO, YOU KNOW, OKAY, IT'S ANYTHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A SOUND SYSTEM. WELL, THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY UNDER AN ORDINANCE OF A RESERVATION. SO THIS WOULD BE IF THEY WERE HAVING AN EVENT WITH THE SOUND SYSTEM, THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT WOULD ALLOW THEM FOR THAT SPECIAL USE OF SLAYTER CREEK PARK OR SHERLEY HERITAGE PARK OR ANY PARK. SO IT'S REALLY WHAT IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON OUR CITY RESOURCES. CAN I ASK A MATTER OF PROCEDURE? IN JUST A FEW WEEKS, WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT OUR CHARTER AMENDMENTS TO THE, YOU KNOW, PREPARE ALL THAT FOR THE VOTERS. THIS SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN THAT. BUT AS THAT PROCESS, WILL THE VOTERS BE VOTING ON EACH ONE OF THE ITEMS OR WILL BE A HOLISTIC DOCUMENT AND IT WILL BE A YES NO VOTE FOR THE DOCUMENT ITSELF? ON THE BALLOT EACH ITEM WILL BE A YES OR NO VOTE. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE TO THE COUNCIL THAT THIS CHANGE BE SOMETHING THAT WE PRESENT AS WELL, OR AT LEAST BE A TALKING POINT ON OUR AUGUST 13TH MEETING. 12TH. 12TH. THIS THIS THIS ORDINANCE, I MEAN, CHARTER ORDINANCE, KIND OF TWO SEPARATE THINGS, RIGHT? YEAH. ARE YOU NOT WANTING TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. WELL, I'M TRYING TO SO JUST RECENTLY, THE MOST RECENT ONE THAT I CAN THINK OF, WE HAD MINUTEMEN DO A CAR SHOW, AND THAT HAPPENED WITHIN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. I'M NOT AWARE THAT IT CREATED A LOT OF ISSUES FOR OUR STAFF. WELL, I THINK IT'S [INAUDIBLE] MAN, AND I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THAT WAS I'M SPEAKING FROM THE OTHER SIDE ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE THAT HAD TO LEAD UP TO THE FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION ONLINE. I DID IT ONLINE, BUT IT WAS JUST SOME IN PERSON. I CAME UP FOR THE MEETING. I MEAN, THIS I THINK 60 DAYS IS IDEAL. 30 DAYS. I THINK I DID IT FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS. I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER, BUT 60 DAYS, KIND OF IT ALSO HELPS US STAND IF YOU JUST LOOK AT IT THIS WAY. LET'S SAY THEY COME UP IN 60 DAYS, OR THEY MAY COME UP IN 70 DAYS, OR THEY'RE PLANNING AND THEY'RE WANTING TO USE PARKING LOT OR THE SLAYTER CREEK PARK OR SOMETHING OR HERE, OUR STAFF, WE'VE ASKED OUR STAFF TO HOLD A LOT OF EVENTS. WE OUR CITY ALONE HOLDS A LOT OF EVENTS. SO 60 DAYS WILL KIND OF SAY, HEY, WELL, WE ALREADY GOT THIS PLAN. CAN YOU KIND OF REARRANGE IT AND MAYBE DO IT THE WEEKEND BEFORE. DO IT THE WEEKEND AFTER. SO IS THAT YOUR HOLDUP? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR HOLDUP. THE WELL, SO I TRY TO ALWAYS FAVOR STAFF. I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO WORK THIS, AND SO I'M LISTENING. I THINK THEY WANT I THINK THEY WANT IT TO BE 60 DAYS, SO THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT RUSHING BECAUSE WHAT'S THE GUY'S NAME? CHRISTIAN. CHRISTIAN. TRISTAN. TRISTAN. TRISTAN. TRISTAN. YOU KNOW, HE THAT DUDE RUNS 90 MILES TO NOTHING, AND YOU KNOW, HE'S HAVING TO CHASE DOWN FIRE. HE'S HAVING TO CHASE DOWN POLICE BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE TO. IT JUST GIVES THEM MORE TIME TO HAVE THAT SPECIAL EVENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETINGS, NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THEY HAVE IT MONTHLY, BUT AND IF IT'S 30 DAYS AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE COMING UP TRYING TO HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT EVERY WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, THAT SPECIAL REVIEW EVENT REVIEW COMMITTEE IS GOING TO HAVE TO MEET MORE THAN ONCE THAT MONTH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO I THINK I THINK THEY'RE WANTING THIS. THAT'S WHY THEY, I, THEY THE STAFF DID ASK MY OPINION ON A FEW THINGS BECAUSE I WAS ON FROM THE OTHER SIDE AND IT WENT, MAN, IT IT WENT FLAWLESS. IT YOU KNOW, IT WAS MORE SO MY LAZINESS, I IF I HAD NO IDEA WE WERE ON THE PARKS AGENDA AND UNTIL IT SHOWED I WAS THERE [01:40:03] THAT NIGHT, I'M LIKE, OH, WE'RE ON THE PARKS AGENDA. BUT THIS JUST MAKES WAY MORE SENSE THAT IT TAKES IT AWAY FROM THE PARKS. IT TAKES IT AWAY FROM IN OUR AGENDA. AND IT JUST GIVES OUR CITY MANAGER THE POWER TO DO THEIR JOB. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THEY GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS FOR. SO BASED ON YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE BEING THE MOST RECENT, I MEAN, I'D SAY WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND IT. I'M SORRY. NO, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A MOTION FROM STAN WHO SECONDED THAT? OKAY. TOTEN. AND A SECOND BY TOTEN. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. TAKES US TO ITEM 6D. COUNCILMAN CARVER WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION BEFORE WE TACKLE THAT OUT HERE IN FRONT. SO I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE [7. Closed Session (Exceptions) (Part 1 of 2).] 551.072 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.074, AND TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.087. MAYOR, DO WE WANT TO COVER OUR CLOSED ALL OF OUR CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AT THAT TIME? HOW MANY CLOSED SESSION TIMES DO WE HAVE TONIGHT? DIDN'T YOU JUST READ OFF THE SECTIONS? THAT WAS ALL OF THEM. OKAY. INCLUDING PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL AS WELL. OKAY. 551.074. IT MIGHT BE A WHILE. YEAH. OKAY. THEN I'D LIKE TO ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR THIS ONE ITEM. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. WE'LL DO ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SAY AYE. OH, NO. WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. THERE IT IS. YOU'RE TOO FAST FOR ME NOW, GRACE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE IN CLOSED FOR THIS ITEM ALONE. GRACE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 9:07 P.M.. WE ARE A CLOSED SESSION AND HAVING NOTHING TO DISCUSS OUT OF CLOSED AND SEEING NO OBJECTION. [8. Consider/Discuss/Action on any items listed on any agenda - work session, regular meeting, or closed session - that is duly posted by the City of Anna for any City Council meeting occurring on the same date as the meeting noticed in this agenda. ] WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.