[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]
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>> THANK YOU. THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF VIENNA AND THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD OR MADE ON SEPTEMBER 26, 2023 IS 6:00 PM AND AN A MINUTES TO.
IT'S FULL COMPLEX COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED 120 WEST SEVENTH STREET TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ONCE AGAIN, WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON MY OPEN SESSION.
AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT AN OPINION SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM AND TURN THAT IN BEFORE WE GET THE MEETING STARTED THIS EVENING.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS WE WILL CALL ROW AND ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
I WILL DO THAT FIRST AND THEN THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE PARK'S BOARD WILL NEED TO CALL THEIR MEETING AS WELL.
CARED FOR THE RECORD, WE DO HAVE A FULL I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN ACTUALLY IS NOT WITH US THIS EVENING.
ALL OTHER MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
>> I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE PARKS BOARD.
>> THEY'LL CALL IT THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD MEETING TO ORDER AND WE HAVE FULCRUM.
>> THIS TIME I WILL GIVE AN INVOCATION, WILL FOLLOW WITH PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> HEAVENLY FATHER GOD, I JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.
LORD, I JUST COME TO YOU THIS EVENING AND JUST THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS UPON THIS COMMUNITY.
GOD, I PRAY THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT WE FURTHER GROW COLLECTIVELY AS A COMMUNITY THAT WE HELP ONE ANOTHER.
GOD THAT WE LOVE ON OUR NEIGHBORS THE WAY THAT YOU LOVE US, JESUS AND I JUST PRAY THAT WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, LIFT ONE ANOTHER UP IN TIMES OF NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND GOD, I JUST PRAY THAT ALL THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE AND THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE THIS EVENING THAT WE USE, YOUR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM AND ALL WE DO IN JESUS NAME, I PRAY, AMEN.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO NEIGHBORS COMMENTS AT THIS TIME,
[3. Neighbor Comments.]
ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM ON THIS MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.AS A REMINDER, WE DO ALLOW THREE MINUTES, FOUR NEIGHBORS COMMENTS, AND I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER FORM THIS EVENING FROM MR. JEFFRIES.
>> YES, THANK YOU MAYOR. I WOULD LOVE TO ANNOUNCE TONIGHT THAT THE HEART ASSOCIATION IS NOW FULLY UP AND RUNNING AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ART ASSOCIATION.
>> OUR VISION IS THAT WE CREATE A COMMUNITY IN WHICH RESIDENTS, SCHOOLS, AND BUSINESSES VALUE, SUPPORT, AND FULLY INTEGRATE ART INTO THE FABRIC OF CIVIC LIFE.
WAY WE LOOK TO DO THAT IS THROUGH THE CREATION AND APPRECIATION OF ART, THROUGH THE ACCESSIBLE AND DIVERSE PROGRAMS IN ANNA AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
>> THANK YOU, MR. RAY. APPRECIATE THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO REPORTS FOR RECEIVE REPORTS FROM
[4. Reports.]
STAFF OR THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTERESTS.I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY THIS EVENING OTHER THAN FOR THE CITY OF ANNA AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, ANISD, THIS IS HOMECOMING WEEK, SO A LOT OF ACTIVITIES, THEY HAD A PARADE LAST NIGHT.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE FOOTBALL GAME FRIDAY NIGHTS, SO EXCITING WEEK FOR OUR KIDDOS AND HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL GET OUT AND SUPPORT OUR KIDS THIS WEEK THAT'S ALL HAVE COUNSEL ANYTHING ELSE? NOW, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 5,
[5. Work Session.]
WHICH IS OUR WORK SESSION.THIS IS A JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND PARKS ADVISORY BOARD TO DISCUSS THE COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER. MR. HENDERSON?
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL AND PARKS ADVISORY BOARD.
WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING FORTH A PRESENTATION ON THE COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT PARKS ADVISORY BOARD HAS WORKED HARD OVER THE PAST MONTHS TO SERVE AS THE TASK FORCE FOR THIS COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER AND I THINK WE'VE REACHED A POINT WHERE WE ARE NOW COMFORTABLE BRINGING FORTH OUR RECOMMENDATION, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BASED OFF THE WORK OF THE TASK FORCE, AND SO THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME REALLY BEING ABLE TO PRESENT THIS BEFORE THE COUNCIL, THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD, AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO INTERIM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER,
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CRAIG PETERS, AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIRECTOR MARK MARTIAN OF WORK, DILIGENTLY FROM THE STAFF SIDE ON THIS PROJECT AND WITH THE TASK FORCE AND WE WILL DO THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, FEEDBACK.AS PART OF THIS IS INFORMATIONAL, BUT IT IS TO SHARE THE COLLECTIVE WORK OF THIS BODY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, RYAN. MAYOR COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PARK'S BOARD? HERE WE GO AHEAD TO TURN IT ON.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THIS PRESENTATION STARTED.
I'LL GO OVER A FEW THINGS AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MARK MARTIAN AND LET HIM REALLY TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK WITH THE TASK FORCE BECAUSE FROM THE STAFF SIDE, HE REALLY LED THOSE EFFORTS.
JUST GOING TO TOUCH ON THE PURPOSE TONIGHT, TALK ABOUT THE STATUS OF OUR BOND FUNDING THAT WE DO HAVE, AND THEN REALLY GET INTO THE RECREATION CENTER AS FAR AS THE MASTER PLANNING GUIDANCE, THE TASKFORCE, THEIR EFFORTS, AND THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT THEY SOUGHT, SOME OF THEIR INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS, THESE AREN'T NECESSARILY FINAL.
THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD IS STILL WORKING ON SOME THINGS, SO BUT WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO GO AHEAD AND GET SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK COLLECTIVELY THROUGH JOINT WORKSHOP SO THAT THE TASK FORCE CAN MEET BACK UP AND FINISH UP EVERYTHING BEFORE GENERATING A FINAL PROJECT CHARTER, AND THEN WE WILL TOUCH ON SOME STAFF FINDINGS AND SOME STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN END LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL CONCEPT.
THE PURPOSE REALLY TONIGHT IS FOR YOU ALL TO COLLECTIVELY GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THIS.
OBVIOUSLY, THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD IS NOT JUST THE TASK FORCE FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT IT'S ALSO THE RECOMMENDING BODY THAT IT MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL REGARDING ALL PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECTS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET SOME FEEDBACK TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD TO GET A GOOD DRAFT PROJECT CHARTER TOGETHER THAT WOULD THEN COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
JUST SOME OF THE KEY DISCUSSION POINTS TONIGHT IS THE RESULTS OF THESE EFFORTS FROM THE TASK FORCE AND THEN LOOKING TOWARDS WHAT WE WANT TO DO AS FAR AS SCOPE, PHASING AND BUDGETING.
WE CAN PUT THAT INFORMATION INTO A PROJECT CHARTER.
I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE BOND LANGUAGE.
BUT THERE WERE THREE PROPOSITIONS ON 2021 BOND AND ONE SPECIFICALLY WAS FOR PARKS, TRAILS, RECREATION, AND SPORTS, THAT INCLUDED $28 MILLION IN FUNDING.
THE LANGUAGE DID SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT IT INCLUDED THE CONSIDERATION OF PLANNING, DESIGN, AND PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR AN INDOOR RECREATION FACILITY.
NOW THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY.
IF YOU READ THIS LANGUAGE, THIS IS JUST GIVING A BROAD RANGE OF OPTIONS THAT THIS MONEY CAN BE SPENT ON.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND SOMETHING ON EVERY SINGLE POTENTIAL THING.
BUT THIS GIVES US A BASE AND OVERVIEW, IF YOU WILL, OF WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SHOULD, GENERALLY SPEND ALL ALL OF THESE BOND FUNDS ON.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATUS OF OUR PROJECTS AND OUR FUNDING, OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE BIG ONES THAT WE FINISHED THIS SUMMER WAS THE SPLASH PAD THAT PROJECTS COMPLETE.
YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF OTHER WORK SITE OR CREEK, INCLUDING THE SKATE PARK, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE ALSO STARTED WORK ON THE CONGRUENT TRAIL.
WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS THAT I THINK ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT.
OBVIOUSLY. THIS PROJECT, THE COMMUNITY REC CENTER, WE DID FUND GO AHEAD AND FUND SOME DESIGN FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED EARLIER THIS MONTH, AND THEN BRYANT PARK IMPROVEMENTS ARE ALSO THERE'S SOME MONEY IN THERE FOR THAT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, WE HAVE JUST UNDER 17 MILLION IN TOTAL BOND FUNDS REMAINING.
FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WHEN I LOOK AT THAT NUMBER, I LIKE TO JUST TO BE CONSERVATIVE, I LIKE TO SAY WE'VE GOT ABOUT 16 MILLION JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR CONTINGENCIES WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THINGS, WE ALWAYS WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT IN A PROJECT BUDGET FOR CONTINGENCIES, UNKNOWNS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A ROUND NUMBER OF REMAINING FUNDS TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, I WOULD USE THAT 16 NUMBER 16 FLAT.
THAT GIVES US ABOUT JUST UNDER 1 MILLION.
LEFT TO DEAL WITH SOME UNFORESEEN THINGS THAT COULD OCCUR ON A RANGE OF PROJECTS.
THE LAST THING I'LL JUST TOUCH ON HERE IS JUST WHAT
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THE PARKS MASTER PLAN SAID ABOUT THE COMMUNITY REC CENTER AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MARK.IF I KNOW SOME OF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AND SOME OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE WENT THROUGH A PRETTY SERIOUS AND THOROUGH PROCESS DEVELOPING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A DOWNTOWN MASTERPLAN, AND THEN A PARKS MASTER PLAN AS WELL, AND THAT DOCUMENT IDENTIFIED A REC CENTER SIZE OF A LITTLE OVER 25,000 SQUARE FEET.
AT THAT TIME, IT ESTIMATED THAT IN 2023, CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE 15-20 MILLION.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2020.
WE ALL KNOW THAT SO I WOULD NOT CLAIM TO THAT 15-20 MILLION NUMBER.
AT THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER SOMETHING MORE IN THE $25-$30 MILLION RANGE.
JUST BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH INFLATION AND COST INCREASES, FOR THAT SIZE FACILITY.
BUT IT HITS THOSE KEY ELEMENTS, TO TALKS ABOUT A GYMNASIUM SPACE THAT COULD BE DIVISIBLE INTO TWO GYMS. WEIGHT ROOM, CARDIO AREAS, MULTI-PURPOSE SPACES, GROUP EXERCISE ROOM, AND A PREP CATERING KITCHEN, JUST AS THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT THE FACILITY COULD POTENTIALLY INCLUDE.
NONE OF THE ESTIMATES, OPERATIONAL COSTS, AND REVENUES FOR THE REC CENTER, WHEN YOU BALANCE THAT OUT, SO MEMBERSHIPS AND FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY'RE SET, VERSUS THE COST TO OPERATE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN ADDITIONAL SUBSIDY NEEDED FROM THE CITY OF HERE 300-500,000.
I WOULD RECOMMEND TO BE CONSERVATIVE THAT WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT FOR A FACILITY THAT SIZE IS PROBABLY SOMETHING CLOSER TO $750,000.
OUR MARKET, CERTAINLY MORE OF AN EXPERT ON THAT THAN I AM, BUT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST FACED WITH THE REALITY IS.
AGAIN, THIS WAS THREE YEARS AGO, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE WORLD CHANGING AS MUCH AS IT'S CHANGED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, IN THE PREVIOUS ALMOST 40 YEARS OF MY LIFE, SO A LOT HAS CHANGED.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO MARK, AND THEN LET HIM REALLY DIVE INTO THE EFFORTS OF THE TASK FORCE, AND THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE'RE SEEING.
>> THANK YOU. MR. PETERS, MAYOR, COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PARK BOARD.
MY NAME IS MARTIN MARSHA, AND DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE SECOND MOST EXCITING PROJECTS THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF SINCE I ARRIVED HERE AT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROCESS, IN DEVELOPING PROJECT CHARTER FOR THE LIBRARY.
A LOT OF NEIGHBOR INPUT, AND WE HAD A TASK FORCE THAT HELPED US DEVELOP A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU-ALL FOR A PROJECT CHARTER.
THE PROJECT CHARTER IS A RULES OF THE ROAD.
IT DEFINES WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.
WE STAY ON TARGET, ALL OF OUR MEETINGS AND CONVERSATIONS REFER BACK TO THAT CHARTER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH DOING.
IT WORKS SO WELL THAT WHEN WE TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT DOING THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT, AND YOU APPOINTED THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD TO BE THAT TASK FORCE.
I'M PROUD TO REPORT THAT TO THE PARK BOARD, HAS WORKED VERY HARD AND DONE REALLY WELL.
GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE ASKING FOR, PART OF OUR CHARGE WAS TO EVALUATE WAS IN THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, AND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL ACCURATE IF ANYTHING HAS CHANGED, WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY AND MARK THAT.
WE ENGAGE WITH PROJECT ADVOCATES, TO HELP US WITH THIS PROJECT.
THEY ALSO HELPED US IDENTIFY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FIRMS WE EVALUATED FOR PART OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT, AND THE TASKFORCE SELECTED PROS CONSULTING TO HELP US WITH THAT.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS, IN THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY IS WHEN WE DID THE CONSULTANT INTERVIEWS, AND THAT PROCESS WAS NEW TO A LOT OF FOLKS ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS WITH THEM, INTERVIEWING THE DIFFERENT FIRMS, INTERVIEWING AND SCORING THEM, AND THEN SELECTING THE FIRM THAT WE'D BE WORKING WITH.
WE HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC FORUM VERY QUICKLY THEREAFTER IN MARCH. WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT.
PEOPLE WOULD, NEIGHBORS COULD COME AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO RANK SOME OF THE ITEMS. PRIMARILY THAT FIRST MEETING, WAS TO REALLY ESTABLISH WHAT IT WAS WE WERE DOING AND TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE SO THAT ALL OF HER NEIGHBORS UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS.
THEN WE HAD A REALLY FUN DAY OF GOING AND TOURING AREA RECREATION CENTERS THAT WERE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WITH AN EXCEPTION, ONE OF THEM WAS SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER, WE WENT TO THE APEX THAT ARE MCKINNEY TO SEE WHAT THAT FULL-SERVICE, ALL OF THE AMENITIES, ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES LOOKED LIKE TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST, WITH SOME OF THE ONES WE SAW AN ALLEN, ONES WE SAW IN RICHARDSON, WENT TO TOWN LIKE CENTER ALSO IN MCKINNEY.
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WE DONE A PRIMER BEFORE THAT, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS WE WERE LOOKING FOR.WE MET WITH STAFF AT THESE FACILITIES, THE TASKFORCE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK INFORMATION THAT HELP FORM THEIR OPINIONS ON SOME OF THE THINGS.
WE DID A SECOND, PUBLIC INPUT EVENT AT THE EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA, AND WHAT WAS GREAT ABOUT THAT, IS THAT WHAT KNEW OUR TARGET AUDIENCE WAS GOING TO BE FAMILIES WITH YOUNGER CHILDREN.
AT THE EASTER EVENTS, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME GOOD INPUT FROM THAT.
THEN WHEN WE HELD OUR TOUCH A TRUCK EVENT IN MAY, WHICH WAS A ROUSING SUCCESS, EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS WITH A LOT OF FUN.
WE WERE ABLE TO ALSO GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN-PERSON.
WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT IS, OF COURSE, IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN A SURVEY BECAUSE YOU'RE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE CONVERSATION AND CLARIFY THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, SO THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
WE RAN AN ONLINE SURVEY FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, BEGINNING OF MARCH GOING THROUGH JUNE.
THEN IN JULY IS WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON THE DATA REVIEW, TO FIGURE OUT DOES THIS ALIGN WITH THE MASTER PLAN? WHAT'S DIFFERENT, WHAT'S CHANGED? WHAT ARE THE RANKINGS AND ORDERS OF THE THINGS THAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING THEY WANTED? AND THEN WHEN WE STARTED IN AUGUST WORKING ON THE PROJECT CHARTER DISCUSSION, DEVELOPING THAT CHARTER.
IT'S AT THAT POINT, THAT WE WERE DETERMINING, WE'VE IDENTIFIED A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION, AND WE ARE AT THE ONE YARD LINE WITH ALMOST COMPLETING THIS, BUT MR. PETERS SAID WE HAD SOME OPTIONS TO CONSIDER, SO WE STARTED EVALUATING THOSE OPTIONS AS WELL.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THE PUBLIC INPUT RESULTS LOOKED LIKE.
THEIR GRAPHS, SO THEY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
I WON'T SPEND QUITE SO MUCH TIME FOR EACH ONE OF THEM.
BUT IT WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC MAKEUP OF THE AGE GROUPS ARE NEIGHBORS THAT WE GOT THE RESULTS BACK FROM, AND WHAT THEIR HOUSEHOLDS ARE LIKE.
YOU CAN SEE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE QUITE A LARGE NUMBER OF YOUNG FAMILIES, AND OUR COMMUNITY AND YOUNG FAMILIES THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROCESS.
THIS IS HARD. THIS IS ALMOST LIKE PICKING OUT YOUR FAVORITE CHILD.
ALL OF THESE AMENITIES ARE COOL.
THEY'RE ALL THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE, BUT WE ASKED OUR NEIGHBORS TO LET US KNOW WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO YOUR HOUSEHOLD.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE WITH THE GREEN, THOSE ARE RANKING THE THING SAYING, YES, THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
YOU CAN SEE THE INDOOR RUNNING, WALKING TRACK AND GYMNASIUM, THE CARDIO EQUIPMENT AND FREE WEIGHTS, THE EXERCISE ROOM EVENTS.
BUT THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WERE MOST IMPORTANT AND THEY WERE FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE LEARNED IN THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS AS WELL.
THE BLUE BARS ARE THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAID, NO, THOSE WEREN'T THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS, AND SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT REVERSE EFFECTS.
IF YOU GO BACKWARDS, E-SPORTS AND GAMING AREA, AND I THINK WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT DEDICATED KITCHEN FACILITIES, GYMNASTICS, INDOOR TURF AREA OF MEETING ROOMS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS.
AGAIN, THIS WAS FAIRLY SOON CONSISTENT WELL, WITH THE PARKS MASTER PLANNING PROCESS.
THESE WERE WHERE WE ASKED NEIGHBORS TO GIVE US OUR FIRST CHOICE, SECOND CHOICE, AND THIRD CHOICE, ON WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM, WHEN IT COMES TO PROGRAMS AND SERVICES OUT OF THAT FACILITY.
NOW WITH A LIBRARY, THE FACILITY WAS DESIGNED FROM THE INSIDE OUT, WITH WHAT IT WAS THAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT WHEN IT CAME TO PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.
THIS REALLY HELPS US INFORM IN THE PROJECT CHARTER WHAT THE SPACE ALLOCATION SHOULD BE OR THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED TO YOU TO BE, FOR EACH OF THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. GROUP FITNESS PROGRAMS AND YOUTH SPORTS, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GYMNASIUMS AND WHATNOT SENIOR PROGRAMS, THAT'S ALL OPEN MULTI-PURPOSE TYPE SPACES, ART PROGRAMS, ADULT SPORTS LEAGUES, AND OF COURSE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INDOOR HERE, DANCE LESSONS, AND THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS DROPPING BABYSITTING, CHILDCARE IS ALWAYS A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE SO THAT WE CAN TAKE DOWN BARRIERS FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY TO BE ABLE TO EXERCISE AND BE FIT.
YOU CAN SEE HERE HOW IT RANKED.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENCE WITH THE PARKS MASTER PLANNING, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO SPACE ALLOCATIONS AND WHAT'S LIKELY WITH THE FACILITY SIZE, NOT SUBSTANTIALLY, MAYBE AROUND 10% CHANGE IN THAT, AND MR. PETERS, DID A GREAT JOB REFLECTING THAT TOO AND SOME OF THE CONCEPTS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.
THIS IS THE QUESTION ON WHAT STAFF SHOULD DO, AND WHAT THE EMPHASIS WE SHOULD PLACE ON THE PLANNING FOR THE RECREATION CENTER? OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE THAT FIRST AND SECOND CHOICES COMBINED THE FEES AND COST TO USE WAS RANKED HIGHEST, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IS THAT FOLKS WANT A LOW BARRIER ENTRY WHEN IT COMES TO THE COST OF PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM, WHETHER IT'S A MEMBERSHIP COST OF CLASSES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WHENEVER YOU HAVE A LOWER-COST ON THOSE THINGS, YOU'RE NOT GENERATING AS MUCH REVENUE.
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THE SUBSIDY BETWEEN YOUR REVENUE AND YOUR EXPENSES IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LARGER.IN STAFF WAS EVALUATING SOME OF THESE THINGS, THAT WAS A MAJOR CONSIDERATION ON TIMING AND WHATNOT.
THE CLASSES AND PROGRAMS OFFERED WERE REALLY IMPORTANT FUN FEATURES AND AMENITIES.
WE WANT THIS TO BE SIMILAR TO THE LIBRARY, TO COMMUNITY LIVING ROOM WITH A DIFFERENT, MORE ACTIVE PURPOSE, SO IT SHOULD BE FUN, IT SHOULD BE EXCITING, IT SHOULD BE ACTIVE IN WHATEVER SPACE IT IS THAT WOULD CREATE AND THE MAXIMIZING THE COST AND MINIMIZING THE SUBSIDY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE EXPECTED.
WHEN MR. PETERS WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE MASTER PLAN ABOUT WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED, THAT 300-500,000, WHICH IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO 750,000 FOR THE LARGER FACILITY, THAT IS THE SUBSIDY.
THE COSTS WOULD BE HIGHER, THE REVENUE WOULD BE HIGHER, BUT THAT'S THE DELTA, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR PRICES LOWER.
WHAT THIS IS IS A GENERAL SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE.
CERTAINLY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE OUR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO WEIGH IN WITH THEIR THOUGHTS GOING THROUGH THESE.
BUT THESE WERE IDENTIFIED AS THINGS THAT WERE REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE SPORTS COURTS FOR VOLLEYBALL, BASKETBALL.
SOMETIMES YOU JUST NEED AN OPEN GYM SPACE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PICKUP GAME.
WE NEED TO RUN CLINICS THAT ARE RECREATION.
WE'RE BUILDING A WONDERFUL PICKLEBALL FACILITY WITH NINE COURTS, EIGHT REGULAR COURTS, ONE ACCESSIBLE COURT.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO DO THIS.
WHEN IN THE WINTER, WE WANT TO KEEP IT GOING SO IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DOING THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS OUTDOORS AND ACTIVATING OUR PARKS WITH RECREATION TEAM.
WE HAVE HAD TO CANCEL SOME OF THOSE BECAUSE OF WEATHER. WE DON'T LIKE THAT.
WE WANT TO KEEP GOING. WE'LL HAVE FUN.
EVERYONE LOOKS FORWARD TO IT, BUT THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE WAY WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TODAY VERSUS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.
MULTI PURPOSE ROOMS, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED AND WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THOSE.
IT'S LIKE STORAGE AND CLOSETS.
WE NEED A PLACE TO BUILD COMMUNITY.
WE NEED A PLACE FOR NEIGHBORS TO GATHER FOR ALL DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES.
IN A FACILITY LIKE THIS, YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT FAMILY REUNIONS, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, WEDDING RECEPTIONS.
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ALSO TAKE PLACE IN THESE TYPES OF SPACES.
DEDICATED CHILDCARE IS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH.
THIS IS NOT DAYCARE. THERE ARE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS THAT US AS A CITY AND AS A RECREATION CENTER THAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO TIME LIMITS ON HOW OFTEN AND HOW LONG A CHILD COULD BE THEIR AGE OF THOSE CHILDREN THAT CAN COME INTO THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES.
USE CAN BE QUITE LIMITED AT CERTAIN TIMES.
WELL, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IS CREATING THAT SPACE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, WHETHER THAT'S DAY 1 OR DAY 401.
A COUPLE OF THE FACILITIES THAT WE TOURED, THE APEX CONTINUED TO OFFER A SERVICE LIKE THAT.
BUT IN RICHARDSON, THEY WERE NOT OFFERING THAT SERVICE ANY LONGER AT THE FACILITY THAT WE TOURED.
JUST WASN'T QUITE THE DEMAND AND THE COST WAS PRETTY HIGH. THE CATERING KITCHEN.
WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL GRADE KITCHEN.
IF SOME OF YOU WILL RECALL DURING THE LIBRARY PROJECT, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP QUITE A BIT.
BEING ABLE TO DO DEMONSTRATIONS, HAVING CATERERS COME IN TO BE ABLE TO DO MEALS, MAKING SURE THAT OUR CODE COMPLIANCE TEAM WHEN THEY COME AND DO THEIR INSPECTIONS, THAT IT MEETS ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, A LITTLE BIT MORE INDUSTRIAL.
THE TYPES OF SERVICES ARE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT WE FOUND IN THE MASTER PLAN.
IS VERY TRADITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN A COMMUNITY RECREATION TYPE FACILITY.
THEY USE SPORTS, FITNESS AND DANCE.
BEING ABLE TO RENT THE COURTS FOR PRACTICES OR GAMES AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
INSTRUCTIONS AND TRAINING AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS AND SENIOR PROGRAMS. AS YOU KNOW, OUR SENIOR PROGRAMS HAVE REALLY GROWN, AND WOULD TAKE A LOT OF FUN TRIPS, WILL GO A LOT OF FUN PLACES.
WE'RE LIKE HERMIT CRABS, WE'LL TAKE UP WHATEVER MEETING SPACES WHERE WE CAN TO DO ALL THEIR ACTIVITIES.
IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A SPACE WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DEDICATED TO THOSE SUBS ACTIVITIES.
THAT ALL CAME OUT IN THIS PROCESS. YOU'RE GOOD?
>> BREVITY IS NOT MY STRONG POINT, SO I WILL CONTINUE TALKING.
HERE'S WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AFTER ALL OF THESE AMAZING CONVERSATIONS AND ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IS THAT THE TASK FORCE HAS DEVELOPED AN OVERALL RECREATION CENTER SCOPE, AND IT'S IN LINE WITH BOTH THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT IT HASN'T BEEN IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME, AS WELL AS WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE MASTER PLAN.
I WANT TO COMMEND THE COMMUNITY AND THE TASK FORCE IN PARTICULAR FOR TAKING THIS ON SO EARLY BECAUSE SO MANY TIMES MASTER PLANS SIT ON A SHELF FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE MAJOR THINGS GET ACTIVATED AND YOU'LL SEE MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED AT THE TIME AND WHAT ISN'T.
WE DIDN'T, SO THIS IS REALLY GOOD.
THE SCOPE THAT WE FOUND HERE IS THAT A ROUGHLY 25,000 SQUARE
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FOOT FACILITY SPACE IS NEEDED TO MEET THOSE PROGRAMMING NEEDS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED.EACH ONE OF THOSE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT'S REQUIRED TO OPERATE THOSE PROGRAMS. BOTH IN OUR OWN FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR TEAMMATES AND OTHER CITIES THAT ARE RUNNING THESE FACILITIES, I HAVE OPERATED THESE FACILITIES.
OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, JEFFREY HAS ALSO OPERATED THESE FACILITIES.
A LOT OF EXPERTISE WAS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS DOWN VERY SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT'S REQUIRED.
THAT 25,000 SQUARE FOOT, WE BELIEVE IS ADEQUATE TO SERVE OUR NEEDS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION COST OR THE STAFFING LEVELS REQUIRED FOR A FACILITY OF THIS SIZE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS, IS THAT WE WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND ENSURE THAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE BEING MET WITH THE FIRE STATION COMING ONLINE, THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE BEING HIRED FOR THAT.
THE LIBRARY THAT WE'RE AT THE 100% CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT COMPLETION PHASE, GETTING READY TO BID THAT PROJECT HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO WITH AN ANTICIPATED OPENING DATE OF THE LATE WINTER SPRING OF 25, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE STAFF TO OPERATE THAT.
THOSE ARE COSTS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT CAPACITY AND I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND OUR FINANCE TEAM OR BUDGET MANAGERS, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A RESPONSIBLE PROCESS.
IT'S REALLY A FORWARD-LOOKING, AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION.
IN THE LIBRARY PROJECT CHARTER, IT DEVELOPED THAT RULES OF THE ROAD THAT SAID THIS IS THE TYPE OF FACILITY WE WANT, THE TYPE OF PROGRAMMING THAT WE WANT, THE TYPE OF SERVICES THAT WE WANT, THE SIZE OF THE SPACES THAT WE WANT, ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
THE PROJECT CHARTER OF THE TASK FORCE HAS BEEN DEVELOPING FOR THIS IS THE SAME.
HOWEVER, WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS A MULTI-PHASED APPROACH AND FOR THAT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT CHARTER.
RIGHT NOW, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE INITIAL ASSUMPTION THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUDGET TO CREATE THE FACILITY SO WE'RE JUST DESIGNING IT AND LETTING THE PROJECT CHARTER COME ALONG AND DEVELOP AS ORGANICALLY AS POSSIBLE THAT WOULD INFORM THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
NOW WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO GET STARTED ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
PHASE 1 WOULD BE A FACILITY THAT, MR. PETERSON THINK HE'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HERE SHORTLY.
THEN PHASE 2 IS THAT'S MORE THE FULL KIT AND CABOODLE THAT HAS ADDITIONAL BASKETBALL COURTS AND ELEVATED WALKING TRACKS, CHILDCARE, LOCKER ROOMS WITH SHOWERS.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE WONDERFUL.
THE OVERHEAD COST IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ONGOING AND SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT REVENUE WE CAN GENERATE AND THE SUBSIDY THAT WE WOULD NEED TO OPERATE THOSE THINGS.
LIKE WITH ANY BUSINESS, AND IT IS A BUSINESS WHERE THERE'S SPECIAL REVENUE ENTERPRISE FUND IT.
HOWEVER, THAT WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH THIS COMPETITIVE, OR IT'S NOT MARKET COMPETITIVE.
IT'S STILL A BUSINESS MINDSET THAT YOU HAVE WHERE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE MORE OF A REGIONAL DRAW, TO DRAW IN MORE CUSTOMERS TO GENERATE THE REVENUE AND THE SERVICES AND WHATNOT, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT WILL BE ATTRACTIVE TO DRAW THAT AND MAKE IT WORTH THEIR WHILE ON THEIR INVESTMENT.
IT'S A BALANCING ACT BETWEEN HOW MANY AMENITIES YOU HAVE AND ALL THE SERVICES YOU OFFER AND WHEN YOU OFFER THOSE SERVICES.
WE BELIEVE THAT HAVING A TWO-PHASE PROJECT WILL ACCOMPLISH THAT FOR YOU.
NOW I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO MR. PETERSON.
>> THANK YOU, MARK. MAYOR COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PARK BOARD.
I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS CONCEPT THE STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER.
[NOISE] JUST A FLOOR PLAN LAYOUT OF ONE POTENTIAL WAY TO DO AN INITIAL PHASE.
WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOU AND PUT THIS UP HERE TONIGHT, MOSTLY FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES SO YOU ALL CAN LOOK AT IT AND TALK THROUGH IT, AND IT MIGHT SPARK SOME IDEAS OR SOME THOUGHTS THAT WE COULD THEN GET YOUR FEEDBACK.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS REALLY A CONDENSED VERSION OF A RECREATION CENTER THAT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED USING SOMEWHERE AROUND HALF OF THOSE REMAINING BOND DOLLARS.
OF THAT 16 MILLION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, NOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE FOR PROBABLY AROUND EIGHT MILLION.
OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF DESIGN WORK TO GET A GOOD COST ESTIMATE TO YOU, BUT JUST AS AROUND PLANNING NUMBER.
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WOULD BE [NOISE] A MULTI-PURPOSE FOR CORE.
BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, THOSE THINGS WITH A WALKING PATH THAT'S ACTUALLY AROUND IT ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
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THE WALKING PATH BEING ELEVATED IS DOWN LOW.ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, COULD WE MAKE THAT IN SUCH A WAY TO WHERE MAYBE WHEN THE WALKING PATH GETS ELEVATED, YOU CAN ACTUALLY ROTATE THE COURTS 90 DEGREES AND MAYBE WE CAN GET TWO COURTS IN THERE.
THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THROUGH A DESIGN PROCESS, WE CAN LOOK AT.
YOU HAVE ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT FITNESS CENTER, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THAT'S PROBABLY LOOKING LIKE A FITNESS CENTER AT A NICE HOTEL.
WOULD HAVE SOME MACHINE WEIGHTS, PROBABLY SOME DUMBBELLS AND SOME CARDIO EQUIPMENT.
BUT YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A FULL BLOWN WEIGHT ROOM.
THEN 1,200-1,300 SQUARE FOOT MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM THAT COULD BE DIVIDED INTO TWO 600 SQUARE FOOT SPACES AND THAT CAN BE USED FOR GROUP FITNESS CLASSES.
IT COULD BE RESERVED FOR GATHERINGS.
WHETHER IT'S A BRIDAL SHOWER OR A FAMILY REUNION, A BIRTHDAY PARTY, WIDE RANGE OF USES, BUT WOULD ALSO FUNCTION FOR OUR GROUP FITNESS COURSES OR SUMMER CAMPS.
ALL THE PROGRAMMING THAT OUR RECREATION FOLKS DO CAN BE DONE IN THERE [NOISE] WITH A SMALL KITCHEN AREA ATTACHED, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, SOME BASIC REST ROOMS, STORAGE AREA, AND AN OFFICE.
THIS IS A BASELINE FUNDAMENTAL BASIC RECREATION CENTER.
AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY JUST FOR DISCUSSION.
AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE COUNCIL AND THE PARK'S ADVISORY BOARD AND LET YOU ALL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION.
MARK AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND HELP PARTICIPATE AS NEEDED.
BUT THE GOAL TONIGHT IS TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL COLLECTIVELY SO THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS A FINAL PROJECT CHARTER AND HAVE A CLEAR DIRECTION ON NEXT STEPS WE NEED TO TAKE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, GREG. TO THE PARK'S BOARD AND COUNCIL, IT'S OPEN DISCUSSION.
QUESTIONS AND CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT YOU'VE HEARD THIS EVENING AND ANY FEEDBACK BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE.
THE GOAL TONIGHT IS TO REALLY GIVE STAFF SOME DIRECTION HOW WE PROCEED.
.>> SURE. I MEAN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT'S PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND 2.5 FTES TOTAL, SO THAT'S FTES FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT SO 2.5, 40 HOURS A WEEK EMPLOYEES.
BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DICTATED HEAVILY BASED ON THE HOURS THAT WERE OPEN SO IF THIS IS A FACILITY THAT WE WANT TO OPEN FROM 06:00 AM TO 09:00 PM THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT MORE STAFFING, THAN IF WE OPEN IT FROM 11:00 AM TO 08:00 PM SO THAT WOULD BE DEGENERATE.
THE GOOD THING ABOUT A FACILITY LIKE THIS, IS IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A LOT OF STAFF AT ONE TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FRONT OFFICE AREA, YOU PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER THAT'S FLOATING DURING HOURS JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S OKAY AND EVERYTHING'S GOING WELL, THAT'S REALLY ALL YOU NEED SO YOU DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE LEVELS WHICH WOULD NECESSITATE STAFF ON DIFFERENT LEVELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU CAN REALLY ACCOMPLISH THIS WITH ONE PERSON UPFRONT AND ONE FLOATER THAT'S JUST MOVING AROUND AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S GOOD IN THE FACILITY. YES, SIR.
>> ON THIS INDOOR TRACK IS IT GOING TO BE A DUAL TRACK?
>> OKAY. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TWO LANES?
IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS WOULD BE LIKE PHASE 1, IT WOULDN'T BE A THROWAWAY BUILDING BY ANY MEANS, THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD INTO THE LATER PHASES AS WELL.
I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
>> YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT COUNCILMAN BAKER.
THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY REPRESENT WHAT THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ARE GOING TO BE, THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT WHATEVER WE DESIGN AND BUILD IF WE DO A PHASE 1, WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO A PHASE 2 AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU CHOOSE TO GO, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT WHERE THIS IS DONE.
THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR REC CENTERS TO BE DONE IN MULTIPLE PHASES BECAUSE THEY CAN BE EXPENSIVE TO
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OPERATE AND THEY NEED TO CHANGE WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, NEEDS CHANGING AND IN MY RESEARCH I KNOW IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH MARK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF COMMUNITY REC CENTERS THAT STARTED OUT AS A SINGLE PHASE AND THEN HAVE A SECOND, EVEN A THIRD PHASE AND MAYBE THEY EVEN ADD AN AQUATIC COMPONENT LONG-RANGE IN THE FUTURE SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN OVER TIME.BUT WE WOULD NOT WANT THIS TO BE A THROWAWAY BUILDING, THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THIS WOULD BE A KEY COMPONENT OF THE FULL BUILD OUT OF THE FACILITY.
>> DEFINITELY I WANT TO COMMEND YOU GUYS ALL IN GETTING ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, HAVE A SEAT IS COMMUNITY CENTER.
FOR MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THIS IS A GREAT LOOKING PHASE 1 FOR WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR IT RIGHT NOW.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE TRACK, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT RAISING THE TRACK AT ONE POINT, FINANCIALLY I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S DOABLE OR ANYTHING.
I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE TO SPLIT THOSE AND TURN THOSE COURTS AROUND LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BUT THERE WAS RAISED BUT I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THAT AND THEN WITH THE SALARY IS STAFFING.
WILL THE STAFF BE ALL MEDICALLY TRAINED AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT? THE FEW PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE THERE AS WELL. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
>> I'LL TAKE THE FIRST QUESTION ON THE TRACK AND THEN AND I'LL LET MARK ANSWER THE SECOND QUESTION ON THE STAFFING.
IN REGARDS TO THE TRACK, ONE OF THE IDEAS WITH THIS CONCEPT IS THAT YOU WOULD DESIGN THE SPACE TO WHERE IN THE FUTURE AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE IN PHASE 2, MAYBE IT'S A PHASE 1A IN THE FUTURE YOU COULD BUILD.
THE OVERALL STRUCTURE IS DESIGNED FOR IT YOU COULD BUILD AN ELEVATED WALKING TRACK SO THAT ONE WILL GO AWAY, YOU WOULD THEN TURN THE COURTS 90 DEGREES AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT PREVENTS US FROM HAVING TO INSTALL STAIRS AND AN ELEVATOR IN THE FIRST PHASE, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE REAL EXPENSE IS AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE STAIRS IS IS THE ELEVATOR THAT THE COST OF THE ELEVATOR AND THEN BUILDING THAT INTO THE DESIGN, AND THEN THE COST OF BUILDING THE SUSPENDED STRUCTURE.
BUT WE COULD DESIGN THE STRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SUSPENSION IN THE FUTURE, BUT I THINK EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT BUT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IS WAYS TO ACHIEVE THE SAME ACTIVITIES WITHOUT BUT WHILE BEING AS COST-CONSCIOUS AS POSSIBLE.
>> LET'S TRY THIS. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.
I'M ALSO PROUD TO TELL ALL OF YOU THAT I'VE ENSURED THAT ALL OF YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF ARE CPR CERTIFIED, AD CERTIFIED, AND STOP THE BLEED TREND.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, ESPECIALLY IN A FACILITY LIKE THIS WHERE YOU'VE GOT ATHLETIC THINGS GOING ON SO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT, THE RIGHT TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND QUICKLY.
IN MY LENGTHY CAREER I HAVE A NUMBER OF STORIES WHERE THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY BENEFICIAL, SO YES THAT IS SOMETHING CONTINUED TO BE VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
>> I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'VE LEARNED OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS THEY WILL ALWAYS GO UP.
DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S AN INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT, COVID WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD COMMENT AND SAY IS, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO SHELL OUT PORTIONS OF A BUILDING BUT YOU CAN GET MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE PLAN DESIGNED, READY TO GO BUILD AS MUCH AS YOU CAN NOW, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T HAVE EQUIPMENT IN IT, HAVE IT READY TO GO, BECAUSE IT ONLY GETS MORE EXPENSIVE AND MORE CHALLENGING. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN.
WHEN I'M LOOKING IT I UNDERSTAND WE GOT TO DO THIS IN PHASES.
WE ARE 25,000 PERSON COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF AMENITIES FOR A TOWN OUR SIZE, WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.
WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, WHAT DOES THIS PROVIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS PHASE 1 THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT.
THE BIGGEST THING I SEE IS THAT GYMNASIUM WITH THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND THE AND INDOOR WALKING TRAIL.
I ASKED MY WIFE I DON'T ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL, BUT I CAUGHT THIS ONE REAL QUICK.
WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE PLAYING BASKETBALL AND WE'VE GOT TWO 12 BY 12 BATHROOMS IN THE LOCKER ROOMS BUT WE HAVE A KITCHEN.
I'M A LITTLE BIT WONDERING ABOUT HOW ALL THAT'S GOING TO WORK,
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PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE.I'D PROBABLY LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS FAR AS THAT GOES BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT I THINK IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
>> I JUST LIKE TO ADD ON TO THAT COMMENT.
IF I REMEMBER RIGHT LOOKING BACK ON THE GRAPHS THAT YOU GUYS SHOWED, IT SEEMS LIKE A KITCHEN WAS LOW ON THEIR PRIORITY SO I WAS WONDERING WHY THAT WAS ADDED, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY FURTHER EXPLANATION AS TO WHY.
BECAUSE I THINK LOCKER AND SHOWER ALSO WILL BE IMPORTANT.
>> THE KITCHEN IS NOT REQUIRED.
WHAT IT ENDS UP BEING IS THAT THERE'S CERTAIN TYPES OF RENTALS AND USES THAT THE FACILITY CAN'T REALLY WORK WELL FOR IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF SETUP.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE HOSTING SOMETHING WHERE YOU WERE GOING TO CATER FOOD OR IN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOOD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT SPACE IS FOR, SO THE INTENT IS NOT TO DO FULL-BLOWN COOKING IN THERE AND IT'S NOT TO HAVE A REALLY NICE KITCHEN BUT THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ENOUGH OF A WARMING KITCHEN, A CATERING KITCHEN OF SOME SORT TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE THAT SEPARATION IN THE FOOD CAN BE PLACED IN THERE, SO IF YOU WERE DOING A BABY SHOWER, BRIDAL SHOWER, DIFFERENT THINGS IT CAN FUNCTION.
NOW WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS, I MEAN IF THE FEEDBACK AS YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT REMOVING IT COMPLETELY, WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT IF THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO SKIN THAT CAT.
I MEAN THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, MARK AND I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS AND WORK WITH THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD TO SEE IS THERE A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO DO THAT TO WHERE MAYBE WE CAN GET BACK SOME OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND RE-PURPOSE IT TO SOME OF THESE OTHER SPACES LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE RESTROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.
>> THIS IS SUPPOSED TO ESTIMATED COST AT EIGHT MILLION?
>> WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH OTHER EIGHT MILLION?
>> THERE ARE SEVERAL ADDITIONAL PARKS, WE CALL THEM PARKS ON PAPERS SO THEY ARE PROPERTIES THAT HAD BEEN DEDICATED AS PARKLAND, WHERE NO PARK HAS BEEN BUILT.
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE IS IN ANNA TOWN SQUARE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPER DEDICATED 28 ACRES OFF OF FINLEY AT THE END OF FINLEY OVER THERE AND SO WE HAVE PLANS TO START THE DESIGN WORK ON A PARK THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS SO BOND MONEY COULD BE USED TO FUND THAT.
BOND MONEY COULD BE USED TO DO ADDITIONAL TRAIL PROJECTS, SO TRAILS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE BOND, THERE'S ONLY ONE TRAIL PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT'S FUNDED WHICH IS THE PECAN GROVE TRAIL EXTENSION.
WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS BASICALLY TAKING THE REMAINING FUNDS, CUTTING THEM IN HALF PUTTING HALF TOWARDS THE REC CENTER, HALF TOWARDS TRAILS AND PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
HOWEVER THAT'S ALSO UP FOR DISCUSSION IF THE COUNCIL AND THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD FIELD THAT YOU WANT TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION OBVIOUSLY AS STAFF WE'RE RECEPTIVE TO THE DIRECTION YOU WANT US TO GO.
>> THE INITIAL LANGUAGE DID IT SAY IT SAID WE WOULD DESIGN AND ACQUIRE PROPERTY FOR A REC CENTER, BUT IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT US FROM USING IT FOR CONTRACTIONS.
>> I THINK [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE NOT CALLING FOR ANOTHER BOND JUST [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE NOT BUILDING RECREATION [INAUDIBLE] BUILD A RECREATION CENTER AND ALSO BE ABLE TO SERVICE EIGHT OR NINE MORE PROJECTS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO TOUCH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE WITH THIS.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT, BECAUSE OF THE BAND THAT DID TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE PARKS AND TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND IF WE POUR ALL THE MONEY IN A REC CENTER, THEN THIS IS GOING TO BE THOSE FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE, WELL, WHAT ABOUT ME AND I DIDN'T GET MY TRAILER, I DIDN'T GET MY WHATEVER.
I THINK WE'RE BEING GOOD STROKES LIKE SAY BUILD AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WASN'T IN THE BAND TO BUILD, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT TO BUILD SOMETHING, TO GET SOMETHING USEFUL, IT GIVES US A TIME TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT AND BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS ON THE SLIDE AS WELL.
>> WE ALL GOT TO REMEMBER IT, LET'S ADD THE CITY SOUTH OF US MCKINNEY, WHENEVER I MOVED HERE IN 1998, THE TOWN LAKE REC CENTER WAS LIKE IT IS NOW, THEY JUST NOW CLOSED IT THIS YEAR TO ADD TO IT, APEX HAS ONLY BEEN IN THE MCKINNEY MAYBE FIVE YEARS.
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MCKINNEY IS HUGE.WE'RE ONLY 27,000 STRONG RIGHT NOW INANNA.
PHASE 1 $8 MILLION IS IDEAL FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING OR SHOULD DO AND THEN BUILD OTHERS AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCATION, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT LOCATION OF WHERE THIS IS GOING TONIGHT SO WE CAN SQUASH ANY I CRAZY IDEAS.
BUT I'D LIKE THAT, I DO AGREE WITH LEE, SOME BASKETBALL, I WILL PROBABLY NEVER PLAYED BASKETBALL BECAUSE I'LL KILL MYSELF.
BUT SOME CHANGING ROOM, NOT SO MUCH, MAYBE SHOWERS, BUT A CHANGING ROOM SHOULD BE ADDED TO IT, THE KITCHEN, I DO LIKE THE WHOLE RENTAL IDEA, BUT EVERYTHING BUT THAT PHASE 1 RIGHT THERE WOULD BE IDEAL FOR WHO WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND THEN WE SPEND THE REST OF THAT 16 ELSEWHERE.
>> WELL, IT DEFINITELY HAS A STAFFING IMPACT BECAUSE WHAT WE DO HAVE TO HAVE STAFF CHECKING THOSE THINGS, MONITORING THOSE THINGS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHO YOU HAVE STAFF GOING INTO WHICH SIDE OF THOSE FACILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO IT DOES ADD COMPLEXITY TO THE STAFFING SIDE OF IT.
I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR YOU TONIGHT AS FAR AS LIKE WHERE THE BREAK POINT IS, AS FAR AS HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL STEP, BUT IT DOES IMPACT STAFFING BUT AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE THE FEEDBACK TONIGHT AND LOOK AT OPTIONS AND THEN WE CAN TRY TO WHITTLE THAT DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT WE THINK MEETS THE NEEDS IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY AND TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> I DON T THINK WE NEED TO FULLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH QUESTIONNAIRE THING BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS AWARE OF EVERYTHING GOING INTO THE LIBRARY, NOT EVERYONE THAT WAS FILLING THAT OUT, I WASN'T AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AT SLATER GREEK.
I'M SAYING SO THE PICKLEBALL JUST WE'RE BUILDING AT NINE COURTS, SO THERE'S THINGS THAT WERE IN THAT QUESTIONNAIRE FOR A REC CENTER THAT THE LIBRARY IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF, SO A REALLY UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY WANTS THE BELLS AND WHISTLES, I WANT THE BELLS AND WHISTLES AND WELL, WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT, WE'VE GOT TO BE CONSERVATIVE ON OUR MONEY AND MONEY WE SPEND IN A TAX DOLLAR.
>> I AGREE WITH EVERY COMMENT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT, I THINK THE THING TO LIKE THE KITCHEN SPACE.
THE THING I DO LIKE ABOUT THE KITCHEN SPACES, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT SHOULD BE BIG ENOUGH TO HOUSE A HOT DOG, COOK OUT, BUT FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY, FOR A BUNCH OF YOUTH WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A SPACE TO PUT SOME BIRTHDAY CAKES AND RAN OUT OF GYM WHEN IT'S OUT OF THE ORDINARY BUSINESS HOURS.
THE THING YOU GOT TO REMEMBER IS THIS ISN'T AN EXPENSE, IT'S AN ONGOING EXPENSE, IT'S JUST LIKE ADDING A POLICE OFFICER IS JUST LIKE ADDING A FIRE STATION, UNLESS YOU ADD NEW AVENUES FOR YOUR REVENUE TO GROW ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, YOU'VE NOW CREATED AN EXPENSE.
YOU'RE RIGHT. PARKS, TRAILS, THOSE THINGS DON'T REQUIRE A WHOLE LOT OF EXPENSE EXCEPT REPORTS FROM CONCRETE EVERY NOW AND THEN, KEEPING THE PLACE MODE, THESE COSTS MONEY.
YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES, YOU HAVE TO PAY THEIR BENEFITS, THERE'S OTHER COSTS INCLUDED, SO I WANT TO MAKE IT AS MUCH OF A MULTI-PURPOSE AS WE CAN THAT WE CAN AFFORD, I WANT IT TO BE AS LARGE AS IT CAN POSSIBLY BE.
THE LOCATION WHERE IT'S GOING CLEARLY, WE WOULD HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR EXPANSION, BUT LIKE I SAID, BUILD AS MUCH AS YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN AFFORD TODAY OR YOU'RE DOING YOUR CITY A DISSERVICE.
>> I JUST GOT ONE MORE THING, I DID HAVE A BRIEF NIGHTMARE, ABOUT 36 YEAR-OLDS AND A KITCHEN LIKE THAT WITH 212 BY 12 BATHROOMS, BUT A BEAT THAT HORSE, AS LONG AS WE'VE GOT PHASE ONE, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR, DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PHASE TWO? WE GOT TO HAVE SOME IDEA OF A FUNDING MECHANISM BECAUSE I'D HATE TO SEE SOMETHING GOOD HALFWAY DONE AND THEN NOT BEING COMPLETED.
>> FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT PHASE TWO WOULD BE PART OF A FUTURE BOND ELECTION WHEN THE TAX RATE COULD SUPPORT SUCH A BOND,
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THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION, SO BUT WE COULD QUANTIFY WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE TO ADD THE REST OF THE WHAT'S NOT BUILT IN PHASE ONE, HOW MUCH THE PHASE TWO FACILITIES WOULD BE.WE COULD APPLY AN ANNUAL UPDATE, WE CAN JUST TRACK THAT AS PART OF OUR ANNUAL SO THAT EVERY YEAR WHEN WE GET INTO BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND YOU START LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO DO A BOND, WE COULD GIVE YOU TRY TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT AND GIVE YOU UPDATED COSTS.
HOW MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAT GOD VERSUS TODAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO YOU WOULD KNOW GOING INTO IT, SO THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT, SO YOU COULD DO IT AS PART OF A LARGER BOND PACKAGE AND SET ASIDE A BUDGET BASED ON A ROUGH COST, WE COULD CHOOSE TO DO THE DESIGN IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE ONCE PHASE ONE IS UP AND OPERATING, AT SOME POINT, YOU GO AHEAD AND FUN DESIGN AND YOU'VE FULLY DESIGN IT.
THEN YOU DO THE BOND ELECTION AT THE POINT IN TIME WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO WHERE IF THE VOTERS APPROVE IT A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER, THE BONDS GET SOLD AND THEY SEE SHOVELS GO ON THE GROUND THAT SAME YEAR.
THAT'S ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF DOING THE DESIGN UPFRONT IF WE CAN AFFORD IT, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT DO NOT START A FULL-BLOWN DESIGN OF PHASE 2 UNTIL PHASE 1 IS AN OPERATION AND WE REALLY SEE HOW IT'S BEING USED BECAUSE THAT MAY CHANGE HOW WE VIEW SOME OF OUR NEEDS FOR PHASE 2.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THESE CITIES IN COLLIN COUNTY OR GO AND JUST LOOK AT THE COUNTY, LOOK AT THEIR SONS ON HIGHWAY FIVE TODAY ON A BOND PACKAGE, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE BUILDING EXTRAVAGANT FACILITIES ALL ACROSS NORTH TEXAS AND IT'S GOING ON THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR.
THE TAXPAYER IS GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON IT AND BUY IT, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR ONLY OPTION TO DO THESE THINGS, IS IT'S GOING TO BE BOND PACKAGES AND PUT IT IN THE VOTERS HANDS IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY A FEW MORE EXTRA DOLLARS PER YEAR ON THEIR TAXES, THEY'LL GET A BIGGER FACILITY.
I WOULD HOPE TO FEATURE COUNCILS, PARKS, BOARDS, AND EVERYBODY ELSE WILL RALLY AROUND THAT TO LET THE OTHER PEOPLE DECIDE, BUT FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT COST YOU EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, THROW IT OUT THERE.
THEY'LL TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT AND OTHERWISE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THESE THINGS GOING FORWARD.
>> YOU MENTIONED LOCATION EARLIER, CAN WE ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN SHATTERED THAT THEY GOING ELSEWHERE AND NOWHERE, TWO YEARS AGO WE'VE DISCUSSED IT GOING AT GEAR PARK, ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT STATIC, PHASE 1 ERECT CENTERED AT GEAR PART
>> I THINK THAT'S UP TO YOU EVERYBODY HERE, I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING, WE OWN THE PROPERTY.
>> WE HAVE LIKE OVER 20 YEARS.
>> OTHERWISE, WE NEED TO GO FIND A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WHEN IT'S GOING FOR $15 A FOOT, YOU'LL SPEND EIGHT MILLION JUST TO FIND THE PLACE TO BUILD DEPLOYS.
>> THAT OPENS UP A WHOLE DIFFERENT SUBJECT, I MEAN WE ALREADY OWN GEAR, WE'VE HAD IT FOR A LONG TIME AND THEN PEOPLE WOULDN'T WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO A GEAR? THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR.
>> WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SHUT THE CHATTER SO WE KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING.
>> IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE PROPERTY YOU OWN, BUT I WOULD AGREE IT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY GO THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSING THIS THING CAN GO ON FOR A WHILE.
>> I'M GOING TO JUMP IN. ONE, I DO WANT TO TELL THIS PARK'S BOARD, I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEM.
THEY PUT IT IN MANY VOLUNTEER HOURS, NOT JUST MEETING UP HERE, BUT WEEKENDS, EITHER ON THEIR OWN, ARE GOING WITH THE CITY TO GO REVIEW OTHER FACILITIES.
WE'VE ALSO HAD SEVERAL COUNCIL THAT WERE INVOLVED.
THIS HAS BEEN A VERY HANDS-ON PROJECT TO GET IT TO HERE.
NO ONE EVER THIS WE'VE GOT UNVEILED.
EVERY ONE OF US HAS THAT 30,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY IN MIND THAT WE HAVEN'T SWALLOW THIS.
AND REALIZED THAT I THOUGHT ELTON AND PEAK COMMUNICATED IT QUITE WELL THAT THIS OPTION CHECKS OFF EVERYTHING ON THE BOND.
THEN SOME WHICH HOW MANY TIMES IN THE PAST UP NECESSARILY IN THE CITY THAT WE VOTED FOR, THINGS HAVE BEEN VERY UNDERWHELMED WITH THE FINISHED PRODUCT? THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE GATE WITH STAFF WORKING OVERTIME.
COMING OUT OF THE GATE, GIVEN US EVERYTHING WE ASKED FOR AND THEN SOME AND SOON, WHICH IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE OF GOVERNMENT PROJECTS.
AS FAR AS GEAR, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO UNVEIL THAT TONIGHT,
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BUT DO YOU HAVE THE LAYOUT OF WHAT GEAR COULD LOOK LIKE? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD SHOW?>> I DID NOT INCLUDE IT IN THE PRESENTATION FOR TONIGHT, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT OUT TO BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD.
WE CAN EMAIL THAT OUT AFTER THIS MEETING.
>> QUITE SIMPLY, IT'S THAT WAY JUST A FEW BLOCKS.
TWO THESE ARE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX AND WITH WHAT ALL STAFF HAS IN MIND AND WHEN ALL PARKS HAS TALKED ABOUT AND COUNSELS TALKED ABOUT, THIS WORKS TO CONTINUE TO ACTIVATE DOWNTOWN AND MAKE ANNA ACTUALLY HAVE A REAL DOWNTOWN, NOT A DOWNTOWN STREET.
THIS GETS US HERE MUCH FASTER.
IT ALSO TELLS ALL OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE THAT WERE INVESTED BY SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS.
ANY DEVELOPER WHO'S THINKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN ANNA, NOW'S THE TIME TO CALL JOI GRESHAM UP AT THE ETC, AND START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS BEFORE SOMEBODY ELSE DOES.
I GUARANTEE YOU THAT PHONE'S RINGING.
YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP WITH PARKS BOARD MEMBERS TO ME, YOU'VE ANSWERED ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD RECOMMEND COUNCILMAN MILLER HAS MENTIONED IT ALREADY, AND OTHERS.
I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE RESTROOM SITUATION ALSO THE SHOWER SITUATION BECAUSE WE'RE TELLING ANNA THAT, HEY, HERE'S WHERE RINGO WORKOUT, PLAY BALL HARD INDOORS.
BY THE WAY, BEFORE YOU GO TO WORK, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK HOME AND CLEAN UP AND CHANGE AND SO YOU NEED TO ADD THAT AMOUNT OF TIME TO YOUR PRACTICE OR PLAY.
I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT MAYBE SOME FAMILY BATHROOMS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAVE A SHOWER OR AMENITY.
IT'S NOT AN OPEN AREA, SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT SHARED CONCERNS OF THAT NATURE AND MAYBE THAT'LL HELP WITH STAFFING.
AS FAR AS THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM THAT HAS BIG CHUNK PROPERTY, I THINK OUR GHOST KITCHEN THAT WE HADN'T FRESCO WAS ONLY 300 SQUARE FEET.
WE DID A LOT OUT OF THAT SO PERSONALLY, I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE COULD RE-ENGINEER.
I REALIZE THIS IS JUST A GREG'S FANCY ARCHITECTURE.
NOT NECESSARILY AN ACTUAL ARCHITECT, BUT HE IS A LICENSED ARCHITECT.
I WAS ACTUALLY QUOTING HIM BECAUSE HE WAS LIKE, DON'T JUDGE ME ON AN ARCHITECTURAL MERIT.
THERE'S ALREADY BEEN CHATTER, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET TWO BASKETBALL COURTS OUT OF THIS.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE SIDE COURTS SO WE CAN WORK WITH THE SMALLER YOUTH PLAYED.
BUT IF YOU'RE ABLE TO TURN THIS, MAXIMIZE THE AREA, I'M OKAY WITH HAVING SOME UNUSED SPACE THAT WE BUILT INTO THE MAYOR SAID.
THEN ON A PERSONAL NOTE FROM ME, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT COMPLEMENT THIS FACILITY, THE TERRACOTTA, THE BLUE GLASS, AND WE DON'T EAT ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE SHIPPED IN FROM GERMANY OR ANY CRAZY STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT SOMETHING THAT WHENEVER YOU LOOK OVER TO THE EAST, YOU GO, THAT'S PART OF ANNA.
I THINK WE HAVE A WIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THIS BUDGET AS WELL OR IS THAT SOMETHING THEY'LL COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT BUDGET AND WILL THAT BE COMPLETED BEFORE AFTER SAME TIME AS THIS PROJECT TO ALLOW PEOPLE EASY ACCESS TO THE BUILDING?
>> SURE. THE OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THIS FACILITY IN MOST PARTS OF THE CITY, BUT OBVIOUSLY DEFINITELY A GEAR.
THERE'LL BE SOME SOME ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN SOME WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE ARE OTHER BUCKETS OF MONEY THAT WE CAN PULL FROM TO DO SOME OF THAT WORK.
IF THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WHAT I WOULD DO IS I PREPARE AN INITIAL BUDGET ANALYSIS THAT WOULD SAY WE'RE GOING TO PULL THIS MUCH FROM ROADWAY IMPACT FEES FOR THIS PORTION.
WE'RE GOING TO PULL THIS MUCH FROM WATER AND SEWER IMPACT FEES TO BUILD THIS PORTION.
THEN THERE WOULD BE SOME AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT EIGHT MILLION.
BUT WE WOULD TRY TO UTILIZE AS MUCH OF WHAT'S ALREADY SHOWN IN OUR CIP BECAUSE WE HAVE CIP PLANS FOR WATER AND SEWER AND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA, SO WE COULD DO A LOT OF THAT USING OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
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>> LAST THING I'LL SAY, AND STAFF PROBABLY NEEDS TO HEAR THIS.
IN ALL HONESTY, ONE OF THE LARGEST COMPLAINTS THAT I GET IN REGARDS TO FACILITIES, PARKS.
MADE ME WANT TO MENTION WE MAY ALL TO THINK ABOUT THREE LINES AROUND THAT WALKING TRACK.
SERIOUSLY, THE CALL I'LL GET THE MOST IN THE CITY OF ANNA, IS WILL YOU CALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO OPEN UP THE TRACKS SO WE CAN WALK ON THE TRACK? I THINK PUTTING THAT WALKING TRACK IN IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL TO A LOT OF SENIORS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE I GET ASKED ALL THE TIME WHY THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THAT HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL STADIUM.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO HEAR THAT GREG MARTIN AS YOU'RE DRAWING.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL PAUL, PARKS BOARD? I APPRECIATE EVERYONE TAKING TIME AWAY FROM THEIR EVENING AND THEIR FAMILIES TO BE HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, I'LL LET THE PARK'S BOARD ADJOURN.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND NET CHURN AT 07:16. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL. WE WILL START BACK IN TWO MINUTES, SO IF YOU NEED A DRINK OR ANYTHING ELSE, WE'LL KEEP GOING.
COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE BACK INTO THE REGULAR PART OF OUR MEETING.
[6. Consent Items.]
WE HAVE JUST CONCLUDED ITEM 5 A AND B WHICH IS OUR WORK SESSION.WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT ITEMS. THESE ITEMS CAN CONSIST OF NON-CONTROVERSIAL OR HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW.
CONSENT ITEMS, WE NEED TO PULL FROM OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING.
IF NOT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION ON CONSENT ITEMS.
>> MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE I ITEMS 6 A THROUGH U.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LEE. SECOND?
>> SECOND BY THE MAYOR PROTEM. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> YES. MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON.
[7. Items For Individual Consideration.]
NEW ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE 9.02.
EXCUSE ME, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, OF THE CITY OF ANNA CODE OF ORDINANCES.
MR [INAUDIBLE] BILL AND I AM GOING TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AT 07:25 PM.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL FOR ALL SELF-DEVELOPED DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
MY STAFF AND I ARE VERY PLEASED TO BRING BEFORE YOU THE LAST TWO REMAINING ITEMS AS IT RELATES TO THE REWRITE OF OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THIS EVENING, WE HAVE OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS OUR SIGNAGE REGULATIONS.
THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
HOWEVER, THE SIGNAGE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS NEXT, IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE OUR CONSULTANT TEAM, FREESE AND NICHOLS.
DANIEL HARRISON IS HERE HE'LL BE MAKING A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
PART OF HIS PRESENTATION HE'LL BE CONSOLIDATING BOTH ITEMS TOGETHER SO THAT WAY YOU CAN HEAR THE HOLISTIC APPROACH ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE OTHER REGULATIONS.
WE'VE MODIFIED THEM TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
HELP PROVIDE CLEAR DIRECTION FOR BOTH OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS THOSE THAT ARE BUILDING IN THE COMMUNITY.
CREATE REGULATIONS THAT HELP THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS PRESERVE THE COMMUNITY PART OF THE MASTER PLAN.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'LL INTRODUCE DANIEL AND GO OVER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.
AGAIN AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT OUR LAST MEETING, THEY VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY.
>> THANK YOU, ROSS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS DANIEL HARRISON.
I WORKED FOR FREESE AND NICHOLS. WE'RE PLANNERS.
WITH ME TONIGHT I HAVE RHYS WILSON, THE LEAD PLANNER ON THE SIGN CODE, AND WILSON KERR THE LEAD PLANNER ON THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, AND WE JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT WAS IN BOTH THOSE DOCUMENTS.
I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PLANNING, HOW LAND IS SUBDIVIDED.
REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE PROCEDURES AND SUBDIVISION DESIGN STANDARDS.
WHAT WE DO IN DIVISION 2, WE HAVE OUTLINED THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS, BUT WE'LL FOCUS ON DIVISION 2.
WE UPDATED THE APPROVAL PROCEDURES FOR PLOTTING TYPES AND CONFERRED THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR SPECIFIC PLATS THAT WE HAVE AND STATE LAW.
THE MOST NOTABLE CHANGES IS THAT P&Z WOULD BE THE SOLE APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR PLATS WITH CITY STAFF APPROVING MINOR PLATS,
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SO IT'D BE GOING AND BEING APPROVED BY P&Z FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PLATS EXCEPT FOR THE MINOR PLATS GOING TO CITY STAFF.WE ALSO INTRODUCED CONVEYANCE PLANTS.
I'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES ON THAT HERE IN JUST A SECOND.
WE ALSO, IN THAT EFFORT TO HELP IMPROVE THE READABILITY, TO LET SOMEONE KNOW HOW THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS WORKS.
OF COURSE, WE'VE ADDED FLOWCHARTS FOR EACH PLAT TYPE TO DEMONSTRATE HOW SOMEONE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
ONE OF THE NEW SECTIONS AS THE CONVEYANCE PLAT SECTION THAT'S USED TO CONVEY LAND OR PROPERTY OF INTEREST WHEN SOMEONE'S PLATTING, RATHER THAN DOING A FINAL PLAT ON BOTH PIECES, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND DO A CONVEYANCE PLAT TO RECORD THAT SUBDIVISION NOT INTENDED TO BE IMMEDIATELY DEVELOPED.
THE CONVEYANCE PLAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE THE APPROVAL OF DEVELOPMENT ON THAT LAND.
THEY'D STILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND GO THROUGH THE FINAL PLAT PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR BUILDING PERMIT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE FLOWCHARTS THAT WE COULD SEE AND EXPLAIN TO A POTENTIAL APPLICANT HOW THIS PROCESS WOULD WORK.
MOVING ON TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE IN DIVISION 3, AND THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PUBLIC SITES AND OPEN SPACES, WE ENSURE THAT OUR GUIDELINES ALIGN WITH STATE LAW, SO WORKING WITH STAFF, YOU HAVE A VERY EXPERIENCED AND EDUCATE STAFF.
IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THEM TO HELP UPDATE THESE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
SO WE DID THAT TO ALSO ALIGN WITH STATE LAW.
NUMBER 2, WE HAVE OUTLINES FOR HOW WE APPROACH OUR STANDARDS FOR WHETHER IT'S ALLEY DESIGNS OR EASEMENT GUIDELINES, WE'VE UPDATED THOSE, ALSO UPDATING THE GRAPHICS FOR GREATER EASE OF USE.
JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE SCREEN, HOW WE DESIGN OPEN SPACE AND A SUBDIVISION.
THEN WE UPDATED THE NEIGHBORHOOD POINT SYSTEM FOR NEW SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENTS AND JUST A REFRESHER OF WHAT THAT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD POINT SYSTEM.
IT'S REALLY PROVIDING A MENU OF ELEMENTS TO BE INCLUDED IN A SUBDIVISION THAT ARE ASSIGNED POINT VALUES THAT WOULD EQUAL A TOTAL.
SO JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ENTRYWAY FEATURES, WHETHER IT'S A WATER FEATURE THAT WE HAVE IN THIS EXAMPLE OPEN SPACES, GAZEBOS, THOSE GET POINTS FOR THE DESIGN.
ALSO, WE LOOK AT ENTRYWAY FEATURES.
SO WHETHER THAT'S DIVIDED ENTRYWAY, WHETHER IT'S LANDSCAPE THE WHOLE ENTRYWAY, THOSE TYPES OF ELEMENTS SCORE POINTS ALONG IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
BUT ALSO ENHANCED THE GRAPHICS.
SO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO THIS AS AN ENTRYWAY INTO A SUBDIVISION, WE CAN SEE WE WERE MARKING OUT LAYOUT UP FOR WHERE THE SIDEWALKS GO, ALSO THE TRAVEL LANES.
SO WE HAVE ALL THESE ELEMENTS THAT ARE NOW INCORPORATED IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
MOVING ON TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE, TOP THINGS THAT WE JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.
WE'VE MODERNIZED THE FORMAT, WE HAVE GRAPHICS AS WELL.
WE CLASSIFY THE SIGN TYPES, WE WILL SHOW YOU JUST A SLIDE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE HERE IN JUST A SECOND.
WE REGULATE SIGNS BY SIGN DISTRICTS.
SIGNS STANDARDS DISPLAYED IN TABULAR FORMAT.
SO IT'S A VERY EASY PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND.
WE'VE STREAMLINED THE PROCESS AND WE'VE EXPANDED ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS.
SO REALLY HIGHLIGHTING A THREE SECTIONS OUT OF OUR SEVEN SECTIONS HERE.
TALKING ABOUT SIGN STANDARDS, WE PROVIDE SIGN TYPES THAT PROTECT FREE SPEECH.
WE DO HAVE CASE LAW THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WHEN UPDATING SIGN STANDARDS.
WE ALSO SIGN REGULATIONS OR REGULATED ACCORDING TO SIGN DISTRICTS.
SO WE HAVE ZONING DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS TRANSLATE INTO SIGN DISTRICTS, WE'LL HAVE A TABLE THAT SHOWS THAT.
WE HAVE FIVE CLASSIFICATIONS OF SIGNS IN THE CITIES.
WE HAVE DETACHED, ATTACHED, INCIDENTAL, TEMPORARY, AND SPECIAL.
WE'LL TAKE A REAL QUICK LOOK AT WHAT THOSE ARE.
WE HAVE GRAPHICS TO ILLUSTRATE THESE AND ALSO ONCE AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE TABULAR FORMS. ON THE LEFT HERE, WE JUST SEE OUR ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, HOW THOSE TRANSLATE INTO OUR SIGN DISTRICT.
A GOOD EXAMPLE IS WE HAVE DIFFERENT SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICTS THAT ALL ROLLS UP INTO ONE SINGLE-FAMILY SIGN DISTRICT.
ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT SCREEN, YOU SEE WE HAVE CURRENT SIGN TYPES AND THE PREVIOUS SIGN TYPES.
SO WHEN WE'RE REFERENCING A SIGN TYPE, WE CAN SEE HOW THOSE TRANSLATE BETWEEN THE TWO CODES.
LOOKING AT DETACH SIGNS, WE HAVE FOUR TYPES OF DETACHED SIGNS.
WE HAVE MAJOR MONUMENT SIDES, MINOR MONUMENT SIDES, POLE SIGNS, AND SUBDIVISION ENTRY SIGNS.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE GRAPHICS FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT SIGN TYPES.
THERE'S LANDSCAPING REQUIRED AT THE BASE OF THESE SIGNS.
WE ALSO HAVE, IF IT'S A POLE SIGN, WRAPPING OF THE POLE WITH SOME TYPE OF MASONRY MATERIAL.
THEN OUR TABULAR FORM IS REALLY FOR EACH ONE OF THESE EXPLAINING IN OUR DIFFERENT SIGN DISTRICTS WHAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE.
ATTACHED SIGNS ARE JUST SORT OF LIKE THEY SOUND THEY ARE ATTACHED TO A BUILDING OR TO A STRUCTURE.
SO WE HAVE WALL SIGNS, AWNING SIGNS.
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ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE GRAPHICS THAT REALLY SHOW HOW ALL THESE FUNCTION IN THE REAL WORLD AND ONCE AGAIN, TABULAR FORMS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE SIGN TYPES.MOVING OVER TO OUR INCIDENTAL SIGN, THESE ARE SIGNS THAT YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE ON A PROPERTY, WHETHER THEY'RE GENERAL INCIDENTAL SIGNS, SORT OF WAY-FINDING SIGNS.
YOU SEE IN THAT BOTTOM LEFT IMAGE, A FLAG, SPEAKER BOARDS, WALK-UP BOARDS, THESE TYPES OF INCIDENTS SIDES WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE ON A PROPERTY. TEMPORARY SIGNS.
WE HAVE GENERAL TEMPORARY SIZE, BUT WE HAVE WHAT ARE THEY, SIDEWALK SIGNS, ATTACHED BANNERS, DETACHED BANNERS, FEATHER SIGNS, ALL THESE TYPES OF SIGNS THAT WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY AND DO HAVE STANDARDS FOR THOSE SO THEY DON'T BECOME CLUTTER AND KEEP THE CITY AT AN ATTRACTIVE MANNER.
SPECIAL SIGNS, WE HAVE MURALS, DIGITAL BILLBOARDS, POLITICAL SIGNS.
WE DO HAVE MURALS BEING IN DOWNTOWN, AND THAT'S AN APPROVAL OF THE COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT THOSE.
MOVING OVER TO OUR PERMITS, WE MOSTLY CARRIED THE PERMANENT PROCEDURES FORWARD WITH SOME MINOR UPDATES.
THE ONE THING I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ALL THAT WE HAVE A SIGN COORDINATION PLAN.
SO FAR, LARGER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN A PD, THOSE WOULD BE REGULATED BY A SIGN COORDINATION PLAN TO REALLY SEE HOW THOSE SIGNS WOULD INTERRELATE.
WITH THAT, JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER OR ANYONE FROM THE TEAM.
IF YOU HAD A QUESTION THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I DO HAVE A COUPLE. THE DIGITAL SIGNS, YOU WENT THROUGH THAT ONE REALLY QUICK AND I NOTICED 75121, COLLIN COUNTY, OUTER LOOP.
IS THAT ONLY DIGITAL BILLBOARDS?
>> CORRECT. DIGITAL BILLBOARDS.
>> WELL, I GUESS I SHOULD READ IT EXCEPT DIGITAL BILLBOARD, BUT YOU WENT THROUGH IT QUICK. I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE-CHECK.
DOES ANY OF THIS PERTAIN TO NEON SIGNS OR LIGHTS THAT BUSINESSES MIGHT USE TO BRING ATTENTION IN THEIR WINDOWS?
>> WE DO HAVE STANDARDS FOR WINDOW SIGNS.
WHEN YOU GET TO SOME OF THE LIGHTING, WHETHER IT'S ACCENT LIGHTING FOR THE BUILDING OR WHETHER IT'S AN ACTUAL NEON OPEN SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE HOW THAT WAS ACTUALLY BEING USED.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OPEN SIGN LIKE A NEON OPEN SIGN THAT WOULD TYPICALLY.
>> NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT LIGHTING UP TO WINDOW WHERE IT DRAWS MORE ATTENTION WHENEVER YOU A DRIVING BY.
WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE, FIVE AND WHITE STREET, YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
MAYBE I THINK IT IS STILL LIT UP THAT WAY, BUT YEAH, YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S JUST WOULD LIKE TO CONTROL THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
I DON'T WANT TO CONTROL TOO MUCH, BUT OUR THUMB ON IT TOO MUCH.
BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LINE AND SO PEOPLE DON'T GO OVERBOARD WITH NEON SIGNS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LED SIGNS OR RINGING THE WINDOW?
>> WE ALREADY HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON THAT.
>> YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO ENFORCE IT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS.
THIS IS A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO AN OVERHAUL OF ORDINANCES.
SO ROSS AND YOUR TEAM APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS.
>> THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? THIS WAS PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:36 PM.
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM I?
>> MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS 7A.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOTEN, IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER.
>> YES. MOTION PASSES, OF COURSE.
ADAM B, WE JUST COVERED IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION AND THIS IS, OF COURSE NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE APPROVING AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE 9.05, SIGNS OF THE CITY OF ANECDOTAL ORDINANCES.
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM B?
>> MAYOR, AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 7B.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOTEN, DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CAIN. ALL IN FAVOR?
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ITEM C IS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT I WILL OPEN AT 07:37 P.M. WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON APPROVING THE RESOLUTION REGARDING THE CREATION OF A MEADOW VISTA PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND ORDERING PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE FOR THE BENEFIT OF SUCH DISTRICT. MR. GREGSON.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AS YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS SET BACK AT AN AUGUST 22ND MEETING.
THIS BODY APPROVED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH BLOOMFIELD FOR THE MEADOW VISTA DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A 763 LOT DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE ON HACKBERRY, THE EXTENSION.
THEY'RE JUST SUMMARIZING, REALLY THE KEY PARTS OF THIS PROJECT.
IT WILL CONNECT HACKBERRY ALL THE WAY OVER.
AS YOU KNOW, THE PLAN IS TO TAKE IT ALL THE WAY OUT THERE.
WE'RE DEAD ENDS RIGHT NOW BY WHERE THE HOME DEPOT WILL BE LOCATED.
AS YOU'RE ALSO AWARE, BLOOMFIELD HAS DONE SEVERAL REALLY QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AS A PART OF THE PROCESS HERE, THE PID FEES MAJORITY WILL GO AS A CREDIT SO THAT THEY COULD BUILD THAT OFFSITE PORTION OF HACKBERRY, WHICH IS THAT CRITICAL PIECE.
THEY'RE WORRIED WHERE IT WILL GO OVER BY ANIKA PERRY NORTH, AVERY POINT AREA.
THIS WILL BE, AGAIN, ANOTHER REALLY GOOD DEVELOPMENTS.
AGAIN, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE LAST STEP, AS YOU ARE AWARE, IS THE CREATION OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD BE APPROVING TONIGHT.
I KNOW THEIR TEAM IS HERE AS WELL WITH ANY QUESTIONS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY.
>> PUBLIC HEARINGS OPEN AT 07:39 P.M, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ON ITEM C. I WILL SAY IT AGAIN.
SINCE THE BEGINNING AFTER A DOWNTURN OF 2008 AND 2009, THERE IS NO ONE THAT INVESTED IN ANNA FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT LIKE BLOOMFIELD HOMES.
THEY'RE DEVELOPED MEAN PARTNERS HAVES SO SHOULDN'T BE MUCH OF A DISCUSSION HERE, IN MY OPINION.
ANY QUESTIONS? JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM C.
>> MOTION BY THE MERITS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOTEN.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARK REAL QUICK.
DO WE NEED THE 3782 LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION?
>> THE RESOLUTION IS SUFFICIENT.
I'LL OPEN AT 07:40 P.M TO CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON ORDINANCE PROVEN AN AMENDMENT TO THE ANNA 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR UPDATES TO THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR THE CITY OF ANNA.
I BELIEVE THIS ONE IS MR. PETER'S AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN AT 07:40.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU HAS BEEN TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, WHICH THEY DID MAKE UNANIMOUSLY.
WE HAVE MADE SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
OUR PLAN IS TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS EACH YEAR THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
AROUND THIS TIME EVERY YEAR YOU'LL PROBABLY BE SEEING AS COME BACK.
THE ONLY TIME IT WOULD BE MORE OFTEN THAN THAT IS IF A LARGE DEVELOPMENT WHERE TO COME IN WHERE WE NEEDED TO MAKE SOME SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
BUT OUR GOAL WITH THIS MASTER THOROUGH FARE PLAN IS TO MAKE SURE WE SATISFY OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS TO, FROM, ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY FLEXIBLE ENOUGH IN OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO WHERE WE CAN ALSO DO WHAT MAKES SENSE AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO OCCUR.
WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE AND ADDING MORE ROADWAY CAPACITY WHERE WE NEED IT OR CHANGING ROADS TO LARGER OR SMALLER ROAD TYPES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.
THIS YEAR, THE MOST OF THE CHANGES WERE RELATIVELY MINOR.
WE DID CLEAN UP A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE NORTH CENTRAL AREA BETWEEN STATE HIGHWAY 5 AND US 75, WHERE COUNTY ROAD 371 COMES ACROSS.
AT ONE POINT IN TIME WE HAD A BIG SWEEPING S CURVE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
WE'VE STRAIGHTENED THAT OUT AND INSTEAD EXTENDED UP TWO MAJOR COLLECTORS TO TIE 371 UP TO MANTUA PARKWAY TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS.
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THEN YOU HAVE THE THIRD ONE WITH BUDDY HAYES BOULEVARD EXTENDING UP THERE AS WELL.WE FEEL THAT SUFFICES BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA, ACTUALLY STEP THAT ROAD DOWN TO MAKE IT A COMMERCIAL MINOR COLLECTOR THAT WILL GO THROUGH WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE.
IT WOULD WORK SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE HIGHWAY.
FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU GO DOWN TO ALLEN, DOWN THERE OFF OF WHERE CABELA'S AND THAT DEVELOPMENT IS, YOU HAVE THAT PRIVATE, SEMI PRIVATE, SEMI PUBLIC COLLECTOR ROAD THAT SPLITS IN BETWEEN CABELA'S AND THE SHOPPING CENTER.
WE ALSO TWEAKED SOME OF THE ROAD NETWORK ALONG WHERE THE 121 IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE BY TEXA.
JUST TO REFLECT SOME OF THE CHANGES IN HOW THEY MADE THOSE CONNECTIONS TO 121.
WE'RE BASICALLY JUST SHOWING THEM HOW THEY NOW EXIST.
WE DID MAKE SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE FAR WEST, JUST CLEANING UP SOME THINGS AS FAR AS WHERE WE THINK, LOOKING AT AERIALS AND LOOKING WHERE FOLKS HAVE PONDS AND HOUSES TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BE REASONABLE ABOUT WHERE WE SAY A FUTURE ROAD COULD GO.
BUT WE DO ALL OF THAT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AS DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE CHANGES.
THOSE ARE REALLY THE CHANGES WE MADE.
WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING MAJOR, NO MAJOR SWEEPING CHANGES THAT HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON PROPERTY OWNERS.
I GUESS THE LAST ONE WE DID MAKE IS THAT JUST ON THE EAST SIDE OF HIGHWAY 5, THE OUTER LOOP.
YOU MAY RECALL ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY OWNED BY THE EDC, THE INDUSTRIAL TRACK, WE HAD A MINOR COLLECTOR THROUGH THERE.
SINCE WHOLE CAT TOOK DOWN THAT PROPERTY AND WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BUILD THAT AS A PRIVATE ROADWAY, A PRIVATE ACCESS DRIVE THAT HAS CONNECTIONS TO IT.
BASED ON THAT, WE'VE REMOVED THAT FROM A THOROUGHFARE PLAN SO THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER BUILD A ROAD THAT THEY DON'T NEED.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING 07:45.
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, OR NO COMMENTS.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM D.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARVER, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. ALL IN FAVOR?
ITEM E IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON IMPROVING THE ORDINANCE.
I LIKE THAT, THAT FAN THAT'S WORKING UP THERE.
SORRY. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS SECTION ON IMPROVING THE ORDINANCE, ADOPTING WATER AND SANITARY SEWER RATES FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT I WILL OPEN AT 7:45 PM.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS TO ADOPT THE SAME PROPOSED RATES THAT WERE SHOWN AS A DISCUSSION ITEM IN THE PRIOR COUNCIL MEETING THIS MONTH.
STAFF HAS NOT MADE ANY CHANGES TO THE RATES THAT WERE SHOWN AT OUR PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE ON THE SLIDE WITH THE DIFFERENCES SHOWN BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 23 AND 24.
AS WE EXPLAINED AT THE LAST MEETING, WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY FTES, ANY NEW POSITIONS, AND WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY MAJOR PURCHASES OF EQUIPMENT.
THESE RATE INCREASES ARE BASED ON INCREASED COSTS THAT WE'RE FACING AS UTILITY, AND THEN INCREASED CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING, INCLUDING THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON ATOMY? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:46 PM.
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON ATOMY?
>> WHAT'S THE RATE CHANGE THAT NORTH TEXAS WATER IS MAKING TOWARDS ITS CUSTOMERS?
>> SURE. THEY'RE GOING UP, IT'S ABOUT JUST UNDER 15%.
>> DIDN'T THEY JUST GO UP LAST YEAR, YEAR BEFORE?
>> NORTH TEXAS' RATES SO SEVERAL YEARS AGO THEY WERE AT 305.
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THEY'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY GOING UP.THEY DID HOLD FLAT FOR ONE YEAR IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
BUT I EXPECT THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP JUST BASED ON ALL THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE DOING AND THE GROWTH THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING IN THEIR STAFFING AND EVERYTHING.
I EXPECT WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE THEM RISE FROM SOMEWHERE 8-12 % A YEAR.
>> DO YOU SEE IT GOING UP BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING A BIGGER RESERVOIR OR THIRD RESERVOIR OR IS IT GOING UP TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF WATER THAT THEY PROVIDE?
>> I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE TO ME THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF WATER.
IT SEEMS LIKE MOSTLY WHAT THEIR INVESTMENTS ARE IS IN INCREASING QUANTITY, NOT QUALITY.
>>I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AGGRESSIVE TRANSPARENT CAMPAIGN IN OUR FAVORITE SOCIAL MEDIAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ALONG THOSE LINES SO THAT WE CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THE AGGRAVATION THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR?
>> YES, SIR. I BELIEVE IT MAY HAVE BEEN [INAUDIBLE] MILLER, BUT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SUGGESTED THAT WE NOT ONLY DO A CAMPAIGN THIS FALL TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE THAT THEY WILL SEE THIS ON THERE JANUARY BILLS, BUT ALSO IN THE SPRING BEFORE WATER USE INCREASES AS WE GET WARMER WEATHER AND PEOPLE START IRRIGATING THEIR YARDS, WILL MAKE SURE TO HAVE A SPRING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPERATION AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE BEING CONSERVATION HEAVY.
>> GOOD LUCK. THAT'S A WAR YOU'LL NEVER WIN.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR 20 PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS TONIGHT.
OKAY. MOVE ON AND CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:49 PM.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ATOMY REGARDING OUR WATER? I MOVE WE APPROVE. MOTION BY- SECOND.
BY MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CAIN ON FAVOR.
>> AS DIFFICULT IT IS TO SAY YES, AYE.
OUT OF MATH IS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT AT 7:49 PM TO CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION PROVEN ANNUAL RATE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, WHICH I BELIEVE WE PRETTY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND.
>> YES, SIR. I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
THESE RATES ARE THE SAME AS WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE FIRST MEETING THIS MONTH.
THE RATES WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED ON NOVEMBER BILLS FOR OCTOBER SERVICE.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE UNDER A CONTRACT FOR THIS, WE HAVE LESS CONTROL OVER PUSHING BACK THE RATE INCREASES LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR OUR NEIGHBORS ON WATER AND SEWER SO WE WILL NEED TO IMPLEMENT THIS ON OUR NOVEMBER BILLS.
>> I'M SORRY, I HAD THE SAME QUESTION FOR THAT.
THAT'S AN INCREASED COST AND THE DISPOSAL FOR CARDS, RIGHT?
>> THEN INCREASED BY WHO? CAN YOU SAY IT? YES, SIR.
>> THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT COSTS INCREASE THEY'RE FACING.
A LOT OF THEM ARE TIED TO THE FEES AT THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT LANDFILL WHERE THEY DUMP.
>> OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
>> WILL YOU INCLUDE THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN?
>> I WILL FOR SURE INCLUDE THAT.
>> DID YOU HEAR ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON ITEM F? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:51 PM AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F.
>> MOTION BY THE MAYOR. SECOND, MADAM MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> ONCE AGAIN, IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT YES. AYE.
>> YES. ITEM G. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, [LAUGHTER] 7:52 PM.
WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER DISCUSS SECTION ON ORDINANCE APPROVING AMENDMENTS TO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS THE STAFF IS PROPOSING TO MAKE.
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THESE WERE PRESENTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL, BUT ONLY FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.THEY DID NOT REQUIRE ANY FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THEM.
ON THE WATER MASTER PLAN, WE'RE REALLY MAKING VERY MINOR CHANGES.
IT'S MOSTLY CLARIFYING AND LOOKING AT THE PHASING OF WHAT YOU SEE THERE FOR THE SHIRLEY PUMP STATION, WHICH YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE.
I WISH I COULD ZOOM IN AND SHOW YOU, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IN THE GEAR PARK AREA.
SO WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF FUNDING TO DO INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE REC CENTER.
THIS IS A POTENTIAL COMPANION PROJECT THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT WITH A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE TO DO THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED IN THAT AREA SO IT WOULD BENEFIT BOTH PROJECTS.
BUT JUST CLARIFYING SOME PHASING ON WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED THERE AT THE COLUMN PUMP STATION AND THEN UP NORTH HAD OUR FUTURE GRACE AND PUMP STATION AS WELL.
THE MORE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ON THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL AREA OF THE MAP, JUST TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE ANA TOWN SQUARE PROJECT, YOU'LL SEE A LIGHT GREEN PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND WHAT THAT REPRESENTS IS A NEW SEWER BASIN THAT WE'RE ADDING IN OUR MASTERPLAN AND IT'S CALLED THE STIFF CREEK BRANCH.
THE CITY OF MELISSA ACTUALLY HAS A SEWER LINE THAT EXTENDS UP CLOSE TO THEIR NORTHERN CITY LIMIT, AND WITH ALL THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING OVER IN THIS AREA, WE'VE ADDED LIFT STATION AND SOME LARGE DIAMETER SEWER MAIN THERE, AND WE'VE BEEN IN COORDINATION AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY OF MELISSA REGARDING THE CAPABILITY FOR US TO HAVE THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTION POINT.
THAT WILL BECOME AS MUCH CHEAPER OPTION, WE BELIEVE AS STAFF, THAN TRYING TO RUN SOMETHING BACK ACROSS FIVE AND OVER INTO THE CONNECTION THAT'S NEAR THE JOHN ARGON WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WHERE WE HAVE A LARGER CONNECTION THAT GOES TO NORTH TEXAS.
THE CLIMATE CREEK LINE, WHICH IS IN-BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
WHEN AS ANNA TOWN SQUARE BUILDS OUT, SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA OF BUILD OUT, EVENTUALLY THAT WILL REACH A POINT WHERE WE'VE MAXED OUT WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO FLOW THROUGH THERE SO THE STIFF CREEK BASIN JUST ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE TO GROW IN THAT SOUTHEASTERN PART OF THE CITY WITHOUT HAVING TO ADD MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE DOWNSTREAM OR TAKING THINGS ACROSS, MOVING SEWAGE ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE.
WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED SHOWING THE ABANDONMENT OF THE SWEETWATER LIFT STATION AND THAT BEING REPLACED WITH THE NEW CODE, THE MEADOWS LIFT STATION, WHICH IS A CAPITAL PROJECT THAT TAKES A SMALL LIFT STATION, SERVES ONE DEVELOPMENT AND BASICALLY ABANDONS THAT AND REPLACES IT.
NOT IN THE SWEETWATER NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD SERVE THAT LARGER AREA AND ALLOW FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
BASICALLY EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING HERE IS JUST TO ADDRESS THE CONTINUED GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF OUR CAPACITY FOR OUR SYSTEM.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THIS ITEM.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> EXCUSE ME. ITEM G IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS 07:56 P.M. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM G?
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARVER, AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CAIN. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> IT'S NOT SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO FINISH STRONG.
ACTING AS THEY ENTER PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON THAT IMAGE, CONSIDER DISCUSS, ACT ON IMPROVING RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZING THE FORMATION OF UNLIMITED LIABILITY OF LIMITED LIABILITY AGREEMENTS AND PARTNERSHIPS, AND A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH NPR, LONE STAR DEVELOPMENT, LLC FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOP.
>> WELL, THANK YOU, PRESIDENT CARVER.
[LAUGHTER] TONIGHT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU AN MOU AGREEMENT WITHIN OUR FEE AND IN JUST A MINUTE,
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I'M GONNA BRING IT UP WITH NRP GROUP WHO'S DONE WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AN EXCELLENT DEVELOPER.THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. DAVID CLAUSSEN ON THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS ON MULTI-FAMILY BY THE COUNCIL, I BELIEVE ROTH MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
BUT THIS IS WOULD BE JUST SOUTH OF THE LOVES TRUCK STOP AREA.
BUT LATER IT'S GOING TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THIS THE PERIMETER, THIS IS A SIMILAR TYPE DEAL TO THE GPI, JEFFERSON FINLEY DEAL.
LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE WATERS GREEK DEAL.
ULTIMATELY, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WILL HELP BRING IN.
ONCE THE CLOSING, HAVING INVESTMENT OF FUN COMING IN THERE OF ABOUT, I BELIEVE $550,000 AT CLOSING AND THEN THERE'S SOME FEES THAT COME AROUND.
I THINK IT'S A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
BUT AGAIN, I'LL LET THAT LEADER COME UP.
SHE'S GOT A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT I'LL BE BACK UP HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
>> HI, EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME COME SPEAK HERE TONIGHT.
I'M THE DEVELOPER FOR THE NRP GROUP.
THE NRP GROUP IS A NATIONAL MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPER, BUILDER, AND MANAGER, AND WE HAVE OVER 21 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE HERE IN TEXAS.
WE HAVE PROJECTS ALL ACROSS THE DFW MARKET, AND WE HAVE DONE 18 PFC DEALS HERE IN TEXAS.
WE'VE ALSO WON MANY AWARDS AROUND THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING NATIONAL DEVELOPER OF THE YEAR.
THIS IS A SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.
AS JOLIE MENTIONED, THE SITE IS ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY, SO WE ARE NOT REQUIRING ANY VARIANCES OR ANY ZONING, SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE THERE.
THE PROJECT IS 340 UNITS AND WE ARE 70% ONE BED, 30% TWO BED AND NO THREE BEDS.
THAT WAY WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE PROFESSIONAL AND THE COUPLES TO HELP MITIGATE THE IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS.
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS DEMOGRAPHIC AND THIS DENSITY WILL HELP ATTRACT ACTIVITY TO THIS AREA OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF 75 AND WHITE STREET AND ALSO HELP ATTRACT SOME RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL TO THIS AREA.
I'M ALSO FOR THIS PROJECT, REALLY WANTED TO THINK ABOUT THE DESIGN AND LOOKING AT ALL THE ARCHITECTURE ON THE CITY SO REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUTURE OF ARCHITECTURE LOOKS LIKE HERE SEEING CITY HALL, THE NEW SCHOOLS FOR ANNA ISD AND JUST DIFFERENT PROJECTS AROUND THE CITY.
WE REALLY LIKED THE SURGERY CENTER FOR NORTH TEXAS AND WE USED THAT AS INSPIRATION AND COLOR PALETTE FOR A PROPOSED PROJECT.
THIS WOULD BE THE FOUR-STORY BUILDING.
THERE'S ONLY ONE AND THE REST IS ALL THREE STORY.
THIS WOULD BE WHAT YOU'D DRIVE UP TO AND SEE.
THEN THIS IS THE THREE-STORY OPTION WITH THE COURTYARD IN THE CENTER.
WE'LL HAVE TWO LARGE COURTYARDS WITH LOTS OF GREEN SPACE.
THEN ALL THE IMAGES YOU SEE MOVING FORWARD ARE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED HERE IN TEXAS.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE VERY COMPARABLE AS FAR AS QUALITY AND DESIGN GOES.
WE'LL HAVE A RESORT STYLE POOL AND CLUBHOUSE, WE WORKSPACE.
SINCE POST-COVID, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME, WE'LL HAVE ENHANCED SPACES THERE, AND ALSO HAVE MORE DEN UNITS SO PEOPLE CAN WORK FROM HOME ADEQUATELY.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE A LARGE FITNESS CENTER WITH ALL THE THINGS BUILT OUT.
NO ONE WILL NEED TO GO GET A GYM MEMBERSHIP IF THEY LIVE HERE.
ALSO HAVE A LOT OF OUTDOOR SPACE FOR GAMES, OUTDOOR COMMUNITY SPACE, OUTDOOR FITNESS AREA AND MORE.
THEN WITHIN THE APARTMENTS, WE LIKE TO BRING HIGH-QUALITY ELEMENTS INTO THE UNIT SO ALL THE KITCHEN WILL HAVE COURTS, COUNTERTOPS, STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES, BACKLIT CABINETS.
THEN IN THE BATHROOMS WILL HAVE COURTS, COUNTERTOPS, BACKLIT MIRRORS, COMBINATION OF WALK-IN SHOWER'S AND TUBS.
THEN EVERY SINGLE UNIT WILL HAVE WALK-IN CLOSETS AS WELL.
TRY TO BRING HIGH-QUALITY THERE LOTS OF NATURAL LIGHT CAN FIT KING OR QUEEN SIZE BED IN THE BEDROOMS. THAT'S IT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR US.
>> THANK YOU. CAN I MAKE A COMMENT THAT I THINK YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF PRESENTING YOUR PROJECT THIS EVENING BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE YOU SHOWING US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, YOU TOLD US HOW YOU WERE INSPIRED TO DESIGN THE LOOK THAT YOU'D LOOKED AT ON AN EXISTING BUILDING AND ANNA, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DENSITY AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
LIKE I SAID, EXCELLENT JOB PRESENTING.
I HOPE THAT OTHER GROUPS WILL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST DID IN THE MATTER OF TWO-MINUTE PERIOD AND TAKE THAT HARD.
I THOUGHT YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARVER.
I HAVE A SECOND BY THE MAYOR PROTEM. ALL IN FAVOR?
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>> COUNCIL MEMBER CARVER? [NOISE]
>> ACTUALLY IT'S BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT AS THE PUBLIC FACILITIES PROPOSE.
>> BOARD MEMBER TOTEN? [LAUGHTER]
>> PRESIDENT CARVER? [LAUGHTER]
>> I LIKE THAT. YES. [LAUGHTER]
>> GOING TO MOVE ON TO AUTOMATE,
[8. Closed Session]
WHICH IS CLOSED SESSION UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, CITY COUNCILMEN AND CLOSE TO DISCUSS ANY ITEMS, LIST YOUR REFERENCES ON THE AGENDA UNDER THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS.A, CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING PITTING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551071.
B, DISCUSSING DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.072.
C, DISCUSS DELIBERATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.087 AND D, DISCUSS DELIBERATE PERSONNEL MATTERS.
TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.074, ANNUAL REVIEW OF LEGAL SERVICES AND CITY MANAGER, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ENTER CLOSED SESSION AT 8:03 P.M.
>> HAVE A SECOND. BY COUNCILMAN TOKE. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> YES. ENTERING CLOSE DATE 04
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.