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>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ANNA PLANNING

[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]

AND ZONING MEETING FOR APRIL 7TH, 2025.

THE TIME IS NOW 6:05 PM.

WE ARE MISSING COMMISSIONERS NYLEC, HERMANN, AND BERGERSON.

QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.

ALL RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN.

>> DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU GRACE US WITH YOUR PRESENCE TONIGHT, THAT YOU PROVIDE US WITH DISCERNMENT TO CARRY OUT YOUR WILL AND NOT OUR OWN, TO MAKE DECISIONS TO IMPROVE OUR CITY.

LORD, PLACE YOUR HANDS OVER EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT, HEAL THE HURT MISUNDERSTANDINGS OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND OPEN OUR MINDS TO COME TOGETHER.

WE ASK THIS OF YOU IN YOUR SON'S NAME. AMEN.

>> AMEN.

>> WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMENTS.

[3. Neighbor Comments]

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING TO AN ITEM ON THIS MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

ALSO, AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THIS MEETING AGENDA.

EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A NEIGHBOR'S INQUIRY OR RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.

I DO HAVE A PUBLIC SPEAKER CARD.

MR. TERRELL CULBERTSON, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS TERRELL CULBERTSON.

I LIVE AT 10429 COUNTY ROAD 289, ANNA, WHERE I'VE LIVED FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME GENERAL COMMENTS ON THE LAST TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, THE FEEDBACK ON THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR OAK-RIDGE DEVELOPMENT AND TRINITY CREEK.

I CAN COMBINE THOSE COMMENTS BECAUSE THOSE TWO PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS ARE SO CLOSE TOGETHER.

I HAVE BEEN AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN THE 2050 MASTER PLAN UPDATE.

I'VE ADDRESSED THIS COMMISSION SEVERAL TIMES, AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL.

AS YOU KNOW, THAT PLAN WAS RECENTLY RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY YOU FOLKS AND WAS SUBSEQUENTLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT, I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILMAN BILLS, REMINDED EVERYONE THAT THAT DOCUMENT IS A PLAN.

IT IS NOT CAST IN STONE, IT'S NOT LAW, IT'S NOT ZONING, IT IS A PLAN.

I DO NOTE THAT THE MAPS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET REALLY DON'T PROVIDE A LOT OF DETAIL.

I DID NOT FIND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR EITHER OF THOSE TWO DEVELOPMENTS.

I DID FIND A CONCEPT PLAN ONLINE ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE OWNERS OF OAK-RIDGE.

IN THE MASTER PLAN UPDATE, MUCH OF THE AREA THAT'S INCLUDED IN OAK-RIDGE IS DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN LIVING.

WHICH IS THE 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS UP TO HALF-ACRE.

THAT CONCEPT PLAN THAT I DID FIND ONLINE, I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD IT IS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW UP TO DATE IT IS, BUT I DID NOTE THAT THERE'S ONLY 163 LOTS OUT OF ABOUT 23 OR 400 THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN LIVING, THAT UP TO HALF-ACRE LOT SIZE.

THAT'S 82 ACRES OF THAT, WHICH IS ABOUT 10%.

THAT REALLY DOES NOT REFLECT THE AREA THAT'S BEEN DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN LIVING.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE OF THAT.

THE GENERAL COMMENT THAT I HAVE IS, I THINK YOU HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY ON BOTH OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO, I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WORD IS, INSTRUCT, ENCOURAGE, SUGGEST, RECOMMEND, DIRECT THE DEVELOPERS TO LOOK AT LARGER LOT SIZES THERE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I HAVE HAD CONCERN

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ABOUT IS THAT WE'RE PUTTING ALL OF OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET INTO THIS ONE CATEGORY, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE LARGER LOT SIZE WITH LARGER HOMES, AND I THINK YOU HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, GETTING IN ON THE GROUND FLOOR OR THE CONCEPT PLAN HERE, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. NOW, FOR ITEM NUMBER 4 ON THE AGENDA, DIRECTOR'S REPORT BY MS. SCOTT-SIMS.

>> SOMEONE ELSE WANTED.

>> MS. SHARP, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TOO? SORRY, I HAD A NOTE HERE FOR ITEM 17.

>> 10282 COUNTY ROAD 288, BRITTNEY SHARP.

I'VE HEARD BY HEARSAY THAT SOME IN THIS TOWN CALL ME THAT OLD WOMAN WHO WON'T SHUT UP ABOUT EQUESTRIAN DEVELOPMENTS. I LOVE THAT.

I HAVE FRIENDS IN LOW PLACES, AND I'VE BEEN CALLED WORSE NAMES BY BETTER FACES.

SO SADDLE UP BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE.

THE REINS ARE IN YOUR HANDS.

GUIDE ANNA TOWARD SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY, NOT THE SAME PLOTTING WORN OUT, NAGGING DEVELOPER WAVERS WITH THE SAME TIRED HOUSES.

DEMAND IS HERE FOR HOMES ON ACREAGE.

I'VE PRESENTED YOU THAT EVIDENCE.

TRINITY AND OAKRIDGE ARE IDEALLY PLACED AND TOPOGRAPHICALLY BEAUTIFUL FOR HOMES ON ACREAGE, WHICH WOULD FIT THE SURROUNDING EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL.

JUST WEST, A SHORT TROT AWAY FROM OAKRIDGE IS THE BEAUTIFUL LAKE TRAILS EQUESTRIAN DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S RIGHT ON THEIR BACKSIDE.

YOU COULD WALK FROM THEIR PROPERTY.

I WONDER IF ANY OF THOSE DEVELOPERS HAVE EVER EVEN SEEN IT.

NOW, AS FAR AS TRINITY, TO THE WEST OF TRINITY AND OAKRIDGE IS COMMERCIAL LUCKY STAR EQUESTRIAN, NORTH SPIRIT SONG, THERAPY BARN.

STARFIRE IS NEAR.

WRECK VILLAGE RV BOAT STORAGE ON 455.

YOU KNOW WHY THAT WAS BUILT THERE? BECAUSE IT'S QUICK ACCESS TO LEVAN, TEXOMA, AND RAY ROBERTS.

GUESS WHAT THOSE LAKES HAVE.

MILES OF EQUESTRIAN TRAILS.

ACREAGE HOMES FIT THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.

NEW COMMERCIAL, TRINITY OAKS, D&L FEED COUNTRY STORE.

BOY, DO WE NEED ONE? WE ALL RIDE TO MCKINNEY OR CELINA.

A LEATHER AND SADDLE REPAIR SHOP.

UPSCALE WESTERN CLOTHING WOULDN'T YOU LOVE A LOCAL BARBECUE OUT THERE? YOU COULD HAVE A WESTERN DISTRICT FOR ANNA, SOMETHING UNIQUE, SOMETHING NO OTHER TOWN UP HERE HAS.

A WESTERN DISTRICT TIED TO WALKABLE TRAILS AND BIKE TRAILS.

MAKE THIS AREA THAT. THIS IS THE CHANCE.

OPP IN TRINITY CAN MAKE MORE MONEY CRAMMING IN THE SAME OLD TIRED BOILERPLATE DEVELOPMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROPOSE.

BUT I'M ASKING THEM, HELP MAKE OUR FUTURE EXTRAORDINARY, NOT ORDINARY.

BESIDES WALKABLE DOWNTOWN ANNA, WALKABLE FOSTER CROSSING PECANS AND IRIS GARDENS, YOU COULD HAVE A WALKABLE WESTERN DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALSO BE A DESTINATION.

THIS IS OUR CHANCE.

I'M GOING TO ASK TRINITY AND OAKRIDGE DEVELOPERS IF THEY'RE HERE, THINK ABOUT PUTTING ASIDE SOME OF THAT LAND FOR A THERAPY BARN.

I TOLD YOU LAST TIME, MAINGATE HAS A 400-CUSTOMER WAITING LIST.

RUSTIC RIDGE IS GROWING.

SPIRIT SONGS, GOING ON.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A MARKET? WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY COME TO TEXAS? HORSES. DON'T CONCRETE OVER THE LAST OF OUR HERITAGE IN THIS HISTORIC AREA WHERE WE ALSO HAVE HISTORIC PLACES TO VISIT.

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REMEMBER, THAT PULTE SALESPERSON TOLD ME THEY GET CALLS EVERY DAY FOR HOMES ON ACREAGE.

CELINA HAS SOLD OUT, AS FAR AS I COULD RESEARCH, THEIR HOMES ON ACREAGE.

IF WE GET A HOSPITAL ON 75, IT'S FOUR MILES FROM THERE.

HIGH-END PROFESSIONALS, THEY DON'T ALL WANT TO LIVE IN 40-FOOT GARDEN HOMES.

SPACE PEOPLE, TEXAS HERITAGE.

I ASK THESE DEVELOPERS TO THINK THEY COULD EVEN GET PR OUT OF THIS IF THEY DO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY.

THEY MIGHT BE NAMED TIMES DEVELOPER OF THE YEAR, LIKE MR. SYD KITSON WAS FROM FLORIDA.

PLEASE, LET'S THINK ABOUT SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY.

NOT THE SAME OLD BOILERPLATE.

DON'T BE AFRAID OF THE RIDE.

PUT YOUR FOOTS IN THE STIRRUP, AND RIDE TOWARDS SOMETHING RIGHT WITH A GROWING MARKET FOR IT.

DON'T BE AFRAID. IN FACT, I'LL LEAVE YOU BY YELLING NI HAO. GOOD NIGHT.

>> THANK YOU, MS. SHARP. WILL YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN ON ITEM 17, 18, AND 19 AS WELL?

>> NO, I'VE SAID EVERYTHING I HAD [LAUGHTER]

>> I DON'T WANT TO BE RUDE AND COUNT YOU OUT LIKE I DID JUST NOW, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4,

[4. Director's Report.]

DIRECTOR'S REPORT BY MS. SCOTT-SIMS.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO REPORT TONIGHT IS THAT ON MARCH 25TH, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.

I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND ASSISTANCE, AND PARTICIPATION WITHIN THAT PROCESS.

THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS.

[Consent Items]

DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO PULL AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> NO.

>> NO.

>> NO. IS THERE A MOTION FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 6 THROUGH 14?

>> A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> A SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER MARTIN AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LONGMIRE.

EVERYONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

[Items for Individual Consideration]

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE REGARDING A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL RADIO, TV, OR MICROWAVE OPERATIONS, TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER ON URBAN CROSSING, BLOCK A, LOT 19R.

OWNER IS URBAN CROSSING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

>> AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED TO TABLE TO THIS MEETING.

HOWEVER, WHILE WE WERE REVIEWING THE ITEM.

WE DISCOVERED THAT THEY WOULD NEED A VARIANCE.

THEREFORE, WE WILL NEED TO MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING.

>> IT NEEDS BOA APPROVAL PRIOR TO COMING TO US? CORRECT.

>> BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS NEEDS TO REVIEW THE VARIANCE FIRST.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER, STAFF?

>> NO.

>> I'M GOING TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:19 PM.

SINCE THIS HAVE TO BE TABLED, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE MAY 5TH, 2025, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT 6:00 PM.

WHICH WILL BE HELD AT THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX AT 120 WEST 7TH STREET. CAN I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VOLLMER. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACTION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE FOUR LOTS ON 2.5 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH POWELL PARKWAY IN WEST 7TH STREET FROM COMMERCIAL-1, C-1, SINGLE FAMILY DASH ONE, SF-1, TO DOWNTOWN, D-T.

THE OWNER IS THE CITY OF ANNA.

>> THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OWNS

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THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.

THEY ARE REQUESTING TO ZONE THE PROPERTY DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THAT DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS A CATALYST AREA.

IT IS ALSO IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ACTION ITEM TO HAVE A CITY-INITIATED REZONING OF THE PROPERTY.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:21 PM.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON ITEM 16? IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 16?

>> A MOTION TO PASS.

>> I'LL SECOND. EVERYONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

I HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MARTIN, SECOND BY MYSELF.

LOOKS LIKE IT PASSES UNANIMOUS.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER.

DISCUSS ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ANNA, TEXAS AMENDING ARTICLE 9.07, TREE PRESERVATION OF THE CITY OF CODE OF ORDINANCES.

>> MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, GREG PETERS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH A STAFF MEMBER OF THE TEXAS A&M FORESTRY DIVISION TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF MINOR CONCERNS THAT SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD REGARDING OUR CURRENT TREE ORDINANCES SO THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR YOU TO MAKE A VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES.

THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ARE PRETTY MINOR.

THEY REALLY ARE LIMITED TO JUST ADDRESSING APPENDIX 1, WHICH IS OUR LIST OF QUALITY TREES, AND APPENDIX 2, SPECIFICALLY, THE PLANT LIST FOR SHADE TREES AND ORNAMENTAL TREES.

BASED ON SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN MEETING WITH THE TEXAS A&M STAFF THAT WERE ABLE TO ASSIST US, WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE LISTS OF OUR TREES AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE REMOVAL OF SEVERAL TREE SPECIES FROM OUR LIST.

IN PARTICULAR, YOU WILL NOTICE ASH TREES ARE RECOMMENDED TO BE REMOVED, AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY DUE TO A PARASITE THAT HAS MADE ITS WAY INTO OUR REGION, WHICH IS A ASH BORE WORM OF SOME KIND, NOT A HORTICULTURIST OR A ZOOLOGIST, BUT APPARENTLY THIS PARASITE IS GOING AROUND AND KILLING ALL OF OUR ASH TREES.

JUST AN EFFORT TO BE PROACTIVE ON THIS.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE DEVELOPERS INSTALLING A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE GOING TO THEN BE KILLED BY THIS PARASITE AND REALLY JUST CAUSING AN UNSIGHTLY SITUATION.

WE DID ALSO MODIFY A COUPLE OF NAMES OF TREES AND REMOVE A COUPLE OF OTHER TREES.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE TREES THAT WERE IN THE LIST, PRIOR TO THESE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE STILL ON THE LIST TODAY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN A ROBUST LIST TO GIVE DEVELOPERS A LOT OF OPTIONS.

ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NOTICE AT THE TOP OF APPENDIX 1, WE ADDED SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT SAYS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, THE CITY HIGHLY ENCOURAGES PLANTING MULTIPLE TREE SPECIES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT TO INCREASE PLANT DIVERSITY AND MINIMIZE MONOTONY.

THIS WAS INTENTIONAL IN WORKING WITH THE TEXAS A&M STAFF.

THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE TRY TO TAKE MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP APPROACH, NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT FOR, IF YOUR PROPERTY IS THIS BIG, YOU NEED THIS MANY DIFFERENT SPECIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THAT COULD GET VERY DIFFICULT NOT JUST TO MANAGE FROM STAFF STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO PROPERTIES ARE ALL VERY DIFFERENT.

THERE'S DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.

YOU HAVE DIFFERENT SOIL CONDITIONS EVEN WITHIN ANNA SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO REALLY BE HEAVY HANDED.

WE WANTED TO TAKE MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP APPROACH TO

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TRY TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS AND WORK WITH THEM TO PLANT A WIDE RANGE AND DIVERSITY OF PLANS.

THEN ON APPENDIX 2, AGAIN, WE DID REMOVE AN ASH TREE FROM THE SHADE TREE LIST.

THEN FROM THE ORNAMENTAL TREE LIST, WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO REMOVE THE BRADFORD PEAR.

THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT CHALLENGES WITH BRADFORD PEARS.

THEY ARE A VERY FAST GROWING TREE.

THEY DON'T DO WELL IN STORMS. IT'S PRETTY COMMON WHEN WE HAVE HIGH WINDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT OR ICE STORMS LIKE WE TEND TO HAVE, BRADFORD PEARS A LOT OF TIMES WILL BE THE TREES THAT YOU WILL SEE LOSE STABILITY FIRST AND SPLIT OR BREAK APART.

IN ADDITION, DURING THE SPRINGTIME, WHEN THEY BLOOM, THEY CAN ALSO PROVIDE A SOMEWHAT FOUL ODOR THAT COMES FROM THE BLOOMS ON THE TREE SO JUST IN AN EFFORT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, WE DID RECOMMEND THAT AS WELL.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING FOR THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL ON THIS ITEM.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE WORDS HIGHLY ENCOURAGED VERSUS REQUIRE AND YOU JUST ADDRESSED THAT, BUT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE TREES THAT ARE ON THE APPROVED LIST, CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSIONS OR COUNCILMAN TOTEN HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS BROUGHT UP DURING ONE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS ON THE CALIBER OF THE TREES.

WAS THERE ANY CHANGES TO ANY OF THAT IN THIS PLAN?

>> WE DID NOT PROPOSE ANY CALIBER CHANGES.

BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ACTUALLY, OUR PARK CIP PLANNING DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, DAN WALKER ACTUALLY PURCHASED A GAUGE SO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING IS MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY MEASURE ALL THESE TREES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE AND THEN HOLDING DEVELOPERS ACCOUNTABLE.

BUT WHAT WE FOUND OUT IN SPEAKING WITH TEXAS A&M STAFF IS THAT THE SMALLER THE TREE IS, THE MORE LIKELY IT IS TO SURVIVE THE TRANSPLANTATION PROCESS.

WHAT THEY EXPLAINED TO US IS THAT AS A TREE GETS LARGER, IT GETS HARDER AND HARDER TO ACTUALLY PLANT IT IN A NEW PLACE AND GET IT TO HAVE THE ROOT BALL EXPAND AND BE IN GOOD HEALTH AND STAY ALIVE.

BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE TEXAS A&M FORESTRY SERVICE STAFF, WE DID NOT INCREASE THE CALIPER SIZES.

BUT INSTEAD, WHAT WE FEEL LIKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THAT CONCERN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN THREE INCH TREES, WE GO OUT THERE AND MEASURE BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THE THREE INCH TREES THAT WERE SPECIFIED.

>> MY LAST QUESTION. DID THEY HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AS REGARDS TO HOW THEY'RE TRANSPORTED, LIKE A BURLAP SACK VERSUS A POTTED CONTAINER? LIKE I'VE HEARD PROS AND CONS FROM THAT FROM SOME ARBORISTS ABOUT BURLAP SEEMS TO BE HARDER TO PENETRATE TO GET THE ROOT BALL TO GROW AND TAKE.

WHAT ARE OUR STANDARDS CURRENTLY FOR THAT AND WAS THAT DISCUSSED?

>> THAT WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED.

ACTUALLY BECAUSE THAT WASN'T A TOP OF DISCUSSION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT REGARDING IT BEING TRANSPORTED IN A BURLAP SACK VERSUS LIKE A LARGE CONTAINER I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT CURRENTLY.

WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT STAFF IS OPEN TO CONTINUING TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES, INCLUDING OUR TREE PRESERVATION AND LANDSCAPING ORDINANCES AND MAKING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FUTURE SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES ON IN THE FUTURE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> THE CHANGES ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT? IF SOMEBODY REALLY WANTED TO PUT AN ASH TREE OR THE PEAR TREE IN THERE, THEY STILL COULD REQUEST VARIANCE OR REQUEST TO DO IT, ARE WE SAYING THAT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. LAUREN, DO YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT? IF SOMEONE WANTED TO PLANT A TREE SPECIES THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST, COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WOULD BE?

>> SURE. IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED FOR A TREE THAT'S REQUIRED ON THE PROPERTY, AS FAR AS I'M THINKING OF ANNA ISD ADMIN BUILDING.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TREES ON THEIR PROPERTY AND IN ORDER TO MEET OUR MINIMUM STANDARDS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE TREES FROM OUR LIST.

AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE UPDATED THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN IN 2023, CITY COUNCIL HAD REMOVED THE PART WHERE ONCE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME HAS RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY,

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THAT IT NO LONGER HAS TO GET A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT AND NO LONGER HAS TO MAINTAIN THE TREES OTHER THAN WHAT YOUR HOA REQUIRES.

IF SOMEONE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED TO PLANT AN ASH TREE, THEY COULD.

BUT AS FAR AS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OR MULTI FAMILY, IT WOULD ONLY BE IF IT WAS IN EXCESS OF WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE.

>> SO IT CAN'T COUNT AS THE NUMBER THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR PLAN, BUT THEY CAN STILL USE THE TREES.

>> BUT IT DOES PROVIDE THE FLEXIBILITY FOR A PROPERTY OWNER.

IF YOU'RE A HUGE LOVER OF BRADFORD PEARS, DO YOU WANT TO PLANT.

>> IT MIGHT BE A ONE OFF SITUATION.

IT SAYS, OTHER SPECIES MAY BE ACCEPTABLE WITH APPROVAL FROM CITY MANAGER SO WE'RE SAYING TECHNICALLY, YOU COULD COME IN AND ASK FOR A GREEN ASH.

>> A LOT OF TIMES I GET REQUESTS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF MAPLE.

THAT'S A PRETTY COMMON REQUEST.

WE HAVE ONE TYPE OF MAPLE ON THE LIST, AND THEN SOMEONE WANTS THE RED ONE OR THE SILVER ONE, WHICHEVER ONE.

USUALLY I GO TO DALEN, WHO HAS MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I DO WITH LANDSCAPING, AND IF NOT HIM, THEN I TRY TO REACH OUT TO OTHER EXPERTS IN THE FIELD.

>> NO, THAT'S FAIR. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT SAYING THAT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE, GREEN ASH WE'RE STILL WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO STILL PRESENT IT BASED ON.

>> YOU'RE ASKING TO REMOVE THE ORNAMENTAL TREE, THE BRADFORD PEAR, AND THE SHADE TREE, THE ASH TREE.

THAT'S JUST A REMOVAL. YOU'RE NOT REPLACING THAT WITH ANYTHING ELSE ON THE LIST, YOU'RE NOT ADDING?

>> CORRECT. THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE FELT LIKE THAT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF OPTIONS ON THIS LIST.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DURING THIS PROCESS AS WELL AS WE WENT THROUGH TEXAS A&M FORESTRY SERVICE HAS ON THEIR WEBSITE.

THEY HAVE A TREE SELECTOR WEBSITE WHERE THEY'VE ACTUALLY GONE IN AND YOU CAN GO AND YOU CAN PUT YOUR AREA AND THAT'LL GIVE YOU THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT LISTS THAT THEY HAVE.

THEY HAVE THE QUICK AND DIRTY SHORT LIST, WHICH IS LIKE THESE TREES WILL GROW ANYWHERE IN YOUR AREA NO MATTER WHAT.

THEN THEY HAVE OTHER LISTS BASED ON YOUR SPECIFIC SOIL CONDITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT ALL OF THESE TREES ARE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED FOR THIS PART OF TEXAS AS BEING A STRONG CHOICE.

BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER TREES THAT MAY DO WELL IN CERTAIN SPECIFIC SCENARIOS.

BUT WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY TREES ON THIS LIST THAT HAD SOME VERY SPECIFIC SOIL NEEDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN A DEVELOPER GOES OUT AND PLANTS A BUNCH OF THEM BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'LL LOOK NICE.

BECAUSE LIKE ME, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT AN EXPERT ON TREES, AND SO THEN ALL THE TREES DIE.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LIST WAS VETTED WITH WHAT WILL GROW WELL HERE SO THAT'S WHY THE LIST IS WHAT IT IS.

BUT LIKE LAUREN SAID, WE DO TRY TO BE FLEXIBLE IF SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MAPLE OR SOMETHING UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORIZATION, WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:33 P.M. MR. CULBERTSON, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

>> YES, I DO. MY NAME IS STILL TERRELL CULBERTSON, AND I STILL LIVE AT 10429 COUNTY ROAD 289 IN ANNA.

MY NEIGHBOR AND GOOD FRIEND JANET SMITH HAS WRITTEN A VERY THOUGH DETAILED PAPER ON THE SCIENTIFIC REASONS WHY WE NEED TREES IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.

I HOPE THAT DOCUMENT HAS REACHED YOUR HANDS.

IF NOT, PLEASE GET A COPY OF THAT AND REVIEW IT.

MY CONCERN IS NOT THE TREES THAT ARE PLANTED IN THE DEVELOPMENTS, IS THE PRESERVATION OF THE TREES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE OBSERVED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WHEN I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THE DEVELOPERS DO WHEN THEY GET EQUIPMENT ON SITE IS THEY BULLDOZE DOWN EVERY TREE IN SITE.

WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE FINAL LANDSCAPE OR NOT, AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND TRY TO REPLACE SOME OF THOSE.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME EMPHASIS PLACED ON THE ACTUAL PRESERVATION OF THE TREES THAT ARE THERE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE CREEK BEDS AND SOME OF THE FENCED LINES, THAT MANY OF THESE TREES ARE HACKBERRIES.

I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD SOME BAD EXPERIENCES WITH HACKBERRIES,

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BUT THEY DO PROVIDE THEY GROW VERY LARGE, PROVIDE LOTS OF SHADE, PROVIDE LOTS OF CANOPY AND COVER.

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO PRESERVING SOME OF THE TREES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE AREAS THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS THE CREEK BEDS AND THE OPEN SPACE.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:36 P.M COMBINE COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER.

I THINK THE CHANGES THAT ARE MADE ARE NECESSARY CHANGES TO KEEP US IN LINE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE A DISCUSSION COME UP ON HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING TRANSPORTED AND HOW THEY'RE GETTING DONE.

COMING FROM CONSTRUCTION, I'VE SEEN BOTH DIFFERENT OUTCOMES WITH BURLAPS AND WITH PADDING AND PLANNING THEM DIRECTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BROUGHT UP IN THE FUTURE.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS, GUYS, IS THERE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER LONG MEYER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.

NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 18, PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE OAK RIDGE DEVELOPMENT. COME ON DOWN.

>> THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE PRESENTATIONS FOR YOU TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON BEFORE THEY GO TO CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF A PRE ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THIS FIRST ONE IS THE OAK RIDGE DEVELOPMENT.

>> IF YOU WILL, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IN THE COMPANY FOR THE RECORD.

>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS BRUCE FRENCH WITH TRI POINTE HOMES.

I HEAD UP OUR LAND ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT 6201 WEST PLANO PARKWAY, PLANO, TEXAS 75092.

TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO SHOW YOU THE COUPLE OF CONCEPT PLANS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRI POINTE HOMES HAS THE APPROXIMATELY 805 ACRES UNDER CONTRACT, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SELLER TO WORK ON A CONCEPT PLAN, AND IT'LL BE COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 13.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRI POINTE HOMES.

WE'RE A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY, NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE.

WE'VE BEEN IN DALLAS FORT WORTH MARKET FOR THE PAST 6.5 YEARS.

WE'VE GROWN QUITE A BIT THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF MOSTLY BUYING TRACKS OF LAND AND SELF DEVELOPING IT.

LAST YEAR, WE CLOSED 601 HOMES WITH THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE THROUGHOUT DALLAS FORT WORTH OF $520.

THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT UP IN ANNA.

WE ANTICIPATE THOSE TO BE THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE IN THE LOW TO MID 600 IS WHAT OUR INITIAL PLANS ARE LOOKING AT.

THIS IS A MAP WE'RE IN 15 MARKETS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

PRIMARILY, TRI POINTE HOMES GOES INTO HIGHLY AMENITIZED COMMUNITIES.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CREATIVE OPEN FLOOR PLANS, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL ENTERING THE DALLAS MARKET WITH THESE CONCEPTS.

THIS IS JUST A MAP SHOWING OUR CURRENT AND PROJECT COMING ONLINE.

>> THIS IS A MAP LOCATING THE 805 ACRES JUST WEST OF 75 ON FM 455 BISECTS IT.

I THINK EVENTUALLY THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION WITH TEXT THAT 455 BAGO EAST WEST THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND CAN BE THE MAJOR CORRIDOR OUT TO HIGHWAY 75.

AGAIN, 455 SPLITS THE PROPERTY NORTH AND SOUTH.

THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER THOROUGHFARE THAT GOES DO SOUTH THAT EVENTUALLY WILL LEAD INTO THE TRINITY FALLS MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.

APOLOGIZE FOR THE PRINT SIZE ON THIS.

BUT THE PROPERTY IS VERY UNIQUE, AND IT'S GOT SOME OPEN SPACE.

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IT'S BEEN AGRICULTURAL IN NATURE.

BUT IT'S ALSO GOT A COUPLE OF LARGE LAKES.

IT'S GOT LARGE CREEKS AND WITHIN THOSE LAKE AND CREEK AREAS THERE ARE SOME VERY LARGE TREES.

WE'VE PUTTING TOGETHER A CONCEPT PLAN TO PRESERVE TREES AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THIS IS A COUPLE OF AERIAL PHOTOS THAT WE'RE TAKING PRETTY RECENTLY, SHOWING THE OPEN MEADOW AREA AND THE TREE AREAS AND THE LARGE SOIL CONSERVATION LAKE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 455.

WE'VE MET WITH STAFF A COUPLE OF TIMES AND WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE MASTER CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE CITY OF ANNA, WEST OF 75.

WE'VE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE DESIRES THAT THE CITY OF ANNA WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THIS TRACT LAND SPECIFICALLY AND THEN AREAS WEST OF 75.

BECAUSE OF THE OPEN NATURE, WE WANT TO COORDINATE ALL OF OUR CONCEPT PLAN, LAND PLANS WITH NATURE, WITH A LOT OF OPEN TRAILS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A DESTINATION AND PROMOTED WITH VERY LARGE OPEN SPACES.

THERE'S A PLAN TO BE TWO AMENITIES CENTERS ON THE PROPERTY, A VARIETY OF WALKING TRAILS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS A BUBBLE PLAN.

YELLOW IS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

ALL OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE FOR SALE PRODUCT.

IT'S PROPOSED THAT THERE WILL BE A INTERSECTION OF 455 AND THE HARD CORNERS WOULD BE PRESERVED OUT FOR COMMERCIAL.

THERE'S ALSO AN AREA THAT'S POSSIBLY PROPOSED FOR TOWN HOMES, AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE FOR SALE.

THE LIGHT BLUE AREA IN THAT CORNER NEXT TO THE TOWN HOME SITE, THAT'S PROPOSED AS A FIRE STATION SITE.

WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME FOLLOW UP WITH THE ANNA IST ABOUT POSSIBLE SCHOOL SITE ON THIS PROPERTY.

THEN THIS LAYERS IN SOME ADDITIONAL MIXED LAND USES THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.

BUT AGAIN, PRESERVING A LOT OF THE LARGE AREAS THAT ARE OPEN SPACE AND NATURAL THROUGH THE LAKE AND THE CREEKS THAT RUN ALONG THE WEST AND EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

WITHIN THE CONCEPT PLAN, WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OF WALKING OF ANY HOME SITE WOULD BE A UNIT OF EITHER AN AMENITY CENTER OR A TRAILHEAD OF A TRAIL.

VERY OPEN AND WALKABLE, AND AGAIN, VERY MUCH TIED BACK TO THE NATURAL SETTING OF THE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, A MIXED USE OF TRAILS.

I'LL BE ALL THE WAY FROM CONCRETE WIDE TRAILS TO POSSIBLY DECOMPOSED GRANITE OR BARK TRAILS.

DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAILS ARE PROPOSED IN THE PROPERTY.

THESE ARE THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THAT WILL BE RUNNING THROUGH THE PROPERTY.

THEY'LL BE IMPROVED FOR ADDITIONAL ACCESS AND CIRCULATION.

THEN SOME TYPICAL PROPOSED LAND USES AROUND THE AMENITIES THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT AND THE POTENTIAL LIFESTYLE PICTURES.

THESE ARE SOME TYPICAL PICTURES THAT WE'VE HAD? TRI POINTE IS GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THE PROJECT.

THERE WILL PROBABLY BE A MINIMUM OF TWO, POSSIBLY THREE ADDITIONAL BUILDERS.

THEY'LL BE COMPARABLE TO TRI POINTE HOMES COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT TO PRESENT JUST FROM A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW AND APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE HOMES AND COLORS RIGHT THERE? THANKS. THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT IT MIGHT BE STAFF THAT HAS TO ANSWER IT.

BUT THE EQUESTRIAN HORSE RANCH, WHERE IS THAT AT? IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE CORRECT OF THIS MAP?

>> I BELIEVE IT'S TO WEST.

I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER.

>> A TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPIRIT SONG?

>> SPIRIT SONG.

>> SPIRIT SONG IS RIGHT HERE AND THEN THIS IS EAST FORT SUBDIVISION THAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THEN THERE'S ONE PROPERTY THAT SEPARATES THIS FROM CITY PARK HEIGHTS WEST.

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>> HOW'S MY QUESTION? ARE ANY OF THESE HOMES GOING TO BE ON LARGER LOT LINES? IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ABOUT THE SAME AS WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE HERE?

>> YEAH. THEY PROPOSED TO RANGE FROM AGAIN IN THE CORE, WHERE IT'S MORE LEVEL, OR FROM 40 FEET WITH ALLEYS, LARGEST LOTS AND THE CONCEPT PLAN IS EIGHT LINE.

THOSE WE USE AS BUFFERS AROUND THE PERIMETER, WHERE THERE'S MORE TOPOGRAPHY.

>> THE LARGEST LOT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS A QUARTER ACRE, BASICALLY?

>> NO.

>> 80 BY 130?

>> YES.

>> ROUGHLY A QUARTER ACRE, 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.

>> THAT WILL BE CORRECT.

>> IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU GUYS DON'T WANT TO PROPOSE ANY ONE ACRE LOTS, EVEN IF IT'S NEXT TO THE GREEN BELT OVER ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE? I DO APPRECIATE PUTTING THE LARGER 80 BY 30 ON THE ONE SIDE, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT WE'RE REALLY PICKING THAT CONCEPT UP ON THE NORTH OF 455 OR OVER ON THE WEST SIDE EITHER.

I ONLY SEE THEM ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE.

>> AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN.

>> I KNOW I ALREADY HEARD A COUPLE OF OUR SPEAKERS AND WHAT THEIR INPUT WAS.

WE WERE ALL PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE PUSHED WERE TO GET THOSE LARGER HOMES.

HERE, WE DO LISTEN, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL WANT TO SEE, AND THAT STARTS WITH YOU.

WELCOME TO THE PARTY. [LAUGHTER] BUT WE WILL TASK THAT WE WILL WANT TO SEE THAT.

WE HAVE SOME LARGER LOT HOMES, NOT JUST A QUARTER ACRE.

WE NEED SOMETHING MORE ENTICING TO DRAW IN OTHER PEOPLE FROM MOVING TO SHERMAN OR CHOOSING TO GO TO MCKINNEY OR ANY OF THE OUTLIERS, WE WANT THEM HERE.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

>> ANYBODY AS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK YOU GUYS DID A GOOD JOB OF PUTTING IN THAT GREEN BELT AND USING IT.

I THINK WE'D ALL SAY WE WANT TO HEAR A LOT MORE OF THE ONE ACRE LOTS AND WHATNOT.

BUT 70 BY 30 AND 80 BY 130 ARE STILL BIGGER THAN WE'VE GOT HERE.

I WOULD SAY, IF POSSIBLE, AS OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEST SIDE AS YOU GET IN THE MORE GREEN BELT, EVEN JUST ADDING MORE OF THE 70S AND 80S WOULD GO A LONG WAY AND APPEALING AND APPEASING MOST OF THE PEOPLE.

OF COURSE, ONE ACRE WOULD BE FANTASTIC, BUT 70S AND 80S DO A GREAT JOB, TOO.

>> SHARE WITH YOU THAT HOMES ON ONE ACRE LOTS IN THIS AREA ARE SELLING IN MATTER OF DAYS FOR $1 MILLION OR MORE.

THERE'S A DEMAND THAT IS NOT BEING MET.

YOU COULD BUILD $600,000 HOMES OR YOU COULD BUILD $1 MILLION HOMES.

LITERALLY THE QUARTER ACRE LOT IS WORTH A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR.

I WOULD ECHO EVERYBODY ELSE.

OUR 2050 PLAN LOOKS FOR THIS TO BE SUBURBAN LIVING.

WE WANT TO SEE SUBURBAN LIVING IN THAT PART OF TOWN.

I THINK IT COULD BE OF VALUE TO YOU.

>> ANYONE TO HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I GUESS WE CAN MOVE ON TO. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANKS FOR LISTENING TO US.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> MR. CULBERTSON, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ONE?

>> I'M OKAY.

>> LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 19, PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON CONCEPT PLAN FOR TRINITY CREEK DEVELOPMENT.

>> THIS ITEM IS ALSO A PRE-ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, TO BETTER WORRY TO YOU ON THIS ONE.

IT IS JUST NORTH OF CRYSTAL PARK DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S TO THE EAST OF THE PARKS AT HURRICANE CREEK TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT, SOUTH OF VILLAGES OF HURRICANE CREEK, THE ORIGINAL PORTION.

>> LAUREN, THERE IS NO PRE-DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE ON EITHER ONE OF THESE YET, CORRECT?

>> NO. THEY WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GIVING FEEDBACK ON RIGHT NOW.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RON RAMIREZ.

I'M PRESIDENT OF EVOLVING TEXAS.

03,000 RAY STREET IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS.

THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WORKING THROUGH DIFFERENT PLANNING ELEMENTS, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU TODAY JUST WHERE WE ARE AND THEN A COMPARISON OF THE OLD 2050 PLAN, AND NOW WE HAVE THIS NEW 2050 PLAN.

VERY SIMILAR.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW HERE.

TRY NOT TO BORE YOU TOO MUCH HERE.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THE PREVIOUS PROJECT, 327 ACRES.

IT'S JUST ON THE WEST SIDE OF ANNA ON THE BOUNDARY THERE.

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IT WILL REQUIRE AN ANNEXATION AND IT WILL BE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

WORKING WITH CITY STAFF, THE ELEMENTS OF THIS PROJECT ARE TAKEN SHAPE TO BE BASICALLY TWO SF TRACKS, IF YOU WILL, A MULTI FAMILY TRACT THAT WILL BE AGE RESTRICTED.

A COMMERCIAL TRACT, WHICH IS THAT SALMON COLOR IN THE MIDDLE.

THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST WHITE, WILL BE AN INDUSTRIAL TRACT, I1.

THAT'S A FOUR LETTER WORD. THESE ARE RENDERINGS PUT TOGETHER BY OUR PROJECT ARCHITECT.

TO JUST GIVE AN IDEA WHAT THE FEEL OF THESE ELEMENTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

UPPER LEFT IS THE RETAIL COMMERCIAL/RETAIL AREAS.

THEN, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE HOME LOOK.

THEN ON THE LOWER LEFT IS THE RENDERING FOR THE INDUSTRIAL TRACT, WHICH IS NOT INDUSTRIAL.

THERE'S NO MANUFACTURING PER SE.

IT'S MORE OF A FLEX SPACE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING AFTER.

I'LL GIVE YOU SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.

WHEN THE TEAM STARTED WORKING ON THE PLAN WITH CITY STAFF, THIS WAS THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THIS DOESN'T HAVE A POINTER, DOES IT? IT WAS A CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL TYPE ZONING.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS BACK THEN, OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMIT STILL.

NOW WE ARE COMBINATION OF THE SUBURBAN LIVING AND THE URBAN LIVING.

JUST A SMALL PIECE OF IT IS THAT URBAN LIVING.

IN OUR LAND PLAN, IT IS BASICALLY THAT COMMERCIAL TRACT IS WHERE THAT ZONING DESIGNATION MIGHT BE.

OUR PRIMARY USE FOR THE SINGLE SUBURBAN LIVING IS THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES WITH OF COURSE, OPEN SPACES NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE DO HAVE SOME TRAILS AND STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE INTO THIS.

THIS IS THE CURRENT MIX ON THAT LAND PLAN THAT YOU SAW.

WE WILL HAVE AN ELEMENT IN THE SINGLE FAMILY LIVING THAT ALSO WILL GIVE A TOWN HOME COMPONENT TO THAT GIVES MORE OF THAT URBAN FEEL TO IT.

WE WILL HAVE THE OBVIOUS THINGS A POCKET PARK, OPEN SPACE, A LONG LINEAR PARK, AND AN AMENITY CENTER, AND WE'LL HAVE CONNECTIVITY THROUGH WALKING TRAILS.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE HARD TO SEE AT THIS SCALE, BUT THE DARKER LINES WILL BE THE CONNECTIVITY TO BRING EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY TOGETHER, CONNECTING TO THE ACTIVITY CENTER.

ALSO CONNECTING TO THE AREAS WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN IS AND THE CREEKS, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WAYS TO INTEGRATE THE WALKING TRAILS INTO THAT NATURAL LOOK AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE FLOODPLAIN FOR ITS NATURAL USE.

THE COMMERCIAL TRACT, WE DON'T HAVE A LAND PLAN PER SE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD TO PREDICT AT THIS TIME, WHAT USERS WOULD BE COMING IN THERE.

BUT THE VISION IS SHOWN THERE IN THE RENDERING, AND THAT IS SET ASIDE.

HAS BEEN SINCE WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

WHENEVER YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY, YOU NEED THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL TO RUN DOWN AND GET SOME WITH A DIJON MUSTARD OR QUART OF MILK, WHATEVER YOU NEED.

WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT AS WELL AS MAYBE SOME EATING ESTABLISHMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S VERY FEW ZONING VARIANCES FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE PD, BUT THE UNDERLYING ZONING, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A WHOLE LOT.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS FITS NICELY IN THE BASE ZONING CATEGORIES.

IN OUR PHASE 1, THERE WILL BE SF 6.0 AND 7.0, WHICH FALLS IN LINE WITH THE SL ZONE OF THE URBAN 220.

THEN WE'LL HAVE A BIT LARGER IN SF2 ONLY.

THE TOWN HOMES IS THE DEVIATION FROM THAT.

AGAIN, THAT GIVES US THAT URBAN LOOK, THAT OFFSETS JUST THE DETACHED HOME.

THE MULTIFAMILY TRACT.

WE'VE TALKED WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES.

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WE PLAN TO RESTRICT IT TO SENIOR.

NOBODY ON THIS COUNCIL IS A SENIOR YET, BUT I AM.

[LAUGHTER] IT'LL BE AGE RESTRICTED.

ALSO, THERE MIGHT BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO SET ASIDE SOME OFFICES MAYBE, SOME SPECIAL CARE FACILITIES, DOCTORS, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WOULD COMPLIMENT THAT USE AS WELL.

STILL TO BE DETERMINED.

WE'RE STILL IN THE PLANNING STAGES OF THAT.

THE TRACT ON THE NORTH, I'VE BEEN CALLING THE INDUSTRIAL TRACT, IT WILL PROVIDE FOR THIS FLEX SPACE.

USE YOUR IMAGINATION THERE, BUT MAINLY, FINISH IS GOING TO BE UP TO THE TENANT, BUT TO COMBAT NUISANCES, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROHIBIT.

THIS IS IN THE IO1 ZONING.

WE WENT THROUGH HERE AND TOOK OUT OR GOING TO RESTRICT THE THINGS THAT WE FEEL WOULD NOT BE COMPLIMENTARY TO THE AREA AND TO THE CITY OF ANNA.

SOME ARE REALLY OBVIOUS BECAUSE I'M AN AVID GOLFER, BUT I DON'T THINK I CAN DESIGN A GOLF COURSE ON THAT ACREAGE.

>> THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE, AND NOT NECESSARILY NUISANCES, BUT WE JUST DON'T THINK THEY'D BE COMPLIMENTARY.

THE PARKING IS SET UP AT THIS POINT TO HAVE A 563 IN THE FIELD, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE NOT COVERED IN ANY WAY, 368 WITH GARAGE PARKING OF 195.

WE'RE STILL TALKING WITH STAFF ON EXACTLY HOW TO FORMULATE HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED AS THAT SPACE DEVELOPS OR TAKE SHAPE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WITH STAFF ABOUT ARE WE GOING TO USE I1 OR ARE WE GOING TO USE SOME DERIVATIVE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH RETAIL AND COME TO SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE.

THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY THERE TO BE DISCUSSED.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THAT'S A QUICK OVERVIEW OF TRINITY CREEK.

>> ON YOUR 60 BY 120, HOW MUCH ACREAGE IS THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S LESS THAN HALF AN ACRE, CORRECT?

>> THAT'S 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

YES, IT'S LESS THAN HALF AN ACRE, IT'S ABOUT A QUARTER.

>> 7,200 SQUARE FEET, THAT'S NOT A QUARTER.

>> IT'S LESS THAN A QUARTER.

>> YES, IT IS. DOUBLE-CHECK IN MY MATH.

I WAS DOING MATH WHILE YOU WERE PRESENTING HERE.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> SIX THOUSAND [INAUDIBLE].

>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PHOTO THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT HOUSING LAYOUTS AND WHERE THE TOWN-HOMES ARE IN YOUR MAP?

>> IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE HERE, BUT YOU SEE WHERE THE Y IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

LET'S START [INAUDIBLE]. THE [INAUDIBLE], WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL TRACT, AND THEN GO IMMEDIATELY SOUTH, AND THAT'S WHERE THE POCKET OF TOWN-HOMES WILL BE. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING.

>> SO YOU JUST START SMALLER, AND THEN AS YOU GET AWAY FROM WHITE STREET AND GO MORE IN INTO THERE, YOU TURN A LITTLE BIGGER.

>> EXACTLY RIGHT.

AS YOU GO SOUTH THE TOWN-HOMES, YOU GET TO THE AMENITY CENTER, WHICH IS THE CENTRAL LOCATION TO PULL BOTH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES TOGETHER. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'M GOING TO BE HONEST. I'M NOT A FAN OF THE MULTI-FAMILY TRACK THAT'S ON HERE OFF OF WHITE STREET.

>> IT'S JUST SOUTH OF WHITE STREET.

>> I'M GOING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT I'M GOING TO REPEAT THE SAME THING I JUST SAID TO THE LAST PRESENTER.

I WANT TO SEE LARGER HOMES THAN WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED HERE.

I WOULD AT LEAST TASK YOU ALL TO TRY TO DO HALF-ACRE LOTS.

IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT FEASIBLE OR WITHIN YOUR MEANS TO DO ONE-ACRE LOTS, THEN THERE HAS TO BE SOME, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR?

>> COMPROMISE.

>> COMPROMISE. THANK YOU. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING.

YOU'LL HAVE TO PRESENT SOMETHING.

I DO APPRECIATE THE AMENITY CENTER.

THE RESIDENTS WILL LOVE THAT.

BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE A COMPROMISE THAT ALSO BRINGS IN EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY.

WE WON'T USE THE AMENITY CENTER, BUT WE LOVE GREEN SPACES, ARE THOSE GOING TO BE OPEN TO PUBLICS? LARGER LOT HOMES IS SOMETHING THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS.

IF I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY HAVE ONE HERE, I MIGHT SELL MY HOUSE ON WEST CROSSING AND I MIGHT MOVE OVER THERE.

BUT IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT'S OFFERED RIGHT NOW, AND I REALLY WANT TO SEE THAT.

I WANT TO SEE THE LARGER HOMES AND

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LESS OF THE MULTI-FAMILY ALSO BEING ADDED IN WHENEVER WE HAVE A DEVELOPER COME IN FRONT OF US.

I'M NOT REALLY FOLLOWING WHAT THE PLAN IS AND WHY EVERYONE HAS TO THROW A MULTI-FAMILY ASPECT ONTO A DEVELOPMENT.

IS THERE SOME UNWRITTEN RULE WHERE THAT HAS TO BE ADDED TO YOU-ALLS DEVELOPMENTS? WHY CAN'T WE JUST COME IN WITH A NICE DEVELOPMENT THAT OFFERS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THAT OFFERS THE LARGER HOMES? I'M NOT A DEVELOPER. I'M ASKING YOU.

>> WELL, HOW TO ANALYZE DEVELOPMENT IN ANY CITY IS, WE COULD SIT DOWN OVER CUP COFFEE AND I WEAR YOU OUT WITH ALL KINDS OF THOUGHTS, BUT THE THINGS, OF COURSE, THE NUMBER ONE IS, IS THERE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT? THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG, BIG FACTOR.

BUT THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT TO COME IN AND ENRICH THE COMMUNITY HOWEVER WE DO IT.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE VELOCITY OF SALES.

I APPRECIATE THAT BIGGER HOMES ARE GOING TO FETCH MORE MONEY, THAT'S CORRECT, BUT IT GOES BACK TO THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

THEN THE MORE CUSTOM HOMES YOU GET, THERE IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUILDER.

WE HAD TO HAVE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

THOSE THINGS OFF TOP OF MY HEAD, THE BIGGEST ONE IS VELOCITY, I THINK, JUST HOW FAST CAN YOU SELL LOTS, THEN THAT GETS THE HOME BUILD ITSELF SO THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN EXIT OUT AND THEN LEAVE THE HOW TO RUN ITSELF AND THEN BE GONE.

SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT COULD BE AS QUICK AS FIVE YEARS, IT COULD BE AS LONG AS 12 YEARS. IT'S HARD TO SAY.

OF COURSE, WITH THE ECONOMY AND INTEREST RATES IT ALL DRIVES THAT.

IT'S LIKE TAKING A DART AND TRY TO HIT A BULL'S EYE THAT'S TAPED TO A SPEEDING TRAIN AND TRY TO HIT IT.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET AN EXACT EQUATION FOR THAT.

BUT THOSE ARE THE ELEMENTS YOU LOOK AT.

THERE'S A RETURN ON INVESTMENT, THERE'S THE VELOCITY OF SALES IN THE AREA.

WE LOOK AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE CLOSE BY OR PLANNED COMMUNITIES EVEN.

IF WE GET IT REALLY DETAILED AND GRANULAR, WE CAN EVEN LOOK TO SEE HOW MANY PLATS HAVE BEEN FILED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

IF THERE ARE ANY VACANCIES THERE OR VACANT DEVELOPED LOTS, VDLS, THAT GIVES US AN INDICATION OF THE VOLUME OF SALES.

IT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER CORRECTLY.

>> I KNOW IT'S A TONGUE TWISTER, TRYING TO ANSWER THAT ONE.

YOU MENTIONED HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH BUILDERS.

DO YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A BUILDER THAT BUILDS THE ONE-ACRE AND HALF-ACRE LOT HOMES?

>> NOT ANY ONE BUILDER, NO. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'LL JUMP IN HERE. YOU CAN PROBABLY LOOK MY TRACK RECORD VOTING UP THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT I'LL SAY I LIKE THIS IDEA.

ON BOTH SIDES OF YOUR PROJECT, NORTH AND SOUTH, FROM WHITE STREET, ALL THE WAY OVER TO 75 IS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL ANYWAY, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A REAL HARD TIME SELLING ANYTHING BIGGER THAN THAT.

IN MY OPINION, I LIKE THAT YOU GO BIGGER AS YOU GO AWAY.

ALL THAT TO HER THOUGHTS. THE MULTI-FAMILY THERE FEELS A LITTLE ODD TO ME.

I UNDERSTAND YOU NEED TO MAKE IT.

I'D BE CURIOUS ON WHAT YOU COULD DO TO MAKE IT AN APPEALING AREA, ESPECIALLY AS THE OTHER PROJECT WE LOOKED AT AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS IN THAT AREA ARE GOING TO BE A LOT BIGGER.

HOPEFULLY, BIGGER LOTS, BIGGER HOMES, SO THAT COULD BE PIVOTAL AS TO HELPING THE COMMUNITY OR NOT.

I DO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SENIOR LIVING THOUGH, SO INDIFFERENT, BUT I'LL SAVE THE REST OF IT.

THE PIECE ON THE TOP, THE INDUSTRIAL TRACT, IT JUST LOOKS BUSY.

I GET IT. IT'S ELECTRICAL WIRES RUNNING UP THERE, WHERE IT'S PRETTY MUCH DEAD AREA.

>> CORRECT.

>> THEN YOU HAVE WATER, LOOKING AT THIS, YOU'VE GOT AMENITY CENTER AND A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BUTTS UP CLOSE TO IT.

IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOUND RESTRICTIVE OR BARRIERS OF SOME SORT TO KEEP IT OUT OF THE TREE LINE OR KEEP THE NOISE DOWN?

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA?

>> YEAH. JUST ON THE VERY NORTH PART?

>> WELL, IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE RIGHT OF WAY WEST WHITE.

A LIVE SCREEN IS A POTENTIAL.

THAT WOULD ALSO SCREEN [OVERLAPPING].

>> NOT THE WHITE STREET. I MEAN, THE VERY NORTH PART WHERE YOU RUN THE ELECTRICAL AND YOU RUN INTO THAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE ISN'T THAT BUTTON UP TO [OVERLAPPING]?

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AREA THAT IS BY THE ELECTRIC [INAUDIBLE]?

>> YEAH.

>> YOUR QUESTION IS, CAN THERE BE A BUFFER THERE? SURE. I THINK SO.

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>> IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO USE THE FLOODPLAIN TO ACT AS A BIGGER BUFFER BECAUSE THAT FLOODPLAIN RUNS PRETTY WIDE, SO YOU'RE USING THAT AS A NATURAL SOUND BARRIER IN THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> THE MULTIFAMILY IS SLATED TO BE 55 PLUS?

>> YES.

>> YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT STUDIES.

YOU'VE DONE THE STUDY THAT SHOWED THAT THERE WOULD BE A DEMAND.

LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF UNITS.

>> YOU NOTICE THERE'S NOT A LAND PLAN FOR IT YET, SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A COUNT.

BUT THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED WORKING WITH CITY STAFF SO FAR AS BEING THAT MULTI-FAMILY IS NOT POPULAR, IN GENERAL, AND MOST COMMUNITIES ARE THAT WAY, UNLESS THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND FOR IT.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT WAS A TRADE-OFF, BUT WE THINK, AGAIN, TO COMPLIMENT THE AREA IF WE'RE RESTRICTED TO SENIOR LIVING OR AGE-RESTRICTED, BETTER TERM, THAT'S AN OFFSET TO YOU DON'T GET THE LESS DESIRABLE TRAITS IN THE AREA.

BUT AS FAR AS HOW MANY UNITS ARE GOING TO BE THERE, I CAN ROUGHLY TELL YOU IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 10 UNITS PER ACRE.

>> I'M SORRY, HOW MANY?

>> TEN-ISH.

>> IT WOULD BE ONE STORY FOR SENIORS?

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO STORY.

>> TWO STORY DOESN'T REALLY WORK FOR SENIOR LIVING VERY WELL. FOR MANY SENIORS.

>> IT'S AGE-RESTRICTED.

>> WHAT DOES AGE-RESTRICTED MEAN?

>> AGE-RESTRICTED IS YOU HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN AGE.

>> FIFTY-FIVE PLUS.

>> FIFTY-FIVE PLUS.

>> OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION, SO I'M GOING TO ECHO ABOUT THE LARGER LOTS. YOU'VE HEARD IT.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP SAYING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IN THIS PART OF TOWN.

THE OTHER THING IS TREES.

THERE'S SOME TREES IN THAT AREA.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WOULD LITERALLY DO, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID EARLIER, WOULD CLEAR CUT IT TO GET THIS MANY LOTS IN THERE.

WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR TREE PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING TREES?

>> ANNA HAS A TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

>> WE WOULD FOLLOW THAT, NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, IN THE AREAS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO PRESERVE THEM, WE'D FLAG THEM OFF AND STAY AWAY FROM THEM.

I LOVE TREES TOO. [INAUDIBLE] WITH TREES.

>> WHO DOESN'T?

>> BUT I'VE SEEN AREAS THAT IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE AND THEN BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE GOOD ENGINEERING.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT? YES, WE ALL LOVE THE TREES, THAT'S A GIVEN.

IF WE CAN SAVE THEM ALL, WE'LL SAVE THEM ALL.

BUT WHEN YOU ARE SETTING STREET GRADE, THEN YOU HAVE TO GRADE PADS AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE PADS DRAIN CORRECTLY SO THAT THE HOME DOESN'T GET WET AND CAUSE ANOTHER TYPE OF NUISANCE.

NOTHING [INAUDIBLE] STAYS WET FOR LONG.

THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND DESIGN CRITERIA, ALL THOSE THINGS WORK TOGETHER.

THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TREES THAT JUST WON'T SURVIVE EVEN IF YOU DO BECAUSE YOU'VE CUT INTO THE ROOT SYSTEMS OR YOU HAVE ROADWAYS THAT GET TOO CLOSE TO THE [INAUDIBLE], SO IT'S A TRADE-OFF.

WHAT DO WE PRESERVE? WE IDENTIFY THEM UPFRONT? AS AN ENGINEER, I'M LOOKING AT NOT ONLY THE BALANCE OF COST AND EFFECTIVENESS, BUT ALSO WHAT'S THE VALUE WE'RE ADDING TO THE COMMUNITY? WHAT'S THE VALUE WE'RE ADDING TO THE PROJECT? OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN SAVE SOME HISTORIC TREES OR SIGNIFICANT TREES [INAUDIBLE] CALL THEM SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

>> DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA, THE OTHER GENTLEMAN SAID HIS HOUSES WOULD BE IN THE 600? WHAT DO YOU PLAN HERE?

>> FOR SINGLE FAMILIES.

>> FOR THE SINGLE FAMILIES.

>> SAY IT AGAIN, I'M SORRY.

>> THE PRICE RANGE ON THESE HOMES?

>> I DON'T THINK THEY'RE THAT HIGH.

WELL, LET ME BACK UP.

AS PART OF THIS, WE'RE WORKING WITH A PID CONSULTANT [INAUDIBLE] PID DISTRICT FOR THIS.

I THINK THE NUMBER ON AVERAGE IS 364,000, I BELIEVE.

THAT SOUNDS RATHER EXACT [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'M GOING TO PICK ON YOU BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU WERE FROM FORT WORTH, CORRECT?

>> SURE.

>> I LOVE FORT WORTH.

I THINK FORT WORTH HAS A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT ARE UNIQUE, THAT MAKE IT UNIQUE, THAT MAKE PEOPLE LEAVE FROM DFW TO GO THERE ON THE WEEKENDS AND TO TRAVEL EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY AN HOUR AWAY.

I WOULD LOVE TO CHALLENGE YOU GUYS TOO TO BRING SOME OF THE FORT WORTH ASPECT OVER HERE.

ANNA IS VERY UNIQUE, WE'LL ALWAYS BE UNIQUE,

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AND WE WANT TO STAY THAT WAY.

IS THERE NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO IN LIEU OF A MULTI-FAMILY THAT BRINGS IN SOME MORE RUSTIC VIBES? YOU ARE IN A SPOT WHERE WE HAVE OUR LARGER HOMES WHERE PEOPLE OWN 10-PLUS ACRES OVER THERE IN THAT AREA.

CAN YOU BRING SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT'S IN THE COMMERCIAL TRACK THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING, THAT CAN HELP ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE OR HELP ALL OF US, IN GENERAL, BRING SOMETHING UNIQUE? WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE COME FROM GUNNER OR TO COME FROM ANY OF THE HOWLS AND ALL OF THAT TO COME HERE BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING RIGHT HERE ON YOUR COMMERCIAL TRACK THAT DRIVES THEM HERE.

THAT BRINGS BUSINESS, THAT BRINGS MONEY, THAT BRINGS THE TAXES BEING PAID.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.

I THINK YOU ALL ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.

>> I'LL DISCUSS THAT WITH MY CLIENT.

I'LL REMIND HIM THAT I'M ALSO A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN.

I DON'T THINK BILLY BOB'S EAST IS OUT OF THE QUESTION.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I LIKE THE COUNTRY DANCE, I WOULDN'T RULE IT OUT, BUT I'M DEFINITELY THINKING, LIKE MS. SHARP SAID, BRINGING SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY NEEDS THAT WILL NOT ONLY SERVE US, BUT SERVICE OTHER SMALLER COMMUNITIES AROUND US THAT JUST AREN'T AT THE IMPACT OF GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW FOR US.

>> TO THAT END, WE WANT TO BLESS THIS COMMUNITY.

WE HOPE THAT THIS PROJECT BLESSES THE COMMUNITY AND WORKING TOGETHER IS ONE WAY TO SOLVE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THERE ISN'T A LAND PLAN FOR EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO TRACKS IS BECAUSE STILL THERE'S SO MANY OPTIONS, IS ONE THING.

IF WE KNEW THAT WE HAD A LIST OF 10 RESTAURANTS AND/OR VENDORS THAT WERE COMING, THEN IT'S NO LONGER BUILT TO SUIT OR SPEC.

BY THE SAME TOKEN, I THERE SOMETHING THE CITY OF ANNA HAS ITS EYES ON, OR IS THERE SOMETHING ON THEIR WISH LIST THAT THE STAFF CAN GIVE US, THEN WE CAN SEE ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

BUT THERE IS NOT A DIRECT PLAN FOR THOSE TWO AREAS.

DOES THAT HELP?

>> YEAH, IT DOES.

>> WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE MORE AND MORE MEETINGS WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

I THINK I SAW HIM. HE WAS HERE, WASN'T HE?

>> YEAH, BERNIE WAS HERE.

>> ALL WE CAN DO IS TAKE IN AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS SET IN STONE AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE NOT EVEN IN THE CITY LIMITS YET.

>> DID YOU SAY YOU WORK ON THE PID CONSULTANT, IS IT PID CONTINGENT?

>> THERE IS THERE IS A PID DOCUMENT PREPARED AS PART OF THE [INAUDIBLE].

>> I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANKS FOR LISTENING.

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER COURSE OF BUSINESS OR ANY NEW INFORMATION ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MENTION? THERE'S ONLY A FEW OF US, BUT LET'S FINISHED.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER COURSE OF BUSINESS, I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 7:13 PM. THANK YOU, GUYS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.