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[1. Call to Order, Roll Call, and Establishment of Quorum. ]
THE CITY OF ANNA WILL MEET ON MARCH 14TH, 2023 AT 06:00 P.M. AND PHANTOM UNITS WILL COMPLEX CHAMBERS LOCATED THE 120 WEST SEVENTH STREET TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ONCE AGAIN, WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN OPEN SESSION AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT THE OPINION SPEAKER REGISTRATION FORM AND TURN IT INTO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE WE GET STARTED THIS EVENING.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS CALLING ROLL.
ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS EXCEPT COUNCILMAN CARVER, WHICH I DID HERE.
HE IS ON HIS WAY, SO HE SHOULD BE HERE, BUT HE IS NOT PRESENT AT THE START OF THE MEETING.
ALL OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
THIS TIME, I'LL GIVE YOU AN INDICATION AND FOLLOW WITH PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
HEAVENLY FATHER GOD, I JUST COME TO YOU TODAY AND JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMUNITY GOD.
WE'RE JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY, LORD.
I JUST PRAY THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THIS EVENING AND IN OUR DAYS AHEAD, GOD THAT WE WILL RELY ON YOU WITH YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE AND THE DECISIONS WE MAKE.
LORD, I JUST PRAY THAT MORE OF YOUR PRESENCE WILL BE SHOWN IN [INAUDIBLE] IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN.
>> TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NEIGHBORS' COMMENTS AT THIS TIME,
[3. Neighbor Comments. ]
ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM ON THIS MEETING AGENDA THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE QUITE A LARGE CROWD THAT IS WANTING TO SPEAK REGARDING ITEM 7A THIS EVENING.
I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER OPINION FORM FROM MS. JENNIFER RICHARDSON.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID WANT TO SAY THIS EVENING IF THE GROUP FROM URBAN CROSSING NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE QUITE A FEW ARE HERE FOR THAT REASON.
I DID OFFER THAT IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, I WOULD ALLOW MORE TIME DURING THE NEIGHBORS' COMMENTS IF WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEN IN TURN, I KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE AND WHAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING.
I WOULD ASK THAT THAT PERSON BE GIVEN THEIR 15 MINUTES AND THEN THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS' COMMENTS.
WE EXCUSE FOR THE EVENING, OR WE CAN DO EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON BUT ONLY ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.
I DO ONLY HAVE ONE SPEAKER FORM RIGHT NOW, AND IT IS JENNIFER RICHARDSON AND BLAKE BRANSON.
IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND JENNIFER, I WILL, OF COURSE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE GOING TO SET THE CLOCK SINCE I ONLY HAVE ONE FORUM THIS EVENING.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND SET IT FOR 17 MINUTES.
LET'S GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT EXTRA.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IS ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT NEIGHBOR'S COMMENTS AND WE GO TO ITEM 7A, THAT'S A BUSINESS MEETING BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ITEM AT THAT TIME.
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY BLURTING OUT OR RAISING HANDS OR TRYING TO INTERRUPT THE PRESENTATION.
ONCE WE GET TO ITEM 7A. MS. RICHARDSON?
>> JENNIFER RICHARDSON. I LIVE AT 3227 CROSSING DRIVE HERE, IN ANNA.
IF YOU'RE HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, CAN YOU PLEASE STAND UP? YOU GUYS WERE HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ATMOS HAS NOT BEEN TRUTHFUL TO THIS COUNCIL.
I KNOW THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU APPROVED A METERING STATION AND BACK IN NOVEMBER, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU APPROVED.
THE P AND Z AFTER ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS, THEY FIGURED IT OUT THAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS WAS AND THAT'S WHY THEY DENIED IT.
THAT THE LAST MEETING YOU ASKED FOR PROOF, SO I'M READY TO GIVE YOU PROOF.
I PROVIDED A PACKET FOR EACH ONE OF YOU.
LAST MEETING, I TOSS THAT BIG STACK OF ALMOST 800 PAGES.
THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WERE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT BEFORE YOU VOTED ON THIS TOPIC.
YOU'VE HAD ALMOST 500 PAGES FOR TONIGHT.
I THINK YOU GUYS GOT THE POINT.
WHAT I DECIDED TO DO INSTEAD IS TO PROVIDE YOU A PRINTOUT OF WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU BY ATMOS REGARDING THIS ISSUE TONIGHT, JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO PRINT IT OUT YOURSELF.
WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO IS TURN TO THE PINK TAB FIRST.
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HERE'S WHAT ATMOS PROVIDED YOU.THEY PROVIDED THIS TO THE P AND Z.
THEY PROVIDED THIS TO YOU IN NOVEMBER AND THEY PROVIDED IT TO YOU FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.
YOU GUYS WANTED PROOF THAT THIS WAS NOT JUST A METERING STATION.
HERE'S YOUR PROOF. I WANT YOU TO SEE RIGHT HERE IT SAYS ODORIZER CONTAINER.
THAT'S A CONTAINER THAT CONTAINS OR HOLDS CHEMICALS.
ATMOS AFTER THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN THREE DIFFERENT CHANCES BY THE P AND Z TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHAT CHEMICALS ARE GOING TO BE IN THAT CONTAINER, THEY STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
THIS IS WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU.
THIS SHOWS THAT THEY'RE INJECTING CHEMICALS INTO A LINE.
NOW, A METERING STATION ONLY MEASURES THE FLOW OF GAS.
IT DOES NOT HAVE A CONTAINER THAT HOLDS CHEMICALS ON SITE.
THEM CALLING THIS A METERING STATION IS ABSOLUTELY DISINGENUOUS.
THEY WERE HOPING NOBODY WOULD NOTICE.
NOT ONLY DOES IT HOLD CHEMICALS, IT HOLDS A LOT OF CHEMICALS.
AGAIN, THIS IS THEIR SLIDE THEY PROVIDED TO YOU THAT THEY'RE FEELING THIS AUTHORIZER ONE TIME EVERY 18 MONTHS.
AS YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM DR. BLAKE BRANSON, OUR EXPERT WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT, THESE ARE CONCENTRATED CHEMICALS.
THAT IS A LOT OF CHEMICALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE CURVE OF A ROAD WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
HERE'S WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THIS.
HERE'S OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, HERE'S ROSAMOND, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FOUR-LANE ROAD, RIGHT AT THE CURVE COMING RIGHT OFF A BUSY HIGHWAY 75.
THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT RIGHT THERE SO SOMEBODY CAN RUN RIGHT INTO IT.
IF YOU'LL TURN TO THE GREEN TAB.
THIS IS MORE MISINFORMATION THAT ATMOS HAS PROVIDED TO THIS COUNCIL.
ATMOS PROVIDED THREE DIFFERENT SLIDES TO YOU.
THOSE SLIDES ALL HAD THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO BUILD.
THIS IS THE GREEN TABS. IF YOU FLIP FORWARD ONE AND FLIP PAST THE GREEN TAB.
THOSE ARE THE THREE SLIDES I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THIS SAYS SIMILAR MEASURING STATION.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING, BUT SIMILAR MEASURING STATION LOCATED AT WILLOW WOULD SUBDIVISION AND MCKINNEY. WELL, GUESS WHAT? I WENT OUT THERE AND I TOOK PICTURES OF IT TODAY.
HERE'S ONE OF THE PICTURES OF IT.
THERE IS NO TANK WITH AN ODORIZER CONTAINER THERE.
THERE IS NO TANK OR AN ODORIZER INJECTOR AT THAT LOCATION.
SHOW ME WHERE THE TANK THAT HOLDS THE ODORIZER IS. IT'S NOT THERE.
THEY WEREN'T BEING TRUTHFUL TO YOU.
NOW, THERE IS ANOTHER ODORIZING STATION THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND HERE IN ANNA.
IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
I HAVE A VIDEO I CAN SHOW YOU.
DIDN'T HAVE TIME. I KNEW I WAS GOING TO HAVE A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME TODAY.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING ANYWHERE NEAR THIS THING AND THERE'S NOT A CURVE IN THE ROAD THAT RUNS RIGHT INTO IT EITHER.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS, TELL THEM NO, TELL THEM TO PUT THIS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS A MAP THAT SHOWS YOU THE LINE OF THE GAS TRANSMISSION OR THE GAS PIPELINE.
AT THE P&Z MEETING, WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY SPOKE, P&Z KEPT HAMMERING THEM, ASKING THEM QUESTIONS AFTER QUESTION.
CAN THIS BE PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE? YES, IT CAN.
IT CAN BE PUT ANYWHERE ON THE LINE.
THIS GAS TRANSMISSION LINE GOES ALL THE WAY TO SALINA.
THERE'S NOTHING BETWEEN HERE AND SALINA.
THIS VERY EASILY CAN BE PUT OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
WE'VE TALKED TO THE ANNA FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEY ARE NOT EQUIPPED IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF LEAK THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THING.
IF THERE IS A LEAK, THERE IS A TWO MILE RADIUS THAT HAS TO BE EVACUATED.
THAT INCLUDES BROOKSHIRE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY PAST HIGHWAY 5,
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THAT GOES ALL THE WAY OVER HERE, ALMOST A WESTERN, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NOT EQUIPPED AND NOT TRAINED TO HANDLE OR RESPOND.WE HAVE NO CITY WERE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT CAN RESPOND TO ANY ISSUES CONCERNING THIS.
WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR EITHER FRISCO OR PLANO HAZMAT.
LET ME PASS THE MIKE OVER TO OUR EXPERT, DR. BLAKE BRANSON.
>>GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BLAKE BRANSON.
TO GIVE YOU JUST A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS ABOUT MYSELF TO UNDERSTAND WHY I'M STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
I HAVE A DEGREE IN MECHANICAL ENGINEERING, A PHD IN MATERIAL SCIENCE, WHICH IS THE INTERSECTION OF ENGINEERING AND CHEMISTRY.
I SPENT THE LAST 15 YEARS WORKING IN THE HYDROCARBON INDUSTRY AND A VARIETY OF CAPACITIES.
TESTED THE JET FUEL FOR AIR FORCE ONE, RUN A LABORATORY THAT DOES THE QUALIFICATION FOR GREASES ON THE MARS ROVER.
I RAN THE QUALITY CONTROL PROGRAM FOR PROBABLY I WOULD BET IS THE LARGEST PIPELINE INJECTION FACILITY ON EARTH.
I UNDERSTAND THAT HYDROCARBON WORLD, THE OIL AND GAS INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN ALSO THE BASICALLY THE CHEMISTRY THAT GOES ALONG WITH CERTAINLY ADDED AS OF THAT, I WATCHED THE P&Z COMMISSION MEETING, I WATCHED THE COUNCIL MEETING EARLIER AND I THINK IF I WAS GOING TO SPEND JUST A FEW MINUTES TRYING TO DRIVE HOME A POINT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
THIS KEEPS BEING REFERRED TO AS A METERING STATION AND THE THING THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN A METERING STATIONS, THIS IS ALSO AN ODORANT INJECTION STATION.
JUST TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS VERY SIMPLY, A METERING STATION, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, IS A STRAIGHT PIECE OF PIPE WITH AN INSTRUMENT ON IT.
THE IDEA OF THIS IS YOU WANT TO VERY PRECISELY MEASURE THE FLOW OF GAS THROUGH YOUR SYSTEM, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VERY WELL-UNDERSTOOD, DEVELOPED FLOW THROUGH THE PIPE.
YOU MEASURE IT WITH SOME CALIBRATED INSTRUMENTATION AND YOU KNOW VERY PRECISELY HOW MUCH GAS YOU'RE FLOWING THROUGH.
IT'S A CLOSED SYSTEM, NOTHING GOES IN OR OUT.
A CHEMICAL INJECTION STATION IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BEAST.
YOU'VE GOT A CHEMICAL STORAGE SYSTEM, YOU'VE GOT SOME CONTROL SYSTEM FOR THE INJECTION PROCESS.
YOU'VE GOT TO CONTAINMENT STRUCTURE, AGAIN TO GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENCES, SO YOU SEE THE METERING STATIONS, THEY'D LOOK LIKE RUNS A PIPE.
THE THING THAT YOU WILL SEE ABOUT THE WAY YOU CAN TELL IT'S AN ODORANT INJECTION STATION OR CHEMICAL INJECTION STATION IS THERE'S SOME CHEMICAL STORAGE THERE AND SO I GRABBED A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF VARIOUS COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS FOR ODORANT INJECTION STATIONS.
THE THING YOU'LL NOTICE ABOUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ODORANT INJECTION STATIONS IS THAT CANISTER ISN'T A BOX.
WHAT THAT'S CALLED A SECONDARY CONTAINMENT.
THE FIRST REASON IS MOST OF THE CHEMICALS THAT YOU PUT IN AS AN ODORANT ARE BAD NEWS FOR AQUATIC LIFE, YOU VERY MUCH DO NOT WANT IT TO LEAK INTO THE SOIL.
THE OTHER REASON IS IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF IF BUT A QUESTION OF WHEN THERE WILL BE SOME UNINTENDED DISCHARGE.
YOU ESSENTIALLY CANNOT BUILD AN ODORANT INJECTION SYSTEM WITHOUT SECONDARY CONTAINMENT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE THE ANTICIPATION THAT AT SOME POINT SOME OF IT'S GOING TO SPILL.
THAT IS JUST THE NATURE OF HOW THESE THINGS ARE DESIGNED.
THE OTHER POINT THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO MAKE IS I KNOW IN THE PREVIOUS THE P&Z MEETING AND PREVIOUSLY THAT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED REPEATEDLY AND WAS NOT ANSWERED ABOUT WHAT CHEMICALS WILL BE ON SITE, WHAT WOULD BE STORED.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED, SO THE GENERAL CLASS OF CHEMICALS ARE CALLED MERCAPTANS.
THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF THEM AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE, SO LET'S JUST TAKE AS AN EXAMPLE, METHYL MERCAPTAN, LET'S SAY THEY PUT THIS IN HERE AS THE ODORANTS, SO METHYL MERCAPTAN, IT WOULDN'T BOIL AT 42 FAHRENHEIT.
ANYTHING THAT'S SPILLS WILL JUST TURN INTO A GAS.
IT'S HEAVIER THAN AIR, SO IT'S GOING TO HANG AROUND, IT'S GOING TO COLLECT, IT'S GOING TO BE BLOWN BY THE WIND.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S CALLED THE NFPA, HAZARD COMMUNICATION DIAMOND, THIS IS BASICALLY THE IDEA OF HOW DANGEROUS ARE VARIOUS CHEMICALS.
THE BLUE IS THE HEALTH HAZARD, THE RED IS THE FIRE, YELLOWS REACTIVITY.
IT DOESN'T GO ANY HIGHER THAN FOUR, METHYL MERCAPTAN HAS THE HIGHEST CLASS OF ESSENTIALLY HEALTH HAZARD YOU CAN HAVE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE METHYL MERCAPTAN.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED REPEATEDLY AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN ANSWER TO IT.
I THINK THESE ARE REASONABLE QUESTIONS THEY'RE ASKING AND I THINK THAT THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE P&Z MEETING WAS I WOULD SAY INADEQUATE TO FULLY COMMUNICATE WHAT EXACTLY IT IS THEY'RE LOOKING TO PERMIT.
>> HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE LEFT? I WANT TO COME BACK TO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
THIS WAS OUR EVACUATION PROJECTION.
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IF YOU'LL REMEMBER IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, WE LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT TWO OF THE MAIN INCIDENTS THAT CAUSE THESE THINGS TO BLOW UP OR LEAK OR CAUSE ISSUES ARE CARS RUNNING INTO THEM AND USER ERROR.WE HAVE ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS PUT TOGETHER AN ENTIRE PRESENTATION OF ATMOS IN THE NEWS HERE RECENTLY JUST HERE IN NORTH TEXAS.
THEY HAVE OVER ODORIZED, MEANING THEY PUT TOO MUCH CHEMICAL AND BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION.
THEY HAVE NEGLECTED TO COME OUT AND REVIEW OR LOOK AT A FACILITY THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS IN NORTH DALLAS AND A 12-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL BLEW UP AND DIED JUST IN 2019.
IT JUST HAPPENED. ATMOS IS BEING SUED LEFT AND RIGHT.
WELL, THIS IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, IS HAPPENING IN NORTH TEXAS.
RIGHT NOW, JUST IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.
WE CAN'T IGNORE THE FACT THAT THIS IS A POSSIBILITY.
WHEN ATMOS ORIGINALLY TOLD US THAT THIS COULD BE PUT ANYWHERE ON THE LINE, THAT SHOULD HAVE GIVEN A PRETTY BIG INDICATOR TO THE COUNCIL THAT THERE'S NO REASON WHATSOEVER TO PUT THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
HALF A MILE AWAY FROM A SCHOOL WE HAVE ACRES AND ACRES AND MILES AND MILES OF LAND IN WHICH THIS THING CAN BE PLACED.
I GUESS THE FINAL QUESTION I WANT TO POSE TO THE COUNCIL IS, LET ME BACK UP.
WHEN HOUSING ADDITIONS ARE BEING DEVELOPED, THE DEVELOPER IS THE ONE WHO IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, PUTTING IN THE UTILITIES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT CENTURION AMERICAN REALLY WANTS THIS PUT IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO SAVE THEM MONEY.
BUT WHY THIS COUNCIL WOULD PUT THE WISHES OF A MULTI-BILLION- DOLLAR COMPANY, BE IT ATMOS, AN ENERGY COMPANY, OR BE IT CENTURY AND AMERICAN AND INVESTMENT COMPANY AND BUILDER? WHY THEY WOULD PUT THAT OVER THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS AND THE CHILDREN THAT YOU GUYS TOOK AN OATH TO BE REPRESENTING IS BEYOND ME.
THEY CAN PUT THIS ANYWHERE ON THIS MAP, AND THIS MAP GOES ALL THE WAY PAST SALINA IN MILES OF EMPTY LAND.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW IS THIS THINGS WITHIN 300 FEET OF MY CHILDREN'S ROOMS WHERE THEY SLEEP.
I WILL BE IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO PASS THIS, I WILL BE DOING WHAT'S CALLED FENCE LINE MONITORING.
I AM PREPARED TO BE MONITORING THEM 24/7 AND AS YOU HEARD FROM MY EXPERT, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF IT'S GOING TO LEAK, IT WILL LEAK.
ONCE IT LEAKS, I'VE GOT EVERY PERSON THAT I HAVE TO CONTACT ON THE TICEQ, LOCAL REGIONAL OFFICE, AND THE RAILROAD COMMISSION READY ON SPEED DIAL.
I AM FULLY PREPARED TO GET THIS THING SHUT DOWN WHEN IT DOES GO OVER WHEN IT DOES LEAK.
MAKING CENTURY AMERICAN OR MAKING ATMOS UPSET ABOUT HAVING TO MOVE THIS THING IS NOTHING COMPARED TO HAVING TO EXPLAIN TO MAYBE THIS ENTIRE CITY WHY THEY DON'T HAVE GAS.
BECAUSE YOU'VE HEARD FROM MY EXPERT.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF IT LEAKS, IT WILL LEAK.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE. THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE SHOULD ENDANGER OUR CITIZENS AND HAVE THIS THING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL ON THE CURVE OF A VERY BUSY ROAD.
NO REASON WHATSOEVER. THANK YOU.
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WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 4 RECEIVED REPORTS,[4. Reports. ]
STAFF OR THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS THIS EVENING? I DON'T EITHER.
[5. Work Session. ]
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE WORK SESSION, DISCUSS THE STORMWATER UTILITY BUDGET. MR. PETERS.>> THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, GREG PETER'S INTERIM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, WANTED TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION TONIGHT REGARDING THE STORMWATER UTILITY AND WHAT STAFF WILL BE PROPOSING FOR THE FORMAL CREATION OF A BUDGET FOR THE UTILITY AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
TONIGHT, WE JUST LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL IF WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH OR IF YOU HAVE SOME OTHER IDEAS OR THINGS YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT BEFORE WE BRING TO YOU A FORMAL BUDGET.
I'M GOING TO GO OVER THE HISTORY AND THE REVENUES WE'RE SEEING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF AND POTENTIAL BUDGET ITEMS AND THEN LOOK FOR SOME FEEDBACK AND GO OVER NEXT STEPS.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE STORMWATER UTILITY WAS CREATED BY CITY ORDINANCE LAST YEAR AND THE INITIATION DATE WAS PROPOSED TO BE OCTOBER.
THE ACTUAL RATES WENT INTO EFFECT IN THE OCTOBER BILLS.
THE STORMWATER FEES ARE A FLAT RATE, SO RESIDENTIAL IS THREE DOLLARS 20 CENTS A MONTH AND THEN NON-RESIDENTIAL IS CHARGED JUST UNDER $11 PER ACRE PER MONTH.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A GOOD FEEL FOR THE REVENUES BEFORE WE STARTED TO IMPLEMENT ANYTHING REGARDING EXPENSES.
SO OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS WITH PAYMENTS STARTING TO COME IN TOWARDS THE END OF OCTOBER, EARLY NOVEMBER, WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THAT AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THERE'S AN AVERAGE MONTHLY REVENUE THAT'S ABOUT $27,000 A MONTH.
BASED ON THAT, STAFF IS NOW CONFIDENT IN PREPARING AND FORMALIZING A BUDGET FOR THE UTILITY SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED DOING SOME OF THE DRAINAGE WORK THAT WE KNOW NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AS FAR AS THE KEY BUDGET ITEMS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WOULD BE TO HAVE TWO FIELD MAINTENANCE STAFF MEMBERS, ONE TRUCK AND TRAILER AND SOME SMALL TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT, AND THEN PURCHASING A LOT OF MATERIALS, SO STORM PIPE, CULVERT PIPE, SAND, ROCK, DIRT, CONCRETE, SOME GEO TEXTILES AND FILTER FABRICS AND OTHER ITEMS NEEDED SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN THAT PROCESS OF CORRECTING SOME OF OUR EXISTING DRAINAGE PROBLEMS TO PROTECT AND REHAB EROSION PRONE AREAS, REMOVE CREEK BLOCKAGES, AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE CULVERT ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, PARTICULARLY IN OUR OLDER PORTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY.
MOVING FORWARD AND LOOKING INTO NEXT YEAR WHEN WE WOULD HAVE A FULL YEAR BUDGET, SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AND DISCUSSING AND BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION DURING OUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS WILL INCLUDE LOOKING AT STREET SWEEPING, POSSIBLY FUNDING SOME SMALL SURVEY AND ENGINEERING PROJECTS.
THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THE SOLUTION MAY NOT BE READILY APPARENT OR WE HAVE TO GO IN AND GET SOME SPECIFIC SURVEY DATA TO GET THE TYPOGRAPHY FIGURED OUT IF IT'S A VERY FLAT AREA TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE SOME DRAINAGE PROBLEMS, POTENTIALLY SETTING SOME FUNDING ASIDE FOR THAT.
PUTTING IN A BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR FUTURE CAPITALS, STORMWATER PROJECTS, SO THAT WOULD BE MORE LIKE A PAY-AS-YOU-GO SYSTEM THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING UP THAT MONEY OVER TIME FOR A MAJOR PROJECT OR MULTIPLE MAJOR PROJECTS.
POTENTIAL ADDITION OF A THIRD CREW MEMBER, POTENTIAL PURCHASE OF LARGE EQUIPMENT.
WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR IS TO WORK WITH THE EQUIPMENT WE ALREADY HAVE.
INSTEAD OF MAKING A BIG EQUIPMENT PURCHASE RIGHT NOW, OUR FOCUS IS ON WE WANT TO SPEND AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN ON GETTING OUT THERE AND DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR TO SHOW THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS AND WE'RE GETTING THINGS GOING.
INSTEAD OF SPENDING ALL OF OUR MONEY BUYING EQUIPMENT, WE WANT TO SPEND IT MOSTLY ON MATERIALS.
BUT THAT'S A CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND EXPAND TO BUY, WHETHER IT'S AN ADDITIONAL BACKHOE OR A MINI EXCAVATOR, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO WORK, AND THEN POTENTIAL LINE ITEMS FOR CONTRACTING OUT SMALL PROJECTS.
WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS IS THAT GIVEN THE CURRENT CLIMATE IN REGARDS TO CONSTRUCTION COSTS, STAFF REALLY FEELS LIKE WE GET A LOT MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK BY DOING THE WORK OURSELVES.
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BUT THAT CAN CHANGE AND IF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY SLOWS DOWN AT VERY WELL COULD MAKE SENSE NEXT YEAR TO LOOK AT CONTRACTING SOME WORKOUT.BUT AS I BID PRICES AND I SEE WHAT THEY'RE COMING IN AT, WE CAN DO THINGS CHEAPER THAN THOSE CURRENT RATES ARE.
GIVEN THE VERY MODEST BUDGET THAT WE HAVE FOR THE REST OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, CONTRACTING WORKOUT WOULD PROBABLY ONLY GET US ONE OR TWO PROJECTS WHERE WE CAN HAVE A COUPLE OF GUYS IN A TRUCK WITH A TRAILER AND SOME EQUIPMENT GOING ALL OVER TOWN MAKING A DIFFERENCE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK TO SEE IF WE'RE HEADING DOWN THE RIGHT PATH.
MOSTLY FOR THIS PERIOD FROM APRIL THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU DURING THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS FOR A FULL YEAR BUDGET THAT WOULD START ON OCTOBER 1 AND GO THROUGH THE STANDARD FISCAL YEAR.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL FEEDBACK FOR GREG?
>> YES, IT A LITTLE BIT, SO WE'RE COMING UP ON ABOUT A YEAR OF DOING THIS.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT SO FAR, AS FAR AS YOUR EXPECTATIONS ANALYSIS? THE FIRST YEAR IS GOING?
>> WELL. THE REVENUES ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHERE WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN SPENDING THE MONEY YET BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE SEVERAL MONTHS OF THOSE REVENUES COMING IN TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T COME TO YOU WITH A BUDGET AND THEN TURN AROUND AND HAVE TO COME BACK AND CHANGE IT AND SO WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
WE FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY IS GENERALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THE FIRST BILLS WENT OUT IN OCTOBER, I THINK FOLKS HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND WE TRIED TO DO OUR BEST TO CLARIFY EXACTLY HOW THIS MONEY WOULD BE SPENT, THAT IT WILL ONLY BE SPENT ON DRAINAGE PROJECTS AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
I THINK OVERALL, THE COMMUNITY IS IN SUPPORT OF THAT AND NOW IT'S REALLY JUST TIME FOR US TO SHOW THE NEIGHBORS WHAT THEY'RE GETTING FOR THAT INVESTMENT AND GET OUT THERE AND BE SEEN DOING THE WORK THEY EXPECT TO SEE HAPPEN THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IS GOING TO BE UNDERSTANDING THAT BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER HAD A STORMWATER UTILITY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IN THE PAST, OUR ANNUAL BUDGET FOR DRAINAGE WAS WITHIN THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND IT WAS ONLY $20,000 A YEAR, SO WE HAD A VERY SMALL BUDGET FOR DRAINAGE, SO JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WILL TAKE TIME FOR US TO GET TO A LOT OF AREAS.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF AREAS IN YEAR 1 WORTH FAR MORE THAN WE CAN ADDRESS IN A SINGLE YEAR.
I THINK IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE TRY TO HIT THE LOW-HANGING FRUIT, THE OBVIOUS PROBLEMS FIRST AND WORK OUR WAY THROUGH AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE COME BACK WITH A FULL BUDGET, WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO YOU ALL IS THAT I CAN COME BACK WITH A LIST OF SOME KEY PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD GET STARTED ON BASED ON THAT BUDGET.
>> SURE. GREG, JUST LIKE YOU READ MY NOTES.
I APPRECIATE YOUR FRUGALITY AND RESTRAINT.
YOU ACTUALLY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
OUR TAXPAYERS RATE PAYERS JUST BECOMES A POINT WHERE THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT IT'S BENEFITING THEM AND I HAD ONE QUESTION THAT CAME UP IS, DOES ANY OF THIS EFFECT SIDEWALKS OR IS THAT AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BUDGET? I'M TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS THAT HAVE BEEN ERODED FROM STORMWATER, THAT STUFF.
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, SO HONESTLY, IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE SPECIFIC SITUATION.
TYPICALLY, WE WOULD DO ALL OF OUR SIDEWALK REPAIRS WITHIN OUR STREET BUDGET.
BUT THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC AREAS.
IF IT'S ADJACENT TO A CREEK, IF IT'S IN A FLOOD PRONE AREA, THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE WASH OUTS AND EROSION PROBLEMS THAT STARTED A SIDEWALK AND GO WELL BEYOND THAT AND SO CERTAIN SIDEWALK COMPONENTS WOULD DEFINITELY BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT OUR STORMWATER CREW WOULD DO, SO IT'S ON A CASE-BY-CASE ASSESSMENT.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO HAS THAT QUESTION, IF THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC AREA, WE'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT FOR HIM AND LET HIM KNOW WHETHER THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO A DRAINAGE PROJECT OR A STREET PROJECT.
>> FOR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW, YOU CAN REPORT YOUR SIDEWALK ISSUES ONLINE.
YOU MENTIONED IDENTIFYING PROJECTS, MAY NOT HAVE TO SAY A SPECIFIC PROJECT YET AND WON'T HOLD YOU TO IT.
BUT WHAT IS A MAJOR ATTRIBUTE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE NEXT FIRST TWO OR THREE PROJECTS?
>> HONESTLY, IT'S IN OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE HAVE VERY OLD BAR DITCHES THAT OVERTIME HAVE STILTED IN AND WE HAVE OLD CULVERTS THAT ARE CRUSHED OR HAVE CAVED IN OR STILTED IN AND THE WATER IS JUST NOT MOVING.
WHEN IT RAINS, YOU HAVE JUST STANDING WATER THERE THAT STAYS FOR DAYS.
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DURING THE WINTER, YOU DON'T GET THE VECTOR CONCERN WITH LIKE MOSQUITOES, BUT STARTING HERE PRETTY SOON AS IT WARMS UP, THAT STAGNANT WATER THAT SITS THERE FOR DAYS BECOMES A MOSQUITO CONCERN AND SO THOSE ARE THOSE AREAS THAT I THINK THAT WE CAN ADDRESS FIRST THAT ARE LOW-HANGING FRUIT THAT WE DEDICATE OUR SOME MANPOWER TO.WE BUY THE MATERIALS AND WE GET TO WORK AND WE CAN GET A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS DONE QUICKLY TO SHOW A REAL BENEFIT.
>> I THINK YOUR MINDSETS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
AS FAR AS THE BUDGETARY AMOUNT, WHAT PERCENTAGE DO YOU EXPECT TO EXPAND IN THE NEXT YEAR? DO YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AS PARTIAL, THE WHOLE BUDGET, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?
>> BASED ON THE REVENUES, WE ANTICIPATE PULLING IN SOMEWHERE IN THAT 300, $325,000 A YEAR.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WE WOULD LIKE TO IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD SET ASIDE EACH YEAR OUT OF THAT BUDGET FOR A MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS SO THAT WE CAN GET INTO A POSITION WHERE WE CAN PAY AS WE GO FOR SOME MAJOR PROJECTS.
BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO HAMSTRING THE ABILITY TO GET THE DAILY WORK DONE.
WHERE I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE AT AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE IN THE NEXT MEETING, IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF PROBABLY 50 TO $75,000 A YEAR SET ASIDE FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE TOO BIG, THAT WOULD BE CONTRACTED OUT MORE LIKE A CAPITAL PROJECT, AND THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY ADD UP OVER TIME AND THEN THE REST OF THAT BUDGET WOULD BE SPENT REALLY ON ON GETTING SOME SPECIFIC PROJECTS DONE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
BECAUSE WHILE WE WANT TO SET MONEY ASIDE, WE DON'T WANT TO SIT SO MUCH ASIDE THAT THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T SEEING THE RESULTS OF THEIR INVESTMENTS.
>>SURE. GREAT. THANKS FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
ALSO, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR APPOINTMENT TO ASSCIATE MANAGER, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AND APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY.
ONE IS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT STREET SWEEPING.
THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'RE GOING TO REALLY NEED A HORN ONLY AND GET GOING ON THAT QUICK AS WE CAN AND GET THE EQUIPMENT BECAUSE I KNOW WE PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF STREETS THAT HAVE A LOT OF DIRT AND EROSION EVERY TIME ROCKS COME AND DOWN FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES AND STUFF.
ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO OUR FLOODING, WE'RE HERE IN SPRINGTIME NOW.
WHEN WE GET TO FLOODING, STORMWATER, THIS UTILITY IS FOR THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY NEED TO HIGHLIGHT AREAS THAT ARE FLOOD PRONE AND FORGOT, WHAT CAN WE TEMPORARILY DO AND THEN FIX IT PERMANENTLY.
BUT I KNOW THAT'S COMING UP PRETTY SOON HERE.
I KNOW WE GOT MAYBE STORM FALL ON THURSDAY AND WE HAD ONE LAST WEEK, BUT IT WAS QUICK MOVING, BUT WE GET FOUR, FIVE INTO THE RAINING REAL QUICK.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE ARE WE GOING TO NEED TO USE IS PRETTY QUICK AND YOUR EXPERTISE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE AND HOW FAST IT'LL GO DOWN.
BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO FIX IT? THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PRIORITY.
ESPECIALLY NOW SINCE WE HAVE THIS UTILITY, WE CAN USE SOME FUNDS TO HELP PUT IN DITCHES, CULVERTS, OR STORM DRAINS IF WE NEED TO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> YES SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> YEAH. I'M JUST CURIOUS. DO YOU HAVE A SET NUMBER OF ROOFTOPS THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO GO FROM TWO TO MAYBE FOUR PEOPLE TO SIX PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT, DO YOU THINK THAT THE NEW ROOFTOPS WILL BE ABLE TO PAY THAT RATE VERSUS MAKING THE RATE GO HIGHER?
>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
WHAT OUR PLAN IS AS OF RIGHT NOW, IS TO WATCH THIS BUDGET GROW OVER TIME WITH THE GROWTH IN POPULATION AND GROWTH IN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO REVIEW THE RATES ANNUALLY.
BUT WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU COUNCILMAN, IS I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR A RATE ADJUSTMENT IN THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, STAFF'S GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED THAT WE HOLD THIS RATE FLAT AND WE WATCH THE GROWTH.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT I THINK THAT ANY INCREASE IN RATE ADJUSTMENT WOULD NEED TO BE SPECIFICALLY JUSTIFIED.
I WOULD SAY IT WOULD NEED TO BE JUSTIFIED THROUGH SOME TYPE OF A CAPITAL PROJECTS SITUATION WHERE THE COUNCIL IS ABLE TO REVIEW SOME MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THEN THAT SPECIFIC AMOUNT, THAT INCREASE WOULD GO TOWARDS POTENTIALLY PROVIDING THE FUNDING FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
BECAUSE THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS FLAT RATE SYSTEM IS THAT WITH OUR COMMUNITY IN THE WAY WE DO HAVE GROWTH, WE CAN KEEP THESE RATES RELATIVELY FLAT.
THEN IF THE COUNCIL SEES A PROJECT THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, THAT'S A MAJOR CAPITAL DRAINAGE PROJECT, THEN THAT COULD BE ADDED ONTO IT.
BUT WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THIS RATE AS CONSERVATIVE AS WE CAN.
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>> GREG, CAN YOU CLARIFY OUT SOMETHING? WHEN YOU SAY COUNSEL FOR THIS PROJECT IS A STORMWATER RELATED CAPITAL PROJECT OR JUST ANY CITY PROJECT?
>> STORMWATER. FOR THIS, IT WOULD BE SPECIFIC, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A STORMWATER CAPITAL PROJECT.
FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE WAS AN AREA WHERE THERE WAS A MAJOR CREEK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WE WANTED TO DO THAT MAYBE WAS GOING TO COST A MILLION.
DOLLARS, THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU COULD SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE RATE BY 25 CENTS.
THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO POTENTIALLY DO A DEBT ISSUANCE OVER A 10 OR 15 YEAR PERIOD TO PAY FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT.
BUT WHAT I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR RIGHT NOW WOULD BE JUST INCREASING THE RATE TO PAY FOR OUR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE GOALS OF THIS FUND.
>> THANK YOU. YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
[6. Consent Items. ]
THESE ARE CONSENT ITEMS. CONSENT ITEMS CONSIST OF NON-CONTROVERSIAL OR HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REQUIRED BY LAW.ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT OF SAVING?
>> MAYOR, I LIKE TO PULL OUT ITEM F.
>> ITEM F. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE OTHER ITEMS?
>> MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6, A THROUGH E, AND THEN G THROUGH Q.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOLD HIM TO HAVE A SECOND.
>> COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE] ALL IN FAVOR.
>> YES. MOTION PASSES ITEM F APPROVED
[6.f. Approve the Quarterly Investment Report for the Period Ending December 31, 2022. (Finance Director Alan Guard) ]
THE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2022. MR. GORDON.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A QUARTERLY REPORT ON OUR INVESTMENTS.
THIS IS THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST OF 2022.
DURING THAT TIME, WE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAD INVESTED, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE SALE OF THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN AND THE BONDS THAT WE SOLD FOR OUR GO BOND PROGRAM THAT ADDED ABOUT $99 MILLION OF THAT, THEN WE ALSO RECEIVED GOOD CHUNK OF PROPERTY TAXES DURING THAT QUARTER.
YOU CAN SEE OUR OVERALL INVESTMENT INCREASED BY OVER $100 MILLION DURING THAT QUARTER.
THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT QUARTER IS INTEREST RATES ROSE, PRIMARILY IN OUR TEXAS POOL ACCOUNT AND OUR TEXAS CLASS ACCOUNT.
WE ALSO USED THE $65 MILLION AND CEOS FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OUR BANK OFFERED A MONEY MARKET FUND AT OVER 3%.
IN ORDER TO MANAGE THAT MONEY, WE PUT THAT 65 MILLION INTO THAT ACCOUNT SPECIFICALLY.
OUR INTERESTS FOR THE QUARTER INCREASED BY FOUR TIMES WHAT IT WAS THE PRIOR QUARTER FROM ABOUT 220,000 TO ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
MORE MONEY INVESTED AND BETTER INTEREST RATES.
ABOUT 60% OF THAT MILLIONS CAME FROM THE CEOS FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
WHICH WILL BE GREAT BECAUSE WE KNOW, AS GREG NOTED, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AREN'T GETTING CHEAPER.
THAT INTEREST WILL OFFSET COST IN THAT PROJECT AS THAT GETS BUILT OVER TIME.
YOU ADDRESSED IT WITH THE INTEREST RATE ISSUES.
GIVEN THE RECENT BANKING ISSUES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO, IS THERE ANY EXPOSURE IN OUR PORTFOLIO THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR?
>> WE DO NOT. IN FACT, EVERY ONE OF THE INSTITUTIONS THAT WE INVEST WITH WERE VERY PROACTIVE AND SEND US EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED MONDAY AND TUESDAY SAYING THAT ALL OF OUR FUNDS ARE FULLY COLLATERALIZED, 100% SAFE.
TEXT POOL DOESN'T HAD NO INVESTMENTS AND THE BANKS THAT FAILED OR NEITHER TO TEXAS CLASS, ABOUT 60% OF OUR MONEY IS IN INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL AND WE ARE 100% COLLATERALIZED THERE, SO WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE THAT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT PART OF OUR INVESTMENT POLICY REQUIRES THAT OUR MONEY BE COLLATERALIZED.
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WE RECEIVE A LETTER EVERY MONTH.EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE FUNDS WITH THAT ASSURE US THAT OUR FUNDS ARE COVERED ABOVE AND BEYOND FDIC REQUIREMENTS.
>> JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOOD NEWS.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOVE, WE APPROVE ITEM F.
>> MOTION BY THE MAYOR PROTEM.
>> COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE] ALL IN FAVOR
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
[7. Items For Individual Consideration. ]
ITEM 7A IS CONSIDERED.DISCUSS ACTION ON A DISCUSSION REGARDING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR GAS METERING STATION ON ONE LOG OF 0.006 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PETERS ROAD, PLYMOUTH PARKWAY, 995 PLUS OR MINUS FEET WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 368 PER SECTION 9.041 0.043 OF ARTICLE 9.04 ZONING ORDINANCE.
MR. ALPHA BELLY HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.
COUNCIL ON ITEMS 7A AS A REMINDER, THIS IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.
THE ACTION THAT CAN BE TAKEN ON THIS SPECIFIC ITEM ARE TWO THINGS.
NO ACTION MEANS IT CARRIES FORWARD AS IT DID THROUGH A PRIOR MEETING.
THE ADDITIONAL ACTION WOULD BE TO SEND THE ENTIRE ITEM BACK THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS.
IF WE MAKE ANY CHANGES, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COUNCIL AWARE OF THAT BEFORE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCING THE ITEM FOR ME.
WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ATMOSPHERE, BUT IF YOU ALL RECALL, WE PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING BASED UPON YOUR DECISION AND LAST MEANING PUT IT ON FOR DISCUSSION.
>> I BELIEVE THAT [INAUDIBLE] IS HERE TO PRESENT ON THIS ITEM.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEN AND MAYOR.
FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US BACK OUT HERE.
FOUND OUT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS AFTER P&Z, SO WE JUST WANTED TO COME OUT HERE AND BE AS INFORMATIVE AS WE CAN AND TONIGHT WITH ME, I BROUGHT SOME ADDITIONAL FOLKS THAT WEREN'T HERE AT THE P&Z MEETING FROM OUR OPERATIONS AND ENGINEERING TEAM.
WE HAVE ROBERT [INAUDIBLE] WITH ENGINEERING AND WE HAVE JORDAN BULLOCK WITH OUR OPERATIONS TEAM.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER RIGHT NOW TO JORDAN, HE'LL SHARE SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL ASPECTS OF THIS SITE. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AREA INCLUDING THE CITY OF ANNA.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.
THE PROJECT IN QUESTION HERE TONIGHT IS A GAS MEASURING STATION WITH INJECTION OF ODORANT AND WE'LL GET INTO THE NECESSARY REASONS BEHIND THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
ITS FUNCTION IS TO REDUCE THE PRESSURE OF THE GAS FROM THE TRANSMISSION ASSET THAT HAS EXISTING IN THE GROUND RIGHT NOW, MEASURED THAT GAS, INJECT ODORANT INTO THE GAS AND THEN SEND IT ON TO THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM TO BE UTILIZED BY OUR CUSTOMERS.
THIS IS CRITICAL ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NOT ONLY PROVIDES A SECONDARY GAS FEE FOR ANNA'S EXISTING 3,400 ATMOS CUSTOMERS BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE GAS FOR THE ENORMOUS GROWTH THAT ANNA'S SEEING TODAY AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE INTO THE FUTURE.
OUR VISION AT ATMOS ENERGY IS TO BE THE SAFEST PROVIDER OF NATURAL GAS AND WE STRIVE TOWARDS THAT GOAL EACH AND EVERY DAY AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE AND PRUDENT OPERATORS THAT VALUE OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS.
I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HAD UPFRONT.
WELL, CHEMICALS WILL BE STORED ON SITE.
THE ONLY CHEMICAL STORE ON SITE WILL BE MERCAPTAN.
THE PARTICULAR MERCAPTAN THAT WE USE IS MANUFACTURED BY CHEVRON PHILLIPS, AND IT IS LABELED SENTINEL 010, I HAVE THE MSDS FORM HERE.
IT IS MOSTLY ISOPROPYL MERCAPTAN, AND THE REASON WE DO THAT IS THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT REGULATES THE GAS INDUSTRY REQUIRES THAT WE ODOURIZE THE GAS SO THAT IS READILY DETECTABLE IN THE EVENT OF A LEAK, SO SOMEONE CAN EASILY IDENTIFY THAT BEFORE THE SITUATION GETS HAZARDOUS.
NEXT, A QUESTION ABOUT ODOR WAS BROUGHT UP.
NO ONE SHOULD SMELL GAS IN THE AREA.
IF THERE'S EVER AN ISSUE WITH SOMEONE DOES SMELL GAS, CONTACT ATMOS ENERGY WE'LL RESPOND IMMEDIATELY TO INVESTIGATE THE SITUATION AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SAFE.
THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL OR MAYOR HAS.
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>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I'LL START IT OFF.
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MERCAPTAN THAT THE MAJOR PETROLEUM COMPANIES USE AND THE MERCAPTAN THAT WILL BE USED AT THIS SITE?
>> NO THIS IS THE SAME MERCAPTAN THAT WE USE THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS THAT MAY MAKE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF MERCAPTAN.
BUT THIS IS A INDUSTRY STANDARD THAT YOU USE VARY WILDLY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
>> I'M TRYING TO ANSWER A QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US EARLIER.
IF WE DID PLACE IT IN SELINA, THAT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR SELINA, CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THE MEASURING STATION THAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT THE CITY NEEDS TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THAT CITY OR WE HAVE TO PIPE MILES AND MILES OF PIPELINE TO GET IT TO WHERE THE GAS IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TOO IS THAT NATURAL GAS IS NOT THE ONLY INDUSTRY THAT USES MERCAPTAN.
ANYONE WHO HAS A PROPANE TANK ON THEIR RESIDENTS, THERE'S MERCAPTAN MIXED INTO THAT PROPANE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS READILY NOTICEABLE OR SMELLED IN THE EVENT OF A LEAK, SO IT'S NOT JUST THE NATURAL GAS INDUSTRY THING.
>> WHERE IN ANNA ARE THE OTHER STORAGE SITES? I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN LABELED A METERING STATION, BUT I'VE ALSO LEARNED, OF COURSE, OVER TIME, THAT IT IS A CHEMICAL INJECTION SITE FOR MERCAPTAN.
WHAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS OR AREAS GEOGRAPHICALLY CLOSE TO US DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THOSE TYPES OF STATIONS IN ANNA?
>> AS FAR AS INJECTION SITES IN THE CITY OF ANNA, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IN THE CITY OF ANNA?
>> YES. DO YOU KNOW THE EXACT LOCATION OF THAT ONE, THE ADDRESS? THE SHADOW-BIN DEVELOPMENT? YEAH. IN ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THESE TWO STATIONS REQUIRE ODORIZES WHEREAS SOME OF OUR MEASURING STATIONS DO NOT, INT201, THIS PARTICULAR PIPELINE IS NOT ODOROUS GAS, IT IS A TRANSMISSION ASSET, DOES NOT REQUIRE TO BE ODOROUS.
THAT'S BECAUSE SOME OF THE DOWNSTREAM CUSTOMERS, SOME OF THE LARGE MANUFACTURING PLANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THE MERCAPTAN CAN HAVE NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON THEIR PROCESSES AND WHATEVER PRODUCTS THAT THEY'RE MAKING.
BECAUSE INT201 IS ODORIZED, EVERY MEASURING STATION COMING OFF OF THAT PARTICULAR PIPELINE HAS TO HAVE AN ODORANT INJECTION SITE.
>> SORRY GUYS, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK MY THIRD ONE HERE.
>> WE NEED THREE MAIN THINGS FOR MEASURING STATION.
WE NEED ACCESS TO THE HIGH-PRESSURE GAS, WHICH IS OVER OUR INT201 TRANSMISSION ASSET IN THIS AREA.
WE NEED TO ACCESS IN ANY WEATHER CONDITIONS SO THAT ATMOS EMPLOYEES AND AUTHORIZED CONTRACTORS CAN ACCESS THIS SITE IN ANY INCLEMENT WEATHER.
THEN ALSO WE HAVE TO ADD THE LAND RIGHTS IN THAT AREA.
WE HAVE ALL THREE OF THOSE THINGS IN THIS AREA.
IT'S EASY TO SAY YOU CAN PUT THIS ANYWHERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE LAND RIGHTS ANYWHERE.
WE CAN'T JUST GO PICK A POINT AND MAKE SOMEBODY SELL US THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
ALL THREE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED ALL ALIGN IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
I'LL START WITH THE EASY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I FAILED HIGH-SCHOOL CHEMISTRY, SO I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY WITH THE REST OF IT.
MERCAPTAN WOULD HAVE TO BE STORED UNDERGROUND, RIGHT? WOULD THAT BE MY UNDERSTANDING?
>> IT'S STORED ABOVE GROUND SIMILAR TO THE CONTAINERS THAT WERE PRESENTED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, THOSE WERE MERCAPTAN CONTAINER.
IT'S A SEALED VESSEL THAT HAS THE CONTAINER UNDERNEATH OF IT, THE CATCH PIN UNDERNEATH OF IT, SO IN THE EVENT THERE IS A LEAK, IT IS CAUGHT THERE, BUT IT IS ABOVE GROUND AND IT IS INJECTED INTO THE PIPE.
>> OKAY. SEE, I ALREADY FAILED.
ALREADY ANSWERED IN THE FIRST QUESTION.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED ABOUT SECONDARY CAPTURE, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND? BECAUSE IF IT GETS OUT OF THERE AND IT'S ABOVE-GROUND, IT'S GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE, IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE TO KEEPING IT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THAT AREA?
>> WELL, IT'S IN A CONTAINER, IF IT LEAKS OUT OF THAT CONTAINER, THE CATCH PIN WOULD BE THERE TO CATCH IT IN THAT EVENT, PEOPLE WOULD START SMELLING IT, AND WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY RESPOND.
THE OUTSIDE OF OUR STATION WILL HAVE AN EIGHT-FOOT MASONRY WALL AROUND IT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T SEE AN EVENT WHERE THERE WOULD BE A LEAK WOULD NOT BE CAUGHT BY THE CATCH PIN AND THEN WE WILL BE RESPONDING IMMEDIATELY TO THAT. ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT?
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>> IF IT DOES LEAK, YOU HAVE SENSORS THAT YOU ALL WOULD DETECT IT AUTOMATICALLY IN YOUR SYSTEM, CORRECT? THEN SOMEONE WILL RESPOND, IF IT DOES LEAK, WHAT CAUSES THE EXPLOSION? A SPARK?
>> AS ANYTHING THAT'S FLAMMABLE YET YOU NEED AN IGNITION SOURCE.
>> WE SAY IT'S RIGHT UP, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, RANDY.
>> CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE MERCAPTAN, REAL QUICK? CAN I SEE YOUR MSDS SHEET BULLOCK?
>> WE WERE SHOWN A METHYL MERCAPTAN, YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE.
>> IT'S THE ISOPROPYL MERCAPTAN IS THE MAIN COMPONENT OF THIS PARTICULAR.
>> THE HAZARDOUS ICON THAT WE HAD ON THEIR SHIELD LIKE A FOUR HAS METAPHOR FOR FLAMMABILITY.
WHAT ARE THESE? A TWO AND A THREE?
>> TWO AND A THREE, THAT WAS PROPANE IS A THREE AND FOUR, SO PROPANE IS MORE HAZARDOUS THAN [INAUDIBLE] MERCAPTAN.
>> THEN YOU'RE PUTTING IN, SO YOUR FOOTPRINTS REALLY LARGE ON YOUR PRESENTATION.
THE ONE WE HAVE AT TELEPHONE WROTE IN HOW WITH FIVE SHOWS 121 FOOT BY 102 FEET.
THIS ONE'S 167 BY 100 BY 107 BY 104, IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE CHEMICAL CONTAINERS YOU'RE NEEDING AND ALL THAT?
>> THIS SEEMS LIKE A REALLY LARGER FOOTPRINT.
>> THE CHEMICAL CONTAINER IS FAIRLY SMALL.
IT'S NOT MUCH LARGER THAN THIS DESK HERE.
>> THE REASON FOR THE LARGE SIDE IS WHEN WE NEED TO BRING TRUCKS IN TO REFILL IT BECAUSE IT WILL NEED TO BE REFILLED EVERY, DEPENDING ON THE USAGE, I THINK 18 MONTHS IS WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN THE BEGINNING.
BUT ALSO JUST TO GET TRUCKS INTO THAT SITE OUR NORMAL F2 50S THAT ARE GOING IN JUST TO DO MAINTENANCE WORK ON THE STATION TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO GET INTO THE STATION, TURN AROUND AND THEN EXIT OUT OF THE STATION SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BACK INTO THE ROAD.
>> IT'S AN EIGHT-FOOT MASONRY WALL BUT YOU CAN STILL GET TRUCKS IN THERE.
IS IT ONLY ON THE FRONT OF THAT, IT'S ONLY ON THE ROADSIDE PART OF THAT?
>> NO, SIR. [OVERLAPPING] I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE FEED TO MY SCREEN OR NOT, BUT [OVERLAPPING] IT SURROUNDS IT, AND THERE WILL BE A GATE ON THE LEFT SIDE, ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE WHERE IT'S A DRIVEWAY THAT WILL BE A METAL GATE.
>> ANY OTHER CHEMICALS BESIDES MERCAPTAN THAT ARE STORED IN THERE?
>> THANKS. QUESTIONS, COUNCIL.
>> TO ADDRESS THIS BEING CLOSE TO ROSAMOND, WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES YOU COULD PUT THE BALLERS IN THE GROUND IN FRONT OF IT, OFF THE ROADSIDE TO PREVENT A VEHICLE FROM GETTING THROUGH THAT CONCRETE WALL, THAT BRICK WALL? WE WILL DO THAT. THERE IS A CONCRETE WALL AND INSIDE THE CONCRETE WALL WILL PUT BALLERS MADE OF PROBABLY EIGHT INCH STEEL PIPE, SO PRETTY STOUT STUFF.
FOUR FEET DEEP, 24-INCH PEERS, CONCRETE, PRETTY STOUT STRUCTURE.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO DROP THEM INSIDE THE WALL OR IN FRONT OF THE- PROBABLY INSIDE THE WALL FOR AESTHETIC PURPOSES.
WE HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE AREA, SO WE'D PUT THEM RIGHT INSIDE THE WALL.
THAT WAS PART OF MY QUESTIONING.
WHAT'S SPEED AND WEIGHT OF VEHICLE WOULD BE ABLE TO PENETRATE THAT BARRIER? I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER PRECISELY, BUT IT'LL CERTAINLY STOP ANY PICKUP TRUCK, LARGE, NORMAL VEHICLE AT FAIRLY HIGH SPEEDS ALL AROUND UP THE CURVE.
I'M CONCERNED IN ONE, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING BACK AND MEETING WITH US.
OBVIOUSLY, THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON-SCREEN AT THE MOMENT IS CONSOLIDATED TO JUST YOUR PROJECT.
THE OTHER PRESENTATION SHOWS THE ENTIRE BUILD-OUT.
IT MAKES IT VERY CLEAR WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
WE'RE VOTING ON WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE.
I'M CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A BUSTLE OF KIDS WEIGHT, COMING THROUGH THERE ON A CURVE,
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POINTED RIGHT AT THIS VERY FLAMMABLE EXPLOSIVE AREA.GRANNY, WE DON'T HAVE SCHOOL BUSES GOING OFF THE ROAD ALL THE TIME.
BUT THIS THING JUST TO ME HAS A BULLS-EYE ON IT.
IN THE WORLD OF TEXTING AND NOTORIOUS FOR BAD DRIVERS, IN PROBABLY EVERY CITY WE HAVE A DAILY CONVEYANCE OF CHILDREN AND TRAFFIC COMING TO AND FROM AS THEIR CITY GROWS EVEN MORE SO ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD.
I FEEL WE HAVE, I'M A VERY HAPHAZARD JOB FOR PROVING WITH US, AND I'M COUNTING MYSELF ON THIS VOTE.
IF WE CAN HELP FIND A MORE AMENABLE LOCATION THAT'S SAFER, THERE'S A LOT OF PIPELINE WORK WITH.
YOU MENTIONED SOME OF YOUR CRITERIA, THE PRETTY AWESOME CITY STAFF, AND SOME REALLY GREAT DEVELOPERS AND THEY SAYS THAT MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ACCOMMODATE WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK AT ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WE WOULD DEEM MUCH SAFER FOR YOUR PRODUCT.
WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS SITE.
THERE HAVE ALREADY COSTS THAT HAVE BEEN INCURRED IN THIS SITE.
I THINK WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH STAFF AND COUNSEL AND DESIGN A BARRIER SUCH THAT IT WOULD SUSTAIN.
WE HAVE FACILITIES IN OUR SYSTEM THAT ARE CRITICAL ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR A FULL LOADED CEMENT TRUCK.
I THINK IN THIS SITUATION WE COULD DESIGN SOMETHING.
ONCE AGAIN, WE GET BACK TO THE AESTHETICS, BUT WE COULD DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WOULD PREVENT A BUS GOING THROUGH IT WITH KIDS.
THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULDN'T DESIGN AND ACCOUNT FOR.
IS JUST WORKING WITH P AND Z IN YOUR PLANNING.
YOU'D HAVE TO WORK WITH US A LITTLE BIT ON THE AESTHETICS OF IT.
LOCATION WISE WE'RE LIMITED BECAUSE THIS HAS TO BE ON THE PIPELINE.
THE TOWN ASKED US FOR NECROSIS MEANT AGREEMENT FOR ROWS MOM PARKWAY ACTUALLY, AND IT DIDN'T MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS.
BUT BECAUSE WE NEEDED A STATION HERE, WE NEEDED ACCESS, WE WORKED WITH THIS TOWN AND WE GRANTED ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT.
THERE WAS OUTSIDE OUR NORMAL STANDARDS, TRYING TO BE GOOD CORPORATE PARTNER IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WAS GOING TO HELP US ACCESS THIS SITE.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER TONIGHT, WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK, TALK TO THE LEADERSHIP TEAM AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.
I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH THE BEST I CAN, BUT I REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU.
THAT'S FINE. I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN US, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF BEING SWITCH.
I WON'T SAY THAT IT WAS YOU GUYS, SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT WAS NECESSARILY ATLAS, BUT WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THIS COUNCIL SHOWED SEVERAL SITES THAT LOOK AND HAVE FEATURES THAT ARE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE RECEIVED IN THE PRESENTATION THE OTHER DAY.
WHEN YOU SAY MUCH DIFFERENT, WOULD YOU MIND HELPING ME UNDERSTAND WHAT ASIDE FROM THE MERCAPTANS TANK, WHAT WAS DIFFERENT AND THEY BOTH HAD WALLS AROUND THEM? WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE JUST NOT TO ME, BLOCKS FROM HERE, THAT IT SHOWS A VERY SMALL SET OF PIPES COMING ABOVE WITH METERING ON IT, AND THE COMMUNICATIONS FORMER EMPLOYEE IS NOT CURRENT ONE.
THIS IS ALL OUR BUILDING. THIS IS ALL OUR ABILITY TO TRUST US, THIS IS ALL OUR ABILITY.
EVEN IN TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, IT'S A LOT MORE DETAILED, A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY WORKING WITH.
I WISH I HAD GAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAVE A PREFERRED WE HAD GAS IN ALL OVER NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT'S A VERY VALUABLE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO YOUR PRODUCT AND SERVICE [NOISE].
I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED WITH WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IT.
IF I CAN JUST PIGGYBACK ON THAT FIRST SECOND.
FIRST OF ALL, YES. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP.
THE BIGGEST REASON THAT WE'RE HERE, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROBLEMS FROM THE RESIDENTS NOT READING THE POSTED AGENDA. WE MISS THAT.
YOU GUYS GOT SHOT DOWN 60 THE NIGHT BEFORE, AND WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
WE HAD A LIAISON AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AND WE DIDN'T GET AN UPDATE AS FAR AS TO WHAT THAT WAS GOING ON.
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I HAD A HESITATION MYSELF ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BOARD.I THINK EVERYBODY HAS SOME RESPONSIBILITY HERE.
WHEN I WATCHED THAT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AFTER, I WOULD'VE SHOT IT DOWN TOO BECAUSE HONESTLY, THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS OUT THERE THAT YOU GUYS JUST DIDN'T KNOW THE ANSWERS FOR, AND NOW WE'RE BACK HERE.
YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I UNDERSTAND IT FROM THE BASIC IDEA, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD.
YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT HAPPY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK OUR WAY AROUND THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE BECAUSE I HONESTLY THINK EVERYBODY HAS DROPPED THE BALL.
I GET IT, BUT WE'RE IN A BAD SPOT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPED IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT PRESENTATION BEFOREHAND.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW [INAUDIBLE].
WHO OWNS THAT SPECIFIC SITE, CENTURION OR ATMOS? THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
>> THE LLC MM, ANNA 325 OWNS A SIDE.
BUT THE EASEMENT ACCESS RIGHTS HAVE BEEN CONVEYED TO ATMOS ENERGY.
>> YOU HAVE THE EASEMENT RIGHTS AT THAT LOCATION?
>> I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ATMOS.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT I HAVE.
THE BIGGEST ISSUE I HAVE WAS A METERING STATION.
THAT WAS WHAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN, AND THAT'S PIPELINE THAT METERS IT.
WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS A CHEMICAL INJECTION SITE WHICH GOT ADDED TO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE A TOP OF THE BIG MAIN THAT NEEDS THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING SITTING THERE THAT SHOULDN'T BE SITTING IN DEVELOPED AREA.
WE COULD PUT THIS DOWN NORTHEAST OR SOUTHWEST OF THIS LOCATION WHERE IT'S NOT A PART OF DEVELOPMENT.
THEN PEOPLE CAN LIVE AND BUILD A HOUSE NEAR IT BUT NOT ON TOP OF IT.
IT SEEM LIKE WE'RE LATE IN THE GAME HERE OF DEVELOPING THIS TYPE OF STATION.
WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS MAYBE TWO OR THREE, FIVE YEARS AGO FILLED OUT HERE WHEN IT WAS NOTHING.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARVER, THERE'S A LOT AREAS HERE IN ANNA.
I LIVE IN ONE OF THE OLDER PARTS OF HAVANA.
I THINK WE NEED TO FIND AN ALTERNATE LOCATION FOR THIS BECAUSE IT'S A METERING STATION AND A CHEMICAL INJECTION.
THAT'S THE KEY IN CHEMICAL PART IS WHAT'S GOTTEN ME, AND I'D LIKE US TO REVISIT THAT.
>> [INAUDIBLE], INJECTION TO MAKE THE GAS SAFE.
>> BUT IT'S NEEDED, BUT IT'S NOT AT A PERFECT LOCATION. THAT'S MY KEY.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINE THAT RUNS RIGHT THERE HAS NO MORE CURTAIN IN IT ALREADY LIKE THE OTHER LINES DO.
LIKE THE ONE THAT PROBABLY FEEDS THAT ONE OF 26 82.
>> BUT IF WE COULD GO SOME ACRES DOWN EAST, NORTH, OR WEST OF STAND ON PIPELINE THAT GO FARTHER AWAY FROM THE SUBDIVISIONS.
>> YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS WE'RE ALMOST 18 MONTHS OR I THINK A LITTLE OVER 18 MONTHS INTO THIS PROCESS TRYING TO GET THIS LOCATION WITH THE GROWTH THAT ANNA IS SEEING.
ANOTHER 18 MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE HAD TO START FROM SQUARE ONE WITH ANOTHER LOCATION, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF GROWING COMMUNITIES HERE.
THE GAS NEEDS, WE ONLY HAVE ONE SOURCE AND CURRENTLY WE NEED A SECOND SOURCE OF GAS IN THE CITY.
>> WE DO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE RUN ON ELECTRIC, WE DON'T HAVE GAS AT ALL.
REALLY THINK WE NEED ON THE COUNTY.
YOU MENTIONED FIVE YEARS AGO, THIS WILL BE GREAT.
THAT'S AN ASSET THAT WAS RECENTLY ACQUIRED BY ATMOS ENERGY.
THAT'S WHY WE SAW WHEN THE COMPANY WAS PUTTING IT UP FOR SALE, THAT IT WAS A CRITICAL ASSET THAT COULD SERVE THE NEEDS OF THIS GROWING AREA AND WE PURCHASED IT.
TIMING, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO OWN IT FIVE YEARS AGO.
>> THREE TO FIVE YEARS AGO IF THIS WAS OPEN COUNTRYSIDE. THANK YOU.
>> CLARK, CAN I ASK YOU A GENERAL QUESTION?
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LEGAL QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE [NOISE] EASEMENT SITES.ATMOSHONES THE EASEMENT, WE SEND THEM BACK TO REZONING PROCESS, BUT THEY OWN THE RIGHTS TO THAT LINE.
CONDEMNATION EMINENT DOMAIN IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, THEY OWN THE LINE.
MY QUESTION IS, WE DON'T GRANT THEM ACCESS TO SUP FOR THIS SIDE.
DOES AN OUTSIDE ENTITY WHO OWNS THE RIGHTS TO THAT PIPELINE HAVE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO CONDEMN OR TAKE THE LOCATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE? I KNOW I'M ASKING THAT PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE GENERAL AS I CAN.
>> SAY THAT AS A GASOLINE COMPANY HAS CONDEMNATION AUTHORITY.
IT'S A GENERALLY ANSWER. CITIES ARE CONDEMNING AUTHORITY.
>> I HAVE MORE TO SAY ON THAT, BUT I WOULD PREFER TO SAY IN CLOSED SESSION.
>> THE ANSWER IS A LOCAL AUTHORITY, A GAS COMPANY IN A GENERAL TERM WOULD HAVE CONDEMNATION POWERS, MEANING THEY CAN TAKE THE PROPERTY IF THEY WANT.
>> I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
YOU SAID YOU STARTED CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE, BUT IT'S ONLY PRE DIRT WORK AND EXPOSURE OF THE MAIN, IT'S NOT ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.
>> WE STARTED WORK ON THE EXISTING PIPELINE IN OUR EASEMENT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE GRADING PERMIT TO START THE FLAG WORK ON THE ACTUAL RESIDENCE.
BUT WE HAVEN'T PUT THE HOT TAP ON THE PIPELINE THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO TAP IT AND BRING THE GAS INTO THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. YOU'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING YOUR OTHER PERMITS AND SUCH IN PLACE.
>> YES, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON OTHER PERMITS FROM THE CITY OF ANNA FOR THE GRADING PERMIT.
>> I DID WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING.
WE WERE ACCUSED OF PUTTING A BOMB NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PUT THIS THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING.
[OVERLAPPING] THE ITEM IS DONE.
>> NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY [OVERLAPPING].
>> THANK YOU, MR. HAMIL STEVEN.
>> ITEM 7B, CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING ON LIVING OF ASSESSMENTS AND IMPROVEMENT AREA 1 OF THE WOODS AT LINDSAY PLACE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE, OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF ANNEX, ACCEPTING AND IMPROVING THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN FOR ASSESSMENT ROLE OF WOODS AT LINDSAY PLACE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
BANKING OF FINDING A SPECIAL BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTY AND THE DISTRICT LIVING ESPECIALLY ASSESSMENTS AGAINST PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND ESTABLISHING A LIEN ON SUCH PROPERTY, PROVIDING FOR A METHOD OF ASSESSMENT AND THE PAYMENT OF ASSESSMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 372, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AS AMENDMENT PROVIDING PENALTIES AND INTEREST ON THE LINK
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FOR THE ASSESSMENTS PROVIDING FORCE OF BUILDING AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. GREGSON.>> MAYOR, IF YOU'D OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
>> WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 07:13 PM.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JOE GREGSON, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
LAST MONTH THAT YOU CREATED THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR THE WOODS AND LINDSAY PLACE AND SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MARCH 14TH A NIGHT FOR THE START THE PROCESS OF LIVING ASSESSMENTS FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA 1 IN THE WOODS AT LINDSEY PLACE, AND ALSO APPROVING A SAP, A SERVICE AND AN ASSESSMENT OF PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
ACTUALLY ITEM 70 IS ALSO DEALING WITH THIS SO THIS IS JUST THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE WOODS AT LINDSAY PLACE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 07:14, AND MOTION ON ITEM B.
>> MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CAROL. ALL IN FAVOR?
ITEM 7C, CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE WOODS AT LINDSAY PLACE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT, AREA ONE FUNDING A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT AND RESOLVE IN OTHER MATTERS IN THERE TOO.
>> YES, MAYOR. THIS IS JUST THE FUNDING A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.
>> I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM C.
>> MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL IN FAVOR.
>> YES. MOTION PASSES ON ITEM 7D.
CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE DOCUMENTS FOR THE PURCHASE OF A RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR LEONARD AVENUE AND ACROSS AT 2.89.
THEY COULD TRACK GLAND LOCATED NORTH OF EAST FOSTER CROSSING AND IMPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 23 ROADWAY IMPACT THE FUNDS BUDGET.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO BUY A STRIP OF RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT HAPPENS TO BE LOCATED IN-BETWEEN THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN OUR ETJ RIGHT THERE OFF OF FOSTER CROSSING.
THE ACQUISITION OF THIS TRIPLE LAND IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO THEN WORK WITH THAT ETJ DEVELOPER TO HAVE THEM BUILD THEIR SHARE OF LEONARD AVENUE DOWN THROUGH THERE, AND SO AS SOON AS WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE IT WILL ALLOW US TO GET AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM DONE AND BROUGHT BACK TO YOU HOPEFULLY VERY QUICKLY SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON IMPROVING THAT CORRIDOR TO THE SOUTH.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL DECIDED WE FIRST NEED A MOTION TO AMEND THE BUDGET WITH ITS OWN VOTE AND THEN A SECOND TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.
>> MAYOR, I'LL MAKE THEM TO MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 7D.
I WOULD ALWAYS SAY TO APPROVE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE PHYSICAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY AND A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE FOR SALE AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY ON COUNTY 22 REQUIRED FOR THE EXPANSION OF LEONARD AVENUE.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE BOTH OF THEM ALL IN ONE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE] SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> YES. MOTION PASSES OUT OF ME.
CONSIDER DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE BID FOR THE MUNICIPAL [NOISE] CONFERENCE PARKING EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENT ORDINANCE AND THEN IN 23 NON-BONDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
>> I BELIEVE THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE BUDGET.
WE'D ALSO NEED TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS WELL, SO TWO ITEMS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] HE SAID HE HAD THE ORDINANCE AND THE RESOLUTION.
>> NO. THERE NEEDS TO BE A SECOND VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION.
>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AFTER A MINI BUDGET TO PURCHASE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM LEONARD AVENUE.
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>> MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN KANE. ALL IN FAVOR?
ITEM E IS CONSIDERED DISCUSS ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AWARDING BID FOR THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX PARKING EXPANSION AND IMPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING FISCAL YEAR 23 NON BOND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND.
MR. PETERS, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.
ONCE AGAIN, WE WILL NEED THE SAME TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS AND VOTES SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS FOR THE PARKING EXPANSION.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP HERE IT INCLUDES DOUBLING THE POLICE PARKING THERE AND THEN ADDING GENERAL PARKING TO THE SOUTH, JUST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SEVENTH STREET.
YOU MAY RECALL WE DID RE-BID THIS PROJECT AFTER HAVING SOME THINGS COME UP DURING THE BID PROCESS, AND ACTUALLY BY RE-BIDING IT, WE ACTUALLY CAME IN LOWER WITH THIS RE-BID.
WE'RE ACTUALLY SAVING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.
HOWEVER, IT IS STILL ABOVE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF $400,000 AND SO WE WILL REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE BUDGET TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND THEN A SEPARATE RESOLUTION AWARDING THE BID.
BUT THE CONTRACTOR, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IS READY TO GO AS EARLY AS BEGINNING OF NEXT MONTH AND SO WE HOPE TO WORK WITH HIM TO HAVE THIS WORK DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE KNOW THAT PARKING IS AT A PREMIUM HERE AT THIS LOCATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> BUT BEFORE WE GO INTO THOSE QUESTIONS, OUR EXECUTIVE STAFF, WHY DID WE NOT HAVE TWO SUBSECTIONS SHOWING TWO DIFFERENT BOATS REQUIRED?
>> IN CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD.
THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE BOTH ITEMS, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THE ACTION ITEM AS PART OF THE POLICY DISCUSSION RIGHT SO YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT UNDER CONSENT WITHOUT HAVING CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS IS THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO TO.
BUT MOVING FORWARD WE WILL HAVE SIMILAR TO HOW THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOES THE ITEMS. WE WILL HAVE TWO SUBSECTIONS UNDERNEATH, AND THAT IS IN CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE ITEMS.
>> THANK YOU FOR ALREADY BEING ON TOP OF IT.
I JUST FELT LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE TRANSPARENT PLUS A PREPARES HIS COUNSEL FOR WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH.
>> GREG, HOW MANY MORE PARKING SPOTS IS THIS GOING TO ADD FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, NOT STAFFED WITH OUR NEIGHBORS?
>> THE TOTAL ALL-IN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 94 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.
>> OF THAT I WOULD SAY IT'S 70 PLUS OUR GENERAL PARKING.
THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE DEDICATED STAFF WOULD BE THE POLICE PARKING BECAUSE THAT IS SPECIFIC FOR POLICE AND SO WE WERE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ONLY FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS.
>> FOR THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES AND PATROL CARS?
>> GREG, FOR THE POLICE PARKING, WILL IT BE SECURE, GATED, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE?
>> WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH THAT.
WE HAVE A PLAN THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON AS WE CLOSE OUT THIS PROJECT, THIS FACILITY THAT WE'RE STANDING IN RIGHT HERE TODAY.
WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH THE PLAN TO TAKE CARE OF THAT WITH SOME FUNDING FROM THIS OVERALL PROJECT THAT WE HAVE.
>> WHY ANYONE WOULD BE INSANE ENOUGH TO ASSAULT AN OFFICER IS BEYOND ME, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THE SAFETY IN THERE AND I'M GUESSING THERE'S A LOT MORE OPEN THAN THE BACK ALLEY WE HAD THEM PARKING IN BEFORE, SO THANK YOU.
>> I WILL ADD CHIEF HAMILL WAS IN CHARGE OF THE GATES IN HIS PREVIOUS PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT, AND SO HIM AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE TYPE OF GATES THAT WORK WELL FOR POLICE OFFICERS AND THE TYPE OF GATES THAT DO NOT, AND SO HE AND HIS FOLKS WILL BE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH US AS WE MAKE SURE WE GET THE RIGHT GATES INSTALLED TO WORK FOR THEM.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE THIS, THUS IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> APPROVE WHAT? THERE'S TWO THINGS ON HERE.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIAL FOR THAT ONE.
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>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARVER? I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN KATE, ALL IN FAVOR?
>> MOTION BY THE MAYOR AND THE SECOND BY THE MAYOR PRO TEAM, ALL IN FAVOR?
>> GOT AN AFFIDAVIT ON THAT ONE?
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THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THAT OUR CITY MANAGER OR OTHER STAFF UNDER HIS DIRECTION, WOULD COORDINATE WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND THE HOA AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CRAFT THAT FORMAL AGREEMENT THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS TO OCCUR.BASICALLY, YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE HOA THAT WAVES ROUGHLY $22,000 OF WATER AND SEWER IMPACT FEES, THEN THAT AGREEMENT WOULD BE FILED WITH THE CITY SECRETARY OF RECORD.
BUT AGAIN, THE PRIMARY REASON THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVALS IS BECAUSE THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION AND WE DON'T FEEL IT SETS A PRECEDENT FOR A HIGH VOLUME OF FUTURE REQUESTS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> THE VERY LAST THING GREG SAID IS ACTUALLY MY CONCERN IS IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, WHAT PRECEDENTS WE ARE CREATING? GREG, JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION OF THE FEES.
IT'S ONLY THE $22,267 THAT'S BEING REQUESTED TO [OVERLAPPING] BE MADE?
>> CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT, YES SIR.
>> NOT THE THE BUILDING APPLICATIONS WHO WOULD TAP FEES, WATER METER DEPOSIT, WATER METER FEES, THOSE ARE STILL BEING PAID?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THE ROUGHLY ABOUT $4,600 IN FEES THAT IS SHOWN BELOW THERE, THOSE WILL ALL BE PAID BY THE HOA.
IT'S ONLY THE TOP THREE LINES, THAT TOP YELLOW BAR THERE, THE 22,267.
I BELIEVE WHEN THE HOA WAS LOOKING AT THIS, THEY LIKELY WERE SURPRISED, I BELIEVE WHEN THEY SAW THE IMPACT FEES COME BECAUSE I THINK THEY ASSUMED THAT THE DEVELOPER HAD ALREADY PAID THEM FOR THIS BECAUSE TYPICALLY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
THE DEVELOPER ALSO BUILDS THE AMENITIES SO THEY PAY THE IMPACT FEES.
THEY WERE ALREADY PLANNING ON PAYING ALL THOSE OTHER FEES THAT ARE NORMAL WITH CONSTRUCTION.
BUT IT'S THE IMPACT FEES THAT CAUGHT THEM BY SURPRISE.
>> SURE. I WISH HE WAS STILL IN HERE, BUT AS A COUNCILMAN SERVING ON THAT BOARD, I KNOW HE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE CITY DOES BUSINESS.
IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY THINKING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I'VE GOT.
>> THE ONLY COMMENT I'LL MAKE IS I HAVE HISTORY HERE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AS I LIVED IN IT.
MY FIRST HOME IN ANNA WAS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THE MISCONCEPTION AS IT GOES FOR THIS SWIMMING POOL WAS THIS SWIMMING POOL WAS PROMISED TO THE HOMEOWNERS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE BACK IN THE TIMES WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE TRANSPARENCY.
WE DIDN'T HOLD DEVELOPERS ACCOUNTABLE TO THINGS SUCH AS DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS, LISTED THESE TYPES OF ITEMS. MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS OVER TIME, THE HOA ITSELF MADE UP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
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HAS CONVINCED THE DEVELOPER TO HELP FUND AND DEPOSIT FUNDS TO ASSIST THEM.HOWEVER, THEY ARE ON THEIR OWN TO GO CONSTRUCT THE POOL THAT THEY WERE PROMISED FROM DAY 1 VERBALLY.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I ADDED THAT BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER SOME OF THAT AS A RESIDENT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
>> IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO HAVE THEM PAY THOSE IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THAT'S COMPLETELY AGAINST WHAT THE IMPACT FEES WERE FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THAT SUBDIVISION IS ALREADY BUILT OUT.
>> [LAUGHTER] WELL, WE APPROVE.
>> MOTION, MADAM MAYOR PRO TEM.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE].
[9. Closed Session (Exceptions). ]
COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO CLOSED SESSION UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.CITY COUNCIL MAY ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ANY ITEMS LISTED OR REFERENCED ON THIS AGENDA AND THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS.
A, CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING OPINION OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION.
TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.071.
B, DISCUSS OR LIBERATE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OF VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.072.
C, DISCUSS OR LIBERATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.087.
AND D, DISCUSS OR LIBERATE PERSONNEL MATTERS, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551.074.
>> MOVE WE ENTER INTO CLOSED. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PATOKA.
[BACKGROUND] WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK IN OPEN SESSION AT 8:44 PM.
ITEM A IS FUTURE AGENDA CONSIDERATION.
[8. Future Agenda Consideration ]
A, CONSIDER DISCUSS SECTION ON WORK SESSION ITEM FOR FUTURE AGENDA.IT LOOKS LIKE A GOLF CART ORDINANCE THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY COUNCILMAN KEVIN TOTEN.
>> MAYOR, I BROUGHT THIS TOWARDS THE CITY MANAGER, SORRY, RYAN.
YES, I HAVE HAD COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD REACH OUT TO ME, BUT I ALSO SEE A NEED FOR DISCUSSION ON THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE GOLF CART, SO MAYBE WE CAN GET IT UNDER CONTROL AND GETTING THE HORSE IN FRONT OF THE CARD BECAUSE I SEE MORE GOLF CARTS IN OUR FUTURE WITH THE MEGA TILL PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS ON OUR FUTURE WORK SESSION FOR MORE DISCUSSION. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S REALLY MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
I DO THINK THAT GOLF CARTS ARE INCREASING IN ALL HONESTY, I THOUGHT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD DISCUSSED THIS AT ONE POINT IN TIME A COUPLE YEARS BACK, AND HONESTLY I THOUGHT WE HAD A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
>> I THINK IT WAS SHUT DOWN BY STAFF BEFORE IT GOT TO THE AGENDA.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD THAT TO A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.
>> MOTION BY THE MAYOR. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE].
ANY OTHER ITEMS WE NEED TO CONSIDER? I'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 8:46.
[NOISE]
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.