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>> WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum.]
THE CITY OF ANNA WILL MEETING ON APRIL 11 2023, 06:00 P.M. IN THE ANNA MUNICIPAL COMPLEX CHAMBER COUNCIL IS LOCATED AT 0120 WEST SEVENTH STREET TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ONCE AGAIN, WELCOME TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING.IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN OPEN SESSION AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT A YELLOW SPEAKER OPINION REGISTRATION FORM, AND PLEASE TURN THAT INTO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING GETS STARTED.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS CALLING ROLL.
ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING.
I WILL GIVE AN INVOCATION AND FOLLOW THAT WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> HEAVENLY FATHER GOD, I'VE JUST COME TO YOU THIS EVENING AND JUST GIVE YOU PRAISE AND THANKS FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
GOD, I JUST PRAY THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AS A COMMUNITY THAT WE WILL USE YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE IN ALL OF OUR DECISION-MAKING.
I JUST COME TO YOU THIS EVENING AND JUST PRAY FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WE KNOW THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH SOME HEALTH ISSUES RIGHT NOW, GOD, I JUST LIFT THOSE INDIVIDUALS UP FOR COMPLETE HEALING AND WE PRAY ALL OF THIS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
>> PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NEIGHBORS COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
[3. Neighbor Comments.]
I DO HAVE TWO SPEAKER FORMS THIS EVENING AND AS A REMINDER, DURING NEIGHBORS COMMENTS, PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO A THREE-MINUTE PERIOD.WE WILL HAVE A TIMER THAT GOES OFF AND AT THAT TIME, WE'LL HAVE TO ASK YOU TO STOP TO GIVE TIME FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
I DO HAVE TWO FORMS THIS EVENING, MR. JIM LUSCHKA.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL OR AFTERNOON COUNCIL.
I'M JIM LUSCHKA. ADDRESS IS 1303 WEST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD.
I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS FOR A WHILE, BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, SMILING FACES.
WANTED TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT ADAM FIVE, I BELIEVE IT IS THIS FERGUSON PARKWAY REALIGNMENT.
THIS CITY CAME TO THE LUSCHKA FAMILY, I MEAN, WE LIVE OUT ON WEST FOSTER CROSSING ROAD.
THERE'S ONE BRANCH ON THE NORTH SIDE ANOTHER BRANCH ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
CITY CAME TO US ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, SAYS, WE NEED TO GET FERGUSON PUNCHED ON THROUGH TO THE OUTER LOOP AND WE'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU'D COOPERATE WITH US AND NOT MAKE TOO BIG A FUSS ABOUT IT.
WE SAID, WELL, WE DON'T CARE FOR IT, BUT WE CAN BE HELPFUL.
BUT WE'D LIKE TO NEGOTIATE A LITTLE BIT AS TO THE ALIGNMENT.
WE GOT ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS TOGETHER, WE GOT THE CITY TOGETHER AND COUNSEL TOGETHER, THE ENGINEER THAT DREW ROAD PLANS AND WE CAME UP AFTER THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS WITH THE PLAN, WE CALL IT PLAN D, THAT EVERYBODY GAVE A LITTLE BIT AND WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT.
WE WROTE THAT AGREEMENT DOWN, WE DREW IT UP ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND WE HANDED THAT TO THE CITY.
I WANT TO REMIND THE CITY THAT WE HAVE THAT, I'LL GIVE IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
AS TIME GOES BY, THE LAND ON THE NORTH SIDE HAS COME DOWN THROUGH TWO GENERATIONS OF LUSCHKAS AND THAT BUNCH WAS READY TO GET THE MONEY.
THEY'VE GOT A DEVELOPER READY TO GIVE THEM THE MONEY.
THEN WE GOT HER OWN THOUGHTS ON THAT, THAT'S BETWEEN US.
BUT AS PART OF THAT, THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO CHANGE THE ALIGNMENT THAT WE AGREED UPON FIVE YEARS AGO FOR THEIR PURPOSES AND WE'RE COMING TO REMIND THE CITY, THAT WE'VE GOT AN AGREEMENT, WE DID A DEAL.
WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO STICK WITH THE DEAL AND TO NOT LET THE DEVELOPER INFLUENCE YOU INTO MOVING THAT ALIGNMENT.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT THAT SIMPLE.
I'VE GOT FURTHER DETAILS BEHIND IT IF YOU NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THEM, BUT THAT'S THE STORY.
BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> MARTHA MCDOWELL. ANY OTHERS OF NEIGHBORS, COMMENTS? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 4,
[4. Reports]
RECEIVE REPORTS FROM STAFF OR THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTERESTS.I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING FOR NON-PROFIT APPRECIATION DAY ON APRIL 22ND, 2023.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANY REPRESENTATIVES HERE WITH US KERRY THIS EVENING BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THIS.
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NON-PROFIT APPRECIATION DAY, APRIL 22ND, 2023, WHEREAS NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN COLLIN COUNTY HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO BRING PROGRAMS, INITIATIVES, AND SUPPORT TO OUR RESIDENTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF RELIEF AND ENHANCING ALL MANNERS OF LIFE.WHEREAS IT IS FITTING AND PROPER TO FORMALLY RECOGNIZE THESE MAGNIFICENT ORGANIZATIONS, GREAT AND SMALL WITH THEIR OWN DAY OF APPRECIATION.
WHEREAS LABORING IN THE FIELD TOGETHER RESOURCES AND REFERRALS WAS ESTABLISHED WITH THE INTENT OF ELEVATING PUBLIC AWARENESS OF ATTRACTING SUPPORT FOR AND CONNECTING NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO THOSE IN NEED.
WHEREAS LIFT R&R, AS WELL AS OTHER SUPPORTERS AROUND THE WORLD DECLARE THAT NON-PROFIT WORK IS CRITICAL TO ACHIEVING EQUITY, SUSTAINABLE QUALITY OF LIFE, AND OVERALL ENHANCEMENT OF MORALE.
WHEREAS WE UNDERSTAND AND ACKNOWLEDGE, THAT OUR COMMUNITIES BENEFIT VASTLY FROM THE PASSIONATE ENGAGEMENT AND SERVICE PROVIDED BY NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY OF ANNA AND ABROAD.
NOW, NATE PIKE, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANNA DO RECOGNIZE APRIL 22, 2023 IS NON-PROFIT APPRECIATION DAY.
COUNCIL, ANY OTHER ITEMS UNDER REPORTS? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR WORK SESSION.
[5. Work Session]
A IS DISCUSSED PROPOSED MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ZONING AND FUTURE OF FERGUSON PARKWAY REALIGNMENT.>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY STAFF HAS BEEN APPROACHED A FEW MONTHS BACK REGARDING REQUEST TO REZONE A TRACK OF LAND THAT IS PART OF THE PECAN GROVE SUBDIVISION THAT WAS REZONED MANY YEARS AGO.
IT ALSO INCLUDED A TRACK OF LAND THAT IS LOCATED IN THE ETJ AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND REQUEST, THE APPLICANT WAS LOOKING TO REALIGN THE ROADWAY TO BASICALLY FACILITATE A BETTER DESIGN ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR PROJECT.
IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, WE HAD IDENTIFIED THE CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REALIGNMENT OF THE ROADWAY AS WELL AS WORK THAT HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE BY THE CITY.
BUT WE FELT IT WOULD BE BEST TO WORKSHOP THE ITEM THAT WAY THE APPLICANT OR ACTUALLY ANTHONY DAVIDSON, HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT FOR COASTAL RIDGE, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO COME BEFORE YOU TO JUST LET YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE PRIOR TO THEM IF THEY ARE TO SUBMIT IN THE ZONING REQUEST.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO SUBMIT IN THE SONY REQUEST, BUT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT POINTING DEVELOPERS IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I KNOW ANTHONY DAVIDSON IS HERE WITH A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
>> THANKS, ROSS. APPRECIATE IT AND THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND COME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HERE.
AS ROSS MENTIONED, I'VE BEEN DOWN HERE SEVERAL TIMES TO MEET WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT CREW.
I FEEL LIKE I GOT TO GET A DEAL DONE HERE.
WE'VE CIRCLED IN ON THE MAP AND LOOKED AT THREE OR FOUR DEALS HERE AND MET WITH STAFF AND THERE ARE MORE THAN HELPFUL.
AND DEFINITELY THINK THAT THE CITY OF ANNA HAS DONE A GREAT JOB FUTURE-PROOFING AS BEST AS YOU CAN FOR THE GROWTH THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HAD DONE IN TEXAS, ARE CURRENTLY DOING A DEAL DOWN IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.
AND YOU'D GO AROUND THE SUBURBS IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF AUSTIN AND YOU SEE THE UTILITY ISSUES OF THESE PLACES HAVE AND I JUST THINK THAT WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, IT'S A REALLY GOOD JOB.
NOT A LOT OF SITES WE CAN GO TO AND SEE UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE AND READY FOR OUR USE AND FOR OUR TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE ROOM HERE REGARDING THIS DEAL, AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IT DOES AS PROPOSED, REQUIRE A RELOCATION OF THE ROAD.
HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXHIBIT HERE THAT SHOWS HOW WE WOULD PROPOSE STRAIGHTENING THE FUTURE FERGUSON PARKWAY EXTENSION STRAIGHT SOUTH FROM WHERE IT COMES ACROSS SLATER CREEK.
WHAT THAT DOES FOR US IN OUR WORLD IS WE ARE PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED OPERATION AND LEAST COMPANY, WE HAVE ABOUT $4 BILLION WORTH OF REAL ESTATE ASSETS UNDER MANAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN HOW WE TREAT OUR INSTITUTIONAL ASSETS AND OUR INVESTORS IN THIS AND TO DO SO, WE TYPICALLY DO DEVELOPMENTS IN THE RANGE OF 225-300 UNITS.
IT'S GOOD EFFICIENCIES OF SCALE.
VERY HIGHLY MONETIZED DEVELOPMENTS WITH PLUS OR MINUS 5,000 SQUARE FOOT CLUBHOUSES, RESORT STYLE POOLS, WALKING PAST, DOG PARKS, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO THAT'S OUR TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT.
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I'VE TALKED TO COUNCILMAN TOTEN IN THE PAST, JUST OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTANDING THAT HE LIVES IN THE PICABIA OF ONE, JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT NEIGHBORS WANT TO SEE, WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE, WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TURNED AWAY FOR AND SUCH.WE'VE COME DOWN AND WE MET WITH ROSS AND HIS TEAM A COUPLE OF TIMES AND FREEDOM MEETINGS.
ULTIMATELY, THIS IS A PLAN APPEAR ON THE SCREEN THAT WE'VE COME TO.
AS YOU'LL SEE, WE'VE KEPT THE HARD CORNER OF FUTURE FERGUSON PARKWAY AND FOSTER CROSSING AS A POTENTIAL AREA FOR OUR DETENTION PILOTS.
USUALLY ONE OF THE BETTER LANDSCAPED AREAS AND NICE CORNER WITH OUR CLUBHOUSE COMING IN OFF WITH FOSTER CROSSINGS.
THIS PLAN RIGHT HERE CONTEMPLATES PLUS OR MINUS 285 UNITS.
WE BUILD A PRODUCT THAT RANGES FROM ONE BEDROOMS, TWOS AND THREES.
AND WE DO A DUPLEXED ONE-BEDROOM UNITS.
OUR TWO BEDROOMS WE TYPICALLY DO A ONE STORY TO BETTER RANCH AND A TWO-STORY JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF VARIATIONS INTO DEVELOPMENT NOT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE COOKIE CUTTERS GOING ACROSS THE SITES.
AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, OUR CLUBHOUSE, IT CONSISTS OF A RESORT STYLE POOL FITNESS CENTER, CLUB ROOM, DOG PARK, WALKING PATHS REALLY WANT TO CREATE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY WITH RESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF PICABIA OF ONE THAT WE TOUCHED AND WE'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST TRYING TO KEEP MOST OF OUR ONE STORY BUILDINGS UP NEXT TO IT.
ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS OUR RENTAL RATES IN THIS, OUR MARKET RATES.
IN THIS DEAL, WE'RE LOOKING AT RATES OF AROUND 1,750 A MONTH FROM OUR ONE BEDROOMS TO $2,750 A MONTH FOR OUR THREE BEDROOMS. WELL, IT'S INTERESTING RIGHT NOW IS IN OUR DEALS WE ARE FINALLY UNDERWRITING OR NOT.
I SHOULDN'T SAY, BUT WE'RE UNDERWRITING DEALS TO WHERE UNFORTUNATELY, THE COST OF OWNERSHIP HAS NOW EXCEEDED THE COST OF RENTING EVEN WITHOUT THE DOWNPAYMENT.
WE'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT IT AS IT'S A COST OF A FUNCTION OF WHAT'S THE RENTAL RATE VERSUS WHAT'S SOMEBODY'S POTENTIAL MONTHLY PAYMENT WITH MORTGAGE AND INTEREST AND TAX AND SUCH.
NOW WITH INTEREST RATES WHERE THEY ARE, IT'S ACTUALLY FLIPPED TO WHERE WE DON'T NEED TO WEIGH IN ON.
I THINK PROBABLY ANNA'S PROBABLY AVERAGE IS AROUND $425,000 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE SALE PRICE.
FOR THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY A $3,000 A MONTH PAYMENT WITH AN $85,000 DOWN PAYMENT.
SO WE DO SEE A LOT OF THE COUNTRY GOING THIS WAY OF THE RENTAL ROUTE.
AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE PROVIDED VERY, VERY QUALITY PRODUCT THAT WE DON'T DO THE SINGLE-FAMILY FOREVER.
WE DON'T PLOT THE LAND, WE DON'T HAVE INDIVIDUALLY PLOTTED LANDS.
IT SHOULD BE ONE PLAT OF PLUS OR MINUS 27 ACRES.
TOTAL PROJECT COST ENDS UP IN THE 65 TO $70,000,000 RANGE.
SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S A VERY INSTITUTIONAL PROJECT THAT WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN AND WE TAKE VERY, VERY GOOD MAINTENANCE AND CARE OF THE DEALS.
BASING IT ON WHAT OUR RENTS ARE AT THE MOMENT, AND I APOLOGIZE, 75 TO $80,000,000 PROJECT BASED UPON WHAT THAT IS.
AND AT A STABILIZED AD VALOREM, REAL ESTATE TAXES WOULD CREATE ABOUT A $1,000,000 REAL ESTATE TAX AT FULL STABILIZATION CURRENTLY WOULD LOOK AT THIS DEAL.
IF IT WERE APPROVED, CONSTRUCTION START PROBABLY AROUND JUNE 1 OF 2024, END OF CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE END OF 2025.
SO THEY'RE TYPICALLY ABOUT A 22-24 MONTH BUILD WITH STABILIZATION ENDING UP ABOUT SIX MONTHS AFTER CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION.
ALONG WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE WITH THE AD VALOREM REAL ESTATE TAXES, PROVIDING THE IMPACT FEES AND THE WATER FEES AND THE TRAFFIC AND PARKING FEES AND SUCH.
THE DEDICATION OR RIGHT-OF-WAY AS REQUIRED FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS TO FOSTER CROSSING, THE DEDICATION OF RIGHT AWAY FOR THE FUTURE FERGUSON PARKWAY LOOKING AT ALL THOSE THINGS ALONG WITH THE DEAL.
BUT AS ROSS MENTIONED IN THE OUTSET HERE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] AND FAMILY ALONG WITH STAFF FOR SEVERAL MONTHS JUST TRYING TO GET TO A PLAN THAT WOULD BE WORKABLE AND ALLOWABLE BY THE CITY.
WE DO FEEL LIKE A HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS TRACK WOULD BE THIS TYPE OF DEAL.
I'M GUESSING YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF THE SLOWDOWN IN THE FOUR CONSTRUCTION STARTS AND BUILDING PERMITS STARTS,
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AS WE'VE SEEN IN SOME OF THE OTHER MARKETS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.I THINK THAT WRAPS UP WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT PRESENTING HERE AS FAR AS LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS AS TWO THINGS THAT WOULD WORK, WOULD NOT WORK.
AGAIN, WHAT ROSS SAID IS THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE REALIGNMENT OF THE FUTURE FERGUSON PARKWAY.
>> ONE MORE THING TO NOTE HERE.
WE DON'T CONTROL THE REST OF THE LAND UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S SHOWING WHAT THE SELLER AT THE MOMENT HAS SAID THEY'RE AMENABLE TO KEEPING FOR A FUTURE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL LOCATION, WHICH I KNOW IN THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE CITY OF ANNA.
THIS IS VERY HIGH ON YOUR LIST.
IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THIS AREA TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR BEING THAT FERGUSON PARKWAY IS GOING TO RELIEVE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC OFF OF HIGHWAY 5.
FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS, CUT THROUGH THROUGH THE CITY, GETTING YOU OUT TO THE OUTER LOOP. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I COULD ADDRESS?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL SAY IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT, NOT A QUESTION.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I WAS PART OF THE FERGUSON DISCUSSION WITH THE FAMILY, WITH BOTH SIDES OF THE FAMILY.
I THINK THE HARDEST PART I'M GOING TO HAVE IN THIS IS I DO RECALL COMING TO AN AGREEMENT ON AN ALIGNMENT FOR THE FUTURE OF FERGUSON PARKWAY, AND I DO RECALL LOOKING AT THE FAMILY AS A WHOLE AND AGREEING THAT EVERYBODY WAS ON THE SAME PAGE.
THIS IS BACK IN 2017 TIME-FRAME, BUT WE HAD A CONCEPT PLAN OF THAT FINAL ALIGNMENT THAT WE VOTED ON AT THAT TIME.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE HARDEST PART FOR ME, IS KNOWING THAT WHAT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IS YOU HAVE TWO SIDES OF THE ROAD AND YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF THE FAMILY THAT ONE WANTS ONE THING AND THE OTHER DOESN'T WANT THE OTHER.
I WORKED PRETTY HARD DURING THAT TIME TO MAKE SURE WE COULD COME TO AN AGREEMENT, WHICH WE DID SO THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
I THINK THE HARDEST PART OF THIS WOULD BE COMING TO AN AGREEMENT THAT EVERYONE CAN LIVE WITH ON THE ALIGNMENT OF FERGUSON PARKWAY.
>> THEN I'LL QUESTION THE DEVELOPMENT AND I'M NOT DOUBTING THE PRODUCT AT ALL.
IT'S ALL BRAND NEW TO EVERYBODY AROUND HERE, I THINK.
IT'S NOT A PROVEN PRODUCT YET.
MAYBE 10 YEARS, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE THE NEW THING.
I'VE SAID IT IN ANOTHER LOCATION WE RECENTLY HAD COME TO IN FRONT OF US.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN THIS LOCATION.
ROSS, ISN'T THIS ZONE, WHERE ARE YOU AT, ROSS? THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL PHASE 2 AND 3 OF PECAN GROVE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND IT'S ALREADY ZONE SINGLE-FAMILY 72?
>> CORRECT. AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL ZONING, THIS TRACK OF LAND WAS IDENTIFIED THE MAJORITY TO CARRY FORWARD THE SF72 PRODUCT.
AGAIN, THE AREA THAT IS, I GUESS IT WOULD BE WEST OF FUTURE FERGUSON, IS CURRENTLY ZONED TO ALLOW FOR AN SF60 SF72 PRODUCT.
>> YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING FOR REALIGNMENT OF FERGUSON, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A REZONING?
>> US TAKING AWAY SINGLE-FAMILY 72, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THAT IN ANNA.
THAT TO ME, FERGUSON REALIGNMENT IS NUMBER 1, BUT THEN NUMBER 2 WE JUST TAKEN AWAY SINGLE-FAMILY 72S AND ADDING THESE 12 UNITS PER ACRE.
MAN, THAT'S A LOT OF TINY LITTLE HOMES NEXT TO A NICE QUIET COMMUNITY.
IT'S JUST HARD. NOTICE IN LOOKING AT THE MAP, THERE'S PECAN GROVE MADE THE NATIONAL NEWS ONE TIME BECAUSE THE BUILDER WAS FLOODING HOMES BECAUSE THE WAY THEY LEFT THE LAND OR WHATEVER
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AND THAT HILL IS STILL THERE AND I THINK IT'S OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE.THERE'S NO PLANS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU'VE EVEN DISCUSSED THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIRT THERE, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD MAKE THINGS WORSE.
LIKE I TOLD YOU ON THE PHONE, AND LET ME ASK YOU THIS, I'LL ASK YOU THIS IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
I'LL ASK YOU, DOES A ROAD MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO YOUR PRODUCT, TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT?
>> TO OUR DENSITY OR TO OUR UNIT COUNT, IT DOES, YES.
TO GO BACK TO A COUPLE OF YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS, WE HAVE TALKED TO THE OWNER OF THE 2.8 ACRES THAT ACTUALLY IS A HALF-MOON SHAPE THERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS LAND THAT IS OWNED BY THE, I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF PECAN GROVE 1.
IN ALL HONESTY, WE NEEDED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY TO RELOCATE THIS FUTURE ROAD.
THERE GETS A TIME THAT YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME, ENERGY, AND EFFORT ON A DEAL AND YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S A PATH FORWARD AND IF THERE'S A PATH FORWARD, WE ARE 100% READY, WILLING, AND ABLE TO [NOISE] DO THAT.
BUT WOULD WE DO AT 20 ACRE DEAL? THE ECONOMICS ARE DIFFERENT.
OBVIOUSLY, IN THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS, WE'VE ALL FELT THAT NO MATTER PROBABLY WHAT BUSINESS WE'RE IN, BUT WITH THE INTEREST RATES WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THE BEST DEAL THAT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN DO IN THIS ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW.
WHEN YOU DO THE PRODUCT THAT WE DO WITH HIGHLY MONETIZED AND THE BIG 5,000 SQUARE FOOT CLUBHOUSE THAT COST US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO, WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EFFICIENCIES TO SPREAD THOSE FIXED COSTS THAT WE GET.
>> BUT WHAT STUDIES SHOW THAT A PRODUCT LIKE THIS HIGH DENSITY MAKES SENSE RIGHT THERE?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A SPECIFICALLY RIGHT THERE.
I WILL SAY THIS IS A BURGEONING PRODUCT TYPE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, SPECIFICALLY IN THE SOUTH WHERE ALL OF US NORTHERNERS ARE MOVING TO, [LAUGHTER] BUT WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING AND WE CAN BRING UP IF YOU DON'T MIND, KEVIN BRING IT UP OUR SITE PLANS AND THE DEALS THAT WE'RE GOING VERTICAL ON RIGHT NOW.
>> A PRODUCT LIKE THIS MAKES MORE SENSE WHERE A FOUR STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX, LIKE OFF OF A HIGHWAY, OFF OF A MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
A PRODUCT LIKE THIS MAKES MORE SENSE THERE.
>> WELL, SHOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT.
THE METRICS THAT I THREW OUT EARLIER THAT I BELIEVE YOUR AVERAGE HOME PRICE RIGHT NOW IN ANNA, AND GOOD FOR YOU GUYS.
IT'S A GREAT TOWN AND IT'S DOING WELL ECONOMICALLY, I HOPE, IS THAT HOUSES ARE $425,000 ON AN AVERAGE ON, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT STARTER, BUT THAT'S AN AVERAGE HOUSE.
THAT'S A $3,000 A MONTH PAYMENT RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S AN $85,000 DOWN PAYMENT AT 20%.
WE CAN ALL DO IT IN OUR HEAD OF HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN TRULY AFFORD A $3,000 MORTGAGE A MONTH AND AN $85,000 PAYMENT.
THE PRODUCT THAT WE PROVIDE HERE VERY MUCH LOOKS LIKE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
I THINK IT GIVES THE YOUNGER FAMILIES THAT MAYBE THE EMPTY NESTERS, A SENSE OF HOME OWNERSHIP WITHOUT HAVING THAT TYPE OF MAINTENANCE LIABILITY, WITHOUT HAVING THE TAXES WITH YOU GET A RESORT STYLE SWIMMING POOL, YOU GET A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
HERE'S SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS WE DO, SOME OF THE FINISHES THAT WE DO.
YOU HAVE A PLUG-AND-PLAY APARTMENT READY TO GO FOR YOURSELVES WHEN YOU MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE 1,300 SQUARE FOOT HOME AND YOU WANT TO LIVE IN ANNA, YOU WANT TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE CREATED, THE FOOTBALL TEAM YOU GUYS HAVE CREATED RECENTLY.
THESE ARE THE UNITS THAT WE BUILT AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE.
THESE ARE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING VERTICAL CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE ONE IN WELLEN PARK IN SARASOTA, FLORIDA METRO, WE HAVE ONE IN AVERY CENTER, WHICH IS ROUND ROCK, TEXAS, AND WE HAVE ONE IN STILLWELL JEROME IN COLUMBUS, ALL THREE OF THOSE AREAS HAVE THAT SAME STORY OF A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING INTO THOSE AREAS.
THEY LEASE UP 15-20 UNITS A MONTH WHICH RIGHT NOW WITH SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM OUR CONSULTANTS IS A HIGHER RATE.
THEY DO COMMAND A PREMIUM TO LIVING IN A THREE-STORY OR FOUR-STORY WALK-UP BUILDING.
THERE'S NOBODY LIVING TO THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT UNLESS YOU'RE IN A DUPLEX ONE.
THERE'S NOBODY LIVING IN THE LEFT OF YOU OR THE RIGHT OF YOU. THERE'S NO SOUND.
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I FEEL LIKE IT'S A COMMUNITY THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE OF HOME-OWNERSHIP.I DO FEEL AND I BELIEVE YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT WHERE THE SINGLE-FAMILY FOR RENT, WHICH US DEVELOPERS HAVE BUILT FOR RENT FIELD IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRODUCT.
THERE'S A $250,000 HOUSE ON THAT LOT OR $400,000 HOUSE THAT AT SOME POINT COULD BE SOLD OFF AS JUST A SINGLE HOUSES BECAUSE THEY'RE PLAID, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PIN NUMBER.
THIS IS A 30 ACRE, $70 MILLION INSTITUTIONAL ASSET THAT'S GOING TO BE CARED FOR.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE PUTTING IN A LOT OF BANK LOANS ON THIS STUFF IN INSTITUTIONAL EQUITY PARTNERS SO YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF IT.
I THINK OUTSIDE OF GETTING SOME 72 SQUARE FOOT HOME OR A 7,200 SQUARE FOOT LOTS NEXT TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT THERE, I THINK IN A RENTAL WORLD, THIS IS THE NICEST TYPE OF COMMUNITY.
IF I WERE LIKE YOU AND LIVE NEXT DOOR, THAT I WOULD WANT NEXT TO ME.
>> DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THAT, BUT I'M NOT KNOCKING YOUR PRODUCT AT ALL, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
I GUESS THIS IS A WORK SESSION, SO WE'RE WANT TO GIVE FEEDBACK AND STUFF.
I LIKE THE PRODUCT, I JUST DON'T.
THE ROAD NUMBER 1 AND THE 285 LOTS, THESE TINY HOMES IN THAT LOCATION.
IT'S JUST NOT FOR ME RIGHT THERE.
IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT THERE.
WHO'S TO SAY I DON'T MOVE IN TWO YEARS BEFORE ANYTHING TURNS TO DIRT.
IT MAKES NO SENSE RIGHT THERE.
I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION, BUT THAT'S MY THING RIGHT THERE.
>> I APPRECIATE CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK ALL THE TIME FOR SURE.
I WILL SAY THAT ON A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SEVEN HOMES PER ACRE ON THAT LOT.
IN OURS, YES, IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN FOR US, WE WOULD END UP WITH A MULTI-FAMILY ONE ZONING DESIGNATION WHICH ALLOWS FOR 12 UNITS PER ACRE.
BUT IN TEXAS WITH OUR OWN STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WITH OUR OWN PLAN ON-SITE TO ALLEVIATE STORMWATER ISSUES AND WITH OUR CLUBHOUSE AND WITH OUR POOL, WE SHAKE OUT AROUND THE 10 TO TENANT IN A QUARTER UNITS PER ACRE.
REALLY, YES, WE ARE DENSER THAN WHAT A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT WOULD BE BUT BY A COUPLE OF HOMES PER THE ACRE.
>> COUNCILMAN, OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC FOR THE PRESENTER BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARK.
THAT AGREEMENT FROM 2017, WHICH I HAVE NOT SEEN, IS THAT A BINDING AGREEMENT AT ALL? CAN YOU TELL ME OR IS THAT A CLOSED SESSION?
>> YEAH. THAT'S A CLOSED SESSION.
>> ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> JOEY, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU IN THE SUBJECT SINCE IT IS A WORK SESSION.
THAT 30 ACRE PLOT OVER THERE, CAN YOU GIVE ME JUST A BALLPARK? I WOULDN'T HOLD YOU TO IT OBVIOUSLY, WHAT THE AVERAGE ACREAGE WOULD COST OVER THERE FOR THAT 30 ACRE PROPERTY?
>> I'M DOING MY MATH RIGHT NOW.
>> I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY ANY OF YOUR TRADE SECRETS EITHER.
>> I DON'T HAVE MY OWN APPRAISAL COMPANY, BUT I'VE TAUGHT ENOUGH PEOPLE. THANK YOU.
>> WE ARE CONTEMPLATING 27 RIGHT NOW.
I THINK 20, 21 IF THE ROAD DOESN'T MOVE RIGHT?
>> I WOULD SAY APPROXIMATELY 6 TO $8 MILLION FOR THAT PROPERTY.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S WHEN SKORBURG PROBABLY PURCHASES PROPERTY FOR SINGLE-FAMILY WAS PROBABLY PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR.
THE INFLUENCE ON THAT MARKET IS ANNA TOWN SQUARE FOSTER CROSSING IT'S RIGHT OFF THE OUTER LOOP.
IT IS PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE PRIMO, IT'S GOT INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALWAYS GOING TO RAISE THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT.
BUT WE'RE SEEING LAND PRICES NOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED THEY'RE TRIPLE WHAT THEY WERE, AS WE KNOW FROM OUR BUSINESS PARK, LAND PRICES HAVE ESSENTIALLY DOUBLED TO ALMOST TRIPLE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.
>> JUST USING THEM, I'M JUST ROUGHING THE NUMBERS OUT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH NUMBERS ALL DAY MY HEAD HURTS.
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SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 250 AND $300,000 AN ACRE, SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK ON TOP OF THE COST FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, COST OF THE HOUSE ITSELF.>> INFRASTRUCTURE COST, INCREASED INTEREST RATES, COST OF CONSTRUCTION HAS GONE UP SO PENCILING THESE DEALS, I'M SURE IS THAT.
>> IN ORDER TO PUT A 72 IN THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND, YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE PROBABLY, THAT'S WHY THIS IS HAPPENING THE WAY IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE NOBODY CAN AFFORD THAT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME WIGGLE THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY, THOSE PRICES AREN'T GOING TO COME DOWN WHERE YOU CAN GET 72 OUNCE OR 72 MUST BE THIRSTY AT 72 IT JUST WON'T WORK, YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT.
>> THAT'S A DIFFERENT ARGUMENT.
IF YOU'RE ASKING WHY SOMEBODY HAS TO HAVE THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF PRODUCT, THAT'S THE REASON, IT'S ALL REAL ESTATE PRICES, IT'S THE MARKET.
THAT'S THE WAY THE MARKET IS GOING YOU HAVE TO AT SOME POINT SAY, WELL, OKAY. I'LL BE HONEST.
THE FIRST TIME, FIRST FOUR OR FIVE OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY FOR RENT THINGS I SAW, I DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THEM, BUT I'M STARTING TO WARM UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER THAN APARTMENTS.
BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MARKET SHIFTS BACK.
>> IT WILL. THAT'S MY CONCERN WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF THOSE APARTMENTS ARE CONSISTENT TO AN EXTENT, BUT THAT'S WHY THAT'S HAPPENING.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN THERE, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF I'D BE ALL FOR IT TOO, BUT NOT THAT LAND IN THAT PLACE AT THIS TIME YOU CAN'T GET THERE ANYWAY THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHAT WOULD BE THE COST OF THE CITY TO CHANGE WHERE THAT ROAD IS GOING TO GO. DO WE KNOW?
>> I THINK WHAT WE CAN TELL YOU IS WHAT MONEY WE'VE SPENT UP TO THIS POINT WORKING ON THE DESIGN OF IT.
THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE SPEND UP TO THIS POINT.
WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS WE CAN SHARE BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT WILL COST MOVING FORWARD.
>> BUT IT WOULD BE AN EXPENSE TO CHANGE?
>> IT WOULD BE AN EXPENSE, YES.
>>I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ONE WAS THE NEW ALIGNMENT I SEE THE BURL LANE THAT'S IN THE FIRST PECAN GROVE AREA, WOULD THAT CONNECT TO THAT ROAD? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CONNECT THAT?
>>I ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXHIBIT FROM [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH ROSS AND TEAM, WE WENT THROUGH THAT.
NOW, I WILL BE HONEST, WE WOULDN'T LOVE TO DO.
WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS CREATE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND KEEP THAT COMMUNITY IN GATED IF, OUR COMPETITORS ARE DOING GATED IN THE MARKET AND I THINK NEXT METRO UP ON 75 IS DOING GATED.
WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO FOLLOW OUR COMP SET, AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN SOME OF OUR PROGRAMMATIC STUFF.
WE WORKED WITH ROSS AND HIS TEAM AND HAD MENTIONED THAT BERLIN WAS ALWAYS THOUGHT TO BE BROUGHT THROUGH, WE DO HAVE AN EXHIBIT IN YOUR PACKET IF YOU EVER [OVERLAPPING]
>> I SAW THAT. BUT ON THE MAP IT HAS GONE ALL THE WAY, IT'S A CONCEPT PLAN.
THEN IN MY SECOND QUESTION IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN REALLY GETTING TO ME IS I'M TIRED OF HEARING MARKET RATE I WISH WE COULD GET INCOME-BASED.
I KNOW TIMES ARE GOING TO FIX AND GET ROUGH AND $2,000 PLUS RENT IS NOT MARKETABLE IN SOME PEOPLE'S INCOMES AND I'M AFRAID WE'RE OUT PRICING OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE CITY.
THAT WHEN WE START HAVING SOME HOME ISSUES, PEOPLE LOSE THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF MARKET VALUE AND THE TAXES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE GOT TO HAVE A INCOME-BASED TYPE OF PRODUCT AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY IN ANNA.
I WISH MORE EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE WHOLE THING, HALF OF IT OR 25% SOMETHING WHERE THE AFFORDABILITY FOR HOMES IN ANNA RENTALS OR EVEN I KNOW IT'S HARDER TO ON A REGULAR HOME RIGHT NOW VALUES, BUT WE JUST GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING AFFORDABLE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS WHEN TIMES ARE GETTING ROUGH WITH INFLATION.
>>I RESPECT THAT 100%, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, GOING BACK TO COUNCILMAN MILLER'S COMMENTS WITH CONSTRUCTION PRICING, THEY'VE GONE NOWHERE THEY HAVEN'T GONE DOWN.
WE ALL HEAR NUMBER PRICES GOING DOWN AND
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ESCALATIONS GOING DOWN AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES ARE GOING DOWN.BUT UNFORTUNATELY, AS CONSUMERS OF THOSE PRODUCTS HAVE NOT SEEN IT, IT HASN'T GOTTEN TO US YET.
YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY LIVE IN A STATE WHERE EVERYBODY'S MIGRATING TO.
WITH THAT GOING ON, LAND PRICES AREN'T GOING DOWN, CONSTRUCTION PRICES AREN'T GOING DOWN AND WITHOUT SOME HELP, IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE MARKET RATE PENCIL RIGHT NOW WITH THE RATES WHERE THEY ARE.
I USED TO DO STUDENT HOUSING, I USED TO DO OTHER ASSET CLASSES AND IT'S BROUGHT UP IN EVERY PLANNING, ZONING MEETING, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING AND I 100% AGREE WITH YOU THOUGH.
>> I'M LOOKING AT THE FUTURE I'M JUST HOPING THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO GO BACK DOWN AND THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE SAYING, WHAT DID WE DO THIS FOR YOU? THANK YOU.
>> NO, I GET IT AND YOU GUYS I HAVE ACTUALLY YOUR MULTI-FAMILY MAP THAT'S ON YOUR WEBSITE THAT SHOWS WHERE ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN THAT BEFORE IT'S GREAT, YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED A LOT OF DEALS I GET IT AND YOU WANT TO SEE SOME OF THOSE COME TO FRUITION.
>> WHY NOT GO TO ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS?
>> WHY NOT GO TO ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS?
>> I THINK THERE ARE ALREADY DEALS THAT ARE ALREADY GOING.
>> IT'S 18 OF THEM I'M SURE THERE'S ONE OF THEM OPENED.
>>I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE TO DEAL WITH AS WELL AND IT'S TOUGH TO DEAL WITH.
WE'RE DEALING WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WE ARE DEALING WITH THE SAME THING WHERE THEY'VE APPROVED DEALS THAT MAY NEVER GO, BUT THEY'VE USED UP UTILITIES, THEY'VE USED UP WATER, THEY'VE USED UP FICTITIOUS SEWER CAPACITY AND THE DEALS NEVER GO.
WE UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE FACT THAT IS A TOUGH THING TO DEAL WITH.
>>THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE HFC AND THE PFC FOR THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE DEALS IN THE PIPELINE THAT ARE GOING TO HELP WITH SOME OF THAT INCOME BASED STUFF.
IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE UP TO AN INDEPENDENT PERSON TO DO THAT THING THAT'S LIKE A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.
>> MY TURN. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND BRINGING THIS INTO THE LIGHT.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ONE DAY I APPRECIATE IT.
[LAUGHTER] AS A WORKSTATION INSTEAD OF AS A FINISHED PRODUCT.
AS FAR AS THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING HOMES, FAR AS COMPS AND MARKET PRICES, REAL ESTATE PRICES AND VALUES.
HOW DO YOU SEE THIS PRODUCT? WHAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS PRODUCT? DOES IT INCREASE THE VALUE, LOWER THE VALUE AMBIVALENT?
>> AS FAR AS THE FOR SALE HOMES AROUND IT, I DON'T SEE IT DECREASING IT.
I THINK THE THREE DEALS THAT I JUST HAD ON THE SCREEN, THE ONE IN SARASOTA, VENICE, FLORIDA ACTUALLY BUT SARASOTA NMS SAY, WELL IN PARK, MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, GETS VOTED LIKE THE NUMBER 1 MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTRY BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PUBLICATIONS.
THERE'S PROBABLY 10, NUMBER 1 MASTERPLAN COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTRY, BUT, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING INTO MASTERPLAN COMMUNITIES AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS THESE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE FOUR AND FIVE AND SIX AND $700,000 HOMES IN THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.
THE MASTER DEVELOPER HAS BEEN WANTING TO BRING US IN BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT IT AS EITHER A FEEDER SYSTEM INTO THEIR FORCED SALE HOMES IN THE FUTURE, OR BE SOMEBODY THAT GIVES THEM AN AFFORDABLE PRICE POINT TO GET INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, TO GET INTO YOUR SCHOOLS, TO GET INTO THEIR AMENITY PACKAGES AND SUCH AND NOT IF THEY CAN'T BUY THE $450,000 HOUSE WITH THE $85,000 DOWN PAYMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION PRECISELY, BUT THESE MASTERPLAN COMMUNITIES HAVE BROUGHT US IN AND THEY'RE VERY HIGH-END MASTERPLAN COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY LIKE THAT.
AGAIN, THESE ARE FEEDER SYSTEM OR BRINGING MORE PEOPLE TO THEIR COMMUNITY THROUGH A DIFFERENT VEHICLE.
>> I DON'T THINK THOSE MASTERPLAN COMMUNITIES WOULD BRING US IN IF THEY FELT LIKE IT WOULD BRING THE VALUES OF THEIR FOR-SALE HOMES DOWN.
>> AS FAR AS THE MANAGEMENT OF THESE, DOES YOUR COMPANY MAINTAIN THE MANAGEMENT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> YES. THIS IS JUST A QUICK MARKETING DECK THAT WE HAVE ON US, SO COASTAL RIDGE CURRENTLY, HERE'S A MAP OF SOME OF THE TARGET MARKETS FOR OUR BUILD FOR RENT BUT WE ALSO GO IN HERE AND I MAY HAVE JUST SKIPPED OVER IT.
HERE WE GO. THE $4 BILLION AND THE $35,000 PLUS CONVENTIONAL UNITS AND BEDS IS WHAT WE MANAGED IN HOUSE.
IT'S A COMBINATION OF OWNED AND THIRD-PARTY MANAGEMENT AND LEASE UP.
SO YES, IT WOULD HAVE A FULL-TIME GENERAL MANAGER ON-SITE, WOULD HAVE A FULL-TIME MAINTENANCE PERSON ONSITE,
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PROBABLY A FULL-TIME LEASING MANAGER ON-SITE.IT'S FULL-TIME STAFF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHAT I FEEL SEPARATES US FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY FOR RENT WHERE YOU MAY HAVE SOME HOUSES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S BEING RENTED IN.
THAT RENTER HAS ZERO SKIN IN THE GAME OTHER THAN THEIR RENTAL PAYMENTS SO IT'S VERY, VERY WELL-MAINTAINED.
>> SEEING THAT. I'M SEEING THE DECADE OF IT SO THAT'S GOOD.
THE TOPOGRAPHY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DIRT WORK TO MAKE THIS CONFORM TO A BUILDABLE SPACE.
THIS PRODUCT TYPE DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO A TON OF TYPOGRAPHY JUST DUE TO THE UTILITIES AND SUCH.
THAT WAS ONE THING THAT KEVIN AND I TALKED ABOUT A FEW MONTHS AGO WHERE YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE BERM THAT WAS LEFT BEHIND BETWEEN THIS SITE AND TO GROW ON ONE AND YOUR THOUGHTS AND I 100 PERCENT AGREE WITH IT IS THAT WE WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS' FLOODINGS IN THE BACKYARDS OF THOSE THAT ARE I DON'T KNOW WHAT 8,10 FEET BELOW GRADE FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH.
I DON'T SEE A BUNCH OF FILL BEING BROUGHT IN, BUT I DO SEE US BALANCING THE SITE AND PUSHING SOME OF THAT DIRT FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST TO TRY TO BALANCE IT OUT AS AGAIN OUR PRODUCT DOES REQUIRE A PRETTY FLAT SITE.
>> UNDERSTOOD. THIS IS ALSO GOING TO CHANGE POSTURE, CROSSING QUITE A BIT BECAUSE I WOULD ASSUME THAT ALL THE TREES WILL BE REMOVED ALONG THAT ROADWAY, BUT IT ALSO IS GOING TO REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT ROADWAY.
IS YOUR FIRM PLANNING ON PARTICIPATING IN THAT?
>> YEAH. WE'VE TALKED TO WESTON AND HIS GROUP ON THAT AS WELL DURING THE PRE-DUB MEETINGS AND I ALSO TALKED TO COUNCILMAN TOTEN ON THAT AS WELL.
IF I RECALL, THAT WAS HIS TWO CONCERNS WITH THE FLOODING OF HIS NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD AND B, THE TREES THAT ARE ON FOSTER CROSSINGS AND THE FEELING OF HOME AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN FOSTER CROSSING FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST AND FEELING LIKE YOU'RE OUT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE RURAL AREA.
THE FUTURE PLANS FOR FOSTER CROSSINGS FROM MY RECOLLECTION IS A 60-FOOT RIGHT AWAY, SO THE ROAD WILL BE EXPANDING A DECENT AMOUNT INTO OUR SITE, WHICH WE WOULD HAVE TO DO, OBVIOUSLY A ROADWAY DEDICATION TO DO SO.
I MENTIONED TO COUNCILMAN TOTEN THAT WE WOULD UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO THE RIGHT AWAY EXPANSION OF 60 FEET, WOULD TAKE THOSE OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUTH OR NOT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT NO MATTER WHEN YOU GUYS IMPROVE THAT ROW, THAT'S LIKELY TO HAPPEN THERE RIGHT UP ON TOP OF THE ROAD.
>> YEAH. IT'S PRETTY BUT [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST THING HE BROUGHT UP TO ME WHAT [LAUGHTER].
>> THE ALIGNMENT SHOULD IT NOT SO THEY'RE NOT BEING APPETITE TO CHANGE IT.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU CAN STILL MASSAGE MOST OF THIS PROPERTY TO BE WHAT YOU NEED IT TO BE AND IF YOU MOVE THE DETENTION POND TO THE EAST SIDE OF FERGUSON, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THESE SCENARIOS?
I HAVEN'T WORKED THROUGH WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEER IN ANYTHING ON THAT AS FAR AS HOW THAT OBVIOUSLY, CULVERTS SINCE THINGS GOING UNDER ROADS COULD PROBABLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE UP TO THE SELLER AS TO HOW THEY WANT TO SELL THAT OFF.
OUR UNDERSTANDING AT THE TIME WAS THAT THE CITY WANTED TO KEEP THAT HARD CORNER FOR SOME RETAIL AND OUR COMMERCIAL SO WE WERE TRYING TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
>> TO BE HONEST, I WAS DISAPPOINTED TO NOT SEE THAT SOUTH EAST CORNER WITH SOME RETAIL ON IT WHEN THEY EXPECTING TO SEE A POND.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. HENDERSON.
NOT ONLY IS THERE AN INVESTMENT IN THE ALIGNMENT, ALL THE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A CITY, BUT THIS WOULD ALSO REQUIRE US HAVING TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY AND GETTING THIS REWORKED?
>> YES AND SO THERE'S A CONTRACT PULLING UP THE INFORMATION WHERE WE SPENT 200 AND CONTRACT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FOR $251,000 WORTH OF DESIGN WORK.
THAT'S THE MONEY THAT WE'VE SPENT ON THAT.
BUT YES, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH THE COUNTY ON AN AGREEMENT AND SO IT WOULD REQUIRE US TO GO BACK TO THEM FOR THAT AS WELL.
UNDERSTAND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN TALK ABOUT FORMAL, INFORMAL, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, BUT WE SPENT MONEY AND NOT TO SAY WE CAN'T SPEND MORE MONEY ON THIS IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, BUT WE'VE EXPENDED RESOURCES ON THIS
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AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY AND REWORK WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TOO, IF THEY'D ENTERTAIN IT.>> REFERENCING THE MEETING THAT MR. VASQUEZ MENTIONED EARLIER, MY UNDERSTANDING FOR THE COUNCIL WAS HERE AND THE STAFF THAT WAS HERE, I DON'T RECALL THAT THE COUNTY WAS ALL THAT CRAZY ABOUT THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT AND THEY WANTED THIS ROAD A LOT FURTHER TO THE EAST IF I RECALL, SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT REOPENING THIS MANAGEMENT IF THEY GOT AN AGREEMENT.
>> WELL, WE CAN HASH THIS OUT ALL NIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO FOSTER CROSSING, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF HASHING OUT, SO OVER THE YEARS.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP OUR WHOLE EVENING.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS BACK TO RYAN'S POINT TO THAT POINT, AS FERGUSON PARKWAY, EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO, WAS IN THE PLAN FROM THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL THAT NOT ONLY WHAT THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES, CITY WOULD PARTICIPATE IN, THAT THERE WERE SOME POTENTIAL FOR SOME GRANT FUNDS COMING FROM A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
WHAT I THINK THE BIGGEST THING TO REMEMBER IS TWO THINGS.
NUMBER 1, YOU HAVE TWO FAMILY MEMBERS THAT IF THEY CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON SOMETHING THAT'S A STICKY SITUATION TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF IT TO BEGIN WITH.
THE NUMBER 2 IS THAT YES, IT WOULD TAKE REDESIGN, REWORK AGREEMENTS WITH EVERYBODY.
THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO SEE THIS AGAIN.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU FUNDING FOR A PROJECT UNLESS YOU MOVE IT ALONG TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE THERE, BUT YES, THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED.
THERE'S BEEN FUN SPIN ON THIS.
IF IT'S GOT TO BE REWORKED AND REALIGNED, YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT COST THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE AGREEMENTS FROM OTHER PARTIES AS WELL.
I DON'T SEE 2024, 2025, BEING EVEN CLOSE TO REALITY, HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT MANY GOVERNMENTS.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN TOTEN.
YOU LIVE OVER THERE AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF NEIGHBORS THAT TAUGHT TO YOU.
WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THIS AREA THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AMENABLE SINCE THIS IS A WORKSHOP SESSION AND HE'S HERE TO REPRESENTING THE COMPANY THAT IS WILLING TO BUILD ANNA?
>> SINGLE FAMILY FOR 72 OR SINGLE FAMILY 60S, NOT A RENTAL, SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT, COMMUNITY LIKE THIS.
WE'RE GETTING OFF TOPIC BUT I KNOW IT ERODES A BIG HOT TOPIC, BUT I FEEL THIS IS A WORK SESSION, SO WE ALL NEED TO GIVE OUR OPINION ON THIS PRODUCT IN THIS LOCATION THAT I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR.
[NOISE] THE ROAD DOES PLAY A BIG IMPACT, YES, BUT THIS PRODUCT IN THIS LOCATION, DO WE WANT TO SEE IT THERE? BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE ROUTE OF THE ROAD, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF WHATEVER IS ALREADY THERE.
SINGLE FAMILY 72 EASLEY MIGHT BE A MILLION-DOLLAR HOUSE.
WHO KNOWS, IN FIVE YEARS, MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES MIGHT BECOME AN OWNER, SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GIVE FEEDBACK.
LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I LIKED THE PRODUCT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO IN 10 YEARS.
I JUST DON'T LIKE IT RIGHT HERE AND IT HAS NO PLAY ON ME LIVING THERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE THE OTHER PRODUCT SOMEWHERE ELSE DOWN HIGHWAY 5.
I SAID THE SAME THING. THAT'S MY OPINION.
I FEEL WORKSTATION, WE ALL NEED TO TELL THIS GUY, IS HE GOING TO WASTE HIS TIME TRYING TO FIX SINGLE-FAMILY RIGHT HERE?
>> LET ME MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT.
THAT MIGHT HELP EVERYONE HERE.
IF YOU DON'T REALIGN FERGUSON, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT PROJECT.
YOU KNOW WHY? THEY NEED THE DENSITY.
THAT'S THE REASON THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT, IS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE AGREEABLE TO THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT WHICH CREATES DENSITY.
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REWORK FERGUSON, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT I'M A NUMBERS GUY AND I DO UNDERSTAND FINANCING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.
THERE'S PROBABLY A BIG COMPONENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REWARDING TO SEE IF THE NUMBERS EVEN WORK FOR THIS DEVELOPER TO WANT TO DO THAT PRODUCT.
I THINK A BIG PART OF WHERE WE'RE GETTING HUNG UP HERE, IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO RELY ON THAT ROAD TO BEGIN WITH.
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR THE DEVELOPER, NOT A FEASIBLE, PROFITABLE PROJECT. MAKING THAT COMMENT.
>> WELL, IN THAT CASE, I ALSO STICK WITH THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR EVEN TOUCHING THE ROUTE.
>> WHAT'S THAT WE CAN GET HUNG UP ALL NIGHT ON WHAT IT COULD BE, WHAT IT SHOULD BE? I THINK THE QUESTION AT HAND IS WHETHER OR NOT THE PRODUCT LOOKS OKAY AND YOU'RE WILLING TO REWORK A ROADWAY.
THOSE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
>> I THINK THE CITY HAS ALREADY PAID TO GET WHAT WE HAVE.
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I'M NOT WILLING TO SPEND THE CITY'S MONEY TWICE.I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD UNLESS WE'RE GETTING COMPENSATED FOR IT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
I DON'T SEE WASTING THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. [NOISE]
>> B IS DISCUSS GOLF CART USAGE AND THE PROSPECT OF A FUTURE CITY ORDINANCE.
CHIEF, I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A WHILE.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL, DEAN HAVEN, CHIEF OF POLICE.
RECENTLY COUNCIL LISTED GOLF CART USAGE AS AN ITEM FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION AND ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO START BY TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STATE LAW, WHICH IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY OPERATE UNDER.
STATE LAW, ALLOWS FOR USAGE IN A MASTER-PLANNED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WITH A UNIFORM SET OF RESTRICTED COVENANTS IN A COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY APPROVED PLATE, AND AN HOA THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CHARGE, DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO CHARGE DUES JUST AS THE AUTHORITY DO.
ALSO ON A HIGHWAY WITH THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT OF 35 MILES PER HOUR OR LESS DURING THE DAYTIME AND NOT MORE THAN FIVE MILES FROM THE LOCATION WHERE IT IS USUALLY PART FOR TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM A GOLF COURSE.
IT CAN ALSO BE USED TO CROSS INTERSECTIONS, INCLUDING AN INTERSECTION WITH THE HIGHWAY THAT AS OPPOSED TO SPEED LIMIT OF 35 MILES PER HOUR OR MORE AND SO IT CAN'T BE OPERATED ON THAT ROADWAY, BUT IT CAN CROSS THE ROADWAY AT AN INTERSECTION.
SOME OF THE STATE REQUIRED EQUIPMENT, HEADLAMPS, TAIL LAMPS, REFLECTORS, PARKING BRAKE, AND A REAR VIEW MIRROR AND JUST SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
CITIES MAY AUTHORIZE OPERATION OF GOLF CARTS ON ROADS WITH BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY AS FOLLOWS.
GOLF CART MUST DISPLAY A COUNTY ISSUED GOLF CART LICENSE PLATE WHEN OPERATED ON ROADS AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY AND OPERATION MAY BE AUTHORIZED ONLY ON ROADS WITH A SPEED LIMIT OF 35 MILES PER HOUR OR LESS.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT ON THE STATE LAW RELATED ISSUES.
CLARK HAS ALSO HERE AS A RESOURCE FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING A PERSPECTIVE ORDINANCE.
>> I KNOW WE'VE HEARD THIS A HANDFUL OF TIMES AND IT'S COMING FROM NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS, SUMMER WITHIN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES OF THE 35 AND UNDER WHICH GOT TO BE QUITE HONEST ORDINANCE OR NO ORDINANCE.
I SEE PEOPLE ON GOLF CARTS ALL THE TIME IN A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS.
I THINK A LOT OF THE QUESTION AT HAND IS COMING SOME FROM LOCATIONS SUCH AS HIGHWAY 5 RIGHT HERE AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALONG THERE AND I KNOW I HAD ONE CONSTITUENT REACH OUT AND SAY, HEY, I LIVE [NOISE] OVER THIS, BUT I NEED TO CROSS HIGHWAY 5 TO GET THAT TO THE FOOTBALL STADIUM WHICH I UNDERSTAND.
I THINK THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS AROUND WHETHER OR NOT THEY GET PULLED OVER TRYING TO DO THAT.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE SHOULD ADOPT AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS GOLF CARTS WITH SPECIFIC USES, ITS A POPULAR ITEM.
I KNOW OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES HAD GONE IN THAT DIRECTION AND THEY LOVE IT.
I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD OF ANY ISSUES WITH IT.
WE'VE GOT A FIREFIGHTER UP HERE WHO WORKS IN A CITY WHERE I THINK THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THEM ROAMING AROUND.
I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MAKING SURE IT'S WITHIN REASON OF WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FEELS IT'S SAFE AND REASONABLE ALONG WITH WHATEVER STATE LAW.
>> I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU'RE DONE.
>> THERE IS NO WRONG WITH THAT. KEEP GOING.
>> DO YOU SEE THE RULE THAT THE WAY THE GOLF CART SETUP IS THAT PRETTY STANDARD AMONGST THE NEIGHBORING CITIES? THE HEADLIGHTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> DEPENDING ON HOW FAR YOU WANT TO GO OUT WHEN YOU CALL NEIGHBORING CITIES, IT REALLY RUNS THE GAMUT LIKE MCKINNEY SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZES AND BY NAME CERTAIN SUBDIVISIONS AND PLAN COMMUNITIES.
MOST PASS THE ORDINANCE AS A BLANKET FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
>> THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A MAN TO DO THE SAME.
>> ONE THING I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO SEE, SO IT'S EASIER FOR YOU GUYS AN AGE LIMIT, YOU GOT TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE, OF COURSE.
BUT SOME IDENTIFICATION, MAYBE NOT A LICENSE PLATE, BUT IT'S A STICKER THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET AT THE CITY EVERY YEAR, 50 BUCKS A YEAR.
THEY HAD TO DISPLAY IT, CHANGE THE GEAR.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE LICENSE PLATES WITH A LITTLE STICKER EVERY
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YEAR AND THAT WAY IT'S EASIER FOR THE POLICE TO POLICE IT.THEY HAD A STICKER, SO IT'S LEGAL THEY KEEP THAT THING.
>> STEEN DOES SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR.
>> BUT I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A ONE-TIME THING.
>> SURE. WE CAN WORK WITH CLARK TO DETERMINE TIMEFRAME PRICING AND WHO WOULD BE THE ISSUING BY EITHER IN THE CITY.
>> I'VE SEEN THIS COMING BECAUSE I HAVE A SECOND POOL BEING BUILT IN THE NEW PHASES.
YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD GETTING QUITE LARGE.
THERE'S GOING TO PROBABLY MOVE ME GO GOLD PARKS.
THE ANACAPRI, WHAT'S ALL THAT'S BUILT? WE MIGHT SEE MORE GOLF CARTS.
I THINK EVEN ON THE MAP OF THE LAGOON, THERE WAS A GOLF CART PARKING.
I WOULD WANT THE ONES THAT BROUGHT THIS UP TO THE CITY MANAGER JUST TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME FOR ONCE. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.
>> CAN YOU BACK UP A SLIDE FOR A SECOND, PLEASE? ALL WE'RE DOING IS JUST MATCHING WHAT THE STATE LAW HAS ALREADY.
>> IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH CLARK, YOU CAN TIGHTEN THE RULES.
YOU CAN MAKE THE RULES A LITTLE MORE LIBERAL.
THERE'S A LOT OF LEEWAY WITH THIS PARTICULAR STATUTE.
WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PREFERENCE OF COUNSEL AND THE NEIGHBORS WOULD BE.
>> I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAX ANYBODY BY PUTTING ADDITIONAL PERMITTING FEES ON IT OR ANYTHING.
ANOTHER THING TO KEEP UP WITH IF YOU'RE CHARGING $50.
>> DO WE GET THEM INSPECTED, [OVERLAPPING].
THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WANT TO TAX PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING [OVERLAPPING] WE GOT TO KEEP TRACK OF IT.
JUST ONE MORE THING TO DEAL WITH.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PART, BUT THAT'S FINE.
>> CHIEF, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXAMPLE THE MAYOR SET CROSSING HIGHWAY 5 OR 455.
SO MANY OF US HAVE FOUND OURSELVES CROSSING IT AND THEY SHOULD KNOW WE'RE HAVING TO GUN IT BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S COMING AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED AND THERE IS NO GUNNING [LAUGHTER] ON ONE OF THESE LOW SPEED VEHICLES.
FROM A SAFETY ISSUE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AS FAR AS THE STICKER AND THE REGISTRATION FEE, TAX, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THE DATA WOULD BE USEFUL TO KNOW WHERE THESE CARTS ARE.
PART OF IT IS FROM THE POLICE STANDPOINT.
IF ONE OF THESE GETS PULLED OVER, THEY HAVE TO KNOW HOW MANY MILES FROM THE LOCATION OF ORIGIN.
THAT'D BE PART OF THEIR POLICING.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POLICE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IN GENERAL.
YOU GOT AN OFFICER THAT SEES SOMEBODY ON A GOLF CART, UNDER AGE, MAYBE NOT LICENSED.
WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT'S STANDPOINT?
>> THAT WOULD BE LIKE ANY OTHER TRAFFIC INFRACTION.
YOU WOULD INITIATE A TRAFFIC STOP, YOU WOULD DETERMINE IF THEY'RE LICENSED, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE REASONABLE SUSPICION AT LEAST TO MAKE THAT STOP.
IF SOMEBODY'S CLEARLY UNDER AGE, IF YOU'VE GOT A 12 YEAR OLD, THAT IS DRIVING IT, YOU CAN MAKE THAT STOP.
AT THAT POINT, IF IT'S A JUVENILE, YOU'D CONTACT THE PARENTS, RELEASE THEM TO THE PARENTS, AND YOU HAVE GOT THE OPTION OF ISSUING A CITATION.
>> DO WE HAVE TO HAVE ANYTHING TO IMPOUND THE GOLF CART?
>> THAT WOULDN'T BE OUR PREFERENCE.
WE'LL PROBABLY TRY TO RELEASE IT TO A LICENSED DRIVER.
>> OKAY. THESE THINGS DO RUN OUT OF BATTERY POWER AND THAT SORT OF STUFF AND THEY PRETTY MUCH STOP RIGHT WHERE THEY DIE.
IS THAT ANY CONCERN AS FAR AS ANY OF THESE BEING AROUND THE CITY AND NOT BEING ABLE TO GET HOME?
>> I HADN'T REALLY FACTORED THAT PART IN.
WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS CROSSING SOME OF THE MAJOR ROADWAYS.
WHEN WE REALLY STARTED THE DISCUSSION, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT AS OFTEN AS WE WERE CONCERNED.
I THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STAY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, USE IT TO GET THE NEIGHBORS HOMES.
BUT AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY THAT THEIR NEIGHBOR IS ACROSS 455.
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>> WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO CROSS 455 OR HIGHWAY 5, AND THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH RESTRAINED TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT GETTING TOO ADVENTUROUS.
>> THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PARAMETERS THAT WE CAN PUT ON.
>> SURE. AS FAR AS THE REGISTRATION STICKER, I DON'T WANT TO DO YOUR JOB, WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL AT ALL? IS THERE ANY VALUE TO THAT OR IS IT JUST GOING TO CREATE SOME TDM AND NOT REALLY ASSIST THE OFFICERS?
>> I COULD SEE VALUE IN REGISTERING THEM LOCALLY AND KNOWING FROM A STATISTICAL STANDPOINT HOW MANY WE HAVE.
IF YOU DO RUN ACROSS ONE AND IT'S GOT AN ISSUED NUMBER, YOU COULD CONTACT THAT OWNER, FIND OUT IF THEY KNOW THEIR GOLF CART IS MISSING, IF IT WAS A THEFT ISSUE OR IF LIKE YOU SAID, IT RAN OUT OF BATTERY POWER.
BUT AS FAR AS THE COST RECOVERY, THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL.
WE WOULDN'T REALLY HAVE [INAUDIBLE] EITHER WAY.
>> AS FAR AS GETTING ACROSS THE HIGHWAY IS GOING TO BE NEEDED, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS ON ONE SIDE AND LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE, I WOULDN'T MIND RESTRICTING IT TO THE STOPLIGHTS.
AT LEAST THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY UNDER CONTROL AND WOULD NOT IMPACT THESE GOLF CARTS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE VERY EASY TO SEE.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT SMALL.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL IS THAT WE AT LEAST LIMIT IT TO THE STOPLIGHTS SO THEY CAN GET ACROSS SAFELY. THANK YOU, CHIEF.
>> DO WE HAVE THIS GOING ON RIGHT NOW? DO WE HAVE GOLF CARTS IN THE AREA?
>> WE DO. I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT.
>> IS IT AN ISSUE WITH YOUR GUYS HAVING TO PULL PEOPLE OVER?
>> WE GET THE OCCASIONAL CALL.
ITS USUALLY INVOLVING A JUVENILE, SOMEONE THAT'S KNOWN TO BE UNDER AGE, THAT'S RIDING AROUND MAYBE IN AN UNSAFE MANNER, AND A NEIGHBOR CALLS IN AND EXPRESSES CONCERN.
>> YOU JUST FOLLOW THEM HOME IN A GOLF CART OR WHATEVER AND THEN TURN IT BACK IN TO THEM?
>> WE'LL USUALLY CONTACT THE PARENTS TO COME TO THE LOCATION.
>> COME PICK IT UP. I'D BE ON BOARD FOR AN ORDINANCE.
WE HAVEN'T [INAUDIBLE] SAYING AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES AND I DON'T KNOW.
I WOULD BE COMPLETELY AGAINST CHARGING PEOPLE FOR IT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON FOR THAT AT ALL.
I'LL JUST SAY TOO, WE ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT SOME OF THIS GETTING ACROSS BIG ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU WORRIED ABOUT IT, BUT THE REASON WE HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENTS IS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT YOUR ORDINANCE AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO ACROSS IT ANYWAYS.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT RESTRICTING THESE THINGS, BUT YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY GOING ACROSS HIGHWAY 5 AND NOT CARING IF YOU PULL THEM OVER AND GIVE THEM A CITATION.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING IN THE WEEDS ON THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> WHEN WE DO PASS THE ORDINANCE, WE CAN DO A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
>> THE WEBSITE. WE CAN HAVE A PAGE THAT DIRECTS PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ORDINANCE ENTAILS.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET ON THESE THINGS HERE AND CROSS BIG ROADS, NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE.
>> OR WHENEVER YOU PICK UP YOUR REGISTRATION.
>> WHEN YOU PICK UP YOUR REGISTRATION, YEAH.
>> WHEN YOU PICK UP YOUR LITTLE STICKER, YOU'LL GET A LIST OF THE ORDINANCES AND THE RULES OF WHERE TO CROSS, WHERE NOT TO CROSS, WHAT NOT TO DO, YOUR AGE AND STUFF.
THE WHOLE STICKER THING AND REGISTRATION ISN'T JUST TO GET 50 BUCKS.
IT'S ALSO TO HELP THE HEALTH EDUCATE.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS AN ORDINANCE AND AN EDUCATION STILL DOESN'T STOP.
I PAY REGISTRATION ON MY TRUCK, I DO 85 DOWN 75 EVERYDAY.
>> MY ONLY COMMENT TO THE REGISTRATION COMPONENT IS IF YOU GO OUT AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION, WHICH NO ONE IS, TO A CITY ORDINANCE.
YOU GO SPEND $6,500 ON A GOLF CART, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR ORDINANCES ARE, I'M GOING TO GET ON MY GOLF CART, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DOING IN THE CITY, IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
ALL THIS IS IS JUST WHEN THE CONSTITUENT CALLS YOU NOW TO GO, CAN I GET ON A GOLF CART IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD? THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT ANYWAYS.
I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THOUGHT WE HAD AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE ALREADY MONITORING THIS BECAUSE I SEE THEM EVERYDAY.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BUYING THREE CAR GARAGES IN ANNA, TEXAS.
IT'S NOT PARK A THIRD CAR, IT'S PARK THE GOLF CARTS.
>> OFTEN THEY ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAW AS LONG.
AS THEY'RE FOLLOWING THOSE GUIDELINES THAT WE LISTED EARLIER, THEY'RE OPERATING LEGALLY.
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>> I SAY WE GET ONE CREATED AND GET IT IMPROVED, THAT WAY YOU CAN TELL EVERYBODY IT'S LEGAL IN THE CITY.
>> I HAVE A LITTLE BIT ON THIS CHIEF, TOO.
WHAT'S THE MEANING OF GOLF CARTS, GUYS IN COUNCIL? THEY'RE USED AT A GOLF COURSE AREA.
I CAN SEE THIS AT HURRICANE CREEK AREA IN THE COUNTRY CLUB.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE MAJOR GOLF COURSE IN ANNA RIGHT NOW, BUT PEOPLE USE THEM FOR RECREATIONAL DRIVING.
ALSO, I'VE SEEN OUR PD PULLOVER PEOPLE WITH ATVS, THE DUNE BUGGY TYPES AND LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF DEAL HERE.
PEOPLE JUST USE THEM FOR LUXURY DRIVING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT WE HAVE MAJOR HIGHWAYS OF 75, 5 OR 455 TOO TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT IT'S A BIGGER ORDINANCE THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.
>> I RUN ON CAR PATROL EVERY TIME ON 75, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY GETTING RUN OVER ON IT.
>> BUT IF SOMEBODY GOES ACROSS THE WEST CROSSING FROM OAK HOLLOW OR FROM THE FALLS OR ANYBODY LIKE THAT OR SOMEBODY WANTS GO TO WALMART ON THE GOLF CART, THEY GET ALL 455.
IT'S LIMITED TO 35 MILES AN HOUR, BUT IT'S JUST HARD TO LOOK AT.
PEOPLE SHOULD JUST STAY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THEM AND NOT GO ON THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS AND ROADWAYS.
BUT IT'S JUST A ALTERNATIVE DRIVE EXCEPT UNLESS YOU'RE ON A GOLF COURSE OR A FEW BLOCKS FROM A GOLF COURSE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OTHER VEHICLES YOU DESCRIBED AND THE GOLF CARTS.
THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS RULES THAT THE GOLF CARTS CAN DRIVE THROUGH OUR CITIES AND ON OUR STREETS.
NOT ON THE HIGHWAYS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED.
BUT THOSE OTHER VEHICLES ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO BE ON OUR ROADS.
>> WHY DON'T I MAKE SUGGESTIONS SO WE'RE NOT HERE ON THIS ALL NIGHT.
DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE CHIEF AND CLERK PROPOSE A CITY ORDINANCE TO BRING FORWARD FOR US TO REVIEW?
>> DIDN'T HAVE OPTIONS ON A AND B ARE INCLUDING THE REGISTRATION.
>> MAKE ONE MORE STRICT. MAKE ONE LESS.
>> SURE. WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS THROUGH RYAN.
>> WHAT I WANT TO SAY TOO, IS WHEN WE PROPOSE AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS, IF YOU GET THE DRAFT RIGHT AND WE WERE DISCUSSING ON THE DAY, ISN'T SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH AN AMENDMENT SUBJECT TO FORM, CAN DO THAT, TOO. [OVERLAPPING].
>> GOVERNING BODY THAT CREATES ORDINANCE.
>> WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THERE'S A CONSENSUS ON HAVING AN ORDINANCE AT A FUTURE AGENDA.
>> THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO [LAUGHTER].
>> I DON'T HEAR A CONSENSUS ON THE REGISTRATION, SO WE WILL DRAFT AN ORDINANCE.
BUT IF YOU ALL DECIDE OR IF THERE'S A MAJORITY THAT DECIDES THEY WANT TO REGISTRATION, YOU CAN IMPROVE IT SUBJECT TO THAT BEING AMENDED AND PART OF IT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT ITEMS THIS EVENING.
[6. Consent Items]
THESE CONSIST OF NON-CONTROVERSIAL OR HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW, COUNSELING, AND CONSUMER ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PULLED.IF NOT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION FOR CONSENT.
>> MOVE WE APPROVE ITEMS 6A THROUGH 10.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL IN FACT?
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION
[7. Items For Individual Consideration]
SEVEN DAYS CONSIDER DISCUSSION EXCELLENT ON RESOLUTION.APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH BIG INVESTMENTS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF WOODLAND ESTATES AND MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTS DEVELOPMENT SUBJECT TO APPROVAL AS TO LEGAL FORM, SAID DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY THE CITIES AND LEGAL COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE]
>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE ITEM BEFORE THIS EVENING IS FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS HERE OUTLINED IN BLUE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW LOCATED IN THE ETJ.
AS PART OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, THEIR REQUESTS TO ENTER AND ITS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO ESTABLISH LAND USE ENTITLEMENTS RESTRICTIONS AS PARTISAN ANNEXATION REQUEST.
LAND USE ENTITLEMENTS WILL ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF TWO FAMILY DWELLING UNITS CONSISTING OF ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
THIS WOULD BE IN DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR MF-1 ZONING REGULATIONS, WITH SOME MODEST, SLIGHTLY MODIFIED STANDARDS THAT WE'VE POTENTIALLY SEEN IN THE PAST AS IT RELATES TO PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT WILL CONSIST OF 180 UNITS,
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ROUGHLY 12 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY WITH THIS THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE AGREEMENT.IF THIS IS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL BE ANNEXING WITHIN A 60 DAY TIMEFRAME.
THE SURROUNDING AREA HERE, AGAIN, LAND AREA TO THE WEST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED IN THE CITY.
THERE WERE SOME PASSIVE ZONING REQUEST, WHEREAS SF72 WAS APPROVED.
JUST THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE JUST GOOD FOR CONTEXT.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALLOWS THE PROPERTY OWNER, AGAIN, TO ESTABLISH LAND USE ENTITLEMENTS AND RESTRICTIONS AS PART OF AN ANNEXATION REQUEST.
IT ALSO INCLUDES BUILDING MATERIALS STANDARDS, AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT DEADLINES THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT THAT THEY'VE AGREED TO MEET.
APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ANNEX WITHIN 60 DAYS.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> HI ROSS, WAS THIS THE ITEM THAT FAILED AND PNZ?
>> CORRECT. THAT WAS PART OF AN ACTUAL ANNEXATION REQUEST TO ESTABLISH AS ANNEXATION AND TO ESTABLISH THE ZONING.
THAT DID FAIL WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES IN WHICH THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHERE WE DO ALLOW AND WE'VE DONE THIS.
THIS IS A SIMILAR PROCESS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CRYSTAL PARK, AS WELL AS THE VILLAGES OF HURRICANE CREEK, WHERE WE ESTABLISH THE ZONING OR ENTITLEMENTS AS PART OF A PRE-ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.
>> CAN YOU PULL UP THE MAP AGAIN?
>> IF YOU CAN LET THEM KNOW WHICH JUST HEAD OF THING.
ON THIS MAP, IF YOU LOOK ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, YOU CAN SEE FUTURE ROSEMONT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED OVER IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS JUST OFF THE PICTURE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PAGE.
>> WELL, I THINK I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS HERE.
THE DEVELOPER IS EITHER GOING TO BUILD THE UNITS IN THE ETJ OR THE DEVELOPERS GOING TO BUILD THEM INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS? THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN A REAL BIG ON DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS AND QUALITY STANDARDS.
THIS IS A DEVELOPER WHO IS WILLING TO ANNEX IN YOUR CITY AND PAY YOUR PROPERTY TAXES ALONG WITH CONFORM TO THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WHICH ARE MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE THAN WHAT THE ETJS WOULD BE.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? IF NOT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.
>> I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE PLANNING AND ZONE GIVE ANY REASON WHY THEY TURNED TO THIS DAY.
>> THE PROPOSED REQUESTS WAS NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
THAT IS THE CHARGE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS FOLLOW THE ANNA 2050 FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
AGAIN, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOCATED IN OUR ETJ SINCE THERE ARE NO UTILITIES AND THESE LOCATIONS, THEY'RE ALL IDENTIFIED AS RANCHING AND AGRICULTURAL.
IT ALLOWS FOR A MEDIUM DENSITY AS LONG AS YOU ARE PRESERVING 50% OF THE LAND AREA.
WHEN THIS PROJECT CAME FORWARD.
THESE AREN'T ON INDIVIDUALLY PLOTTED LOTS, HOWEVER, THEY ARE MEETING, I BELIEVE IT'S 15% OPEN SPACE.
THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE BECAUSE THERE'S FLOODPLAIN, BUT THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING A CLUBHOUSE, A POOL AREA, AS WELL AS SIGNIFICANT EFFORTS AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ALL REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH NF1 WHEN IT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
AGAIN, THEY'RE MEETING THE THE STIPULATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO PROTECT ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS IT WAS NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLANNING.
THAT'S WHY THEIR RATIONALE WAS TO DENY.
>> YES, MOTION PASSES ITEM B CONSIDERED DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE IMPACT FEE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT FOR SANITARY SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE BY IN BETWEEN THE CITY OF ANNA, ASHTON WOODS AND LACKLAND HOLDINGS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS ITEM IS REGARDING A PROPOSED REGIONAL SANITARY SEWER LIFT STATION THAT WOULD BE LOCATED IN.
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>> THANK YOU, SIR. THEY WILL BE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF STATE HIGHWAY 5.
YOU HAVE THE EXISTING COUNTY MEADOWS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW.
THEN THE LACKLAND HOLDINGS PROJECT, WHICH IS SHOWN IN PURPLE THERE.
BOTH OF THOSE DEVELOPERS OF THOSE PROJECTS CAME TO THE CITY AND WANTED TO PARTNER TO CREATE A SEWER SOLUTION.
IN OUR EXISTING WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, WE HAVE PLANS TO HAVE A REGIONAL SANITARY SEWER LIFTS STATION IN THIS AREA TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SEWER SERVICE FOR THIS AREA AS IT GROWS.
THERE WERE TWO AREAS IDENTIFIED.
YOU CAN SEE SHOWN OPTION 1 AND OPTION 2.
OPTION 2 IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE EXISTING SEWER LIFT STATION IN SWEETWATER CROSSING.
WHAT THIS WILL DO IS ACTUALLY THIS AGREEMENT THE DEVELOPERS ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BUILDING OPTION 1, WHICH IS UP, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LACKLAND TRACK.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE EXISTING SEWER LIFT STATION IN OUR SWEETWATER CROSSING NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE ABANDONED, IT WOULD GO AWAY.
THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE THERE.
MORE THAN LIKELY, WE WOULD UTILIZE THAT SPACE THROUGH THERE TO CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK AND OR TRAIL SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO RUN ALONG ROSENBAUM PARKWAY IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD TAKE YOU TO THE SCHOOL.
IT COULD POTENTIALLY GO FROM BEING A SEWER LIFT STATION TO BEING A CONNECTION POINT FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, WHICH WE FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING.
IN THE AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS A REGIONAL THING AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THE AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE SEWERED BY THIS.
I WOULD ADD THAT THIS IS SUBJECT TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AS POTENTIAL PROJECTS COME IN, PROPERTY IS SOLD, DEVELOPERS COME IN.
WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
BUT WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU HOW THIS PROJECT WOULD OPEN UP POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AROUND THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHERE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE'S DEVELOPER INTERESTS BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXISTING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE.
IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD PLACE TO HAVE A HOME IS NEAR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WE KNOW IT'S COMING AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
WHAT THE AGREEMENT STATES IS THAT WE WOULD REIMBURSE THE SEWER IMPACT FEES THAT WE WOULD COLLECT FROM THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS.
THE TWO DEVELOPERS WOULD WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT LIFT STATION NOT TREATMENT.
THE CITY WOULD ALSO PROVIDE ABOUT JUST OVER $1 MILLION IN FUNDS TOWARDS THE PROJECT.
NOW, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CITY FUNDS.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE A STRONG FUND BALANCE IN OUR SANITARY SEWER IMPACT FEE FUND CURRENTLY.
STAFF FEELS STRONGLY LIKE THIS IS A GOOD USE OF THOSE FUNDS.
SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE BUILDING A PROJECT THAT IS NOT ONLY GOING TO SERVE THESE TWO DEVELOPMENTS, BUT OPENS US UP TO BE ABLE TO SERVE A LARGER AREA IN THE REGION.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOTAL ACREAGE, IT'S 700 ACRES THAT WOULD BE SERVED POTENTIALLY BY THIS TREATMENT PLANT AND ALLOWS US TO KEEP DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD IN THIS AREA WHERE CURRENTLY NO SANITARY SEWER OPTIONS EXIST.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> I GOT ONE. WHICH SITE DOES THE CITY PREFER?
>> WE ACTUALLY PREFER OPTION 1, BECAUSE WITH OPTION 2 IT WOULD BE LOCATED IMMEDIATELY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT EXISTING LIFT STATION IN SWEETWATER CROSSING.
IT WOULD BE A REAL CHALLENGE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THROUGH THERE.
BUT BY MOVING IT UP INTO THE LACKLAND SITE, THAT CLEARS THE WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONNECTION THERE THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS PEOPLE THAT ARE IN SWEETWATER CROSSING TO GET DOWN TO WALK DOWN TO ROSENBAUM PARKWAY, WHICH THEN WOULD ALLOW THEM PEDESTRIAN ACCESS OVER TOWARDS THE SCHOOL AND A MUCH EASIER WAY BECAUSE AS TO THE EAST SIDE OF SWEETWATER CROSSING, THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD.
THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS OR ANYTHING THERE BECAUSE IT'S 425, SO WE PREFER OPTION 1.
WITH THAT, THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY LANDSCAPING AND FENCING AND SECURITY AROUND IT AND INCORPORATE IT INTO THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT.
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>> MOVE BY [INAUDIBLE] SECOND BY COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE] ALL IN FAVOR.
ITEM C IS CONSIDERED DISCUSS SECTION ON ADOPTING RESOLUTION, DETERMINING AN AREA OF THE CITY THAT CONTAINS CONDITIONS WHICH ARE DETRIMENTAL TO THE COMMUNITY AND CONSTITUTES A SLUM IN BLIGHTED AREA SCARDANA.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, KIMBERLY GARDUNO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
TONIGHT, WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL A SERIES OF RESOLUTIONS RELATED TO THE PROJECT SCOPE AND FUNDING RELATED TO THE CITIES APPLICATION FOR TWO MAJOR GRANTS THAT WE'RE APPLYING TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.
THE FIRST GRANT IS THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAM AND THE SECOND GRANT IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND.
RELATED TO THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAM.
WE NEED TO PASS A RESOLUTION RELATED TO SLUM AND BLIGHT.
TODAY I HAVE MISS LISETTE HOWARD.
SHE IS THE PROJECT MANAGER WITH PMI AND SHE IS THE ONE ASSISTING CITY STAFF WITH OUR GREEN APPLICATION.
>> LISETTE HOWARD. THANKS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE PURPOSE OF THE SLUM AND BLIGHT RESOLUTION.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY REQUIRED BY HUD AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT.
IT'S NOT CALLING THE WHOLE AREA SLUM AND BLIGHT.
THERE'S BASICALLY JUST SOME CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE'RE CALLING ON, SUCH AS SOME AGE BUILDINGS, MAYBE LACK OF SIDEWALKS.
NON-COMPLIANT, ADA ACCESS AND AGE LIGHTING.
WE JUST WOULD PROPOSE THAT THE AREA AND THE BLUE RECTANGLE WOULD BE IDENTIFIED AS THE SLUM AND BLIGHT AREA IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT.
>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
>> YOU MUST GET THAT A LOT. [LAUGHTER]
>> WELL, PEOPLE ARE LIKE NO VARSITY IS NOT SELLING OR BUYING.
IT IS NOT YOU'LL HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL CITY AND SO IT'S PART OF THE APPLICATION.
WE TRIED TO FIND THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE WANT TO HELP THE CITY FIXED.
WE PUT THAT INTO THE RESOLUTION.
THE NEXT FEW READINGS ARE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE APPLICATION, SO IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE APPLICATIONS WE CAN ANSWER THEM.
>> IN THAT CASE, MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 7C MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LEE, SECOND.
[OVERLAPPING] SECOND BY [INAUDIBLE]. ALL IN FAVOR.
>> YES, MOTION PASSES ITEM D IS THE FIRST READING OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF DIANA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PROVIDED FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAM, FOR VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. RELATED TO THIS GRANT, IF WE ARE APPROVED FOR $500,000, AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE A MATCHING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF 75,000 AT THE APRIL MEETING OF THE CDC THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION DID APPROVE PROVIDING THE $75,000 MATCH.
THIS REQUIRES TWO READINGS, FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS.
IF THE MAYOR CAN READ THE BOLD CAPTION IN THIS SUMMARY.
>> ON THIS FIRST READING IS A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ANNA, TEXAS APPROVING.
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[NOISE] [BACKGROUND] THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PROVIDED FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAM FUND FOR VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS.
>> WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM E, WHICH IS THE SECOND READING OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO PROVIDE FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAM FOR VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS.
THE SECOND READING IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO PROVIDE FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAM FUNDS FOR VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS.
ITEM F IS CONSIDERED DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PROVIDE MATCHING FUNDS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
THIS IS LIKE THE THIRD TIME I'M READING THIS, [LAUGHTER] DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAM FOR VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS.
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM F. MOTION ON ITEM F.
>> MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARVER.
ITEM G, THE FIRST READING OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PROVIDED FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO PROVIDE FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS. [LAUGHTER]
>> WE MOVE ON TO ITEM H, FOLKS. [LAUGHTER]
>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING.
>> SECOND VERSE, SAME AS THE FIRST.
>> SECOND READING OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO PROVIDE THE MATCHING FUNDS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK PROGRAM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
COUNCIL, HERE'S THE SECOND READING, A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO PROVIDE FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM I, WHICH IS CONSIDERED DISCUSS ACTION ON RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROJECT OF THE ANNA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO PROVIDE FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR A TEXAS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
IT'S A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
[LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] I DID GOOD THOUGH.
>> I'LL MOVE WE APPROVE. DO YOU NEED A BREAK?
>> MAYOR PRO TEM, WITH THE MOTION COUNCILMAN CAIN WITH THE SECOND ALL IN FAVOR?
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM J, WHICH IS CONSIDERED DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A QUOTE FROM MOSCOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SPORTS LIGHTING ON THE PRACTICE FIELDS AT SLAYTER CREEK PARK..
I HAVE A FEELING WE WON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE HERE.
>> MAYOR I'VE GOT SOME I NEED YOU TO READ IF YOU COULD JUST PULL IT UP.
>> MAYOR COUNCIL, MY NAME IS DON WALKER.
I'M THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
THIS ITEM IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF A QUOTE THAT WAS RECEIVED FROM MOSCOW OF THE BY BOARD COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE A MEMBER OF AND MOSCOW IS THE COMPANY THAT DID THE LIGHTS AT JOHNSON PARK.
THAT PROJECT WAS 325,000 AND THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE OVER DOUBLE THAT, BUT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OVER DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THAT COVERAGE.
AND I'VE GOT A SLIDE AND THIS IS GOING TO BE AT SLAYTER CREEK PARK.
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THERE WE GO. THOSE TWO GREEN RECTANGLES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN.THOSE ARE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF EXISTING BASEBALL FOURPLEX AND THOSE ARE THE TWO PRACTICE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE TRYING TO TIME THIS PRETTY CLOSE WHERE THE PARKING LOT EXPANSION RIGHT OFF OF ROSEMONT NORTH OF THE EXISTING PARKING AREA THAT'S USED FOR PRACTICE A LOT AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO LIGHT THESE FIELDS SO THAT WHEN THAT GOES AWAY, WHEN THE PARKING LOT EXPANSION HAPPENS, THEY'VE GOT A PLACE TO GO THAT IS LIGHTED.
AND THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY BIDDING RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE A PRE-BID MEETING TOMORROW.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER, AND THIS IS FUNDED BY BOND, BOND FUNDS PART BOND.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.
>> WHAT'S THE TIMING ON IT? HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO GET THEM READY TO GO?
>> THERE IS QUITE A LEAD TIME ON BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN MANUFACTURER THE POLES AND FIXTURES AND ALL THAT UNTIL THE ORDER IS PLACED.
WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING THROUGH FOUR MONTHS.
>> INTO THE SUMMER PROBABLY SOMEWHERE?
>> I'VE COACHED A LOT OF FOOTBALL PRACTICES OUT THERE AND SOCCER, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE TOOTH THAT'S GOING ON.
IS THAT RIGHT? WE'D HAVE THEM READY BY THE START OF THOSE TWO SEASONS, I GUESS.
>> THAT'S THE GOAL. WE HAVE STARTED.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? NOW I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 7J.
>> COUNCILMAN TAB MOVE THE MOTION. I'LL MAKE A SECOND.
>> AYE. I AM WAITING FOR THE YES TOO SO SORRY.
COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ITEM K.
>> ITEM K, CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR PRO TEM TO EXECUTE THE ANNA PRE-PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 1 REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT, AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO. JOEY.
>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S DONE FOR WESS AND LINDSAY PLACE THE LAST MEETING.
THIS IS APPROVING THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT FOR IMPROVING AREA 1 FOR THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT THERE FOR ANACAPRI MEGATEL.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> IN THAT CASE, I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 7K.
>> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAB AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARVER.
>> I'M TRYING TO DO MY LITTLE YES THING OVER HERE.
ITEM A CLOSE SESSION UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.
[8. Closed Session]
THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ANY ITEMS LISTED OR REFERENCED ON THIS AGENDA UNDER THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS, A CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION AND/OR ON MANNERS IN WHICH A DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH CHAPTER 551 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.CODE 551.071 BE DISCUSSED OR DELIBERATE, THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY.
GOVERNMENT CODE 551.072, DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT.
THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE CITY OF ANNA WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO THE BUSINESS PROSPECT DESCRIBED IN SUBDIVISION 1 GOVERNMENT CODE 551.087 TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE PERSONNEL MATTERS, 551.074, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
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DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ENTER IN THE CLOSED?>> MAKE A MOTION IN THE CLOSE SESSION.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARVER AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CAIN.
>> YES. MOTION PASSES, WE ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION AS 740.
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* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.