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>> WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING FOR MONDAY,
[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]
MARCH 4TH, 2024.ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR DAVID NILE.
HE IS OUT DUE TO WORK OBLIGATION.
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE GIVEN BY COMMISSIONER BLANCHETTE. PLEASE STAND.
>> LET'S PRAY. FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN THIS EVENING.
FATHER, I PRAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORS.
FATHER, I PRAY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN HERE AND THOSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
FATHER, I PRAY FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY THE WILDFIRES OUT IN WEST TEXAS.
I PRAY FOR THEIR SAFETY AND HEALTH, AND AS THEY REBUILD AND RECOVER IN JESUS NAME I PRAY.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLANCHETTE. NEIGHBOR COMMENTS.
AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM ON THIS MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
ALSO, AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THIS MEETING AGENDA.
EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A CITIZEN'S INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON 18, 19, OR 20, YOU MAY SPEAK NOW AS THEY ARE NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS? NO. OKAY. I WILL CLOSE ITEM NUMBER 3 AND MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS.
[Consent Items]
DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO PULL AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?>> NO. IS THERE A MOTION FOR CONSENT ITEMS 5-10?
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> HE'S NOT HERE. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER WALDEN?
>> YES. COMMISSIONER BLANCHETTE?
>> AND MYSELF. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
ITEM NUMBER 11, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING,
[Items for Individual Consideration]
CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM AGRICULTURE TO DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT 5 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF FARM TO MARKET ROAD 2862.THE APPLICANT IS RALPH GRAHAM, FOUNDER [INAUDIBLE] PROPERTY GROUP LLC.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 06:15 PM.
>> THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED YOU A BOOKLET ON YOUR DESK.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF OF FARM TO MARKET 2862.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS FOR AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, AND THE REQUEST IS FOR THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT.
THIS IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
POTENTIAL USES THAT COULD GO ON THIS SITE INCLUDE A BED AND BREAKFAST CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT FUEL PUMPS, AND THEN THERE'S CERTAIN USES THAT WOULD REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SUCH AS A BAR OR GROCERY STORE.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.
THEY ARE SIMPLY JUST REZONING FROM AGRICULTURE TO DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
THEY RECEIVE DONE NEUTRAL LETTER.
>> DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
>> NO. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? DO THEY WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION?
>> COMMISSIONERS, RALPH GRAHAM, 4149 NORMANDY, DALLAS, TEXAS 75205.
FRIENDS CALL ME REGGIE. PLEASE FEEL FREE.
I'M REPRESENTING MY COMPANY IN THIS, BUT I'M ALSO REPRESENTING MY FAMILY.
WE'VE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR 50 YEARS.
WHEN WE NOTICED ACTUALLY THE INCLUSION INTO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN START TO PAY MORE CLOSELY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE CITY WANTED, I ATTEND EVERY COUNCIL MEETING THAT I CAN, AND I WATCH MOST OF THESE ONLINE.
WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS THE CHANGE OF ZONING TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 2050 DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN,
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AS WELL AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IN ORDER TO PERSONALLY LOOK FOR INVESTMENT FOR WHAT THAT LAND USE WILL BE.THIS IS A TYPICAL LAND LOOKING FOR A USE, VERSUS PUTTING IT ON THE OPEN MARKET, WHERE TRULY IT'S OUT OF MY HANDS.
I FEEL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK OUT FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR ANNA, WHAT SERVES THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY AND MY FAMILY IN ORDER TO TAKE A HANDS ON APPROACH.
ONE OF THE DRAWBACKS I'VE SEEN OF HAVING IT CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL IS THAT THERE'S A BIG UNKNOWN OVER WHAT I CAN TRULY USE THAT PROPERTY FOR.
DURING THE LAST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY CELEBRATED THE 50 YEARS LAST YEAR.
DURING THAT TIME, I'VE ADDRESSED THE COUNCIL.
I WAS RECOMMENDED BY MAYOR PIKE TO SPEAK WITH THE EDC/CDC, MET WITH JOEY GRISHAM, BRUCE NORWOOD, AND HAVE EXPLORED MANY POSSIBILITIES THROUGH THEM.
LIKE I SAID, I'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS MEANINGFUL AND BENEFICIAL TO ANNA.
THIS HELPS ME GET FURTHER ALONG THE WAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TONIGHT.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN BOOK. PLEASE FEEL FREE.
>> THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
>> HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT SURROUND YOUR PROPERTY?
>> YES. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE PRESAS TO THE SOUTH AND THEY HAVE SOME PLANS OF THEIR OWN.
I DON'T REPRESENT THEM, SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ON THAT.
CURRENTLY, THAT'S ZONED SINGLE FAMILY.
I WILL SAY THAT THEY OWN A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SIMILAR IN VAN ALSTEIN AND MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR A SIMILAR USE EVENTUALLY.
TO THE NORTH OF ME IS COYOTE MEADOWS, WHICH IS MIXED DENSITY.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO RESIDENTS THERE AS IT'S FINISHING UP LAND DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.
SO THAT THAT REALLY COVERS MY IMMEDIATE BORDERS THAT I FOCUSED ON.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 06:19 PM AND CONFINE ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? NO. IS THERE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11?
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER HERMAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
ITEM NUMBER 12, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACTION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED SUBDIVISION, MULTI FAMILY LOT AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON 116 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 371 AND NORTH POWELL PARKWAY.
APPLICANT IS HOWARD JOSEPH COX, 3 MONKEYS LLC, AND ELEANOR K. CUNNINGHAM.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 06:20 PM. MISS [INAUDIBLE].
>> THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S TWO PORTIONS TO IT.
THERE'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND A MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE FRONT OF POWELL PARKWAY.
FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY PORTION, THEY ARE PROPOSING THE MIXED DENSITY DISTRICT WITH THREE LOT TYPES WITH 40 FOOT, 50 FOOT, AND 60 FOOT WIDE LOTS, WITH A MINIMUM OF 115 FOOT LOT DEPTH, WHICH EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENT OF 80 FEET IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO RESTRICT THEMSELVES ONLY TO SINGLE FAMILY DETACH DWELLINGS IN THIS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
FOR THE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL PORTION, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE COMMERCIAL ALONG NORTH POWELL PARKWAY AND THEN HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND THE SINGLE FAMILY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS PROPERTY AS RANCHING IN AGRICULTURE.
THE PROPOSED LAND USES DO NOT CONFORM TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
HOWEVER, THE RANCHING AND AGRICULTURE PLACE TYPE DISCUSSES THAT CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL MAY BE APPROPRIATE, AND TWO OF THE THREE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY LOT TYPES DO MEET THAT CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL SIZE.
STIPULATIONS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO VARY FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS INCLUDES IN THE SINGLE FAMILY SECTION,
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THEY'RE REQUESTING TO SPECIFY WHAT IS CONSIDERED A MAJOR FOCAL POINT AND WHERE THE PARKING HAS TO BE.IT DOESN'T SPECIFY IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT THE PARKING HAS TO BE OFF STREET.
THEY'RE SHOWING THAT WITH THE SINGLE LOADED FRONTAGE AROUND THAT FIRST PARK, WHEN YOU ENTER THE SUBDIVISION, THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR THE PARKING.
THE SECOND PART OF THE REQUEST IS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY THEY ARE REQUESTING TO INSTEAD OF GOING BASED OFF OF THE NUMBER OF ROOMS IN THE SIZE OF THE UNITS TO GO 15% OF THE LOT.
SIMILAR REQUESTS FOR 20% HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR THE QUINN OFF OF 75 AND FOR THE VILLAGES OF WATERS CREEK ENHANCEMENTS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, RESTRICTING IT JUST TO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED IN THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION, PUTTING A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS FOR BOTH SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY, PROHIBITING CERTAIN USES IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND INCREASING THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFER FROM 10 FEET TO 20 FEET.
THE SINGLE FAMILY REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HOWEVER, THE MULTI-FAMILY AND THE COMMERCIAL IS NOT.
WE RECEIVED FOUR LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND ONE IN FAVOR.
IF THE COMMISSION VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO BE SUBJECT TO THE RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED WITHIN STAFF'S REPORT.
>> DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION?
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
I'M WITH SOUTHRIDGE PARK AND HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING ROCK HILL CAPITAL WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROPERTY AND THEY ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THIS REZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
I THINK LAUREN DID A GREAT JOB OF OUTLINING WHAT THE REQUEST IS AND THE PECULIARITIES OF SOME OF THE SPECIFIC ASK TO MAKE THIS WORK.
IT'S AN UNUSUAL ARRANGEMENT BECAUSE IT'S A TRUE MIXED USE APPLICATION FOR 116 ACRE TRACT, WHICH IS A LOT OF TIMES DIFFICULT TO DO, A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT LOCATION OR THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.
WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DELIVER A TRUE MIXED USE PROJECT ON THE 116 ACRES IN A WAY THAT BLENDS ALL OF THESE LAND USES IN A, I THINK, VERY ELABORATE AND VERY ELEGANT WAY.
TONIGHT, I'VE ALSO GOT LEXI CASSELS WITH KIMLEY-HORN, WHO'S THE PROJECT ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.
AND JAMES KNAPP, WHO IS THE LAND PLANNER WITH KNAPP LAND SOLUTIONS.
JAMES DOES SOME OF THE MOST CREATIVE LAND PLANNING WORK IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA.
I WANT JAMES TO COME DOWN AND JUST WALK US THROUGH BRIEFLY HOW THESE LAND USES WORK TOGETHER, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW HE PUT THIS TOGETHER.
NAME IS JAMES KNAPP AND KNAPP LAND SOLUTIONS.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS THIS EVENING.
WE'LL TRY TO PULL UP THIS LAND PLAN FOR EVERYBODY.
JUST WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF OUR THOUGHTS AND DESIGN AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS.
ONE OF THE FIRST THING WE LOOKED AT WAS THE THREE DIFFERENT LAND USES AND HOW WE CAN POSSIBLY BLEND THOSE THREE DIFFERENT LAND USES TOGETHER.
AS WE LOOKED AT THE SITE, WE HAD A SERIES OF A COUPLE OF EASEMENTS THAT WERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF OUR SITE THAT ULTIMATELY GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CREATE A REALLY NEAT GREEN SPACE THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY ALLOW US TO CONNECT THESE THREE DIFFERENT LAND USES TOGETHER.
THE WAY THOSE EASEMENTS ARE EVEN SET UP AND SPACED APART, WE COULD CREATE A REALLY UNIQUE SITUATION WITH A NICE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL SYSTEM WITH AN ALLEY OF TREES.
IT'S BEEN SPECIFICALLY SET UP TO LEAVE THE ADDITIONAL ROOM FOR TREE PLANTING ALONG THOSE EASEMENTS SO THAT YOU'D HAVE THIS REALLY NICE ALLEY OF TREES AND HIKE BIKE TRAIL TO CONNECT.
ULTIMATELY, ALL THREE OF THOSE LAND USES.
ALSO JUST ULTIMATELY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, THE CR 371, IT JUST WILL CREATE A REALLY NICE OPEN GREEN SPACE FILL ALONG THAT COUNTY ROAD THERE.
THE OTHER THING IS, JUST AS WE LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE SITE ITSELF,
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THAT WE WANTED THAT TO BE HIGHLY ACCESSIBLE, HIGHLY VISIBLE.ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU ENTER INTO THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE OUR PRIMARY POCKET PARK THERE ON THE NORTHERN END.
WE ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO SEPARATE THAT FROM THE PRIMARY TRAIL THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ALONG THE NORTHERN SITE.
WE'VE SPECIFICALLY OPENED THAT UP AS WELL AS WE JUST ALSO DIDN'T HAVE A BUNCH OF HOMES BACKING TO THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE WITH THAT TRAIL CORRIDOR AND THE ALLEY OF TREES, WE'VE OPENED UP TO THE SIDES OF STREET, THAT SLIP STREET IN THERE IN THE SIDES OF HOMES JUST TO CREATE THAT OVERALL VISIBILITY INTO THE COMMUNITY.
THOSE POCKET PARKS THEN WE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
TRYING TO MAKE THOSE IS JUST WELL DISTRIBUTED AND AS WELL VISIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO AS MUCH OF THE COMMUNITY AS WE COULD FROM A VISIBILITY STANDPOINT, AS WELL AS JUST ACCESSIBILITY.
WE HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PRODUCT SIZES FROM THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'VE TRIED TO INCLUDE.
HERE WE HAVE THE THREE DIFFERENT SIZES OF THE THREE DIFFERENT SIZES, WE'VE GOT OUR LARGEST HOMES AS BEING THE PRIMARY LOCATIONS THAT YOU COME INTO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE THE MOST VISIBLE OF THE THREE PRODUCTS, WITH OUR SMALLEST PRODUCT BEING THE PRODUCT THAT'S TUCKED AWAY HIDDEN.
THAT YOU GOT TO SPECIFICALLY GO INTO THOSE STREETS TO EVEN SEE THOSE PRODUCTS SO TRYING TO SHOWCASE THE LARGEST PRODUCT THAT WE'VE GOT.
THEN WE'VE TRANSITIONED THAT AGAIN TO THE MULTIFAMILY AND ULTIMATELY TO THE COMMERCIAL.
AS YOU GET CLOSER TO HIGHWAY 5.
ALL OF THIS AGAIN, BEING CONNECTED BY WHAT WILL BE ULTIMATELY THAT GREEN CORRIDOR ACROSS THAT.
WE'VE EVEN LEFT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WHAT WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE WE PLAN TO HAVE A BUFFER ADJACENT TO THAT EXISTING COMMUNITY TO OUR SOUTH, SO TO EVEN CONNECT FROM A SINGLE FAMILY STANDPOINT TO THAT MULTIFAMILY.
THAT CONNECTION NOT ONLY HAPPENS ON THE NORTH SOUTH SIDE, BUT ALSO ON THAT SOUTH SIDE WITH THAT BUFFER ACROSS THERE.
THEN LASTLY, GET INTO THAT RETAIL AND JUST AGAIN, THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT ANYBODY COULD WALK AND ACCESS IT AND THE MULTIFAMILY WOULD EVEN HELP SUPPORT THE VIABILITY OF WHAT THAT RETAIL IS ON THAT CORNER.
>> ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT HERE ON THIS PROJECT? GO AHEAD. WALDEN.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES OF WHAT THOSE BUFFERS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY?
>> THERE WON'T BE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE RETAIL AND THE MULTIFAMILY, BUT THERE WILL BE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE RETAIL, AND THE EXISTING COMMUNITY TO THE SOUTH, AS WELL AS FROM THE MULTIFAMILY TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY SOUTH.
I THINK WE WERE REQUIRED 10 FEET BY CODE.
WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO 20 FEET IN JUST LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THEN OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING PARKING AND ALL THAT THAT EVEN FURTHER PUSH THOSE BUILDINGS OFF THAT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
WE ARE NOT THERE'S AN EXISTING STREET STUB TO OUR SOUTH AND THAT EXISTING COMMUNITY THAT WE WILL NOT BE CONNECTING TO, THERE WILL BE NO TRAFFIC GOING FROM THE EXISTING COMMUNITY TO OUR SOUTH THROUGH THE MULTIFAMILY, OR VICE VERSA.
>> ON THAT MULTIFAMILY HOW MANY STORIES ARE WE LOOKING AT ON THAT?
>> I THINK IT'S THE THREE STORIES.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE STORY ON THE MULTIFAMILY.
>> IS THERE LIKE A PATIO OR SOMETHING TO LOOKING BACK INTO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE FROM THAT OR?
>> WELL, THAT SITE PLAN HAS TO COME BACK THROUGH FOR APPROVAL.
THAT COULD BE LAID OUT IN INFINITE DIFFERENT WAYS TO JUST DEPENDING ON WHO THAT ULTIMATE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER IS.
THEY HAVE THEIR ARCHITECTS THAT DO IT TYPICALLY THEIR STYLE, THEIR WAY WITH THEIR AMENITIES ULTIMATELY.
>> THERE'S NO SCHEMATICS OR ANYTHING IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
>> THERE'S NO SCHEMATICS OR ANYTHING CURRENTLY.
THERE'S NO RENDERINGS RIGHT NOW.
>> THERE'S A PRELIMINARY THAT THEY'RE SHOWING FOUR STORIES IN SOME AREAS, ONE IN SOME ONE STORIES.
>> WE HAVE THE CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT.
BUT THAT WAS JUST BASED ON US JUST LAND PLANNERS JUST SHOWING WHAT THAT SITE COULD POTENTIALLY BE.
BUT ULTIMATELY, AGAIN, A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER THAT WOULD PURCHASE THAT WOULD HAVE THEIR ARCHITECTS SPECIFICALLY DESIGN AND LAY THAT OUT.
THAT'S WHY THIS GRAPHIC HERE SPECIFICALLY JUST LET IT AS A BUBBLE.
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FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS, SAME WITH KIND OF THE RETAIL.THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS IN THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE PARKING NEEDS BASED ON THE ACTUAL WHETHER IT'S A RESTAURANT OR A STRIP CENTER, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE FLEXIBLE.
>> HAVE YOU PERSONALLY EVER BEEN DOWN COUNTY ROAD 371 DURING THE MORNING TIME? DURING THE AFTERNOONS?
>> I'VE BEEN DOWN IT, NOT SPECIFICALLY DURING MORNING.
>> AS A DEVELOPER, ARE YOU AWARE THAT JKB, THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT SERVICES PRE-K ALL THE WAY THROUGH FIFTH GRADE THAT'S DOWN THAT ROAD?
>> YES, AND WE KNOW OF THE SCHOOL PLUS THEN THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS ALSO THE REASON WE HAVE THE TRAIL THAT'S ALSO ON THE WEST SIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, A 10 FOOT HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WOULD TAKE ANY OF THE RESIDENTS SOUTH TO THOSE SCHOOLS THAT ARE TO THE SOUTH OF THIS SITE.
>> HOW FAMILIAR ARE YOU WITH THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, AS FAR AS THE ROADWAYS GO? BECAUSE CURRENTLY, WHEN A FEW OF THE DEVELOPMENTS WERE APPROVED, LIKE THE ANACAPRI, THE WOODS AT LINDSLEY PLACE, THEY WEREN'T PART OF THAT MASTER THOROUGH PLAN WHEN THEY WERE APPROVED.
>> WE HAVE CONCERNS, OR I HAVE CONCERNS, THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GRAVELY IMPACT THAT, AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC FLOW COMING ONTO CR 371.
WHEN YOU GO PAST JKB, I PERSONALLY HAVE A CHILD THAT ATTENDS JKB AND TRAFFIC'S ALREADY HORRENDOUS THERE IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON.
THIS PLAN WILL HINDER ACCESS TO 75 AS PART OF THAT PLAN.
>> AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY FOR BOTH COUNTY ROAD 371 AS WELL AS WEST CROSSING.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WEST CROSSING AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL TWO LANES FOR COUNTY ROAD 371.
MEGATEL IS ALSO HAVING TO DO THAT WITH ANACAPRI, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A 90 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
DURING THE MEGATEL ZONING, WE TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND THIS PORTION WILL BE 90 FEET.
IT WAS ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN BEFORE IT WAS CHANGED. THIS PORTION, [OVERLAPPING].
>> THEY'RE SHOWING 30, BUT IT'LL HAVE TO INCREASE TO.
>> NINETY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT?
>> RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LOOKING TO REZONE THE LAND.
YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THERE LATER, THREE-STOREY, FOUR-STOREY, THE 20-FOOT EASEMENT?
>> THAT IS ALL STUFF THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN INTO OUR DOCUMENT TO BE ESSENTIALLY CODIFIED FOR THIS.
YES, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE'VE AGREED TO THAT WOULD LOCK US IN ON THOSE THINGS. YES.
>> WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE LOCKED INTO?
>> I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
>> THE 20-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER RIGHT NOW IN A MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT, IT'S ONLY A 10-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S REQUIRED, AND SO PART OF THE STIPULATIONS, THEY'RE PROPOSING 20 FEET INSTEAD OF 10 FEET.
[OVERLAPPING] THIS THING IS PLAN DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN PROPOSE ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS.
>> HAVE YOU GUYS TALKED TO TXDOT ABOUT THE LIGHT INTERSECTION THAT'S SIGNAL POWER NOW BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GRAVELY AFFECT THAT FLOW?
>> I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN FOR JAMES TO TAKE ALL THESE OTHER QUESTIONS.
HE'S REALLY JUST THE LAND PLANNER. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
>> THERE'S A SECOND SLIDE AS A PART OF THE PRESENTATION WHICH GETS INTO, I THINK, SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'RE HEARING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AS PART OF THE PD ZONING, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST CONCEPT PLAN AND PD ZONING TODAY.
WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS LAYOUT, ARCHITECTURE, COLORS ANY OF THOSE THINGS, NOR FOR THE COMMERCIAL.
BOTH OF THOSE WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS FOR BOTH THE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL.
WHOLE BIGGER DISCUSSION, CONVERSATION AND WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY AT THAT TIME.
BUT THIS IS A SCHEMATIC, THIS IS A WAY THAT THE BUILDINGS COULD WORK.
THE IDEA HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE SETBACKS, TURNING MOVEMENTS, INJURIES, AND INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM STATE HIGHWAY 5 AND 371.
THIS IS A SLIDE TO SHOW WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE PERIMETER STREETS.
WE DO UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC SITUATIONS IN THE AREA,
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ESPECIALLY WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.WE'LL BE DOING TWO ADDITIONAL LANES ON THE WESTERLY ROAD THAT GOES NORTH, SOUTH, AND TIES INTO 371.
THEN ON 371, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SECTION THERE, WE'RE ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL LANES TO 371.
THE INTERSECTION 371 AND HIGHWAY 5 ARE ALREADY SIGNALIZED.
WE UNDERSTAND FROM DOT THAT THERE IS A SCHEMATIC FOR HIGHWAY 5 AND THAT INTERSECTION OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
WE COULD NOT GET TXDOT TO GIVE US A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE IN PLACE, BUT IT'S AT LEAST A SCHEMATIC DESIGN WHICH MEANS IT'S THE SECOND OF THREE HURDLES TO BECOMING REALITY.
WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHOWED THIS.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE SHOWING IN THIS SCHEMATIC, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THOSE WORK WITH THE TXDOT SCHEMATIC FOR HIGHWAY 5.
AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO DOVETAIL THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE MATCH UP WITH WHAT THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IS PLANNING FOR THAT ROADWAY.
THIS IS AN EXHIBIT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD POINTS THAT ARE REQUIRED AS A PART OF THE PD, SHOWS WHERE WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE'VE EARNED POINTS FOR THE DESIGN AND HOW THOSE WORK WITH THE OVERALL SITE.
I THINK IT'S FAIRLY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
AGAIN, I REALLY LIKE THE SITE LAYOUT.
I THINK IT INTEGRATES THESE MIXES IN THE WAY JAMES EXPLAINED A VERY CREATIVE WAY.
THE FINAL THING THAT I THINK WE WANT TO POINT OUT IS JUST THE FISCAL ADVANTAGES TO OUR PROPOSAL.
IF YOU STAYED WITH WHAT'S CALLED THE PREFERRED SCENARIO DIAGRAM, THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, AND YOU ASSUME THE DENSITIES THAT ARE IN THAT DIAGRAM, THEN YOUR EXPECTED PROPERTY TAX OVER 30-YEAR PERIOD IS ABOUT $25 MILLION.
YOU COMPARE THAT TO THIS PROPOSAL AND PROPERTY TAX FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, FOR THE COMMERCIAL, AS WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL SALES TAX.
IT'S OVER DOUBLE WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OTHERWISE.
I BELIEVE FISCALLY, IT'S NOT ONLY A SMART PLAN BUT IT'S A SMART FISCAL DECISION FOR THE CITY TO MAKE.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE SLIDES?
>> YOUR MULTI-FAMILY, WHERE WOULD THE MAIN ENTRY BE? WOULD IT BE ON 371 OR HIGHWAY 5?
>> YEAH, FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND THE APARTMENTS.
[NOISE] YOU SEE HOW THE COMMERCIAL HAS TWO DRIVEWAYS OFF HIGHWAY 5.
WELL, 371 PROBABLY HAS AS MUCH TRAFFIC ON AS HIGHWAY 5 DOES, BUT HIGHWAY 5 IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE IMPORTANT ROADWAY.
THE COMMERCIAL REALLY SETS UP TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TRIPS ON HIGHWAY 5 AND TO BUFFER THAT FROM THE MULTIFAMILY.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THERE'S TWO ACCESS DRIVES FROM HIGHWAY 5 INTO THE COMMERCIAL.
ONE OF THOSE ACCESS DRIVES ALSO SERVES AS A DRIVEWAY INTO THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE THAT REAL MIXED-USE FEEL WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
THERE'S ALSO TWO ENTRIES OFF OF 371.
THE ONE THAT'S FURTHER TO THE EAST WOULD CERTAINLY SERVE THE COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS THE MULTIFAMILY.
THEN THE ONE ON THE WEST SIDE, PRIMARILY FOR THE MULTIFAMILY.
TWO POINTS OF ACCESS OFF BOTH OF THE MAJOR ROADWAYS.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? NO? THANK YOU.
I DO HAVE SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
FIRST ONE I HAVE IS MIRANDA HARP. MAKE SURE YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I LIVE AT 133 MEADOW RIDGE DRIVE.
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I HAD SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MULTIFAMILY USE AND THE INTERSECTION LEADING INTO THE MULTIFAMILY USE FROM MEADOW GLEN DRIVE.SINCE SHADOW HAS BEEN THERE, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM ROSAMOND PARKWAY LEADING TO ACCESS TO HIGHWAY 5, AND SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF SPEEDERS DOWN MEADOW RIDGE DRIVE.
I'M CURIOUS ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC THAT'S LEADING FROM GLEN DRIVE, FROM THE MULTI-USE, FROM THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I WISH THAT MAYBE IF THERE COULD BE A BARRIER, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE APARTMENTS THERE LEADING INTO A HOUSING COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS TODD ST. PAY.
ALSO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THREE MINUTES.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TODD ST. PAY.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY PROUD OF ANNA'S FORWARD LOOKING POLICY TOWARDS DEVELOPMENT, AND I REALLY THINK WE STOLE SOME THUNDER FROM MELISSA.
BUT THAT FORWARD LOOKING VIEWPOINT IS ONE I THINK WE NEED TO STICK TO.
WE HAVE THE LUXURY AS A CITY OF, WE KNOW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO COME TO US, WE KNOW THAT ANNA IS GROWING.
WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF SAYING, THIS IS A FIT FOR US OR THIS ISN'T A FIT FOR US.
WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF SAYING, THIS WILL MAKE OUR TOWN A BETTER PLACE FOR US, OR NOT.
GIVEN HOW DIFFICULT IT ALREADY IS TO GET TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, OR IN MY CASE, PAST THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE MORNING OR IN THE EVENING, WHEN CHILDREN ARE BEING PICKED UP AND DROPPED OFF, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
IF THEY WIDEN IT, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EASEMENT THAT'S 20 FEET INSTEAD OF 10 BACK AWAY FROM THE ROAD, HOW IS THAT GOING TO PLAY WHEN THEY'RE HAVING WIDEN THE LANES? HERE'S ANOTHER THING I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY OF ANNA OWNS OR IS IN CHARGE OF REPAIRING MANTUA ROAD ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGHWAY.
IF YOU DRIVE THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS, IT'S A DISASTER.
THEY HAVE TRIED TO RESURFACE THAT THING AT LEAST FOUR TIMES SINCE WE'VE MOVED HERE, AND IT NEVER WORKS.
THEY ACTUALLY TORE IT DOWN AND PUT ON A NEW ONE THIS LAST TIME, AND I THOUGHT, YAY, BUT IT'S STILL NOT LASTING.
THAT ROAD IS JUST NOT SUFFICIENT.
THE SECOND GENTLEMAN SAID THAT, AS IF IT WAS A SELLING POINT, THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE AN ENTRANCE FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD INTO THE ONE THAT'S TO THE SOUTH OF THEM.
IF WE WANTED TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC, THEN THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, NOT A SELLING POINT..
AN APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT HERE AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK WILL BRING VALUE TO THE HOUSES AROUND IT.
AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN MCKINNEY, I KNOW THAT EAST MCKINNEY IT'S DIED, WHEREAS THE WEST SIDE OF MCKINNEY, IT'S GREAT, AND IT'S DEVELOPING.
IT'S GREAT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AND DIVIDE OUR TOWN INTO A LEAST PROSPEROUS PLACE AND A MORE PROSPEROUS PLACE BECAUSE THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD THE EAST BACK UP.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ANITA ST. PAY.
>> I'M ANITA ST. PAY, AND I LIVE AT 2512 MARGARET LANE IN ANNA.
THAT WAS MY HUSBAND SPEAKING, BUT I HAVE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS.
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ONE OF THEM IS THE RAILROAD TRACK WHERE THE TRAIN GOES THROUGH, THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP ON HIGHWAY 5 AND IT BACKS UP ON THE 371 AT DIFFERENT TIMES WHEN THE RAILROAD THING.YOU HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL PIECE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE CONSIDERED THAT OR IF THEY'RE ADDING COMMERCIAL USE OF THE MULTIFAMILY.
I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO ADD ANOTHER PIECE TO THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE APARTMENTS, IF YOU WIDEN THE ROAD THERE, NOW YOU HAVE CHILDREN WHO ARE GOING TO MAYBE HAVE TO BE BUSED TO SCHOOL, IF THEY'RE GOING TO JOE K BRYANT OR I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WHERE THE DISTRICT WOULD DRAW THE LINES FOR WHERE THE KIDS WOULD GO TO SCHOOL.
BUT YOU MAY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COST BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE TO BUS.
NOW, IF YOU'VE MADE THAT A BIG STREET AND YOU'VE MADE HIGHWAY 5 A BIG STREET, WHERE ARE THE KIDS GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL? I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER FOR ITEM NUMBER 12.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:48 PM.
THERE'S SOMEONE THAT I WANT TO SPEAK [INAUDIBLE].
>> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 2117 MEADOW DRIVE IN ANNA.
MY CONCERN IS THAT THE APARTMENTS ARE SO CLOSE TO SHADOWBEND.
WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH CRIME AS IT IS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL THE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN.
I'VE LIVED IN APARTMENTS MY WHOLE LIFE IN COMPLEXES, AND I KNOW THE KINDS OF CRIME RATES THAT ARE THERE.
IT'S FAR WORSE THAN IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE SOMEBODY BUYS THEIR HOME OR THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN A HOME LIKE THAT.
I JUST THINK THAT WITH A MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT, IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT MORE CRIME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED THE SPEEDERS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ANY GIVEN DAY ON OUR STREET, IT'S A MAIN STREET THAT RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN JUST HEAR PEOPLE ACCELERATE THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH.
THEY DON'T LET OFF. IT'S CRAZY.
I DRIVE FAST CARS, BUT I DON'T DRIVE FAST THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN TOO WITH THAT MULTIFAMILY, IS THAT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AND A LOT MORE RANDOM PEOPLE COMING AND GOING, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT IS AN APARTMENT AND IT'S NOT JUST A HOUSE WHERE YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW EVERYBODY AROUND YOU.
IT'S A LOT OF RANDOMS THAT ARE JUST STACKED UP AND STACKED UP.
I THINK THIS TOWN IS AT ITS CAPACITY OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN IT RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO GET ACROSS TOWN ALL THREE MILES OF IT IS A HASSLE.
THE STOP LIGHTS ARE BACKED UP, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE, AND THE LANES, THEY'RE JUST NOT WIDE ENOUGH. WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
EVERYBODY SAID, MANTUA ROAD, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IT'S BACKED UP, THE RAILROAD CROSSING, IT'S BACKED UP, AND I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A BIG HASSLE.
THESE DEVELOPER GUYS THAT COME IN AND THEY WANT TO BUILD ALL THIS, THEY DON'T LIVE HERE FIRSTHAND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE EVERY DAY TRYING TO GET THROUGH.
[APPLAUSE] I THINK A LOT OF US ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THESE ZONING CHANGES, AND WE'D ALL RATHER BE AT HOME DRINKING A BEER [APPLAUSE]
>> I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:50.
PLEASE HOLD YOUR COMMENTS UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING.
ALL COMMENTS WILL BE CONFINED NOW TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? NO. WELL, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT VERY CLOSE TO THIS ON 455 THAT'S COMING ON ONLINE.
AS HE SAID, THIS COULD BE GOOD DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF ANNA.
>> THE SINGLE FAMILY, I DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH OF A PROBLEM.
PROBLEM WITH THE MULTIFAMILY THERE AND THE WAY THEY HAVE IT ON THE SITE, WHICH I KNOW THIS IS CONCEPTUAL.
WE REZONE, THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE THE FINAL SITE PLAN.
THE COMMERCIAL MAKES SENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE ON A HARD CORNER OF LIGHTED INTERSECTION.
BUT THAT MULTIFAMILY IF YOU'RE PUTTING UP THREE STORY, FOUR STORY, I MEAN, LOOK AT HOW IT IS ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
YOU'RE LOOKING RIGHT INTO THE BACKYARD OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS OVER THERE.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION OF HOW TALL THAT'S GOING TO BE?
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I REALLY NEVER GOT A STRAIGHT ANSWER.>> I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW YET. IT'S JUST CONCEPTUAL.
>> THEY GET IT ZONED, THEY CAN FLIP IT OFF, AND THE APARTMENT DEVELOPER WILL COME IN AND DECIDE WHAT THAT IS. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> I HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT.
>> I AGREE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY, BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE COMMERCIAL RIGHT THERE ON FIVE.
>> WELL, THAT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL.
>> BUT THE OTHER NEXT TO IT ARE BOTH HOUSES.
>> YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND YOU ALREADY HAVE COMMERCIAL JUST ACROSS THE OTHER WAY OF THE STREET AND IT'S NOT CAUSING A PROBLEM NOW.
>> WELL, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE COMMERCIAL THERE.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SPOT FOR THE COMMERCIAL.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT MULTIFAMILY BLOCK CANNOT ALSO BE RESIDENTIAL.
[APPLAUSE] THAT HARD CORNER NEEDS TO BE COMMERCIAL.
I THINK THERE'S A GOOD USE OF THAT.
I WOULD ASK THE DEVELOPER TO GO BACK AND LOOK IN TURNING THAT MULTIFAMILY INTO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST THIS.
>> WE CAN PUT A RESTRICTION ON THE ZONING AND ZONE IT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY AND THE COMMERCIAL.
>> WITH ZONING, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING MORE RESTRICTIVE, NOT LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT WAS ADVERTISED.
SO SINGLE FAMILY IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN MULTIFAMILY.
>> WITH ZONING CASE, YOU CAN PROPOSE STIPULATIONS THAT ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE, JUST NOT LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT WAS ADVERTISED.
>> IS THERE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12?
>> I VOTE, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.
>> WOULD YOU RECONSIDER WITH JUST STRAIGHT SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL AND TAKE OUT THE MULTIFAMILY, OR YOU WANT TO DENY THE WHOLE THING?
>> I THINK RIGHT NOW I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> I'M GOING TO GO WITH NO, BECAUSE I WOULD PASS IT WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THE COMMERCIAL, BUT THE MOTION DOES PASS ONE NAY, THE REST AYES.
ON ITEM NUMBER 13, WHICH IS CONTINGENT ON NUMBER 12.
CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON THE COX TRACK CONCEPT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS HOWARD JOSEPH COX/THREE MONKEYS LLC, AND ELEANOR K. CUNNINGHAM.
IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 13?
>> I RECOMMEND NO ACTION SINCE THE ZONING WAS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
>> I WILL, MOTION FOR NO ACTION.
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HERMANN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> WHERE DID COMMISSIONER BLANSCET GO?
>> WE WILL HAVE HIM AS ABSTAIN AND MYSELF.
WE'RE GOING OUT OF ORDER HERE.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACTION ON A REQUEST TO ANNEX AND ZONE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DWELLING RETAIL AND RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT ON 40 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FUTURE ROSAMOND PARKWAY AND COUNTY ROAD 288.
THE APPLICANT IS PRITT FARAGE, LOGANOTHIN, ANNA 288 HOLDING LLC.
THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL APRIL'S MEETING, APRIL 1ST, 2024 AT COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED 120 WEST SEVENTH STREET, ANNA TEXAS 75409.
THAT ALSO TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 17.
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>> MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO LET ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE SPEAK ON THIS ITEM BEFORE VOTING TO TABLE.
>> WE CAN DO THAT. WE HAVE SEVEN SPEAKER CARDS.
YOU WILL GET THREE MINUTES EACH.
WE'LL START WITH TARROL CULBERSON.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TERRELL CULBERTSON N. I LIVE AT 10429 COUNTY ROAD 289, ANNA.
MY HOME IS APPROXIMATELY A MILE AND A-HALF FROM THIS PROPOSED SIDE OF THIS ZONING CHANGE.
I MOVED TO RURAL ANNA, TEXAS, AND I EMPHASIZE RURAL, IN 1981, THE POPULATION WAS JUST UNDER 800.
LOOKING AT THE YOUNG FACES UP HERE, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE SOME OF YOU WERE EVEN BORN, SO I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.
I HAVE WATCHED THE POPULATION EXPLOSION AND THE GROWTH.
WHEN I BOUGHT THE FIRST PROPERTY, I DID NOT GO INTO AN URBAN AREA OR A COMMERCIAL AREA, AND ASK TO HAVE THAT REZONED TO ACCOMMODATE ME.
I WENT INTO A RURAL AREA AND I SOUGHT OUT AN AGRICULTURAL SETTING, SINGLE FAMILY AGRICULTURAL, SO THAT I COULD HOUSE MY HORSES WHERE I LIVED.
I BOUGHT A HOME AND A SMALL ACREAGE FOR ALL I COULD AFFORD IN AN AREA THAT WAS SURROUNDED BY SIMILAR PROPERTIES.
IN 1993, WHEN MY LATE WIFE AND I MARRIED, WE HAD OUR SEPARATE PROPERTIES, WE OWNED SIX HORSES, FIVE DOGS, TWO OF WHICH WERE QUITE LARGE, AND TWO CATS.
WE HAD A TWO SEAT WITH A FRINGE ON TOP AND AN ANTIQUE DOCTOR'S BUGGY, AND SO WE NEEDED PROPERTY THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THAT.
AGAIN, WE WENT INTO A RURAL SETTING AND MADE THAT PURCHASE.
I'VE LIVED IN THAT HOUSE, ON THAT PROPERTY FOR A LITTLE OVER 30 YEARS.
I AM ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO REZONING THIS PRISTINE RURAL AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY TO ANYTHING BUT SINGLE FAMILY AGRICULTURAL DWELLINGS.
THE PROPERTY, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR RECOMMENDATION FROM YOUR STAFF IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, THE STAFF STATES THAT THIS DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE EXISTING APPROVED CITY OF ANNA LAND USE PLAN FOR THE ETJ OR ZONING.
IF YOU DID APPROVE THIS PLAN, IT WOULD REQUIRE CONSTRUCTING AN, I SUSPECT, EXPENSIVE, BRIDGE ACROSS HURRICANE CREEK TO GET ACCESS.
IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH COUNTY ROAD 288, I WANT TO PAINT YOU A PICTURE.
>> THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. [APPLAUSE]
>> SEAN SMITH. YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> MY NAME IS SEAN SMITH. I LIVE AT 11089 COUNTY ROAD 289 IN ANNA, BUT I ALSO LEASE THE LAND RIGHT ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY THAT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. I AM OPPOSED TO THIS.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, WHEN I FINALLY DECIDED TO BUILD IN ANNA, HAD PROPERTY FOR A WHILE, WE WERE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH AND FILL OUT THE APPLICATION, AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, DOES THIS PLAN ADHERE WITH THE 2050 MASTER PLAN.
GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT IT, YES, IT DID.
IN FACT, I GOT TO TELL YOU, I WAS IMPRESSED WHEN I WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT ANNA HAD SUCH A DETAILED PLAN TO GO THROUGH AND HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT.
NOW, I KNOW THAT PLANS CHANGE.
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THERE'S ALSO STIPULATIONS IN THERE FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND ALSO CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL.LOOKING AT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN THE CONCEPT PLAN, IT'S NEITHER OF THESE.
IT'S MULTIFAMILY, IT'S TOWN HOME, IT'S COMMERCIAL.
IT DOES NOT FIT WITH THE 2050 PLAN IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
I THINK THIS IS WHERE TERRELL WAS ABOUT TO GO.
IT'S THAT OUT THERE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, 288 IS A TWO LANE ROAD, IT'S FALLING APART JUST BECAUSE OF THE NORMAL TRAFFIC, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY HOUSES.
ON THE ROAD THAT I'M ON, DUE TO THE MANCHA WAY OR MANTUA, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT TO PRONOUNCE IT, CONSTRUCTION, MY ROAD IS BEGINING TO GET TORN UP BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE 18 WHEELERS, CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, USING THAT ROAD, AND THE TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.
ONCE AGAIN, A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD.
PEOPLE SPEED DOWN THAT ONE, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS.
WE LOVE TO SIT ON THE BACK PORCH, HEAR A CAR SPEED AND CRASH BECAUSE IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS, WINDY ROAD.
THE OTHER THING IS IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON 455, EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN'T GET PAST IT.
IT'S JUST NOT A GREAT AREA TO GO THROUGH AND PUT A HIGH RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THERE ARE NO EMERGENCY SERVICES, THERE'S NO FIRE POLICE.
RIGHT NOW, THE AREA IS SERVICED BY WESTON.
THE POLICE IS GOING TO BE THE STATE OR THE COUNTY SHERIFF.
LIKE CHERYL WAS SAYING, THERE IS NO PLAN TO GO THROUGH AND CONNECT ROSEMAN.
IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT AREA, YOU'VE GOT TO GO FROM 75 ALL THE WAY DOWN 455 AND HOOK BACK ONTO SMALL COUNTY ROADS.
ALSO THERE HAVE BEEN NO PLANS OR ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO HOW TO GO THROUGH AND REMEDY THAT.
ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TO GO DOWN 455, WE CAN'T DO, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO GET ACROSS. NO FIRE HYDRANTS.
A HOUSE CATCHES ON FIRE, FIRE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO COME OUT THERE, [NOISE] UNLOAD THEIR TRUCK AND ONCE THEY'RE DONE, THEY'RE DONE.
WE'VE SEEN HOUSES BE BURNED DOWN TO THE GROUND.
RIGHT NOW, ANNA HAS OVER 10,000 APARTMENT UNITS EITHER THAT ARE BUILT OR BEING BUILT OR PLANNED.
THAT'S ALMOST GOING TO DOUBLE THE POPULATION, JUST IN MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.
A LOT OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING ON THE EAST SIDE, EAST OF HURRICANE CREEK, EAST OF 75.
THERE NO WATER, AND SO BASICALLY ADDING ANOTHER 1,200 PEOPLE ON THAT FAR OF A SIDE, AWAY FROM ALL THE FACILITIES, WE'RE GOING TO BE RESTRICTED BY ROAD ACCESS, LIMITED WATER, NO SEWER, NO CITY SERVICES.
I KNOW MY TIME'S UP. BUT ONCE AGAIN, I DO OBJECT TO THIS IS I DO OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] LEDON WEBB. FOUR MORE AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK.
>> HELLO. HI, MY NAME IS LADONE WEBB.
I LIVE AT ONE 10422 COUNTY ROAD 288, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED PLAN.
WHEN WE MOVED TO ANNA IN 2017, WE THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING TO THE COUNTRY.
WE HAD SPENT THE LAST 15 YEARS IN NORTHWEST FRISCO, AND LIVED THROUGH THE PAIN OF THE EXPLOSION AND GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN FRISCO.
WE THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING AWAY FROM THAT.
WE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE CABIN ONLINE AND WHEN WE WENT OUT TO SEE IT, WE EVEN MORE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE AREA.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL, LOTS OF AGRICULTURE.
THE TWO CORNERSTONES OF THE AREA ARE THE LONE STAR DOG RANCH AND RESCUE.
GOING TO LOOK AT THE WORD, SORRY, I CAN'T SEE.
THE SPIRIT SONG YOUTH EQUESTRIAN CENTER, WHICH IS AN LLC, NONPROFIT THAT HELPS CHILDREN THAT NEED THEIR OWN HELP TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD.
THAT AREA WOULD BE BEST SERVED BY BEAUTIFUL BIG ESTATE LIVING AN ACRE, TWO ACRES, THREE ACRES OR MORE WITH HUGE MILLION DOLLAR HOMES.
PEOPLE WOULD BUY THEM, THEY BUY THEM EVERYWHERE.
THAT PLAN IS MOSTLY CONCRETE IN BUILDINGS.
WE WOULD HAVE FOUR THREE STORY BUILDINGS 30 FEET AWAY FROM OUR LITTLE TINY CABIN.
THE ROADS CANNOT HANDLE IT, EITHER 288 OR 455.
THEY ONLY HAVE GRASSY AREA BECAUSE IT'S A FLOOD ZONE THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN BUILD IN.
IT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED WHERE THE BRIDGE OVER THAT CREEK SHOULD GO.
WHY SHOULD THAT DEVELOPER GET TO CHOOSE WHERE? I AGREE WITH SEAN.
BY MY NUMBERS, THERE ARE 3,092 MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT UNITS THAT WILL BE BUILT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
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ACCORDING TO THE CHART, THERE WILL BE 10,123 MORE APARTMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.IT LOOKS LIKE A MONEY GRAB TO ME.
THE INVESTORS ARE TRYING TO GRAB THE MONEY, THE OWNERS ARE TRYING TO GRAB THE MONEY, THE DEVELOPERS ARE TRYING TO GRAB THE MONEY, THE CITY IS TRYING TO GRAB THE MONEY.
HOW MANY APARTMENTS DOES ANNA NEED? I VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE.
>> THANK YOU. ATTILA THEMIS BERRY.
I HOPE I DIDN'T BUTCHER THAT TOO BADLY.
I LIVE AT 9830 COUNTY ROAD, AND I ALSO OWN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY NEXT TO IT, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE AN ADDRESS.
I'M AGAINST THIS REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND REZONING FOR FOUR REASONS.
ONE, I MOVED FROM DALLAS WHEN A DEVELOPER BUILT MULTIFAMILY AROUND ME AND CRIME WENT UP.
I THEN MOVED TO FRISCO WHERE EVENTUALLY THE SAME THING HAPPENED.
WHEN I DECIDED TO MOVE TO ANNA, I WAS AWARE THAT MY PROPERTY WAS IN THE PATH OF PROGRESS.
I'M NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR ONE ACRE ESTATE LOTS IN THIS AREA, NOT MULTIFAMILY, NOT RETAIL, NOT SMALL RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND VISION FOR THE FUTURE, IF THE CITY IS GOING TO THROW IT OUT FOR A DEVELOPER WHO CLEARLY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S ATTEMPTING TO DESTROY.
SECOND POINT, THE PROPOSED REROUTING OF ROSEMOND PARKWAY TO THE SOUTH, AND LOOKING AT YOUR PLAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEING REROUTED TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LANDSCAPE, AND THE EXISTING WILDLIFE, ESPECIALLY ONE OF MY DEAR NEIGHBORS THAT WE ALL LOVE.
THIRD, THE DEVELOPER, CHUCK BRANCH, STATED IN AN INTERVIEW, I VOTED AGAINST APARTMENTS WHEN WE DIDN'T NEED THEM, AND VOTED AGAINST ALL OTHER KINDS OF HOUSING WHEN WE DIDN'T NEED THEM AND IT DOESN'T NEED THEM.
I'VE ALSO VOTED AGAINST APARTMENTS BECAUSE THEY CAN DRAIN RESOURCES FROM THE CITY.
THESE ARE HIS WORDS, THE DEVELOPER.
WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE APARTMENTS, WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE LOW INCOME HOUSING AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH LOW INCOME HOUSING.
MCKINNEY HAS ALREADY MADE UP 52% OF IT ALL IN THE WHOLE COUNTY.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO FOCUS ON AND MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE THE VALUES.
IF HE FEELS THIS WAY ABOUT MCKINNEY, WHY DOES THAT NOT APPLY TO ANNA? IF APARTMENTS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, THEN WHY DOES ANNA NEED THEM? IF ANNA REALLY NEEDS MORE APARTMENT UNITS, THEN THEY NEED TO STAY IN THE AREA THE CITY HAS ALREADY PLANNED.
IF THIS PROJECT IS PASSED, THIS WILL FORCE MY FAMILY TO SELL OUR LAND, MOVE OUR RANCH FURTHER OUT.
WE PLAN TO RAISE OUR FAMILY HERE AND BUILD OUR DREAM HOUSE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
IF THIS PASSES, THOSE DREAMS ARE GONE.
WE ONCE AGAIN HAVE TO MOVE TO AN AREA THAT BELIEVES IN THE VALUE OF RURAL LIVING.
I AGREE WITH THE CITY STAFF ASSESSMENT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT WHAT THIS PART OF ANNA NEEDS.
WOULD YOU ALL BE WILLING TO STAND FOR THE FUTURE OF ANNA THAT YOU ENVISION AND UPHOLD THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND VOTING FOR THE FELLOW ANNA [APPLAUSE]
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> JUST TO SPEED THIS UP, CAN YOU ALSO SAY WHO'S GOING TO BE NEXT AFTER HER, SO THEY CAN START WALKING.
>> ELIZABETH, BETTY SHARP WILL BE AFTER YOU.
>> MY NAME IS BENJAMIN WALKER.
I LIVE AT 301 NIAGARA FALLS DRIVE HERE IN ANNA.
I'M GOING TO BE AGAINST THIS ONE, AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'LL JUST PUT IT OUT THERE, I'M GOING TO BE AGAINST ANY MULTIFAMILY AT THIS POINT.
AS SOMEONE STATED, WE'VE GOT 10,000 COMING IN.
HERE'S THE PROBLEM. EVERY ONE OF THOSE IS ANOTHER CAR, MINIMUM.
EVERY ONE OF THOSE MIGHT POTENTIALLY BE 1, 2, 3 KIDS.
YOU KNOW THE NEW ELEMENTARY THAT JUST OPENED UP, YOU GUYS ALL AWARE THAT IT WAS OVERCAPACITY DAY ONE WHEN IT OPENED.
THAT'S WHAT OUR ISD IS STRUGGLING WITH,
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IS THE FACT THAT WHOEVER'S MAKING ALL THE DECISIONS IS NOT CONSIDERING THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC FLOW GETTING IN AND OUT OF SCHOOL TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP YOUR KIDS.THINGS LIKE HOW MANY KIDS IN A CLASSROOM, CAN WE KEEP TEACHERS WHEN THEY ARE FRUSTRATED? BECAUSE THERE IS 35 KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM AND THE KIDS DON'T LISTEN BECAUSE THERE'S 35 OF THEM AND IT'S MODURAL.
WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT EVEN THE CHILDREN ASPECT OF THIS, GUYS.
THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN HERE TODAY IS, I'VE GOT A NIECE AND NEPHEW OVER IN JKBI.
THAT'S WHERE MY KIDS WENT TO. THERE WE GO.
I'VE GOT A NEPHEW IN HARLOW AND THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT I CAN'T THINK OF RIGHT NOW THAT'S RIGHT BY WHAT YOU, MIGHT CALL CREEK, AND NOT HURRICANE. BRADLEY. THANK YOU.
I GOT A NIECE IN RETTON. I GOT A KID AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
I'VE GOT TWO AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
NOT SLATER CREEK, THE OTHER ONE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVED ABOUT ANNA IS WE USED TO BE A TOWN UNITED.
HOW MANY PEOPLE REMEMBER SHUTTING DOWN ROSEMOND? WE'D GO, WE ARE ANNA, AND WE'D ALL CHEER AND HAVE OUR HOMECOMING.
COOL. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NOW HAS TO HAVE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY KIDS HERE, SO THAT'S GONE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE UNITY OF ANNA AND HOW SPECIAL WE ARE, AND WE DON'T REALIZE THAT THIS MULTIFAMILY FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES IS DESTROYING US AS A TOWN.
I HAVE LIVED IN PLACES THAT DID NOT PLAN FOR THIS AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE NOT PLANNING FOR THIS.
I THINK YOU ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
I THINK OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR FIRE TEAMS DO A GREAT JOB.
BUT WE'VE GOT, AS THE SON OF A FATALITY TRAFFIC INVESTIGATOR, I DON'T NEED ANY MORE FATAL ACCIDENTS ON ANNA.
I DON'T NEED IT TO BE ONE OF MY KIDS OR ONE OF YOUR KIDS OR THEIR KIDS, BECAUSE THAT'S UNFORTUNATE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PLANNING CORRECTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
IF WE WANT TO GROW THIS PLACE, HAVE COMMERCIAL, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, THINK ABOUT THE SINGLE FAMILY, THE ONE ACRE LOTS, ALL GREAT IDEAS, MULTIFAMILY, I THINK WE NEED TO BE ON RECORD THAT ANNA IS CLOSED TO MULTIFAMILY.
IT'S A PERMANENT MORATORIUM. WE'RE DONE WITH IT.
>> THANK YOU. ELIZABETH SHARP IS NEXT, AND THEN WE HAD A LAST ONE COME IN, TRAVIS EDEN.
>> OUT OF THE OLD BAT ON THE SOUTH PERIMETER OF LOLKINSON AND BRANCHES, PROPOSED LOLKINSON CROSSING.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THEY DID TO ME.
I DON'T THINK I NEED THE MICROPHONE MISS MAGGY.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME.
I'M THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT LOGAN FIN AND BRANCH DECIDED ROSAMOND PARKWAY COULD BE FLIPPED ONTO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THEIR PROFIT.
THEY PROPOSE WITH THIS PARKWAY, AND FORGIVE ME, I'M NOT LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES BECAUSE I'M PROTECTING MY HOME OF 31 YEARS.
LOGAN FIN AND BRANCH HAVE UNLIMITED TIME, AND THEY TABLED THIS SO THEY COULD PLAY ME, HEAR THE COMMENTS AND COME AFTER ME AGAIN.
THEY FLIPPED ROSAMOND PARKWAY ONTO MY PROPERTY FOR THEIR PROFIT AND NOTHING ELSE.
YOU HAVE THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
THEY'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE MORE THAN A THIRD OF MY FIVE ACRES, BULLDOZE DOWN MY TREES, ELIMINATE MY DRIVEWAY TO 288, BULLDOZE DOWN MY BARN, AND PUT MY HOME WITHIN TWO FEET OF A ROAD.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO STOP THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE PLAN THEY'VE SUBMITTED TO YOU.
I THINK IT'S BUFFOONERY AND CHICANERY BECAUSE WHAT THEY REALLY WANT IS TO GET YOU TO REZONE OUR GEM OF A SINGLE FAMILY RURAL AREA TO APARTMENTS THAT ARE UNNECESSARY, NOT NEEDED, AND WILL INDEED, IN BRANCH'S OWN WORDS, DRAIN THE CITY'S RESOURCES LIKE HECK.
YOU WILL BE DESTROYING WHAT COULD BE A GEM.
URBAN CROSSING, COUNTY ROAD 368, OLD HURRICANE CREEK ESTATES ON TWO OR THREE ACRES.
COME OUT, I'LL GIVE YOU A TOUR.
SPIRIT SONG EQUESTRIAN, LONE STAR DOG RANCH.
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BEAUTIFUL PLACES HAVE REMAINED AN ECONOMIC STABLE BASE THROUGH RECESSIONS, DOWNTURNS.I WAS. YOU KNOW WHAT? THOSE AREAS, MY AREA, THERE WEREN'T A RUSH OF FORECLOSURES AND BANKRUPTCIES, THEY PROVIDED A STABLE BASE.
YOUR JOB IS TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE THOUSANDS MOVING INTO THIS CITY.
LET ME TELL YOU WHO SOME OF THOSE THOUSANDS ARE GOING TO BE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE THOSE PROFESSIONALS WORKING AT THOSE CHIP PLANTS AND THOSE AI PLANTS 10 MILES UP, 75 AND 5.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOCTORS AND HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS WORKING AT THE MASSIVE HOSPITALS BEING BUILT, ONE 12 MILES FROM US.
THEY WANT RESIDENCES TO LIVE IN.
THEY DON'T NEED MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS NEXT TO ME.
YOU COME OUT AND VISIT ME, LET ME SHOW YOU COPART HEADQUARTERS ON BORLAN ROAD, A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS OF SUCH ASTOUNDING BEAUTY YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT. THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
BRANCH AND LOGAN FIN YOU JUST PLAYED ME, I KNOW IT.
THEY WANT TO TAKE MY PROPERTY FOR GREED, RUIN THE ENTIRE AREA AND LEAVE.
THEY LIVE ON COUNTRY CLUB ROAD, I THINK.
I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH I RESENT THEM AND I NEVER EVEN MET THEM, AND THEY WANT TO TAKE MY PROPERTY.
>> TRAVIS EDEN. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> MY NAME IS TRAVIS EDEN. I LIVE AT 10030 COUNTY ROAD 288.
OWNER OPERATOR OF THE LONE STAR DOG BRANCH.
OBVIOUSLY VOICING TO OPPOSE AS WELL WITH MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS.
WHEN WE MOVED TO ANNA IN 2007, SPECIFICALLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF ANNA, WE CHOSE THAT AREA BECAUSE LARGE ESTATES, SINGLE FAMILY AREA, NO COMMERCIAL.
ONE OF THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS PEOPLE ASK ME IS, HOW DO I GET 100 DOGS TO BE IN A YARD ALTOGETHER, ALL THROUGHOUT THE DAY? ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE I'M IN A QUIET COUNTRY SETTING.
IF I HAVE EVERYTHING ALL AROUND ME, LIKE OTHER PLACES, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AND DO THE WORK THAT WE DO THERE.
ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, INFRASTRUCTURE WISE ON THOSE ROADS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE FEASIBLE UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A HUGE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY TO REBUILD A ROAD DOUBLE THE SIZE BECAUSE I JUST FRANKLY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
BUT I JUST WANT TO AGREE WITH MY NEIGHBORS HERE AND VOICE THE SENTIMENT THAT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THIS.
IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE FEASIBLE FOR WHERE WE LIVE, AND WHERE WE CHOSE TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN ANNA IN 2007.
I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.
>> ITEM 16, THEY REQUESTED TO TABLE.
>> I GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> MYSELF. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
ITEM NUMBER 17, CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE LOGAN CROSSING CONCEPT PLAN [INAUDIBLE] LOGAN AND A HOLDING LLC.
THIS WAS CONTINGENT ON ITEM NUMBER 16 THEY REQUESTED TO TABLE.
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> MYSELF. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS.
>> YEAH, WE'LL BE BACK AT 07:30.
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WE ARE BACK.IT IS 07:33 P.M. WE WILL NOW HEAR ITEM NUMBER 14.
CONSIDER, DISCUSS ACTION ON A REQUEST TO ANNEX AND ZONE 11.2 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES AND REZONE 34.7 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES FOR MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST CORNERS OF EAST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD AND FUTURE SOUTH FERGUSON PARKWAY.
APPLICANT JOAN LESLIE LASCCOMB AND SAMUEL ADAM STEVENSON.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 07:34.
>> THESE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED ON EAST FOSTER CROSSING.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AND THE OTHER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE ETJ.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO FOUR STRAIGHT ZONINGS, MULTIFAMILY BEING THE MAJOR COMPONENT.
SF-20 FOR WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING AS A DOG PARK, C-1 FOR THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, AND AGRICULTURAL FOR THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS INTERSECTION AS SUBURBAN LIVING AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
MULTIFAMILY AND AGRICULTURE ARE NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SF-20 AND THE C-1 ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHEN IT COMES TO ANNEXATION OF EXISTING USES, WE GENERALLY RECOMMEND THAT THEY TRY TO STICK WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS MOST EQUIVALENT TO WHAT THE USES ARE.
IN THIS CASE, THERE IS A FARM AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY AND A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THEREFORE, AGRICULTURE DOES MAKE SENSE IN THIS CASE, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ON THEIR CONCEPT PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH A TOWNHOME UNIT STYLE UNITS, AS WELL AS THE MULTI-STORY APARTMENTS.
WE RECEIVED 20 LETTERS IN OPPOSITION, WITH THIS BEING A STRAIGHT ZONING REQUEST.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHALL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, DENY, OR APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, AND THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION.
>> DO COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BRYAN GRANT.
NO, SORRY. WE JUST MOVED TO OFFICES A FEW WEEKS AGO.
9001 CYPRESS WATERS BOULEVARD IN IRVING, TEXAS.
I BEGIN WITH JPI, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT A PACKED HOUSE.
I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT HERE TO CHEER ME ON.
I'LL TRY TO GO QUICKLY AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
WE'RE NOT HERE ALL NIGHT LONG AS WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID, WE ALL THINK WE'D ALL BE RATHER AT HOME DRINKING A BEER AND BEING WITH OUR FAMILIES.
BUT WANT TO GO THROUGH WHO JPI IS, WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED HERE, HIT ON THE DESIGN, AND TALK YOU THROUGH THE THOUGHT PROCESS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT AND TIME THAT WENT INTO THIS DESIGN PROCESS, AND SO WE WANT TO TALK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT. FIRST OFF WITH JPI.
WE'RE LOCAL COMPANY HEADQUARTERED HERE IN DFW.
WE'VE BEEN THE MOST ACTIVE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER IN DFW FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS IN A ROW.
VERY PROUD OF THAT. WE'RE VERY ACTIVE IN THE GROWTH OF DFW.
EVERYBODY KNOWS, EVERYONE'S TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT.
DFW IS GROWING, COLLIN COUNTY IS GROWING, AND ANNA IS DEFINITELY GROWING.
WE'RE ALREADY A PART OF THAT GROWTH.
ONE'S OPEN IN THE TOWN CENTER.
IT'S A 55 PLUS DEAL CALLED PARMORE ANNA, AND THEN WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON ONE AND ALONG WHITE STREET AS WELL.
IN ANNA, TODAY I'VE ENJOYED THE PARTNERSHIP WITH ANNA THIS FAR.
THIS SLIDE FOCUSES ON JUST WHO JPI IS.
WE'RE A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED COMPANY.
WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S IN JPI THAT'S INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS ALL THE WAY FROM BEGINNING TO END.
FROM TIME WE FIND A SITE THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, THROUGH THE CAPITAL RAISE, THROUGH ACTUALLY BUILDING THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SIDE OF IT AS WELL.
SOMEBODY AT JPI IS INVOLVED FROM BEGINNING TO END TO ENSURE THAT IT'S A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY AT THE END OF THE DAY.
SHOWING SOME PICTURES NOW OF WHAT WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE BEING HERE.
THIS IS SOME EXTERIOR PICTURES.
THERE'S IRVING FARMERS BRANCH AND GRAPEVINE.
THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT, ALTHOUGH UNIQUE IN THEIR OWN WAY, BUT A LOT OF HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS.
THESE ARE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED HERE, BUT GIVE YOU A SENSE FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE BUILT WITHIN THE AREA.
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ON THE INSIDE, A LOT OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL.WE TRY TO BUILD REALLY NICE PROPERTIES.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CLUBHOUSE.
YOU WALK IN, DOUBLE VOLUME, LOTS OF NATURAL LIGHT COMING IN, CUSTOM FURNITURE.
WE HIRED THESE INTERIOR DESIGNERS TO PUT A LOT OF EFFORT AND DETAIL INTO DESIGNING THESE SPACES.
HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A DIFFERENT CLUBHOUSE.
YOU CAN SEE THE MILLWORK GOING UP AND ACROSS THE CEILING AND THE GLASS WALLS THERE AS WELL.
BUSINESS CENTERS, FITNESS CENTERS AS WELL, JUST ALL THE AMENITIES ARE THERE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
THIS IS OUR MOST RECENT OPENING. THIS IS IN HALTOM CITY.
BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A STANDALONE CLUBHOUSE, VAULTED CEILINGS, BIG OPEN SPACE.
RESIDENTS CAN RENT THIS SPACE OUT.
MARCH MADNESS IS COMING UP, SO WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF MARCH MADNESS PARTIES IN THE CLUBHOUSES AS WELL.
THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO GATHER AND BUILD A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND SENSE OF PLACE. THIS IS A MAILROOM.
EVEN THE MAILROOM GETS A NICE TOUCH.
NOT A ROOM THAT YOU WOULD THINK IS VERY FANCILY DESIGNED.
THAT'S NOT REALLY A WORD TO THINK, BUT THIS IS ONE THAT WE PUT UP INTO THE MAILROOM, JUST HIGHLIGHTING THAT.
AGAIN, IT'S UNIQUE, UNIQUE SHAPE.
THERE'S LOUNGES IN THE WATER OUTSIDE.
THERE'D BE OUTDOOR TVS, GRILLS, CORNHOLE, DIFFERENT AREAS FOR RESIDENTS TO GATHER.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A FITNESS CENTER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, BUT PEOPLE DO.
I THINK THERE'S GOT STUFF FOR CROSS FITTERS.
YOU'VE GOT FREE WEIGHTS, ROWING MACHINES, PELOTONS, THOSE DOORS IN THE BACK WALL THERE ARE GARAGE DOORS THAT CAN OPEN UP AND YOU CAN WORK OUT OUTSIDE ON DAYS LIKE TODAY WHERE IT'S 80, 70 DEGREES, YOU CAN ENJOY BEING OUTSIDE AS WELL.
MOVING INTO THE UNITS THEMSELVES.
WE HAVE A SET OF STANDARDS WE ADHERE TO.
SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES THAT WE'LL ALWAYS INCLUDE ARE STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCE PACKAGE, HARD SURFACE FLOORING, STONE COUNTERTOPS, TILE, BACKSPLASHES, UNDER CABINET LIGHTING.
WE'LL USE GLASS-ENCLOSED SHOWERS.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT SCHEME, SO WE'LL ALWAYS DO A COUPLE SCHEMES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY DEPENDING ON YOUR PREFERENCE OF WHAT STYLE YOU'RE GOING FOR.
WE'LL DO SOME BUILT-IN DESKS AS WELL.
IT'S BECOMING MORE POPULAR AS THE HYBRID WORK FROM HOME SCHEDULES HAVE BECOME MORE POPULAR.
PROVIDING A PLACE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO WORK WHERE THEY'RE LIVING.
LOOKING AT THE SITE ITSELF, AND LAUREN HIT ON THIS.
BUT HERE, THIS IS OUTLINING THE SITE.
YOU CAN SEE ITS PROXIMITY TO THE OUTER LOOP, AND 75, AGAIN ON THE EAST SIDE OF 75, NORTH OF THE LOOP.
THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES FOR ANNA, 75 HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE.
THE OUTER LOOP WILL BE AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW.
AS YOU KNOW, IT CURRENTLY CONNECTS 75 TO 121.
IN THE FUTURE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE WEST TOWARDS PROSPER, CELINA, LITTLE ELM.
THE OUTER LOOP WILL CONTINUE AND THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FOR THE NORTHERN AREAS OF COLLIN COUNTY.
WE'RE UNIQUELY LOCATED TO BE CLOSE TO BOTH OF THOSE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
WE'RE NOT ON THE HARD CORNER OF 75 OUTER LOOP.
WITH THAT DESIGN, YOU'VE GOT TO DESIGN IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
WE'RE NOT PUTTING FOUR-STORY PRODUCT AND REALLY SUPER DENSE PRODUCT THERE.
THIS ONE IS A DIFFERENT DESIGN BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO SURROUNDING A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT AND AT PECAN GROVE.
WE'RE AWARE OF THAT. WE ARE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT.
WE TRIED MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AT HARLOW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS THERE, AND TRIED TO HAVE AN OPEN DIALOGUE WITH THEM, TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE DESIGN, WHICH YOU'LL SEE.
HERE, THE 2050 PLAN, LAUREN HIT ON THAT AS WELL.
THIS IS NOT TECHNICALLY IN COMPLIANCE.
WE THINK IT'S CLOSE THAT SUBURBAN LIVING WITH WHAT'S PLANNED FOR FIVE AND THE OUTER LOOP, THE BUSINESS CENTER, PROFESSIONAL CAMPUS TO GET THOSE JOBS THERE.
WE VIEW THIS AS A TRANSITION FROM HEAVY, COMMERCIAL, HEAVY JOBS TO THIS RENTAL TYPE HOUSING TO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.
IN PECAN GROVE THERE ARE RENTERS THERE TODAY, I THINK OVER 10% OF THE RESIDENTS OF PECAN GROVE ARE RENTERS, WHICH SHOWS THAT THERE'S A DESIRE THAT RENTERS WANT TO BE IN THIS AREA.
THIS PROVIDES ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR RENTERS TO BE IN THIS AREA.
FERGUSON PARKWAY IS PART OF THIS PLAN AS WELL.
THAT THOROUGHFARE WILL BE EXTENDED.
THERE'S PLANS ALREADY THAT I KNOW THE CITY STAFF CAN SPEAK TO A LOT BETTER THAN I CAN ON WHERE THAT STANDS TODAY.
THE RED LINE THAT YOU SEE IS THE CURRENT PLANNED ALIGNMENT FOR FERGUSON PARKWAY.
OBVIOUSLY, IT IS BENDING TO THE WEST.
IT GETS REALLY CLOSE TO CLIPPING THAT PORTION OF PECAN GROVE.
AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT IT WOULD BE STRAIGHTENED OUT MORE NORTH-SOUTH FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE.
OUR ENGINEERS HERE CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER THAN I CAN.
BUT IT IS MORE OF A LOGICAL ROUTE FOR FERGUSON PARKWAY WITH THE WAY THE TOPOGRAPHY GOES AND THE TIE INTO THE OUTER LOOP.
ALSO WE THINK IT'S BETTER FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PECAN GROVE BECAUSE IT'S FURTHER AWAY FROM WHERE THEY ARE LIVING TODAY.
PART OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION OF FERGUSON PARKWAY THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING
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MONEY TOWARDS THAT AS WELL AS FOSTER CROSSING ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE THERE.HERE'S OUR SITE PLAN. AS MENTIONED, WE'RE AT FOSTER CROSSING IN THE TO BE BUILT, FERGUSON PARKWAY.
PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, AGAIN, IS DEVELOPING THOSE TWO ROADS AND PUTTING MONEY IN TOWARDS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT ARE THERE TODAY.
WE KNOW THAT THE PECAN GROVE WEST RESIDENTS ARE ALL EXITING PECAN GROVE DRIVE, WHICH IS JUST OFF THIS MAP, BUT THAT'S THE SINGLE POINT OF ACCESS INTO THEIR SUBDIVISION TODAY, OFF OF FOSTER CROSSING, WE WOULD BE EXTENDING BURL TO THE TO BE BUILT, FERGUSON PARKWAY.
THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE A SECONDARY POINT TO EXIT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, GET TO FERGUSON PARKWAY AND GET DOWN TO FOSTER CROSSING IN ONE DAY DOWN TO THE LOOP.
IT'S PROVIDING ANOTHER ACCESS POINT FOR THOSE NEIGHBORS.
YOU DO SEE CONNECTIONS AT FLOWER LANE AND WHAT I BELIEVE IS LUSCOMBE WAY ON THE WEST SIDE.
THOSE ARE EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY CONNECTIONS.
THOSE WILL BE GATED AT ALL TIMES WITH KNOCK BOX FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR PURELY EMERGENCY INSTANCES ONLY.
HOPEFULLY THEY ARE NEVER USED.
THAT FLOWER LANE STUB OUT EXISTS TODAY.
STAFF, WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM AND THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS IF SOME OF THE INTERESTS HAPPEN TO BE BLOCKED, BUT THOSE WILL NOT BE USED BY THE RESIDENTS, OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE USING THE FOSTER CROSSING ENTRANCE AND THEN THE ONE THAT WOULD BE GOING TO BURL ON THE NORTHEAST THERE.
YOU SEE THE BIG GREEN PATCH OF LAND ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, THAT IS LAND THAT WE CONTROL.
LAUREN MENTIONED WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN TODAY AS A DOG PARK.
WE'RE OPEN TO IDEAS FOR WHAT THAT COULD BE, AND MENTIONED THAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, WHAT THOUGHTS WE'VE HAD, WE'RE JUST AN OPEN SPACE DOG PARK, MAYBE SOME PICKLEBALL COURTS.
EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE FALLING IN LOVE WITH PICKLEBALL.
THAT COULD BE AN OPTION, BUT A SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PECAN GROVE, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY TO HAVE SOME OPEN SPACE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMON AREA OPEN SPACE.
THIS COULD BE A SPACE FOR THAT.
JUST THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, AGAIN, I THINK STANDS OUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF GREEN IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, IN THE MIDDLE, ON THE SOUTH EDGE.
WITH THE SITE THIS SIZE, IF YOU WERE TO GIVE IT TO AN ARCHITECT AND SAY, HERE'S A 29-30 ACRE PIECE OF LAND, DESIGN A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, THEY COULD EASILY FIT 1,000 UNITS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. WE'VE GOT ABOUT 460 UNITS HERE ON THIS PROPERTY.
A LOT OF THEM ARE TWO-STORY TOWN HOMES IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, SMALLER BUILDINGS ARE ALL TWO-STORY TOWN HOMES.
THOUGHT BEING THAT THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN HAVING A TWO-STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BEHIND YOU IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT.
WE UNDERSTAND THE PRIVACY CONCERNS AND PEOPLE LOOKING AT THEIR BACKYARDS.
WE'VE PUT THE ONLY BUILDINGS THAT ARE TRULY ABUTTING THE SINGLE FAMILY FOLKS OR TOWN HOMES, AND THEN THE THREE-STORY BUILDINGS, ALL THREE STORY BUILDINGS, THE REST OF THEM ARE ALL AT LEAST 200 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEAREST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
WE'VE PUSHED ALL THE TALLER BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH, TO THE EAST, AWAY FROM THE END RESIDENTS.
WE'VE BUILT A LESS DENSE UNITS PER ACRE PROJECT AS WELL.
BY PROVIDING THOSE BUFFERS AND AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE, IT COULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ALSO TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS ON THE WEST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.
DOES THE LASER POINTER WORK? WHEREAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY BETWEEN US AND PECAN GROVE ON THE WEST, IT'S A SHARK FIN SHAPE.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THOSE LANDOWNERS, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO BUY THAT PROPERTY AS WELL, NOT PUT ANYTHING ON IT AND SIMILAR TO THE DOG PARK, IT WOULD BE LEFT OPEN, SERVE AS A BUFFER, BUT MORE OF A GUARANTEE TO THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT, THAT BUFFER IS GOING TO REMAIN AND IT WON'T BE DEVELOPED AS MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR SOMETHING ELSE DOWN THE LINE.
PART OF OUR ZONING IS ALSO THE COMMERCIAL PIECE ON THE EAST SIDE OF FERGUSON AND PART OF THAT IS BEING ANNEXED IN AS WELL.
THIS IS JUST A CONCEPTUAL RENDERING OF WHAT THAT COULD BE.
THIS IS SHOWING SOME RESTAURANTS, A COUPLE OF STRIP CENTERS.
BUT OPEN TO WHAT THAT COULD BE, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE ZONED IN AS COMMERCIAL.
OUR RETAIL PARTNERS, WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM, THEY WANT TO SEE HEADS ON BEDS IS WHAT THEY SAY.
THEY WANT TO SEE PEOPLE LIVING THERE BEFORE THEY START BUILDING THEIR COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR CUSTOMER BASE CLOSE BY AND EXISTING TODAY.
IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, WE'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER CITIES, THE MULTIFAMILY HAS GONE FIRST AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL HAS FOLLOWED ONCE THOSE RESIDENTS ARE THERE AND THEN THEY HAVE THEIR BUILT-IN RESIDENT BASE RIGHT THERE AS WELL.
LOOKING AT THE SPACING, IT'S SHOWING THE DISTANCE, I HIT ON THIS EARLIER, BUT SHOWS THE DISTANCE FROM OUR BUILDINGS TO THE CLOSEST SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE 67 FEET IS THE CLOSEST.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE TWO-STORY TOWNHOME PRODUCT.
THE AVERAGE BACK YARD DEPTH IN PECAN GROVE IS 20-25 FEET.
IF YOU ASSUME THAT BACK-TO-BACK, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT A 50 FOOT GAP, 40-50 FOOT GAP,
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AND WE'RE GREATER THAN THAT AT 67 AND THE THREE STORY BUILDINGS ARE ALL 200 FEET PLUS IN TERMS OF DISTANCE FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY.THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE RESIDENTS PEERING INTO YOUR BACKYARD AND SPYING ON YOU OR ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS WHICH WE HEAR.
WE'VE STUDIED THE SIGHT LINES, WE'VE PUSHED THE BUILDINGS FURTHER AWAY TO HELP ALLEVIATE THAT CONCERN FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.
THIS JUST HITS ON THE POINTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
AGAIN, THE OPEN SPACE DOG PARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, THIS IS MORE OPEN SPACE THAN IF IT WAS DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK ALL OF THE GREEN THAT YOU SAW THERE, IF IT WAS MAXED OUT AS A SINGLE FAMILY OR SOMETHING ELSE, THAT OPEN SPACE WOULD NOT EXIST.
WE'LL BE UPGRADING FOSTER CROSSING WITH SIDEWALKS, PAVING IT.
IT'S AN ASPHALT ROAD TODAY IN FRONT OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AS WELL AS FERGUSON PARKWAY, WE'LL BE CONSTRUCTING THAT AS WELL IN FRONT OF OUR SITE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT SIGHT LINE STUDIES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RESPECTING THAT FROM A NEIGHBOR STANDPOINT.
THEN AGAIN, ANNEXING MORE LAND INTO THE CITY FOR THAT COMMERCIAL USE.
RENDERINGS, SO THIS IS AN EARLY ON CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S A TAKE ON A MODERN FARMHOUSE.
THE BLACK BRICK ON THE CORNERS, THE BRICK ON THE BASE AS WELL AND YOU CAN SEE BRICK POPPING UP ALONG THE ELEVATIONS WITH SOME BOARD AND BATTEN ACCENTS AND SOME WOOD TONE SIDING.
IT'S FIBER CEMENT SIDING, SO IT LASTS LONGER THAN TRUE WOOD, WHICH WOULD ROT.
IT'S MADE TO LOOK LIKE WOOD AND I THINK IT MAKES FOR A SHARP LOOKING EXTERIOR FOR THE THREE-STORY BUILDINGS.
THEN THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE TWO-STORY BUILDINGS IN THAT NORTHWEST CORNER.
ONE THING TO NOTE HERE AS WELL IS THERE ARE NO BALCONIES ON THESE BUILDINGS.
STRIPPED OFF ALL THE BALCONIES ON THE BACK SIDE, THERE'S NO ONE STANDING OUTSIDE.
WE THINK WE'RE ALREADY FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THOSE SINGLE FAMILY FOLKS ANYWAYS, BUT JUST BELT AND SUSPENDERS THING, PUTTING, TAKING THE BALCONIES OFF OF THOSE AS WELL.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD LOOKING RENDERING.
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF RENDERING OF WHAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR THERE'S A TEAM FROM CRAIG INTERNATIONAL.
IF YOU'VE HEARD OF CRAIG RANCH, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US ON THIS DESIGN AS WELL.
THEY'RE HERE, SOME OF THEIR JPIERS, THE ENGINEER TEAM FROM KIMLEY-HORN.
WE'VE GOT SEVERAL FOLKS HERE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M HERE OBVIOUSLY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT WE'VE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT IN EFFORT IN THIS DESIGN.
I'VE TRIED MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL ABOUT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PLAN, WHAT COULD BE DONE AND WE'RE OPEN TO THAT AS WELL.
BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
>> I DO, MAYBE FOR YOUR ENGINEER.
WHAT'S THE ISSUE WITH THE CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY FOR FERGUSON PARKWAY RIGHT NOW?
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH IT TODAY.
I THINK THE WAY THAT TOPOGRAPHY IS AND THEN, CHRIS, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT'S HEADING TOWARDS THE VERY TOP OF FROM A TOPOGRAPHY STANDPOINT TOWARDS THE OUTER LOOP AND MOVING IT FURTHER TO THE EAST FLATTENS IT OUT SOME AND MAKES IT FOR AN EASIER CONNECTION TO THE LOOP.
I KNOW THERE ARE OTHERS HERE THAT IN YOUR STAFF MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT BETTER.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS DEVELOPER GUY.
>> CAN YOU TURN BACK TO THE SLIDE?
>> THE FERGUSON PARKWAY SLIDE?
>> IT'S NOT GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE LOOP? I'M ASKING, IS THAT CORRECT? YOU JUST SAID IT WAS GOING TO THE LOOP, I DON'T SEE THAT ON HERE.
>> THIS IS JUST DEPICTING WHAT'S IN FRONT OF OUR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE CITY PLAN WAS FOR IT TO COME START EVEN FURTHER NORTH AND GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TO FOSTER CROSSING.
>> YES, IT IS GOING. IS IT ALL LOOPED?
>> Y'ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PARK?.
>> WE WOULD BE STOPPING AT FOSTER CROSSING. CORRECT.
>> IS THERE GOING TO BE, A GAP BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION, ANY OTHER ISSUE WITH THAT ROAD, WITH THE PLANS GOING SOUTH?
>> I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE CITY.
IF THEY MOVE THAT OVER TO THE EAST, IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT ANYTHING?
>> COMMISSIONER BLANSCET, I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.
THE CITY HAS AN ACTIVE PROJECT WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND TXDOT IS INVOLVED AS WELL FOR THE OVERALL DESIGN AND FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS ROADWAY, ALL THE WAY FROM TAYLOR BOULEVARD OR JUST NORTH OF TAYLOR, TO THE NORTH TO THE COLLIN COUNTY OUTER LOOP.
BUT THAT'S A STANDALONE ROADWAY PROJECT.
WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS JUST A ZONING CASE ON A SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS, IS THAT IF THEIR ZONING WAS APPROVED, THEY'RE OPEN TO BUILDING THE ROAD ACROSS THEIR SECTION OF PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS TO CHANGE THE ALIGNMENT OF HOW IT GOES ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY.
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>> THAT WOULD WORK WITH Y'ALL. IT WAS APPROVED, IT WOULD WORK WITH Y'ALL'S PLAN?
>> IF IT WAS APPROVED, WE WOULD WE WOULD ADOPT WHATEVER IS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL INTO OUR PROJECT BECAUSE IF COUNCIL WERE TO APPROVE IT, THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD ADOPT IT ACCORDINGLY.
>> DOES MOVING THE ROADWAY HELP YOU GUYS WITH YOUR PROPOSED DETENTION AREA? DID IT HELP YOU ALLEVIATE THAT DETENTION AMOUNT THAT YOU HAVE TO CARRY? BECAUSE I SEE YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED DETENTION AREA, I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S A FLOODPLAIN AREA.
>> CORRECT. THAT CURRENT DETENTION AREA, THERE'S A EXISTING CULVERT CROSSING UNDER WEST FOSTER CROSSING, THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED DETENTION AREA.
>> BUT BY SHIFTING THE ROADWAY, WERE YOU ABLE TO MINIMIZE THE DETENTION AREA WITH THE ROADWAY SHIFTING OR DID THAT NOT REALLY AFFECT IT AT ALL?
>> IT DIDN'T REALLY AFFECT IT AT ALL.
THAT'S THE BOTTOM OF THE BASIN OF THE HILL OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER AND THEN EAST TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AS WELL DURING WEST OF THAT AREA, SO THAT SHAPE WORKED IN THAT AREA.
>> HOW'S THE FLOODPLAIN STUDY THAT Y'ALL ARE WORKING WITH IN THAT AREA?
>> THERE'S NO FLOODPLAIN IN THIS AREA.
THE FLOODPLAIN IS SOUTH OF WEST FOSTER CROSSING.
WE HAVE 11 SPEAKERS ON ITEM NUMBER 14.
[LAUGHTER] FIRST UP WILL BE JIM LUSCOMB.
THEN WE'LL HAVE GRETCHEN STEWART, DEVIN LONNEL, ELISE WILLIAMS, RODNEY WILLIAMS, AARON THOMPSON, MANI SINGH, KEVIN SOUSSIE, ROBERT DRENNAN, EDWARD CULLUM, AND BENJAMIN WALKER.
IN THAT ORDER, YOU EACH HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD.
>> I'M JIM LUSCOMB. I LIVE AT 1303 WEST FOSTER CROSSING.
I KNOW LAUREN, THAT YOU'VE LABELED IT AS EAST FOSTER CROSS AND IT'S ACTUALLY WEST FOSTER CROSS.
I CAME TO YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO AND DOUGLAS, YOU ASKED ABOUT THIS ROAD AND CHANGING THE EXTENSION.
THE REST OF FOLKS ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY AND PRIVACY AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT I WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS FERGUSON ALIGNMENT.
IN YOUR PACKET, AND I THINK I MAY HAVE PULLED IT OUT FOR YOU.
THERE IS THE EXISTING CURRENT ALIGNMENT AND IT DOES SHOW GOING ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO THE OUTER LOOP.
THAT ALIGNMENT CAME ABOUT WITH ENGINEERS FROM THE COUNTY, ENGINEERS FROM THE CITY, CITY COUNCIL, ALL OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS AT THAT TIME.
EVERYBODY GOT ON BOARD, THEY GOT IT APPROVED, THEY GOT IT AGREED TO.
WE WERE OKAY WITH THE SAFETY ISSUES.
IN PARTICULAR, IF YOU WILL NOTICE HOW FAR IT GOES ON DOWN SOUTH TOWARDS MELISSA.
IT EXITS AND HITS THE OUTER LOOP RIGHT ON A DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER'S PROPERTY AND SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
IF YOU CHANGE THAT ALIGNMENT TO THE EAST, YOU'RE GOING TO WIND UP SPLITTING THAT PROPERTY AS YOU COME OUT THERE.
AND IF YOU CAN SEE THE TOPO ON THERE TOO, BE IT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE HILL OR THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HILL, IF YOU CHANGE THE ALIGNMENT TO THE EAST, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ON THE DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE HILL.
I BEG TO DIFFER WITH THE ENGINEERS ASSESSMENT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH IMPACT, BUT THE IMPACT IT HAS TO US, AS YOU LOOK ON HERE, THAT GREEN SPOT IS OUR PECAN ORCHARD.
WE'VE GOT 500 TREES DOWN THERE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THAT AS WE CAN.
IF WE MOVE THE [INAUDIBLE] TO THE EAST, THAT'S GOING TO CUT US OFF COMPLETELY FROM THE ORCHARD.
FOUR LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY WITH ALL THAT TRAFFIC GOING ACROSS.
I'M GOING TO TAKE MY OLD SLOW JOHN DOWN THERE TRYING TO PULL THAT EQUIPMENT, AND IT MAY JUST BE MORE THAN WE CAN ACCEPT OR BEAR TO BE SAFE AND KEEP THAT GOING.
WE'RE GOING TO ASK TWO THINGS OF YOU.
THESE OTHER FOLKS ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MULTI-FAMILY AND WE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT, I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT MY ASK IS LET'S PLEASE STAY WITH THE ALIGNMENT ON FERGUSON THAT WE HAVE, THERE BY AS AGREED TO, BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2018.
I'VE GOT SEVERAL FOLKS HERE THAT WERE PART OF PUTTING THAT AGREEMENT TOGETHER AND I'LL ASK YOU TO KEEP THAT IN PLACE.
I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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GRETCHEN STEWART.>> WE THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO SIT.
>> I'M GRETCHEN STEWART AT 1013 [INAUDIBLE] I'M GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
I WANT TO ASK ALL MY NEIGHBORS HERE REAL FAST.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE MOVED TO THE [INAUDIBLE] RAISE YOUR HAND.
HOW MANY OF YOU CAME BECAUSE IT WAS SECLUDED.
HOW MANY OF YOU MOVED AWAY BECAUSE YOU'RE TIRED OF ALL THE OTHER [INAUDIBLE] YOU ALL HAVE MY PACKET.
IF YOU DON'T MIND PULLING IT OUT.
WHEN WE FOUND OUT, NOVEMBER 9TH, THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING, WE GOT RIGHT INTO ACTION.
WITHIN THREE HOURS WE HAD A PETITION OUT.
>> HAS A G ON IT. ANYWAY, WE HAD A PETITION OUT WITHIN THREE HOURS.
WE NOW HAVE 641 SIGNATURES ON THAT PETITION.
I'M GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DON'T LIKE THIS.
TRAFFIC. YOU'LL SEE THE PICTURE, IT'S GOT THE REARVIEW MIRROR ON IT.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO 450 APARTMENTS.
THAT'S 1.8 CARS PER UNIT, AN ADDITIONAL 810 CARS ON THE ROAD DAILY.
IF YOU LOOK, THIS IS US LEAVING FOSTER'S CROSSING ONTO COLLIN COUNTY OUTER LOOP.
YOU CAN SEE THE LINE FROM FOSTER'S CROSSING.
THE NEXT PICTURE YOU ALL WERE JUST LOOKING AT, THAT'S COLLIN COUNTY OUTER LOOP.
WE BACK UP FROM COLLIN COUNTY OUTER LOOP AT 75 ALL THE WAY TO HIGHWAY 5, AND THAT IS FROM 06:40 IN THE MORNING TILL ABOUT 08:30, FROM 06:40 TO 08:30.
THAT'S TWO MILES I HAVE IT WRITTEN ON THERE.
IT'S TWO MILES FROM HIGHWAY 5 TO 75.
ALSO, IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE EVEN IF THESE APARTMENTS DON'T PASS, ALL THE NEW APARTMENTS IN TOWN SQUARE THAT ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HIGHWAY 5 IN COLLIN COUNTY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING RIGHT DOWN OUR ROAD.
THE DISTANCE TO SINGLE FAMILY.
I HAVE A PICTURE HERE FOR ALL YOUR BACKYARDS.
HE SITS HERE AND SAYS IT'S 200 FEET, LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
TWO HUNDRED FEET IS LESS THAN A FOOTBALL FIELD, 67 FEET THAT HE PROMOTED, THAT'S 20 YARDS.
OUR ANNA FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM CAN THROW THAT.
HE'S TALKING ABOUT NOT HAVING PRIVACY. YOU CAN LOOK.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING, DOESN'T MATTER IT'S A TWO STORY OR THREE STORY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING RIGHT INTO THE BACKYARD.
OUR NEIGHBORS BOUGHT THESE HOUSES WHO HAVE PRIVACY IN THEIR BACKYARD, THEIR KIDS CAN RUN AROUND.
ALSO, IN THIS PICTURE, THERE'S A HILL.
WE'VE FINALLY SOMEWHAT GOTTEN THE EROSION UNDER CONTROL, BUT WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WHEN THEY COME PUT A BIG CONCRETE HILL IN THERE? ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS, BACKYARDS ARE GOING TO FLOOD. REAL FAST.
THIS IS ALL THE CRIMES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN ANNA.
I HAVE CAMDEN PARK, SHADOW BAND, WEST CROSSING, OCULO, LAKEVIEW STATES, IF YOU LOOK BELOW LAKEVIEW STATES THERE'S NOT MUCH THERE. THAT'S THE CON GROVE.
IN JANUARY, WE HAD ONE MINOR DISTURBANCE.
YOU SEE ALL THE OTHER ONES, THEY'VE GOT ASSAULTS, ARREST, DRUGS.
IT'S NOT A GATED COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT EVEN IF IT WAS, IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT MORE CRIME, NOT NECESSARILY FROM THE TENANTS, BUT IT WILL BE AN EASY TARGET IN AND OUT. IT'S JUST A KNOWN FACT.
ALSO THE LIGHTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE APARTMENT.
SORRY, GUYS, I'M REALLY NERVOUS.
BUT ANYWAYS, ANNA, WE'VE [INAUDIBLE] WE'VE NEVER HAD PORCH PIRATES, WE'VE NEVER HAD THE CAR BREAK INS.
>> DEVIN LANELL. [BACKGROUND] IT'LL BE ADLIS WILLIAMS AFTER THIS.
>> THIS IS DEVIN LANELL. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
>> I'M DEVIN LANELL. I LIVE AT 901 HOLLY STREET IN ANNA TEXAS.
FROM SOMEONE WHO JUST JUST CAME HERE JUST TO BASICALLY OPPOSE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING, SOMEONE WHO'S JUST TRYING TO GET TO WORK, HAPPENED TO WAIT 10, 15 MINUTES ON THE OUTER LOOP ROAD TO GET OUT HAS BEEN A NIGHTMARE.
EVER SINCE THE NEW APARTMENTS HAVE BEEN BUILT ACROSS HIGHWAY 5 ON FROSTER CROSSING.
IT HAS BEEN JUST HORRENDOUS TO GET ANYWHERE.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, THIS GUY'S BUILDINGS LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
THEY'D LOOK GREAT IN FRISCO WHEN THEY BUILD THE NEW UNIVERSAL STUDIOS, THAT'S WHERE THEY SHOULD GO, BUT WE DON'T NEED THEM IN ANNA, WHERE WE HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL TREE LINE THAT'S EVENTUALLY GOING TO GO AWAY.
THAT WAS THE BIG SELLING POINT FOR US WHEN WE MOVED TO THIS AREA, WAS OUR REAL ESTATE AGENT TOOK US AND WE SAW THIS TREE LINE AND WE JUST FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS TREE LINE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE GONE WITH ALL THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER WITH THE TRAFFIC UNTIL THERE'S SOME PLAN TO BUILD BIGGER ROADS.
BUT I DON'T WANT BIGGER ROADS, I LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS NOW. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
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>> WE DO GET TO TRAFFIC ISSUES.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS ELISE WILLIAMS. I LIVE AT 20806 PECON GROVE DRIVE, AND GRETCHEN DID A WONDERFUL JOB MAKING MOST OF MY POINTS ALREADY, BUT I ALREADY WROTE MY SPEECH.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU DENY THE REZONING REQUEST FOR AGENDA ITEMS 14 AND 15.
I'M AN 11 YEAR RESIDENT HERE IN PECON GROVE.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT FIRST DREW ME AND MY HUSBAND HERE TO ANNA WAS THE SLOWER PACE, THE SMALL TOWN CHARM THAT IT HAS.
IT WAS A PLACE THAT OFFERED A RESPITE FROM THE FAST PACE, OVERCROWDED, HUSTLE AND BUSTLE OF THE LARGER CITIES NEARBY.
IN OUR LITTLE CORNER OF THE CITY, AND PECON GROVE, WE HAVE OUR OWN SMALL SLICE OF HEAVEN, AS CLICHE AS THAT SOUNDS.
FROM THE CREEK, TO THE HILLS, TO THE CANOPY LINE ON COUNTRY ROAD, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS TRULY UNIQUE IN THIS TOWN.
IN FACT, IT SEEMS TO BE THE LAST LITTLE BIT OF SECLUSION LEFT IN THE CITY.
AS OF LATE ANNA HAS BEEN BOOMING.
NOT ONLY HAS THE POPULATION GROWN IMMENSELY, BUT COMMERCIAL AREAS HAVE POPPED UP ALL OVER AND THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING, AS WE'VE BEEN HEARING TONIGHT.
ANNA WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND SOON BE UNRECOGNIZABLE AS THE SMALL TOWN THAT WE ALL FELL IN LOVE WITH.
IF THE AREAS IN QUESTION ARE REZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY AND/OR COMMERCIAL USE, THE PIECE THAT WE HAVE IN PECON GROVE WILL BE SHATTERED.
IT WILL MEAN INFINITELY MORE TRAFFIC, NOT ONLY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC INCREASE, THE COMMERCIAL AREA WILL DRAW IN MORE NON-RESIDENTS.
THIS TRANSLATES INTO A SEVERELY DECREASED QUALITY OF LIFE.
YOU SAW THE BACKUP ON THE OUTER LOOP, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
BUT THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A HUGE SAFETY CONCERN AS WELL.
WE'VE GOT CHILDREN AT PLAY, JOGGERS GETTING IN THEIR EXERCISE, NEW DRIVERS THAT NEED ALL THE HELP THEY CAN GET TO BEGIN WITH, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTEND WITH EXPONENTIALLY MORE CARS ON THE ROADWAY.
THERE'S ALSO THE CRIME ASPECT TO CONSIDER.
MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS STATISTICALLY BRING IN MORE CRIME.
I'VE BEEN WITNESS TO THIS MYSELF, BOTH IN APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOMES, THERE IS JUST MORE CRIME THAT OCCURS.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE FACT THAT WHEN I INEVITABLY LEAVE MY CAR UNLOCKED BY ACCIDENT AT NIGHT, I WILL FIND IN THE MORNING NOTHING'S BEEN STOLEN.
I CAN TRUST MY NEIGHBORS, I LOVE THAT, AND I FEAR THAT IF THIS MULTIFAMILY COMES IN, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT SECURITY ANYMORE.
BUT WITH ALL OF THIS IN MIND, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE THIS LITTLE OASIS, THIS LITTLE BLISSFUL RETREAT THAT WE'VE MANAGED TO MAINTAIN DESPITE ALL OF THE GROWTH THAT THE CITY HAS SEEN.
I PLEASE ASK THAT YOU VOTE TO DENY THE REZONING CHANGE AND HELP SAFEGUARD THIS CHARMING COZY LIFE THAT WE, AND SO MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE IN PECON GROVE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
>> THANK YOU. RODNEY WILLIAMS.
>> GOOD EVENING, RODNEY WILLIAMS 2806 PECON GROVE DRIVE, AND MY WIFE SPOKE WELL, OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
I GUESS I JUST WANT TO SPEAK, FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, I'M NOT AGAINST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I AM AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
IF THIS WERE SITUATED SOMEWHERE ALONG THE OUTER LOOP OR HIGHWAY 5, SOMEWHERE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY.
BUT HAVING LIVED ALONG FROSTER CROSSING FOR 11 YEARS, WE'VE SEEN MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS, FLIPPED CARS, IF MEMORY SERVES, A FATALITY.
A MATTER OF FACT, A WEEK AGO I WAS SITTING AT THE STOP SIGN AT FROSTER CROSSING HIGHWAY 5, VERY NARROW, SOMEONE TRYING TO MAKE THE TURN, LOST CONTROL, AND [INAUDIBLE] SIDE OF MY CAR AND THE REST OF THE ROAD IS NOT ANY WIDER.
BUT FOR A PROJECT LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, TO BE SUCCESSFUL, YOU NEED ACCESSIBILITY, YOU NEED INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND FROSTER CROSSING EVEN IF THE CITY WERE TO DO AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO FIX THE ROAD, WE'RE STILL TALKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
JUST TO WIDEN THE BRIDGE AT TODAY'S DOLLARS WILL BE NORTH OF $800,000 FOR A PROJECT THAT HAS NO REAL INTER-CONNECTIVITY WITH THE REST OF ANNA.
I JUST DON'T SEE SUPPORTING THIS.
I THINK THE ZONING IS ODD TO DROP A PROJECT LIKE THIS IN THAT LITTLE POCKET INSTEAD OF ALONG THE OUTER LOOP, JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
ULTIMATELY, WHEN LOOKING AT THESE THINGS FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, NOW THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT IT.
SHOULD BENEFIT THE CITY, THE CITIZENS, AND THE DEVELOPER, OR IT CAN JUST BENEFIT THE DEVELOPER AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE LATTER, UNFORTUNATELY.
>> HI. GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TO
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EXPRESS THAT I AM DEFINITELY AGAINST RESERVING THIS PROPERTY.THERE ARE MULTIPLE REASONS WHY I'M AGAINST THIS.
AS MANY OF PEOPLE SAID, THE TRAFFIC ALONE IS A VERY GOOD REASON TO VOTE AGAINST THIS, BUT THIS IS THE MOST GORGEOUS ROAD IN ANNA.
IT HAS ALREADY ENDURED ENOUGH PROGRESS THE LAST FEW YEARS.
REZONING THIS FARM LAND WILL DESTROY THE NATURAL BEAUTY, PEACEFULNESS, AND ESCAPE FROM THE CONCRETE JUNGLE WE NOW LIVE IN.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER POSSIBILITIES TO BUILD THIS APARTMENT RETAIL COMPLEX, AREAS THAT ARE NOT FILLED WITH TREES AND NATURE, AREAS THAT ARE NOT ON TOP OF OTHER SUBDIVISIONS, AREAS THAT HAVE A BETTER FOOTPRINT, AREAS THAT DON'T AFFECT CITIZENS' QUALITY OF LIFE, AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USE, AREAS NOT IN ANNA.
DOES ANNA REALLY NEED ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT NOW? JUST BECAUSE THERE IS VACANT LAND, DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE BUILT ON IT. IT JUST DOESN'T.
THIS DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE SURROUNDINGS AND I QUESTION EVEN IF THIS DEVELOPER HAS EVEN BEEN OUT THERE TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE YOU CAN TELL THAT THAT BUILDING DOES NOT BELONG ON THAT PIECE OF LAND.
I IMPLORE YOU TO VOTE NO ON CHANGING THE ZONING.
ANNA NEEDS NICE THING, ANNA DESERVES NICE THINGS AND IT'S UP TO US TO PRESERVE IT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
PLEASE DON'T LET OUR BEAUTY AND TRANQUILITY BE DESTROYED BY CORPORATE GREED. THANK YOU.
>> HEY, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MANNY SING, 1001 HOLLY STREET.
TODAY WE ARE CONVENING TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE PUT FORTH BY CRAIG INTERNATIONAL AND JPI.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO KNOW THAT JPI WAS RECENTLY PUT OUT BY A JAPANESE COMPANY, THEY HAVE NO ALLEGIANCE HERE.
OUR STANCE IS ONE OF OPPOSITION TO THIS UP ZONING REQUEST.
HOWEVER, IT'S CRUCIAL TO EMPHASIZE WE ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL.
WE WANT JOBS, WE WANT REAL CAREERS.
WE DO NOT WANT RETAIL BUSINESSES ANYMORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
WHAT WE WANT IS REAL EMPLOYMENT ANCHORS.
OUR SUPPORT FOR DEVELOPMENT REMAIN STRONG, PROVIDED THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPERS RESPECT EXISTING PLANS AND CONSIDER THE NEEDS AND CONCERNS OF ANNA RESIDENTS.
HERE'S SOME IMPORTANT CONTEXT.
WHEN THE 2050 PLAN WAS CREATED, IT WAS MADE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ANNA'S NEIGHBORS, COMPREHENSIVE TASK FORCE, ANNA'S ELECTED AND APPOINTED LEADERS, PUBLIC INPUT, AND KIMLEY-HORN, WHO'S A CONSULTING COMPANY.
THEY STATE THAT WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT A MAJORITY OF THIS AREA, SUBURBAN LIVING IN CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL.
IN THEIR OWN PACKET THEY EVEN STATE, THIS MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT AT AG OR AT DISTRICT ZONING WOULD NOT BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CHARACTER AND INTENT OF THESE TYPE OF PLACES.
IN OUR OWN FUTURE LAND USE DOCUMENT, IT STATES IN ONE OF THE AREAS THAT DEVELOPMENT CHARACTER IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR.
NOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL MIX.
IN THE 2050 PLAN, EXHIBIT 3.3 YOU NOTICED THAT THEY SELL.
WE ORIGINALLY AGREED TO APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 11% MIX OF MULTIFAMILY.
THIS STATES THAT APPROXIMATELY WHAT THAT MEANS IS ABOUT 3,176 UNITS, YET WE ARE PACING AHEAD.
FUTURE PROJECTIONS, TOTAL SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AT ABOUT 52,000, 11% OF THAT WOULD BE 5,800 UNITS.
HOWEVER, WE'VE ALREADY GOT OVER 3,000 UNITS AND OVER 10,000 UNITS IN THE PIPELINE.
DID ANYONE HERE GOT TO THOSE 10,000 UNITS? I DON'T THINK SO.
HERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL RISKS.
IT BECOMES A HIGH DENSITY TRAFFIC CORRIDOR, 460 UNITS PLUS, WITH THAT COME WITH 0.25 PARKING REQUIREMENTS, AND 300 PLUS PARKING FOR COMMERCIAL UNITS.
A LOT OF NOISE, A LOT OF LIGHT POLLUTION AS WELL.
THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, APPROXIMATELY 22 PER ACRE.
UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT GAPS, INCREASED STUDENT TO TEACHER RATIO SERVICES SUCH AS FIRE EMS, ET CETERA, THAT WILL BE STRAINED.
KEEP IN MIND, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DEFINES A SAFE CITY STANDARD OF TWO OFFICERS PER 1,000 RESIDENTS.
WE ALSO HAVE A RECENT STUDY THAT CAME OUT IN JANUARY THAT SHOWS THAT DALLAS IS THE NUMBER ONE PLACE FOR UNDER CONSTRUCTION UNITS.
WE HAVE ENOUGH IN DALLAS, THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OPPORTUNITIES.
WE'VE JUST HAD OUR FILL IN ANNA.
A COUPLE OTHER STUDIES TO MENTION: EFFECTS OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING ON PROPERTY VALUES, CRIME AND CODE VIOLATIONS IN LITTLE ROCK 2000-2016 FOUND A LARGE MARKET RATE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND CONDOMINIUMS APPEAR TO
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INCREASE THE VULNERABILITY OF PROPERTIES WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF VIOLENT CRIME.AN ARTICLE TITLED MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND CRIME.
THIS ONE ALSO FINISH OFF OF THIS MENTIONED, THE STUDY FOUND THAT MULTIFAMILY HOUSING WERE MORE LIKELY TO BE VICTIMS OF BOTH VIOLENT AND PROPERTY CRIMES THAN THOSE WHO LIVED IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THE RISK OF CRIME WAS HIGHEST IN MULTIFAMILY HOUSING WITH THREE OR MORE UNITS. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
KEVIN SUSIE? AM I SAYING IT WRONG?
>> HE SPOKE ON ANOTHER ITEM [BACKGROUND]
>> ARE YOU PASSING ON THIS ONE BECAUSE HE WROTE 1415? [BACKGROUND] GOT YOU. ROBERT DRENNEN.
ACTUALLY HADN'T PLANNED ON SPEAKING. MY NAME IS ROBERT DRENNEN.
I LIVE AT 2817 LESLIE LANE, WHICH IS THE CORNER LOT RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF LESLIE LANE AND BURL.
I HAVE THREE GERMAN SHEPHERDS.
YOU'RE PUTTING A DOG PARK RIGHT BEHIND THREE GERMAN SHEPHERDS.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A PRIVACY WALL, FIRST OF ALL? SECONDLY, I HAVE AN 80-YEAR-OLD MOTHER WHO RARELY DRIVES HER CAR, BUT SHE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO BROOKSHIRES.
THE EXPANSION OF FERGUSON ROAD, I'M FINE WITH THAT. THAT'S COOL.
BUT WE DON'T NEED APARTMENT COMPLEX BECAUSE MY MOTHER IS VULNERABLE.
SHE'S GOING TO BE 90 IN 10 YEARS BY THE TIME THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX IS FULL AND GOING DOWNHILL AND NOBODY WANTS TO MOVE INTO PECAN GROVE.
YES, I'M OPPOSED TO THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS, AND THE DOG PARK, LIKE SPREADING ALL DOG DISEASES FOR MY GERMAN SHEPHERDS.
I DIDN'T PLAN ON SPEAKING, SO I'M JUST DOING THIS, BUT I'M JOINING ALL MY BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORS HERE. WE'RE ON ONE ACCORD.
SOME OF THEM HATE ME, SOME OF THEM LOVE ME, BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL ON ONE PAGE WHEN WE SAY HELL NO TO YOUR APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
>> THANK YOU. EDWARD CULHAM, AND NEXT UP AFTER HIM WOULD BE BENJAMIN WALKER.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS EDWARD CULHAM.
I LIVE AT 2901 PECAN GROVE DRIVE.
I WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY JUST TO GIVE MY FAMILY'S PERSPECTIVE ON THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
I'M 33-YEARS-OLD, WHEN I WAS 25, I LIVED IN AN APARTMENT.
WHEN I WAS 22, I LIVED IN AN APARTMENT.
BEFORE THAT, I LIVED IN MY FAMILY'S HOME.
I LIVED IN AN APARTMENT AT 22, VERY SIMILAR TO THIS WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, IT WAS VERY NICE.
EVERYONE WHO MOVED IN LIKED IT.
IT WAS VERY WELL TAKEN CARE OF.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THAT, PEOPLE STARTED LEAVING AND THEN PEOPLE MOVED IN WHO WEREN'T AS INTERESTED IN THE APARTMENT, BUT THEY JUST NEEDED SOMEWHERE TO STAY.
SOON, THERE WAS VOMIT IN THE HALLWAYS.
THERE WERE ALTERCATIONS BETWEEN RESIDENTS.
APARTMENTS LIKE THIS, THEY LOOK NICE ON BUILDING PLANS, BUT AFTER THEY'VE BEEN THERE A FEW YEARS AND MANAGEMENT CHANGES A FEW TIMES, THE APARTMENTS GO DOWNHILL.
THERE WILL BE CRIME COMING FROM THESE APARTMENTS.
AFTER I LEFT THAT APARTMENT AT 25, I MOVED INTO A GATED COMMUNITY APARTMENT BUILDING.
WHEN MY FIANCEE WAS EIGHT MONTHS PREGNANT WITH OUR CHILD, WE WERE WATCHING TV ONE NIGHT AND WE HEARD SCREAMING FROM ACROSS THE UNIT.
JUST ACROSS THE WAY WE LOOKED OUTSIDE, THERE WERE PEOPLE AND THERE WAS A FIGHT.
SOMEONE WAS KNOCKED UNCONSCIOUS AND LEANING AGAINST OUR DOOR AT OUR GATED APARTMENT FOR HOURS BEFORE HE WOKE UP. WE WERE TERRIFIED.
MY WIFE WAS SCARED, MY FIANCEE WAS SCARED, AND WE DECIDED THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE OUR CHILD IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX LIKE THAT BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW NICE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS, IT ALWAYS GOES DOWNHILL.
IT ALWAYS HAS CRIME BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES DON'T CARE LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO BUY HOMES.
THEY'RE JUST HERE TEMPORARILY.
IF THEY WANTED TO STAY, THEY WOULD BUY A HOME.
WE DON'T NEED MORE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS IN OUR BACKYARD.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC ISSUES GOING WESTBOUND TOWARD THE HIGHWAY.
A LOT OF US WHO LIVE IN PECAN GROVE HAVE CHILDREN, SOME OF WHOM GO TO HARLOW ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS TO THE EAST.
IT'S EASY TO GET TO THE SCHOOL RIGHT NOW GOING EAST ON FOSTER CROSSING, BECAUSE THERE AREN'T 400 APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
THERE AREN'T A BUNCH OF RETAIL STORES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TRYING TO ACCESS.
AFTER I LEFT THAT APARTMENT WHERE THE ALTERCATION HAPPENED, I MOVED TO AMARILLO WHERE I WAS A PROSECUTOR.
MOST OF OUR CRIME THAT I HAD ASSAULTS FROM CAME FROM EITHER RETAIL STORES OR RESTAURANTS, ALTERCATIONS BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RESTAURANT.
THEY ALSO BREED ROBBERIES AND BREAK INS, WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN FROM HOMES BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO STEAL FROM STORES MORE THAN THEY'RE LOOKING TO STEAL FROM HOMES.
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THE STORES WILL BRING CRIME.THE STORES WILL LEAD TO ONE OF TWO THINGS, EITHER THEY WILL BE SUCCESSFUL AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, THE TRAFFIC WILL BE INSANE, IT WON'T BE POSSIBLE TO GET TO THE SCHOOL IN A TIMELY MANNER FOR OUR CHILDREN.
OR THE STORES WILL FAIL, THEY WILL BE ABANDONED, THEY WILL BE SOLD TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALLY CARE, AND THAT WILL BRING EVEN MORE CRIME.
ANNA HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, I'VE HEARD WHEN, BEFORE WE MOVED HERE, THAT THEY WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE M STREETS TO THE MOCKINGBIRD STATION AREA.
WE HAVE THE BEST HOMES IN ANNA.
WE HAVE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DRIVEWAY.
WE HAVE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL STREET IN ANNA.
PLEASE DO NOT DESTROY THAT FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND STORES, WHICH COULD BE PUT ANYWHERE ELSE IN ANNA.
YOU CANNOT GET THESE BEAUTIFUL M STREET TYPE HOMES ANYWHERE ELSE.
YOU CAN GET THE APARTMENTS IN THE STORES ANYWHERE ELSE.
>> I'LL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH ALL THE POINTS ARE THE SAME.
BUT THE BIGGEST ISSUE I SEE WITH THIS ONE IS, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE DOG PARK RIGHT NEXT TO HIS GERMAN SHEPHERDS BECAUSE I FEEL BAD FOR HIM AT THIS POINT.
HE MADE IT SO ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
BUT IN ALL HONESTY, WE'RE LOOKING AT FERGUSON GOING THROUGH.
FERGUSON, IS THAT RIGHT WHERE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS, THAT FERGUSON? THAT'S ALREADY BLOCKED UP, THAT ALREADY HAS PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC, THAT ALREADY HAS ISSUES WITH THOROUGHFARE TWICE A DAY, THAT FERGUSON? OR WE'RE GOING TO PUMP THEM ALL DOWN, LIKE THEY SAID, COUNTY ROAD? THAT'LL BE GOOD RIGHT THERE WHERE THE OTHER JPI APARTMENTS ARE, WHERE ALL THE TRUCKS ARE ALREADY GOING, WHERE THEY JUST HAD A FATAL ACCIDENT, WHAT? A MONTH AGO. WHAT ARE WE DOING, GUYS? I'M GOING TO SUM IT UP REAL NICE AND SWEET.
BOTTOM LINE IS APARTMENT COMPLEXES, EVERYONE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE JOBS AND IT'LL BE GREAT FOR THE TAX REVENUE.
WHEN YOU FIGURE OUT THOSE APARTMENTS ON A PER DOOR BASIS AND YOU START THINKING ABOUT IT, HOW MANY BATHROOMS? HOW MANY PEOPLE? YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, SUDDENLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT, WHOA, I COULD HAVE PUT MAYBE, WHAT, 100 HOMES ON THERE, 102 BATHROOM HOMES.
MAYBE THREE PEOPLE, OR YOU DO THAT 400 TIMES.
WHO USES MORE WATER? WHO USES MORE ELECTRICITY? WHO NEEDS MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT? WHO NEEDS MORE TRAFFIC CONTROL? ARE YOU REALLY TELLING ME THE TAX REVENUE THAT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX IS GOING TO PAY IN PROPERTY TAXES ACTUALLY GENERATES ENOUGH TO COVER ALL THAT? IT DOESN'T, AND WE ALL KNOW IT DOESN'T.
THEN THEY'LL TALK ABOUT, WELL, WE'LL HAVE THE COMMERCIAL, SO WE'LL GET THE SALES TAX.
HEY MAN, SALES TAX IS PAID BY US.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE REMEMBERS THAT.
I DON'T NEED ANOTHER PIZZERIA.
I DON'T NEED ANOTHER BANK, SO I'M NOT SEEING WHERE ANY OF THIS IS GOING.
ALL I'M SEEING IS IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE RUSHING TO PUT OUR NAME ON THE MAP BECAUSE WE HAVE DEVELOPERS RUNNING IN WITH FISTS FULL OF MONEY, AND WE'RE LIKE, THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR THE CITY.
THE PROBLEM IS, WE'RE NOT THINKING OF WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN TEN OR 20 YEARS.
THIS FLIES IN THE FACE OF ANNA IN 2050, AND I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS.
I STILL THINK WE NEED A PERMANENT MORATORIUM ON ALL MULTIFAMILY INDEFINITELY AND DON'T DALLAS MY ANNA GUYS.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:22 PM, AND CONFINE COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF.
DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECT?
>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF. TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE, DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON, PROBABLY DON'T, EXTENDING FERGUSON SOUTH TO CONNECT IN WITH THIS PROPOSED?
>> I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT TO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, GREG PETERS, ON THE TIMELINE FOR FERGUSON.
>> JUST TO PULL IT FROM ITS EXISTING POINT DOWN TO WHERE THIS WOULD CONNECT.
>> CURRENTLY, WE ARE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ENGINEERING DESIGN PHASE.
THE PROJECT HAS FEDERAL FUNDING ATTACHED TO IT, SO IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME LINE.
BASICALLY, WE RECEIVED AN 80-20 MATCH FROM THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, SO WE'RE ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR 20% OF THE COST, THEY'RE PAYING 80%.
BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDING.
WE EXPECT DESIGN TO WRAP UP EARLY NEXT YEAR.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS SHOULD BE COMPLETE LATE THIS YEAR.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS TO WORK ON THE NEXT PHASE OF FUNDING,
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WHICH WOULD INCLUDE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION FUNDS.WE'RE STILL PROBABLY TWO YEARS AWAY FROM BEING AT CONSTRUCTION AND IT COULD TAKE LONGER THAN THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ALL OF OUR COMMENTS BACK ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS YET.
WHEN WAS THIS DEAL MADE WITH THE FAMILY?
>> IT WAS A PROCESS OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
IT STARTED BACK PROBABLY IN 2016, 2017 TIME FRAME.
I DON'T HAVE ALL MY NOTES IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF MEETINGS BETWEEN SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THAT TIME, STAFF, PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA AND SUCH.
IT WAS DISCUSSED OVER NUMEROUS PERIODS OF TIME.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATES OF WHEN [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ACCURATE STATEMENT TO SAY THAT THERE WAS A CONSENSUS IN 2019, ON THE ALIGNMENT OF THE ROAD.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.
>> IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS AND WE'RE STILL TWO YEARS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS?
>> CORRECT. IF YOU LOOK COMPARATIVELY, SO LIKE LEONARD AVENUE, JUST TO ADD BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER THAT PROJECT.
IT'LL BE DONE LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL THIS YEAR, BUT THAT'S 100% CITY FUNDED.
IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A LONG TERM NEED.
THAT PROJECT WASN'T EVEN IN OUR CIP THREE YEARS AGO.
WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH FEDERAL FUNDING, THE ADVANTAGES, WE GET AN 80-20 MATCH, SO WE GET $0.80 ON THE DOLLAR PAID BY SOMEONE ELSE.
THE DISADVANTAGE IS, THE PROCESS IS VERY, VERY LONG.
>> I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION FOR MISS MICKEY.
THE PROPERTY AS IT SITS TODAY, THIS PORTION THAT BUTTS UP TO PECAN GROVE, ZONING'S CURRENTLY SINGLE FAMILY, CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. LET GO BACK TO THAT FIRST SLIDE.
>> IT'S A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PECAN GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ZONING EXHIBIT IS NOT VERY CLEAR, BUT ESSENTIALLY, IT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF OUR SF-6 AND SF-7.2 ZONING.
THE DELINEATION IS NOT AS SPECIFIC AS I WOULD PREFER ON A CONCEPT PLAN, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT ZONING IN PLACE IS TODAY FOR THE PURPLE AREA, AND THEN THE REMAINDER IS LOCATED IN THE ETJ WHERE WE HAVE NO RESTRICTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S TOUGH GUYS.
GOT EXISTING WHEN THE RESIDENTS BOUGHT THE HOMES, THEY LOOKED AT THE ZONING, THEY SAY, THIS IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY AND NOW TO FLIP IT TO MULTI FAMILY, THAT'S A TOUGH ASK.
>> WELL, IT DOESN'T CONFORM WITH THE 2050 PLAN EITHER.
[BACKGROUND] [APPLAUSE] DO YOU HAVE HIS SPEAKER CARD? [BACKGROUND] EVEN THOUGH I'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU YOUR THREE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I LIVE AT 10120 DARIA DRIVE, IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
I'M HERE BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I OWN THAT LITTLE RECTANGLE OF LAND JUST TO THE EAST AND NORTH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
FIRST I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE BURL AND JOHNNY [INAUDIBLE] MY IN LAWS, WHO GENEROUSLY GIFTED MY WIFE AND I THE PARCEL OF LAND I'M HERE TO DEFEND.
THEY ALSO GIFTED THE LAND OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO THE OWNERS OF THE LAND, WHOSE REZONING WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS.
THEIR HOPES WITH THESE GIFTS WAS TO PROVIDE THEIR DESCENDANTS WITH PERMANENT HOME ON LAND RECOGNIZED BY THE TEXAS FAMILY HERITAGE LAND PROGRAM, AS HAVING BEEN CONTINUOUSLY WORKED BY A SINGLE FAMILY FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT INTENDS TO INTERRUPT BOTH THIS HISTORY AND THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF THESE GIFTS IS DISAPPOINTING TO MY WIFE AND I.
BUT IT'S NOT THE SUBJECT TO THIS MEETING.
WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT APARTMENTS.
I KNOW I HAVE LITTLE TO ADD TO THAT.
I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT THE SIZE OF THESE UNITS IS REALLY NOT CHARACTERISTIC OF ANNA.
THE AVERAGE APARTMENT SIZE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT IS BARELY 800 SQUARE FEET.
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MOST OF THE UNITS ARE 600 SQUARE FEET.THIS ISN'T JUST SMALL FOR COLLIN COUNTY, IT IS SMALL FOR TEXAS, IT'S SMALL FOR MANHATTAN ISLAND.
YOUR ROLE IS TO DECIDE WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
OUR OBJECTION REALLY IS BASED ON THE LOSS OF ACCESS TO OUR LAND.
ACCESS FOR FARM EQUIPMENT IS NOW THROUGH THE AGRICULTURAL LAND THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, AND WE'RE GOING TO LOSE IT COMPLETELY, IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETELY BLOCKED.
THE ONLY OTHER ACCESS IS A PRIVATE ROAD ALONG THE EASTERN EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY, DESIGNATED AS [INAUDIBLE] FARM ROAD, AND IT'S BLOCKED.
IT'S BEEN BLOCKED WITH EQUIPMENT FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.
IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED OUR ONLY ACCESS TO OUR LAND WILL BE THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S DESIGNED FOR TRACTOR TRAFFIC.
YOU'RE HERE TO DECIDE WHAT THE COMMUNITY OF THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE, OUR LAND IS WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF HAVANA.
OUR FAMILY HAS HAD THIS LAND SINCE BEFORE THE PROJECT WAS ANNOUNCED, BEFORE ANNA WAS EVEN INCORPORATED AS A CITY, AND WE DEPEND UPON YOU TO PRESERVE OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO USE THIS LAND IN ITS ACCUSTOMED FORM.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM?
>> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN REAL QUICK? GO TO THE RENDERING ONE THAT'S COLORED.
OH, NO, NOT THAT ONE. SORRY. KEEP GOING.
YES. IT SHOWS A LITTLE BETTER.
THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. MY THOUGHTS, CLEARLY I THINK, LOOK, JP HAS A GOOD DEVELOPER, THEY THOUGHT THIS OUT BY SHOVING THE MULTIFAMILY DOWN LOWER BUT IN THE TOWNHOMES, SO I GET THAT.
THE RETAIL ON THE SIGN, YOU GUYS KNOW I DO RETAIL LEASING.
THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TO LEASE, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW.
MAYBE NOT IN THE FUTURE, BUT RIGHT NOW THE NEXT TWO YEARS FOR THIS ROAD TO GET BUILT, THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO LEASE.
THAT'S TOUGH. BUT THE BIG THING FOR ME IS THE RE-ZONE.
YOU GOT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY.
WHEN THE CITIZENS BOUGHT THE HOMES, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE SUBDIVISION, AND THEN TO FLIP THAT ZONING.
YES. THAT'S A TOUGH ONE TO ASK, I DON'T KNOW IF I GET BEHIND THAT.
>> THIS IS STILL A CONCEPT PLAN, CORRECT?
>> OH, EVEN IF YOU DO BUILD THIS, BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP THE DENSITY, THAT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH DENSITY FOR THOSE RETAILER RESTAURANTS TO BE PROFITABLE, EVEN WITH MULTIFAMILY UNITS, THEY'RE [OVERLAPPING]
>> EVEN THE ROADS ARE NOT EVEN BUILT YET.
>> YEAH. THAT'S 7-8 YEARS OUT.
>> BLANCETT, DID YOU HAVE COMMENT?
>> I'M JUST CONCERNED AS WELL.
WE ALL WANT TO PUSH RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL, BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE RIGHT SPOT FOR THAT.
>> THAT'S NOT A MAIN [INAUDIBLE] [APPLAUSE] EVEN IF IT DOES BRING IT DOWN THERE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE RETAIL THAT WE WANT THERE ANYWAY.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE BAIT SHOPS AND THE TATTOO PARLORS. [APPLAUSE].
>> WELL, IT'S NOT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ULTIMATELY IT'S NOT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IT'S NOT PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO DENY.
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY BY [INAUDIBLE] MARTIN.
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLANCETT.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> YES. I ALSO SAY YES BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE [APPLAUSE] [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] CALM DOWN.
PLEASE CALM DOWN. THE MOTION PASSES, UNANIMOUS.
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CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON THE JEFFERSON FOSTER CROSSING BLOCK A, LOT 1, BLOCK B, LOT 1, AND FOSTER CROSSING COMMERCIAL BLOCK C, LOT 1 CONCEPT PLAN.
APPLICANT, JOAN LESLIE LUSCOMB, AND SAMUEL ADAMS STEVENSON.
THIS ITEM WAS CONTINGENT ON NUMBER 14, SO I WILL MOTION TO DENY THIS AS WELL.
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> YES. COMMISSIONER BLANCETT?
>> MYSELF. MOTION PASSES, UNANIMOUS [APPLAUSE] [NOISE] WE'LL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK, PLEASE.
WE'LL COME BACK AT 8:40 [NOISE]
>> THANK YOU. ARE WE BACK? ARE WE LIVE? WE ARE BACK AT 8:41 PM.
WE WILL CONTINUE WITH ITEM NUMBER 18, PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON A REQUEST FOR A PRE-ANNEXATION AGREEMENT OF 470 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND DETACHED LOTS WITH MULTIPLE COMMON AREAS LOCATED ON 60 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF FERGUSON PARKWAY, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 731, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FUTURE [INAUDIBLE] PARKWAY.
APPLICANT, REVOCABLE COLLINS FAMILY TRUST. MISS MECHE.
>> WE HAVE RECEIVED A PRE-ANNEXATION AGREEMENT REQUEST, AND WITH THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING A ZONING-TYPE ACTION.
THEREFORE I RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION GIVE FEEDBACK.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 371, ADJACENT TO BRYANT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
IN THEIR PROPOSED PLAN, THEY'RE PROPOSING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED PRODUCT.
THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL AND RANCHING IN AGRICULTURE.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE IS WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE DEFINITIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED VERSUS A TOWN HOME UNIT.
THERE'S TWO DISTINCT DEFINITIONS, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I'M HAVING WITH THE PROPOSED LAYOUT.
IN THE PINK LOTS THEY ARE SHOWING WHAT IS A FIRE LANE RATHER THAN A DEDICATED PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THAT OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS REQUIRES THAT EACH LOT HAS FRONTAGE ON A PUBLIC STREET.
IF THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED PRODUCT, WHICH IS AN INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED LOT, IT WOULD NOT BE MEETING THAT REGULATION.
IF IT IS A TOWNHOME UNIT, THEN THAT IS MULTI FAMILY, WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ANOTHER ISSUE IS THE PROPOSED LOT AREA.
WE JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED THE MIXED DENSITY DISTRICT WITH A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED PRODUCT ON A LOT THAT IS 4,500 SQUARE FEET.
THEY ARE PROPOSING 4,000 SQUARE FEET FOR A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED PRODUCT.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE STATES 2,400 SQUARE FEET.
THEY ARE PROPOSING 2,100, 2,200, AND 2,000 SQUARE FEET.
WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AS ENHANCEMENTS WOULD BE THE MINIMUM BUILDING SIZE, WHICH EXCEEDS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED IN THE PREVIOUS ZONING ORDINANCE.
THEY ARE PROPOSING AN ENHANCED HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, AND PROPOSING DEDICATED OFF-STREET PARKING ADJACENT TO THESE TOWN HOME UNITS.
THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO GIVE THE ENGINEER AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS A FEEDBACK.
>> WHAT EXACTLY IS A BUNGALOW?
>> I LIVED IN ONE. THEY'RE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE LIKE ONE NEIGHBOR.
IT'S A LITTLE SINGLE STORY AND IT'S LIKE A TOWN HOME, BUT IT'S ONLY A ONE STORY.
>> YEAH, IT'S LIKE A DUPLEX, BUT IT'S ONE STORY.
THEY'RE REALLY CUTE AND THEY'RE AFFORDABLE.
>> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLAN ZONING COMMISSION MARTIN SANCHEZ, 210 ADRIATIC PARKWAY, MCKINNEY, TX 75072.
I'M SO USED TO DOING THAT SO MANY TIMES I DON'T KNOW.
>> IF YOU REQUIRE IT HERE OR NOT, SO I APOLOGIZE.
>> IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT THAN NOT NEED IT.
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>> YES, MA'AM. THESE BUNGALOWS AND COTTAGES, THIS IS A MORE WHAT WE WOULD CALL A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN.
IT'S VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW WE'RE LAYING THIS OUT.
IT'S MEANT TO ATTRACT AND FOCUS WITH SINGLE PROFESSIONALS, REALLY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
THE COTTAGES ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FACE EACH OTHER AND THEY HAVE THIS LANDSCAPE COURTYARD IN BETWEEN.
THIS IS WHY THEY'RE REAR LOAD.
IT HAS AN ALLEY, IF YOU WOULD.
THE TYPICAL APPROACH THAT WE USED FOR THIS DESIGN, ACTUALLY THE ALLEY, WE JUST CALL IT A MOTOR COURT AND IT'S A HAMMERHEAD.
YOU GO IN AND COME BACK OUT FROM THAT MOTOR COURT, YOU PEEL OFF INTO THE FOUR VARIOUS GARAGES.
IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF REASONS, WHAT WE DID IS WE ACTUALLY CONNECTED THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING AN ALLEY, THAT DEAD ENDED AS A HAMMERHEAD, WE TURNED IT COMPLETELY AROUND THE UNITS FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE, IT ALLOWED FOR BETTER FIRE ACCESS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDINGS.
THEN TWO, IT ACTUALLY ALLOWED, BECAUSE OF THE GEOMETRY OF HOW ROADS TURN, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL GUEST PARKING.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE SEE WHENEVER WE DESIGN THE SPECIALTY UNITS LIKE THIS IS THAT IT WORKS GREAT FOR THE RESIDENTS.
BUT INVARIABLY YOU HAVE YOUR FRIEND, YOU INVITE TO COME OVER WATCH THE FOOTBALL GAME OR WHATNOT.
THIS HAPPENS EVEN IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, JUST TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY. WHERE DO THEY PARK? YOU INVITE ONE FRIEND THAT'S OKAY, YOU INVITE 10 OR 20 FRIENDS FOR A SUPER BOWL PARTY, NOW, WHERE DO THEY PARK? ALTHOUGH THE DENSER, COOL COTTAGES AND BUNGALOWS THAT WE HAVE WITH THESE LANDSCAPE COURTYARDS, THEY DO POSE A CHALLENGE ON THE OTHER HAND, WHICH IS WHERE DO YOU PARK YOUR GUESTS AND YOUR FRIENDS? THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT THAT THE TRADE OFF WAS CERTAINLY WORTH IT BY US PROVIDING ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT'S NOT REQUIRED IN YOUR CODE, BUT IT'S JUST BETTER DESIGN.
>> ALL OF THESE UNITS HAVE GARAGES?
>> YES, MA'AM. EVERY ONE OF THOSE UNITS HAVE GARAGES? WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THESE UNITS ARE REAR LOADERS, SOME ARE TOWN HOMES, LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER A MORE TRADITIONAL TYPE TOWN HOME.
THEN SOME OF THESE ARE, IN PLANNING PARLANCE, WE CALL IT MEWS, WHICH IS REALLY A LANDSCAPE COURTYARD, WHERE IF YOU WALKED OUTSIDE AND HAD A CUP OF COFFEE OR A GLASS OF WINE, YOU'D ACTUALLY INTERACT WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR WHO IS FACING YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT LANDSCAPE COURTYARD.
IT ACTUALLY WORKS REALLY WELL.
WE SEE THESE ESPECIALLY IN GROWING DISTRICTS BECAUSE IT DOES CATER TO A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL.
THEY LIVE LIFE VERY DIFFERENTLY WITHOUT BEING STEREOTYPICAL.
THEY DON'T WANT TO YARD, THEY DON'T WANT TO GO MOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO LANDSCAPING, THEY WANT TO KNOW THEIR FRIENDS, THEY WANT TO HAVE BLOCK PARTIES.
JUST NOT BECAUSE IT'S A NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A THURSDAY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
THESE UNITS ARE ESPECIALLY GEARED TOWARDS THAT KIND OF BUYER.
ALL OF THESE ARE FOR SALE PRODUCT, NONE OF THIS IS FOR RENT PRODUCT WHATSOEVER.
WE FIND IN THE EVOLVING DEMOGRAPHICS, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, WE CALL THEM LOCK AND LEAVERS.
THEY TRULY WANT TO BE ABLE TO LOCK THE DOOR AND LEAVE AND GO ON A VACATION OR JUST DRIVE OUT TO CARL'S BAD.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS CATERED TO DO.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, QUITE FRANKLY, IS CAPTURE WHAT WE FEEL IS GOING TO BE A GROWING POPULATION.
ANNA, WITH ITS PROXIMITY TO SHERMAN, IS THAT PROFESSIONAL IT RELATED TYPE BUYER.
>> ARE THEY ONE CAR OR TWO CAR GARAGES?
>> WE GET REAL CREATIVE WITH THE USE OF SPACE.
>> WELL, AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM IF THEY HAVE A SUPER BOWL PARTY.
>> OR ANY KIND OF PARTY REALLY, CHILD PARTY OR WHATEVER.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. WE FIND THAT JUST ABOUT IT, REALLY EVERYWHERE.
BECAUSE THE STANDARD PARLANCE, FOR A LONG TIME IN MOST CITIES IN DALLAS, THE DFW AREA, WE ALL TOOK OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CUES FROM NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS, AND WE ALL GREW FROM THAT OUT OF THE '80S, AND A TYPICAL SECTION STREET WAS ABOUT 27 FEET BACK TO BACK, SOME HAVE IT 29 FEET BACK TO BACK, BUT IT'S STILL THAT DIMENSIONALITY.
WHEN I SAY BACK TO BACK, BACK TO CURB TO BACK OF CURB, WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, IS IF YOU HAVE A TEENAGER OR IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS OVER, OR IF YOU HAVE TWO SPOUSES WITH A CAR EACH, AND THEN THEY TURN THEIR GARAGE INTO THE TEXAS PROVERBIAL STORAGE UNIT, THEN THAT STARTS SPILLING OUT BACKWARDS.
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THEN SOMEBODY PARKS IN THE CURB.THEN BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET PARKS IN THE CURB.
THEN WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY, WHETHER IT'S JUST A UPS DRIVER OR EMERGENCY VEHICLE, THEY'RE PLAYING ZIG ZAG TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THERE.
THE ISSUE IS EXACERBATED WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SPECIALTY UNITS.
THAT'S WHY WE REALLY TRY TO PROVIDE THOSE ADDITIONAL GUEST PARKING, AND THEY'RE HIDDEN IN THE BACK.
>> LAUREN, WOULD THIS NEED MULTIFAMILY ZONING? BECAUSE IF WE GIVE IT MULTIFAMILY ZONING.
>> THAT IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ARE THOSE PINK UNITS FOR THAT ONE LOT.
>> THIS IS WHERE MS. MANKY AND I ARE GOING TO, WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS.
PROFESSIONALLY, WE BOTH AGREE ON A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN WE DISAGREE ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS, WHICH IS NORMAL IN PLANNING BECAUSE THE RULES AREN'T AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS ENGINEERING.
WE CAN ACTUALLY PLATT THESE AS INDIVIDUAL LOTS ON A FIRE LANE.
LET ME JUST DELVE INTO SOME OF THE NUANCE THERE.
THE TRADITIONAL DEFINITION THAT SAYS ALL UNITS MUST FACE ONTO A PLATTED ROAD.
NONE OF THESE UNITS ACTUALLY FACE A PLATTED ROAD.
THE BUILDING SIDE TO THE PLATTED ROAD.
WHAT WE DO IS WE STILL CAN PLATT THE FIRE LANE.
THE ISSUE HAS MORE TO DO WITH GIS ADDRESSING 911 AND MAIL SERVICE.
IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, WE DON'T PUT MAILBOXES IN FRONT OF EVERY UNIT ANYMORE.
THE USPS DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO IT, EVERYWHERE YOU HAVE TO DO MAIL BANKS.
BUT ONCE YOU GET OVER THAT HISTORICAL HURDLE, EVERYTHING STARTS MAKING, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
IF I COULD AS JUST A PURE EXAMPLE.
THERE'S A NORTH SOUTH ROAD AND ALL OF THESE COTTAGES SIDE TO IT, LET'S JUST CALL IT, I DON'T KNOW, ELM STREET.
ALL THOSE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE 301 ELM A, B, C, D. THEN THE NEXT UNIT, WHICH IS STILL NEXT TO IT, IS GOING TO BE ELM STREET, 351 A, B, C, D. THE ADDRESSING WORKS JUST FINE, WE DO IT ALL THE TIME.
THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THIS IS IF YOU THINK ABOUT A POWER CENTER THINK ABOUT A LOS TARGET CENTER.
RIGHT IN BETWEEN, YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING FROM JOANNA'S TO THE THAI PLACE, AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF.
WELL, NONE OF THOSE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY ON A PLOTTED STREET.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT WORKS THE EXACT SAME WAY.
THEY'RE ALL ON FIRE LANES AND THE ADDRESSING WORKS, AND WE ALL KNOW WHERE IT IS AND WE ALL KNOW HOW TO GET TO IT, INCLUDING FIRE AND EMS. I WILL CONTINUE, IF THE COMMISSION IS AMENABLE TO THIS, WORK WITH MS. MANKY TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH A SYSTEM THAT MAKES THE CITY HAPPY BECAUSE THIS IS A PROGRAMMATIC ISSUE, BUT FUNCTIONALLY THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
IN FACT, THAT FIRE LANE WILL WORK JUST LIKE A STREET.
NOBODY WILL KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
THE REASON WE CHOOSE IT TO BE A FIRE LIGHT IS BECAUSE I GET TO STRIPE IT.
MOST TIMES PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WHY STRIPE IT? WELL, WHEN YOU STRIPE IT, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THAT RED STRIPE THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PARK THERE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'LL GET TOWED.
THE FIRE MARSHAL HE'S A MEAN GUY OR GIRL, NONE OF US REALLY LIKE TO MESS WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL.
ON A STREET, IT'S NOT STRIPED, AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE ALL THE PARKING ON A 27 FOOT BACK TO BACK, AND THEY PARK LIKE THIS, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WEAVE THROUGH THERE.
ONCE YOU STRIPE IT, PEOPLE STAY AWAY FROM THE PLAGUE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GET TOWED, THEY DON'T WANT TO GET FINED. THAT'S WHY WE DO IT.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE ANSWER IS YES AND NO.
WE DON'T INTEND TO DO FOR IT TO BE MULTIFAMILY.
I'M SURE MS. MANKY AND I CAN COME UP WITH A MECHANICAL WAY TO SATISFY THE CITY AS LONG AS WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS TO SKINNY THAT CAT.
>> TRUE. DOES THIS CONFORM WITH THE 2050 PLAN?
>> 2050 PLAN CALLS FOR CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL AND RANCHING.
THE CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL DOES STATE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AS ONE OF THE LAND USES.
THEN OF COURSE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH RANCHING AND AGRICULTURE SAYS CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL WHEN LAND IS PRESERVED, EQUAL TO THE SPACE.
IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THE TOWN HOMES, THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, IS IN LINE WITH THE CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL.
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[LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SEVERAL DETENTION AREAS, AND AMENITY CENTER, THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, THE DOG PARKS BETWEEN THE PARKING THAT ON THE LEFT HAND CORNER.THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF GREEN SPACE IN THAT AREA.
>> BUT THIS COUNTS TOWARDS THE GREEN SPACE.
>> I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S AROUND IT, NOW, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT ON THIS SLIDE HERE, BUT THERE'S A SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH.
YOU'VE GOT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT BUTTS UP TO IT, SO THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AS MUCH WITH THE SAYING, HEY, IT'S AARGH BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CONFERENCE PLAN.
IT'S GOT SOME AARGH TO IT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH.
IN THE PACKET THAT YOU SENT US, THERE'S THIS ARTICLE 9.04 ZONING ORDINANCE, AND IT'S RED LINED.
DID THE DEVELOPER REDLINE THAT OR IS THAT OR WE REDLINED IT?
I'LL TELL YOU MY COMMENT OR FEEDBACK TO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING, JUST MAY HELP CLARIFY A LOT OF THINGS FOR ME.
SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP BEFORE THAT I'VE PUSHED BACK ON IS THE REPETITION OF DWELLING UNITS, THE FACADES, LOWERING THAT FROM FOUR TO TWO, PROBABLY GOING TO PUSH BACK ON THAT.
>> I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. IF I COULD ACTUALLY ADDRESS A COUPLE OF YOUR COMMENTS REAL QUICK.
RELATIVE TO THE DOCUMENT, THE GOOD THING IS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND SO WE GET TO WORK WITH FOLKS LIKE MISS BENKY, THERE'S A PROFESSIONAL TRUST, IF YOU WOULD.
WE STARTED WITH A DOCUMENT AND THEN JUST REDLINE IT BACK AND FORTH SO THAT WE CONSTANTLY ARE GOING LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S A TYPO.
WE FIX THAT ONE. THEN WE CAN GET TO A DOCUMENT AT THE VERY END THAT WE CAN JOINTLY PRESENT EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE WITH CERTAIN THINGS.
BUT THAT WAY YOU SEE THE WHOLE PROCESS.
>> RELATIVE TO THE OPEN SPACE, WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS WE DID SOME STUFF HERE THAT'S REALLY COOL, THAT IT GETS LOST ON PAPER.
ON THE WESTERN EDGE, WHICH IS YOUR LEFT ON THE EXHIBIT, THERE IS A BIG DETENTION POND THERE SHADED ALL PRETTY BLUE.
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA IS ALREADY A FLOODPLAIN THERE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE JURISDICTIONAL, WHICH COMES DOWN TO A WETLANDS ISSUE.
RATHER THAN TRYING TO RECLAIM IT, WHICH WE COULD HAVE QUITE EASILY, WE SAID NO, NO PART OF IT IS LEAVE IT IN ITS NATURAL STATE, THEN LET'S PUT THE DETENTION POND NEXT TO IT.
LET'S PUT A SIDEWALK AROUND IT, ETC., AND MAKE IT LOOK AN INTEGRATED PART OF THAT OPEN SPACE.
BECAUSE YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT IS NEW AND DESIGNED TO MATCH WITH WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.
NO MATTER HOW SMALL IT IS, IT'S STILL A BETTER DESIGN.
THEN WE PUT THE AMENITY CENTER AS CLOSE TO THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS I POSSIBLY COULD, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT OF THE POND.
THE RATIONALE THERE IS, AGAIN, PLANNING PHILOSOPHY IS THAT THE CLOSER I CAN PUT THAT AMENITY CENTER TO THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE BETTER IT IS FOR EVERY RESIDENT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE SHORTEST PATH FOR EVERYONE.
THE WHOLE IDEA HERE IS TO GET FOLKS OUT OF THEIR HOUSE, GET THEM WALKING OUT ON THE STREET, GO TO THE AMENITY CENTER, GO TO THE PONDS, ETC.
THESE ARE WHAT TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNS ARE.
IT'S ALL ABOUT WALKABILITY AND GETTING OUT IN THE ENVIRONMENT AND MEETING YOUR NEIGHBORS, ETC.
WHERE WE COULD, WE PUT ALL THOSE ELEMENTS TOGETHER TO GET BETTER BANG FOR THE BUCK.
WE DID A COMMUNITY IN MCKINNEY IS WHERE I TESTED THIS THEORY OUT BEFORE, 10, 15 YEARS AGO AND I'VE LOVED IT SO MUCH THAT I'VE USED IT SEVERAL TIMES WHERE WE CAN INCORPORATE THE DETENTION POND, FLOOD PLAINS, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, AND IT WORKS REALLY, REALLY WELL FOR FOLKS.
THAT WAS A REAL INTENTIONAL PART OF OUR OVERALL DESIGN.
>> FOR THE TOP RIGHT, WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE A POND AREA, WOULD YOU ALSO BE PUTTING PATHWAY?
>> YES. WE WILL ALSO PUT A PATHWAY NO MATTER WHAT.
THAT HONESTLY IS HIGH AND DRY.
IF I GOT REAL AGGRESSIVE, I COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT MORE BUILDING STUFF ON THERE.
BUT IN REALITY, THERE'S AN ENGINEERING FUNCTION WE'VE GOT TO SOLVE NO MATTER WHAT, WHICH IS DETENTION.
I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE IT LOOK AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE, PUT AGAIN A PATHWAY AROUND THERE, AND AT LEAST THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THAT SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE A FEATURE ALSO THAT THEY CAN WORK IN.
>> BECAUSE THEY'RE THE FURTHEST AWAY FROM ON THE LEFT.
>> EXACTLY. THEN ULTIMATELY ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,
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WE HAVE THE FIRE LANE THAT GOES AROUND TO THE UNITS.THEN THE SKIP IS THESE POCKET PARK DOG PARKS, EACH ONE OF THOSE IS ALMOST HALF AN ACRE.
AGAIN, I COULD PUT MORE UNITS ON THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT.
THOSE ARE BETTER PLACES TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
THAT'S WHERE YOU GO THROUGH THE FOOTBALL, YOU GO THROUGH THE FRISBEE, YOU TAKE FIDO, YOU GO DRINK A BEER OR A GLASS OF WINE OR WHATEVER, SMOKE A CIGAR.
BUT AT LEAST YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LITTLE POCKET AREA.
AGAIN, WHERE YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BEING OUTSIDE.
>> BOTH OF THE POND AREAS, THEY WILL BOTH HOLD WATER?
>> YES, MA'AM. WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN THESE AS ACTUAL RETENTION PONDS PROVIDED THAT ENGINEERING IS HAPPY WITH US BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
THERE'S SOME NUANCE THERE, BUT THAT'S THE INTENT.
THEN ABOVE THE WATER LINE UP IS THE FREEBOARD, THE ACTUAL DETENTION FUNCTION. THERE YOU GO.
>> ALL OF YOUR SPACE IS YOUR COTTAGE PARK, DOG PARKS, THEY'RE ALL ON THIS SIDE?
>> YES, MA'AM, BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR TIGHTEST PRODUCTS.
>> THERE'S NOTHING ON THIS SIDE IN THE AMENITY CENTER.
>> OTHER THAN THE AMENITY CENTER.
>> NOTHING DOWN ALONG THE LINES OF 371?
AT THAT POINT THAT WAS THE ONE OPENING UP TO WHAT WAS STREET H, WHICH IS THAT EAST WEST ONE THERE WAS SUPER CRITICAL SO THAT LITTLE JOHNNY, LITTLE SUSIE RIDING THEIR BIKE CAN GET TO THE AMENITY CENTER FAIRLY EASILY.
WE LOST THREE OR FOUR LOTS THERE, BUT IT'S OKAY.
THAT'S NOT THE POINT. IT'S TO GET THEM TO THE AMENITY CENTER AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.
THEN THE EAST WEST COLLECTOR GETS THEM OVER TO THE SCHOOL.
NOW, ADMITTEDLY, THAT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THAT EAST WEST HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO GET LITTLE JOHNNY AND LITTLE SUSIE OVER THERE SAFELY.
BUT ON THE SCHOOL SIDE, THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THE SCHOOL NECESSARILY TO RECEIVE THEM YET, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM.
IN FACT, MISS KEY BROUGHT UP, I THINK, IT WAS LAUREN AND HER TEAM ABOUT THE SCHOOL MAY BE NEEDING OR WANTING SOME ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS OF SOME SORT THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO IMPLEMENT AS WELL.
>> THEY NEED ANOTHER FIRE LANE LOOP, CAN'T HELP THEM WITH THAT.
>> THEY NEED IT. THEY ONLY HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE OUT OF THAT SCHOOL, WHICH IS CAUSING A BUNCH OF THEIR PROBLEMS.
>> THEY MADE IT INTO A SOCCER FIELD.
PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MADE A FIRE LANE.
>> BUT YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT THAT I FAILED TO DISCUSS.
THERE'S TWO PROVERBIAL DOUGHNUT HOLES, IF YOU WOULD.
ONE ALONG 371, BETWEEN OUR RESIDENTIAL SOUTHERN PORTION AND THE SCHOOL.
THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAD SOLD THAT TRACK TO A CHURCH SOME TIME AGO SO IT'S KIND OF NO MAN'S LAND BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR THE REST OF US TO DEVELOP, I'M SURE, AND BRING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKE THEIR LIVES A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND CHEAPER.
THAT'S OKAY. THEN THE LANDOWNERS ARE RETAINING THE PIECE TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS THE OTHER CARVE OUT FOR THEIR HOMESTEAD AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
MY GUT IS IN THE FUTURE, WHENEVER THAT MAY BE A DAY, 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS, THAT THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME IN AT SOME POINT AS A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND A MIXTURE AND/OR OF SOMETHING LIKE A TOWNHOME PRODUCT JUST BECAUSE OF THE DIMENSIONS AND WHERE IT IS RELATIVE TO FERGUSON AND MANTUA.
BUT THAT'S MY GUT. I GET TO PLAY IN THE FUTURE. MAKE STUFF UP.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> I LIKE WHERE IT'S POSITIONED.
I THINK IT'S GOOD TO PUT IT HERE.
IF IT WAS TO BE IN ZONING, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO PUT IT BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY NOT A LOT OF HOUSES RIGHT THERE SO YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE BY THIS IF YOU WANT TO.
MY FIRST HOUSE IN 2020 WAS, IT WAS A TOWNHOUSE, BUT I PURCHASED IT AND IT HAD THE GARAGES, WHICH I APPRECIATED.
BUT WITHOUT AN HOA WHO SAYS YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET, STILL BECOMES AN ISSUE.
COMING FROM COLORADO SPRINGS, IT IS STILL DOING WELL.
THAT AREA IS STILL DOING WELL.
I THINK IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO 75 THAT IT PUTS IT IN A GOOD POSITION TOO BUT I DON'T LIKE HOW MANY THERE ARE.
I THINK IT HAS DEFINITELY WOULD NEED TO BE LESS OF THEM.
THERE ARE TOO MANY IN ONE AREA. TOO DENSE?
>> THEY COULD BE A LITTLE LARGER IN SIZE.
>> WELL, ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO, OH, THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RIGHT THERE.
SO NOW FIRST YOU ARE SELLING TO PEOPLE WHO WERE SINGLE, AND NOW YOU'RE SELLING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN AND THEY HAVE MORE CARS AND MORE GEAR.
>> I THINK YOUR POINTS ARE ABSOLUTELY DEAD ON.
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OUR PRIMARY BUYER IS A SINGLE PROFESSIONAL, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT LIFE IS LIFE AND THERE WILL BE SOME KIDS, ESPECIALLY THAT CLOSE TO THE ELEMENTARY.THE IDEA IS TO GET THEM THERE BY BIKE OR WALKING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
TO AVOID MOM AND DAD HAVING TO LOAD ONTO FERGUSON, LOAD ONTO CR371, JUST TO DRIVE OVER A BLOCK TO DROP THEM OFF BECAUSE THAT'S BAD LAND PLANNING AND BAD TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
THAT'S WHY. I SEE YOUR POINT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
>> WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I BOUGHT A BUNGALOW WHEN I WAS COMING INTO MY SENIOR YEAR IN COLLEGE AND I UNEXPECTEDLY BECAME A MOM AT 21 MY SENIOR YEAR IN COLLEGE.
I WAS THE PERSON YOU DESCRIBED AT THE VERY BEGINNING THAT BOUGHT THE BUNGALOW, BEING AN ENGINEER GOING THROUGH COLLEGE, DIDN'T WANT KIDS, HAD MY FRIENDS OVER ON THE WEEKEND.
BUNGALOW WAS PERFECT AND IT WAS JUST ME AND I LOVED IT.
UNEXPECTEDLY, I HAD A CHILD AND MY NEAREST FAMILY IS 3 1/2 HOURS AWAY FROM HERE, AND I HAD TO RAISE HIM BY MYSELF WITH NO FAMILY HERE TO HELP.
IF HE WAS LOCATED NEXT TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT HAD A PRE-K LIKE JKB DOES, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL TO ME BECAUSE IT TOOK ME EIGHT TO NINE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO PROCURE AND BUY MY OWN HOME, BEING A SINGLE MOM WITH NO FAMILY HERE SO I THINK IT GIVES THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS, ESPECIALLY WITH SOMEONE IN MY POSITION THAT WAS YOUNG, NOT MARRIED, AND RAISED A KID THAT'S CURRENTLY 16 YEARS OLD.
>> TO MY POINT, WE NEED BIGGER SPACES, NOT AS MANY OF THEM.
BIGGER ONES FOR PEOPLE WHO DO BECOME FAMILIES.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE SOME MORE PARKING SPACES, LIKE A COMMUNAL PARKING LOT, MAYBE.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS.
I REALLY LIKE THE CONCEPT, AND MY SON GOES TO JKB.
>> I'LL PUT YOU ON THE LIST. [LAUGHTER]
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. APPRECIATE IT, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU.
>> NOW, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 19.
CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON A REQUEST TO ZONE A CIVIC CENTER, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON 6.8 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 373 AND NORTH POWELL PARKWAY, ZONED LOCAL COMMERCIAL C1, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, L1 AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE 485-2010.
APPLICANT, STEPHEN SMITH, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AND THEY HAVE ASKED THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THE APRIL 1ST MEETING IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED AT 120 WEST SEVENTH STREET, ANNA, TEXAS 75409.
>> NO, WE'RE NOT DENYING THAT.
>> I WILL MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF TABLING.
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
>> AND MYSELF. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
ITEM NUMBER 20, DISCUSS AND DIRECTION REGARDING ARTICLE 9.07 TREE PRESERVATION IN RELATION TO CITY PARKS. MISS MEKI.
>> YOU WILL BE SEEING A LOT MORE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ITEMS IN THE FUTURE, HOPEFULLY NOT ON A LONG AGENDA LIKE THIS.
HOWEVER, WE RECENTLY HAD A PARK PROJECT WHERE WE WERE IN THE PRELIMINARY REVIEW AND I SAID, HEY, YOU NEED A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, WHICH MEANS YOU NEED A TREE SURVEY.
STAFF WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE COSTS THAT WOULD TAKE.
I REVIEWED THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN AND THE LANDSCAPE PLANS THROUGH AND THROUGH, AND THE ONLY WAY WOULD BE FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO GO BEFORE THE TREE BOARD, WHICH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS APPOINTED AS.
IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO GIVE A WAIVER OF THE TREE PRESERVATION, MEANING A WAIVER OF THE TREE SURVEY, IN ORDER TO ASSESS TREE MITIGATIONS AS WELL AS DO CITY PARKS NEED TO HAVE TREE MITIGATIONS.
GOING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, THE CITY IS EXEMPT FROM APPLICATION FEES.
THE PARK AND SCHOOL PLAYING FIELDS, HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS ARE EXEMPT FROM TREE MITIGATION.
BUT OTHERWISE, THE ONLY OTHER THING IS FOR EACH PROJECT TO GO THROUGH THE WAIVER PROCESS.
IN THIS CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT PARKING LOTS ON A NEW CITY PARK.
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THEREFORE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM YOU.DO YOU THINK IN YOUR OPINION, SHOULD WE AMEND THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE TO EXEMPT CITY PARKS? SHOULD WE REQUIRE CITY PARKS TO SUBMIT A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT AS OUTLINED? SHOULD WE MAKE EACH PROJECT GO BEFORE THE TREE BOARD, YOU, AND CITY COUNCIL FOR EACH TIME THAT THIS IS AN OCCURRENCE OR SOME MIX OF THE THREE?
>> HOW OFTEN DO YOU EXPECT FOR THIS TO HAPPEN?
>> WELL, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CITY PARKS COMING ONLINE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THERE'S THE WOODS AT LINDSEY, HAS TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY, ANNA TOWN SQUARE.
VILLAGES OF HURRICANE CREEK IS GOING TO BE DEDICATING SOME LAND.
THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TREE AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY IN THE FUTURE.
>> BUT NO TREES WILL BE REMOVED UNTIL IT IS DEDICATED.
>> UNTIL THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING A PARK.
>> COMMENT. BUT IF WE GRANT THIS, THEN THEY HAVE CARTE BLANCHE ON TREE REMOVAL.
CAN YOU BACK UP ONE SLIDE? THE CITY IS EXEMPT FROM APPLICATION FEES.
PARK/SCHOOL PLAYING FIELDS, HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS ARE EXEMPT.
PARK AND SCHOOL PLAYING FIELDS ARE EXEMPT FROM TREE MITIGATION, BUT CITY PARKS.
>> THIS WOULD JUST BE PLAYING FIELDS.
A SOCCER FIELD IS EXEMPT FROM TREE MITIGATION BUT DOES NOT EXEMPT IT FROM THE TREE SURVEY PART OF IT.
>> IF I COULD LAUREN, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, I'LL JUST WANT TO JUMP IN AND BRIEFLY STATE SOMETHING AND JUST EXPLAIN WHAT WE SEE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.
WE HAVE THESE PROPERTIES WHERE DEVELOPERS ARE DEDICATING PARK LAND AND THEY HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE PARK BOARD AND THE PARK BOARD CHOOSES TO ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
IF THE PARK BOARD DOESN'T ACCEPT IT, THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY A DEDICATION FEE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE LAND.
THAT KEEPS US FROM INHERITING JUNK PROPERTY THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH.
BUT WITH THAT A LOT OF TIMES THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, OKAY, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS A PARK? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEVELOP IT? WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
SOME PARKS WILL REMAIN UNDEVELOPED FOR YEARS.
WE HAVE ONE THAT WE'VE JUST STARTED THE DESIGN PROCESS ON FOR ANNA CROSSING PARK, WHICH IS IN THE ANNA TOWN SQUARE, ANNA CROSSING NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TREES ON THAT SITE.
THEN YOU HAVE PARKS THAT ARE MORE WIDE OPEN BECAUSE IT WAS A FIELD.
THE DEVELOPER BUILT HOUSES AND THEY'RE GOING TO DEDICATE A PIECE, AND IT'S JUST A FLAT PIECE OF LAND WITH NO TREES.
I THINK WHERE THIS IS GOING TO AND IT'S REALLY A DECISION, I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHICH WAY IS RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT JUST GENERALLY, WHEN WE DO A PARK PROJECT, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE HEAVILY WOODED AREAS.
IF WE WANT TO ADD A PARKING LOT OR EVEN I THINK THE WAY I READ THE TEXT, EVEN IF WE WANT TO PUT IN A PLAYGROUND, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO TREE MITIGATION BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T COUNT AS A BALL FIELD, THINGS LIKE THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, I CAN SAY OUR STAFF THAT'S HERE CURRENTLY, OUR INTENT IS TO NOT JUST WILLY NILLY GET RID OF TREES.
WE WANT TO BE TARGETED AND SPECIFIC IN WHAT WE DO.
REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS THERE'S A COST ITEM AND THERE'S A CHECKS AND BALANCES ITEM.
THE TREE SURVEY TAKES TIME AND COSTS MONEY.
THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN DO THAT.
WE COULD GO OUT AND SHOOT EVERY INDIVIDUAL TREE.
LAUREN HAS COME UP WITH SOME REALLY GREAT WAYS TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS ON SOME OF THAT WHERE IT'S HEAVILY WOODED.
SHE HAS SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS ON HOW TO DO THAT, BUT IT DOES ADD MONEY TO THE PROJECT.
EVEN IF THE DEVELOPERS BUILDING THE PARK AND WE MAKE HIM GO DO THAT TREE SURVEY, THAT'S MONEY THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES.
>> APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT?
>> IT VARIES ON THE SIZE OF THE PARK, BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING ANYWHERE ON THE LOW END FROM PROBABLY 3,500-5 GRAND UP TO $20,000 DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE.
>> I HAD A EIGHT ACRE PROPERTY DOWN IN AUSTIN THAT I HAD TO DO A TREE SURVEY ON, IT WAS 10 GRAND AND IT WAS COMMERCIAL AND IT WAS A SHOPPING CENTER, SO IT CAN ADD UP.
>> IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH ACREAGE YOU HAVE LEFT AFTER THE BUILDING AND THE CONCRETE BECAUSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT WE DO SOUTH OF HERE, I'LL JUST SAY IT THAT WAY, THEY RANGE TOO.
>> THE IMAGES BEFORE YOU ON THE LEFT IS ONE WHERE ALL OF THE GREEN AREA IN THE PARK PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY PRESERVE TREES.
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THE ORANGE AREAS IS WHERE THEY REMOVE THEM.THEN ANY THAT MET THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS, THEY HAD TO GO AND SURVEY EACH TREE.
THEN ON THE RIGHT IS THE ANNA RANCH PHASE 1C, THEIR DETENTION AREA.
MOST OF THOSE TREES WERE EXEMPT BECAUSE OF DETENTION AND DRAINAGE, BUT THEY STILL WENT AND SURVEYED EVERY SINGLE TREE THAT THEY REMOVED.
>> THAT'S THE LITTLE PURPLE DOTS?
>> THE LARGER ISSUE I SEE IS THAT AS ANNA GROWS AND ANNA GETS MORE GRAY, MORE CONCRETE AS EVERYONE'S PLANNING ABOUT, THE TREE MITIGATION IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL BECAUSE AS WE TAKE AWAY, WE NEED TO BE PRESERVING AND PUTTING BACK.
IF WE ESTABLISH IT NOW, IT'LL ALREADY BE IN PLACE. WE'LL ALREADY HAVE IT.
WE WON'T HAVE TO REVISIT THIS IN 20 MORE YEARS WHEN WE GET TO BE MORE CONCRETE.
IT'LL BE HERE AND EVERY MAJOR CITY HAS ONE ALREADY.
>> WELL, IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
THE QUESTION IS IN RELATION TO CITY PARKS.
>> SHOULD IT APPLY? SHOULD THERE BE A MASS WAIVER? SHOULD IT BE REVIEWED CASE BY CASE BY THE TREE BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL?
>> WE'VE NEVER HAD A TREE BOARD MEETING.
>> WE ARE. I'D SAY CASE BY CASE BECAUSE YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO POP UP.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OPTIONS THERE BECAUSE CLEARLY WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE MORE WORK AND HEADACHE FOR THE CITY STAFF.
IT COSTS MONEY FOR THINGS THAT MIGHT BE SILLY BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK.
>> ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU MAKE TONIGHT ARE NOT FINAL.
ANY CHANGES HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL.
COUNCIL WOULD BE THE ONE WHO WOULD CHANGE THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.
BUT SINCE YOU ARE THE TREE BOARD, I FIGURED I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE EXEMPT, PERIOD.
THAT PUSHES ALL BAD LIKE WORD EXCEPTION, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE EXEMPT, WORST CASE THEY BE SUBMITTED ON A PER BASIS.
>> I WOULD GO WITH THE REQUIRE CITY PARKS TO SUBMIT A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT AS OUTLINED.
>> IS THAT GOING BEFORE THE TREE BOARD AND COUNCIL?
>> SO WE JUST STAY IN LINE WITH THAT.
>> RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION FOR HER TO TAKE AND DEAL WITH.
>> THE ONE PART THAT I HAVE IN MIND WHAT I WOULD DO IS ON OUR NEXT AGENDA, I WOULD HAVE SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE DONE WITH THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY BOARD THAT YOU ALSO ARE APPOINTED AS.
[LAUGHTER] WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD HAVE THAT AS A SEPARATE LINE ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU HAVE TO OPEN AN ESTABLISHED FORUM FOR THE TREE BOARD, AND THEN I WOULD PRESENT TO YOU THE PROJECT THAT IS WANTING A WAIVER FROM THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.
>> I'M GOOD WITH THAT. ARE YOU ALL GOOD WITH THAT?
>> BECAUSE BASED ON SIZE, LIKE IF IT'S REALLY SMALL, BIG.
I DO TOO. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT?
>> I LIKE THE ACCOUNTABILITY THERE.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? NO. I WILL MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLANSCET.
ALL IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER MARTIN?
WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 9:23 PM.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.