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OH, THERE WE GO. WELCOME, EVERYONE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING FOR JANUARY 3RD, 2024.
[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN AN OPEN SESSION ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM AND TURN IT INTO CITY STAFF.I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6 P.M.
ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COMMISSIONER BLANCHETT.
FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN TOGETHER THIS EVENING IN THIS NEW YEAR.
FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THOSE WONDERFUL HOLIDAY SEASON THAT WE'VE HAD.
AND PRAY, LORD, THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS A WONDERFUL YEAR IN 2024 AND THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE ARE FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY.
FATHER, THANK YOU, LORD, FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT WE HAVE.
EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION MAY BE TAKING PLACE AT THIS MEETING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO THE NEIGHBORS' INQUIRY, OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. I WILL CLOSE THAT AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT ITEMS.
[Consent Items]
DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO PULL AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO. IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEMS FIVE THROUGH 16? A MOTION TO APPROVE.I SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY.
OH, WAS IT YOU? OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDEN.
SORRY. I GET THESE TWO MIXED UP.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MARTIN.
ALL IN FAVOR? . MOTION PASSES.
UNANIMOUS. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17.
[Items for Individual Consideration]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON THE EAST FORK ESTATES BLOCK A LOTS 11R, 11A, AND 12 ARE RESIDENTIAL REPLAT THE APPLICANT IS JANET AND ROBERT SANFORD AND BILLY TATE.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:03 P.M.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A REPLAT.
PER STATE LAW, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL.
ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:04 P.M.
IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM? AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.
CONSIDER. DISCUSS. ACTION ON AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING PLAN.
DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE NUMBER 887-2020 ON 341 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE FUTURE FERGUSON PARKWAY, NORTH OF HACKBERRY DRIVE AND SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 371.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:04 P.M.
MISS MECKE? ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A ZONING AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE ANNA CAPRI DEVELOPMENT LOCATED IN NORTH CENTRAL AREA OF ANNA.
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THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS ARE TO THE COVERED PARKING REGULATIONS, THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES FOR MULTIFAMILY, THE HOUSE REPETITION FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, AND AN EXHIBIT EXPLAINING THE CARIBBEAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE PLAN.DEVELOPMENT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY PORTION.
PREVIOUSLY IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, THEY DID NOT DISCUSS THE COVERED PARKING REQUIREMENT.
THEY ARE NOW ASKING TO REDUCE THE COVERED PARKING TO 40%.
PREVIOUSLY, WHEN THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS ADOPTED, THE COVERED PARKING WAS 75%.
SINCE THEN, THE CITY HAS REDUCED THE COVERED PARKING REQUIREMENT TO 50%.
WE REQUIRE THAT MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, AND WITHIN THAT SECTION, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO AMEND AS SHOWN BEFORE YOU. THE SECOND PORTION IS FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
UM, IN OUR REGULATIONS, WE REQUIRE THAT HOUSES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER WITHIN FOUR HOUSES OR ACROSS THE STREET ARE NOT SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER FROM 4 TO 3, AND THEN ALLOWING HOUSES THAT ARE DIAGONAL FROM EACH OTHER TO BE THE SAME, SUBSTANTIALLY IDENTICAL EXTERIOR.
AND THEN THE FOURTH PART OF THEIR REQUEST IS TO ADD A LETTER FROM THEIR ARCHITECT.
THIS IS RELATED TO AN AMENDMENT REQUEST TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REGARDING BUILDING MATERIALS.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, BUILDING MATERIALS CANNOT BE INCLUDED IN THE ZONING, BUT THEY DID WANT TO INCLUDE THE LETTER STATING THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS THIS CARIBBEAN THEME.
THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO SO ATTACH A LETTER.
WE CAN'T DICTATE BUILDING MATERIALS, BUT IF THEY ATTACH A LETTER, I MEAN IS THAT EVEN ENFORCEABLE? BECAUSE WE KNOW THE CARIBBEAN THEME IS ENFORCEABLE.
SO, AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE ADOBE HOUSES OR BRICK GOTHIC ARCHITECTURE.
WE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT IN OUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
SO ON THE PARKING PREVIOUSLY YOU SAID IT WAS AT 75% CORRECT AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REDUCE TO 40.
AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE STATED THAT IT WAS 75% REQUIRED.
THEY SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN AND THAT WAS THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THEIR SITE PLAN WAS THAT THEY WERE NOT MEETING THE COVERED PARKING, AND SO THEY WITHDREW THEIR SITE PLAN, STATING THEY WERE GOING TO COME FORWARD WITH AN AMENDMENT REQUEST TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND IN THAT TIME, BEFORE THEY SUBMITTED THEIR REQUEST, THE CITY AMENDED THE ZONING ORDINANCE, REPEALED AND REPLACED IT, AND WE HAD REDUCED THE COVERED PARKING FOR MULTIFAMILY FROM 75% TO 50%.
SO, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS 40%.
THEY WEREN'T MEETING IT THE FIRST TIME, AND NOW THEY'RE NOT MEETING IT THE SECOND TIME.
THEY HAVE NOT RESUBMITTED THEIR SITE PLAN.
THEY'VE ONLY SENT IN THIS REQUEST.
EVERY THIRD HOUSE CAN BE THE SAME.
IS THAT CORRECT? SAME EXTERIOR.
I MAY DEFER THIS ONE TO NADAR, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS EVERY FOUR.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS EVERY FOUR.
AND WHY ARE THEY WANTING TO REDUCE THAT? I GUESS I'M NOT. SO, EVERY THIRD HOUSE TECHNICALLY COULD BE QUOTE UNQUOTE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR.
CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.
WHY ARE THEY WANTING TO REQUEST FROM 4 TO 3.
THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
CORRECT. PROBABLY TO GET MORE HOME BUYERS IN THERE.
BECAUSE YOU GIVE THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY.
AND IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT WHY THEY WANT TO DO THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE SUBSTANTIAL LOOK, THEY JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE BUILDINGS, THESE SINGLE FAMILIES ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ONE, THAT THEY'RE NOT VERY SIMILAR.
AND AS I SAID, IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR THAT WHY THEY WANT TO GO WITH THE.
WITH THIS. IS THE APPLICANT HERE RIGHT NOW?
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BECAUSE TO ME.WELL, LET'S ASK THAT OF THE APPLICANT.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? AND WHAT IS THE REASON FOR REDUCING IT FROM EVERY FOURTH HOUSE TO EVERY THIRD? UH, WE HAD A LOT OF PRE-SALES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'VE NOTICED THAT, UH.
A GOOD THING IS THAT PEOPLE ARE PICKING LARGER HOUSES.
AND THEY'RE ALSO ADDING A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF TO THEM.
SO, OUR PROPERTY VALUES ARE REALLY HIGH.
BUT BECAUSE THEY WANTED SOME OF THE LARGER HOUSES, BIG ONE STOREYS AND THEN A BUNCH OF TWO STORIES, IT ENDED UP CREATING SOME ISSUES WHERE WE COULDN'T OFFER THE BIG TWO STORY, OR WE COULDN'T OFFER THE BIG ONE STORY BECAUSE IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO EVERYTHING.
SO, OUR REQUEST WAS TO GIVE US SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY.
SO THAT WAS REALLY POPULAR, LARGE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SAY IT'S THE EXACT SAME.
SO, WE CAN CHANGE THE ELEVATION OR, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO IT.
I THINK SOME OF OUR FOLKS WERE.
JUST WORRIED THAT IF IT DOESN'T, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT KIND OF MORE EXACT.
SO THAT WAS THE, THE, THE REASON FOR THE ASK WAS WE HAD SO MANY PRE-SALES THAT WANTED THE LARGER SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AND BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PRETTY WIDE VARIETY OF SIZES.
HOW MANY FLOOR PLANS DO YOU HAVE? UH, TYPICALLY WE HAVE ABOUT 10 TO 12 40-FOOT PRODUCT AND THE SAME IN A 50-FOOT PRODUCT.
LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE 50S GO FROM ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 1600 TO ABOUT 3400, OR FOR THE 50S.
SO, THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD SWING.
BUT WE FOUND THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE BUYING LIKE IN A TOP THIRD OF THE SIZES, THE LARGER TOP THIRD OF THE HOMES, AND A LOT FEWER PEOPLE ARE BUYING THE SMALLER OR MIDDLE PRODUCTS.
SO, ON YOUR WEBSITE YOU'VE GOT FOUR DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS TO LOOK AT.
SOME OF OUR HOMES HAVE MAYBE UP TO SIX, AND MOST OF THEM I THINK HAVE FOUR.
IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE ONE FOR ANNA CAPRI THAT I LOOKED AT ONLY HAD FOUR FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PLANS, THE ELEVATIONS.
YEAH. OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE FOUR OF THOSE.
WHEN PEOPLE GO TO BUY THESE HOUSES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, DO THEY GET TO PICK THEIR LOT AND WHAT HOUSE THEY WANT ON IT? OR ARE YOU JUST SAYING WE HAVE FOUR OF THESE AND THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT GOES ON IT? YEAH, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO JUST BE WITH THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE REPETITION THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY THEN TO LIMIT HOW MANY HOMES OF THAT TYPE COULD BE BUILT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO JUST CHANGE WHICH SLOT THEY WANTED, WHICH SOMETIMES THEY WILL DO.
SOMETIMES WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY REALLY WANT A PARTICULAR LOT.
THEY REALLY WANT A PARTICULAR HOME ON THAT LOT.
BUT YOU'RE EVEN MORE LIMITED IN THAT FACTOR, TOO.
SO, A TWO STOREY TYPICALLY CAN'T BE ON A LOT.
THAT'S SMALL BECAUSE IT NEEDS A LARGER LAND.
SO, IT'S NOT JUST A DECISION THAT WE'RE MAKING FOR YOU.
SO THAT'S THE BIGGER ISSUE THAT I SEE HERE, I AGREE.
ALSO, IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BRIGHT COLORS.
YOU WANT BRIGHT COLORS THROUGH THERE WITH YOUR CARIBBEAN THEME.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY CARIBBEAN ARCHITECTURE? BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT KINDS.
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SO, THE BRIGHT THEMES, BRIGHT COLORS, IF THERE ARE ANY.I DON'T THINK OUR RENDERINGS HAVE ANY BRIGHT COLORS.
AND I WISH THAT THEY HAD DONE A BETTER JOB WITH THE PICTURES ON THE ARCHITECT'S LETTER.
BECAUSE HE COULD HAVE PICKED SOME GREAT EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT HAD COLORS AND STUFF, I GUESS.
IN HOMES DOWN THERE, AND TYPICALLY WITH THIS FIELD THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH, IT'S MORE OF A BEACH OCEAN TYPE THEME. SO, THOSE WOULD BE KIND OF SOME OF THE COLORS WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GET CLOSER TO.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE REALLY WANT A LOT OF THE REALLY BRIGHT YELLOWS AND PINKS AND BLUES.
UM, OR SOMEPLACE SIMILAR TO THAT.
THE MILDER BABY BLUES AND LIGHTER GREENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S NOT. YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT FITS UP HERE AT ALL.
NO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN WE GO BACK TO THE COVERED PARKING? IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU FEEL THAT YOU CAN'T ACHIEVE THE 50%? I MEAN, IN THE GRAND SCHEME, IF YOU COUNT HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THAT YOU HAVE ON THE MULTIFAMILY PORTION OF THE CAPRI, IT'S REALLY NOT ADDING THAT MANY MORE.
AND LOOKING AT YOUR PLAN, I FEEL THAT YOU COULD ACHIEVE THAT.
IS IT A COST FACTOR? WE COULD DEFINITELY ACHIEVE IT.
I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY WAS TRYING TO DO WAS, AGAIN, KIND OF KEEP WITH THAT CARIBBEAN THEME.
AND SO WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, LIKE SALE SHADE COVERS AND PUT THEM OVER A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THE WHOLE LOOK OF EVERYTHING.
SO, IF WE GO WITH TRYING TO TO STICK WITH THE MORE OF A CARIBBEAN LOOK.
OUR COST GOES DRAMATICALLY HIGHER THAN FOLKS THAT WOULD JUST PUT IN SOME REAL BASIC COVERED PARKING.
SO THAT WAS OUR REQUEST FOR THAT WAS JUST TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THINGS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE OPTIONS THAT OTHER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE IN A MORE MODERN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM BECAUSE IT WILL CHANGE THE LOOK AND FEEL OF OUR, OUR COMPLEX.
SO WE WANTED THE PARKING TO KIND OF LOOK MORE LIKE THE BUILDINGS AND HAVE AND CARRY OVER THAT THEME.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PARKING.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT WAS MET? UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAD ANYTHING FINALIZED WHEN IT WAS 75% AT THAT TIME.
YEAH, AT THAT TIME, WE HADN'T WORKED ON THE PARKING.
WE WERE WORKING MORE ON THE INTERNAL ASPECTS OF THE BUILDING AND THE MEP AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOME GOOD CARRYOVER ON WATER CONSERVATION AND HVAC SYSTEMS THAT WOULD AND REFLECTIVE WINDOWS.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO HELP THE BUILDING OPERATIONALLY WITH ENERGY AND WATER.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU'RE AT 40% WE PREVIOUSLY AT 75, IT'S OBVIOUSLY TO YOUR BENEFIT THAT WE WENT TO 50, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. BUT YOU WERE NOWHERE NEAR THE 75 BEFORE THAT, SO THERE WAS NO REDUCTION.
AGAIN, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WAS PLANNED, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REDUCED ANYTHING WAS WHEN WE GOT TO THAT POINT, WE REALIZED THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING.
OUR ARCHITECTS ARE GOOD ARCHITECTS THAT DO A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY STUFF.
BUT THEY WEREN'T THINKING THAT FAR AHEAD EITHER.
IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION MORE OF JUST A COMMENT.
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SO, I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT'S A VALUE.EVEN IF YOU ADD THE ADDITIONAL 10% THAT YOU CAN RECOUP AND COST EVENTUALLY DOWN THE ROAD.
I LIKE THE FACT THAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO STICK WITH A THEME, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, ESPECIALLY AS A HOMEOWNER AND TAXPAYER HERE IN ANNA, BUT I FEEL THAT 10% IS REALLY NOT ASKING FOR MUCH MORE.
COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'VE GOT ONE.
SO, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS YOU'RE ASKING FOR REDUCTION IN PARKING, SOME CHANGES TO ARCHITECTURAL MATERIALS AND WHAT YOU CAN USE OR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AS ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSING NUMBERS, THE, FOR REPEATING.
ARE YOU GUYS OFFSETTING THAT WITH ANYTHING TO SAY? HEY, YOU KNOW, GIVE US A BREAK HERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND ADD IN MORE PARKS OR MORE TRAILS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE UPGRADED A BUNCH OF THE, UH, AMUSEMENTS.
WE'VE ALSO UPSCALED THE TRAILS TO A LARGER SIZE AND WE'VE ADDED A LOT MORE BENCHES AND BOLLARDS AND LIGHTING AND THAT KIND OF THING TO MAKE IT AS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AS WE CAN.
SO, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THOSE CAN KIND OF ENJOY, UM, THE ATMOSPHERE AND.
WHILE THEY'RE OUT THERE WALKING WITH THEIR KIDS OR DOGS OR WHATEVER.
SO, WE ARE TRYING TO BEEF UP A BUNCH OF THINGS TO MAKE IT A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE.
COMING OFF HIS QUESTION, ISN'T THIS A PRIVATE BEACH, THOUGH ONLY TO THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE THERE IN THAT AREA? AND HOW ABOUT THE TRAILS? THE TRAILS ARE ALL THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY'RE OPEN TO WHOEVER WANTS TO COME AND USE THEM.
IT IS PRIVATE, BUT IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO, WE ARE REALLY HOPING TO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY COME TO THE LAGOON.
I SAW ON THE RENDITIONS THEY HAD PRIVATE ON ONE SIDE AND PUBLIC ACCESS ON THE OTHER.
YEAH. ON THE FINAL PLATS FOR ANNA CAPRI PHASES 1A, 1B, 1C THERE ARE PUBLIC TRAILS, SO THEIR PRIVATE HOA LOTS HAVE PUBLIC EASEMENTS ON THEM SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO BE ACCESSED BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AND THEN SAME THING WITH THE LAGUNA DRIVE IS A PUBLIC EASEMENT.
SO, THE UPGRADES THAT TO THE AMENITIES LIKE THE BENCHES AND THE WATER FEATURES OR ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE UPGRADING, ARE THOSE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? YES, THOSE ARE ON THE HOA OWNED LOTS THAT ARE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY SPEAKER CARDS.
OKAY. I'M NOT A FAN OF THE HORIZONTAL SIDING, THE BOARD AND BATTEN, THE SIDING PANEL.
THE COLOR BRIGHT COLOR SCHEME OVER TIME.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO LOOK GOOD EITHER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:24 P.M.
AND CONFINE ALL THE COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION AND STAFF.
UM, WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN BUILD WITH.
NO, I'M SAYING THAT LETTER HE SENT SAYING CHANGING THE.
ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES USING HORIZONTAL SIDING.
SPEAKER. LAUREN, CAN YOU PUT THE PICTURE BACK UP? THE ARCHITECTURAL.
THANK YOU. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PAGE THAT WAS JUST ON? ONE MORE.
THE SIDING INSTEAD OF DORMERS.
THE BOARD AND BATTEN THE SIDING PANEL.
I JUST THINK THEY START LOOKING OLD AFTER A WHILE.
AND IN TEN YEARS I'M THINKING TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
NOT RIGHT NOW. WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING IT, IT'S ALL PRETTY AND NEW.
WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WELL, AND THAT WOULD BE AN HOA THING.
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THE HOA WOULD HAVE TO.YEAH, I GET THAT. THAT'S FOR THE BUILDER.
YEAH, I KNOW IT'S UP TO THE HOMEOWNER TO DO IT, BUT.
RIGHT. WE ALL LOVE OUR HOA, DON'T WE? BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR THE MULTIFAMILY.
THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, BUT EVEN STILL, IT'D BE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
YEAH. TAKING CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE ON THAT.
BUT I THINK WHAT SHE'S GETTING AT AND I KIND OF AGREE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE TAKING AWAY LIKE WHAT DEFINES AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE A CHIMNEY DOES WHERE WE'RE STRIKING THAT AND WE'RE ADDING IN.
OR YOU CAN USE HORIZONTAL SIDING OR BOARD AND BATTEN.
THERE'S NO CHIMNEY. NOW THAT'S AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE THAT THEY CAN PULL FROM.
AND WHAT THEY'RE ADDING IN I THINK IS NOT ON PAR WITH WHAT WE'RE LOSING.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT'S LIKE IT'S A DOWNGRADE.
SO, WHAT I LOOK AT IS GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND YOU SEE THE HOUSES THAT ARE ALL BRICK, AND THEN YOU SEE THE COUPLE THAT THE HOUSES, THEY PUT THE SIDING ON, THE ONE END OF IT.
IT'S NOT AS APPEALING TO THE EYE AS IT IS THE BRICK HOUSE.
SO, I THINK BY CHANGING IT, YOU'RE MAKING IT MAYBE MORE CARIBBEAN STYLE, BUT YOU CAN DO THAT WITH OTHER THINGS WITH WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DON'T LIKE. I'LL MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE HOUSING LIKE I GET BECAUSE YOU WANT LIKE UNIQUENESS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND YOU DON'T WANT IT.
COOKIE CUTTER AND LOOKING THE SAME.
SO I'M OPPOSED TO LOWERING THAT STANDARD.
THE ORDINANCE IS EVERY FOUR AND I THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN THAT WE CHANGE IT HERE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE IT DOWN THE ROAD FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
YEAH, YEAH, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I AGREE WITH THAT ONE. AND ALSO, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN AS WELL.
YEAH. THE PARKING IN THE IN THE REPETITION IS PARKING AT 50% IS REASONABLE.
YEAH. AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REPETITION.
YEAH. AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MOVE IT FROM 4 TO 3.
NO, NO WE'VE ALREADY HAD MULTIPLE BUILDERS IN HERE DO JUST FINE WITH SALES.
HASN'T HAD PROBLEMS. THEY'VE NOT DECLINED.
IF ANYTHING, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO SELL OUT COMPLETELY IN ALL PHASES.
SO YEAH, I THINK THEY WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM HERE.
AND IF THEY SELL OUT THEN THEY'VE GOT SEVERAL PHASES COMING UP THAT THEY CAN BUILD IN AND THEY CAN HOLD OFF. GO BACK ONE SCREEN.
SO, THE ARCHITECT ARCHITECTURAL IF I CAN GET THAT OUT.
SHOULD STAY. SHOULD NOT CHANGE, SHOULD NOT BE STRICKEN.
IF YOU DON'T STRIKE THAT AND YOU ADD THE SECOND PART IS THAT THEY JUST WANT TO SWAP THAT OUT.
THE PART THAT STRUCK OUT IS WHAT THEY ARE REMOVING AND REPLACING WITH THE PART THAT'S UNDERLINED.
I SECOND. AND I'VE GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER NYLEC.
ALL IN FAVOR? . MOTION PASSES.
UNANIMOUS. BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
WE LOST ROSS ALTOBELLI LAST MONTH.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO SAY SEE YOU LATER TO SELENA.
BOTH OF WHICH I THINK HAVE BEEN IN A REALLY GOOD ASSET TO THE CITY.
GOOD LUCK WITH YOU. GOOD LUCK.
IF NOT, COME BACK AND WATCH IT ANYWAY, BUT I WILL.
MOTION TO ADJOURN AT 6:29 P.M.
IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER NYLEC.
UNANIMOUS. MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 6:29 P.M.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.