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>> WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY,
[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]
APRIL 1ST, 2024.WE HAVE EVERYONE PRESENT, SO QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. COMMISSIONER BLANSCET.
>> FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN TOGETHER THIS EVENING.
FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE CELEBRATION THIS WEEKEND WHERE WE CELEBRATED THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF YOUR SON, JESUS.
FATHER, I PRAY FOR THIS SPRING AND WE HAVE GOOD WEATHER AND LITTLE TO NO DAMAGE, AND EVERYBODY STAYS HEALTHY IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU. NOW WE MOVE ON TO NEIGHBORS COMMENTS.
[3. Neighbor Comments]
AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM ON THIS MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING.ALSO, AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THIS MEETING AGENDA.
PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND NOT TO THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS OR ANY APPLICANTS PRESENT.
EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS, ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A NEIGHBOR'S INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. NOW, WE'LL HAVE A REPORT FROM THE COUNCIL LIAISON REGARDING PLANNING POLICY AND PROCEDURE.
>> THIS IS REALLY DIFFERENT BEING ON THIS SIDE OF THIS THING.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET USED TO THIS.
ANYWAY, I'M LEE MILLER, OBVIOUSLY.
I'M THE PLANNING AND ZONING LIAISON.
I JUST WANT TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
GOING OUT AND DOING THIS, YOU'RE UNELECTED OFFICIALS AND YOU'RE APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL, AND HONESTLY, THAT LAST MEETING WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A TRICKY ONE TO NAVIGATE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU ALL PUT IN.
THE COUNCIL HAS ASKED ME TO COME UP HERE AND SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE PRESENTED GOING FORWARD.
ONE OF THOSE IS THE LAND USE PLAN.
WHEN WE DID THE LAND USE PLAN BACK IN 2020, WE WERE PLAYING SOME CITY, A LITTLE BIT, SOME OF Y'ALL MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
WE WERE LOOKING OVER THE GENERAL SCHEME OF THINGS AND WHAT'S GOING ON NOW AND WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
BUT WE DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT BECAME CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE MARKET? WE DIDN'T KNOW.
IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID AT THAT POINT, ANYTHING COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
THE SECOND THING WAS WE REALLY DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, THERE WAS NO WAY TO DO THIS.
WHO OWNS THE LAND? THAT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT AS WELL.
THAT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO NECESSARILY BE A BIBLE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHAPTER 213, IN THE GOVERNMENT CODE, IT INDICATES THAT THIS IS JUST A GUIDELINE.
THE STAFF TELLS YOU IN OUR REPORTS THAT IT FITS THE PLAN OR IT DOESN'T FIT THE PLAN OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S NOT INTENDED TO GO MAKE STRICTLY ZONING DECISIONS BASED ON THAT.
TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT GOING FORWARD, THAT MAYBE THAT WASN'T THE INTENT OF THE LAND USE PLAN.
IT WAS JUST TO GIVE US A GUIDELINE.
THE OTHER THING WOULD GENERALLY BE WE GET THE READ OF THE ROOM ABOUT ANY MULTIFAMILY, ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON THERE.
I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY HAVE TO MAKE POLITICAL DECISIONS.
YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT STUFF.
THAT WE GOT TO TAKE THE HEAT FOR THAT AND WE ARE TAKING THE HEAT FOR IT AND IT'S FINE.
BUT JUST TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU'RE UP HERE THAT, WHAT WE END UP DOING IS WE'RE FORCED IN SOME WAYS, TO END UP MAKING A DECISION AFTER WE HAVE TO OVERRULE SOMETHING BASED ON PROJECTS.
THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE COME BEFORE US.
ESSENTIALLY, THEY'VE MET WITH US, WE'VE ALREADY DONE MONTHS AND MONTHS OF FEEDBACK, GOING BACK AND FORTH, TELLING THEM SOME DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
WE'VE DONE ALL OF THAT ALREADY.
I'M NOT SAYING BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, THERE'S A RUBBER STAMP.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A RUBBER STAMP.
DO YOUR DILIGENCE, LOOK THROUGH THE PLANS, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS COPACETIC ON THEM,
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AND DO WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT DOES.BUT PLEASE DON'T MAKE THE POLITICAL DECISION AND PUT US IN A BIND.
THE OTHER THING IS THE COMMERCIAL ASPECTS OF THE PLAN IS OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT DOES, WHAT THE BOARD DOES.
FROM ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE WHEN WE'RE SAYING WHETHER SOMETHING IS GOING TO WORK OR NOT, IF WE GIVE HIM INCENTIVES, WE BETTER MAKE DARN SURE IT'S GOING TO WORK.
BUT FROM ANY OTHER PERSPECTIVE, THAT REALLY ISN'T A PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUE.
I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP ANY MORE TIME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS GOT A BUSY AGENDA.
THANKS FOR LETTING ME GET UP HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL, JUST LET ME KNOW.
I AM YOUR LIAISON, SO IF I CAN HELP OUT AND I'M DONE. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MILLER.
[Consent Items]
DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO PULL AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO. I WILL MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS NUMBER 5 THROUGH NINE.>> SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLANSCET.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> AND MYSELF. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
[Items for Individual Consideration]
ON TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION REGARDING THE SHADOW BEND RETAIL PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.
APPLICANT IS LGI HOMES-TEXAS LLC.
>> ON THIS PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A REDUCED LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT TO REDUCE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, IT REQUIRES APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THE REQUIREMENT IS NOW 20 FEET ALONG ALL RIGHTS OF WAY THAT ARE 60 FEET OR GREATER, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH EVERY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OTHER THAN AN HOA LOT WOULD BE 10 FEET.
IN UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CAN REDUCE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO 10 FEET, NO LESS THAN 10 FEET, AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.
IN YOUR PACKET, I PROVIDED YOU OTHER EXAMPLES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR.
THE WILLOW CREEK ADDITION, WHERE THEY REDUCED THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER DOWN TO 13 FEET.
THEN ANOTHER PROJECT WAS THE SHOPS AT AVERY POINT WHERE THEY DID NOT REQUEST A LANDSCAPE REDUCTION.
IT IS UP FOR YOU TO DECIDE ANY.
>> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO. IS THERE A MOTION FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10?
>> I SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HERMANN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> AND MYSELF. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
ITEM NUMBER 11, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.
CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACTION ON A REQUEST TO ANNEX AND ZONE A PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DWELLING, RETAIL AND RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT ON 40 PLUS ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FUTURE ROSAMOND PARKWAY AND COUNTY ROAD 288.
APPLICANT IS PRITI BRAS, LOGANATH AND ANNA 228 HOLDING LLC.
I HAVE A LETTER FROM THEM, RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT WE TABLE THIS.
>> HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE TABLED THIS ALREADY?
>> ORIGINALLY, THIS APPEARED AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING.
>> YOU TABLED AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING AND THE MARCH MEETING.
>> THIS WOULD BE THREE IF WE TABLED IT?
>> I'M GOING TO PULL MY COMMISSIONERS.
DO WE WANT TO TABLE THIS OR DO WE WANT TO JUST HEAR IT NOW?
>> I GUESS I'M INDIFFERENT. I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION EITHER WAY.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH TABLING IT AGAIN?
>> WELL, THIS WOULD BE NUMBER 3.
>> WE HAVE FIVE TO ONE TO HEAR IT.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:10 PM.
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>> THIS IS A ZONING REQUEST ON FUTURE ROSAMOND PARKWAY.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING REGIONAL, COMMERCIAL, AND MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS WITH A VARIANCE TO ALLOW SHARED OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY LOTS.
AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, THERE IS A LARGE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE ON THE SCREEN, BUT WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IS FUTURE ROSAMOND ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN IT'S CURRENTLY ON COUNTY ROAD 288.
THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS PROPERTY AS RANCHING IN AGRICULTURE AND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
THE PREFERRED SCENARIO DIAGRAM HAS IT AS A STATE RESIDENTIAL AND SUBURBAN LIVING.
THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
>> DO YOU HAVE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE IT DESCRIBES WHAT EACH OF THESE.
>> WE HAVE A DESCRIPTION FOR EVERYTHING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
THEY WERE PROVIDED IN THE PACKET, THE SCREENSHOT FOR EACH OF THE PLACE TYPES.
WHAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE PACKET WAS THE RANCHING AND AGRICULTURE DISTRICT, THE SUBURBAN LIVING, ESTATE, RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL.
BECAUSE THE RANCHING AND AGRICULTURAL PLACE TYPE SAYS THAT IN CERTAIN CASES A CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL MAY BE APPROPRIATE.
>> DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO? OKAY, WE DO HAVE SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
I WILL REMIND EVERYONE HERE TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
FIRST UP WILL BE TERRELL CULBERTSON.
>> MICHELLE, ARE YOU KEEPING TIME?
>> WHEN YOU HEAR THE TIMER GO OFF, PLEASE WRAP IT UP.
>> I GOT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS TERRELL CULBERTSON.
I LIVE AT 10429 COUNTY ROAD 289, ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF FROM THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE.
I'VE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
THE LAST TIME, I GAVE YOU A HISTORY OF HOW I MOVED INTO RURAL ANNA PROPERTY IN 1981.
I RAN OUT OF TIME, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO PICK UP FROM WHERE I LEFT OFF AND PAINT YOU A PICTURE OF COUNTY ROAD 288.
IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, IT'S ONLY ABOUT TWO MILES LONG.
IT STARTS AT FARM TO MARKET 455 AND IT GOES EAST ABOUT A MILE, MAKES A 90-DEGREE TURN, AND GOES ABOUT ANOTHER MILE, CONNECTING WITH COUNTY ROAD 290.
THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL THERE IS.
THEY CAME IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WIDENED IT, CUT DOWN ALL THE 100-YEAR-OLD TREES, AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT POTHOLES IN IT.
IT'S NOT A GREAT ROAD, BUT IT IS A PAVED ROAD.
NINETY-DEGREE TURN IS THE ALEXANDER CEMETERY, A HISTORICAL CEMETERY IN COLLIN COUNTY THAT HAS GRAVES IN IT THAT ARE WELL OVER 100 YEARS OLD.
[NOISE] MY WIFE IS BURIED THERE.
I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS THAT ARE BURIED THERE, AND AT SOME POINT I'LL BE BURIED THERE.
ON THIS COUNTY ROAD, THERE ARE MULTIPLE RESIDENCES ON ACREAGE RURAL AREA.
THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE PUTS APARTMENTS AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AND 221, I THINK, IS THE NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL HOUSES IN THE MIDDLE OF A PASTURE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A ROAD TO IT OTHER THAN THE COUNTY ROAD.
IT DOESN'T HAVE UTILITIES TO IT OTHER THAN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT'S THERE, HAS WATER AND ELECTRIC.
THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT LATER FROM ONE OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS OF THE AREA.
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IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, YOU HAVE A VERY THOROUGH, DETAILED, COMPLETE REPORT FROM JANET SMITH OF ALL THE REASONS WHY THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE DOES NOT COMPLY WITH ANY OF THE APPROVED PLANS, AND ALL THE REASONS THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO STAMP THIS THING, REJECTED, AND SEND THESE PEOPLE DOWN THE ROAD.>> HELLO, MY NAME IS SEAN SMITH.
ADDRESS IS 11089 COUNTY ROAD 289, AND I ALSO LEASE THE LAND, 10468 COUNTY ROAD 288 WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I'M HERE TO BOAST MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING ANNEXATION AND CONCEPT PLAN OF LOGAN CROSSING, ITEM NUMBER 11.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, I KNOW IT'S COMING.
I JUST BUILT A HOUSE A YEAR AGO AND I KNOW IN 20, 25 YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE TORN DOWN FOR DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S A REALITY OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING.
THE MAYOR HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT, "EVERYBODY JUST REALLY BUCKLE UP AS TO WHAT IS ABOUT TO OCCUR HERE.
THERE WILL BE A QUARTER OF A MILLION PEOPLE." THIS IS EVIDENT WITH THE 14,000 APARTMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
THIS IS A CONCERNING COMMENT FROM ELECTED OFFICIAL, AND THIS DOES NOT ALIGN WITH OUR 2050 PLAN.
THE MAYOR HAS ALSO AGREED WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT HIGHWAY 5 IS PRESTON ROAD FOR ANNA AND 75 IS THE TOLLWAY.
WE CAN SEE THAT WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND HIGHWAY 5 BEING EXPANDED INTO A FOUR-LANE ROAD.
HIGH DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING ON THE EAST SIDE OF 75 AND EAST SIDE OF HURRICANE CREEK MAKES BETTER SENSE.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE HAS IMPROVED.
MULTIFAMILY HOUSING ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE THERE IS NONE OF THIS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.
THIS PLAN PROPOSES TO PUT APARTMENTS AND MULTIFAMILY HOMES ON THE WEST SIDE OF HURRICANE CREEK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD, WITH NO WATER, NO SEWER, NO FIRE HYDRANTS, BIG THING FOR SAFETY, AND WITH NO EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING PROVIDED EITHER BY THE SHERIFF OR BY WESTON.
THE REZONING AND CONCEPT PLAN DOES NOT MAKE SENSE AND DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE 2050 PLAN.
IN FACT, ANY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT ON THIS LAND REALLY DOES NOT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THERE IS NOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OVER THERE AT THIS TIME.
KEYWORD IS AT THIS TIME, WE KNOW IT'S CHANGING.
AS FOR ROSAMOND PARKWAY, THE CONCEPT HAS IT BASICALLY AS A FLOATING ROAD TO WHERE BASICALLY THERE'S NO BEGINNING, THERE'S NO END, IT'S JUST THERE.
THE MAYOR, IN THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SAYS, ONE OF THE THINGS I HEAR ABOUT MOST IS WHO'S GOING TO FIX THAT ROAD AND WHO'S GOING TO BUILD THAT ROAD? BASICALLY, WHO'S GOING TO GO THROUGH AND FUND THIS? I'M ASKING THE SAME THING.
IS THE CITY GOING TO GO THROUGH AND DO A BOND TO GO THROUGH AND CONNECT THIS ROAD ACROSS HURRICANE CREEK TO GO THROUGH AND COMPLETE THIS? THAT ABSOLUTELY HAS NO BENEFIT FROM MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION HERE.
TO EVEN GO FURTHER, WHO'S GOING TO GO THROUGH AND SUPPORT AND PAY FOR THE FUNDING TO GO THROUGH AND IMPROVE AND MAINTAIN THE ROADS LIKE FARM TO MARKET 455, 290, 288, 289? ADDING MORE PEOPLE IN AREA RESTRICTED BY ROADS, LIMITED WATER, NO SEWER, AND LIMITED CITY SURFACE MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.
THERE'S AMPLE SUPPLY OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN THE CURRENT PLANS AND EAST OF HURRICANE CREEK.
I'M AGAINST THE ANNEXATION AND ZONING THIS AREA, AND FOR APARTMENTS, AND TECHNICALLY FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.
LET'S GET THE BIG PICTURE TOGETHER BEFORE WE PUT THE CART IN FRONT OF THE HORSE.
THERE'S BETTER USE FOR THIS LAND THAT'LL ALIGN WITH THE 2050 PLAN.
ONCE AGAIN, I OPPOSE THE REZONING ANNEXATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS LATRICIA SMITH ON BEHALF OF JANET SMITH.
>> HI, I'M LATRICIA SMITH, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF JANET SMITH, WHO LIVES AT 10468 COUNTY ROAD 288.
OUR PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEXT TO THE 37.8 ACRES UNDER DISCUSSION.
WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION, ZONING, AND CONCEPT OF THE PLAN.
THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS DEVELOPED TO PROVIDE A VISION STATEMENT, TO SET GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND A PREFERRED SCENARIO FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF ANNA.
THE PROPERTY UNDER DISCUSSION IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF HURRICANE CREEK AND HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR ESTATE, RESIDENTIAL, AND URBAN LIVING.
WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED DOES NOT FIT INTO EITHER CATEGORY.
INSTEAD, IT IS A MIXED-USE PLAN WITH HIGH-DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING TYPES, SHOPPING, AND RESTAURANTS, AND NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE 2050 PLAN.
IT WOULD BE A TRAGEDY TO ALLOW THE 37.8 ACRES TO BE DESTROYED AND STRIPPED OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A BEAUTIFUL ESTATE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
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ANNEXATION WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER SERVICES, PRIORITY POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION, EMERGENCY MEDICAL AND MAINTENANCE OF COUNTY AND PUBLIC ROADS, ALL OF WHICH ARE NOT PROVIDED THIS TIME.THESE ARE COUNTY ROADS THAT ARE MAINTAINED BY COLLIN COUNTY AND ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE HEAVY TRAFFIC OR EQUIPMENT.
ANNA HAS MANY PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THE FOCUS AND PRIORITY OF THE CITY'S RESOURCES AND FUNDS, WHICH WOULD PUT THIS PROJECT LOW ON THE PRIORITY LIST.
THE CITY OF ANNA CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT CONSIDER THE ANNEXATION OF THE 37.8 ACRES.
THE ROUTING OF ROSAMOND PARKWAY EXTENSION FROM HURRICANE VILLAGE ESTATES ACROSS HURRICANE CREEK HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED.
THE CURRENT PLAN WILL DESTROY A HOME WITH HORSES, DOGS, CATS, AND WILDLIFE WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR THE HOMEOWNER.
THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVE ROUTES THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND NOT ALLOW THIS 37.8 ACRES ILL-CONCEIVED CONCEPT PLAN TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE PATH OF THIS MAJOR SIX-LANE DIVIDED THOROUGHFARE.
IN SUMMARY, HARRISON AND JANET MOVED INTO THIS BEAUTIFUL AREA 32 YEARS AGO.
SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE WELCOMED A NON FOR PROFIT DOG RESCUE RETREAT AND A NON FOR PROFIT EQUESTRIAN FACILITY THAT PROVIDES THERAPEUTIC HELP TO CHALLENGED KIDS.
MANY OF US HAVE HORSES, COWS, AND ACREAGE COMMITTED TO THE PRODUCTION OF HAY, CORN, GRAIN, NATIVE AND CULTIVATED PECANS, AND HONEY.
I ASK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS TO VISIT THE AREA AND PLEASE ENJOY THE PEACE AND QUIET AND GREEN ACRES OF HAY AND GRAIN GROWING.
STOP BY JANET'S PLACE TO WALK TO THE BACK OF HER PROPERTY TO ENJOY THE VIEW TO HURRICANE CREEK.
IT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY TO ALLOW THIS IMPRACTICAL PLAN TO CHANGE THE AMBIENCE OF THIS AREA.
FOR ALL THE ABOVE REASONS MY FAMILY AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE ANY CONSIDERATION OF ANNEXATION, ZONING, AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE 37.8 ACRES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SINCERELY, JANET SMITH AND THE FAMILY.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS TRAVIS EDEN.
>> MY NAME IS TRAVIS EDEN, OWNER-OPERATOR LONE STAR DOG RANCH, 10030 COUNTY ROAD 2808 ANNA TEXAS.
I WOULD BASICALLY LIKE TO JUST ECHO THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE WITH MY OTHER NEIGHBORS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
WE JUST STRONGLY FEEL THAT ON THE TOPICS WHEN IT COMES TO THE ROAD AND HAVING ACCESS TO SUCH A HIGH VOLUME OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST GOING TO BE NOT EVEN A MILE NORTH OF ME, WE ALL FRANKLY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S GOING TO EVEN BE FEASIBLE TO OBTAIN.
ONCE AGAIN, I BASICALLY FEEL LIKE I'M DOING AN ECHO OF THE LAST TIME BECAUSE THIS DEVELOPER JUST GETS TO KEEP PUNTING AND WE ALL JUST HAVE TO KEEP SHOWING UP AND EXPRESSING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE WANT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT WE WILL DO IT AS MANY TIMES AS IT TAKES.
WHEN WE MOVED HERE, WHEN WE ALL INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN OUR TIME AND OUR BLOOD AND OUR SWEAT INTO THIS AREA, IT WAS TOLD THAT THIS AREA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CERTAIN WAY BIG LOTS, SINGLE FAMILY.
THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THIS AREA.
THAT'S WHY I NEED THIS AREA TO MAINTAIN MY BUSINESS, MY NON FOR PROFIT RESCUE.
I CAN'T HAVE HIGH-VOLUME PEOPLE ALL AROUND ME IN ORDER TO DO WHAT IT IS THAT I DO.
YOU CAN'T HAVE A BUNCH OF DOGS AROUND A BUSY HIGHWAY OR PEOPLE WALKING DOWN BACK AND FORTH ALL THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAME HERE TO DO, WHICH IS OUR DREAM OF OPENING A DOG BOARDING FACILITY, AND THEN LATER THE RESCUE AS WELL.
WE'RE STRONGLY AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS RENEE EDEN.
>> MY NAME IS RENEE EDEN. I'M THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF LONE STAR DOG RANCH AND LIVE AT 10030 COUNTY ROAD 288, AND I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF DOG RANCH RESCUERS AT THE SAME PROPERTY.
WE MOVED HERE BACK IN 2007 WITH A VISION OF WHAT OUR BUSINESS WOULD BE, WE STRIVED TO FIND A PART OF ANNA ON THE WEST SIDE OF 75 THAT HELD THE CONDITIONS OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
WE KNEW THAT THE BUILDING WOULD TAKE PLACE ON THE EAST SIDE OF 75,
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THE POPULATION WOULD BUILD.AT THE TIME WE MOVED HERE, THERE WAS LITERALLY NOTHING, NOT EVEN A BROOKSHURES AND THE BUILDING BEGAN TO TAKE PLACE AND THAT'S WHERE WE SAW, AND THAT'S WHERE IT WAS PROPOSED, AND THAT'S HOW IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
WE'RE ON THE SIDE WHERE IT'S HUGE ACREAGE.
WE HAVE 32 ACRES, WE HAVE MY HOME, MY SON'S HOME, WE ALL LIVE OUT THERE, WE ALL WORK OUT THERE AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE, TINY COUNTRY ROAD THAT LEADS TO OUR BUSINESS.
QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN I SAW THE PROJECTION OF THIS, I WAS LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? IS THIS A LAND GRAB THAT THIS GUY HAS THIS PLAN AND IS GOING TO PICK UP THIS ACREAGE THAT QUITE FRANKLY BELONGS TO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE THE LAND IS CHEAPER BEFORE ALL THE BUILD STARTS TO TAKE PLACE ON THE WEST SIDE OF 75? IT'S WILD FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THAT SOMEBODY COULD JUST STEP INTO THIS LITTLE QUIET COUNTRY AREA BOOM AND PLANT YOUR SEED THERE TO REZONE EVERYTHING AND RESTRUCTURE FOR RETAIL AND APARTMENTS AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE SEWER OUT THERE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY GAS.
I CAN'T EVEN SEE THE PROJECTION OF HOW THIS WOULD TAKE PLACE WITH FIRE, WITH POLICE, WITH SCHOOLS, WITH FIRE HYDRANTS, WITH ANYTHING OUT THERE.
455 IS A TWO-LANE HIGHWAY THAT MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED ON SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE JUST FROM THE WAY THE ROAD TURNS AND ANYTHING WILL BLOCK THAT ROAD.
A LITTLE ACCIDENT WILL BLOCK THAT ROAD.
YOU HAVE THIS BIG COMPLEX DOWN THERE AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR AN AMBULANCE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THERE.
HERE'S THIS PROJECTION FOR THIS POPULATION OF PEOPLE TO MOVE IN JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
I WANT SOMEBODY TO TRY TO MAKE SENSE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THIS PERSON DOESN'T SHOW UP.
COME HERE AND TALK TO US, AND TELL US WHAT YOUR PLAN IS.
INSTEAD, HE TABLES IT EVERY TIME.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? I'M ALREADY DISAPPOINTED ENOUGH BECAUSE I WAS HERE THE LAST TIME AND THIS PLACE WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS HERE TO REPRESENT AND HE HIDES AND TABLES IT.
THEN WE COME TONIGHT AND THERE'S NOT AS MANY OF US AND HE TABLES IT AGAIN.
I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE A ROACH IN THE DARK.
YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO CREEP UNDER AND LET THIS SLIP AWAY AND PASS AWAY AND WE WON'T.
AS YOU CAN SEE, I STRONGLY OPPOSE.
I'M AT 104228 COUNTY ROAD 2808, WHERE THE LITTLE TINY PIECE OF PIE PROPERTY THAT IMMEDIATELY ABUTS THIS PROPERTY THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION.
ACTUALLY LET ME SAY, I'M SURE YOU'RE TIRED OF HEARING US TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU FROM THE DEVELOPERS.
BUT WHAT I HOPE COMES ACROSS FROM ALL OF US IS OUR PASSION FOR KEEPING THAT AREA BEAUTIFUL AND IN KEEPING WITH WHAT IS THERE NOW.
THE SPIRIT SONG RANCH, THAT IS A NONPROFIT AND HELPS CHILDREN WHO ARE HAVING TROUBLE IN THEIR LIVES.
THE DOG RANCH THAT SUPPORTS A RESCUE AND PROVIDES BOARDING AND OTHER SERVICES FOR OTHER DOGS.
WE HAVE FRIENDS WHO STILL LIVE IN FRISCO THAT DRIVE THEIR DOGS ALL THE WAY OUT THERE TO BE BOARDED BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT.
THEY LOVE THAT IT'S IN THE COUNTRY.
THEY LOVE THE CARE THAT THOSE PEOPLE PROVIDE FOR THEM.
THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE CEMETERY.
WHY WOULD WE RUIN ALL OF THAT AND PUT APARTMENTS IN THERE? LISTEN, WE KNOW THAT CHANGE IS COMING.
THE MINUTE WE REALIZED THAT MANCHUE WAS A MILE FROM OUR HOME, WE KNEW IT WAS COMING.
BUT WHY NOT, IN KEEPING WITH THE 2050 PLAN, WHY NOT KEEP THE ESTATE HOMES? IT'S GOT A LOT OF INEXPENSIVE HOUSING.
THAT'S PARTLY WHY WE'RE HAVING A BIG RUSH OF PEOPLE TO MOVE OUT HERE.
WE NEED TO BUILD INTO THE PLAN SOME EXPENSIVE HOMES.
IF WE WANT TO ATTRACT THE HIGHER UPS AT THOSE COMPANIES THAT ARE BEING PUT IN IN SHERMAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL, LARGE HOMES FOR THEM TO MOVE INTO.
THEY HAVE THE MONEY, THEY'RE WILLING TO MOVE IN.
WE NEED TO START PROVIDING THAT FOR THEM.
I JUST BEG OF YOU, PLEASE DON'T CHANGE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW THE VIBE OF IT IS.
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PLEASE PUT IN BIG ESTATE HOMES.PLEASE LET IT MAINTAIN SOME OF ITS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE AND PROVIDE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THAT ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT SPIRIT SONG RANCH AND WILLING TO SUPPORT THE DOG RANCH.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA THAT IT WOULD BE A SHAME IF WE ACTUALLY CHANGED IT UP TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS JURO THAMESBERRY.
I LIVE AT 9830 COUNTY ROAD 288.
I ALSO HAVE THE ADJOINING PROPERTY NEXT TO THE CEMETERY, NEXT TO MY PROPERTY, AND NEXT TO LONE STAR DOG RANCH.
AS YOU CAN TELL ALL MY NEIGHBORS, SORRY, I'M NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THEM WERE ALL VERY PASSIONATELY AGAINST THIS BECAUSE WE'RE ALL HERE FOR EACH OTHER.
NO MATTER WHAT DIFFERENCES WE HAVE, WE'RE HERE FOR EACH OTHER.
MY BARN BURNED DOWN A FEW YEARS AGO.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WITHIN HOURS, STOPPED BY.
HOW CAN WE HELP YOU? THAT'S WHAT WE ALL LOVE.
WE'RE ALL THERE FOR EACH OTHER.
IT WAS REALLY SAD TO HEAR CITY COUNCIL PERSON WHO SPOKE EARLIER THAT HANDS THE FUTURE PLANS.
IT'S VERY SAD TO HEAR AND DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE I MOVED HERE, MY WIFE MOVED HERE BECAUSE WE SAW THE PLANS.
MY WIFE'S A DEVELOPER, I'M A DESIGNER.
WE DO THIS, THIS IS OUR BREAD AND BUTTER, WE LOOK HOMES WE CAN LIVE WITH.
WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE HOMES AND WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ANY MORE APARTMENTS.
I'M LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY, I CAN'T HAVE THAT NEXT TO US.
IT'S ALREADY BAD ENOUGH WITH THE AIRBNB DOWN THE ROAD WITH THOSE VISITORS COMING AND CROSSING INTO OUR PASTURE, TRYING TO PET OUR HORSES, I JUST CAN'T HAVE THAT.
I'M PLEADING WITH YOU ALL. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR QUIET, NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YEAH.
THE LAST SPEAKER IS BETTY SHARP.
>> MY NAME IS BETTY SHARP. I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER ME FROM MARCH 4? I WON'T SAY THE SAME THING.
I'LL TRY TO WIND IT UP, BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I'M THE PERSON WHOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY, THESE TWO MEN WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS TO SHOW UP HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I GUESS I'M TOO SCARY.
THEY TOOK MY PRIVATE PROPERTY INTO THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITHOUT ONE COMMUNICATION WITH ME, AND I WOULD NOT HAVE AGREED ANYWAY.
THAT SHOULD SEND CHILLS UP THE SPINE OF ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS AREA, IN THIS STATE.
NOW, YOU'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS, I KNOW THAT.
YOU DIDN'T SIGN UP TO BE CRITICIZED OR BE TOLD YOU ARE EASILY INTIMIDATED.
I THINK EVERY ONE OF YOU UNDERSTANDS WELL IN YOUR OWN SINGLE FAMILY HOME HOW DIFFICULT IT ALREADY IS TO GET YOUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL, TO DEAL WITH CRIME, TO DEAL WITH HIGH TRAFFIC, TO LEASE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE SITTING EMPTY ALREADY.
NOW, HERE'S SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T CONSIDERED.
HOMES ARE THE MAJOR ASSET FOR EVERY SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER IN THIS TOWN.
THAT'S HOW THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BUILT.
I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR DATA PRESENTATION IN MY THREE MINUTES, BUT I HOLD UP TWO ARTICLES.
DALLAS IS RISKING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, JANUARY THE 13TH, 2024 DALLAS MORNING NEWS, READ IT.
I DIDN'T GET IT IN THE PACKET.
WHAT IS HAPPENING IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS A PERCENT ARE GOING DOWN, APARTMENTS, RENTAL UNITS ARE GOING UP. GUESS WHAT?
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THE VALUE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS GOING DOWN.IT'S NOT ALL UP AS THESE DEVELOPERS WILL TELL YOU, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT PLEASE THE SMARTDEPARTMENDATA.COM.
IN 2023, 50.1 PERCENT OF EXISTING APARTMENTS, NOT TO MENTION THE 10,000 IN THE PIPELINE HERE, HAD TO GIVE CONCESSIONS TO GET RENTERS.
WHAT HAPPENS IS SINGLE VALUE HOMES GO DOWN.
FOR INSTANCE, YOU BOUGHT A HOME HERE IN 2020, 2021 THINKING IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY, PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT, WOULD GO UP IN VALUE.
YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SELL IT IN 2025 IF YOU'RE IN A HIGH TRAFFIC CORRIDOR.
IF IT'S HARDER TO GET KIDS TO SCHOOL, IF THERE'S MORE CRIME.
IF APARTMENTS ARE STARING DOWN INTO YOUR BACKYARD? YOUR VALUE IS GOING TO GO DOWN, NOT UP.
I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING, PLEASE.
THE ETJ PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, WE HAVE FOUGHT FOR PICKLE BALL COURTS, THAT SHIRLEY HERITAGE PARK WITH THE BEAUTIFUL TRAIN DEPOT, THAT'S JANET SMITH IN THE ANNA HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
WE'VE ALL WORKED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ANNA.
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS AND YOU BETTER PAY ATTENTION IN TRYING TO DO BUSINESS WITH SOMEONE WHO ABSORBS MY PRIVATE PROPERTY INTO THEIR PLAN.
>> I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:37 PM AND CONFINE ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS?
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, YOU NEED TO COME TO THE PODIUM BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS RECORDED AND THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU BACK THERE.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> YES, MA'AM. EVERETT PARKER, 804 WESTGATE COURT, HERE IN ANNA.
>> I WON'T TAKE THAT LONG. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THERE'S NO EDUCATIONAL SUPPORT ON THAT SIDE OF 75.
I'M STRUGGLING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL THESE APARTMENTS OVER THERE AND HOMES, HOW ARE THESE KIDS GOING TO GET EDUCATED IF THEY HAVE TO WALK OR DRIVE ACROSS 75? TWO LANE ROADS THAT CAN'T SUPPORT IT, I THINK IS A PROBLEM.
ALSO RETAIL SPACE, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT GETS SUPPORTED OVER THERE EITHER.
THERE'S NOTHING SURROUNDING IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I GOT.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL RECLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:38 PM AND CONFINE ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO COMMISSION AND STAFF.
>> I HAVE ONE. CAN SOMEONE REMIND ME ABOUT THE ETJ AND HOW THE 2050 PLAN FITS INTO THAT?
>> BY STATE LAW, THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IS AN AREA SURROUNDING THE CITY LIMITS IN WHICH THE CITY CAN GROW IN ANNEX PROPERTIES INTO.
OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO, THE ANNEXATION LAWS HAVE EVOLVED AND CHANGED, WHICH HAVE MADE IT MUCH HARDER FOR CITIES TO GO IN ANNEX PROPERTIES UNLESS THERE'S ALREADY SOME AGREEMENT IN PLACE OR A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.
BECAUSE THAT AREA IS IN OUR PLANNING JURISDICTION AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAVE TO INCLUDE IT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
>> LAUREN. I SEE ON HERE THAT IT'S RANCHING IN AGRICULTURE, THAT'S THE PRIMARY LAND USE.
SECONDARY LAND USE IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, SPORTING STRUCTURES, RANCHING IN AGRICULTURE.
WHERE DOES THIS FIT IN OR DOES IT?
>> APARTMENTS AND COMMERCIAL ARE NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
WITHIN THE PREFERRED SCENARIO DIAGRAM, IT DOES IDENTIFY SUBURBAN LIVING IN WHICH COMMERCIAL CAN BE APPROPRIATE.
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APARTMENTS CAN BE APPROPRIATE IN CERTAIN SUBURBAN LIVING.BUT UNDER THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AGRICULTURE AND RANCHING, IT IS NOT IN CONFORMANCE.
>> THIS BEING ETJ, WHAT CAN GO THERE BY RIGHT?
>> IF THE PROPERTY IS NOT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AS LONG AS THEY ARE PROVIDING THE SEWER CAPACITY AND WATER CAPACITY THAT'S NECESSARY, THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS TO WHAT CAN BE PUT ON A PROPERTY IN THE ETJ.
THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY LAND USE RESTRICTIONS.
THE CITY CANNOT PUT ANY LAND USE RESTRICTIONS, HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
>> IF THEY WANTED TO PUT A TRAILER PARK, FOR INSTANCE, THERE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO. IS THERE A MOTION?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF IT WAS APPROVED, WOULD THE DEVELOPER DO THE WATER AND SEWER? WOULD IT BE A PIT? WOULD IT BE A MUD? WHAT WOULD IT BE?
>> IN THIS CASE, NO. THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING A PIT OR A MUD.
THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT THEY WOULD CONNECT TO THE CITY'S WATER AND SEWER.
THERE ARE NOT PLANS SUBMITTED YET, SO I COULD NOT TELL YOU EXACTLY.
BUT AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL WITH ROSAMOND CROSSING THE CREEK, I'LL LET GREG SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WASTE WATER AND SEWER.
>> I HOPE THAT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I'M ASKING.
>> SURE. THE CITY HAS SEVERAL CIP PROJECTS FOR THE EXPANSION OF WATER AND SEWER OF COURSE, IN MANY PARTS OF THE CITY.
WE DO HAVE A PROJECT THAT INCLUDES THE EXTENSION OF THE TRUNK SEWER LINE ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF HURRICANE CREEK ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY UP TO OUR NORTHERN CITY LIMIT ALONG THAT CREEK.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET ACROSS THE CREEK EITHER WITH AN AERIAL CROSSING OR THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS YOU COULD GO UNDER THE CREEK.
THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.
HOWEVER, THAT SEWER IS NOT YET BUILT.
WE'RE PROBABLY 60 DAYS AWAY FROM PUTTING THAT PROJECT OUT TO BID, AND WE'LL BE AWARDING IT THIS SUMMER.
THEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD START PROBABLY SOMETIME LATE NEXT YEAR THAT SEWER WILL BE BUILT.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT SEWER IS TO BE A TRUNK LINE ALONG THE CREEK ALL THE WAY UP TO THE NORTHERN CITY LIMIT TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT AND EVEN VAN ALSTYNE TO FLOW IN THERE SO THAT THEY WOULD SEWER TO OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
WE WOULD THEN CHARGE THE CITY OF VAN ALSTYNE AS A CUSTOMER AND THAT WOULD HELP PAY FOR OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
>> THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTING ANY WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES THAT IS TO SUPPORT THEIR DEVELOPMENT?
>> THEY WOULD HAVE TO FUND THE CONNECTION.
THEY'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET TO IT.
THAT'S THE WATER AND SEWER SIDE.
ON THE ROAD SIDE, THE BIG QUESTION IS THE TIMING OF THE BRIDGE AND BUILDING ROSAMOND PARKWAY ACROSS THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT PLANS TO DO THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO ACTUALLY BUILD IT ACROSS THE CREEK.
IT IS IDENTIFIED AS A FUTURE ROAD IN OUR CIP, BUT IT'S NOT CURRENTLY WITHIN THE FUNDING PLAN.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT PROJECT, THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, LAUREN, BUT WE'RE HERE TO VOTE TODAY ON A REZONE ONLY OF THIS PROPERTY.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN CAN THIS PROPERTY BE REZONED OR NOT.
BLACK AND WHITE, THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE HERE TO VOTE ABOUT TODAY.
>> AS PART OF THE PLANNING PART OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, I WILL SAY THAT THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS DOES STATE THAT A PROPERTY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AS FAR AS WATER AND SEWER IS CONCERNED, IT IS A REQUIREMENT.
ANYTIME SOMEONE SUBMITS AN APPLICATION FOR THE ETJ, I DO ASK THAT THEY PROVIDE A LETTER FROM THE WATER PROVIDER STATING THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE SOMETHING SO THAT IT IS SOMETHING AS STAFF WE TRY TO LOOK AT BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE YOU.
>> ARE THEY ASK FOR ANY EXCEPTIONS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS OUT?
>> AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE ONLY EXCEPTION THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS A ZONING EXCEPTION FOR THE OPEN SPACE.
THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY EXCEPTIONS FROM THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
>> REMEMBER, IF WE ANNEX THAT, THE CITY CAN CONTROL.
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>> IS THE DEVELOPER, IS HE NOT HERE? NO, YES.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
>> NOT REALLY. THIS ONE IT SEEMS PRETTY CUT AND DRY TO ME.
IT'S OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
IT'S PRETTY GREEN. WE HAVE A LOT OF MULTI-FAMILY RIGHT NOW ALREADY ZONED.
I DON'T SEE HOW THIS MAKES SENSE.
IT BEING IN THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR RANCHING IN AGRICULTURE, THIS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IS THERE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11?
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY BY COMMISSIONER NYLEC AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> AND MYSELF, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
[APPLAUSE] HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER 12, CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE LOGAN CROSSING, CONCEPT PLAN.
APPLICANT IS PRLTHIVIRAJ LOGANATHAN-ANNA HOLDING, LLC.
THIS WAS CONTINGENT ON ITEM NUMBER 11, YES?
>> OKAY. I WILL MOTION FOR I GUESS, DENIAL ON THAT, RIGHT?
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND NO ACTION.
>> OKAY. I WILL MOTION FOR A NO ACTION ON ITEM NUMBER 12.
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
ALL IN FAVOR. COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> AND MYSELF, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
ITEM NUMBER 13, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.
CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACTION ON A REQUEST TO ZONE A CIVIC CENTER, PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON 6.8 +/- ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 373 AND NORTH POWELL PARKWAY.
ZONED LOCAL COMMERCIAL C-1, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL L-1 AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE 485-2010.
APPLICANT IS STEVEN SMITH, PUBLIC WORKS.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
CONSIDER, DISCUSS, ACTION ON A REQUEST TO ANNEX AND ZONE 10.1 +/- ACRES TO MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COLLIN COUNTY, OUTER LOOP 680 +/- FEET EAST OF WEST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD, WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, ALSO KNOWN AS THE ETJ.
THE APPLICANT IS THE SKORBURG COMPANY.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:48 PM.
>> THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COLLIN COUNTY OUTER LOOP.
IT IS CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR MULTIFAMILY ZONING.
THE PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED AS PARKS AND OPEN SPACE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND ON THE PREFERRED SCENARIO DIAGRAM, IT IS IDENTIFIED AS MIXED USE.
THE MAJOR ISSUE WITH THIS SITE IS THAT IT IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED IN JUNE OF 2009.
FURTHER ANALYSIS IS NEEDED, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THEY RECLAIM SOME OF THE PROPERTY AND BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT.
NO LETTERS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHALL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
I WILL SAY I DID FORGET TO PUT THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION IN AND THEY ARE HERE TO PRESENT.
>> DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO.
>> HOW MANY LETTERS DID YOU SEND OUT?
>> THE WAY THAT WE SEND OUT LETTERS IS ONLY TO THOSE ON THE MUNICIPAL TAX ROLL SO IN THIS CASE, IT WAS THE CITY OF ANNA, WE DON'T MAIL OURSELVES.
THEN THE TWO OTHER PROPERTIES ARE OWNED BY THE SAME GROUP, SO ONE LETTER WAS SENT.
>> DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION?
>> IT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE HELPFUL IF I [INAUDIBLE]. CAN ANYBODY SEE THIS?
>> BASICALLY, THIS IS A PARCEL THAT WE'VE OWNED FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
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IT'S ACTUALLY NOT IN THE CITY OF ANNA.IT'S THE ONLY PIECE OF LAND THAT WE STILL OWN THAT'S NOT IN THE CITY OF ANNA.
WE WERE JUST COMING IN TO BRING IT INTO THE CITY OF ANNA AND PUT A BASE ZONING ON IT.
I HAD A MAP HERE THAT SHOWED THE ZONING SURROUNDING US.
I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE I COULD WALK A LITTLE CLOSER AND SHOW EVERYBODY.
WE'VE STUDIES ON IT IN THE PAST, AND THERE'S ABOUT FIVE TO SIX ACRES THAT CAN BE RECLAIMED.
REALLY, OUR REQUEST TONIGHT IS JUST TO ANNEX THIS, BRING IT INTO THE CITY, AND PUT A BASE MULTIFAMILY ZONING ON IT.
WE DON'T HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN, IF WE COME BACK FOR ANYTHING ON IT IN THE NEXT, I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE WOULD COME BACK WITH A CONCEPT PLAN AND EVERYTHING.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO PUT A BASE ZONING ON IT.
NO VARIATIONS TO THE BASE ZONING JUST MULTIFAMILY BASE ZONING AND ANNEX INTO THE CITY.
AS ALL STATED BEFORE, WITH IT BEING OUTSIDE THE CITY, THERE'S JUST A LOT MORE THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH IT.
WE'RE JUST, THE LAST PIECE, WE'RE REALLY SITTING ON DOWN THAT'S NOT IN PART OF THE CITY.
>> YOU SAID THERE'S FIVE OR SIX ACRES OF USABLE LAND, BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR 10?
>> WELL, THE PROPERTY IS 10 ACRES.
>> WOULD YOU BE USING, I GUESS THE MIDDLE PART OF IT?
>> WE'RE NOT SURE YET. IF YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY GO BACK TO THE SLIDE.
BASICALLY, IT COMES FROM THE CREEK IS A FLOODPLAIN BACK TO THE EAST.
IT'S BASICALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR SCREEN OR I'M LOOKING AT THE LEFT SIDE IS THE CREEK WHERE THE POINT IS OVER TO, SO THAT'S THE WEST SIDE TO THE EAST SIDE, BIFURCATED NEAR THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE.
THAT WHOLE AREA HASN'T BEEN STUDIED DOWN THERE.
IT'S BEEN STUDIED NORTH OF IT, BUT NOT SOUTH OR THERE.
WE'VE DONE PRELIMINARY STUDIES ON IT THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING IN THE OFFICE FOR A WHILE.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IS DEVELOPED IN THE AREA, HOW MUCH WE CAN RECLAIM IN THE FUTURE, WHAT'S DONE AS FAR AS DRAINAGE GOING UNDER OUTER LOOP, AND WHAT'S DEVELOPED AROUND US.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO.
>> MINE IS NOT REALLY A QUESTION BUT ENGINEERING-WISE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A TASK TO TAKE ON A LOT OF IMPORTING AND FILLING, AND THEN WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS NOT BEING BUILT OUT AROUND IT AND THEN BUILDING, IT'LL BRING IN A LOT OF GRAY AREA THAT MIGHT DOWNFALL YOUR DIRECTION TO WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW IF A RETENTION POND IS GOING TO WORK OR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FLOW IT OUT AND HOW MUCH USABLE LAND YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE BY THE TIME IF THEY BUILD FIRST OR YOU BUILD FIRST.
>> YOU'RE COMPLETELY RIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE REALLY DON'T HAVE PLANS FOR TODAY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU'RE JUST ASKING IT FOR THE PEOPLE.
>> I'M GOING TO BRING IT INTO THE CITY AND GET A BASE ZONING ON IT.
>> WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH IT IN THE FUTURE, WHAT GETS BUILT AROUND IT.
IT MIGHT IN ALL HONESTY, MOST LIKELY IT'LL END UP BEING PART OF ANOTHER PARTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROBABLY, BUT WE HAVE ACTUALLY BUILT MANY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE SPECIALIZE IN IS TAKING THESE DIFFICULT PIECES.
I'VE DONE A COUPLE OF MULTIFAMILY PIECES WHERE WE RECLAIMED ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN ACRES.
LAST YEAR I JUST DID A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE RECLAIMED ACRES.
I DO ABOUT 1-2 OF THESE A YEAR WHERE WE GO IN AND FIND, TYPICALLY IT'S AN INFILL PIECE THAT NOBODY'S TOUCHED.
IT PROBABLY WILL BE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS ONE.
>> HAVE YOU PARTNERED WITH THE OTHER ONES TO TRY TO UPDATE THE FLOOD STUDY PLATE OVER THERE?
>> WE HAVE THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE FULL PLANS YET EITHER.
IT'S ALL JUST ZONED, NOBODY HAS STARTED CONSTRUCTION.
BUT I AM SURE THAT AS SOON AS SOMEBODY DOES START CONSTRUCTION AROUND THERE, GREG WILL TALK TO ME AND WE'LL WORK ON THE FLOOD STUDY THROUGH THERE.
>> I CAN IF I COULD JUST TOUCH ON THE FLOOD STUDY COMPONENT.
ONE THING THAT OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN DOING IS TRYING TO BRING MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS TOGETHER TO DO A MORE COMPREHENSIVE FLOOD STUDY.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT WITH A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL AREA.
WE WERE ABLE TO BRING THREE DEVELOPERS TOGETHER TO THE TABLE TO DO ONE SINGLE FLOOD STUDY.
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JUST TO ADD TO THIS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT DOING FOR THIS TYPE OF SITUATION AS WELL.IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE YOU'RE ABLE TO DO A LOT BETTER JOB OF KNOWING WHAT'S REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN WITH DEVELOPMENT BY DOING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT IT.
>> WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND HAVE THE UTILITIES AT SOME POINT.
>> THIS MAKES MORE SENSE FOR MULTIFAMILY TO ME BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO OUTER LOOP AND EVERYTHING.
I DON'T SEE IT HURTING TOO MUCH.
>> ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM? NO.
>> RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST ASKING TO BE ANNEXED.
>> YEAH. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:56 PM AND CONFINE ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONS AND STAFF.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ADDED TO WHAT YOU ALREADY ASKED AND SAID? NO? IS THERE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14?
>> A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 14.
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER BLANSCET AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER NYLEC.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN? YES. COMMISSIONER NYLEC? YES. COMMISSIONER WALDEN? YES. COMMISSIONER HERMANN.
YES. COMMISSIONER CLEMENS? YES. COMMISSIONER BLANSCET? YES. AND MYSELF, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
ITEM NUMBER 15, PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON A REQUEST FOR A PRE-ANNEXATION AGREEMENT OF 432 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, DETACHED SET 275 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, ATTACHED PARK AND CIVIC CENTER ON 204 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 285 AND COUNTY ROAD 827, LOCATED IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, ALSO KNOWN AS THE ETJ.
THE APPLICANT IS REVOCABLE COLLINS FAMILY TRUST.
>> THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF 75.
THIS IS THE SAME APPLICANT AS A PROJECT YOU SAW LAST MONTH AND I WILL LET THE ENGINEER PRESENT TO YOU.
JUST SOME GENERAL STAFF COMMENTS ON THIS PLAN.
THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS BASED OFF OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOTS DOES REQUIRE 14 ENTRANCES AND THEY WOULD BE REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ON THAT.
RIGHT NOW I COUNT FIVE ENTRANCES IF YOU TAKE THAT COUNTY ROAD FURTHER TO THE SOUTH.
A NEED FOR TURNAROUNDS TO BE UPDATED TO MEET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STANDARDS.
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PARKLAND AND CIVIC CENTER DEDICATION WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN ON TOO MANY PROJECTS.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES IDENTIFY IT AS PARKS AND OPEN SPACE RANCHING AND AGRICULTURE, WITH THE PREFERRED SCENARIO DIAGRAM IDENTIFYING IT AS RANCHING AND AGRICULTURE AND ESTATE RESIDENTIAL.
>> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MARTIN SANCHEZ.
210 ADRIATIC PARKWAY, SUITE 200, MCKINNEY, TEXAS 75072. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M GLAD TO BE BACK BEFORE YOU AGAIN.
BRIEFLY TO GIVE YOU THE CONTEXT OF THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS ON THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF TAYLOR ROAD WHICH IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL.
ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, MY LEFT, I SUPPOSE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT THE SAME WAY.
THERE IS ALSO A FUTURE ARTERIAL THAT IS PLANNED ON YOUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS WELL, GENERALLY MAKING AN INTERSECTION THERE AT THAT FUTURE ARTERIAL AND TAYLOR BOULEVARD.
FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WHEN YOU PULL TOGETHER THE UPDATED THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE LAND USE PLAN, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF INCONGRUOUS THINKING ON THE POLICY, BUT WE TRIED TO DO AS BEST WE COULD WITH IT.
AS IN ESTATE DEVELOPMENT OR IN RANCH DEVELOPMENT, I SHOULD SAY, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY TO DO CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL, AS MS. MINKY DISCUSSED, PROVIDED THAT WE PROVIDE A GOOD AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
OUT OF THE 200 ACRES, WE'RE BASICALLY ABOUT HALF AND HALF.
WE WILL BE CONSIDERING SOME RECLAMATION.
THE CENTER PART OF THE LAND PLAN, THE STUFF THAT'S COLORED, IF YOU WOULD, THAT'S RENDERED, SITS ON A HILL, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE THE EAST FORK IS NOT STUDIED AND HURRICANE CREEK IS ALSO NOT STUDIED.
AFTER SOME PRELIMINARY STUDY, WE FEEL FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO RECLAIM QUITE A BIT OF IT, BUT WE'RE NOT RECLAIMING ALL OF IT SO WE'RE STILL
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KEEPING QUITE A BIT OF IT IN THAT OPEN SPACE.SIMILARLY TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT I BROUGHT BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH, THIS REALLY IN A MORE DESIGN PALETTE OF WHAT WE CONSIDER TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN, OR NEW URBANISM, IF YOU WOULD, IT HAS A MIX OF LOTS THAT AS EVERYTHING FROM A STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY LOT TO TOWN HOME LOTS TO COTTAGES AND BUNGALOWS.
THIS IS ALL A FOR SALE PRODUCT.
WHEN WE DESIGN THESE TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE ADD ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE BEYOND JUST THE NORMS. YOU COULD SEE THROUGH OUR DESIGN, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OPEN SPACES THAT WE COULD HAVE ADDED LOTS TO, BUT WE DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THE TIGHTER YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF A LOT, THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE ROOM TO TAKE FIT OUT AND THROW THE FRISBEE AND WALK AROUND, ETC.
THESE ARE INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY TO BE WALKABLE COMMUNITIES ARE PROGRAMMED AMENITIES.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE AMENITY CENTER SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT EVERY LOT CAN ACTUALLY GET TO IT AS FAST AND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF A HIKE, IF YOU WOULD.
WITH THAT, THAT'S REALLY HOW WE DEVELOP THE DESIGN IN ORDER TO GET TO THIS PLACE.
WE ALSO FEEL LIKE AT THE CORNER ON THE UPPER LEFT HAND AREA, YOU HAVE THIS UTILITY LINE THAT IS BASICALLY BIFURCATING THAT TRIANGLE OFF ON OUR NORTHWEST CORNER.
AFTER A LOT OF STUDYING, A LOT OF SKETCHING, A LOT OF CHARRETTING, AND THINKING IT REALLY HAS NO CONTEXT TO THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO RATHER THAN JUST CONTINUING LOTTING, WE FELT LIKE WE REALLY NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THAT AREA.
WE MET WITH THE CITY ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE FELT LIKE WHAT WAS PROBABLY MORE PALATABLE AND WHAT WAS MORE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF WEST ANNA WOULD REALLY BE A LOCATION FOR A FUTURE FIRE STATION AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL PARK THAT WE FORMALLY PROGRAM, PICKLE BALLS, BASKETBALL COURTS, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO INTO REAL PARKS PLANNING.
AS WELL AS WE HEARD FROM THE LEADERSHIP FOR THE POTENTIAL NEED FOR A VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK OF SOME SORT.
WE FOUND THAT THOSE THREE USES WE COULD CO-LOCATE TOGETHER IN THAT TRIANGLE.
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND THE PROPOSAL WE'VE MADE TO THE CITY, THAT WOULD BE LAND THAT WE WOULD BE GIFTING TO THE CITY FOR THAT FUTURE FIRE STATION AND FOR THOSE PARKS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING SOME AMOUNT OF THE DESIGN AND MONEY TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION EVENTUALLY.
WE FIRST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RECLAMATION STUDIES, WE THEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FINAL DESIGNING, ETC.
THIS PROJECT IS NOT A PROJECT THAT IS ON THE IMMEDIATE HORIZON, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE WILL BE WORKING THROUGH WITH THE CITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THERE'S A PART OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ABOUT A QUARTER MILE, A HALF A MILE TO THE EAST BETWEEN OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY AND 75 CALLED CRYSTAL PARK THAT YOU APPROVED SOME TIME AGO, AND IT'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH CIVIL ENGINEERING, ETC.
THEY'RE PULLING THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER LINES, TAYLOR, ETC., CLOSER TO US.
ON THE IMMEDIATE EAST SIDE OF HURRICANE CREEK, WHICH IS ON OUR EASTERN BOUNDARY, THE SEWER LINE IS ALREADY AT THAT LOCATION, AND SO IT'S BASICALLY ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WE WOULD BE CONNECTING RIGHT INTO IT.
LASTLY, I WOULD LEAVE YOU WITH THIS.
AGAIN, I HEAR AND I'VE HEARD QUITE A BIT ABOUT THE GROWTH AND THE CHALLENGES OF GROWTH.
IT IS NOT LOST ON US WHATSOEVER.
WE ARE VERY INTENTIONAL WITH OUR DEVELOPMENTS AND WITH OUR DESIGNS.
THIS, AGAIN, IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON THE JOB GROWTH AND ALSO THE PROXIMITY NOT ONLY TO SHERMAN BUT TO MCKINNEY, AND TRYING TO DEAL WITH HOW WE HOUSE FOLKS RELATIVE TO THAT JOB GROWTH.
WITH THAT, I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND REALLY GIVE YOU MORE IF I CAN.
>> ANY COMMENTS? NO? YOU HAVE TOWN HOMES IN HERE AS WELL?
>> YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT.
>> THEN THE PINK FUCHSIA, THOSE ARE THE COTTAGES?
>> YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT.
>> THOSE ARE IN A SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN THE TOWN HOMES?
>> WELL, LET ME TRY TO EXPLAIN IT.
BOTH OF THEM ARE ESSENTIALLY FOUR PACKED TOWN HOMES.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE LIGHTER BLUE ONES ARE IN MORE OF A TRADITIONAL,
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THEY JUST FACE THE STREET, THEIR REAR ACCESS, THEY HAVE ALLEYS AND THEY JUST FACE THE STREET.THE COTTAGES, AS WE DISCUSSED WITH OUR LAST CASE, IT'S A DIFFERENT DESIGN CONCEPT ALTOGETHER.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THIS LANDSCAPE COURTYARD IN BETWEEN AND THEY FACE EACH OTHER, AND THEY'RE ACCESSED THROUGH ALLEYS IN THE BACK, AND THEY HAVE THESE LITTLE PODS OF GUEST PARKING AT THE END THAT ARE HIDDEN AS WELL.
ALTHOUGH THE PRODUCT IS VERY SIMILAR, THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT AND THE WAY IT INTERACTS IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.
WE SEE THESE BUNGALOWS OR COTTAGES ANYWHERE FROM COLLEGE TOWNS TO EVEN ACTUALLY RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES, AS CRAZY AS THAT SOUNDS.
BUT IT'S BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT INTERACTION WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR, GO OUTSIDE, DRINK A CUP OF COFFEE, DRINK A GLASS OF WINE, WHATEVER, AND YOU'VE GOT THAT MORE INTIMATE FEEL.
WHEREAS THE TOWN HOMES ARE MORE TRADITIONAL ALONG A STREET.
THE SQUARE FOOTAGES, IT'S ODD IN THE WAY WE AS PLANNERS DO GOOFY THINGS.
AND MS. MINKY IS GOING TO LAUGH ABOUT ALL THIS PLANNING STUFF THAT I'M ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT, IS THAT IF I'M PLANNING ON BUILDING ON, LET'S SAY JUST FOR EXAMPLE, A PAD THAT IS 40 BY 70.
THAT 40 BY 70 PAD, WHICH IS A TRADITIONAL PAD ON A TRADITIONAL LOT IS 2,800 SQUARE FEET.
MAYBE YOU DOUBLE STACK IT, FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR, THAT IS BASICALLY 2,800*2.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE GRADING, SETTING A BENCH, FOUNDATIONS, THE BACK PORCH, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
THAT'S NOT THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE HOUSE.
WITH ALL THIS MATH THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, THE LOT IS A CERTAIN WIDTH AND A CERTAIN DEPTH.
THE PAD IS A CERTAIN WIDTH AND A CERTAIN DEPTH.
UNTIL WE DESIGN THE ACTUAL FINAL HOUSE, I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, AND SOMETIMES WE ADD THESE LITTLE NICHES HERE AND THERE.
WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IS WE SCALE DOWN THE SIZE OF WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PD STANDARD.
BUT IT'S ONLY TO GIVE ME THAT ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DESIGN APPROPRIATELY.
OTHERWISE, I'D BE COMING BACK IN HERE AND SAYING, I NEED A VARIANCE FOR 10 SQUARE FEET.
YOU'D LOOK AT ME AND SAY, YOU OCCUPIED ALL OF THIS TIME FOR ME JUST FOR 10 SQUARE FEET.
I'D SAY, WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS A DODO WHEN I WROTE THE PD TO BEGIN WITH.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT THAT WAY.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE VARIANCES.
THE REALITY IS, AGAIN, THEY'RE TOWN HOMES, THEY'RE JUST SHAPED DIFFERENTLY.
>> SORRY FOR THE LONG-WINDED ANSWER.
>> NO, IT'S FINE. BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE ASK THE QUESTIONS.
WE MAY NOT KNOW, AND WHEN WE GET DETAILED ANSWERS, THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE.
>> ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO GET A LITTLE NERDY HERE, YOU SEE WHERE THE AMENITY CENTER IS, WE REALLY BROUGHT THE MAIN PART OF THE ENTRANCE DOWN THE SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND CAME INTO THIS DIVIDED WIDE OPEN AREA WITH A TRAFFIC CIRCLE, WHICH I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING HERE, MARTIN? BUT THEY WORK REALLY, REALLY WELL TO CONTROL TRAFFIC AND SPEED.
THEN WE PUT IN AN OPEN SPACE THAT HAS THE BACKDROP OF THE POOL AND THE AMENITY CENTER, AND THEN IT HAS THAT ASSOCIATED PARKING FOR IT AS WELL.
WE DO THOSE VERY, VERY INTENTIONALLY AND THEN PUT THE DENSER PRODUCT SURROUNDING THAT.
AGAIN, THE THEORY IS, IF YOU HAVE A SMALL LOT THAT YOU NEED TO GET OUT WITH ROVER, WHATEVER, THAT'S WHERE WE PUT THE AMENITY CENTERS WHERE THEY ARE.
IT'S NOT JUST AN AD HOC DECISION.
THE CHALLENGE WAS WITH OUR NARROW ENTRY UP TO THE TOP, AND YOU'VE GOT THE UTILITY LINES COMING IN AT AN ANGLE, YOU HAVE A VERY SMALL PORTAL OR WINDOW WITH HOW TO CREATE THAT.
WE HAD TO TILT IT ON ITS SIDE, THEN WE PUT THE DENSITY THERE, AND THEN THE LESS DENSE PRODUCT RADIATES FROM THERE.
>> WHERE'S THE MAIN ENTRY? IF YOU SAY THAT'S THE SIDE ENTRY, WHERE WILL [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE WILL BE A MAIN ENTRY.
I CALL IT SIDE ONLY TO DESCRIBE IT.
BUT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO DRESS UP THAT AREA THAT'S IN FLOODPLAIN AT THE HARD CORNER ON YOUR UPPER RIGHT-HAND OF YOUR EXHIBIT, AND BRING PEOPLE IN TO COME TO THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE INTENDING TO DO BECAUSE THAT MAKES FOR A BETTER LAND PLAN AND IT GETS, QUITE FRANKLY, YOUR TRAFFIC PATTERN MOVING MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY AND QUEUING UP WHERE IT SHOULD QUEUE UP AS OPPOSED TO IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S YARD.
>> GOT YOU. NOW, YOUR SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, ARE THOSE ALL THE SAME LOT SIZE OR YOU'RE GOING TO DO VARYING LOT SIZES?
>> THIS IS WHERE, AGAIN, PLANNERS GET A LITTLE WEIRDO.
OUR INTENTION IS, REALLY AS WE RADIATE TO THE WEST, TO DO 40, 50, 60, 70 WIDE PRODUCT, ETC.
BUT THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT ARE HAMPERING ME BEING ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER.
ONE IS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY FINAL RECLAMATION LINE IS.
TWO IS, UNTIL I FIND THE FINAL RECLAMATION LINE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY FINAL DESIGN OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE.
THAT'S WHAT WILL DICTATE HOW WE RADIATE OUT TO GET THE REST OF THOSE PRODUCTS IN THERE.
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THAT'S WHY IN THE PD, WHAT WE SAY IS IN ALL THE BEST THINKING THAT I CAN COME UP WITH, HERE'S THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS I THINK I CAN GET IN THERE.THEN MY FINAL WHEN I GET INTO PLATTING, WE WILL MASSAGE THAT TO GET ALL OF OUR HOUSING TYPES IN THERE.
>> GOT YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS?
>> WHAT'S THE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL EXPANSION GOING TO BE? IS THAT GOING TO BE A MIXED MATCH OF EVERYTHING OR JUST MORE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY?
>> IT'LL LITERALLY GO, AGAIN, NERDING OUT.
THERE'S THIS THING CALLED A TRANSECT, WHERE YOUR CORE IS YOUR MOST URBAN.
AS YOU EXTEND OUT, YOU GET LESS AND LESS DENSE AND YOU GET LARGER AND LARGER LOTS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING.
BUT AGAIN, UNTIL I FULLY RECLAIM, DO FINAL LAND PLANNING, I WON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
IT WILL NOT BE ANY DENSER THAN THAT.
>> OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. THANKS.
>> I HAD A COMMENT JUST ON THE, I DON'T KNOW, THIS ISN'T LIKE A PD, I GUESS IT'S THE JUST THE EXHIBIT B.
THE ONLY THING THAT STANDS OUT TO ME IS JUST THAT REPETITION OF THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS, DROPPING IT TO TWO WHERE IT'S AT FOUR. I'M GOING TO PUSH BACK ON THAT.
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. MR. HERMANN, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOU BROUGHT THAT UP THE LAST TIME.
BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE GET TO COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN THAT UP.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP, BUT I WAS SYMPATHETIC TO YOUR STATEMENT AND WE WENT BACK TO ARCHITECTURE.
WE ARGUED IT OUT A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE STARTING TO UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THE GENESIS IS THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COTTAGES, THEY FACE INWARD.
THEY DON'T FACE TO THE STREET.
IN A CASE LIKE THAT, THE REPETITION ISSUE IS ALMOST A MOOT POINT, IF YOU WOULD, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FACING TO THE STREET.
HOWEVER, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DESIGN, AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER ONE, THIS HAS LONG EXPANSES OF LONG STREET.
THE REPETITION ISSUE BECOMES EVEN MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU WOULD JUST HAVE A MONOTONY OF SAME AB, AB, AB, AB, AB, WHICH IS, I THINK, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM.
WE WILL ADDRESS THAT APPROPRIATELY, SIR. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP.
>> IN THE COTTAGES I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND THE REPETITION THERE, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. ABSOLUTELY, WE WILL.
SOME OF THAT WE'LL PROBABLY ADDRESS WITH ALSO AS WE'RE CHANGING TYPOLOGY OF HOMES.
THAT'S WHERE WE WILL DEAL WITH SOME OF THAT REPETITION.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS SOME FUNDAMENTALS.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE NAMES, BUT THERE'S A FEW HOME BUILDERS OUT THERE THAT FOLLOW THE ADAGE OF LIKE HENRY FORD.
YOU CAN HAVE YOUR MODEL T IN ANY COLOR AS LONG AS IT'S BLACK.
THERE ARE SUBDIVISIONS WHERE IT'S A SEA OF THE EXACT SAME ELEVATION, SAME BUILDING MATERIAL, AND EVEN THE SAME PAINT.
IT'S LIKE THEY GOT 20 TONS OF THIS STUFF AT HOME DEPOT AT A CHEAP PRICE, AND SO EVERY HOME IS PAINTED THE EXACTLY SAME WAY.
WE ABSOLUTELY ARE NOT DOING THAT, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE DESIGN ASPECTS OF HOW MANY FACADES DO YOU PUT IN THERE? BECAUSE IF YOU GO TOO FAR THE OTHER WAY, IT LOOKS LIKE A MR. POTATO HEAD.
IT'S JUST LIKE EVERY HOUSE IS SO DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER, IT GETS REAL BUSY IN THE NOT SO GOOD WAY.
IT'S FINDING THAT HAPPY MEDIUM.
>> I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THE SAME THING.
THEN LOOKING AT NUMBER 3, THE ZONING DISTRICT AREA REGULATIONS.
THERE'S A LOT OF STRIKE-THROUGHS ON THAT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING UP MORE FOR WHAT YOU'RE TAKING AWAY, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE TAKING AWAY.
IT'S MAINLY ON THE BUNGALOWS AND YOU ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE.
ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT YOUR CODE IS THAT IT CALLS OUT THE SAME UNIT TYPE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
THE FIRST TIME I REWROTE IT, I WROTE IT WITH ONE DEFINITION IN MIND, AND LAUREN WAS KIND ENOUGH TO BEAT ME OVER THE HEAD AND REMIND ME THAT, NO, THERE'S ALSO A SECOND DEFINITION, SO YOU CAN'T FORGET THAT ONE TOO. SHE WON THE ARGUMENT.
>> WHY THE GARAGE FOOTAGE CHANGE, SQUARE FOOTAGE OR PERCENTAGE RATHER?
>> THAT'S FOR THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, HOW MUCH IT TAKES UP.
WHAT SHE'S ASKING ABOUT IS THE MORE NARROW A HOME IS THE MORE THE FRONT, THE GARAGE DOOR TAKES UP.
>> SO THE HOME IS NARROWER AND THAT'S WHY THAT CHANGE?
>> BY DEFAULT, PERCENTAGES, IT GET. YEAH, THAT'S WHY.
>> IS THAT THE SAME REASON FOR THE UPFRONT PORCH TOO?
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>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? NO? WE GOT THEM ALL? I WILL MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY Y'ALL WANT TO STAY HERE.
[LAUGHTER] I HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT BY MYSELF AND A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
UNANIMOUS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7:16 PM.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.