>> PROBABLY NOT. GOOD EVENING.
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THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]
THIS MEETING IS GETTING STARTED RIGHT NOW.THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANNA WILL MEET IT ON JANUARY 28TH, 2025 AT 7:00 PM IN THE ANNA MUNICIPAL COMPLEX COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 120 WEST SEVENTH STREET TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK AT AN OPEN SESSION AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT THE OPINION SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM AND TURN IT INTO THE CITY, SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
FOR ROLL CALL, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ARE PRESENT.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO STRAIGHT INTO NEIGHBORS COMMENTS.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING UNDER REGULAR NEIGHBORS' COMMENTS IN THESE CARDS, BUT I DO WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
GOOD. NAME THE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM ON THIS MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
ALSO AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THIS MEETING AGENDA.
EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC INFORMATION.
IN RESPONSE TO A CITIZENS INQUIRY OR RECITE EXISTING POLICY TO THE INQUIRY.
I HAVE NO CARDS ON THAT FOR THE NIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER 3 REPORTS. DO I HAVE ONE?
>> TAKE THAT BACK. I DO HAVE MANY SINGH.
IS THIS ON 60 DEER IS THIS JUST FOR REGULAR 60? THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE IN REPORTS.
[3. Reports.]
RECEIVE REPORTS FROM THE STAFF OR THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT COMMUNITY INTEREST. ANYTHING? ANYONE?>> I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE ABOUT THE OPEN HOUSE ON FEBRUARY 2ND AT RATON ELEMENTARY FROM 6:00-8:00 TO SHARE THEIR INPUT ON THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
THERE'S ALSO AN ONLINE SURVEY FROM FEBRUARY 4TH-14TH TO CAN'T MAKE IT IN PERSON, AND THIS DOES INCLUDE EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ETJ.
>> THE SIXTH. I THOUGHT YOU SAID THE SECOND. I'M SORRY.
>> ITEM NUMBER 4 WORK SESSION,
[4. Work Session]
ITEM A RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM UPDATE, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, TAYLOR LAW.>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNSEL, TAYLOR LAW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ALONG WITH MIKE WARLAND COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE MANAGER.
PLEASED TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON THE RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM THIS EVENING FOR YOU.
THE PROGRAM BEGAN IN 2020 AND IS ADMINISTERED BY THE COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE TEAM, WHICH IS A DIVISION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT CECS MISSION IS TO WORK WITH ALL NEIGHBORS TO ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE ANNA A HEALTHIER, SAFER, MORE BEAUTIFUL CITY FOR EVERYONE.
THERE ARE SIX MEMBERS OF THE CEC TEAM AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS. LAST YEAR, THE CODE TEAM CLOSED ALMOST 4,000 CASES.
THEY INSPECT EVERY FOOD ESTABLISHMENT WITHIN THE CITY ANNUALLY AND UPON COMPLAINT.
THEY ARE STUDYING AND SURVEYING THEN TESTING FOR MOSQUITOES AND WORK WITH COLLIN COUNTY ON ANIMAL SERVICES AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS.
THE CEC ENGAGES REGULARLY WITH NEIGHBORS THEY ARE OUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, AS YOU SAW EARLIER THIS EVENING, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY BUILT HERE TRAILER, BLOCK PARTY TRAILER, AND OTHER RENTAL PROGRAMS FOR NEIGHBORHOODS, WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD EDUCATION AND LEADERSHIP PROGRAMS. FINALLY, WHILE WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, THE RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
THEY'RE VERY BUSY AND WE APPRECIATE THEM VERY MUCH.
THE RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM WAS CREATED TO ENHANCE HOUSING QUALITY AND SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THROUGH COMPLIANCE OR ENSURING ADHERENCE TO HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARDS, THROUGH RELATIONSHIPS, BY COLLABORATING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, MANAGERS, TENANTS, AND EDUCATION BY EMPOWERING OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND WITH NECESSARY RESOURCES ABOUT SAFE HOUSING.
THE ORDINANCE IS ARTICLE 4.08.
RENTAL HOUSING WAS ADOPTED IN DECEMBER OF 2019 AND THE PROGRAM KICKED OFF IN 2020.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, NO PERSON SHALL OWN, OPERATE, LEASE, RENT, OR MAINTAIN A RENTAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY WITHOUT FIRST REGISTERING.
THERE'S A DEFINITION ON RENTAL PROPERTY.
THERE'S A DEFINITION ON MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS
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AND RENTAL PROPERTIES AS WELL WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.THE DEFINITION IS VERY CLEAR, IT'S SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX OR FOR MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING.
THAT WHETHER IT'S A LONG TERM RENTAL, SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHETHER IT'S UNDER 30 DAYS OR MORE THAN 30 DAYS.
IF THEIR INTENT, IF IT'S BEING LEASED OR RENTED OR THE INTENDED TO BE LEASED OR RENTED, IT NEEDS TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OF ANNA.
HOW DO WE GO ABOUT IDENTIFYING RENTALS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? IF YOU'RE NOT REGISTERING FOR YOURSELF OR YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS PROGRAM JUST YET.
OFTEN, IF THE UTILITY BILLING ACCOUNT DIFFERS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, THOSE THAT ARE PAYING THE UTILITIES ARE NOT THE SAME AS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S USUALLY A GOOD INDICATION, WE'LL REACH OUT ASKING THEM TO REGISTER.
IF THERE'S A FOUR LEASE OR FOUR RENT SIGN IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE REVIEWING EACH OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY AND ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK.
THEY'LL MAKE NOTE OF THAT AND MAKE CONTACT.
ADVERTISEMENTS ARE LISTINGS, ADVERTISING A PROPERTY FOR RENTAL ON WEBSITES LIKE ZILLOW OR REALTOR.COM OR APARTMENTS FOR RENT.COM.
IT'S USUALLY A GOOD INDICATION THAT THE PROPERTY IS INTENDED TO BE RENTED.
INFORMATION WITH THE COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, WHEN THE MAILING ADDRESS MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN THE PHYSICAL PROPERTY ADDRESS, IS A GOOD INDICATION.
ALSO, WE'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS OR CALLS FROM NEIGHBORS THEMSELVES, WHETHER THEY'RE RENTING OR THEIR NEIGHBORS RENTING, LETTING US KNOW THAT.
ONCE WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE RENTAL, WE'VE SENT NOTICE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REGISTER, AND THE REGISTRATION ENDS EACH CALENDAR YEAR ON DECEMBER 31ST.
THE REGISTRATION ENSURES THAT WE HAVE ACCURATE OWNERSHIP INFORMATION SHOULD THERE BE AN ISSUE WITH THE PROPERTY, ANOTHER CONCERN, AND SO WE CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH THEM OR THEIR LANDLORD OR PROPERTY MANAGER.
WE SEND REMINDERS EVERY NOVEMBER, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO REGISTER BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR ANNUALLY.
LAST YEAR, WE HAD 2,401 PROPERTIES THAT WERE REGISTERED, AND THEY WERE REMINDED AGAIN, THERE'S THIS PAST NOVEMBER TO REGISTER.
THE GROWTH IN THE REGISTERED PROPERTIES HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY YEAR OVER YEAR WITH ONLY 782 PROPERTIES REGISTERED IN 2022, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, A LITTLE OVER 1,500 REGISTERED THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND AGAIN, UP TO 2,401 THIS PAST YEAR.
WHEN THEY'RE FIRST REGISTERED, WE SCHEDULE THE HOME FOR AN INSPECTION WHEN IT IS VACANT.
IF WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT OR INVITED BY THE LANDLORD, THE OWNER, OR THE TENANT, WE CAN ALSO DO AN INSPECTION.
THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT WE DO ANNUALLY FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS, SO WE'RE NOT INSPECTING EVERY WEEK IF THERE IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL OR IF THERE'S A CHANGE IN TENANCY.
THE REINSPECTION MAY BE REQUIRED IF THERE ARE SAFETY DEFICIENCIES, IF WE NEED TO COME BACK AND CONFIRM THAT WHAT WAS NOT COMPLETED IS COMPLETED.
WE'RE CHECKING FOR LIFE SAFETY THINGS LIKE SMOKE ALARMS. THERE'S NO TRIP HAZARDS THAT ELECTRICAL COVERS ARE PROVIDED.
THERE'S QUALITY UTILITIES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SIMILARLY, WE HAVE A MULTIFAMILY PROGRAM, AGAIN LISTED ALSO IN ARTICLE 4.08.
INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER OF REGISTERED PROPERTIES ARE MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS.
THESE REFER TO A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE CONTAINING THREE OR MORE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS WHICH ARE LEASE OR RENTED OR AGAIN INTENDED TO BE LEASED OR RENTED TO ANOTHER PERSON.
THE TERM ALSO INCLUDES THOSE ACCESSORY BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES FOR HUMAN OCCUPANCY.
CEC HAS BEGUN INSPECTING AT LEAST 10% OF THE UNITS WITHIN MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS THAT ARE MORE THAN FIVE-YEARS-OLD.
STAFF GIVES THE PROPERTY MANAGER PLENTY OF TIME THAT THEY'LL BE AN INSPECTION AT LEAST THREE DAYS NOTICE, MANY TIMES MORE.
THEN THE MANAGERS OF THAT PROPERTY CAN NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS IF THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE AN OPTIONAL INSPECTION OR IF THEIR UNIT WILL BE INSPECTED.
THEN THEY'RE GIVEN THE OPTION IF THEY WOULD LIKE STAFF TO ALSO INSPECT.
CURRENTLY, THERE ARE FIVE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES UNDER ANNUAL INSPECTION, ACCORDING TO THEIR AGES.
THE APARTMENT UNITS AT THE ANNA CROSSING MOBILE HOME PARK, ALSO ALONG STATE HIGHWAY FIVE TO THE EAST ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, AS WELL AS THE CUNNINGHAM MOBILE HOME PARK AND PALLADIUM APARTMENTS.
THOSE ARE ALL DUE FOUR, AND WILL BE INSPECTED THIS YEAR.
UPCOMING IN 2029, ACCORDING TO THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, WHEN THEY ARE OPENED, PALMORE AND PALLADIUM EAST FOSTER CROSSING WILL FIRST BE INSPECTED AGAIN IN FOUR YEARS.
UNLESS THERE'S AN ISSUE OR COMPLAINT,
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I'LL MAKE NOTE, WE COULD INSPECT BEFORE THEN.UPCOMING, THE QUINN, THE GRAND YARDLEY TOWN CENTER AND THE COTTAGES AT LINDSEY PARK, IF THEY GET THEIR CO THIS YEAR.
WITHIN FIVE YEARS WE WOULD THEN ALSO BE INSPECTING THOSE PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, UNLESS RECEIVING A REQUEST BY A TENANT OR PROPERTY OWNER.
WE'LL ALSO BE WORKING TO MAKE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, MAKING CONTACT WITH PROPERTY MANAGERS, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT BE DOING THE ANNUAL INSPECTION AS THESE PROPERTIES ARE OPENING, WE'RE MAKING CONTACT WITH THEM, PROVIDING THEM RESOURCES, CONNECTING THEM WITH OTHER STAFF MEMBERS, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT CITY PROGRAMS OR WAYS THAT WE CAN CONNECT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS.
WITH THE START OF THE PROGRAM TO COVER THE COST, THERE WAS AN ANNUAL REGISTRATION FEE WAS SET AT $100 PER YEAR.
DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 9TH IN 2022, THE ANNUAL REGISTRATION FEE WAS PROPOSED TO BE INCREASED FROM $100-$250.
THOSE CHANGES WOULD REPRESENTED THE FEES THAT THEY WOULD BE REVENUE NEUTRAL.
IT WOULD FAIRLY COMPENSATE THE CITY FOR THE COST INCURRED FOR THE SERVICES PROVIDED.
ON OCTOBER 1ST OF 2022, THE FEE WAS INCREASED TO THE CURRENT $300.
YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN FOR SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY AND THE MOBILE HOME PARKS AS WELL.
SHOULD A PROPERTY OWNER DECIDE NOT TO PAY OR REGISTER FOR THE PROPERTY.
IF WE ARE VERY SURE THAT IT IS A RENTAL AND WE HAVE PROOF TO DO SO, WE WILL SEND THEM A CITATION BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THEY REGISTER.
AT WHICH POINT, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND PAY THE CITATION, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF $381 WITH THE FEES INCURRED, OR THEY CAN CHOOSE TO GO VISIT WITH THE JUDGE.
AT THAT POINT, JUDGE LISTEN OR JUDGE BELTZ CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER OR NOT TO DO WITH THAT.
AS OF TODAY, THERE'S ABOUT 90 OUTSTANDING CITATIONS FOR FAILURE TO REGISTER, WHILE WE DO SEND THOSE ANNUAL REMINDERS EVERY NOVEMBER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WE'RE FINDING NEW RENTAL PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF REGISTERED PROPERTIES, ABOUT 50% YEAR OVER YEAR.
WHERE DO WE FALL WITH IN OTHER CITIES? WHAT OTHER PROGRAMS ARE GOING ON IN COLLIN COUNTY? FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS, WHAT I'D CALL LONG TERM RENTAL, THEY'RE RELATIVELY NEW.
SALINA HAS A SIMILAR PROGRAM TO OURS.
THEY CHARGE ABOUT $50 FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
SACHSY PROGRAMS JUST BEGINNING.
THEY DO NOT CHARGE A FEE AT THIS TIME AND WYLIE IS CURRENTLY EVALUATING PROGRAMS. WE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMILAR IS ON A SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THESE PROGRAMS FOR ALLEN, FRISCO, MURPHY, AND PLANO ARE VERY CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH OUR PROGRAM.
AGAIN, OURS DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE LENGTH OF THE LEASE OR THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THOSE RENTING AND OWNING THE PROPERTY.
FOR MULTIFAMILY SIMILARLY, WE FALL VERY SIMILAR OUR FEES ARE $25 PER UNIT WITH THE $300 MINIMUM.
AGAIN, VERY COMMON WITHIN COLLIN COUNTY CITIES FOR A MULTIFAMILY REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
IN SUMMARY, THE RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM IS MAINTAINING ITS OBJECTIVES TO ENSURE A SAFER HEALTHIER HOUSING IN ANNA.
THE ANNUAL REGISTRATION ENSURES COMPLIANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE FEES ARE ALIGNED WITH REGIONAL STANDARDS.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TO EDUCATE AND INFORM OUR NEIGHBORS, WHETHER THEY ARE OWNER, A MANAGER, A TENANT AS THE CITY GROWS, WITH THAT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
HOW DO YOU KEEP UP WITH WHICH INSPECTIONS YOU'VE DONE AND WHICH ONES YOU HAVEN'T?
>> WE LOG ALL OUR INSPECTIONS IN OUR SYSTEM UNDER OUR SMART GOV SYSTEM IN THE NOTES.
LIKE SHE SAID, WHEN WE GET NOTIFIED OF A VACANT PROPERTY OR A NEW RENTAL PROPERTY, WE'RE INSPECTING ALL VACANT PROPERTIES AND WE NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNER BY EMAIL AND THROUGH THE PORTAL WITH THIS INSPECTION DETAILS.
IT IS PRETTY TOUGH AT TIMES IF THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD TO REACH OUT TO US BECAUSE WE DO PUT IT ON THE PROPERTY OWNER, IF THERE'S A CHANGE IN TENNESSEE TO REACH OUT TO US AT THAT TIME, TO DO A RE-INSPECTION.
>> IS THE MONEY THAT IS COLLECTED FOR THE RENTAL REGISTRATION, IS THAT BUDGETED IN THE CITY BUDGET?
>> THAT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S BUDGETED THE GENERAL FUND.
>> OKAY. IS THERE A WAY TO KEEP UP WITH LEASES WHEN THEY EXPIRE?
>> WE COULD ASK. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR
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LEGAL ON HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT THAT AND ALSO ENSURING THE ACCURACY OF THOSE.WELL, WE MIGHT BE PROVIDED A LEASE.
I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT TO BE ABLE TO VERIFY THE ACCURACY.
>> A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
THIS IS JUST FOR AN ENTIRE PROPERTY RENTAL.
IF SOMEBODY WERE RENTING OUT A ROOM OR PART OF THEIR HOUSE, WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO REGISTER? THEN THE OTHER THING TOO IS ONE OF THE COMMENTS AND EMAIL I GOT AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS GOT IT, IS THIS RENTAL REGISTRATION, WHAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ARE FINDING IS THAT THEY GET SLAMMED RIGHT AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME BECAUSE THE OWNER PASSES THAT $300 ONTO THEM TO PAY THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A QUESTION IN THERE.
>> YES, SIR. WE'VE RECEIVED SIMILAR COMMENTS.
WE CAN'T CONTROL HOW THE PROPERTY OWNERS PASS ALONG THAT FEE TO THE TENANTS, UNFORTUNATELY.
>> COULD THERE BE A POSSIBILITY MAYBE OF SLIDING THAT OUT OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON?
>> THAT IS WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION TO AMEND THAT ORDINANCE.
>> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT IS A TOUGH TIME.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE REALLY HAS SOME STRUGGLE CHRISTMAS TIME, BUT WITH MY WIFE AND GRANDKIDS, $300 IS A LOT OF MONEY.
>> IT DOES SEEM LIKE THAT SHOULD BE MORE DURING THE MOVE IN SEASON, SUMMERTIME, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, SO THAT'S ALL HANDLED AND NOT A SURPRISE.
I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS. NEED SOME DATA.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID THIS IS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF POLICING THAT WE'VE HAD TO DO AS A CITY HAS BEEN FINANCIALLY BURDENSOME.
AT THE TIME, THE DATA SHOWED THAT WE WERE APPLYING A LOT OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES, NOT SAYING EVERYBODY THAT RENTS IS A NUISANCE, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATED INFORMATION THAT SHOWS HOW MANY OF THE CODE COMPLIANCY ISSUES WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH, AS WELL AS THE POLICING OF THESE PROPERTIES? THAT WE HAVE DATA TO WORK WITH TO FIGURE OUT, IF ONE OF THE PROGRAM IS EFFECTIVE, IS IT FUNDING AND PAYING FOR THE NECESSARY OVERSIGHT? IS THAT DOABLE? IS THAT INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GATHER AND SHOW TO THE COUNCIL?
>> THIS PROGRAM IN THE ARTICLE, IT'S INCLUDED IN, IS FOR CHAPTER 4 UNDER BUILDING REGULATIONS.
IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
WE CAN TIE THE NUMBER OF CODE CASES TO RENTAL PROPERTIES.
IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POLICE RECORDS, CALL VOLUMES, THAT WOULD BE SEPARATELY, AND I WOULD LOOK TO THE CITY MANAGER AND LEGAL TO REVIEW THAT AND LIKELY UNDER A CLOSED SESSION.
>> GOT YOU. ALRIGHT. WITH THAT, I DON'T WANT TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT.
I WOULD HOPE THAT NO ONE DOES.
IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE GOOD RENTERS TO THESE PROPERTIES, THAT TAKE CARE OF THEM, THAT STAY UNDER THE RADAR, THEY DON'T REQUIRE ATTENTION FROM THE CITY, UNWANTED OR UNDESIRABLE ATTENTION.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WOULD HELP SUPPORT GOOD BEHAVIOR [LAUGHTER] GOOD RENTERS, THAT STUFF.
ALSO, I'M THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, I'D LOVE TO HEAR.
THE OTHER IS, WITH THE RENTAL RATES, DO WE HAVE ANY EXCLUSIONS OR DISCOUNTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WHENEVER THE TENANCY FOR ANNUAL TENANCY IS HELD, SOMEONE THAT HAS DISABILITIES OR SENIOR CITIZENS OR VETERANS OR TEACHERS OR PUBLIC SAFETY, DO WE HAVE ANY EXCLUSIONS OR DISCOUNTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE EXTEND?
>> NO, SIR. NOT FOR THIS PROGRAM.
>> IT'D BE HARD TO DO THAT PROGRAM, BUT IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN, AGAIN, REWARD GOOD TENANCY AND THAT THIS PROGRAM IS WORKING FINANCIALLY FOR ALL OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A CITY, THEN I'D LIKE TO LOOK INTO THOSE OPTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
>> I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU ANSWERED NEARLY EVERY QUESTION THAT I HAD ON MY OWN SHEET HERE.
THE 2401 THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY,
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HOW MANY OF THOSE CAN YOU TELL ME ARE ACTUAL HOMES AND NOT APARTMENTS? DO YOU KNOW A NUMBER?THERE ARE SOME IN THERE THAT ARE DUPLEXES, BUT THEY ARE SINGLE FAMILY.
>> THAT WAS THE QUESTION. THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ONE, BUT I WANT TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING STAN SAID.
VETERANS, TEACHERS, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT DISCOUNTED IN THE RENT BY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY VERSUS US HAVING TO TAKE THAT BURDEN ON OURSELVES.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS, WHEN WE STARTED THIS IN 2022, I THINK WE HAD THIS IDEA THAT MAYBE WE COULD SEE HOW IT WORKED AND THEN ADD SOME DIFFERENT THINGS TO IT, I'D ALSO BE IN THAT SAME FRAMEWORK.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO SEE IF SOMEBODY HAS LIVED IN A PROPERTY FOR FIVE YEARS, MAYBE GET A DISCOUNT, IF THEY'RE RENTING THE SAME.
IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT ISN'T TOO CUMBERSOME, THAT MIGHT BE EFFECTIVE.
BUT THE OTHER THING I WAS JUST TOSSING AROUND IN MY HEAD WHILE STAN WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT IS MAYBE PERHAPS CORRELATING IT TO THE AMOUNT OF RENT THAT IS BEING RECEIVED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER THING BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME $300, WHETHER IT'S A ROOM OR IF IT'S A LARGE HOUSE THAT THEY'RE GETTING $3,000 A MONTH FOR SOMETHING.
THAT MIGHT MITIGATE SOME OF THAT AS WELL, IF THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.
>> THAT COULD BE DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO AS FAR AS ANY PROGRAM, AS FAR AS HOW MUCH AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD HAVE TO PAY, OR VETERANS, OR LIKE YOU STATED, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO.
>> I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
I DO HAVE TO TELL THE STORY ABOUT HOW I'VE NEVER SEEN A LADY GET HER HAIR STUCK IN A WEED EATER BEFORE.
THAT WAS A VERY INTERESTING DAY WE HAD [LAUGHTER]
>> WE DID THIS BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING OVERWHELMED WITH RENTALS.
THEN WE WERE HOPING WHENEVER THE AMOUNT OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES OPENED UP, MAYBE THIS FADES AWAY.
PEOPLE START SELLING THEIR HOMES.
IT'S HARD TO RENT A HOME FOR THE CRAZY AMOUNT THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE PAYING.
IT'S RIDICULOUS BECAUSE I HAD A DAUGHTER MOVING IN TOWN A YEAR AGO AND JUST LISTENING TO HER TELLING US WHAT THE RENT WAS, IT'S CRAZY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
THEY'RE MAKING THESE PEOPLE PAY.
THEY PAY SO MUCH PER MONTH INSTEAD OF A ONE TIME FEE.
THAT'S ON THEM, AND THAT'S JUST A BAD PROPERTY OWNER.
THEN ADDING, I WOULD LIKE MAYBE WE COULD FIGURE OUT A VOUCHER PROGRAM FOR SENIORS OR VETS, BUT THEY COME TO US, LIKE WHAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING FOR THE GOVERNMENT ASSISTANT HOME.
THEY'RE GETTING THE VOUCHERS FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
NOT DEPEND ON THE PROPERTY OWNER BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST GOING TO LIE AND SAY, I HAVE A VETERAN OR ELDERLY RENTING MY HOUSE, CAN I GET A DISCOUNT? IF WE DO LOOK INTO THAT, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE, MAYBE WHEN I'M DONE UP HERE, I MOVE AND I MOVE OUT OF ANNA, BUY ME ANOTHER HOUSE, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS HOUSE AND I'M GOING TO RENT IT.
THOSE HOMES I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AND IF THEY'RE WELL MAINTAINED, I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT RENT, BUT THEY MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES.
THEY TAKE PRIDE IN IT, BUT THEN THERE'S SOME THAT DON'T TAKE PRIDE IN IT.
THEY'RE ONLY HERE FOR A YEAR OR THEY'RE ONLY HERE FOR SIX MONTHS BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING ON THEIR HOUSE TO BE BUILT, BUT THEY STILL DON'T TAKE PRIDE IN A PROPERTY THAT THEY DON'T OWN.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE VOUCHERS OR SOME DISCOUNT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR GOAL, I THINK, AT THE BEGINNING, OR ONE OF THE GOALS, IS TO MAKE SURE THESE RENTAL PROPERTIES ARE TAKEN CARE OF AND THEY DON'T STAND OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, LIKE I LEARNED TONIGHT FROM ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT STAYS VACANT FOREVER, FOR A WHILE.
IT STANDS OUT AND IT'S A BURDEN ON PROPERTY OWNERS THAT LIVE NEXT TO THEM.
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WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FIX THAT.I'LL HUSH FROM THAT NOW, BUT THERE'S SOME CHANGES.
WITH THE AMOUNT OF APARTMENTS COMING UP, MAYBE THIS GOES AWAY.
MAYBE WE DON'T HEAR BACK FROM THE 851 AND THE NUMBER GOES DOWN.
MAYBE NEXT YEAR, IT GOES DOWN SMALLER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVEN MORE APARTMENTS OPEN UP.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT SEE IT THE WAY I SEE IT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I'M SEEING IT, SO MAYBE IT FIXES IT.
THEN MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT REDUCING THE 300 TO 250 OR 200.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD GO UP, BUT THIS WASN'T A LONG-TERM FIX WHENEVER WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS.
BUT I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU AND YOUR GUYS DO.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING SINCE I REMEMBERED.
DO WE STILL HAVE THAT HEAT MAP? IS THAT AN UPDATED HEAT MAP THAT WE HAD ABOUT WITH THE RENTALS ON IT?
>> THERE'S A MAP IN YOUR PACKET.
>> IT IS IN THERE. I MUST HAVE GLANCED THROUGH THAT.
BECAUSE I THINK, AND THIS IS JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS OUT THERE, YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED HOW MANY OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ACTUALLY RENTAL COMMUNITIES AT THIS POINT.
YOU WOULD BE REALLY SURPRISED.
ANY ISSUES WITH RENTERS IN PARTICULAR, WHETHER IT'S APARTMENTS OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, TO MITIGATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO DO IT IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAN IT IS SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD. THANKS.
>> I'LL ADD ONE PROGRAM THAT WAS ACTUALLY STARTED BY COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE, WAS THE WE NOTICE.
EACH MONTH, WE'RE RECOGNIZING PROPERTY OWNERS REGARDLESS OF HOW, WHETHER THEY'RE RENTING OR THEY OWN THE PROPERTY, UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF THEIR HOME.
WE'RE IDENTIFYING THOSE, AGAIN, THROUGH OUR CODE OFFICERS, SAYING THANK YOU TO THEM FOR MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY, AND IF THEY'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, JUST POINTING OUT THAT WE NOTICED THEM.
YOU HAD THEM ALL MARKED IN GREEN.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO MARK THE PENDING ONES OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT JUST REALLY DOESN'T MATTER FOR US?
>> YES. THOSE ARE OUR REGISTERED RENTALS, EITHER THEY'VE REGISTERED IN THE PAST, WE'VE CONFIRMED THAT THEY'VE REGISTERED, OTHERS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED EITHER THROUGH OUR GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS AS THE PROPERTY OWNER MAY BE DIFFERENT.
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REGISTERED, IT MAY BE AN LLC, THAT SOMEONE WHO LIVES THERE JUST HAS IT IN A TRUST OR SOMETHING ELSE.
BEFORE THEY'RE CONFIRMED AS A RENTAL, JUST FOR THEIR SAKE, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE REGISTERED RENTALS PROVIDED.
ALSO, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF LOTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SO THEY MAY BE STILL OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER.
THOSE ALSO MAY SHOW UP AS A POTENTIAL RENTAL, BUT WE KNOW NO ONE'S MOVED INTO THAT HOME YET.
>> YES. QUESTION. DID WE ENACT THIS TO SLOW RENTALS DOWN OR DID WE ENACT THIS SO THAT WE COULD CHECK IN ON RENTAL PROPERTIES? I'LL WAIT FOR YOU ALL OR YOU EITHER WAY BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME IT'S CONFLICTING BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING, "WE ENACTED THIS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT THAT WE WERE HAVING TO DO.
THEREFORE, WE NEEDED THIS FEE TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THESE PROPERTIES." IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE PEOPLE OVER HERE HAVE SAID, "WE ENACTED THIS BECAUSE THE RENTALS WERE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL AND WE THOUGHT A $300 FEE WOULD STOP THAT."
>> I'LL JUMP IN. THE FEE IS JUSTIFIED BY THE STAFF OUTPUT.
WE ACTUALLY RAN AN EXERCISE WHERE WE COSTED EVERYTHING OUT TO COME UP WITH THE FEE FOR THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE GOING OUT AND WE'RE EXPENDING.
THAT IS A QUESTION CERTAINLY FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL WHO WAS HERE AT THE TIME.
BUT ALSO TOO, AND IT WAS MENTIONED BY MS. LAW AND MR. WHERLAND, THIS IS REALLY TO HELP MAINTAIN THESE PROPERTIES OVER TIME.
THE REASON WHY WE GO IN AND WE DO THE INSPECTION IS THAT WE WANT OUR HOUSING STOCK TO LAST.
WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT THEY'RE RENTED OUT, BUT WHAT WE DO TRY TO CONTROL IS THAT THEY ARE MAINTAINED PROPERLY AND SO THAT THE HOUSING STOCK LASTS OVER TIME.
>> SURE. ABSOLUTELY. I AGREE 100%.
I DON'T WANT US TO CREATE A GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY TO TRY AND CREATE A FEE,
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AND WE ARE UP HERE SAYING, THE LAND OWNER, THE HOME OWNER NEEDS TO BE THE ONE TO PAY IT WHEN YOU ALL KNOW IT WON'T HAPPEN AND IT GETS PUSHED DOWN TO THE RENTER.I'M SORRY, BUT YOU CAN STAY HERE AND RENT FOR $2,400 A MONTH OR $2,200 A MONTH AND PAY A ONE TIME FEE FOR 300, OR YOU CAN DRIVE SEVEN MILES TO MELISSA AND PAY $3,000 A MONTH.
JUST HEAR ME OUT. RENTALS ARE NOT GOING TO STOP IN THIS COMMUNITY.
IF OUR BUREAUCRACY THAT WE'VE CREATED MAINTAINED SOMEWHAT CONTROL OVER THAT, THEN I'M OKAY WITH IT.
IF YOU GUYS COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE EVALUATED THE NUMBERS, AND THIS $300 NOW NEEDS TO GO TO 320, BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR MANPOWER TO GO CHECK ON RENTAL PROPERTIES, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO RAISE THE FEE BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S GOING TO CURTAIL RENTERS.
>> I WILL STATE THAT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE UNDER ANY TYPE OF ILLUSION THAT THE LANDLORDS ARE NOT PASSING THIS DOWN TO THE RENTERS.
>> YEAH THEY ABSOLUTELY ARE PLAIN AND SIMPLE, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEM TO COME CHECK IN SOMEWHERE AND SAY THAT I'VE GOT A VETERAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE TO WATCH OUT NOW ADDING MORE LAYERS ONTO SOMEBODY WHO'S A SINGLE MAMA, WHO'S GOT TO GET UP AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING.
THEIR CHILDREN HAVE TO WALK TO SCHOOL OR HOPEFULLY MAKE IT TO A BUS, AND SHE DON'T GET HOME TILL 7:00 OR 8:00 AT NIGHT OR A SINGLE DADDY OR WHATEVER.
NOW YOU'RE LIKE, OH, IF YOU COME OVER HERE AND YOU'RE A GOOD RENTER AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A DISCOUNT AND ALL THIS STUFF, AND SHE'S GOING TO BE WORE OUT, HE'S GOING TO BE WORE OUT, AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO PAY THE FEE.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FEE DOESN'T GET OUT OF CONTROL AND THAT IT PAYS YOUR WAGE, PAYS YOUR SALARY, AND THEN IT GOES BACK IN SO THAT WE CAN DRIVE AROUND AND INSPECT HOMES.
THAT'S ALL IT SHOULD BE. IT SHOULDN'T BE ANYMORE, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE UNDER THE GUISE THINKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT FEE, AND IT'S GOING TO HELP US SOME WAY HAVE PEOPLE WANT TO COME HERE AND RENT.
MY LAST QUESTION IS, SO AN OCCUPANCY TAX, IF YOU OWN A HOTEL, IF THERE WAS A HOTEL, I HOPE THAT ONE UP BY 75 GETS DONE.
WE MAY ALL BE WELL OLD BY THE TIME IT GETS DONE, BUT LET'S SAY IT DOES.
I'M 70 WHEN THOSE PEOPLE RENT THAT, WE GET AN OCCUPANCY TAX.
I KNOW THIS IS MORE BUREAUCRACY, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES HAVE DONE THIS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
I OWN A SHORT TERM RENTAL, AND I HAVE TO PAY AN OCCUPANCY TAX AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND I'M OKAY WITH IT.
IT'S IN A DESTINATION, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT POTENTIALLY BEING SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO? BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER DO AN OCCUPANCY TAX AND I THINK WE WOULD GET WAY MORE OUT OF THAT THAN SAYING, HEY, IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY, WE CHARGE $300 ONCE A YEAR?
>> YES. WE ALREADY HAVE THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX ON THE BOOKS.
>> WE CAN PUT THAT ON A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
>> PROPERTY OWNERS THEMSELVES ALREADY BE REMITTING THAT.
THE NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS IS RELATIVELY SMALL AS WE'RE TALKING AT A TIME.
>> IT EVENTUALLY WILL GROW AND THEN IS IT THE I'M HONORABLE AND I WANT TO COME TELL YOU THAT I HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL OR DO WE CHECK THAT? DO WE GO ON AIRBNB LIKE EVERY 60 DAYS OR 90 DAYS?
>> THEY'RE EITHER REGISTERING [INAUDIBLE].
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU ALL. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL.
>> IF I CAN ANSWER A COUPLE OF THOSE QUESTIONS, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT BROUGHT THIS UP.
I THINK THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS SOME OF THOSE RENTALS WERE NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF THEY WEREN'T SAFE SO WE INSTITUTED A PROGRAM TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THE LANDLORDS WOULD TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS.
I KNOW, NOT ALL LANDLORDS ARE BAD LANDLORDS, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT DO NOT CARE WHO THEY RENT TO AND WHO DO NOT TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
THEN WHEN A GOOD STEWARD OF THE CITY GOES AND WANTS TO SELL THEIR HOME AND THEY'RE LIVING NEXT TO SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS OR WHO HAS RENTERS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, WE WERE TRYING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT TO PUT THOSE PEOPLE ON NOTICE THAT THEY NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR.
BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY'S HOMEOWNERS EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN BUGGED AT SOME POINT BY SOMEBODY THAT HAS RENTALS, I KNOW MINE HAS SO THAT BECAME WHAT WAS THERE.
WE DO NEED TO TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT,
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BUT I THINK WE CAN DO THAT IF THAT HELPS.>> THANK YOU. THAT BROUGHT UP ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND I'LL USE TELLUS FOR AN EXAMPLE.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING FOR THE CITY.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING OBVIOUSLY HIGH END HOMES, THAT'S WHAT THEY BUILD.
I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AGREED ON A RENTAL CAP, TO WHERE THEY SAID, OH, HEY, I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PEOPLE THAT MOVE HERE AND PAY $5,000 A MONTH OF RENT EVENTUALLY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'D HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE HOMES.
BUT I KNOW THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A CAP ON IT.
THIS IS MY QUESTION, NOT UNDERSTANDING IF THEY PUT A CAP ON IT, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, I BUY A HOME AND TELLUS, AND THE CAP IS 10% OF THE HOMES OR 5% OR WHATEVER FORGET THE NUMBER.
IF I COME TO YOU GUYS AND I'M LIKE, HEY, I'M GOING TO TURN THIS INTO A RENTAL, AND I'M THAT 5.95% HOME, DOES THAT MEAN THAT I GET TOLD I CAN'T MAKE MY HOME A RENTAL AND WHO CHECKS ALL OF THAT? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT JUST SEEMS CRAZY TO ME HOW WE WOULD KEEP UP WITH ALL THAT.
>> LIKELY THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS OR CC&RS OUT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
SIMILAR TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS TODAY, MAYBE HAVING STRICTER LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAN THE CITY REQUIRES.
CO-COMPLIANCE OFFICERS WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PROPERTY MANAGEMENT TEAMS AND COULD HELP OUT WITH THAT.
THERE'S BEEN PROPOSALS IN THE PAST TO CHANGE SOME OF THE CC&RS IN OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROHIBIT OR LIMIT RENTALS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THOSE HAVE EITHER FAILED OR NOT GONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO GET TO A BALLOT.
BUT THEY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FROM THE HOAS HAS COME TO US AND ASKED FOR EITHER INFORMATION OR FOR ASSISTANCE ON THOSE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE THOSE WOULDN'T BE CITY ORDINANCE.
THAT WOULD BE YOUR CC&RS JURISDICTIONALLY WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO.
>> GOT IT SO IT WOULD BE THE HOA THAT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY CATCH THEM AND SAY, WE GOT YOU YOUR 5.19%, AND YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR RENTAL UNTIL ONE OF THESE IS NO LONGER A RENTAL.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY'LL DO.
THAT SEEMS CLEAR AS MUD TO ME THANK YOU.
>> SORRY, STAN, [INAUDIBLE] AGAIN THAT DEVELOPER AGREEMENT THAT WE DO IS ONLY FOR THE FIRST MARKET.
THE SECONDARY MARKET IS A LITTLE TOUGHER TO CATCH, AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE HOA ALSO, THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING THAT'S CRITICAL, AND THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE COMING UP WITH THIS RELATIVELY SHORTLY IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH, HOW CAN I PUT IT, QUALITY TO WANT TO GO INTO A PARTICULAR PLACE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO AN INCENTIVE AGREEMENT AND BRING THEM INTO THE TABLE AND TO GET IN A DEVELOP AGREEMENT WHERE WE COULD PUT THAT CAP ON THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET THE CAP IS IF WE COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH INCENTIVES THAT IS NOT GOING TO GET US TRAPPED FOR THE LOWER ONES, THAT'S GOING TO BE UP IN THE AIR IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND DOES 100 SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, AND THEY CAN RENT THEM ALL DAY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER AND THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ROADS OR ANY OF THAT OTHER STUFF SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE NEED TO KEEP THAT UP. THANKS.
>> JUST A REAL QUICK. SOME OTHER COMMENT.
YOU SAID RIGHT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THAT WAY, WELL DONE.
I APPRECIATE THE INPUT FROM EVERYBODY, AND I LIKE THE VOUCHERS.
JODY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT A PROGRAM TO CHECK UP ON RENTERS.
RENTERS HAVE THEIR PRIVACY AND THEY ARE ABLE TO OPT OUT OF THE ONSITE INSPECTION WITHIN THE HOME OR ABOARD, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE ARE NOT STEPPING ON YOUR PRIVACY.
THE OTHER THING IS JUST A LITTLE BACK HISTORY, WHEN THIS WAS ENACTED, THIS WAS AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF RENTERS COMING TO US.
WE WERE DEALING WITH MOLD, SEWAGE, TERMITES, MISSING FIRE ALARMS, NOT OPERATIONAL FIRE ALARMS, AND SERIOUS EROSION.
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EROSION WAS NOT JUST THE LAND AROUND THE HOUSE, BUT ALSO THE HOUSE ITSELF.RENTERS CARRY A CERTAIN SET OF RIGHTS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN A HOMEOWNER SO WHEN PEOPLE CHOOSE TO RENT THEIR HOME, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO A LOT MORE SCRUTINY, AND THIS PROGRAM PROTECTS THE RENTERS AND PROTECTS OUR HOUSING MARKET.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON IT.
>> COUNCIL, ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS.
I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE PROGRAM.
I THINK ANYBODY THAT'S TALKED TO ME ABOUT THAT KNOWS THAT.
I THINK IT'S A TAX JUST TO BE A TAX AT THIS POINT.
I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST COME UP WITH A STICK ONLY, THAT'S A PRETTY POOR WAY TO DO THIS.
IF YOU GO TWO OR THREE YEARS AND WE DON'T EVER HAVE TO TALK TO YOU, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY.
BUT IF WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY SIX MONTHS, MAYBE YOU SHOULD PAY $1,000 A YEAR OR $2,000 A YEAR. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF YOU ARE A GOOD LANDLORD, IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH YOUR TENANTS AND YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM, YOU TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF YOU.
JUST MY OPINION IS SOMETHING I THINK THE COUNCIL DEFINITELY NEEDS TO ADDRESS AND WE NEED TO GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS WITH THIS THING AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
I APPRECIATE THE REPORT. THAT'S GREAT.
>> THAT'LL TAKE US UP TO AGENDA ITEM 5 CONSENT ITEMS.
[5. Consent Items.]
THESE ITEMS CONSIST OF NON CONTROVERSIAL OR HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW.ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUEST PRIOR TO A MOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY'D LIKE TO PULL FROM THIS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 5A-H.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOTEN, SECOND AND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNDON.
IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.
THAT MOTION PASSES 7-0, UNANIMOUS, TAKES US ON TO AGENDA ITEM 6.
[6. Items For Individual Consideration.]
ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.ITEM A IS CONSIDERED, DISCUSS AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A SERVICE PLAN AGREEMENT FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICES FOR 4.9 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, 484 PLUS OR MINUS FEET NORTH OF WEST OUTER LOOP ROAD, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, STEPHANIE SCOTT SIMMS.
>> MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THIS ITEM IS PART OF AN ANNEXATION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY NORTH OF THE OUTER LOOP.
ONE COMMUNITY CHURCH HAS SUBMITTED A PETITION TO ANNEX 4.9 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF LAND.
THE SERVICE PLAN AGREEMENT IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION.
THE ANNEXATION AND ZONING REQUESTS ARE ON THIS AGENDA.
AGAIN, ONE COMMUNITY CHURCH IS SEEKING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UPCOMING ZONING ITEM AND REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THE SERVICE PLAN.
IN THIS MAP, THIS IS THE 4.9 ACRES.
THE PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY IS 14.9 ACRES.
PART OF THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY IN THE CITY LIMITS.
PART OF IT THE 4.9 ACRES IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE CITY IT'S IN THE ETJ.
THEY ARE LOOKING TO FIRST ANNEX THAT PART THAT'S NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS INTO THE CITY THEN LATER AS ANOTHER UPCOMING AGENDA ITEM ON THIS AGENDA, THEY'RE GOING TO ZONE THE PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY.
>> RIGHT, WE CAN'T ZONE IT IF IT'S AN ETJ.
>> CORRECT. FIRST YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE SERVICE PLAN FOR THE ANNEXATION.
THEN THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE TO ANNEX THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY,
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AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO REZONE ALL OF IT.THEN THEY'RE GOING TO USE ALL OF THAT PROPERTY TO BUILD.
>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION APPROVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARVER, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOTEN, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON THAT.
THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT'LL TAKE US ON TO B.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT ON AN ORDINANCE TO ANNEX 4.9 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES.
LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, 484 PLUS OR MINUS FEET NORTH OF WEST AERO ROAD, MISS SCOTT SIMMS.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE COMPANION ITEM TO THE ANNEXATION.
THIS IS THE COMPANION ITEM TO THE SERVICE PLAN THAT YOU JUST APPROVED.
THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IN RED HERE ON THE SCREEN IS THAT 4.9 ACRES THAT YOU JUST APPROVED THE SERVICE PLAN FOR.
NOW, THIS IS THE ANNEXATION OF THAT PROPERTY INTO THE CITY.
>> MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 6B.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOTEN SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNDON.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RE CAST YOUR VOTES.
>> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, TAKES US ON TO ITEM C. CONDUCT A PUBLIC I DID NOT CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.
BACK UP TO B. I WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:18 P.M.
I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS? ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS LAST CALL? I'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:18 P.M. THAT TAKES US TO SEE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND ACT ON AN ORDINANCE TO ZONE 4.9 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, 484 PLUS OR MINUS FEET NORTH OF WEST OUTER LOOP ROAD FROM THE DEFAULT AGRICULTURAL AG, ZONING TO ZONING DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SF 20, AND RE ZONE 9.8 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, 4084 PLUS OR MINUS FEET NORTH OF WEST OUTER LOOP ROAD FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO LARGE LOT SFE TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SF 20.
MISS SCOTT SIMMS. SORRY. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:19 P.M.
THE PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY IS NOW YOU HAVE APPROVED THE ANNEXATION OF THE PIECE THAT IS SHOWN HERE ON RED THAT WAS IN THE EP.
AS YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU ANNEX PROPERTY INTO THE CITY, IT BECOMES THE FAULT ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY IS AGRICULTURAL UNTIL THAT ZONING IS CHANGED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THAT PORTION THAT E D PORTION THAT YOU JUST ANNEXED IN A SF 20, AS WELL AS THE PORTION THAT'S CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, THE TRACK THAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED, A SINGLE FAMILY LARGE LOT TO S 20.
ALL OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE REZONED AS SS 20.
AGAIN, WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT ON CHOOSING SF 20 AS THE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE WE FELT IT WAS FOR ONE, CHURCHES ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THAT ZONE.
SECONDLY, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT THEY CAN DO BESIDES A CHURCH OR RESIDENTIAL WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS A GOOD BASE OR A GOOD ZONE FOR THE CHURCH.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU WHY THAT, BUT THAT EXPLAINS THAT.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANYTHING? ANY CARDS ON THIS? ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK? LAST CALL. THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:21 P.M.
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>> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
>> STARTING WITH THE, DO WE NOT HAVE A ZONING THAT FITS CHURCHES OR CHARITIES? I THINK IN THIS CASE, SPECIFICALLY CHURCHES OR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AT ALL.
THEY'RE A LAND USE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER LAND USE, MULTI FAMILY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THEY ARE RELIGIOUS LAND USES ARE ALLOWED WITHIN ANY OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS EXCEPT FOR I TWO.
THERE WOULD NOT BE A ZONING DESIGNATION SPECIFICALLY FOR CHURCHES.
THEY'RE JUST ALLOWED AS A USE WITHIN ANY ZONING DISTRICT.
>> IS THAT HOW OTHER CITIES DO IT?
>> IT IS. THAT'S REALLY THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE FOR ZONING.
IS THAT TYPICALLY CHURCHES ARE ALWAYS ALLOWED IN MOSTLY IN ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONES, IT'S UP TO THE CITY OR THE MUNICIPALITY TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY'RE ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL AREAS.
SURE. BUT USUALLY CHURCHES ARE ALWAYS ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL.
>> GOT YOU. WE'VE HAD THIS IS NOT TO SPEAK AT ONE COMMUNITY CHURCH SO MY QUESTIONS ARE NOT RELATED TO THAT ORGANIZATION.
PLEASE SET THAT ASIDE. ANYBODY LISTENING.
WE'VE HAD SOME BAIT AND SWITCH ALONG THE WAY.
I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID TO THE MAYOR THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL ZONING, THAT SORT OF STUFF.
I FELT LIKE WE'RE ALMOST CREATING A PRECEDENCE FOR A FUTURE DECISION MAKER TO LOOK AT THIS AND GO, HEY, THE COUNCIL WANTED SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT THERE ON THE HIGHWAY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR ZONING DESIGNATION SHOULD THE OWNER OF IT DECIDE TO NOT BUILD A CHURCH THERE.
I DON'T WANT TO SET ANY KIND OF PRECEDENCE THAT IS ANYTHING BUT COMMERCIAL.
I KNOW, I SEE IT, BUT I'VE ALSO EXPERIENCED COUNCILMAN BILLS IS POINTING TO THE IF NOT CONSTRUCTED, WILL REQUIRE A NEW ZONING CASE.
JUST SAT UP IN THE SEAT LONG ENOUGH AND FELT THE STING OF WHAT WAS INTENDED AND WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED AND THEN OUR ATTORNEY HAVING TO TELL US, WELL, YOU CAN'T STOP IT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY APPROVED.
I I JUST WANT TO DEAD SET THAT THIS IS FOR A CHURCH AND NOTHING ELSE, AND IT WILL REQUIRE A FULL REZONING TO BE ANYTHING BUT A CHURCH?
>> WELL, UNDER THE S F 20, THEY CAN ONLY BUILD LARGE LOT HOMES IF THEY WERE TO BUILD A HOME, LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
ANYTHING ELSE, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE S 20 ON DISTRICT.
THEY CANNOT BUILD COMMERCIAL, THEY CANNOT BUILD INDUSTRIAL, ANYTHING WITHOUT A REZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
LIKE I SAID, IT IS VERY STANDARD FOR CHURCHES TO BE WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
WE DID NOT CHOOSE FOR THEM TO GO AS A INTO A COMMERCIAL.
WE DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE IF WE OPEN THAT UP OR, YOU KNOW, THAT OPENS IT UP TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES IF IT WERE LET'S SAY ONE OR C2, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LARGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND OF COURSE, WE DIDN'T WANT INDUSTRIAL EITHER.
SO RESIDENTIAL WAS THE ONLY BESIDES A PD OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THIS WAS THAT IT MERITED A PD FOR A CHURCH, BUT THAT IS A ROUTE.
IT IS A ROUTE. THAT COULD GO THAT WE COULD GO THAT WAY.
IF YOU'RE WANTING TO TIE IT DOWN AND TIE DOWN ALL OF THE STANDARDS AND MAKE SURE FOR SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD.
I KNOW YOU'VE READ A LOT OF THESE SGPS AND PDS AND JUST A MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS THAT ARE PRESENTED ONE WAY BASED ON COMMENTARY THAT HAPPENED IN THE CITY CHAMBERS THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
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BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, WE'VE NOW OPENED PANDORA'S BOX TO OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN'T STOP.I'M JUST SAYING I'M VERY HESITANT TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD CREATE BY RIGHT PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE BUILT HERE.
YOU'LL GET PAID PROFESSIONALLY TO DO THIS, AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL HELP US DEFEND IT.
>> I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IF IT WERE ANY OTHER S DISTRICT, LIKE A SMALLER LOTS.
I WOULD SAY YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
IF THEY WERE LET'S JUST SAY HYPOTHETICALLY, AND I HATE GOING INTO HYPOTHETICALS, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THAT THEY DECIDED TO NOT BUILD A CHURCH.
WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM BUILDING LARGE LOTS.
THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS EXPRESSED AS A DESIRE TO HAVE IN THE PUBLIC HAS EXPRESSED THAT THEY WANT TO SEE MORE LARGE LOT DEVELOPMENT.
>> IS THAT ONE ACRE LOT HOW BIG SF 20 HALF ACRE? HALF ACRE.
>> HALF ACRE. HOW BIG IS THIS PROPERTY? 4.9 PLUS ANOTHER SIX, SO MAYBE TEN?
>> IT'S NOT GOING TO KILL US. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM SIX C. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NO TO JESUS.
>> A SECOND. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE.
>> NO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCIL MEMBER TIN SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BILLS, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PLEASE YOUR VOTE AT THIS TIME?
>> I'M NOT SAYING ANY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO.
>> THE MOTION PASSES 51 AND ONE.
WE HAVE AN EXTENSION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARVER AND A NOTE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MILLER. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THAT TAKES US ON TO AGENDA ITEM D. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER DISCUSSED, AND ACT ON AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE 0.7 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST FOSTER CROSSING, 305 PLUS OR MINUS FEET EAST OF PECAN GROVE DRIVE FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 2002-27 A TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT MULTI FAMILY LOCAL COMMERCIAL C ONE ZONE 24-0003, MISS SCOTT SIMMS.
THE APPLICANT REACHED OUT TO STAFF AND WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT YOU TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE MARCH 11 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
>> ARE WE ABLE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS?
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN DEFINITELY GO THROUGH THE COMMENTS. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.
YEAH. AS A MATTER OF FACT, LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:30 P.M.
>> I'M SORRY, STEPHANIE, DID YOU SAY MARCH 11?
>> IF WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS, I'LL WE'LL NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE.
>> THIS HAS GOT TO BE A THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING, TO HOLD IT OPEN TO A DATE TIME AND PLACE, SIR.
>> CAN I ASK WHY YOU WANT TO TABLE IT? HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THIS DEVELOPER OR JPI ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? THIS IS THE THIRD TIME.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING, I'LL JUST ANSWER THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS SOME RESERVATIONS CAME LATE AFTER THE AGENDA HAD ALREADY BEEN POSTED AND SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SUGGESTED.
THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DID NOT ALLOW THEM TO ADJUST FOR THAT, SO THEY ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE RESERVATIONS TO TRY TO ADJUST FOR THOSE.
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>> TO BETTER FIT THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS?
>> NO. THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE GREEN BELT AREAS AND TRYING TO THAT BENEFITS THE PROPERTY OWNER? NO. THAT BENEFITS THE PROJECT.
>> IF SOMEBODY COMES TO YOU AND THEY'RE A DEVELOPER AND THEY HAVE LUNCH WITH YOU AND YOU BRING UP A RESERVATION OF SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T AND YOU KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC'S NOT GOING TO LIKE, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO TABLE AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THEY CAN DO ANYTHING, WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO DO SO?
>> THEY DIDN'T VOTE ME UP HERE?
>> THAT'S ON YOU. YOU CAN CAST YOUR VOTE APPROPRIATELY.
>> IT WAS ONE STIPULATION THAT BENEFITS NOBODY ELSE BUT THEM.
>> NOT NECESSARILY, THEY'RE NOT.
>> DO YOU WANT A DEVELOPER THAT'S WILLING TO TRY TO WORK WITH US, THE COUNCIL, ANYBODY OUT HERE, OR DO YOU WANT THEM TO JUST TRY AND DO THEIR OWN THING AND THEN POTENTIALLY COME IN FRONT OF HERE? BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING UP HERE RIGHT NOW, KEVIN, ARE YOU GOING TO BE SITTING HERE 15 YEARS FROM NOW? ARE YOU GOING TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL EVERY YEAR? I WANT A DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO BE WILLING TO COME BACK, AND THEN IF THE VOTE IS NO, THE VOTE IS NO.
WHAT WHAT CHANGED FROM THE FIRST TIME?
>> IT'S STILL RENTALS. THEY WENT.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THEY DID CHANGE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. WHEN IT COMES IN FRONT OF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO VOTE NO ON IT, THEN YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD AND DO SO.
>> IT'S STILL OVER THE TOP OF THE NEIGHBOR.
>> IT'S STILL CHANGING THE 2050 PLAN.
IT'S STILL GOING AGAINST THE P&Z. ALSO [INAUDIBLE]
>> THERE'S BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE GONE AGAINST P&Z AND YOU VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT.
IT'S GONE IN FRONT OF P&Z, AND THEY VOTED IT DOWN AND IT CAME IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU VOTED FOR IT.
IF I BELIEVE YOU'RE ON HERE, ALL OF US WERE UP HERE, MAYBE NOT ONE.
WHENEVER WE HAD ALL THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES BEING BUILT IN ANNA TOWN SQUARE?
>> WE WANTED SOME OF US WANTED TO STOP IT. WE COULDN'T.
>> BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY IN THE PLAN, THE PD FROM 040506, WHATEVER.
THERE WAS NOTHING THIS CURRENT COUNCIL COULD DO ABOUT IT.
HERE'S SOMETHING THAT OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE SHOWN UP A LOT.
THEY DON'T LIKE RIGHT THERE AND WE CAN STOP IT, AND WE'RE BOUND DOWN TO THE DEVELOPER.
>> YOU CAN STOP IT AND YOU'RE ONE PERSON UP HERE. YOU HAVE ONE VOTE.
>> I ALSO HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK MY MIND.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO SHUT UP. I KNOW.
KEEP TALKING. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT THEY WANTED TO TABLE IT. THERE'S BEEN A VOTE.
>> THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TABLE IT.
IF YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO TABLE VOTE NO.
>> THEY COULD HAVE NOT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA LAST WEEK.. THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IS UP HERE, 60 PEOPLE, 50 PEOPLE WOULDN'T SHOW UP?
>> HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. THIS IS ON US.
THIS TABLE IS ON US, AND IT'S ON US BECAUSE IT WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THERE WAS RESERVATIONS AFTER THAT.
BUT PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS DIDN'T EXPRESS THOSE UNTIL AFTER THE AGENDA WENT OUT.
NORMALLY I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO SAID, I'LL LISTEN TO THE RESERVATIONS AND SEE IF I CAN'T MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT BASED ON IT.
>> RESERVATION THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO ADJUST WAS SPOKE ON BY THE P&Z PET.
>> WE HAVE TO TALK TO THAT INDIVIDUAL.
>> AT THE P&Z MEETING I WAS SPOKE FROM THE DIES.
THE PZ, I THINK IT WAS THE CHAIR THAT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND SOMEONE ELSE AGREED ABOUT IT ABOUT THE 50% LAND USE.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE.
IT WAS SPOKE ABOUT AT THE P&Z MEETING.
>> YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER CAN BE ADJUSTED BASE.
WE HAVE THAT PARK LAND IN LIEU OF ORDINANCE THAT THEY COULD PUT MONEY INTO A PARK FUND ACCOUNT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MITIGATE THAT, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION AFTERWARDS, THAT THEY COULD SINK SOME MORE MONEY INTO THAT PARKS FUND.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT EITHER UNTIL THESE OBJECTIONS COME UP.
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AT LEAST GIVE THEM THEY HAVE TWO YEARS INVOLVED IN THIS PROPERTY, AND THEY HAVE JUMPED THROUGH ALL HOOPS.>> YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO ME.
>> YOU COULD DO A LOT WORSE THAN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER.
>> THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB.
I'VE LIVED THERE IN CRAIG GRANT AND ANN MCKINNEY.
>> PART OF THAT IS THE TOPOGRAPHY OF WHAT THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND IS WHERE IT IS AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT.
I MEAN, IN THE END, ALL YOU JUST HAVE TO DO IS JUST MAKE WE MADE A MOTION TO TABLE. ASKED THE QUESTION.
>> LET'S VOTE AND SEE IF I WIN.
>> THAT'S BEFORE WE VOTE. I ASK THE QUESTION.
>> FOLKS HAVE CARDS HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK SPEAK. ABSOLUTELY.
>> IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT, THAT'S FINE.
IF IT GETS TABLED, YOU CERTAINLY CAN COME BACK ON MARCH 11TH AND SPEAK.
BUT IF I HAVE YOUR CARD HERE IN FRONT OF ME AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, I ABSOLUTELY WELCOME THAT.
EVERYBODY RIGHT WITH THAT? FIRST UP, I'VE GOT MENY ZING.
>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GIVING UP TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY.
A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO ADDRESS JUST BEFORE I BEGIN.
THERE'S BEEN ACTUALLY NO CONTACT.
THERE WAS THE INITIAL ONE AT THE SCHOOL.
THERE'S BEEN NOTHING FOLLOWING THAT.
THERE WAS ALSO NO RECOMMENDATIONS OR RESERVATIONS THAT WE KNOW OF AS A COMMUNITY THAT THEY'VE TAKEN.
WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO THAT.
THEN JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, I THINK THERE IS TWO OR THREE TIMES THEY'VE ADJUSTED ON US.
IF ANYTHING, I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE THEM RESPECT THE TIME OF CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THE PEOPLE AS WELL.
I WOULD JUST HAVE YOU GUYS KEEP THAT IN MIND.
BUT OVERALL, WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC BENEFIT.
I WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT PHRASE IN MIND.
THE CURRENT PROPOSAL FOR JEFFERSON CROSSING DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IN ITS CURRENT FORM, IT DOES NOT PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC BENEFIT.
HOWEVER, OUR RESEARCH INDICATES WE MAY BE ABLE TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE.
TO BE CLEAR, SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS WHAT WE PREFER.
BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT CRAIG RANCH, IT HAS A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT RANGE FROM APARTMENT, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, URBAN LIVING, TOWN HOMES, AND MORE.
BUT WHAT'S THE ONE THING CRAIG RANCH IS KNOWN FOR? A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.
COUNCILMAN LEE MILLER, ON MAY 14TH, 2024, YOU SAID THAT CRAIG'S ARE ONE OF THE BEST DEVELOPERS IN THE METROPLEX.
I'M NOT JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE SITTING HERE, WE COULD DO A LOT WORSE. SIR, I AGREE.
CRAIG RANCHES MASTERFULLY CREATED INFILL DEVELOPMENTS THAT COMPLEMENTED SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BUILDS.
HOWEVER, THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT LACKS THE SOUL AND THE VIBRANCY THAT CRAIG RANCH DEVELOPMENTS ARE KNOWN FOR.
WE HUMBLY REQUEST THAT THE SAME LEVEL OF QUALITY IS BROUGHT HERE.
THIS IS A UNIQUE PROPERTY THAT CAN BE USED AS A MODEL FOR FUTURE CRAIG RANCH INFIELD DEVELOPMENTS. HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES.
TOWN HOMES. IF YOU FLIP TO THE SECOND PAGE, YOU WILL SEE TOWN HOMES PROVIDE A REASONABLE COMPROMISE.
THEY ARE LOWER ON COST IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND PROVIDE A WAY TO SPREAD THE COST PER KEY.
WE CAN PROVIDE GREEN SPACE AND LOT LINE REQUIREMENTS, AND WE CAN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AS WELL.
IT REMOVES THE HIGH DENSITY MULTI FAMILY FROM THE EQUATION, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN HURDLES.
IT ALSO PROVIDES A KEY PUBLIC BENEFIT THROUGH A QUALITY CRAIG RANCH DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL COMPLEMENT AND ELEVATE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHEN YOU FLIP TO THE SECOND PAGE, YOU WILL SEE THAT STACY ROAD, TOWNHOMES, IN CRAIG RANCH DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT, AND YOU CAN SEE THE LEVEL OF QUALITY.
IF YOU FLIP TO THE SECOND PAGE, HEMINGWAY, CRAIG RANCH TOWNHOMES.
ONCE AGAIN, INFILL DEVELOPMENT AROUND SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT HOMES, BUT LOOK AT THE QUALITY THAT THEY'RE GIVING.
IT'S NOT VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.
TOWNHOMES NEXT PAGE, TOWNHOMES AT STACY CROSSING.
YOU LOOK AT THE HIGH LEVEL OF QUALITY, THE THOUGHT AND THE DEPTH THAT THEY PUT INTO THIS.
WE ARE NOT SEEING THAT REFLECTED HERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE 4, YOU WILL SEE THAT THAT AGAIN IS A SMALLER INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
ANOTHER OPTION IS ZERO LOT LINE HOMES.
THERE ARE NUMEROUS URBAN LIVING TYPE DEVELOPMENT INFILL DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN CRAIG RANCH.
SMALLER SIZE WOULD ALLOWS HOMES IN A SMALLER AREA.
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IF YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE EXAMPLES OF CASTLE ROCK HOMES, CRAIG RANCH.THEY USUALLY START ABOUT 550 -600,000.
THEN ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THAT IS ALSO THEIR COMMERCIAL REQUEST.
WHAT THEY'VE REQUESTED FROM US DOES NOT SEEM ONCE AGAIN LIKE THE QUALITY THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM CRAIG RANCH.
YOU LOOK AT DISTRICT 121, ON PAGE 6, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A LEVEL OF THOUGHT.
THERE IS AN ANCHOR TENANT THERE.
THERE'S MULTIPLE THERE, AND IT COMPLIMENTS THE LOCAL AREA.
THERE'S A LEVEL OF HIGH QUALITY ONCE AGAIN.
THERE'S ALSO OPTIONS TO PUT MEDICAL AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICES THERE.
WE DON'T JUST HAVE TO HAVE RETAIL.
THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T CONSIDERED ANY OF THESE.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THEY DO CONSIDER SOME OF THESE.
IN CONCLUSION, IF CRAIG RANCH RECONSIDERS AND PROPOSES A MORE SUITABLE OPTION, THE COMMUNITY MAY BE MORE INCLINED TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AS OF RIGHT NOW.
WE CANNOT COMMIT WITHOUT INSURANCES.
THE WAY IT STANDS, WE CANNOT APPROVE. THANK YOU.
>> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK? IS THAT OKAY OR NO? MANY, I HAVE A QUESTION.
HOW BAD IS IT? DO YOU GO DOWN WEST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD AND GET ON YOU WORK IN MCKINNEY AND STUFF?
>> WHEN YOU GO DOWN WEST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD AND YOU TRY TO GET ON OUTER LOOP IN THE MORNING UNLESS YOU GOT BANKERS HOURS, HOW DIFFICULT IS IT FOR YOU TO GET ON THAT?
>> IT DEFINITELY IS. DEFINITELY TESTS YOUR PATIENTS.
I THINK THAT'S A MUSCLE WE CAN WORK ON.
UNFORTUNATELY, JUST NOT ON THE ROAD AT THAT INTERSECTION AT THAT TIME.
>> THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO CRAIG RANCH IN MCKINNEY.
I'VE HEARD IT'S AWESOME. DO YOU KNOW ROUND ABOUT HOW BIG IT IS? LIKE HOW MANY MILES OR CONES.
>> IT'S ACRES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS THERE.
THERE WAS A LAKINA THAT WAS PURCHASED FROM JAMES CRAIG AS WELL.
I'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY WITH THEM.
THEY'RE GREAT DEVELOPERS, IT'S JUST FOR SOME REASON, THEY'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE'RE NOT IN NIMBI NOT IN MY BACK.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO JUST OUTRIGHT SAY NO, BUT WHAT WE WANT IS A REASONABLE COMPROMISE.
WE HAVE TO LIVE HERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN FLEX ON ON REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY COULD LOOK AT.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE NEED THEM TO COME SIT WITH US IF THEY WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'VE HAD ODD TIMINGS, JANUARY 2ND NOW.
THERE'S ANOTHER ADJUSTMENT. HOPEFULLY, WE CAN WE CAN SEND A MESSAGE NOT TO SAY NO, BUT MORE TO SAY, HEY, YOU GUYS NEED TO GET IN LINE, YOU NEED TO RESPECT OUR TIME AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY HERE WHO CAME HERE.
CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS, DOG AND PONY, SHOE OVER AND OVER.
>> PLEASE HELP US FIND A SOLUTION AND LET'S GET TO A RESOLUTION.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, SIR.
THE LAST COMMENT I'LL MAKE, AND THIS IS FOR ALL OF US IS I KNOW BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF PECON GROVE AND THEN PECON GROVE TO THE NORTH.
EAST WEST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD.
IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES IN, NUMBER 1, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH CRAIG RANCH DOWN IN MCKINNEY. THERE'S NO WAY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR 4,000 HOMES COMPARED TO WHAT YOU COULD PUT ON HERE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT WOULD BE HARD TO COMPETE WITH THAT.
THE BIGGEST THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS HAVING YOU ALL BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF WEST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD ON THE OUTER LOOP IN THE MORNING TIME, AND THEN I ALSO DON'T WANT TO TAKE YOU FIVE HOURS TO GET HOME IN THE EVENING TOO. THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> NEXT UP, I HAVE MARIETTA SHELL.
>> MY NAME IS MARITA SHELL, AND I LIVE AT 2115 TAYLOR BOULEVARD HERE IN ANNA.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TODAY.
VISUALIZE WITH ME FOR A MOMENT.
IF WE LEAVE FOSTER CROSSING HEADING NORTH ON THE NEW FERGUSON EXTENSION, YOU WILL AVOID THE HEADACHE OF GOING TO 75 OR HIGHWAY 5 TO GET TO WHITE STREET.
THIS WILL GIVE YOU A QUICKER ACCESS TO PLACES LIKE BROOKSIS, GAS STATIONS, AND SCHOOLS, ETC.
THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.
IN DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET THIS DESIGN RIGHT.
ROADS ARE EXPENSIVE, AND WE ALL KNOW HOW BASIC GEOMETRY FROM BASIC GEOMETRY, BUT THE SHORTEST DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO POINTS IS A STRAIGHT LINE.
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THE CURVES IN THIS LAYOUT AND THE SOUTHWESTERLY DIRECTION IS BAD FOR SEVERAL REASONS.NUMBER 1, IT WILL COST MORE TO BUILD.
NUMBER 2, IT WILL PUT A BOTTLENECK OF TRAFFIC CLOSER TO FOSTER AND PECAN GROVE PHASE 1 ENTRANCE.
NUMBER 3, IT WILL ALSO BLAST THROUGH THE BEAUTIFUL PECAN ORCHARD AND UNNECESSARILY TEAR DOWN 50 PECAN TREES.
IT WILL UNNECESSARILY CREATE A LARGE TRIANGLE OF UNDEVELOPED REAL ESTATE FOR THE LAND OWNER.
THE PROPOSED STRAIGHT LINE DESIGN WILL BE A WIN WIN FOR ALL INVOLVED.
IT WILL BE A COST SAVINGS OF APPROXIMATELY $2,000,000 TO THE CITY.
IT WILL ALLOW FOR MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING COMMERCIAL INTERSECTION AT FOSTER CROSSING AND FERGUSON.
NUMBER 3, IT WILL ALLOW FOR CLOSER PROXIMITY TO LOCAL RETAIL SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, AND JOBS FOR LOCALS.
NUMBER 4, IT WILL BE A COST SAVINGS TO THE CITY TO NOT HAVE TO PAY MR. LESCOM FOR THE REMOVAL AND OR POSSIBLE RELOCATION AND PRODUCTION COST OF HIS 50 PECAN TREES.
AS A PROFESSIONAL, I CAN HONESTLY SAY THE STRAIGHT LINE DESIGN IS THE BEST, MOST COST EFFECTIVE ROUTE.
I, ALONG WITH OTHERS, AGREE WITH MR. CRAIG THAT THERE IS A LOT OF HYPOCRISY SURROUNDING THE FERGUSON EXTENSION.
I MYSELF CALLED MR. CRAIG TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE EMBARRASSING WAY OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, PNC, COMMISSIONERS, AND SOME OF OUR CITIZENS ACTED AND SPOKE AT OUR MEETINGS.
THIS IS A PATHETIC WAY TO SPEAK TO A RENOWNED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPER THAT IS A REPUTABLE MAN AND HE'S MAN OF HIS WORD.
THIS BEHAVIOR WAS HARD TO WATCH.
WE CAN AND SHOULD DO BETTER THAN THIS.
STOP THE RHETORIC AND QUIT USING NARRATIVES THAT ARE NOT TRUE TO DEFINE THIS PROJECT, WORDS LIKE CLUSTER, AND NOT IN MY BACKYARD AND HIGH DENSITY.
HAVE YOU SEEN THE LESLIE'S FRONT YARD LATELY? IN CLOSING, YOU HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITIZENS OF ANNA IN THE FACT THAT YOU WILL BE SAVING THE CITY APPROXIMATELY $2,000,000.
THERE IS ALSO A RESPONSIBILITY TO LOOK AT THE TAX BASE ANNA WOULD BE GAINING LONG TERM.
WE SHOULD ALL LOOK AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND NOT JUST AS ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE TAX BASE ALONE WOULD BENEFIT EVERYONE.
PLEASE, I IMPLORE YOU TO NOT USE THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS FOR POLITICAL GAIN IN MAKING YOUR DECISIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> NEXT UP, I'VE GOT STEVEN ON CAROL LANE.
>> I JUST CAN'T I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A P.
>> AGAIN I'M STEPHEN PIERCE.18 13, CAROLINE.
I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 10 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ANNA SINCE 2007.
I GUESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 60.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT IN DOING IT? WHAT DO WE GET DO WITH THE DEVELOPER? IS HE GIVING US ROAD OUT THERE? IS HE GIVEN US INFRASTRUCTURE? NOT ON HIS PROJECT FOR US.
THEY GIVE YOU CARE. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THREE ACRES FOR A PARK.
YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE SIX ACRES FOR A PARK AND YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD $2 MILLION FOR STRUCTURE.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF HIM BUILDING BACK THERE?
>> WE'RE NOT HAVING A DISCUSSION. WE'RE JUST LISTENING TO YOU.
>> TELL ME THE BENEFIT OF THEM BUILDING BACK THERE. WE GET A ROW?
>> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO JUST STARE AT YOU LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE'RE JUST ALLOWED TO GO LIKE BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, DO IT RIGHT.
BIG JOB YOU GOT, AND HAS GROWN MORE THAN THREE YEARS BIG JOB.
YOU GOT TO STRIKE ALL THE ONES OUT OF.
WE CAN'T JUST KEEP YOU GIVING.
WE GOT TO OTHER CITIES DO IT, WE CAN DO IT TOO.
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TAKE IT FROM.THEY WANT TO BUILD THAT PAD HERE, THEY DO.
BECAUSE DEVELOPERS WANT TO BUILD HERE.
OTHER CITIES DO, WE CAN DO IT TOO.
AS FAR AS IT NOT BEING LIKE CRAIG RANCH, BUT WE NEED TO SET THE PRESIDENT.
WE NEED TO DO IT NOW. YOU'RE IN A HARD POSITION. I GET IT.
I JUST I'LL GO TO ANYBODY CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL BENEFIT.
WHAT IS THE PERMIT FEE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CHARGED ON THAT? ANYBODY KNOW THAT? I DON'T SEE HOW MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PIERCE. NEXT UP, JIM LUSKIN.
>> I'M JIM LUSKIN LIVE AT 1303 WEST FOSTER CROSSING, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A HANDOUT THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU EARLIER.
WE RUN FOSTER CROSSES THE COS.
SOME OF YOU FOLKS OF MY CUSTOMERS TO APPRECIATE THAT.
WE'VE GOT 500 TREES THERE IN THE BOTTOM DOWN THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE DOTS ON THE MAP UP THERE, LITTLE DOTS ARE OUR TREES.
OUR ORCHARD AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL, OUR HOME AND OUR BARN AND ALL OUR EQUIPMENT IS AT THE TOP OF THE HILL.
WHAT I WANT TO TRY TO IMPRESS ON YOU TONIGHT IS ON THE SECOND PAGE IS THE EXISTING ALIGNMENT AND PLAN FOR THE FERGUSON EXTENSION ON OUT TO THE OUTER LOOP, GOING ACROSS THE PROPERTY DOWN THERE.
YES, WE ARE LOSING TREES, BUT WE AGREED TO LOSE THOSE TREES INSTEAD OF LOSING A WHOLE LOT OF TREES, AND WE AGREED TO LOSE A FEW TREES.
THAT WAS DONE BY ALL THE FAMILY ALL AT ONCE, AND NOW WE'VE GOT ONE OUTLIER THAT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
IF THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT JPI PRESENTED GOES THROUGH ON PAGE 3, THAT RED LINE IS WHERE IT WOULD GO IN BETWEEN WHERE WE LIVE IN OUR BARN AND THE ORCHARD.
THAT MEANS THAT I'VE GOT TO DRAG MY JOHN DEER 4020 TRACTOR AND SPRAYERS AND MOWERS ACROSS FOUR LANES OF HIGHWAY TO GET TO THE ORCHARD, THAT'S GOING TO BE PRE MUCH IMPRACTICAL.
THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY DETRIMENTAL TO OUR OPERATION, AND VERY LIKELY WE WILL PUT US OUT OF BUSINESS.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO STICK WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT YOU'VE GOT, THE FOSTER CROSS AND PECANS OPERATION, KEEP ME IN BUSINESS, VOTE FOR ME AND KEEP ME GOING INSTEAD OF VOTING FOR THE DEVELOPER AND KEEPING THE DEVELOPER MAKING MORE MONEY.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> LUSKIN, DO YOU MIND IF I ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS.
YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY REACHES OUT TO US.
>> GET A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM BOB.
>> YEAH, WE DO. MATTER OF FACT, THIS TIME AROUND, I COULDN'T RESPOND TO ALL OF THEM, BUT I DID READ EVERYTHING THAT WAS SENT.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST ENTERTAINING THE THOUGHT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ONE OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT'S BEING ASKED TO DO MULTI FAMILY.
I KNOW THAT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FOSTER CROSSING, I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH OFFERS AND REQUESTS.
I DOUBT ANYTHING BUT MULTI FAMILY, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> NO. THE ONES THAT ARE COMING TO US AND YOU'RE CORRECT.
WE DO GET QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH.
THE ONES THAT ARE COMING IN ARE PRIMARILY SPECULATORS THAT ARE WANTING TO PAY US $1 OVER 15 YEARS.
WE GET THE PAYOFF SOMEWHERE AT THE END.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT, COMMERCIAL STUFF ANTICIPATING THAT COMING DOWN WHEN FERGUSON COMES THROUGH, WHICH WOULD AND 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT IS PROBABLY WHAT WILL COME OUT.
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BUT THE FAMILY THAT IS THERE THERE.THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE SOUTH SIDE, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE EAST SIDE ARE WANTING TO HOLD IT AS IT IS.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO COMMERCIALIZE IT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR MULTI FAMILY.
YOU JUST LET US BE IN PEACE OUT THERE FOR A WHILE LONGER.
WE GAVE WHEN THE OUTER LOOP CAME THROUGH, THAT CUT US IN HALF.
ERS COMING THROUGH IS GOING TO CUT US IN HALF AGAIN.
YOU JUST GET SMALLER AND SMALLER.
VOTE FOR US. LET'S STAY THERE.
VOTE FOR YOUR NEIGHBOR, INSTEAD OF THE DEVELOPER.
THE DEVELOPER COMPLAINS THAT HE CAN'T BUILD SINGLE FAMILY BECAUSE HE CAN'T MAKE ENOUGH MONEY.
IT'S NOT OUR JOB FOR HIM TO MAKE MONEY.
>> HOW I DON'T WANT TO PLAY FAMILY FEUD? BECAUSE THIS PART OF HOW THIS HAS BEEN, THE NORTH SIDE VERSUS THE SOUTH SIDE, TO SOME DEGREE.
I DON'T WANT TO STOP THERE, BUT I HAVE A REQUEST.
>> IT'S A PRETTY TALL REQUEST.
YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO JUST WANTS TO SELL A PROPERTY AND GO BE WITH THE GRANDKIDS.
SHE'S GOT LEGACY HERE, JUST LIKE YOU DO.
I GUARANTEE I EAT AS MANY PECANS AS I EAT JELLIES.
>> WE APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE HEALTHY FOR YOU.
>> THEY'RE GREAT. ANYBODY WHO HAS NOT HAD LESCO PECANS.
YOU NEED TO GET SOME. IF YOU HADN'T HAD LESLIE'S LESCON FARM'S JELLY, YOU NEED TO GET SOME OF THAT TOO.
IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT THE PRICE IS.
IT'S A QUESTION OF PAYING A PRICE THAT YOU PUT THAT IN THERE, SO I THINK SOMEBODY COULD DEVELOP THAT WITH STATE SIZED LOTS.
I THINK SOMEBODY COULD GO TO THE REST OF US AND THE FAMILY MEMBERS TO THE EAST, MAYBE PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, MAKE A BETTER PACKAGE.
BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS IS THE DEVELOPERS OFFER THIS BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND THAT BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MULTI FAMILY TO MAKE IT PAY OFF.
NOW, THE CURRENT LAND OWNER WHO WILL RECEIVE SOME MONEY, CONSIDERABLE MONEY WHEN FERGUSON GOES THROUGH THERE.
THAT RIGHT AWAY JUST GET BOUGHT.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET A NICE CHECK OUT OF THAT.
THAT CHECK WILL GET THEM TO COLORADO, THAT CHECK WILL GET THEM TO THE GRAND KIDS.
MY GRANDKIDS LIVE OUT THERE TOO.
I LOVE ALL THE GRANDKIDS, BUT LET'S DON'T PUT THESE GRANDKIDS AHEAD OF THESE OTHER GRANDS.
>> I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND TAKE THIS COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE.
>> THAT IS TO LEAVE JUST LIKE IT IS. LEAVE YOU ALONE.
LET THAT COME THROUGH LIKE SUPPOSED TO, LIKE IT WAS AGREED TO BY ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS, JACK AT THAT TIME.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS WITH US AND THANK YOU.
>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? COUPLE FIRST SECOND, JIM.
I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT JUST SO EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED HERE?
>> THE FIRST PIECE OF LAND WAS BOUGHT UP THERE IN 1914, WASN'T ME.
BUT BUT I'VE BEEN ON THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY 20 YEARS.
MY FOLKS WERE ON THERE BEFORE THAT, MY GRANDPARENTS BEFORE THAT.. AS FAR AS, WHO'S GOT THE PLAN WITH LIVING ON THE LAND, I'M AS GOOD AS ANY OF THAT ARE LIVING OUT THERE TODAY.
>> WOULD YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THE PECAN GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT WAY BACK WHEN.
MATTER OF FACT, I WAS THERE WHEN THE GUY SAT DOWN WITH MY DEAR AUNT JOHNNY SAID, WILL YOU SELL ME THE LAND? AND, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE OKAY BASED ON THE DEVELOPER PROMISING ALL THIS ROSY STUFF.
PROMISING ALL THIS ROSY STUFF.
JUST LIKE I'LL MAKE THE POINT AT P AND Z, THE DEVELOPER TALKED ABOUT, I'M GOING TO BUILD THIS EXACT CONCEPT.
YOU'LL APPROVE THIS, I'LL BUILD THIS EXACT CONCEPT.
NOW I'M HERE AND HE'S COMING BACK TO YOU AND SAYING.
DON'T LET THEM BAIT AND SWITCH AS YOU SAID EARLIER.
IF THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE SOMETHING UP, THEY NEED TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK.
START AGAIN P AND Z, AND SEE IF THEY CAN GET APPROVED.
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>> THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT WERE AROUND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, A HANDFUL OF NEIGHBORS THAT WERE THERE WHEN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD GOT BUILT.
>> THE PECAN GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT, THERE WASN'T THAT MUCH NEIGHBORS HANGING OUT AND AROUND.
YOU DON'T REMEMBER ANY PROTESTING AT THAT POINT BECAUSE I'D HEARD THAT THERE WAS THAT THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE UPSET THAT IT WOULD CAUSE TRAFFIC.
IT WOULD BE. I'VE HEARD SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. THAT'S NOT.
>> I DON'T I DON'T RECALL THAT.
>> BECAUSE IF WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO TABLE IT OR WHETHER WE'RE NOT, AND THEN WE WON'T DRAG OUT THE ARGUMENTS ALL THE TIME.
BUT I WOULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT IF YOU WOULD TAKE LESLIE'S BACKYARD FRONT YARD PICTURES BEFORE PECAN GROVE AND LOOK AT IT NOW, I WOULD SAY HER NATURE HAD BEEN DISTURBED, AND SHE DIDN'T GET TO MAKE THAT CHOICE.
THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE ARGUMENT.
THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PREVIOUS PERSON THAT DOESN'T LIKE THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT.
I 100% AGREE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE DARN SURE THIS JOB GETS DONE RIGHT.
BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, I DO HAVE A TENDENCY TO SAY, IF THAT IS YOUR LAND AND YOU'RE NOT EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND OR SOLD AT SOME POINT, EVERYBODY ELSE MADE BIG MONEY.
I GET. I APPRECIATE THE HECK OUT OF SOMEBODY WANTING TO STAY HERE.
I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT'S EVERYBODY'S PREROGATIVE.
I THINK AS TIME GOES BY, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE DISRUPTED.
I LIVE MY THERE'S A CREEK THAT THERE'S 35 ACRES ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IT'S OWNED BY SOMEBODY ELSE. IT'S FOR SALE.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY BUSINESS TELLING THOSE PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR LAND.
AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ANYTHING IN THERE LIKE A TIRE RECYCLING PLANT OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE IT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, THOSE 750 HOUSES OR WHATEVER IT WAS, DISRUPTED SOMEBODY ELSE'S NATURE.
BUT PECAN GROVE WAS ORIGINALLY SOLD BY LESCO BY THE GANT FAMILY.
PHASE 2, 3, AND 4 BY THE GANT FAMILY.
ALL ONE BIG MASTER PLAN THING, AND THEN THE SCORE BURG, WENT UNDER, SOLD IT OFF.
IT'S NOT DISTURBING ANYBODY THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE OR THERE WAS THERE WAS NOBODY THERE TO PROTEST.
MAYBE THE ANIMALS, BUT THERE WAS NOBODY THERE TO PROTEST.
WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT LESLIE'S PROPERTY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ON THAT JUST GOT ON THE FAMILY TRUST AND GOT THIS PROPERTY THREE YEARS AGO.
>> BUT THAT'S ON OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT.
>> THAT'S ON OUR BUSINESS, THOUGH.
>> TO PUT HIS DEAR OLD GRANDMA IN THE RETIREMENT HOME, AND THE REST OF THE FAMILY IS TRYING TO REST THAT CONTROL BACK AWAY FROM THEM.
>> THERE'S GOES BACK TO THE FAMILY FEW.
>> FAMILY FEW, THERE'S SOME BAD DOING GOING ON THERE.
WE DON'T CARE TO NOT ALL THAT STUFF OUT THERE, BUT JUST DO WHAT WAS STAY WITH WHAT WAS AGREED TO.
KEEP THE ALIGNMENT LIKE IT IS.
LET HIM FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT SINGLE FAMILY OUT THERE, WHAT IT'S ENTITLED TO.
OR IF CRAIG IS SUCH AS GLORIOUS GUY, LET HIM COME WITH A BIGGER PICTURE THAN 37 ACRES.
LET HIM TRY TO BROKER SOMETHING.
THERE'S A PATH THERE PERHAPS IS A PATH IN THERE.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, LET ME STAY IN THE PECAN BUSINESS.
LET ME KEEP GIVING YOU SEVEN PECANS TO YOU.
THESE ARE THE BEST PECANS YOU CAN FIND ANYWHERE.
DON'T MAKE ME TRY TO CROSS FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC AND HAVE A SCHOOL BUS RUN ME OVER ONE DAY.
>> NEXT UP, I'VE GOT TONY BELFON.
I LIVE AT 2934 PECAN GROVE DRIVE.
IT FEELS LIKE I WAS JUST HERE A LITTLE BIT TALKING TO YOU ALL ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROJECT.
NOW, COUNCILMAN ASKED ABOUT TRAFFIC GETTING OUT OF WEST FOSTER CROSSING.
05:00 IN THE MORNING TO 8:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU'RE VERY LUCKY IF YOU CAN GET OUT.
IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT ON 75, BOY, YOU'RE IN TROUBLE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE SAY, LIKE A 10:00 APPOINTMENT IN MCKINNEY.
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COUNCILMAN STAN SAID THAT IN RENTAL APARTMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THERE'S CRIME.THAT'S TRUE. ASK THE POLICE CHIEF.
WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THEIR COMMUNITY, THERE'S GOING TO BE CRIME. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE.
INFRASTRUCTURES NEEDS TO BE THERE.
THE LADY TALKED ABOUT ECONOMIC GROWTH TO THE CITY.
I'M NOT SEEING IT, BUT TAXES KEEP GOING UP.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALSO HUMAN DEVELOPMENT.
HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT US? WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE BY AN AIRPORT, YOU CAN'T EXPECT THERE TO BE NO AIRPLANES.
WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE IN A RURAL AREA, YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING TOWN HOUSES AND OTHER MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS.
I'VE LIVED IN PECAN GROVE FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS.
I REALLY THINK THAT WE COULD DO BETTER THAN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, I HEARD MR. CRAIG, BUT BEFORE I GO BACK THERE, THE LADY THAT SPOKE EARLIER SAID THAT WE DISRESPECTED HIM.
I FEEL HE DISRESPECTED US AND THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.
AFTER THE MEETING HE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW HE HAD TO PUT IN 16 UNITS FOR DEVELOPMENT SO HE WOULD MAKE SOME MONEY.
IT DOESN'T HELP THE RESIDENTS OF PECAN GROVE IN MAKING MONEY.
IT'S ALL OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
YOU HEARD JIM WITH THE PECANS.
YOU'VE HEARD OTHER SPEAKERS BRING UP THINGS, AND WE WENT TO A RURAL AREA.
I'M NOT GOING TO BRING UP THE TREES AGAIN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING ON IN ANNA COMPLETELY AND SEE IF WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH IT.
ARE WE GOING TO WIND UP WITH A POST OFFICE THAT WAS LIKE MELISSA WHERE THEY WERE SORTING MAIL IN THE TENTS? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH FIRE AND POLICE PROTECTION? ARE OUR SCHOOLS GOING TO BE FUNDED AND EDUCATION AT THE TOP OF THE TEXAS AREA, NOT SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT ALL THE CONSEQUENCES THAT COME WITH DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE TO TAKE IN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.
THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE IS AS IMPORTANT AS NEW PEOPLE COMING IN.
I ASK YOU TO TABLE THIS MOTION TO CONTINUE BECAUSE NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME THAT IT WAS DEFEATED, NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED FROM THE 2050 BUILDING PLAN.
I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT THIS GUY MIGHT BE A TOP DEVELOPER.
BUT WHAT'S HE GOING TO DO FOR US? HE HAS NOT COME BACK AND ASKED US ANYTHING AS RESIDENTS.
HE DID HAVE ONE OPEN HOUSE A LONG TIME AGO THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ATTENDED AND WEREN'T HAPPY WITH THE PLANS, BUT HE KEEPS PULLING FORWARD.
NOW, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, I GOT A NOTICE FOR THE LAST MEETING OF THEM THAT THEY APPLIED ON 26 DECEMBER.
I ALSO THINK THAT THEM NOT BEING HERE AFTER A LOT OF US SAT THROUGH THE FIRST PROCEEDINGS SO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HERE AT 9:00, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE ARE AGAINST HIS PROJECT AND YOU PEOPLE NEED TO PROTECT US AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY OF ANNA.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE WATCHING THE CITY OF ANNA.
WE DON'T WANT UNCONTROLLED GROWTH.
WE NEED ECONOMICS, WE NEED MORE BUSINESSES, AND WE NEED A SUPER QUALITY OF LIFE AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING IN NEW PARKS, YOU'RE PUTTING IN WALKING TRAILS, AND IT'S FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE FUTURE CITIZENS.
IT'S FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL OF US.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WHERE WE'RE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, I WOULDN'T WANT A FACTORY GOING UP.
I DON'T WANT WORKOUT AREAS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE WALKING TRAIL GOING BEHIND MY HOUSE IN PECAN GROVE SO I CAN GO FOR A WALK AND DO WHATEVER I WANT OUT THERE.
BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE ON TOP OF THE HILL LOOKING AT ME OR MY NEIGHBORS. WE'RE CLOSE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THE PEOPLE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE RENTERS OR NOT.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TURNOUT, THERE'S A BONDING HERE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT JUST ARE VERY CONCERNED.
THEY TALKED ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO WEST FOSTER CROSSING.
I DON'T SEE TAKING DOWN THE TREES AS AN IMPROVEMENT.
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JUST DESTROY THE TREES AND DESTROY A WAY OF LIFE THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE, WHETHER IT BE A YEAR OR TEN YEARS OR MORE.I PLEASE HOPE AS ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS, WHICH I AM AND YOU'RE ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, THAT YOU TAKE IN CONSIDERATION OF EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON HERE AND WHY ALL OF US ARE HERE TALKING WITH YOU.
>> NEXT, I HAVE EDWARD CULLUM.
>> BEFORE I START MY PRESENTATION PROPER, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO COUNCILMAN BILLS, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR CRAIG RANCH QUANTITY.
WE'RE ASKING FOR CRAIG RANCH QUALITY.
I'M GOING TO ASSUME THE COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE JPI'S PLAN VIOLATES IT.
I'VE INCLUDED SLIDES 1 THROUGH 8 TO PROVE THAT, BUT QUICKLY PLEASE GO TO SLIDE 4.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS ZONING CHANGES THAT CONFLICT WITH IT ONLY IF THEY OFFER A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC BENEFIT.
THE TOWN HOMES ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
THEY'RE UNWANTED BY ANNA'S NEIGHBORS AS YOU CAN SEE HERE TONIGHT AND THEY WOULD DAMAGE THE VITALITY OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
PLEASE REVIEW SLIDES 1 THROUGH 8 AT YOUR CONVENIENCE LATER AFTER THE SPEECH.
PLEASE MOVE NOW TO SLIDE 9 AND PLEASE REMOVE IT FROM THE PRESENTATION SO YOU CAN HAVE IT NEXT TO YOU AS WE GO THROUGH THE REST AND LOOK AT THE MAPS. IT'S GOING TO BECOME IMPORTANT.
ON SLIDE 10, PLEASE CONTRAST WHAT JPI AND JAMES CRAIG THEMSELVES PREVIOUSLY SAID WAS IMPORTANT WITH THEIR CURRENT SITE PLAN.
THIS SLIDE, SLIDE 10, OUTLINES OUR PRIVACY CONCERNS THAT JPI ONCE, BUT NO LONGER, TRY TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
JPI MADE IT CLEAR ON FOUR OCCASIONS THAT THEY HAD STUDIED THE SITE LINES AND PUSHED THE BUILDINGS FURTHER AWAY TO AVOID ANYONE LOOKING AT OUR BACKYARDS.
THEY EVEN SAID, "WHEN WE'RE BUILDING THIS CLOSE TO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT BUILDING ON TOP OF SOMEBODY".
THE LANGUAGE JPI ONCE USED CONTRASTS SHARPLY WITH THEIR UPDATED SITE PLAN.
DISTANCES THAT ONCE RANGED FROM 67 FEET TO 210 FEET HAVE ALL BEEN REDUCED TO THE WIDTH OF A SINGLE TREE.
IN JANUARY 6 AS P&Z MEETING, THEY CONFIRMED THAT THE NORTHWEST MOST TOWN HOME WILL BE BUILT ON TOP OF A 15 FOOT HILL, NOT BEHIND IT.
EVERYONE WILL BE LOOKING AT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
GREEN SPACE ON SLIDE 11 WAS ONCE A MAJOR SELLING POINT FROM JPI ON THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN.
JAMES CRAIG HIMSELF MADE REFERENCE TO IT ONCE AND JPI TOUTED IT FOUR SEPARATE TIMES.
LOOK AT THE UPDATED SITE PLAN ON SLIDE 9.
THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE.
THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE ON THE SOUTH BESIDE A SMALL UNUSABLE DETENTION POND.
JPI WHO ONCE TOUTED ALL THE EXTRA GREEN SPACE THEY WEREN'T LEGALLY REQUIRED TO INCLUDE IS NOW ASKING YOU FOR AN EXEMPTION TO GO 52% BELOW THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THAT THEY ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO INCLUDE, AND OF THAT GREEN SPACE, SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT IS GREEN SPACE IN NAME ONLY.
NO ONE CAN USE A DETENTION POND.
IF YOU CONSIDER ONLY USABLE GREEN SPACES, PROPERTY HAS VIRTUALLY NONE.
COUNCILMAN CARVER, LAST TIME YOU SAID, AND I WILL QUOTE YOU ON THIS, "I WAS REALLY SURPRISED TO SEE HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE THERE IS".
WE'VE HAD OTHER ITEMS PRESENTED FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT HAVE BEEN VERY DENSE, AND THIS IS NOT. IT IS NOW.
JPI ONCE HAD A LOT OF GREEN SPACE.
THEY'VE REMOVED EVERY POSITIVE QUALITY ABOUT GREEN SPACE, AND THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHEN THEY REMOVED IT.
THEY WENT TO THE P&Z MEETING, THEY WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THIS SUDDEN REQUEST TO TABLE IT BASED ON GREEN SPACE IS MADE IN BAD FAITH.
THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING, THEY DID IT ANYWAY.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED WITH A TABLE.
THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE WITH A DENIAL. SLIDE 13.
JAMES CRAIG SAID TOWNHOMES, THEY USED TO HAVE PLANNED WERE PLANTED, HE SAID, "WE PLATTED THEM SEPARATELY SO THEY HAD
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THE ABILITY IN THE FUTURE TO BE A FOR SALE PRODUCT".ONE OF IF NOT THE BEST FEATURES OF THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN WAS AN OPTION FOR OWNERSHIP HAS BEEN STRIPPED FROM THE UPDATED SITE PLAN.
PLEASE LOOK THROUGH THE REST OF THOSE SLIDES AT YOUR CONVENIENCE AS WELL.
JUST BRIEFLY ON SLIDE 14, JPI AND JAMES CRAIG BOTH MENTIONED TO P&Z ON JANUARY 6 THAT THEY'VE LISTENED TO OUR FEEDBACK AND HAVE MADE CHANGES.
JPI SAID, "WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THAT PLAN AND THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL, THE NEIGHBORS, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF ADDRESSING THOSE AND ALTERING IT IN THIS PLAN THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY".
THEY HAVE NOT. THE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AT THE P&Z WENT FROM 20 THE FIRST TIME THEY CAME OUT TO WELL OVER 40 THE SECOND TIME.
IF THEY ARE TRYING TO LISTEN TO OUR FEEDBACK, THEY'RE GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION.
AS YOU HEARD FROM MANNY SINGH, THEY'RE NOT TALKING TO US, NO MATTER WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TO YOU ALL, THEY'RE NOT TALKING TO US.
LASTLY, THE VERY LAST THING I'LL SAY ON THIS IS THAT TO SUMMARIZE TOWN HOMES VIOLATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE UPDATED SITE PLAN IS WORSE THAN THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN IN ALMOST EVERY WAY.
THIS PLAN DESERVES TO BE VOTED DOWN.
THEY TOOK AWAY THE PARTS THE COMMUNITY THOUGHT WERE BEST.
THEY TOOK AWAY THE PARTS THAT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THOUGHT WERE BEST.
JPI KNOWS HOW BAD THIS PLAN IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EVEN SHOW UP TO DEFEND IT.
DON'T REWARD THEM WITH A TABLE, HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, MAKE SURE THEY DEAL WITH US IN GOOD FAITH, DENY THIS PLAN.
MAKE THEM GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
NOT PART OF MY SPEECH FROM MAR CANE, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SPEAK BEFORE YOUR MOTION TO TABLE OR DENY, NOT AFTER. THANK YOU.
>> NOT A PROBLEM. NEXT UP, CARYL CULBERTSON.
>> AREN'T YOU GLAD I DIDN'T FALL DOWN ON.
[LAUGHTER] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
I LIVE AT 10429 COUNTY ROAD 289 IN ANNA.
THIS COUNSEL HAS SOUGHT OUT AND SECURED, ENGAGED THE SERVICES OF QUALIFIED ATTORNEY, AND WE SAW EVIDENCE JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT YOU PAID ATTENTION TO WHAT HE TOLD YOU TO DO.
HE IS YOUR ADVISOR ON LEGAL MATTERS.
YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS YOUR ADVISORY COMMISSION THAT YOU HAVE APPOINTED TO ADVISE YOU ON PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS.
THERE'S A STATEMENT IN THE AGENDA ITEM THAT STATES, "AT THE JANUARY 6, 2025 MEETING, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THIS ITEM AS IT IS PRESENTED".
THEY ARE YOUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY ARE YOUR ADVISORY PEOPLE, AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE PAY ATTENTION WHEN THEY ADVISE YOU AGAINST ACCEPTING THIS ITEM THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK, SIR. [APPLAUSE] NEXT CARD I HAVE IS STEVEN SMITH.
>> NOW, THAT TAKES ME TO BETTY SHARP.
>> SHARP 10282 COUNTY ROAD 288 WHILE IT'S LATE.
I KNOW YOU'RE ALL GOING TO ENJOY THEN THE ARITHMETIC PUZZLE, I'M GOING TO PUT BEFORE YOU.
BUT I FIRST WANT TO SAY, TWO YEARS FOR A DEVELOPER PUTTING TIME INTO THIS, THAT'S JUST THE COST OF BUSINESS.
I DOUBT IF THAT HAS FINANCIALLY HAD THAT DEVELOPER IN ANY LENGTH.
THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE A STAFF FOR.
THERE'S MANY MORE YEARS IN HOME VALUATION FOR THESE PECAN GROVE RESIDENTS THAN TWO YEARS, AND I'M WILLING TO BET THEIR HOME IS THEIR MAJOR ASSET.
ON JANUARY 6TH, P&Z, MR. CRAIG WAS ASKED WHY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES COULDN'T GO ON THIS LAND AND HE
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SAID THAT A DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO HAVE 100 LOTS OR 80 LOTS TO MAKE A PROFIT ON THIS LAND.HE USED PULTE AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE DEVELOPER HE SPOKE TO.
WELL, I CALLED PULTE AND I ASKED THEM AT ANNA TOWN SQUARE WHAT THEIR SQUARE FOOT LOTS WERE? THEY HAVE TWO SIZES,7200 AND 6,000.
THE 260 TOWN HOMES WOULD GO ON 18.5 ACRES NET OR ABOUT 805,900 SQUARE FEET.
ON THAT AMOUNT OF LAND, PULTE COULD FIT 177 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS OR ABOUT 114 7,200 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
THE POINT IS, THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THEY WANT TO CRAM, 260 TOWN HOMES ON COULD HOLD 100 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
OF EITHER SIZE, AND THAT WOULD EVEN GIVE MORE GREEN SPACE.
NOW, WHEN I CALLED PULTE, I ASKED THEM WHAT THEIR ACREAGE WAS IN REGARD TO THE HOMES.
THE SALESPERSON MISUNDERSTOOD AND SAID, WE DON'T DO LOTS ON ACREAGE, BUT PEOPLE CALL US ABOUT IT.
MY NEXT QUESTION THEN WAS, ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT PEOPLE CALL YOU ASKING FOR LOTS ON ACREAGE? THIS IS THEIR QUOTE.
"WE GET CALLS EVERY DAY LOOKING FOR ACREAGE HOMES".
ISN'T THAT INTERESTING? THIS LAND IS SUITABLE FOR HOMES ON LARGE LOTS AND ACRES.
DEVELOPERS ARE CIRCLING AROUND ME EVERY DAY.
IF I KILL OVER HERE TONIGHT, LET ME TELL YOU THE BUZZARDS ARE GOING TO LAND.
I'M ALL FOR MAKING A BUCK FROM LAND.
THE DIFFERENCE IS, I WANT TO STAY HERE BECAUSE I'M NOT DONE ANNOYING PEOPLE YET IN ANNA, AND THIS IS MY HOMETOWN.
BUT YEAH, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A RIGHT TO MAKE A BUCK.
BUT I'M TELLING YOU AGAIN, GENTLEMEN, AND GENTLE WOMEN, THEY CAN MAKE A BUCK WITH BEAUTIFUL HOMES ON ACREAGE.
HARPER ESTATES IN SALINA OPENED THIS MONTH.
THEIR ACREAGE LOTS ARE 1.1 ACRES, AND DO YOU KNOW THE DAY THEY OPENED, THEY SOLD A FOURTH OF THEIR LOTS IN ONE DAY WITHOUT HOMES ON IT.
I TRIED TO GET THE EXACT FIGURE, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TIME FOR RESEARCH.
BUT YOU KNOW THOSE HOMES ON ACREAGE ON 33 56, JUST ON ONE ACRE ARE GOING FOR 750,000 UP.
COME ON. EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A BUCK.
THE DEVELOPERS WELCOME TO THE BUCK, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS WELCOME TO THE BUCK, BUT THESE PECAN GROVE HOME OWNERS NEED TO PROTECT THEIR ASSETS, WHICH IS LARGELY THEIR HOME VALUE.
IF YOU DENY THIS AS YOU SHOULD, YOU WILL BE SENDING A MESSAGE TO DEVELOPERS, THAT THEY CAN'T JUST COME IN AND DO ANYTHING THEY WANT, STOP MOVING THE LINE.
THIS DEVELOPMENT PECAN GROVE WAS PROMISED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT.
BY THE WAY, IF YOU GET LARGER HOMES ON ACREAGE, YOU WILL STILL HAVE A TAX BASE AND YOU'LL HAVE THE CLIENTELE THAT YOU WANT FOR THE DESTINATION DOWNTOWN BECAUSE AS ROBIN LUSCOMBE POINTED OUT, BUS LOADS OF PEOPLE, COME TO MARTHA'S IRIS GARDEN AND TO PECAN FOSTER PONS.
I DON'T THINK TWO YEARS IS MUCH IN THE WAY OF COST OF BUSINESS FOR TIME FOR MR. CRAIG.
NO DISRESPECT INTENDED, BUT RESPECT THE PECAN GROVE RESIDENTS.
THAT TREE SERVICE REPORT I PROVIDED YOU LAST MONTH, TEXAS A&M.
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FOREST SERVICE, IT TELLS YOU WHAT ECONOMIC BENEFITS KEEPING ALL THOSE TREES WILL HAVE FOR THIS ENTIRE CITY AND WHAT HEALTH DETRIMENTS CUTTING THOSE TREES DOWN WILL CAUSE AND WHAT IT WILL DO TO OUR WATER SUPPLY.THEY CAN ALL MAKE MONEY AND NOT HURT THE CURRENT RESIDENTS.
>> THANK YOU, MISS SHARMAN. I DO HAVE TWO OTHER CARDS THEY DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT I WILL READ THEIR NAMES AARON MASSENE AND HEATHER MOLLY B, BOTH IN OPPOSITION OF THIS.
I'M SORRY. DID I SAY IT WRONG? YES, I DID SAY IT WRONG. I APOLOGIZE.
IF THIS DOES GET TABLED, THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS, AS ALL WELL KNOW.
IF THIS DOES GET TABLED, THEY'VE BEEN UP HERE PLENTY OF TIMES.
WE'VE ALWAYS, AS A COUNCIL, FOR THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN UP HERE.
THE MORE PEOPLE IN THE SEATS, IT AFFECTS THE WAY WE VOTE.
IF I'M NOT TABLE ON IT, IF YOU GUYS VOTE TO TABLE IT, DON'T LET THAT CHANGE YOU IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED OF SHOWING UP OR THEY CAN'T GET ANOTHER BABYSITTER OR THEY CAN'T ASK FOR ANOTHER DAY OFF BECAUSE WE TABLED IT AGAIN.
REMEMBER HOW MANY TIMES THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF US IN FRONT OF P&Z.
I ASKED THIS TOO, ONE MORE POINT TO ARGUE OR TWO.
WE ARE NOW AT A POINT ANNA IS, WE CAN SAY NO.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S NOT SAYING NO TO CRAIG'S, AND THEY'RE A BAD DEVELOPER, IT'S JUST SAYING NO, WE DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE CAN SAY NO, AND REMEMBER, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BENEFIT THE ROAD NEXT TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT ON FOSTER CROSSING.
WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF IT? WE HAVE NO PLAN IN PLACE WITH THE COUNTY OR FOR THE CITY TO MAKE IT FIT CORRECTLY.
THAT'S ALL I ASKED. THAT GOT TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR VOTE THIS EVENING TO TABLE IT.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU 100%, AND I'LL SAY THIS, IF WE'RE SETTING UP HERE AND WE'RE VOTING, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
NUMBER 1, IF YOU'RE SITTING UP HERE AND YOU'RE VOTING TO TRY TO GET VOTES, THAT AIN'T RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT HERE.
WE'RE NOT RUNNING FOR CONGRESS, WE'RE NOT PAID.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO SIT HERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST BECAUSE YOU THINK A MUCH PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME OUT AND VOTE FOR YOU, THAT'S WRONG.
NUMBER 2, EVERYBODY THAT HAS COME HERE MULTIPLE TIMES AND VOICED THEIR OPINIONS, IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP THE NEXT TIME, AND WE USE THAT TO OUR ADVANTAGE, YOU'RE JUST AS BAD AS THE PERSON THAT'S VOTING TO TRY TO GET VOTES BECAUSE THEY VOICED THEIR OPINION, THEY'VE COME UP HERE, THEY'VE GAVE ALL THEIR POINTS, WHETHER I AGREE WITH YOUR POINTS OR NOT, YOU'VE COME UP HERE AND YOU GIVE THEM, AND I'M NOT GOING TO DISCOUNT THAT IF YOU CAN'T GET HERE ONE NIGHT BECAUSE YOU GOT TO TAKE YOUR KIDS TO A BASKETBALL GAME.
I WOULD NEVER DO THAT IN 1 MILLION YEARS.
I'M GOING TO VOTE THE SAME WAY I ALWAYS VOTE, AND I'VE BEEN STEADY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND I'LL BE STEADY TILL I'M DONE IN JUNE.
I'M GOING TO VOTE THE SAME WAY EVERY SINGLE TIME BECAUSE DEVELOPERS DESERVE THAT, THE PUBLIC DESERVES THAT.
IF THEY LOOK AT ME AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T AGREE WITH HIM, BUT AT LEAST I KNOW WHERE HE STANDS.
THEN THAT'S ALL THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK FOR AND THAT'S ALL THAT I CAN GIVE THEM.
I WILL TELL YOU FROM ME TO YOU, I DO WANT TO TABLE THIS, AND MISS BETTY, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THEY'VE SPENT TWO YEARS WORTH OF MONEY, AND IT'S PROBABLY A DROP IN THE BUCKET TO THEM, BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND MORE.
IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND MORE, LET THEM GIVE IT A SHOT, AND THEN IF THEY COME BACK HERE AND WE VOTE THEM DOWN, THEN WE VOTE THEM DOWN.
IF WE VOTE THEM IN, THEN WE VOTE THEM IN.
BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO TABLE IT, TAKE THE TIME TO GO BACK AND TO TRY TO CHANGE SOME THINGS AND BRING THAT UP HERE, AND THEN IF THEY GET VOTED DOWN AGAIN, THEN THEY GET VOTED DOWN AGAIN.
WE'VE LET MANY DEVELOPERS TABLE THINGS. MANY.
>> WHAT ARE THEY CHANGING TO BENEFIT THE CITY?
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>> [OVERLAPPING] WE DON'T KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
>> I CAN TELL YOU THIS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TAX MONEY.
THE JPI IS ALREADY ASKING FOR TAX CREDITS, SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THAT?
>> IF YOU WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT, KEVIN, VOTE AGAINST IT.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU YOU BROUGHT UP YOUR CONCERNS.
YOUR CONCERNS WERE, HEY, IF THE PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP AND THEY'RE NOT BOISTEROUS. WELL, HERE'S THE THING.
IF YOU'RE TAKING YOUR VOTE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOUD AND VOISTEROUS, AND YOU THINK THEY'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE SITTING UP HERE.
BECAUSE ARE YOU GOING TO BE INTIMIDATED FROM SOMEBODY YELLING AT YOU OR COMING UP HERE AND GETTING UP AT THE DICE AND SCREAMING AT YOU AND CUSTOM?
>> I'M NOT SAYING YOU ARE, YOU KNOW WHAT AM SAYING.
[OVERLAPPING]. KEVIN, LISTEN, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.
I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU, I'M GOING TO VOTE THE WAY THAT I'M GOING TO VOTE, AND IF THE PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP AND THEY'RE NOT VOISTEROUS, I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD THAT AGAINST THEM.
I'M HERE WITH YOU. I'M AGREEING WITH YOU [INAUDIBLE].
>> BECAUSE IF THEY ALL DON'T SHOW UP BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED.
>> THEN THAT SHOULDN'T MATTER A BIT OF DIFFERENT, WE SHOULD VOTE THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING.
>> THAT'S ALL I ASK. SOME PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY.
>> THAT'S NOT RIGHT. JUST LIKE IF 1,000 OF THEM COME UP HERE AND START SCREAMING AT US AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO VOTE FOR IT ANYWAYS, AND THEY'RE SCREAMING AT US TO VOTE FOR IT, THEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT, THEN YOU SHOULD VOTE AGAINST IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO COMES UP HERE AND SCREAMS. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO VOTE.
>> I THINK WHERE WE WERE, WE HAD A MOTION TO TABLE, BUT CLARK INFORMED US THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE DATE AND TIME OF WHEN THAT IS.
I'LL LET LEG GO AHEAD AND DO THAT MOTION FOR THOSE OF US WHO WANTS TO DO.
>> YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL THE MARCH 11 2025.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT HERE, 6:00 P.M.
I NEED THE ADDRESS TO SITING IN THE CITY HALL IS THAT ENOUGH?
>> IT DOES NOT INCLUDE CONTINUING AND HOLDING OPEN THE PUBLIC HEAR.
>> CONTINUING OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. GOOD. YEAH.
>> I HAVE A MOTION MY COUNCIL MEMBER MILLER, SECOND AND MY COUNCIL MEMBER, BAKER SORRY.
>> ALL NIGHT. I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.
I MAY NOT LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, BUT I LIVE IN THE SAME CITY AS THEM AND IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT WE REPRESENT EVERYONE THAT'S IN THIS ROOM AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO STANDS TO BENEFIT OR LOSE FROM THIS.
ON FRIDAY, I HAVE A LUNCHEON WITH JAMES CRAIG, BEING VERY OPEN AND TRANSPARENT WITH THAT.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY OF ANNA AT ALL.
BUT I DO INTEND AFTER THAT LUNCHEON TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF ONE ON ONE TIME WITH THEM TO TALK ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED THIS EVENING.
ORIGINALLY, THEY WERE GOING TO TABLE IT FOR JUST TWO WEEKS.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT TWO MONTHS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO TAKE BACK TO HIM.
SOME OF IT WILL BE FAVORABLE AND SOME OF IT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET UPSET, BUT I'M HOPING THAT THIS DEVELOPER DOES RESPECT THE CITY OF ANNA, DOES RESPECT THE RESIDENTS OF PECAN GROVE, DOES RESPECT ALL FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE LUSKAN FAMILY IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, AND THEN COMES BACK AND SURPRISES US WITH SOMETHING GRAND.
I KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE WANTING SOMETHING GRAND.
I'M HOPING THAT HE WILL BRING SOMETHING GRAND, AND LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
>> I'M GOING TO NEED YOUR MOTION FOR RECORD.
>> MOTION PASSES SIX TO ONE, ONE NOT BEING COUNCIL MEMBER ATTORNEY THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS EXTENDED TO MARCH 11.
BEFORE WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, I DO WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME UP THERE AND EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T ALL HAVE TO AGREE, BUT WE NEED TO RESPECT EACH OTHER, AND I RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS CARE ENOUGH TO COME UP HERE LATE AT NIGHT AND MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
>> THAT BEING SAID, ITEM NUMBER 7 IS CLOSED SESSION.
[7. Closed Session (Exceptions)]
UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551,[02:05:01]
THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ANY ITEMS LISTED OR REFERENCE ON THIS AGENDA UNDER THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.072, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.087, AND TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.074. DO I HAVE A MOTION?I>> HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNDON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MILLER.
WE'RE IN CLOSED SESSION. READY, GRACE? IT'S 11 11, SEEING NO OBJECTION, WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.